2:46 pm August 11, 2012, by David O'Brien
August 11th, 20122:50 pm
August 11th, 20122:51 pm
OK now guess I should actually read the Blog….
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
August 11th, 20122:53 pm
Our Bravos are 14-1 when Kris Medlen starts.
August 11th, 20122:58 pm
Johan Santana is 0-3 with an ERA of 13.50 in the month of August while giving up 13 earned runs in 12.2 innings.
Moves were great, but they do not foretell any future success. There are tons of questions about this team and it doesn’t look like the Nats are gonna cool off any time soon. Now the Braves face the prospect of playing the Pirates or the Dodgers in a one-game playoff if they do make the playoffs. Considering they may enter the postseason with he second-best record in the NL (and maybe all of baseball), that’s nothing to be excited about.
Yes Way José
August 11th, 20123:03 pm
Thanks for being a wet blanket, waffleboy. Geesh.
August 11th, 20123:05 pm
I’ll admit that while I was deeply disappointed and angry at Frank Wren earlier in the season, the man has seemingly redeemed himself.
Along with Ben Sheets, Paul Maholm and Reed Johnson. The previous additions of Chad Durbin, Paul Janish and Juan Francisco have proven to be invaluable. Wren has done an incredible job of cobbling together and adding to this squad of players on the cheap.
Well done and marvelously achieved!
August 11th, 20123:07 pm
DOB, not your best work, but still a pretty solid, mid rotation type blog.
August 11th, 20123:10 pm
superb blog by DOB. Who would have thought that this would be our rotation at the start of the year? 2 new people, Hudson, Minor, and Medlen.
August 11th, 20123:11 pm
Our Bravos have very little control or say in the success of the Washington Nationals. Other than to congratulate our rivals while trying to keep the division race close. So there is no shame in finishing second, should the Nats end up with the best record in baseball.
waffleboy is correct. I’ve been saying the same thing because the Nats aren’t gonna falter. One reason why are that there are very few teams capable on beating the Nats or the Braves right now. Think about it. There are the Reds, Cardinals, Dodgers, Giants, Braves and Nats (maybe the DBacks???). The rest are just finishing out the year and those teams have to be swept to call it a good series. Can’t count on them beating the Nats or anyone else.
Of course looking at the whole picture objectively and realistically makes some think you are negative or throwing wet blankets.
August 11th, 20123:14 pm
brian, this rotation now actually doesn’t surprise me. Baseball, anything can happen. Our rotation was of question marks to begin the season for me anyways. Only surprise, if you want to call it that, is Beachy’s season ending injury. Other than that we all knew, or should know, that Wren is pretty sneaky and slick with trades and sometimes off the scrap signings. No surprise Sheets and now Maholm are here doing well.
“…which includes a 23-8 record and 2.90 ERA in their past 31 games, and 13-3 record and 1.76 ERA in their past 16.” I knew we were on a roll, but seeing those kind of numbers really puts it in perspective. Everyone complaining about the Nats needs to chill. Braves can’t really play better than what they have been. Let’s enjoy the ride and the cards fall where they may. Can’t control how Washington and whoever they’re facing are playing, only us. Keep the pressure on the Mets, come home and have a great home stand. Go Braves. Thanks, DOB!
August 11th, 20123:19 pm
So why was everyone down on Wren in the first place? Have you looked at his track record while always dealing with budget restraints? Oh hold on…I think I know the answer…the people on this blog seem to forget that there are 30+ other teams out there all trying to win and very few of them do as well as the Braves year in and year out. In short most of you know little to nothing about baseball and even less about business.
August 11th, 20123:20 pm
See this used to not happen where we’d be coasting along beating up teams, especially in our division, but have another team a step or two ahead of us the whole way. Nats teams didn’t exist for us through the run. Closing, I think, would’ve been the ‘91 Dodgers and ‘93 Phillies. Correct me if I’m wrong.
August 11th, 20123:22 pm
1. Michael Bourn (L) CF
2. Reed Johnson (R) LF
3. Jason Heyward (L) RF
4. Chipper Jones (S) 3B
5. Freddie Freeman (L) 1B
6. Brian McCann (L) C
7. Dan Uggla (R) 2B
8. Paul Janish (R) SS
9. Kris Medlen (S) P
“@Braves: Tonight’s lineup at NYM (7:10, PTV/680AM/BRN): Bourn 8 Johnson 7 Heyward 9 Jones 5 Freeman 3 McCann 2 Uggla 4 Janish 6 Medlen 1″
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Tonight’s lineup at NYM (7:10, PTV/680AM/BRN): Bourn 8 Johnson 7 Heyward 9 Jones 5 Freeman 3 McCann 2 Uggla 4 Janish 6 Medlen 1
August 11th, 20123:24 pm
Hey what’s tonight’s lineup?
I have not seen Uggla behind much. Not sure what he is talking about there. If anything was off with this timing he has been ahead pulling most of his best contact foul down left field line before those pop-ups and strikeouts. But he going good now so we will just roll with it.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 11th, 20123:25 pm
Ooohh…BMac’s in the lineup. Now once the clock hits about 7:15 at the party tonight, I’m gonna be more on-edge than I might already be…
August 11th, 20123:27 pm
Have a feeling if Bourn is too expensive that we’ll go hard after Victorino. Don’t think he’ll demand as many $.
August 11th, 20123:28 pm
Don’t know how often you blog but all the praise of last night will turn to throwing complaint bombs if we get about 4 hits and the other team gets 10 and we lose.
Wren appears to be what any GM has to be and thats pretty level headed and sometimes lucky. Mahalom deal was a steal and miracle deal compared to what the Dempster deal was gonna be(Got lucky on that one)
Again, take away a deal or two he has made his successes has certainly outweighed the flops.
you having a party McFann??
like that Braves lineup. Insert simmons for Janish and that is a top notch lineup
you can pat wren on the back all you want, but it’s the scouts who recommended all those players
who should receive some recognition
August 11th, 20123:31 pm
“Moves were great, but they do not foretell any future success”
Please tell me what does in anything! When you find that crystal ball share with the rest of the “future”. Personally, I’d give a rats arse about baseball. I want to know the Powerball numbers for the next drawing!… But that’s just me!
Nats are due to stumble. Even good teams, which they are, hit bad streaks. They haven’t yet, as I recall.
Wren has done a excellent job this year,but unless they start brain transplants,Fredi is still Fredi.
August 11th, 20123:32 pm
I’m not—it’s at my aunt and uncle’s house (not that they’re my only aunt and uncle…but I digress…). Sort of a “back-to-school” type thing…
Not going over till about five…they may put the game on at the party, ya never know…
August 11th, 20123:33 pm
Mark Bowman @mlbbowman
Braves lineup: Bourn 8 Johnson 7 Heyward 9 Chipper 5 Freeman 3 McCann 2 Uggla 4 Janish 6 Medlen 1
Mahom threw a nice game last night. But, the playoffs are rarely won by pitchers who can barely hit 87 MPH. Mahom and Sheets will be no problem for the likes of the AL big boy bats and will struggle to get the Braves out of the first round, IF they get by the one game playoff thing this year. Few soft tossers do well in the post season. Glavine had a few good games and some bad ones also.
Scouts are where it starts for sure. They get in there, hash it out, give opinions but then the man that signs the deals has to make a decision and for the most part he has done that well.
August 11th, 20123:34 pm
what is th line up tonight?
August 11th, 20123:35 pm
DOB cursed us well today. Great work but bound to make us lose….sigh
August 11th, 20123:36 pm
Around MLB, players shake heads at Strasburg shutdown.
August 11th, 20123:37 pm
Braves lineup: Bourn CF, Johnson LF, Heyward RF, Chipper 3B, Freeman 1B, McCann C, Uggla 2B, Janish SS, Medlen P
The Reds Billy Hamilton could be trade material. Especially when looking at their present roster depth. Now don’t misunderstand where I’m coming from because teams are not in the habit of trading top position prospects.It’s just that Hamilton is blocked and the Reds seemingly don’t put much stock in fleet feet as much as they should.
Again, Nats wont stumble unless you put a hex on those starting pitchers they have and 1 or 2 of them come up lame.
I agree with you. Power pitchers are where its at in the playoffs.
wonder how old you are since u have a love affair with mcann
August 11th, 20123:38 pm
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i is what it is
August 11th, 20123:39 pm
Glavine’s 8 inning masterpiece in game 6 in 95 was awful….pathetic.
Are you nuts, Denny?
August 11th, 20123:40 pm
since santanna has this era watch him own us tonite
August 11th, 20123:43 pm
Itsi – give it a rest with mcfann
August 11th, 20123:44 pm
I second phil
August 11th, 20123:46 pm
August 11th, 20123:47 pm
phil give it a rest with mcfann
What—has he said other stuff? I guess it takes all kinds…
August 11th, 20123:48 pm
scouts do ge a lot of credit but the buck still stops with Wren.
August 11th, 20123:50 pm
there is no medical justification to shut down Stephen Stras. at 180 innings. None whatsoever. They should let him pitch.
As an aside I want to go against the Nats and pass them with their best players there
August 11th, 20123:52 pm
Heading to the game tonight. Looking forward to seeing Chipper and the boys. Hey DOB, if you are here tonight make sure you get a Shake Shack burger. Danny Meyer food is always the best!
I realize Dan would be pretty upset if Fredi held him out again. But Santana has owned him and Uggs is just now working his way out of a long funk. Lets not put him in a position where he starts another long slide.
Fredi should have held Uggla out, Dan would get over it.
August 11th, 20123:54 pm
Nothing i know of. Just hoping he’ll shut it now while still ahead.
Two more notes on Mr. Maholm’s shutout from last night: He is the first Brave pitcher since 1998 to throw a complete game shutout in NY (John Smoltz). He is also the first Brave lefty to throw a complete game shutout against the Mets since 1992 (Tom Glavine). Pretty impressive stuff!
I brought this up last week. Good stuff!
If Sheets continues to pitch above well or even continue his strong play…and Malholm continues to pitch fairly well, Wren will be up for GM of the year.
August 11th, 20123:56 pm
Bench uggla for his own good tonight!
When is Simmons supposed to be back?
August 11th, 20123:57 pm
Cy Maholm was stout for sure!
August 11th, 20124:00 pm
Chokelson finally birdies….
• Maholm’s night: Just a couple of notes to follow up on Maholm’s three-hit shutout, which included five strikeouts and no walks. He did it in 95 pitches (64 strikes), the fewest by a Braves pitcher in a shutout since future Hall of Famer Greg Maddux threw back-to-back four-hitters in September 2000, in 90 pitches against Arizona and 89 pitches against Florida.
Exactly. What Maholm accomplished last night can’t be understated. Pauly not only went the distance, he in effect gave our entire bullpen a two day break when including the off day on Thursday. Such continuing efforts from our rotation will guarantee our bullpen doesn’t get over worked down the stretch.
August 11th, 20124:02 pm
Yes, let’s give Wren credit for Johnson, Sheets, and Maholm. Shouldn’t we also give Wren the blame for a 10 mil buyout/payout/loss on Lowe and a 13.3 mil foolish mistake on Uggla? Not to mention Melke and Blanco. Not to mention Resop at Pitt; not to mention failure to trade JJ when he had a chance and now to get nothing. And, Francoeur given away for nothing. Shouldn’t we also mention the failed Livan? Shouldn’t be also mention that Wren could have had Medlen winning all year long and that it took him 3 months to do that? So, let’s not credit him to much. He has done a ton of things wrong. And, hiring Fredi may be his biggest mistake.
Wren = GM of the year if Braves make playoffs.
August 11th, 20124:05 pm
Good to see dyspeptic ranting alive and well…
August 11th, 20124:06 pm
Mahom and Sheets will be no problem for the likes of the AL big boy bats and will struggle to get the Braves out of the first round, IF they get by the one game playoff thing this year. _ Denny Lemaster
Denny, my man, the Braves are a National League team.
August 11th, 20124:08 pm
McFann has become quite the party animal.
IMO it is crazy if freddi considered benching Uggla because he is scared to let him face a pitcher.
Let the guy grow up, compete and battle on the field with his team mates to win an important game against a quality pitcher. I’d be willing to bet that there are pitchers out there that experienced great success against Aaron and Chipper but I never heard of them being held out of a game because of who was standing on the bump! Another thing is they would not stand for it.
Uggla is hitting it ok right now – Let him do his job and give him a chance to be a leader by example. What does it say to the other players to hold him out because he has struggled against a guy while the others are banged up, bruised, tired (Prado, Bourn…)
Let him play!!!!!!!!!!!
August 11th, 20124:13 pm
Not to mention Melke and Blanco
Everyday I awake from a deep sleep and ask why Blanco was let go.
Please, make a little more sense and better effort next time.
August 11th, 20124:14 pm
We still need to get some pitching,Minor and Hanson are not going to cut it.
Mountain Braves Fan
August 11th, 20124:17 pm
Assuming offers for Bourn begin at 5 years and $75 million and go up from there, Victorino could be a good alternative for the Braves. Victorino is a switch-hitter, which would help make the lineup a little less left handed, good defensive centerfielder, speed and leadoff ability. His career OPS is about 70 points higher than Bourn’s. He is a professional hitter who has struck out about half as frequently (once every 8 or so at bats) in his career as Bourn (once every 4 or 5 at bats). Because Victorino is a couple of years older than Bourn, and he is having a down season statistically, he will likely get a contract that is shorter in duration (3 or 4 years as opposed to 5, 6 or even more years for Bourn) and fewer dollars per year than Bourn. Victorino likes LA and says he would like to stay there, but the Dodgers already have a pretty good centerfielder named Kemp, and they are rumored to be considering going after Josh Hamilton for left field.
I was googling something last night and ended up on a 2007 blog announcing John Schuerholz’s giving up the GM job. So I was reading the comments and came across one from you that y’all were going to have a baby. A naming contest broke out , journalist jimmy smith was one of the ringleaders and Braveheart was really good, too. Braveheart suggested some old gunslinger names, Bat Masterson was one of them, funny. Old Bravy has good taste, I miss him around here.
It would be one thing if Uggla was a rookie but he is not. Santana has owned Uggla to the tune of one hit in 21 at bats with 12 strike outs. Now if Uggs had not been struggling recently then no big deal, but he has and we need him to continue his good hitting.
August 11th, 20124:19 pm
Just watched Joost Luiten make a putt at the PGA.
…Would any MLB player name their son Joost?
The A Bomb
Like I keep saying Uggla’s the first player ever allowed to be on a major league rehab assignment.
1 2/3 seasons and counting….. 3 1/3 remaining. Oh boy. Get a hug.
Hope the braves don’t move Maholm to the bull pen when the head case Hanson gets off of D.L. If Maholm continues to have quality starts, put Hanson in bull pen until he gets his head screwed on straight. Hanson’s E.R.A. is now 4.30, which is terrible for a #2 starter. He should be delegated to the #4 spot if he remains in the rotation. He really isn’t one of the braves top 3 pitchers now. Sheets, Medlen, and Maholm are actually pitching the best of the braves starters now. They all continue to have quality starts, and that is something Hanson and even Hudson haven’t done lately. The scary thought is who would the braves start if they get into the playoffs the 1st 3 games?? You can bet brilliant fredi would start Hudson, Hanson, and probably Sheets. Wouldn’t feel too comfortable with that rotation in the playoffs. But thanks to Wren that is what the braves are stuck with. At least you want have to painfully watch Lowe this year.
August 11th, 20124:20 pm
Francoer regressed and needed a change. Blanco and Melky sucked when they were here. Livan wasn’t a risk and cost nothing and was worth a try. Medlin came off a major injury and was worked back slowly and effectively. JJ was pitching great, went to the All-Star game came back and got injured. GMs can’t predict knee injuries. And Freddi isn’t doing a bad job. Can always second guess a few moves but the players respond well to him. Uggla deal hasn’t been what we hoped for but he doesn’t swing the bat – Uggs does and based on what he had done in Miami the deal was ok.
Wren is ok
August 11th, 20124:21 pm
Lee maye = doofus
He did it in 95 pitches (64 strikes), the fewest by a Braves pitcher in a shutout since future Hall of Famer Greg Maddux threw back-to-back four-hitters in September 2000, in 90 pitches against Arizona and 89 pitches against Florida. _DOB
They don’t call what Maholm did last night throwing a Maddux for nothing.
August 11th, 20124:24 pm
Mark – well said to Lee…
Think he’ll comprehend?
August 11th, 20124:25 pm
For Hanson to start again this year someone will have to get hurt. He isn’t as good as Huddy, Sheets, Minor, Maholm or Medlin. If anyhting, they may jerk Medlin around and say they need him in the pen but that would be a bad move IMO
‘91 Braves…Why the hell would they move Malholm to the ‘pen?? Makes no sense.
Bat M. McFann has become quite the party animal.
Ha! Yeah right…
Actually, I think this is the first since Easter…
August 11th, 20124:28 pm
If you think Hanson is going to come off the DL and not be in the rotation, you’re nuts. Meds will go back to the ‘pen.
August 11th, 20124:29 pm
njbraves — totally agree. We need the back-of-the-pen righty anyways and No. 5 starter not in the postseason rotation anyway.
Would like to see Medlen spot start to give some of these guys an extra day — like Hudson.
August 11th, 20124:32 pm
Probably not. It would be nice to see what Wren and the brain trust could do with deeper pockets.
BTW Braves will miss Kershaw when the Dodgers come in next week.
August 11th, 20124:36 pm
Hanson goes right back in the rotation, like it or not…
Uggla is hitting again and I thought I post the stats he had last year during his 33 game hitting streak to remind those who wanted to trade or release Uggla what he can produce.
His slash line – .377 .438 .762 1.200
Stats projections for a year:
74 Home Runs
Not saying he going to do it again, but he has hit remarkably consistent during his career.
August 11th, 20124:37 pm
Really NJ, are you the expert now on this blog?? Since you are into name calling like most immature people on this blog. If i had a choice of who should be in the pen when Hanson comes back, it would be Hanson. And speaking of NUTS, you would be nuts to keep him in rotation ahead of Medlen or Maholm with his E.R.A. and i’m sure you aren’t aware of the fact that Hanson is the only braves starter that has allowed more hits than innings pitched. NUTS?????
I didn’t know we were talking about post season rotations. Right now, Medlin is a better starter than Hanson and to go into a game with the lesser starter on the mound and the better one sitting in the pen especially at this time of the year would not be smart in my opinion.
Oh, and lets refrain from the name calling and just give and take opinions respectfully.
August 11th, 20124:39 pm
We have njbraves….no delewarebraves?
Brave New World
August 11th, 20124:41 pm
Wren has done a very good job since he took over. The Braves were a team on the skids, and he turned them into winners in a relatively short time within demanding budget constraints. GO WREN! GO BRAVES!
August 11th, 20124:42 pm
Hanson doesn’t fit in the ‘pen — not equipped for late-game situations and no way the robot puts him in the ‘pen. Medlen is THE fit for the ‘pen at this point.
Hanson rarely sees the 7th inning and NEVER sees the 8th inning of any start — doesn’t hold runners and is not a reliever. He’s in the rotation despite any numbers you could pull out. That’s the way the coaching staff works.
August 11th, 20124:47 pm
Maybe they’ll reconsider but we’ll see. Have they said where he would throw before returning. Surely he’ll have a rehab start or two before they just throw him back in there. That’ll probably make the difficult call a little easier or maybe he comes back stronger. I think the funky motion has done him in. No velo = Not much success for him.
August 11th, 20124:49 pm
Funky delivery + years of pitching year-round out here in SoCal travel ball scene = burned out arm.
Got to preserve him and deal him while he still has SOME value. Minnesota would be a good spot for him — maybe some kind of deal for Span or someone like that.
August 11th, 20124:51 pm
‘91Braves…I didn’t say it was the best move, I said it is what will happen. Not sure why you keep bringing up Malholm, he’s a starter, not a reliever, same as Hanson. I’m well aware of how Hanson has pitched lately, but he’s going back into the rotation whether you cry about it or not.
i will agree with one thing you said, and that is this coaching staff works differently from most N.L. staffs. Just hope going down the stretch run, the braves don’t have one of their best starters sitting in the pen while another starter continues to struggle and continues to get lit up like a xmas tree.
August 11th, 20124:52 pm
I’m afraid he is only a step or two behind JJ right now unfortunately. You are definately right about him being no fit in the pen. Never would consider that. I’m afraid his fit isn’t with the Braves at all right now.
August 11th, 20124:53 pm
I believe if Kris conitinues to pitch well (as he has) he will not lose a starting spot, unless TH comes back off the DL and shows he’s back to his pre-All-Star ways. If Hanson comes back and looks similar(struggling) as he had his past 4 starts, have to be a fool to not go with Medlen. This is a pennant race and nothing should be handed to young starting pitchers. We gave JJ every opportunity and TH will be given opportunity to prove he’s back, but we have to be realistic if he isn’t.
August 11th, 20124:56 pm
How can we give Wren credit for spending wisely? KK, Lowe, Struggla, McOut (though McOut was a trade). KK, Lowe, and Uggla were egregious overpays, especially KK and Lowe. Now, if we weren’t on a middle market budget and had money like the yankees then the impact of the poor spending would not be quite as impactful.
Wren is spending $10M on a pitcher who should be serving drinks at the Chop House!!
I just saw KK. He was on buford highway laughing his ass off!!
August 11th, 20125:07 pm
All make sure to notice, as I am on here off and on. There is a difference in “iTiSi” and “itsi”. Have just noticed that one today, so don’t confuse those two. Look at them closely, as I am obviously the “smart and clever one” that everybody loves. I pull chains a lot, sometimes intentionally and some not.
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