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David O'Brien
August 9th, 2012
12:57 pm
Uggla has hit .297 with six extra-base hits, 11 RBIs and a .840 OPS in his past 10 games, after hitting .110 with four extra-base hits, 9 RBIs and a .461 OPS in his previous 42 games.
Shaun
August 9th, 2012
12:57 pm
The only question for Kimbrel as he reached the majors was whether he would have enough control to be an elite reliever, because his control wasn’t great in the minors. But I’ll say he’s taken care of that.
If you need an out or three in the highest of leverage situations, hard to argue against Kimbrel. There are few guys that are even in the conversation? Seems to me the only others are dominating starters like Verlander, Strasburg or King Felix, if you could have them come in for a short burst, or maybe Aroldis Chapman as the only reliever in that class.
brian
August 9th, 2012
12:58 pm
I would offer Heyward the same contract as McCutchen or slightly less – that is a reasonable contract for Heyward and for the Braves
Efrim
August 9th, 2012
12:58 pm
13:$3.5M, 14:$6.5M, 15:$9.5M, 16:$11M, 17:$12M, 18:$13M club option ($1M buyout)
Something like that for Jason….
George
August 9th, 2012
12:59 pm
Good day all
Wierd game last night. lucky to get the win. FREDI amost cost us the game bye leaveing HUDDY in to long,
Efrim
August 9th, 2012
1:01 pm
id sign heyward to a freakin 8 year deal. freeman too.
Not sure Jason and his agent would do that. He signs this first deal and he is a free agent after the 2018 season which will be for his age 29-30 year old season starting in 2019. Sets him perfectly for free agency then.
Arkansas Transplant
August 9th, 2012
1:02 pm
I’d just assume the offer made to Heyward was built around a lower yearly salary with a paid out bonus up front given the payroll flexibility we currently have.
George
August 9th, 2012
1:07 pm
Part Of FREDI Q and A last night.
guy who didn’t so anything tonight was Chipper. I may have to get on him a little bit.
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How dare FREDI say even one word to CHIPPER? CHIPPER plays all out every game. Damn idiot FREDI.
keylargo
August 9th, 2012
1:07 pm
17 year old High School Junior wins Gold Medal for USA in womens boxing.
Jeff R
August 9th, 2012
1:08 pm
I’d be leery of signing really long contract with any player these days. Too much exposure in terms of injury or decline… ties up a lot of budget in today’s market.
cabravesfan
August 9th, 2012
1:09 pm
George-
Dude. Relax. Pretty sure Fredi was joking.
Efrim
August 9th, 2012
1:12 pm
I’d be leery of signing really long contract with any player these days. Too much exposure in terms of injury or decline… ties up a lot of budget in today’s market.
You run the risk of the player leaving though and I think locking up Heyward and Prado makes a lot of sense. I’d be pretty disappointed in Wren if either went through next season without an extension.
George
August 9th, 2012
1:13 pm
Efrim
August 9th, 2012
12:58 pm
13:$3.5M, 14:$6.5M, 15:$9.5M, 16:$11M, 17:$12M, 18:$13M club option ($1M buyout)
Something like that for Jason….
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JASON has been playing very well lately, but offer him that much REALLY? I still think JASON is A .240 lifetime hitter with very good power, a KINGMAN tyoe player.
DAP
August 9th, 2012
1:14 pm
jeff r I’d be leery of signing really long contract with any player these days. Too much exposure in terms of injury or decline… ties up a lot of budget in today’s market.
my reasoning is that there is a perception the braves payroll will remain relatively stagnant in the near future. they dont have alot of money committed. lets lock some core players up to extend our competitiveness as long as possible. heyward might not want an 8 year deal, like efrim is saying. but, i think some cost certainty on some of our best players would be a good idea.
Tomahawkin
August 9th, 2012
1:16 pm
@George
If Heyward gets 20-20 Status…thats gonna look real good to his Agent…1st Since A. Jones…And whwn A. Jones Did it in 1998, the sky was the limit for him back then…
ChattTownBrian
August 9th, 2012
1:19 pm
I’m hoping they do trade Hanson while he will still have plenty of value. Then again teams could look at that delivery and get scared off with injury stuff. Plus the velocity has dropped and the also questions of why ATL is shopping him in the first place could make teams pass up on giving anything real good up for him.
Hoping Wren can squeeze out a top prospect for him this winter though.
TennesseePaul
August 9th, 2012
1:22 pm
I’d be pretty disappointed in Wren if either went through next season without an extension.
The player has to agree. It isn’t necessarily the GM’s fault if these guys aren’t “locked up.”
The team made, reportedly, similar offers at the same time to McCann and Francoeur. One accepted the other didn’t.
ChattTownBrian
August 9th, 2012
1:24 pm
“id sign heyward to a freakin 8 year deal. freeman too”
I would too. Both are future stars, maybe superstars. Can’t really beat either one at their positions.
Efrim
August 9th, 2012
1:25 pm
The player has to agree. It isn’t necessarily the GM’s fault if these guys aren’t “locked up.”
That’s true.
On a somewhat related question, what is the GM’s fault these days? Especially for a cash strapped org. like the Braves. I mean, even the Tex deal for Kotchman and Marek. How do we know McGuirck and JS didn’t force Wren to trade away Tex?
George
August 9th, 2012
1:25 pm
ChattTownBrian
August 9th, 2012
1:19 pm
I would certinly not go to a 6 man rotation to give him starts. We are doing just fine with our current 5 starters. Don’t try to fix something that is not broken.
ChattTownBrian
August 9th, 2012
1:27 pm
George, unfortunately, Hanson will push Medlen back in the pen when he comes back. You know it, and so do I.
Brave New World
August 9th, 2012
1:35 pm
George August 9th, 2012 1:13 pm I sttill think JASON is A .240 lifetime hitter with very good power, a KINGMAN tyoe player.
Kingman? Hey there, Georgie Boy, there’s another Georgie deep inside, take out all the smarts you hide, and oh what a change there’d be, the world would see a new Georgie Boy!
Trader Jack
August 9th, 2012
1:38 pm
Why would Heyward or Freeman sign an 8 yr deal when they becomes free agents in 2016 & 2017 respectively?
Makes no sense
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 9th, 2012
1:43 pm
I wish Meds could stick around for a little longer in the rotation. Wasn’t a big fan of his in the rotation before, but we might need him there a little longer.
DAP
August 9th, 2012
1:44 pm
trader jack Why would Heyward or Freeman sign an 8 yr deal when they becomes free agents in 2016 & 2017 respectively?
why does any player do it? yes, it happens.
Efrim
August 9th, 2012
1:45 pm
Why would Heyward or Freeman sign an 8 yr deal when they becomes free agents in 2016 & 2017 respectively?
I think signing 5 or 6 year deals make sense. Cost certainty and guaranteed dollars. But if I were both, I’d want to become a free agent around 28, 29 or 30. Land one more big deal.
MikeInFl
August 9th, 2012
1:46 pm
Guaranteed money has a lot more current value than “if I play well and I stay healthy” money.
David O'Brien
August 9th, 2012
1:55 pm
Series preview: Braves at Mets
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/08/09/series-preview-braves-at-mets-2/
JoeFan
August 9th, 2012
1:55 pm
Don’t believe Medlen is going anywhere. As long as he is pitching satisfactorily, the Braves will find some reason to keep Hanson on the DL,
TennesseePaul
August 9th, 2012
1:56 pm
what is the GM’s fault these days
As far as a fan can go on, it will be evidenced in the reports. If the deal falls through and it is widely reported that the GM made some comment about the player’s mother… it’s his fault. If the GM/Owner says they need to make a statement and signs Werth to a vastly outline contract, it’s his fault. But, if the two parties negotiate in good faith and can’t come to an agreement, then it is the players fault for being greedy and not thinking of all the Blog commenters feelings.
The Teixeira trade is still Wren’s fault. Even if ownership says make him the most prolific hitter available on the trade market, Wren doesn’t have to insist on a first baseman in return and settle for organizational filler to balance it out.
Trader Jack
August 9th, 2012
1:58 pm
DAP
It’s not often it happens. Why would they pass up the opportunity for FA money, risk injury during that time, not to mention an agent strongly advising against it.
Remember, it’s all about the money
MAD
August 9th, 2012
1:59 pm
wow on the talks of Heyward. Nice ringing double last night to get the big inning going but slow down eh.
Still one of the least feared #3 hitters in the NL as of right now
Efrim
August 9th, 2012
1:59 pm
ESPN Opening Day 2013: NL East
By Jason Martinez MLB Depth Charts
With the July 31 trade deadline now comfortably in our rearview mirror, we can begin looking ahead to 2013.
Over the next two days we will take a look at each team’s projected 2013 Opening Day lineup, with a breakdown of strengths, weaknesses and potential holes to fill. And before you get started, there are a few things to keep in mind.
For starters, we did not attempt to place free agents, as that is almost impossible to predict. Therefore, if a player is set to be a free agent, we replaced him in the lineup with the best internal solution. In some cases, that “solution” will almost certainly not be the Opening Day starter at that position, but that’s the point, as it will further illustrate the biggest areas of concern for each club.
We included 2013 salaries in our projected lineups, and for players who are not eligible for free agency we took our best guess based on service time and the recent history of arbitration awards given to similar players.
When it comes to contract options, we took our best guess. If it’s a good player with a reasonable club option, we kept them in the lineup for 2013. If it’s a good player with a modest player option, we assumed they would opt for free agency.
Teams are listed in order of the current standings. (American League projections coming Friday.)
Projected 2013 Opening Day lineup
LF Martin Prado $6M*
SS Andrelton Simmons $490K*
RF Jason Heyward $3.5M
1B Freddie Freeman $565K
C Brian McCann $12M**
2B Dan Uggla $13.2M*
3B Juan Francisco $500K
CF Jose Constanza $490K
Projected 2013 rotation/bullpen
No. 1 Tim Hudson $9M**
No. 2 Tommy Hanson $4M*
No. 3 Paul Maholm $6.5M**
No. 4 Mike Minor $500K
No. 5 Kris Medlen $1.8M
SU Jonny Venters $2M*
CL Craig Kimbrel $600K*
Atlanta Braves
For the first time in 18 seasons, the Braves will head into a season knowing that Chipper Jones will not be hitting in the middle of their lineup. The 40-year-old will retire with more than 2,700 hits, almost 500 homers, eight All-Star selections, an NL MVP award and a World Series ring. The post-Chipper era looks promising, however, with a trio of 22-year-olds — Jason Heyward, Freddie Freeman and Andrelton Simmons — forming a talented nucleus along with veterans Brian McCann, Martin Prado and Dan Uggla.
The hype has died down considerably on their young pitching prospects, but just because Randall Delgado and Julio Teheran weren’t ready to be really good big league starters at ages 22 and 21, respectively, doesn’t mean you should give up on them as prospects. They’re still very talented and still very young. Assuming the Braves pick up the club options for Tim Hudson and Paul Maholm and allow Kris Medlen to start, the Braves will have the luxury of keeping Delgado and Teheran in Triple-A to start the 2013 season, or possibly use them as trade chips.
Whether Medlen starts or relieves could dictate which direction the team goes this offseason in regard to upgrading its pitching staff. If he starts, the team could pursue a reliever via free agency or trade. If he relieves, they could try and re-sign Ben Sheets, acquire another starter or allow Delgado, Teheran and maybe 2011 first-rounder Sean Gilmartin to battle for a rotation spot.
Holes on the horizon
1. CF
2. 3B
3. RP
Offseason priority
There’s no doubt that re-signing center fielder and leadoff man Michael Bourn will be pricey. But there’s no bigger hole in the organization. They’ll likely have to ante up to fill it. But there will be plenty of competition from several teams in pursuit of Bourn and fellow free-agent center fielders B.J. Upton, Angel Pagan and Shane Victorino. The Braves also have the trade chips to go out and get a guy like Denard Span. Pursuing an upgrade at either third base or left field is also a certainty with Prado playing in the spot they don’t fill.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 9th, 2012
2:00 pm
Dan Uggla is 9-for-26 (.346) with team-high eight RBIs in August. He’s hit .297 with six extra-base hits, 11 RBIs and a .840 OPS in his past 10 games
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 9th, 2012
2:03 pm
3B Juan Francisco $500K
CF Jose Constanza $490K
Big problems there.
No. 1 Tim Hudson $9M**
No. 2 Tommy Hanson $4M*
No. 3 Paul Maholm $6.5M**
No. 4 Mike Minor $500K
No. 5 Kris Medlen $1.8M
Big issues if Huddy and Hanson have to be our 1-2. Rest is okay.
Efrim
August 9th, 2012
2:04 pm
Good read, I thought.
Efrim
August 9th, 2012
2:06 pm
The post-Chipper era looks promising, however, with a trio of 22-year-olds — Jason Heyward, Freddie Freeman and Andrelton Simmons — forming a talented nucleus along with veterans Brian McCann, Martin Prado and Dan Uggla.
That’s something to be happy about heading into the winter. Good position player core with solid, but unspectacular starting pitching. One of the two best closers in the league.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 9th, 2012
2:08 pm
If he (Medlen) relieves, they (Braves) could allow Delgado, Teheran and maybe 2011 first-rounder Sean Gilmartin to battle for a rotation spot.
If Gilmartin were to beat those 2 out…. man, that’d hurt. I’d go trade them that year! (sarcasm)
nolie
August 9th, 2012
2:11 pm
there is no way that Constanza plays next season, that’s just dumb
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 9th, 2012
2:11 pm
unspectacular starting pitching
Indeed. They’ve done a good job this year, but Huddy is only getting older. Hopefully Minor can continue to improve. But still, we need an ace to anchor this rotation. Zack Gr….
nolie
August 9th, 2012
2:12 pm
Zack is not coming to Atlanta, sorry. guy sukks as a supposed ace
Efrim
August 9th, 2012
2:14 pm
there is no way that Constanza plays next season, that’s just dumb
They were really just going off of depth charts and such. Not going to guess that they bring in a CF free agent. That just makes the need for a CF more glaring.
nolie
August 9th, 2012
2:18 pm
it will surprise me if they do bring in a cf free agent
Trader Jack
August 9th, 2012
2:19 pm
nolie
Geez, I guess I should go to Atlanta, since I was labeled an ace by a number of scouts in high school – LOL
Brian from SC
August 9th, 2012
2:20 pm
nolie, that person just made a roster out of players currently under Braves control. I’m sure they would agree with you that Constanza won’t be the Braves’ center fielder next year.
Efrim
August 9th, 2012
2:20 pm
it will surprise me if they do bring in a cf free agent
They could make two trades for a LF and CF. Or just get one big player for one of the CF, LF, SP holes. Then go cheap on the others. That would suck, imo.
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
August 9th, 2012
2:21 pm
Shaun
August 9th, 2012
12:57 pm
The only question for Kimbrel as he reached the majors was whether he would have enough control to be an elite reliever, because his control wasn’t great in the minors. But I’ll say he’s taken care of that.
If you need an out or three in the highest of leverage situations, hard to argue against Kimbrel. There are few guys that are even in the conversation? Seems to me the only others are dominating starters like Verlander, Strasburg or King Felix, if you could have them come in for a short burst, or maybe Aroldis Chapman as the only reliever in that class.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
WHO THE F*** ARE YOU AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH SHAUN???????
Efrim
August 9th, 2012
2:23 pm
2013 SP’s: Hudson, Sheets, Hanson, Minor, Maholm. Medlen in the pen. Teheran, Delgado, Gilmartin, Spruill making up the Triple-A rotation in Gwinnett.
I mean, who really thinks that’s how it will pan out?
raleighbravefan
August 9th, 2012
2:23 pm
McCann took the deal, Frenchy didn’t.
Chipper took the deal, Klesko didn’t.
Seeing a trend here? By the way, Klesko’s agent said “just because Chipper agreed to a bad deal doesn’t mean we have to”. Ryan who??
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
August 9th, 2012
2:23 pm
Constanza, quad A material, end of story.
raleighbravefan
August 9th, 2012
2:24 pm
TOBF – Huddy will be a year older…and no bone spurs…and cheaper.
David O'Brien
August 9th, 2012
2:25 pm
Happy birthday to Jason Heyward, who’s all of 23 years old today.
nolie
August 9th, 2012
2:26 pm
most good young players do NOT sign extensions, getting either Jason or Freddie to do so would be nice but not all that likely. getting them both to do so is really stretching the odds
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
August 9th, 2012
2:28 pm
Francoeur could have been what Heyward already is……….a phenom.
Efrim
August 9th, 2012
2:30 pm
most good young players do NOT sign extensions, getting either Jason or Freddie to do so would be nice but not all that likely.
You’ve always felt this way, however we have seen Upton, McCutchen, Bruce, Adam Jones, Carlos Gonzalez and others sign deals. It’d be a shame if Jason didn’t.
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
August 9th, 2012
2:31 pm
Tim Hudson is 36 and still the backbone of this pitching staff, bone spurs and all….
Efrim
August 9th, 2012
2:31 pm
Francoeur could have been what Heyward already is……….a phenom.
How would Francouer do this? I sure wish I could just snap my fingers to dunk a basketball. However that’s not really how it works.
nolie
August 9th, 2012
2:31 pm
yes we have, and they are all in the large minority of eligible players
Efrim
August 9th, 2012
2:32 pm
Tim Hudson is 36 and still the backbone of this pitching staff, bone spurs and all….
37, actually.
Brian from SC
August 9th, 2012
2:32 pm
Was hoping that the Marlins would jump on Dickey and the Mets again today and further wear out their bullpen. Not happening…Dickey has gone eight innings.
TennesseePaul
August 9th, 2012
2:32 pm
If Chipper plays every game from here on out and averages over 4 PA per game, he’ll have enough PA’s to qualify… Doubt it’ll happen.
monty
August 9th, 2012
2:33 pm
Sign them while they are young and impressionable(team spirit) before they realize they are a commodity.
nolie
August 9th, 2012
2:33 pm
hmmm large minority huh???
they make up a small minority of all eligible players even adding Longoria
Efrim
August 9th, 2012
2:34 pm
yes we have, and they are all in the large minority of eligible players
Reyes did. Wright did. Trying to think of others. I know Lincecum was one of the more popular players to go year to year.
Talking really good young talents here. Expected that a player like Martin Prado is where he is.
nolie
August 9th, 2012
2:35 pm
lets just return to the days b4 free agency…..
MikeInFl
August 9th, 2012
2:35 pm
Well, you gotta wonder how many players are even offered extensions early. Probably cuts the size of the minority down quite a bit.
Arkansas Transplant
August 9th, 2012
2:35 pm
I’d be okay if used Venters as trade bait this offseason, along with EOF. I think we’ve got some pretty good arms that could help fill that void. One or both could bring us a very good return that could include a CF or possibly LF/3rd prospect.
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
August 9th, 2012
2:35 pm
Efrim still believes white men can’t jump.
Efrim
August 9th, 2012
2:36 pm
It seems like pitchers usually don;t come to terms on these deals, and position players do.
Arkansas Transplant
August 9th, 2012
2:37 pm
There will be quite a few options on the market for RP. And with the way EOF and Venters pitches, I’d be willing to bet that a few clubs might view them as possible closer for their club.
MikeInFl
August 9th, 2012
2:38 pm
I’d be okay if used Venters as trade bait this offseason, along with EOF. I think we’ve got some pretty good arms that could help fill that void.
Boy, I’m not sure I agree with that. Bullpen pitches more than a third of all innings. I hate to piece it together with prospects and has-beens.
A good starting pitcher makes $10 mil (easily) for 200 innings. I got no problem paying a couple of guys 3 mil for 50-70 innings.
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
August 9th, 2012
2:39 pm
All I want for Christmas is BILLY HAMILTON
nolie
August 9th, 2012
2:39 pm
you are naming the exceptions to the rule, I never said it does not happen. good luck though I’m all for it if Frank can get it done but it is not as likely to happen as some here make it seem a high odds deal.
I’m too lazt to do the research but I bet for every one who has over the last couple of decades you could come up with 5-10 who did not
TennesseePaul
August 9th, 2012
2:40 pm
If Chipper plays every game from here on out and averages 6 hits a game, he’ll end his career with 3,000 hits. Might be a bit of a stretch, but I’d still like to see him do it. He’d end the season with the highest single season batting average in history… and his career average would jump as well… and he’d be the all time leader in boosting his career average in his age 40 season. He’d end the season with a batting average of .692, a career average of .328 and an age 40 delta of .02359
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
August 9th, 2012
2:41 pm
Trade Venters?
Blasphemy! Begone ye infidels of hades….
nolie
August 9th, 2012
2:41 pm
I would bet that most real good players are approached about it, why would they not be?
Trader Jack
August 9th, 2012
2:42 pm
nolie
August 9th, 2012
2:35 pm
lets just return to the days b4 free agency…
The ghost of Curt Flood would like to talk to you
MikeInFl
August 9th, 2012
2:42 pm
I would bet that most real good players are approached about it
Exactly. The question then is, what percentage of players are “real good?” (rhetorical question… I’m not gonna belabor it)
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
August 9th, 2012
2:43 pm
TennesseePaul
August 9th, 2012
2:40 pm
If Chipper plays every game from here on out and averages 6 hits a game, he’ll end his career with 3,000 hits. Might be a bit of a stretch, but I’d still like to see him do it. He’d end the season with the highest single season batting average in history… and his career average would jump as well… and he’d be the all time leader in boosting his career average in his age 40 season. He’d end the season with a batting average of .692, a career average of .328 and an age 40 delta of .02359
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Somebody call the meat wagon ,Paul fell out of bed and cracked his skull
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 9th, 2012
2:45 pm
All I want for Christmas is BILLY HAMILTON
And Zack… and Myers!
nolie
August 9th, 2012
2:45 pm
how good do you have to be to be worth saving some money on
PDOG
August 9th, 2012
2:48 pm
Like to see the Braves put Huddy on the DL when Hanson is ready. He could use a break and it allows Meds to stay in the rotation. Also would like to see Tehran get called up and put in the pen, if he only has to pitch an inning or two he could air it out. Also believe it would be a good role for him next year to help him gain some much needed confidence. Then back to a starter in 14.
Jeff R
August 9th, 2012
2:48 pm
my reasoning is that there is a perception the braves payroll will remain relatively stagnant in the near future. they dont have alot of money committed. lets lock some core players up to extend our competitiveness as long as possible. heyward might not want an 8 year deal, like efrim is saying. but, i think some cost certainty on some of our best players would be a good idea.
DAP, your 1:14 pm.
Salaries are sky-high these days. To lock-down Heyward to an eight-year deal would be in excess of $100 million (No?). You do that with enough core players, and you might find the Braves stuck like the Phillies with older position players – some with injury histories – that they can’t move.
I think with salary inflation, teams need to be very careful handing out long term deals.
nolie
August 9th, 2012
2:49 pm
well, like I said: here’s hoping the get it done with both, it would sure be nice. Course they coulda just kept ‘em down on the farm a few weeks longer……….
DAP
August 9th, 2012
2:53 pm
teams like the braves dont sign aces. we make them, or we dont have them.
efrim Reyes did. Wright did. Trying to think of others. I
how about troy tulowitski? brian mccann. joe mauer. joey votto. robinson cano. really it happens all the time.
MAD
August 9th, 2012
2:54 pm
PDOG, put Huddy on the DL. You have some inside source saying he is hurting that bad??????
Dunno, maybe just a bad outing yesterday. 4 games out we probably don’t need to put one of our best hurlers on the DL unless absolutely necessary. Just my opinion
Efrim
August 9th, 2012
2:55 pm
how about troy tulowitski? brian mccann. joe mauer. joey votto. robinson cano. really it happens all the time.
There are a lot of elite position players recently, like over the last 5 years, that have come to terms on some sort of extension or at the very least, cost controlled contracts. If Jason doesn’t, that would stink. Prado too, although I expect it to be easier for Martin.
Brian from SC
August 9th, 2012
2:57 pm
Hudson had a 2.74 ERA in his previous 11 starts before yesterday. Let’s at least let him have back-to-back bad games before we talk about DL.
nolie
August 9th, 2012
2:57 pm
if there have been say 200 top younguns come into the game in the last 20 years, how many of them signed such contracts? 25?40?
DAP
August 9th, 2012
2:57 pm
nolie I’m too lazt to do the research but I bet for every one who has over the last couple of decades you could come up with 5-10 who did not
things were pretty different a couple of decades ago. we would have to do, like one decade. and we would also have to have a performance threshold, because of course ryan langerhans didnt sign an extension.
Efrim
August 9th, 2012
2:58 pm
Nick Markakis, Alex Gordon, Jaime Garcia, Ricky Romero, Madison Bumgarner, Ian Kinsler. Sigh…
Obviously some don;t, but free agency has stunk for a while and will the next few years because most are getting extended.
Brian from SC
August 9th, 2012
2:58 pm
Complete game for R.A. Dickey today. Good thing the Mets bullpen is bad, even when they’re rested.
nolie
August 9th, 2012
2:59 pm
what time is the game tonite???………
Brave New World
August 9th, 2012
2:59 pm
Tennessee Paul: If Janish gets 5 AB’s per game and homers in each AB, he’ll finish the year with about 250 home runs, a new record.
Efrim
August 9th, 2012
2:59 pm
if there have been say 200 top younguns come into the game in the last 20 years, how many of them signed such contracts? 25?40?
Yeesh. 20 years? I’m just talking last 5 years, noles. Maybe 10 years. But recently, it’s happening more and more.
Brave New World
August 9th, 2012
3:00 pm
R.A. Dickey pitched today, so we do not face him this weekend. Hoo Ah!
Efrim
August 9th, 2012
3:01 pm
Mets have starting pitching and David Wright. Tejada and Davis aren’t bad either. NL East will be the 2nd best division in baseball once those Astros move to the AL West.
DAP
August 9th, 2012
3:01 pm
jeff r You do that with enough core players, and you might find the Braves stuck like the Phillies with older position players – some with injury histories – that they can’t move.
yeah i hear you. i think its a risky thing that you live and die by, but hoping to live by it is one of the only ways to stay really competitive. if someone gets injured and it bites you, well, you probably werent going to win without them anyways. its just a thought, and im honestly worried that when the current crop of great talent gets to free agency, the braves are going to have to choose one, if any to keep. id rather them have a shot at keeping the core together for a sustained run.
nolie
August 9th, 2012
3:02 pm
I picked 20 years because you mentioned Chipper and he started about 20 years ago
Efrim
August 9th, 2012
3:03 pm
I picked 20 years because you mentioned Chipper and he started about 20 years ago
I mentioned Chipper?