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Venice Jim
August 9th, 2012
4:49 pm
If the season ended today we’d have lots of time to set up the rotation…
Efrim
August 9th, 2012
4:52 pm
Braves would host Pirates in wild-card “play-in”
I’d rather face them in a one gamer than the Cardinals.
Interestingly enough, the Braves end the season in Pittsburgh for 3 games. That could be for home field advantage in the one-gamer.
McKee
August 9th, 2012
4:52 pm
I hope they would have Sid Bream throw out the first pitch in that play in game.
Efrim
August 9th, 2012
4:54 pm
Adam Wainwright is on pace to have a really nice season coming off of TJ surgery. I can only hope Beachy’s comeback is as good – although not expecting a ton until 2014(his first arb. eligible season).
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 9th, 2012
4:56 pm
Interestingly enough, the Braves end the season in Pittsburgh for 3 games. That could be for home field advantage in the one-gamer.
Hopefully not… we should’ve wrapped up the division by then.
Efrim
August 9th, 2012
4:58 pm
Carlos Beltran is hitting .284/.356/.545. On pace for 67 XBH’s and 153 games played. He’s appeared in 106 games to date.
ChattTownBrian
August 9th, 2012
5:05 pm
I bet we just got a taste last night of what we can highly expect in a do or die playoff game, or a game to reach the playoffs. Huddy isn’t a guy I want leading the charge anymore. I honestly never felt it was a slam dunk with him in crucial games anyways, and more than not he has proved my thinking right. Our offense right now must do the same thing down the wire because the pitching isn’t so great, starters aren’t.
ChattTownBrian
August 9th, 2012
5:08 pm
I mean Hudson can be unreal bad. Leaving hangers all over the plate. He doesn’t seem to get corrected either within an inning like that. When he goes, he goes fast. He also labors a lot this year in a start more than I remember in the past. He isn’t any fun to watch.
jfp
August 9th, 2012
5:11 pm
Efrim, I was definitely with you on the thought of Beltran playing for the Braves.
ChattTownBrian
August 9th, 2012
5:13 pm
Our starters will have people on edge come mid/late September. Every one has a question mark hanging over them. Just have to hold on tight and get ready for a wild ride with them. They can pitch great, or get hammered. Either way I won’t be surprised.
MAD
August 9th, 2012
5:16 pm
chatttownbrian
enough of the kneejerk observations please. football game on tonight, more your speed.
P-Town Brave ©
August 9th, 2012
5:18 pm
I see what some are saying, but a couple things….
Pastornicky can legitimately play more than a couple positions, his bat is the key here as he can hit and doesn’t K too much AND most importantly he can run like the wind….ALWAYS a good thing to have off the bench come playoff time…
The 2nd point, we would be carrying an extra bat off the bench early in the playoffs w/ at least 1 less starting pitcher….
So Johnson, Ross, Francisco, Janish, Pastor, and X bat would be plausible….
For me, Hinske would have to go…..he’s not ever going to play in a starting spot for you down the stretch, his defense is shaky at best in any position, he can’t run so he can’t help you there, and he’s hitting something like .150 in PH opportunities….
IF we could find another capable LHH that could hit off the bench, he would be the guy to go…
Frankly, the ONLY reason he has stuck this long is because he is well liked w/in the clubhouse.
P-Town Brave ©
August 9th, 2012
5:19 pm
Efrim-
Sure does make those ppl that disagreed w/ me about signing Beltran feel stupid doesnt it?
Or at least it should!
Lew
August 9th, 2012
5:32 pm
PTown – It doesn’t matter if Beltran played every game this year and won the batting crown – the fact was we didn’t have the money to sign him and he was never a realistic option no matter how much some wanted him here.
nolie
August 9th, 2012
5:35 pm
we didn’t have the 13mil then, but in July we were assured that there was no player financially out of our reach. hmmmmm
Lew
August 9th, 2012
5:37 pm
Not to mention, where would he have played since we already have a pretty excellent outfield as it is.
Lew
August 9th, 2012
5:38 pm
Big difference in paying two months of someone “not financially out of reach” and ponying up $26 mil for a two year contract.
nolie
August 9th, 2012
5:38 pm
I’m sure we could have found room over the season for a 900 OPS
P-Town Brave ©
August 9th, 2012
5:39 pm
Lew-
The point is not that we did or didn’t have the money OR where he would have played….
Its that me and a couple others who were given a hypothetical that IF we had the $ and a spot for him….we were told flat out we were morons for wanting ANYTHING to do w/ him….
nolie
August 9th, 2012
5:40 pm
they were talking about extending Greinke and that would be way more than 26 mil for two years
Lew
August 9th, 2012
5:40 pm
And even so, we ended up with Maholm and Johnson – hardly a $13 mil expenditure – even with all of next year factored into the equation.
Lew
August 9th, 2012
5:41 pm
No, people here and in the runor columns were talking about extendiung Greinke – never heard a word from Wren about it.
nolie
August 9th, 2012
5:42 pm
not so sure about that Lew, I think he said something about being able to re-sign him.
nolie
August 9th, 2012
5:44 pm
anyway he has stayed healthy and produced which is not all that much a surprise since last year would have been more questionable than this year was
P-Town Brave ©
August 9th, 2012
5:44 pm
Lew-
Wren isn’t allowed to discuss that unless the guy is on the team….
There is a thing called tampering
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 9th, 2012
5:44 pm
The 2nd point, we would be carrying an extra bat off the bench early in the playoffs w/ at least 1 less starting pitcher….
THIS! But I was told that defensive guys that can’t hit are waaay more important
Lew
August 9th, 2012
5:46 pm
PTown – Yeah, and earlier today we had at least one person here claiming we should bench starters and find a way for Reed Johnson to get more playing time – there’s always going to be absurd declarations of all kinds here and plenty of people making claims about one player or another – but what is realistic and what might actually have a likelihood of happening? Not so much of that and when there is there’s always nto be someone claimiing THAT is stupid.
Lew
August 9th, 2012
5:47 pm
PTown – Wren never discusses anything about anyone specific at any time in the media.
Lew
August 9th, 2012
5:48 pm
We’re in the middle of a big thunder boomer here with lightning getting closer – I’m checking out right about now. Have a good one y’all.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 9th, 2012
5:52 pm
lightning’s no biggie…
Take care Lew!
Efrim
August 9th, 2012
5:57 pm
Beltran probably would of costed us Prado and Jurrjens, anyway. But the idea that he was an injury waiting to happen was weak. One knee injury that he had showed he had recovered from. Still shutting people up this year.
brian
August 9th, 2012
6:00 pm
I don’t like the play in game in the wild card as an option for the Braves. We need to win the division.
P-Town Brave ©
August 9th, 2012
6:02 pm
Yes we need to win the division….but realistically look at this:
Braves 4-8 against the Nats and would need to go 5-1 in last 6 just to match the head to head….
As much as I would love for it to happen, we are fighting truly an uphill battle as they aren’t even losing games now that they should AND their schedule isn’t all that much tougher than ours down the stretch.
Waffle House or Bust
August 9th, 2012
6:07 pm
Now we know how the Met’s felt back in the 90s.
nolie
August 9th, 2012
6:16 pm
why would Beltram have costed us any player, efrim?
Brave New World
August 9th, 2012
6:17 pm
If any of you think Uggla is overpaid, you might want to check out what The Mets are getting from Jason Bay. Uggla looks like a bargain compared to Bay. BTW I agree that Uggla’s .218 BA is unacceptable, but he will likely finish around .240 – .250 with 100 runs scored and about 80-90 RBI’s. He’s a great team player also.
Murph
August 9th, 2012
6:33 pm
Good golly, PTown has returned!
Started snowing yet in IL, PT?
nolie
August 9th, 2012
6:41 pm
hey Murph, I heard that is the feral hog population gets any worse down there that they are gonna start drafting Texans, give them a B-Bar knife and put them on Bacon-makin’ duty
nolie
August 9th, 2012
6:42 pm
K-Bar Knife…..
nolie
August 9th, 2012
6:43 pm
are they ever gonna play another game?
ACE
August 9th, 2012
6:50 pm
Too bad the playoffs don’t start today.
David O'Brien
August 9th, 2012
7:01 pm
Liberty = .500 record. — Rick
When, Rick?
Liberty has owned the Braves since 2007. The team finished 10 games over .500 in 2009 (86-76), 20 games over .500 (91-71) in 2010, 16 games over .500 in 2011 (89-63), and they’re currently 64-47, third-best record in the National League and fifth-best in the majors.
So when does .500 begin? Or are you just shooting from the hip and not letting pesky facts get in the way?
nolie
August 9th, 2012
7:02 pm
wild hogs all over the South, coyotes in NYC.
Mother Nature is marshaling her forces to overthrow the tyranny of man
Trader Jack
August 9th, 2012
7:19 pm
Watching the Olympics – women beating the hell out of each other in the ring
Trader Jack
August 9th, 2012
7:20 pm
My how times have changed
Efrim
August 9th, 2012
7:23 pm
Alex Wood, Julio Teheran and Lucas Sims all going tonight for Braves minor league affiliates.
bravofan
August 9th, 2012
7:23 pm
How much would you guys pay for a autographed marcus giles louisville slugger mini bat? without coa
ACE
August 9th, 2012
7:24 pm
How about Liberty is below .500 in the playoffs, the one year that the braves went.
Mixxo
August 9th, 2012
7:25 pm
Off days……I’m not crazy about them.
Efrim
August 9th, 2012
7:26 pm
nolie, I’m guessing they would of had to trade Prado and Jurrjens to sign Beltran to 12.5 per year.
ACE
August 9th, 2012
7:33 pm
Fredi at .518 winning pct. No division titles and No playoff appearances but a lot of cap tipping.
Mixxo
August 9th, 2012
7:40 pm
This new Falcons’ ‘…3 yds. and a cloud of dust’ offense is incredible!
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 9th, 2012
7:44 pm
Alex Wood, Julio Teheran and Lucas Sims all going tonight for Braves minor league affiliates.
Wood has the best night, Sims 2nd, and Teheran is 3rd.
MixxoOff days……I’m not crazy about them.
Something Mixxo and I can agree on!
Powderfinger
August 9th, 2012
8:12 pm
I also hate off-days at this point in the season, although they’re undoubtedly beneficial for the boys in uniform. Haven’t been able to really catch a game this week, so I guess I’m just being selfish…
ChattTownBrian
August 9th, 2012
8:16 pm
“are they ever gonna play another game” nolie
Some of you people need to chill the F out! The spoiled children here need to realize these guys need every breather they can get this time of the year. Geez!
ChattTownBrian
August 9th, 2012
8:20 pm
ACE, just shutup! Nothing is good enough for Mr.ACE, is it? UGH!
Powderfinger
August 9th, 2012
8:20 pm
CTB—A little too much caffeine today? Geez indeed…
Powderfinger
August 9th, 2012
8:21 pm
CTB—Now as far as ACE goes, just have at it…
ChattTownBrian
August 9th, 2012
8:23 pm
Fredi is an award winning manager. He has won many trophies of him with his thumb and index finger on the bill of his ball cap. Take that haters!
SteveInFRXB
August 9th, 2012
8:24 pm
Teheran with another rough outing tonight. 5 runs, 8 hits so far.
ChattTownBrian
August 9th, 2012
8:25 pm
Powderfinger, I like powder, too! Somebody say CRACK!
ncbravesfan90
August 9th, 2012
8:27 pm
If anyone wants any positives for this off day, don’t look at Teheran’s line at Gwinnett tonight. Another very bad outing…
George
August 9th, 2012
8:27 pm
Hi all
We are doing very well now but need some help. we only 6 games left with WAS so we need other teams to beat WAS enough to cut thier lead to one or two games so if we win four out of the six we will get division.
ChattTownBrian
August 9th, 2012
8:27 pm
Teheran is starting to look like a busty bust. Can’t even count how any times I’ve read somebody post another awful outing from him this year. Unless he’s hurt, but surely they wouldn’t push a minor leaguer if they even suspected an injury.
Disgusted
August 9th, 2012
8:29 pm
Those Nats are relly good. Braves are pretty good but Nats are much much better.
Disgusted
August 9th, 2012
8:30 pm
Teheran is a BUMB who deserves to be Booed.
George
August 9th, 2012
8:30 pm
ACE
August 9th, 2012
7:33 pm
Fredi at .518 winning pct. No division titles and No playoff appearances but a lot of cap tipping.
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YUPPERS
ACE
August 9th, 2012
8:32 pm
CTB, if you consider never making the playoffs good enough then keep on drinking that koolaid. Pour Powderfinger another glass too. Maybe you like watching other teams in the playoffs.
George
August 9th, 2012
8:32 pm
I think the real “Disgusted” spells better.
Powderfinger
August 9th, 2012
8:33 pm
CTB—No drug references are to be inferred from my moniker, just a nod to a classic Neil Young song. But, as a child of the 70’s, my closet is somewhat inhabited by skeletons…
ACE
August 9th, 2012
8:34 pm
The Cardinals voted Fredi regular season MVP last year.
ACE
August 9th, 2012
8:36 pm
Everyone thought Dempster was going to come here since he had that Florida connection with Fredi.
Disgusted
August 9th, 2012
8:38 pm
“Disappointed in my boy Disgusted. Can’t jump ship because of a bad Huddy outing.”
I did not really jump ship, I was just mad at Huddy last night. He is not BUMB & the Braves did bounce back though I was asleep at the time they rallied.
Go get em next time Huddy, and there are good signs about Uggla as of late. He is getting back into the .220’s and that is good.
Disgusted
August 9th, 2012
8:42 pm
I see the NFL is now trying to go with replacement referees and in one case a Referette?????
Only in America.
Powderfinger
August 9th, 2012
8:46 pm
Disgusted—I think I read that the replacements are a mixture of CFL, XFL, college, Arena League, Lingerie League and retired refs. Puhleeezzzzze…
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 9th, 2012
9:04 pm
Teheran with another rough outing tonight. 5 runs, 8 hits so far.
I expected it too… he’s not looking good this year. I’m concerned. Hoping he’s not a bust, esp. since we could’ve had practically anyone for him, but damn, has he fallen off from last year. His numbers don’t even look respectable…
SteveInFRXB
August 9th, 2012
9:13 pm
Alex Wood tonight: 4 IP, 3 R (0 ER), 3 H, 1 BB, 5 K. Not bad, the Ks are nice to see. The unearned runs were his own doing (throwing error).
SteveInFRXB
August 9th, 2012
9:15 pm
Lucas Sims: 4 IP, 3 ER, 7 H, 0 BB, 6 K: Again, the K/BB is nice.
Venice Jim
August 9th, 2012
9:31 pm
Are you implying that women are inferior by that comment, Disgusted?
Venice Jim
August 9th, 2012
9:32 pm
Or that they are just unable to understand football due to their sensitive nature?
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 9th, 2012
9:33 pm
Cab didn’t make you post that, did she VJ?
cabravesfan
August 9th, 2012
9:34 pm
Sensitive nature??? Anyone that thinks that needs to listen to Heather and me scream at our TVs during football season
cabravesfan
August 9th, 2012
9:34 pm
No, Cab didn’t make him post that- he’s at work & I’m home
brian
August 9th, 2012
9:36 pm
I would consider shutting Teheran down for now in games, letting his arm rest, and having him work with a pitching coach full time or Braves assistant to the GM (Glavine or Smoltz).
Then I would have him pitch in the Arizona Fall League if he is healthy.
He has run into a road block this year. Yes he is having a bad year but it is hard to call him a bust when absolutely dominated this same league last year. Something is up – mechanically or health wise. I think he is going backwards by continuing to pitch in AAA at this time
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 9th, 2012
9:36 pm
Well, I’m know women are fine, great actually, but I just have to note that of all the umpires I have encountered during my baseball play, the 3 of the 4 women umpires I have had weren’t very good.
One was so bad that they flinched with every pitch and shrieked when a ball was fouled straight back. The fact that she set up behind the batters boxes and a good 4 feet behind the catcher didn’t help me with my pitching that day…
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 9th, 2012
9:38 pm
Something is up – mechanically or health wise.
I’d hope it’s mechanical…. If it’s a health issue, it won’t be good. Look at JJ.
cabravesfan
August 9th, 2012
9:43 pm
There is no doubt women can officiate a professional game as well as (or in some cases, better than) any man, but the problem is that officials are a “good ole boys” club and many women don’t get the proper experience and then are suddenly thrust into the spotlight because of pressure or media attention and they are not ready. Thus, those that feel women are NOT good enough point to this type of situation as proof that women shouldn’t officiate men’s pro games…which, of course, is ridiculous.
End Rant
brian
August 9th, 2012
9:44 pm
what is the book on the remaining rotation in Lynchburg? Aaron, Cody and Gus all have good ERAs and huge strikeout totals.
Venice Jim
August 9th, 2012
9:45 pm
Of course, I could have commented on the “only in America” part of the comment, given the widespread status of football elsewhere around the globe…
SteveInFRXB
August 9th, 2012
9:47 pm
Regarding Lynchburg, I’m pretty sure I’ve heard that the Carolina League is historically very pitcher-friendly, so not sure how much you can read into some of those stats. I may be wrong though!
brian
August 9th, 2012
9:48 pm
JJ never had Teheran’s ceiling or arm to start with.
I still think it is mechanical – ball is flat/no movement, tipping pitches, or arm slot is off, etc. He could also just have a dead arm.
Just seems that someone with his arm and talent would almost have his personal pitching coach, at least at home. Send him to Dark Star or somewhere to work on mechanics and fundamentals. Improve a breaking pitch, etc. for the next month+ then let him pitch in Arizona Fall League
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 9th, 2012
9:50 pm
cab: I don’t mind women umpires. I really don’t. I just wish I could’ve had some better experiences with them. I’m sure there are good ones out there. Now for a women baseball coach, that’d take a while, given all the pats and hugs I give my coach and he gives me… Not that I’d mind if it was a woman…
Trader Jack
August 9th, 2012
9:53 pm
cab
Some guys just need to stop dragging their knuckles on the ground, and get with the program
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 9th, 2012
9:53 pm
JJ never had Teheran’s ceiling or arm to start with.
That wasn’t really my point. Was just pointing out what a health issue could do.
He could also just have a dead arm.
Gawd, I hope not.
cabravesfan
August 9th, 2012
9:56 pm
Rant was not directed at anyone in particular
but it is one of those things that, as a woman, is sorta an issue for me…
MikeInFl
August 9th, 2012
9:58 pm
I’ve tried to “research” what’s up with Teheran (without spending any money on subscriptions, of course), and have read a handful of articles about him. There doesn’t seem to be any clear consensus as to what’s wrong, but the general theories are (a) a loss of confidence since he got battered around in spring training, and (b) mechanical issues that are rendering his change-up ineffective, and causing his fastball to stay up in the zone.
He still has the electric stuff in flashes, just can’t seem to repeat it with any consistency.
All of this sounds “fixable” to me, and I guess they think it’s better for him to work through it against live competition. Hard to know what his frame of mind is, or his health, but you gotta assume that the coaches are taking all that into account in handling him.
Efrim
August 9th, 2012
10:11 pm
Can someone tell me how a pitcher can go from being one of the best RH pitching prospects in the sport to garbage in a few months? Really appreciate it. Thanks.
Does.Not.Compute.
Ric Flair to Right
August 9th, 2012
10:11 pm
I’ve seen teheran pitch 5 times this year and 8 times lat year, stuff has fallen off a cliff. Fastball last years 92-96, this year 90-93, curveball has taken a giant step back, biggest thing I see is fastball command.
Disgusted
August 9th, 2012
10:13 pm
Lucas Sims: 4 IP, 3 ER, 7 H, 0 BB, 6 K: Again, the K/BB is nice.
Sounds like scrub end of the 40 man roster when is is 27 to me. Bumb numbers — he deserves to be Booed.
cabravesfan
August 9th, 2012
10:13 pm
Wow. I really hope you are joking, Disgusted. If not, that’s really sad. And a bit, well, disgusting.