Braves quotes after Tuesday’s loss to Phillies

CHIPPER JONES

On six walks vs. none for Hamels this time:

“Most of these guys it depends on the umpire. A good umpire that’s pretty tight makes these guys work makes our job a little easier at the plate. You get the umpires that are a little more generous, it makes it a little easier on the pitcher. But he had way better command tonight than he did in Atlanta. It’s unfortunate we had a bad first inning. I think Mike struggled all night but he made pitches after the first to get himself out of jams. You give Cole a three-run cushion, he’s awful tough to score on regardless. When you let him get that far out in front of you, it puts a lot of pressure on the offense to try to string things together because he doesn’t give up a lot of homers. And tonight he didn’t give up too many singles either.”

On after first time through lineup, seem like it’ll be one of those nights:

“You sort of had that feeling. We like our chances as an offense if our pitcher can give us a time through the order to kind of see what the guy’s got and keep us in the game, feel like we’re in the game. After the three-spot in the first, it’s a little demoralizing knowing that you’ve got to figure out some way to get on Cole with a bigger than average zone. It just wasn’t in the cards tonight.”

On Hamels minimizing damage every time runner on base:

“It was one of those nights. Guy makes a lot of money for a reason. He’s pretty good.”

On them still having some good players:

“And they have some role players that are swinging the bat pretty good right now, Frandsen, Kratz, those guys they’ve been chipping in along the way and Jimmy is still Jimmy. Jimmy won an MVP. Howard won an MVP. Utley is certainly capable of winning an MVP. They’ve got some players you better respect over there or they’re going to get you.”

MIKE MINOR

On the first inning:

“I didn’t start off too well. I didn’t have my stuff really early on. I pretty much just battled throughout the game, hung a slider to Howard and they got two runs easy right there. Other than that it was a couple base hits, a walk, I was just all over the place.”

On getting past the first inning and keep them close:

“It was definitely nice to limit them to three runs after the first inning. I went seven, helped out the bullpen a little bit. Still gave us a chance to come back.”

On if pitch to Howard out of hand knew it wasn’t good:

“Not really because I felt like last time I faced them, I threw him a lot of sliders and fastballs away, sliders away and it was kind of like he was guessing the whole time. Even if I threw one over the middle of the plate, he either fouled it off or didn’t really get a good read on it, at our place. And obviously he was looking for that one, he stayed back and hit it to the opposite field.”

On if would have changed pitch selection, or just execution:

“No, it was just execution. I thought it had decent movement on it but it was more middle than out.”

On when you can say, well at least I didn’t cave:

“Right now, I can say well I went seven innings, three runs, that’s a pretty good start. And if somebody didn’t watch the game they would say hey, you did pretty well tonight. But obviously if you watched the pitch location, I really didn’t have a whole lot tonight. I just tried to battle and went 2-0 to a lot of guys, leadoff batters were on base it seemed like every inning. I walked two guys but it seemed like I walked a lot more because it seemed like I was behind it seemed like all night. Pitching out of the stretch the whole time.”

On if affected by throwing only 3 2/3 innings in 10 days:

“I felt good physically. I felt like my breaking pitches were good, coming out of my hand. I kept spiking my curveball but slider, I felt like it was OK. It was just my fastball. Fastball was not both sides. I threw some good change-ups tonight, got some swings and misses and some mishit balls, so I kept it down in the zone. It was mostly just fastball location. If I don’t have that from the getgo, it’s kind of a hard night.”

FREDI GONZALEZ

On Minor:

“He was terrific, really. Seven innings, three runs, he gave us a great opportunity to win other than Cole pitching a complete-game shutout. Other than the first inning and a few innings in between there and the seventh, had some people on base, a couple stressful innings, but he gave us an opportunity. You feel real good in this ballpark with our offense that you can score three or two. But Cole was pretty darn good mixing his pitches and throwing fastballs up in the strike zone and he seemed like he almost got better, or stronger as the game went on. Tip your hat to him tonight.”

On the pitch to Howard:

“It was a ball out over the plate and he’s a big boy and we’ve seen him do that before.”

On Hamels:

“He kept getting stronger and stronger, but even when Mikey (Bourn) got on base there with the bunt single, there weren’t very many good swings. Not because we weren’t trying. It was because he was that effective and that darn good tonight.”

On Minor doing just what you want after three-run first:

“Yeah, he stayed out there. And for me a pitcher that gives up three and then battles and stays in the game, it’s a positive outing other than the loss. We’ve seen it before with him and young pitchers where all of a sudden it’s out in the fourth inning with seven or eight runs and we’ve got to go to the bullpen. And he didn’t do that. He kept us in the ballgame gave himself a chance to win the ballgame, hanging around, by the way he pitched. We just couldn’t converted any runs for him tonight.”

61 comments Add your comment

Smackerel

August 7th, 2012
10:49 pm

I like the positive take on Minor’s performance. Coaching staff has done very well maintaining his confidence and getting him the the level he’s at despite the struggles early.

BillEGoat

August 7th, 2012
10:57 pm

Top pitcher throws a great game, really good hitter knocks a 2-run homer, nothing more to say. Moat games, 3 runs in 7 inninns, Minor wins. Not tonight.

Ken Stallings

August 7th, 2012
11:02 pm

Wow! I don’t normally disagree with Chipper’s post-game comments, but frankly I think he’s being way to tough on Minor. Look, while he’s right in a way, the truth is that Minor shut them down through the seventh inning after the three surrendered in the first. That meant the offense needed to just chip away and play for single runs. The approach mentally should not change from if the game was scoreless after one complete. In my view, as professional hitters, they should be mentally able to get back a lead and support their starting pitcher better than engage in “get it all back quick” mode.

Like I said, don’t normally disagree with Chipper and always love his sincerity, but this time I disagree with him.

kevkat

August 7th, 2012
11:02 pm

No Freddie, Minor wasn’t terrific, Hamels was terrific. Minor pitched pretty good after the three soot, tonight that wasn’t good enough.

lee maye

August 7th, 2012
11:06 pm

Too many lefty hitters in the lineup that can’t hit lefties: McCann, Freeman, Bourn, and Heyward. And, Fredi rests a rightie. Go figure. Should have used Uggla or Pastor at 2B and the Cub guy in RF. Lefties are indeed a problem for our Braves.
The kid lefty Avilan had 2/3 inning of excellent relief. He has better stuff against lefties than Minor. Avilan’s ball moves and his curve is sharper. Avilan is a keeper.

Who knows

August 7th, 2012
11:07 pm

Minor sucked for one inning; offense for 9. How about instead of all this demoralizing stuff, the offense takes the situation as a challenge, a chance to step up when the pitcher falters in the first? The pitcher has to own the consequences of his actions, but so must the rest of the team.

Call out the pitcher, but also any others that contributed to this

Oh'man

August 7th, 2012
11:16 pm

What was that all about with Chipper? Mike played phenomenal, it was the offense who was disappointing! Why did he call out Minor like that for?

PaulG

August 7th, 2012
11:17 pm

Hmmmmm…..a few of the aunt blabbys showed up in the previous blog …2 so far…..oh woe is upon them….fire fredi, impale wren, burn minor & heck a few others at the stake……this loss signals the apocalypse is upon us…common blabbys, let’s hear from you!!!,…1-2-3 go

BRAVES LOSE

August 7th, 2012
11:27 pm

Enter your comments here

BRAVES LOSE

August 7th, 2012
11:27 pm

it is what it is

Beach Dawg

August 7th, 2012
11:28 pm

Jones has never been supportative of Minor. Guess Minor does not bow to His Highness enough!!!! “Who Knows” is right the offense failed for 9 innings

Philas fan

August 7th, 2012
11:28 pm

even a blind dog finds a bi..ch in the park once in awhile. relax. it’s tim hudson vs kyle kendrick tomm. game, set, series braves

BRAVES LOSE

August 7th, 2012
11:29 pm

Minor not letting home runs beat him

IN PREVIOUS BLOG

WHAT YOU GOT TO SAY NOW AJC WRITERS?

A 2R HR BEAT HIM TONITE

BRAVES LOSE

August 7th, 2012
11:30 pm

THATA BOY MINOR

I KNEW YOU LOVED THE HR BALL

Phils fan

August 7th, 2012
11:30 pm

damn, i can’t even spell my own name. been that type of season.

BRAVES LOSE

August 7th, 2012
11:32 pm

WHY NOT CHIPPER CALL OUT MINOR?
MINOR SUCKS
WITH A ERA OVER 6.00 U THINK HE IS GOOD?

HIS ERA IS 18.23 1ST 3 INNINGS
BRAVES FANS GET A CLUE,QUIT RIDING THE SHEEP

Largo

August 7th, 2012
11:33 pm

Chipper does not give much where Minor is concerned.

BRAVES LOSE

August 7th, 2012
11:35 pm

HOWARD MORE HRS AGAINST BRAVES THAN ANY OTHER TEAM 38 UNTIL TONITE
HAMELS 0-3 ERA5.09 LAST 3 STARTS PITCHES A SHUTOUT TYPICAL

HIS FIRST SHUTOUT SINCE SEPT.2009

THATS 3 @#$%^YEARS

CARROLL WHY U NOT REPORT THESE THINGS OR WHAT ABOUT YOU DOB????

BRAVES LOSE

August 7th, 2012
11:37 pm

CHIPPER TELLS IT LIKE IT IS UNLIKE SOME OF YOU,AND THE AJC WRITERS WHO ARE RIDING THE SHEEP AND THE KOOL AID

BRAVES LOSE

August 7th, 2012
11:39 pm

WHO ON HERE DID NOT THINK MINOR WAS NOT GOING TO GIVE UP A HR TONIGHT?

THE SAME WHO WANTED HOPE AND CHANGE

HOWS THAT WORKING OUT FOR YA??

nc fan

August 7th, 2012
11:43 pm

chipper got a hit you senile fools
and rev got one also

what did jhey do besides tweet?

THOUGHT SO

chipper is leading the team in ba yet some of u think jhey is mvp

braves lose had it right

sheep followers and kool aid drinkers

Phils fan

August 7th, 2012
11:59 pm

..those dirty nats are at it again

GMAC

August 8th, 2012
12:14 am

BRAVES LOSE

August 7th, 2012
11:37 pm

CHIPPER TELLS IT LIKE IT IS UNLIKE SOME OF YOU,AND THE AJC WRITERS WHO ARE RIDING THE SHEEP AND THE KOOL AID
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i agree

Matt

August 8th, 2012
1:38 am

is it just me or are the rest of you sick and tired of not seeing pastornicky getting a start a short????????? I mean he comes in gets only the 3rd hit off hamels in the 9th, hit’s a pinch hit homer the other night, runs out a bunt base hit the other night for a pinch hit, and there you go he now has more hits than janish, yes janish has a better glove than REV, but still I’ll take the bat anyday right now over the glove, and trust me Rev aint as bad in the field as they lead on!!!!!!!!

Matt

August 8th, 2012
1:38 am

is it just me or are the rest of you sick and tired of not seeing pastornicky getting a start a short????????? I mean he comes in gets only the 3rd hit off hamels in the 9th, hit’s a pinch hit homer the other night, runs out a bunt base hit the other night for a pinch hit, and there you go he now has more hits than janish, yes janish has a better glove than REV, but still I’ll take the bat anyday right now over the glove, and trust me Rev aint as bad in the field as they lead on!!!!!!!!

NorCal Brave

August 8th, 2012
1:45 am

Phils and one of there aces beat us fair and square. We’d won the last 7 from them, a team that owned us not that long ago. Just don’t see anything to complain about here.

It's Just You!

August 8th, 2012
2:06 am

Matt

August 8th, 2012
1:38 am

is it just me or are the rest of you sick and tired of not seeing pastornicky getting a start a short????????? I mean he comes in gets only the 3rd hit off hamels in the 9th, hit’s a pinch hit homer the other night, runs out a bunt base hit the other night for a pinch hit, and there you go he now has more hits than janish, yes janish has a better glove than REV, but still I’ll take the bat anyday right now over the glove, and trust me Rev aint as bad in the field as they lead on!!!!!!!!

Nope it’s just you Matt! No one wants to see how many popcorns Tyler can knock out of the fans hands in the first 10 rows above the dugout, or how many sunflower seed buckets or Gatorade buckets for that matter he can damage in the dugout. Pull him off the bench to pinch hit now and again, but for the love of all that is holy don’t let him in the field!

Livan is Gone

August 8th, 2012
2:19 am

um CHipper, Minor gave up 3 runs, not 7. Ill take 7innings 3er anyday.

NickGranite

August 8th, 2012
6:04 am

Minor was the drunk who walked across the busy six lane highway at night fairly unscathed. Chipper knows exactly what he’s talking about. Minor put them in a hole against an ace and spent the rest of the game dodging bullets with leadoff runners every inning…and as Chipper mentioned, gave Hamels a good lead and more room to play with at the plate. I give Minor credit for getting out of some jams but he was lucky to get out with 3 runs

J-MAN

August 8th, 2012
6:21 am

I’ll give Minor credit for not pressing when he had that awful 1st inning against probably the best left-handed starting pitcher in baseball. Granted we lost but he ate up important innings so our bullpen will be fresh for it. But Hamels is one of those pitchers that can shut down anyone when he is on his game. And tonight just happened to be our night unfortunately. Now we did lose another game to the Nationals but we really need to wins some head to head series against them in order to really make up ground. The Nationals look good now but their pitching staff are gonna soon be headed to their career highs in innings pitched. So lets see if that rotation can make it in their unproven months of August and September.

bruce

August 8th, 2012
6:53 am

how many games in a season?

GaryinBham

August 8th, 2012
7:58 am

Move on. Lost a game. Love Chipper, but we had nine innings to score three runs. Kid kept us in it. Every now and then the offense has to pick it up. I get the point, and against Hamels, especially tough. I think seven innings three runs is a quality start, but it’s not going to get it done against an ace, but Minor is way ahead of where he was.

It’s not the results of any particular game but the wild inconsistency of our team from night to night that is most foreboding regarding the playoffs. And those Cardinals are 2 1/2 back and I don’t like it one bit, even without Albert.

Larry

August 8th, 2012
8:16 am

Should this team fail to catch the Nats or even miss the playoffs, it will be 100% because of the buffoonery of this dimwit manager.

He just doesn’t possess the required intelligence, leadership, and in-game, situational instincts to make a difference in the close games…and close, competitive games in baseball in when a sharp, intuitive manager makes a difference.

jt

August 8th, 2012
8:16 am

I’m with the guy who questioned the integrity of our glorious manager, by sitting two right handed hitters, when most of our lefties could not hit a left handed pitcher if he threw them basketballs.
Great managing job, again, Fredi!!!!

?

August 8th, 2012
8:25 am

MINOR IS A WANNA BE PITCHER. MOST OF THE TIME WHEN HE PITCHES WE LOSE. TAKE THAT FAT FREDDI THE HAVANA BANANA.

BravesfaninWis

August 8th, 2012
8:28 am

They can say all they want, the only thing that matters is that the Braves lost and the Nats won which means the Braves are going backwards and its getting late in the season.

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Dawgdad (The Original)

August 8th, 2012
9:28 am

Chipper would not have said what he did had Hudson given up three in the first. Huddy often struggles in the first, and you don’t hear a pip, just “that’s just Huddy”.

Minor pitched a decent game and should have won, Hamels was just better.

Also, it is amazing and under reported about how much a home plate umpire influences the game. I am often surprised that some pitchers don’t bellyache, because they certainly draw a disadvantage at times. I think some might say, hey can I switch and pitch tomorrow, I’m not feeling good today. Some of these umps are hitters umpires and the pitcher can not get a strike called. Forced to throw the ball down the middle they get lit up, and it is no different from the last time they pitched other than the ump.

BravesFanInBama

August 8th, 2012
10:22 am

Chipper sure isn’t afraid to ALWAYS throw the pitcher under the bus after a loss! Sure, Minor had a bad first inning and then 6 scoreless ones. Maybe the offense could have helped him out just a little. Oh well, on to tonight! Nothing worse than your team getting shutout,

PMC

August 8th, 2012
10:25 am

Minor pitched well enough to win, Hamels pitched like a guy that is getting 144 million dollars to pitch baseballs.

Let's Go

August 8th, 2012
10:38 am

Come on it’s not like the Braves are going to sweep the Phillies everytime they play them. It’s one game, move on and kick butt tonight.

Phils fan

August 8th, 2012
10:43 am

..well at least garrett reid went out on a ‘high’ note. there was some kind of summer rock concert festival in the area that weekend. mr. reid partied hard. some might say that he had his own private ‘def jam.”

Gary

August 8th, 2012
11:01 am

Hitting especially righthanded…….need help the bench is lefty too…if they get in the playoffs….they will really needright hand hitting help…..Minor had a quality start…..

Pops

August 8th, 2012
11:01 am

Fire the Phanatic

JD

August 8th, 2012
11:04 am

Don’t know if anyone already said this, but first inning when Prado dropped the throw from Bourne cost us an out and a baserunner when Howard hit the HR. Could have completely changed the inning and maybe only one run. Would Uggla have made the play?

BrandonLee49

August 8th, 2012
11:13 am

Minor Pitched Excellent ! So he gave up Three Runs, He Mowed Phily down from that point for 7 innings… Where Were the Braves Bats… 5 Total hits… That Doesn’t Win very many Games. Hamels made the Offense look Pathetic, and Jones wants to Diss on Minor, He Better Look-in-the-Mirror if he wants to Blame anybody.

ChipperisGod

August 8th, 2012
11:24 am

Yeah, I love Chipper, but 3 runs is not a big deficit. It shouldn’t be demoralizing, it’s not like Minor was Tommy Hanson out there and gave up 8 or 9 runs.

Sure Hammels is one of the best in the game, but 3 runs isn’t the end of the world. Sure it’s not great or anything, but Minor pitched well enough to win.

Lobosolo

August 8th, 2012
12:17 pm

You tell, ‘em, Linkydink… Must pucker your behind to see Fredi being paid the big bucks as a MAJOR LEAGUE MANAGER, while you’re donig whatever it is you do…. Like Ma used to say. “Life’s not fair!”…. oh, the humanity…

Pops

August 8th, 2012
1:00 pm

I hate bullies. That is what you are Lobosolo

phil

August 8th, 2012
1:02 pm

phil

August 8th, 2012
1:02 pm

Pops, you are 100% correct.

And a doof to boot.

[...] Braves quotes after Tuesday’s loss to Phillies [...]

Pops

August 8th, 2012
1:14 pm

Why am I a doof phil? What did I do to you?

Mark (another one)

August 8th, 2012
1:35 pm

Three runs given to Hamels is the beginning of an uphill climb. He ‘averages’ only allowing three runs in 9 innings. That means in a normal start (less than 9 innings) he usually gives up less than 3. Giving him those three runs in the first inning also gives him the lead to play with and a chance to widen the strike zone early on.

Minor is coming round but he wasn’t up to it last night. That’s how baseball goes. Sometimes your opponents (also professionals) have an outstanding performance and get a win. Phil. has won 45% of their games. With a pitcher, sometimes you lose 1-0 and sometimes you win 7-8. It happens.

Chipper’s statements weren’t throwing Minor under the bus. He simply stated the facts. Minor knows it and accepted responsibility in his comments. The fact is Minor was able to battle effectively even on an off night and gave his team a chance to comeback. The real story of the game was Hamels.

J-MAN

August 8th, 2012
1:36 pm

IMO before Hamels signed with the Phillie for 144 mil. He would have been the best Free Agent to hit the market this offseason. Better than Hamilton, better than Grienke, and better than Bourn. Phillies did the right move resigning him. Left-handed pitchers have always been more valuable and Hamels is the best lefty in baseball right now.

alex

August 8th, 2012
2:16 pm

lobo surfaces from the muck (oh the humanity!) and delivers a LINKYDINK….. Gotta love it.

On another note, went to a giants game last week at att park, a beautiful place to see a game, sitting in the upper deck on the 1st base side is a great place to be even if your watching a relatively boring game.

Hawaiibravefan

August 8th, 2012
2:18 pm

It’s amazing how there’s so much fair weather fans here. One day you love chipper, the next day you all bash on him just because he speaks his honest opinion, which he DESERVED to do, being a future first ballot hall of famer and a leader on this club. All it looks like is Chipper is giving the kid who knows he ‘belongs’ in the MLB a real talk. Lay off him, cuz when he carries the team in other games you guys will be all chipper lovers again.

jim

August 8th, 2012
3:14 pm

People love Chipper for his bat, not necessarily for his mouth.

Felix

August 8th, 2012
3:24 pm

It is becoming clearer that if we don’t make the postseason it will be because of the offense. Too many bad situational hitters. Too many guys are not up to the challenge of facing top notch pitchers. Sometimes they struggle against even average to below average pitchers. A big factor is Uggla’s demise which has created such a big hole.

Lobosolo

August 8th, 2012
5:49 pm

alexis, Linkydink Lah-reeee is in bad need of a box o’ binkies…. help a brudder out, please….

Now let’s see here…. Anonymous whiners come on here and cry aout every loss, disparage “their” team, and name call “their” players and managers…. I do the same to them and I’m a bully…. makes sense, coming from the blubberers, I guess…. Classic example of a whiner…. can dish it but cannot take it…. yeah, makes plenty of sense….

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September 24th, 2013
11:22 am

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