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cricket
August 10th, 2012
1:36 pm
glad Fredi and Uggla don’t have twitter accounts –
Bobby Wilson spent his off day Thursday lamenting all the guff he’s taken as the Angels’ backup catcher. He got so tired of it he quit Twitter.
This is what he tweeted from his account, @BW46, at 10:57 a.m.:
“I’m done with twitter. Try to be fan friendly and all I get is criticism. I wasn’t blessed with 5 tools. I worked hard to get here.”
.
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Angels fans and others certainly are urging him to stay. Fox Sports West play-by-play guy Victor Rojas, who knows something about mixing it up with unruly tweeps, wrote: “@BW46 Dude, don’t let the barking dogs w no bite get you down. Bark back & keep doing what ur doing… ”
DAM
August 10th, 2012
1:37 pm
Being a #1 and being an ace are two different things.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 10th, 2012
1:39 pm
Okay, so Greinke might not be an ace, but is he a #2? We need one of those too…
P-Town Brave ©
August 10th, 2012
1:42 pm
Brian -
Gio was apparent the previous year….
Which is why it cost the Nats I believe 4 of their Top 15 prospects….
cricket
August 10th, 2012
1:44 pm
Greinke is a #1 Ace but he’ll never be on TheOnlyBravesFan’s team..
DAM
August 10th, 2012
1:44 pm
On an different note, Tyrann Mathieu has been dismissed from LSU. As an Auburn/SEC fan, thank goodness I don’t have to hear all the hype about him all year. He has to be one of the most overrated cover corners in college football.
cricket
August 10th, 2012
1:45 pm
from Buster Olney –
The bottom line is that the no team has a harder budget than the Braves, who are like cadets at a military school. They are given an allowance and cannot and do not spend beyond that, which means the improvements made by their team this season — the signing of Ben Sheets and the trades for Paul Maholm, Reed Johnson and Paul Janish – are the product of great work by their baseball operations department.
DiamondbackMac
August 10th, 2012
1:46 pm
TOBF
Yes, it never hurts to have good pitching and Greinke would probably help us. But, like several others here, I think the money involved in signing him would be exorbitant. He seems to have an inflated sense of his value.
David O'Brien
August 10th, 2012
1:46 pm
Just got to ballpark, 90 minutes after leaving my hotel. A tale of profuse sweating in a packed, stalled 7 train, a cab ride in weather-clogged NYC traffic, and standing outside waiting for someone to let me in the ballpark….
OK, gotta get to work on a new blog. Don’t know if we’ll play tonight or not. I’d guess no, but every time we think they won’t play, they usually do.
P-Town Brave ©
August 10th, 2012
1:47 pm
DBac Mac-
A) I highly doubt thats possible…..but even if its close….Greinke doesn’t have shoulder + back problems AND he’s played on much lesser quality teams….
Hard to gauge a true reading on comparison when Hanson should have many less W’s and Greinke should have many more.
Given what I have seen in the last year, I doubt you could even put them in the same category and scouts would agree w/ me….
No one is trading for Hanson down the stretch to help their rotation
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 10th, 2012
1:50 pm
Greinke is a #1 Ace but he’ll never be on TheOnlyBravesFan’s team..
Whose to say I wouldn’t become a fan of whoever he goes to?
Anyways, I’m still holding out hope that he comes here. Oh, how happy I’d be.
They are given an allowance and cannot and do not spend beyond that, which means the improvements made by their team this season are the product of great work by their baseball operations department.
Good work by the FO… not good work by the owners.
brian
August 10th, 2012
1:52 pm
P-Town – KC has said that they will deal Gordon for a starter, but I know they have to look forward to having an OF of Gordon, Cain, and Myers.
phil
August 10th, 2012
1:53 pm
Would someone please explain to me why I married a woman with zero financial insight whatsoever? Talk about a completely unsolvable problem….
Sigh.
brian
August 10th, 2012
1:54 pm
and the Braves to acquire a #1 starter like Gio would cost us Teheran/Delgado and 2-3 other highly thought of prospects no doubt.
Random
August 10th, 2012
1:55 pm
George (August 10th, 2012 11:29 am): “Interresting discussions on HANSON trade value, but he would never clear waivers so we could not trade him to help us this season.”
Unless the team that claims him will make a fair trade for him.
phil
August 10th, 2012
1:56 pm
David O’Brien
August 10th, 2012
1:46 pm
Just got to ballpark, 90 minutes after leaving my hotel. A tale of profuse sweating in a packed, stalled 7 train, a cab ride in weather-clogged NYC traffic, and standing outside waiting for someone to let me in the ballpark….
OK, gotta get to work on a new blog. Don’t know if we’ll play tonight or not. I’d guess no, but every time we think they won’t play, they usually do.
************
ACE and George will be without sympathy….
Sounds miserable. But you could still have a wife that spends every penny she perceives to exist without end…
Brian from SC
August 10th, 2012
1:58 pm
I’d like the Braves to be within 2 games of Washington by the time they visit on August 20th. That could involve the Braves going 7-3, and the Nationals 4-5, or some other permutation.
The Braves have 3 in New York, then host 4 against the Padres and 3 against the Dodgers.
The Nationals travel to Arizona and San Francisco for three, then host the Mets for three games.
Efrim
August 10th, 2012
1:58 pm
cricket, thanks for posting. Where did you get that quote from Buster?
cricket
August 10th, 2012
1:59 pm
DOB tweet -
Just sat in a packed 7 train for 20 minutes at Grand Central, sweating profusely. Train never moved; one stalled in front of it. Cab’ing now
what about the poor souls who had to “stand” in the packed stalled train?
Efrim
August 10th, 2012
2:00 pm
Ah, I see. A late addition from Olney in the blog this morning. Thanks for that. Buster is right. Wren has made some solid moves.
P-Town Brave ©
August 10th, 2012
2:01 pm
FWIW, I like the FIP stat as it takes BB, K, HR, and IP into true account….
Careerwise comparison:
Hanson FIP: 3.605
Greinke FIP: 3.366
cricket
August 10th, 2012
2:01 pm
Efrim – it is from Buster’s blog. i guess it needs paid account. got excerpt from some other site.
P-Town Brave ©
August 10th, 2012
2:04 pm
Oh, and btw, I’m sure it’d become even more a glaring contrast if you used dERA and looked at their differences in run support….as we all know Hanson gets a boatload of.
Random
August 10th, 2012
2:05 pm
Wow (August 10th, 2012 11:33 am): ” ‘I think a rotation of Hudson/Minor/Medlen/Maholm/Delgado with Beachy added midseason is good enough to win’
“Wren should be fired if he goes into next season with a rotation like that.”
Don’t you think Wren should be fired anyway?
Efrim
August 10th, 2012
2:07 pm
The obstacle in the way of a trade for Shields would be the major league assets the Braves would be able to offer. TB needs position players at 1B, C, DH, SS, and potentially 2B or corner OF(depends on where Zobrist plays). They don’t really need pitching with Price, Moore, Hellickson, Cobb, Niemann in the bigs and Archer and Torres close to ready.
jeffrey d
August 10th, 2012
2:08 pm
DOB – did your tweets result in prompt upgrades from the city of New York?
MikeInFl
August 10th, 2012
2:09 pm
Careerwise comparison:
Hanson FIP: 3.605
Greinke FIP: 3.366
Just for kicks…
Randall Delgado FIP
June ‘12: 3.69
July ‘12: 3.66
Of course this is an absurdly small sample size. But I do think Delgado gets too little appreciation in discussing next year’s rotation. I think he’ll be a solid #3, if not better.
jeffrey d
August 10th, 2012
2:09 pm
There’s a pretty good article on Yahoo about how Jason Heyward is pretty good at just 23. They also quote Mr. DOB
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/remember-jason-heyward-having-good-season-again-only-155552288–mlb.html#more-46305
jeffrey d
August 10th, 2012
2:10 pm
Pardon my redundancy…
cricket
August 10th, 2012
2:12 pm
DOB – did your tweets result in prompt upgrades from the city of New York?
NY metro promptly tracked down and kicked off the offending twit forcing him to look for a cab…
Brian from SC
August 10th, 2012
2:14 pm
The rain has moved past Queens. It will be soggy out there, but there will be baseball at 7:10 tonight.
kenhotlanta
August 10th, 2012
2:15 pm
Hillbilly: “Pootie Tang” was an underappreciated satire and funny as hell, and not a straight comedy, IMHO. It was similar to Christopher Guest’s movies like Spinal Tap, Best in Show and A Mighty Wind. I love those types of movies.
DAP
August 10th, 2012
2:23 pm
phil Would someone please explain to me why I married a woman with zero financial insight whatsoever? Talk about a completely unsolvable problem….
she is probably wondering why she married a weenie who has to vent about her on a baseball blog.
P.S. you probably married her because you love her. try not to forget that.
DAP
August 10th, 2012
2:33 pm
guess i killed the blog with my marriage advice. that should tell me something.
DiamondbackMac
August 10th, 2012
2:34 pm
P-Town
Hanson FIP: 3.605
Greinke FIP: 3.366
Not identical, but very close to the same. Maybe one run difference in four games.
Murph
August 10th, 2012
2:42 pm
Is it just me or does rain always seem to threaten the day after an off-day?
Nothing worse than an off-day followed by a rainout… except maybe being a Mets fan. That’s worse.
Arkansas Transplant
August 10th, 2012
2:43 pm
DiamondbackMac, what’s the difference in quality starts?
jeffrey d
August 10th, 2012
2:43 pm
Nothing worse than an off-day followed by a rainout… except maybe being a Mets fan. That’s worse.
Or being murdered
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 10th, 2012
2:50 pm
jeffrey d Or being murdered
Yeah! Then you wouldn’t get to watch baseball ever again!…
Murph
August 10th, 2012
2:51 pm
Or being murdered
You kinda jumped that up a notch…
I dunno… Mets fan… murdered… Mets fan… murdered… kind of a wash if you ask me.
Murph
August 10th, 2012
2:53 pm
Yeah! Then you wouldn’t get to watch baseball ever again!…
Would you rather never watch baseball ever again… or be stuck watching Mets baseball the rest of your life?
jeffrey d
August 10th, 2012
2:54 pm
Well it’s worse…
Jack Fate
August 10th, 2012
2:58 pm
Heyman just tweeted that Derek Lowe would be willing to come out of the pen. Hypothetically, if the Braves signed him, would they have to pay him?
njbraves
August 10th, 2012
3:01 pm
If the Braves sign Derek Lowe, they should shut down the franchise.
cricket
August 10th, 2012
3:02 pm
if braves sign Lowe, they would have to pay him whatever new salary they negotiate – on top of what they are already paying towards his existing salary
Brian from SC
August 10th, 2012
3:02 pm
Hypothetically, if the Braves signed him, would they have to pay him?
Pro-rated portion of the major league minimum.
DiamondbackMac
August 10th, 2012
3:03 pm
Arkansas Transplant
I hadn’t looked at that until you asked. It’s Greinke- 14, Hanson-9.
Veer
August 10th, 2012
3:04 pm
So game rained out today? no game?
Brian from SC
August 10th, 2012
3:04 pm
Technically, the Braves aren’t paying Lowe anymore. The Indians paid him this year…it’s just the Braves wrote the Indians a $10 million check in the trade.
Brian from SC
August 10th, 2012
3:06 pm
The radar is clear right now, but I guess they think more storms are going to develop. If I had to guess based on what I’m seeing, I’d say the Braves are playing ball tonight.
phil
August 10th, 2012
3:07 pm
DAP
August 10th, 2012
2:23 pm
phil Would someone please explain to me why I married a woman with zero financial insight whatsoever? Talk about a completely unsolvable problem….
she is probably wondering why she married a weenie who has to vent about her on a baseball blog.
P.S. you probably married her because you love her. try not to forget that.
***********
You make a good point, but since it’s basically anonymous here and I’m pissed off, I thought I’d say something anyway.
Not all of us are nearly as perfect as you might be and a few others here with their giant egos. I wish I could claim such lofty status in the game of life.
Arkansas Transplant
August 10th, 2012
3:09 pm
Lowe might be alright to use in September when rosters expand and only in games that we’re leading by no less than 6 runs. Not to mention, as long as we don’t have to drop someone from the 40 man roster to do it.
phil
August 10th, 2012
3:09 pm
Murph
August 10th, 2012
2:42 pm
Is it just me or does rain always seem to threaten the day after an off-day?
Nothing worse than an off-day followed by a rainout… except maybe being a Mets fan. That’s worse.
************
Wasn’t it a rainout this time last year or so, in NY, that we all wanted to blame for ruining the season thereafter? A “true” Braves fan has to have a stable of ready-made excuses!!
coastalbrave
August 10th, 2012
3:12 pm
Aren’t we already paying him?
Brian from SC
August 10th, 2012
3:13 pm
Aren’t we already paying him?
Brian from SC
August 10th, 2012
3:14 pm
Aren’t we already paying him?
No.
coastalbrave
August 10th, 2012
3:15 pm
Brian, thanks, I saw your comment above after I posted the question.
Ward
August 10th, 2012
3:17 pm
Hello everyone! I would go with Bourn over Greinke. Don’t want the Phillies, or Nats picking him up next year. Another great day for baseball, and we need to win this series….. I say we hire some hit men to take out Harper, and Strasburge, as well as Zimmerman. Than things should be even, and the Braves can gain some ground after the Muts series. little humor.
P-Town Brave ©
August 10th, 2012
3:21 pm
Mike in FL-
Agreed! If Delgado got half the run support that Hanson, Hudson, or JJ have received this year, ppl would be kissing his arse all over Braves Country….
Delgado is much better than his W/L record would suggest and Tommy Hanson much worse…
http://twitter.com/PTownBrave22
Arkansas Transplant
August 10th, 2012
3:22 pm
Ward, Greinke will just strike out Bourn when he joins one of those teams.. I say let them spend big on him and we’ll spend big on some shut down pitchers.
phil
August 10th, 2012
3:23 pm
Strasburge?
LOL
Pace
August 10th, 2012
3:24 pm
Atlanta Braves @Braves
Tonight’s lineup at NYM (7:10, PTV/680AM/BRN): Bourn 8 Prado 7 Heyward 9 Jones 5 Freeman 3 Uggla 4 Ross 2 Janish 6 Maholm 1
Ross starting over McCann? He just had two days off – is there an injury I missed?
ncbravesfan90
August 10th, 2012
3:24 pm
Not a good sign, McCann not in starting lineup after two days off…..
David O'Brien
August 10th, 2012
3:24 pm
McCann’s out of lineup again, Fredi to explain when clubhouse opens in 15 minutes
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 10th, 2012
3:24 pm
Murph Would you rather never watch baseball ever again… or be stuck watching Mets baseball the rest of your life?
Sort of a Heaven or Hell type question, isn’t it?…
Pace
August 10th, 2012
3:25 pm
David O’Brien @ajcbraves
McCann’s out of #Braves lineup again, Fredi Gonzalez to explain when clubhouse opens in 15 minutes
****
And there’s the answer
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 10th, 2012
3:26 pm
WHAT THE CRAP?? WHY ISN’T BMAC PLAYING??????
Brian from SC
August 10th, 2012
3:26 pm
Hopefully it’s just some nagging thing, or maybe a bug of some sort for Mac.
Ward
August 10th, 2012
3:26 pm
We need Bourn, and would go with a Medlen, Sheets, Maholm, Delgado, and Minor rotation until Beachy comes back. I would keep Moylan, and put Moylan in Medlens spot in bullpen for next year.
MFin04
August 10th, 2012
3:26 pm
Ross over McCann…
Hmm could it because Ross is a better baserunner, catcher, and hitter?!?
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 10th, 2012
3:27 pm
Dear LORD no, not another bug…
But if it is his shoulder, maybe NOW THEY’LL TELL US ABOUT IT!!!…
David O'Brien
August 10th, 2012
3:27 pm
Braves lineup: Bourn CF, Prado LF, Heyward RF, Jones 3B, Freeman 1B, Uggla 2B, Ross C, Janish SS, Maholm LH
Ward
August 10th, 2012
3:28 pm
I bet Mac ate to many Big Macs…….Little humor.
Efrim
August 10th, 2012
3:28 pm
McCann’s out of lineup again, Fredi to explain when clubhouse opens in 15 minutes
Could be his back or something.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 10th, 2012
3:29 pm
……It hasn’t been 15 minutes, has it?…
MFin04
August 10th, 2012
3:31 pm
McFann – You officially made it five minutes, ten more to go
Venice Jim
August 10th, 2012
3:31 pm
Mark Bowman @mlbbowman
McCann is out of the lineup again tonight. He’s been dealing w/ a sore right shoulder. Might just need one more day. Will know more shortly
Efrim
August 10th, 2012
3:31 pm
Ryan (miami): what do you think of Braves prospect Joe Terdoslavich’s second half after the demotion to Mississippi?
J.J. Cooper: Hard to get too excited about a guy doing better after a demotion when he looked as bad as Joey T. did in Triple-A. He’s still a prospect, but there are still questions about whether he can play 3B, and if he can’t play 3B, where does he fit in a lineup?
DiamondbackMac
August 10th, 2012
3:32 pm
McFann
Only 8 minutes.
Efrim
August 10th, 2012
3:33 pm
Best thing about Orioles prospect RHP Dylan Bundy is that he has yet to throw his best pitch because the Orioles won’t allow him too – has a nasty cutter.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 10th, 2012
3:33 pm
He’s been dealing w/ a sore right shoulder.
Thanks for the scoop, Mark!…
(ITS)
MFin—
As long as these minutes are quicker than my orthodontist’s…
Ward
August 10th, 2012
3:33 pm
Better give Mac some whoppers too while your at it. Little humor.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 10th, 2012
3:34 pm
BMac with a sore shoulder…. give that guy some rest, Rossy can handle it. He’s hit better in his last 10 games than BMac has…
BTW, this isn’t helping BMac get a bigger contract, or help him stay with the Braves…
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 10th, 2012
3:34 pm
DBackMac—
“Only”??…
David O'Brien
August 10th, 2012
3:37 pm
New BLOGGAGE
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/08/10/this-time-no-hurricanes-headed-toward-new-york/
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 10th, 2012
3:37 pm
Maybe give Mac some DL time? They say he needs just 1 more day, but he’s been messing with that shoulder for months…
Ward
August 10th, 2012
3:37 pm
Macs, Injuries are getting kind of old. Whats next?
The Rock
August 10th, 2012
5:40 pm
The Rock says, “It’s 5:45 pm on Friday. You had the day off on Thursday, and theres still no new blog? Get to crackle lacking!”
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September 27th, 2012
10:55 am
It is happiness!
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October 3rd, 2012
2:12 am
What words… super