Frank Wren quotes on trade; Braves postgame quotes

FRANK WREN

On satisfying multiple needs:

“We were looking for a quality starter that could give us the kind of production that we needed up and down the rotation. What we’ve got from Ben Sheets has been tremendous and now adding a guy like Paul Maholm who’s been so consistent. Really after the first two starts of the season he’s 9-4 with a 3.04 (ERA). He’s done very well, not just a short time span, really since the middle of April. And having control of him for next year as well, with a club option, and then getting really the No. 1 guy on our board as a utility player/pinch hitter. He does all those things really at the top of the league. And to be able to play center and left and he’s hitting over .400 as a pinch hitter which we sorely need and he gives us a chance to rest Michael Bourn, gives us a chance to rest Martin Prado. He’s still going to produce and play good defense.”

On if wanted Reed last year too:

“We did. He’s been a guy that’s been on our list for a while and when we tried to acquire him in August last year or late July and early August, they didn’t want to part with him at that point. He was too important for giving him quality at-bats and performing well for them.”

On giving up Chapman and Vizcaino:

“Arodys is coming back from Tommy John surgery, obviously has a real good arm. We see him, he’s a guy that’s got a chance to be a power reliever. And we just felt like where our club is and the way we’re playing, I think one of the things that really pushed us in the way we’ve played over the last three or four weeks. We’ve started playing like we feel like we’re capable.”

On seeing versatility in Johnson:

“He gives you a quality at-bat. He gives you an excellent at-bat. He plays the game the right way. It’s hard to find guys, especially right-handed hitters, that can play center field, play left as well. With our club that’s so important. We need another right-handed hitter that we’ll feel comfortable putting out there and getting a number of at-bats.”

On difference your scouts have seen in Maholm this year and last:

“The thing that kept coming back is he doesn’t give in. He’s not going to throw you a fastball just because he’s behind in the count. He’s not going to throw you a fastball in fastball counts. He’s going to pitch his game. And he’s going to pitch his game and has been very good at it. When you think of Braves pitchers in the past – a Tommy Glavine – he was not going to give in. if it meant walking you with his pitch, he’s going to walk you. But he’s going to continue to pitch his game. He’s really done a solid job. We did a lot of research and watched a lot of video and he’s been very impressive.”

On fulfilling these needs and not give up Delgado, Teheran, Minor:

“It was important for us. Obviously Arodys is a good-looking young pitcher. We gave up a quality prospect but to not give up some of the guys that have been mentioned, that was a plus for us. And the Cubs are in a different spot than we’re in. They’re looking for a long range young pitcher that they can have him hold onto for a long time and we’re in a spot where we have the kind of team that can win. We wanted to put ourselves in as good a spot as possible to win the division, not just to get in the playoffs.”

On if anticipates this being it:

“No. We have other discussions. We have other conversations going on so I think it’s going to be very busy right up until 4 o’clock tomorrow.”

On if said July 1st you could have gotten this deal done would you have been happy:

“It’s like a lot of things, if you have the opportunity to get a quality left-handed starting pitcher any time, you’re excited about that and then to get the guy that’s at the top of your list for guys to come off the bench and be able to defend. There are guys that can come off the bench and hit but to be able to get the guy that does all of those things is a grand slam for us.”

On when players will be here:

“Maholm is getting his family all settled and he really doesn’t need to be here tomorrow. I don’t think he’s going to be able to report until Wednesday. His wife and child are getting squared away in Chicago. And I think Reed Johnson is going to get on the plane tomorrow and be here tomorrow night.”

On what Greinke commanded, and supposedly Shields, the price of pitching, to get this for these two pieces:

“It was a perfect fit for us. Let’s just put it that way. It was a perfect fit. We got two real key pieces for us that we were looking for. If we are done, if nothing else materializes tomorrow, we’ll be very happy with where we are right now and think our club is positioned well. And obviously we’ll keep watching once we get into the waiver period, but feel like it positions us well.”

On if consider Maholm a potential No. 1-3 starter if make playoffs:

“I don’t want to put anything on him right now. Let’s let him get here and pitch, but he’s pitched very well. We’re excited to have him in the rotation.”

On if Medlen will make one start:

“He’ll start tomorrow and we’ll re-evaluate and see where we go. The thing about Medlen, he really has been a valuable guy and as we’ve contemplated the start the last four days, we’ve been in situations where he would have been very valuable in the games. So it was pretty obvious that we missed him. But I’ll let Fredi and Roger and they’ll figure out exactly how we’ll configure going forward. It’s a possibility it’s just one start.”

FREDI GONZALEZ

On the Monday losing streak being over:

“It took 12 games to figure out it was just the socks? No it wasn’t me. I don’t even know who it was, but whoever came up with it took a little bit too long to hang onto this thing. Swung the bats well, and bullpen did a nice job. Heyward, Freeman and Danny Uggla there with the big two-run double to get us going. Cristhian Martinez again. He sits out there and all of a sudden, you use him and he does a terrific job. He gave us those two innings there and we were able to add on and bring in the young kid there. You don’t want to use anybody else in this situation if you don’t have to. We got Durbin up a couple times. Overall good win.”

On big hit for Uggla for second day in a row:

“That’s good. That’s what we want to see. Good for him, and he’s staying positive. He even hit the ball hard a couple times. I thought today with him when he got jammed, I’m thinking you know what? That’s a good sign. I think Buerhle got him on a cutter in and he got in on him a little bit and that’s a good sign. It means he’s staying on the ball. Good hitters get jammed. Hopefully that’ll get him going. Because you get him going in the seventh hole that lineup is pretty dangerous.”

On Hanson working out of jam after jam:

“That was one of the decisions there after the fifth. When his spot came up in the fifth inning we had a chance to add on there and it was a high pitch count and struggled to get through some innings and we took a shot at it and Francisco came up with a big two-run single.”

On if this stretch is different than Hanson’s should problems after break last year:

“I think maybe going down the line if we get a chance maybe bump him a little bit and use the off day. We don’t have one in the near future, but maybe that’s what he needs – just to give him a little breather. Or when we came out of the Miami series (last week) if we put him back in the normal rotation maybe we could have just given him an extra day there but we couldn’t afford to with the other situation so. Maybe looking on the horizon hopefully gets through this rotation one time or two times, then the off day, give everybody a breather.”

On if he’s looking tired to you, velocity:

“No, velocity is OK. The breaking ball is OK, but he’s just not as sharp as we’ve seen him before. But he didn’t give in in a couple situations there. Prado and McCann made a hell of a play to get him out of the jam there, to get Reyes at the plate. I’m yelling, Rossy and I are yelling 2, 2, 2, on that ball. We don’t think we’ve got a chance at the plate. What a hell of a throw he made at a good time with Mac. Got him out of the inning, got him a chance to get the win, his 12th win, and we go onto tomorrow with Med.”

On if will toss and turn tonight:

“You can’t worry about that kind of stuff. I’ll get up and business as usual and see if there is a present underneath the tree tomorrow at 4 p.m.”

TOMMY HANSON

On the game:

“It was tight early, then we broke it open late. It was a good win, finally got us a win on Monday. I didn’t really know until I was walking out.They said don’t worry about it.

On the Monday curse, and being the only one not to wear socks up:

“I think we just kind of made light of it (the curse). I didn’t really know until I was walking out, so they told me don’t worry about it. My pants are all stretched out at the bottom anyway so.”

On working out of these innings or if would like some clean ones:

“I’d love some more clean ones. It’s been a battle lately but hopefully, I felt a lot better with my fastball command today so hopefully I can just keep moving forward and keep getting better.”

On Prado’s throw to the plate:

“It was great, perfect throw right on the money and it was kind of a similar play to the last time I faced the Marlins. Bang, bang play, Mac picked it good and put a good tag on it and it was great.”

On winning streak:

“It’s been great. We’ve been playing really good and putting some runs up. it was nice to get this Monday win today and hopefully we can keep going forward it. for whatever reason we just kept losing on Mondays. We’ve still got to go out there and play and we played really well tonight.”

On the pants:

“They told me don’t worry about it. The last thing I want to do is to be worrying about my pants when I’m trying not to walk seven guys.”

CHIPPER JONES

On Fredi wondering why you didn’t think of it 12 Mondays ago:

“Like I said I only heard about it last Monday so, I figured if it was brought to everyone’s attention, we’d play a little harder. Didn’t work last Monday but it’s my job to kind of change things up around here when they’re not going good and the socks worked.”

On if it was the socks or the twitter:

“I think it was eight runs and 13 hits. For whatever reason we leave the bats at home on Mondays and I think everybody was a little tired of hearing about it so we played well tonight.”

On the quality of at-bats, forcing walks vs. Hamels and Buehrle:

“I think so. I think you’re seeing some guys feel pretty comfortable at the plate. It starts at the top Bourny and Prado have been leading the way all year and JHey is starting to swing the bat good. Even got a big knock from Uggla tonight so hopefully that’ll kind of get him kick-started. He needed that probably worse than anybody so it was up and down the lineup. I think everybody chipped in at one point or another tonight so good team win.”

On the throw from Prado:

“I didn’t think he had a snowball’s chance in hell to throw that guy out, but he never quit on the play and made a throw right on the money. Mac, great deek at home plate. And a great pick and put the tag down. So that was a momentum-shifter. That ties the game and who knows might get Tommy out of the game at that point. Kept us on top and we were able to chip away and finally put it away.”

On not gaining ground on Nationals since they’ve been winning so much:

“I’m not thinking about it in the least. All I’m thinking about is going out and winning games. We’ve got a little streak going here, like I said last night I feel like this is a homestand where we can really put some pressure on first place and but the bottom line is keep winning and the playoffs will take care of itself one way or the other.”

- Compiled by David O’Brien and Carroll Rogers

122 comments Add your comment

Blog comments are retarded

July 31st, 2012
12:44 am

Preciate the late night DOB and CR!

Blog comments are retarded

July 31st, 2012
12:44 am

Preciate the late night DOB and CR!

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 31st, 2012
12:47 am

Thanks for your hard work DOB… been a long night for ya. Get some sleep bud, I’ll keep track for ya!

Grandma Giffin

July 31st, 2012
12:47 am

Maholm gonna take over Hanson’s next start?

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David from Athens, AL

July 31st, 2012
12:53 am

Yes, thanks DOB and CR

the truth...

July 31st, 2012
12:53 am

Ditto DOB and Carole…..you two rock tonight !!!!

and DOB….thanks for NO RENTALS

BraveDan

July 31st, 2012
12:54 am

Freddie Freeman

July 31st, 2012
12:54 am

Indeed. Thanks guys!

Braves1995

July 31st, 2012
12:55 am

I second Grandma!! We should let Medlen keep his spot and getting mediocre Hanson out of there. The Marlins stink but a better team would have had 5-6 runs off him tonight. Hanson can’t be allowed to be in playoff rotation.

Darryl Blackberry

July 31st, 2012
12:55 am

Interesting…so there’s still a chance Medlen stays in the rotation? Mike Minor had better keep up the good work, or else! ; )

Darryl Blackberry

July 31st, 2012
12:58 am

I disagree with the Hanson haters. While I don’t think he’s postseason material, he does have a certain *something* to his pitches that makes otherwise good hitters swing through 89-mph fastballs. A solid number four or five type of starter, for sure.

As for Medlen, well, we don’t yet know how he’ll fare in the fourth, five, sixth innings of his start. For all we know, he might wilt (though I doubt it). Let’s allow this week to play out, then see who’s got the hot hand…

Ralph

July 31st, 2012
1:01 am

Goodbye Matty Diaz and JJ, thanks for everything.

Ralph

July 31st, 2012
1:06 am

I hope Meds pitches a NO-NO tomorrow, that would put a kink in everyones well laid plans wouldn’t it.

TNtommyjack

July 31st, 2012
1:13 am

BB is a cruel game. Just ask Jack Wilson.

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bulldogbubba

July 31st, 2012
1:34 am

Say NO to Jack Wilson.

chris

July 31st, 2012
1:36 am

dodgers just got brandon league from mariners so that tells me their window on Dempster just got very very narrow….leaves him with no options except braves who he spurned last week….interesting…hell if Cubs are offering Soriano bring him here we’ll find a place for him.

NorCal Brave

July 31st, 2012
1:37 am

Love the new guys from the Cubs. If Venters steadies himself, the ‘pen will be solid. A shame JJ not able to regain dominance he had first half of 2011. Hopefully these moves light a fire under Uggla.

Yogi Berra

July 31st, 2012
1:39 am

Great job DOB, Wren and Braves..now I’ll enjoy my nap. Got to be up at 6 its election day. Go Vote everyone.

Yogi Berra

July 31st, 2012
1:42 am

Braves still talking to Rays and Fish..per MLB.

Rowsdower

July 31st, 2012
1:44 am

Let’s shelve the playoff talk for now. This is a team that blew a 10.5 game lead last year. These guys need to stay focused. Medlen is going to be valuable however he is used. Minor is on a roll. Maholm is a roll. The team is on a roll. Save the playoff talk for October…

Yogi Berra

July 31st, 2012
1:44 am

MLB said Braves also got cash consideration too.

Chief Knock-a-homa

July 31st, 2012
2:19 am

All you Leo Mazzones need to STFU and let Fredi and Roger manage our pitchers…..stop with the let Hanson skip a start or keep Medlen in the rotation. Good Lord, enough already!!

BravesFanInNashville

July 31st, 2012
2:24 am

So we just traded for a pitcher that is 17 games under .500 for his career and Frank Wren is excited? He has a fastball that tops out at 87 and he’s given up 12 home runs this year in 20 starts and has a lifetime era of 4.30 in the National League. That era would be scary even if he pitched in the AL East but he’s been in the NL Central where he’s pitched against the Astros, Brewers and Pirates (until this year they were a terrible team) and the pitchers spot at least twice a game. This does not exactly make me feel like we’re a stronger team. I do like Reed Johnson though and think he’ll be a spark off the bench and as a spot starter. I think Kris Medlen is a much better choice to start and I know if Kris were stretched out to pitch 100+ pitches I’d much rather have him pitch a playoff game than Maholm. Med’s is a gamer. I hope we’re just going to flip Maholm to another team tomorrow and that’s why he’s still in Chicago.

Eddie Cook

July 31st, 2012
2:31 am

DOB, I also want to thank you for the late night and the good work. On the other blog, I asked about the potential of signing Peter Moylan. I just got caught up on my blog reading and realize now he is back in the fold, in the minors doing rehab work. That is good news indeed.

What I (and I would guess the rest of your readers) might be interested in hearing from you are:

1) Do you think the Braves are done making moves before the trade deadline today, or do you think they will add another piece or two? I understand that you among many have postulated that they may try to add another relief pitcher? What I’m asking is do you think they will make another move today?

AND

2) What do you think of the trade they made tonight? In your mind was it a good deal? And what if anything else do you think they need to add to their roster (either before the trade deadline today or acquiring someone who clears waivers after today and before August 31 when a player has to be under your control to included on a potential postseason roster)?

Thanks.

Eddie

Eddie Cook

July 31st, 2012
2:35 am

And thanks to Carroll as well.

braveschipper

July 31st, 2012
2:47 am

Why are you guys hating on this trade for? Everything Wren does you guys complain! Of course we can;t get an ACE, but why do we need one? We have Sheets and Hudson, they both are aces! We need a 5th starter which is why we picked up Malholm! Hanson needs to sit and let Medlen take over! This is a good trade, we already picked up an ace with Sheets! So chill guys!

TexasRose

July 31st, 2012
3:03 am

In the photo accompanying tonight’s game coverage, who is the guy just to the left of Jason Heyward who is jumping so high in the air?

Columbus

July 31st, 2012
3:15 am

Some of you guys are hilarious! “Cant let hanson be in the playoff rotation” ROFL. Does this generation have no clue of reality or patience?! The playoffs start in over 2 months…Come the end of September Hanson might be the best picture on the roster. He might get a little rest or make a small adjustment and be sharp as a razor but you already decided he cannot be a starter in the playoffs?! ROFL. Have you EVER played this game? Your baseball IQ is low I know that much. Hanson might be throwing darts come the playoffs. He might be throwing shutouts and giving up less than 5 hits every start and walking nobody. He might suck but he might be the best and hottest pitcher on the staff! Man, a guy ahs a couple starts where he walks a few guys and you are ready to get rid of him! You better be thankful you have Hanson because if not for him and Huddy, things would not be where they are. You jokers kill me with your rush to judgements,

You the same guys hatin on Chipper the last 4 years? Hes only hitting 370 or so his last 29 games, leading the team in most offensive categories except homers. Only the best hotter on the team. Pitchers FEAR him and he is a switch hitter with power from both sides and plays a great 3B. You the same guys who were yelling to get rid of Hudson early last season too?! Did you decide early last May that Huddy couldnt pitch in the playoffs too? He ONLY became the ace of the staff and carried the staff most the season…pitched AWESOME after a slow start. Hanson just needs to make an adjustment and get some extra rest and just like Freddi said, they all hopefully can get some rest. Its a long season. Can you imagine playing 162 games virtually every day? Takes a lot. You get little injuries you have to play through. Your body changes and you develop some bad habits on the mound and at the plate that you have to figure out and make adjustments. LONG season. Hanson will be fine. He made some adjustments not long ago and might have went too far with them and needs to find his happy place maybe. He might just might be tired. Look at his history of innings pitched and that is VERY likely bout now….Freddi is sharp and will have the staff ready for the playoffs. Hanson will be ready too. Personally I think Hanson is the type of pitcher that will be a great playoff pitcher. You know some players just rise up to the occasion in the playoffs. MANY average players become great in the post-season and I think Hanson is that type. I hope so. I think Minor is too. I know Prado is. Dont know about Maholm or Sheets. I think Medlin would be. Hanson, Medlin and Minor have no postseason experience so we dont know until they get their shots and hopefully they will be rested when they do….

Go Braves!

Darryl Blackberry

July 31st, 2012
4:53 am

BFIN:

I guess the time difference between Nashville and Chicago allows folks in Tennessee to see into the future, eh?

Can Of Corn

July 31st, 2012
6:06 am

WREN TAKEN AGAIN

You got taken again Frank!

Before the season started Baseball America ranked Vizcaino as the 40th-best prospect in baseball. You grossly overpaid by trading away one of our top pitching prospects plus another pitching prospect — for two journeyman players.

I’ve totally lost confidence in you Frank, as the Braves GM.

Here’s hoping that both you and Fredi are out the door at season’s end!

Ernest

July 31st, 2012
6:17 am

It’s good to hear that other conversations are going on. It let’s us know that the Braves are still looking to improve the club. Let’s see what happens by 4:00 pm today then make an evaluation of the moves. Regardless, this move does help the team.

GaryinBham

July 31st, 2012
6:34 am

Solid trade. Yeah, Arodis will probably make us pay in the future, but this is a good trade for now. With pitching, effectiveness is the bottom line. We used to have a couple guys who threw a lot of 87-89 mph fastballs named Glavine and Maddox. We need to get over the radar. 12 walks with a 95 fastball is no help.

These guys fit. A baseball team is not like a fantasy team sitting at home with nothing but stats to go by. Ask the Miami Marlins.

RTS

July 31st, 2012
6:34 am

How in the world is Hanson’s velocity OK Fredi…….it tops out at about 87-89. What happened to the mid 90’s FB????? Also, his control is horrible. I cant stand to watch him pitch. I beleive he has been lucky the last two games he has pitched.

kmarshall 4

July 31st, 2012
6:40 am

that same pitcher you speak of has missed parts of two seasons with arm injuries there can of corn good deal for a good team lets get out and support them go bravos!!!!!!

David O'Brien

July 31st, 2012
7:11 am

DOB, I also want to thank you for the late night and the good work. — Eddie Cook

Thank YOU — all of you — for staying up with us.

BravesfaninWis

July 31st, 2012
7:35 am

Not the trade for a frontline starter I had in mind. I may be wrong on this, but didn’t Maholm get sent to the minors this year because he was struggling so bad early on in the season?

His overall record is good to this point so I will keep a open mind on this trade. Just thought when you were looking at a Dempster, Greinke, Shields, and the like that the Braves have actually “settled” for a #3 pitcher instead of landing a #1 pitcher. When you are chasing a team in your own division that has one of the best pitching staffs in baseball and a very potent offense, I am just not convinced that Maholm is the answer to counter the Nats. I love the Reed Johnson move however, very versatile player that will be nice to have the rest of this year.

robdawg08

July 31st, 2012
7:44 am

Now trade Jair jurggens for a power hitting LF prospect. I think they got Reed Johnson as a possible CF replacement if Bourn doesn’t resign. Good work reporting DOB.

OTP

July 31st, 2012
7:48 am

…but they did gain on the Nationals.

SpideyMatt

July 31st, 2012
8:01 am

What a phenomenal throw by Martin! Man I got so fired up when he made that play… Let’s keep it rolling, Bravos. Go get ‘em tonight, Medlen.

Thanks for the coverage, DOB and Carroll.

GO BRAVES!!!

BUGGSY

July 31st, 2012
8:02 am

Damn good TRADE….I know Arodis was a good upan coming pitcher but after having TJ surgery there is no way to tell if he will every be the same pitcher..I dont think the BRAVES are done!Also just let Chipper take over this TEAM an run it(he’s been doin lately anyway)…Im so pumped about my BRAVES right now..

ijudgenot

July 31st, 2012
8:11 am

Those who have concerns about Hanson, add me to the list. His throwing motion is what keeps orthopedic surgeons in business. Mark Pryor and Kerry Wood had almost the identical motion when they came up. Both were great for a year and a half then both had to have arm surgery. Woods changed his delivery and revived his career as a relief pitcher and Pryor is in the history books. Hanson like JJ does not have the control to be able to get away with an 88mph fastball. He is getting only to the 5th inning because he throws so many off speed pitches that miss the plate therefore a high number of 3-2 counts. Medlen was a better pitcher when they first came up but Hanson was a higher draft pick so he got the headlines. If Medlen’s arm can handle 100 pitches then Hanson should be the piece offered in a trade for someone like Shields or Johnson. They could even throw in JJ for a quality reliever.

Sammy

July 31st, 2012
8:17 am

Coluimbus wants to see Hanson in the playoffs?? He says he knows baseball and we don’t. Must be a relative. LOL!!!

BravesFan

July 31st, 2012
8:41 am

Good trade by Wren. All the haters are idiots. Given the starting pitching depth the braves had, Vizcaino was headed toward being a career bullpen guy. And the injury problems? A++ trade. We didnt need a #1 starter. Maholm is solid in his later years of his career, and has been a good innings eater. and a LEFTY!

Bravofan

July 31st, 2012
8:42 am

I am a big of medlen like a lot of others. However he may be better suited for throwing 50 pitches than 90 to 100. Don’t want to hurt him. We need a quality 3 inning guy out of the bullpen. Also sheets has been fantastic but to assume he will not have any arm problems is a stretch. Sound like a good trade. Needed another right handed bat as well.

robdawg08

July 31st, 2012
8:42 am

Rumors abound that Boston wants to trade Josh Beckett. What about Malholm,Delgado,Pastornicky for Beckett ?

BravesFan

July 31st, 2012
8:47 am

Beckett is on his down slide. he doesnt have it anymore. and his contract is huge and out of range if we want to try and keep Bourn and resign Mccann to an extension

Amber Girl

July 31st, 2012
9:02 am

Mr BravesFan Miss ignoramus wants to know if this is a good trade and do you think there will be more?

robdawg08

July 31st, 2012
9:05 am

Jeff Passan via Yahoo Sports on Janish-Redmond trade :

ANALYSIS: The Braves needed a shortstop with Andrelton Simmons out for more than a month and Tyler Pastornicky banished to Doghouse Island. The Reds wanted pitching depth because you can’t have enough. Voila: Contenders helping each other out. Janish has been his typical soft-hitting, good-glove self, while Redmond is back at Triple-A, his glass ready to break in case of emergency.

Red Schoendienst

July 31st, 2012
9:10 am

So what has happened to Livan?

BlueMoon

July 31st, 2012
9:10 am

The problem is the Bravos still have no 1-2 punch to match up with anyone in the playoffs. Hanson is throwing in the mid 80’s???? I don’t get that. He was 85-88 most of the game yesterday and it just baffled me that someone that came up throwing 95 could fall this far this fast in velocity.

I just don’t see the pitching to hold up against Strasburg and Gio…the Braves need a true number 1 and until they get one they are going to get stalled in the playoffs.

PMC

July 31st, 2012
9:31 am

I love the trade. Wren did a good job giving the team a better chance to win in the post season. Reed Johnson gives them sorely needed outfield help and Maholm provides a major league ready pitcher in the starting rotation they needed.

You have to give something to get something. Vizcaino happended to be that piece.

This Braves staff has been shaky this year, but on a given night they can matchup fine with just about anyone in the league. The starters just haven’t been on much this year.

There was no freaking way it was worth it to trade for a #1 starter in this market.

Wren stuck to his overall model and it should help for this season and going forward.

PMC

July 31st, 2012
9:33 am

Now we just need some prayers sent up for Andrelton Simmons and Dan Uggla.

Amber Girl

July 31st, 2012
9:34 am

Thank you Mr PMC. Is Wren done?

PMC

July 31st, 2012
9:37 am

I would think this is probably it, unless something changes and or someone gets desperate.

bring back blauser

July 31st, 2012
9:41 am

i really think braves fans will be thanking fw for pulling this deal. i have been following cubbies all season too. it has been my opinion that the 2 best pitchers in their rotation this year have been maholm and samardzja. great trade fw. maholm and reid johnson are the players that i had hoped we would get from the beginning of the firesales braves made out like bandits and i think maholm is a lot better than his record indicates. he now has something he has never had, some defense behind him

BravesFan

July 31st, 2012
9:49 am

Amber Girl – Wren is certainly not done looking, but it takes two to tango. I see them picking up a decent reliever to add some depth. not anyone huge, not a house hold name, so dont expect to get blown away.

Supes

July 31st, 2012
9:53 am

Thanks to DOB for the coverage, best in the bizz as usual.

Those who are worried that Vizcaino will make us “pay” later…he could still turn into a very good set up man, or potentially closer down the road so yes it’s possible.

Folks, if you think Hanson will be here long term, you will be disappointed. We’ve got Delgado and Teheran (without spots in the rotation OPEN), Medlen (waiting) and now we acquired a solid 4 or 5 starter in this deal. There is simply not going to be room for a Scott Boras client who frankly isn’t that much better than the other IN HOUSE options, therefore he’ll either be dealt or simply not resigned when the time comes. His velocity has been declining his coming into the majors and he’s not able to put hitters away (like he should). On top of that don’t forget about Brandon Beachy who is out right now…you gotta make ROOM for him in the rotation as well.

So Hanson – Not a long term Brave (will command more $ than he’s worth it).

and for the last time…it’s Medlen not Medlin….Kris now has the distinction of most misspelled Braves Player on the blogs (since Jordan is now an Astro)

PMC

July 31st, 2012
9:58 am

Still happier to have Delgado than Ryan Dempster.

Jordan H.

July 31st, 2012
10:00 am

Abnerish

July 31st, 2012
10:02 am

Wren was a bit harsh toward Chapman, don’t you think? Trading him was “no big deal”?!?! Man, that’s COLD! I guess that quote will be pinned up in Jaye’s locker from now on…

Amber Girl

July 31st, 2012
10:08 am

Thank you Mr Bravesfan All I have heard is Betancourt or Davis. I don’t know? just curious. I hope this works. I think mr Maholm will go in the spot where Mr Medlen is now.and Mr Medlen will go back to bullpen. Do you agree? Also I think Mr Jurrjens back to minors.

jim

July 31st, 2012
10:10 am

The all alumni team (must be original Braves)

SS Rafael Furcal
LF Gregor Blanco
2B Kelly Johnson
C Jarod Saltalamachia
1B Adam Laroche
CF Jordan Schafer
RF Jeff Francouer
3B Wilson Betemit
P Matt Harrison

Bench
Elvis Andrus
Yunel Escobar
Andruw Jones
Flowers

Pitchers
Scott Diamond
Kevin Millwood
Jason Marquis
Charlie Morton

Relief Pitchers
Matt Belisle
Neftali Feliz

bring back blauser

July 31st, 2012
10:15 am

you forgot adam wainwright

David O'Brien

July 31st, 2012
10:30 am

Maholm — pronounced Muh-hollum – will be under contract on a $6.5 mill club option in 2013

JC Boscan III

July 31st, 2012
10:35 am

and Pirates’ 1B Garrett Jones…..ex-Brave draft pick & minor leaguer.

Ken Stallings

July 31st, 2012
10:39 am

Hey Jim,

You do realize that a number of those names on your list are playing at substantially below the level of the current Brave in said position. Andruw Jones is a shadow of his former self. You think any of the first basemen on that list are better than Freddie Freeman? Gregor Blanco better than Martin Prado? I would even submit that Andrellton Simmons is a better shortstop than either Rafael Furcal or Yunel Escobar today.

Every team in baseball can put together a long list of former players playing elsewhere. That’s the nature of the game.

bring back blauser

July 31st, 2012
10:42 am

i totally agree with ken stallings

Ken Stallings

July 31st, 2012
10:42 am

Hanson is not going to be starting next season.

The real question for next season is where does Ben Sheets wind up? His performance is a resurgence and there’s going to be a lot of interest in him.

Malholm will likely start next year in the four or five hole and perform well. Beachy will be struggling early next season but will hopefully be like Hudson and slot in well. Medlin, Hudson, Minor, and Delgado will all be ready to start. The Braves are one of the precious few teams with tough choices to make about who starts for them. Most teams have their toughest choice as trying to find five quality starters!

Braves fan always

July 31st, 2012
10:46 am

you left out andruw jonesshort memory huh and david justice

bring back blauser

July 31st, 2012
10:47 am

justice is retired

Braves fan always

July 31st, 2012
10:55 am

escobar is a ss with toronto,not on the bench

bring back blauser

July 31st, 2012
11:01 am

i bet bobby cox could tell you where escobar and francoeur are

RTS

July 31st, 2012
11:14 am

Dave,
Do you think internally that the Braves are concerned about Hanson’s lack of velocity and control? I know Fredi said his velocity was fine (I dont know how 87-89 is fine) but maybe deep down the Braves are concerned about it.

jim

July 31st, 2012
11:15 am

Sorry, forgot Wainwright and didn’t realize Jones was an original Brave.
Put Wainwright in the rotation and Morton in the pen in long relief. Add Jones to the bench.
I agree the current roster is better at every position with the possible exception of SS and 2B — SS will be better very soon — one of the other infielders (Johnson, Andrus, Furcal) would be an upgrade at 2B – particularly Furcal because he is a switch hitter.
The rotation could use Harrison and a healthy Wainwright and the pen could use a healthy Feliz as a set up, but just made up the list for fun. Wren did not give up Harrison, Feliz, Andrus, and Wainwright or let Furcal, Laroche, and Andruw walk. The players Wren traded or did not resign were Blanco, Diamond, Johnson, (2nd coming of Laroche), Escobar, Flowers, Morton and Schafer — add Paul Clemns, Hoover, and Arodys in the future. Players taking their place (not directly) are Ross, EOF, Martinez Uggla, Bourn, Mahom, R. Johnson, Francisco and from the system Kimbrel, Heyward, Freeman, Simmons, Beachy, Minor, Medlen, Hanson, Venters, Delgado — What the list says is that Wren has not done a bad job making changes in the team.

JPopNC

July 31st, 2012
11:33 am

Speaking of Jack Wilson, saw him play for the G-Braves this past Sunday. Went 0-4 with only one of those outs getting out of the infield. Two infield outs were squibbers. Say a big “NO” to Jack Wilson. He was the DH so didn’t get to see his fielding.

JPopNC

July 31st, 2012
11:33 am

Speaking of Jack Wilson, saw him play for the G-Braves this past Sunday. Went 0-4 with only one of those outs getting out of the infield. Two infield outs were squibbers. Say a big “NO” to Jack Wilson. He was the DH so didn’t get to see his fielding.

Jaded

July 31st, 2012
11:33 am

The funny thing is, Maholm’s career ERA is a nosehair better than Dempster’s (4.30 to 4.31).

I rate this as an OK trade. It looks better in comparison to the failed Dempster deal. I really like Vizcaino, but this move makes our rotation, bullpen and bench all moderately better immediately. We have a better chance of winning the pennant than we did 24 hours ago, but we’re still going to have to do it the hard way: without an ace.

jim

July 31st, 2012
12:02 pm

“We have to do it without an ace — ”
The names we’ve been hearing — Shields, Dempster, Backett, Lester are not now better than Hudson or the Sheets we’ve been treated to over the past 3 starts. They would add some depth to the rotation, but none of these names clearly moves ahead of Hudson in the pecking order. There really aren’t any pitchers this year who are truly dominant as Verlander was last year or Pedro, Koufax, Gibson, Maddux etc were in the past. Cain, Strasburg, Hamels, Kershaw are very good, but not virtually unbeatable. The concern for me about the Nats is their lineup as much as their pitching. Strasburg is not the only arm on that staff that is reaching uncharted waters in terms of innings pitched in a season. Zimmerman and Detweiler have not pitched more than 150 innings in a season either. We are already seeing the staff ERA starting to rise. We probably have enough pitching to do OK in the playoffs right now — Sheets is a fresh arm, if it holds up, and Hudson will have fewer innings thanks to the late start and the missed start with the ankle problem. Medlen is just entering the rotation and gives the team an opportunity to use 6 starters on occasion to give pitchers a rest. There is not a staff like the Phillies of two years ago that has a truly dominant rotation — and that has not always worked for the Phillies or the 1990’s Braves. The Giants might be the team best armed for the playoffs this year, if they make it.

PMC

July 31st, 2012
12:15 pm

If Uggla gets right and Simmons is close to what he was we won’t be so concerned about starting pitching.

The main thing, is that these guys need to go deeper into games. Hanson was replaced after throwing only 85 pitches and he left the game with a 3 run lead. (him leaving led to a 6 run lead but just saying)

Leaving in the 7th should be the standard for starters on this club.

The Truth....

July 31st, 2012
12:15 pm

Not feeling it Frank…Not exactly the Fred McGriff type trade we were looking for…..

AtHomeGym

July 31st, 2012
12:45 pm

So Hanson’s velocity is OK? I didn’t see him touch 90 even once!

jim

July 31st, 2012
12:46 pm

Are Maholm and Johnson immediately added to the 25-man roster, or can the Braves wait and add Maholm when he is scheduled to make his first start? I assume R. Johnson replaces Constanza tonight and either JJ or Avilan is bumped when Maholm is activated.
We could see JJ tonight — Medlen will go at most 5 innings and both Martinez and Avilan pitched 2 innings last night. That leaves JJ as the bridge between Kris and the back of the pen.

ijudgenot

July 31st, 2012
12:51 pm

Second time in a week that I have to give Fredi credit for making an in game decision that affected the out come of the game. The pinch hitting of Francisco for Hanson in the bottom of the sixth is something we would not have seen from Cox and Fredi earlier in the year. The earlier Fredi would have sent Hanson to the plate with two out. This Fredi made the move to possibly bust game open and it worked with the hit by Francisco. It was a gamble that paid off but it could have gone the other way if Francisco strikes out and Martinez allows four runs then many fans would have got on him for taking Hanson out after only 5 innings. Hey I like this Fredi who Is willing to take the risk of being blamed for a loss, if it gives his team the best chance to win.

jim

July 31st, 2012
12:51 pm

It was a noticeable drop from the previous start when he was hitting 91 and has had the occasional 92. Last night I saw very few above 88 and did not see a 90 at all. He has become a younger slightly faster version of Livan Hernandez, without Livan’s command (previous years)

iTiSi

July 31st, 2012
1:06 pm

It does one’s heart good seeing the Phillies “falling to pieces” right in front of our eyes. Just sent Victorino to the Dodgers and Pence to the Giants. Aint life wonderful! (Although there is one negative aspect here. They start a series with the Gnats tonight, dang it!)

Prado G-Hod-oh

July 31st, 2012
1:14 pm

Where would the Brave’s be if they had traded Prado to Kansas City like they talked about last offseason???…………………….trying to get him back in a deadline trade……………or most likely out of the WildCard race!

Prado G-Hod-oh

July 31st, 2012
1:14 pm

Where would the Brave’s be if they had traded Prado to Kansas City like they talked about last offseason???…………………….trying to get him back in a deadline trade……………or most likely out of the WildCard race!

Prado G-Hod-oh

July 31st, 2012
1:14 pm

Where would the Brave’s be if they had traded Prado to Kansas City like they talked about last offseason???…………………….trying to get him back in a deadline trade……………or most likely out of the WildCard race!

Perlo

July 31st, 2012
1:16 pm

Re: Hanson and some other players. Don’t the Braves believe in physical conditioning? Perhaps one of the problems with Hanson and his lack of stamina is the terrible shape he’s in. He looks to be carrying around a gut like someone 20 years older than he is. Maybe getting in shape would help him both with his velocity and lasting longer than 5 innings.

Perlo

July 31st, 2012
1:16 pm

Re: Hanson and some other players. Don’t the Braves believe in physical conditioning? Perhaps one of the problems with Hanson and his lack of stamina is the terrible shape he’s in. He looks to be carrying around a gut like someone 20 years older than he is. Maybe getting in shape would help him both with his velocity and lasting longer than 5 innings.

Perlo

July 31st, 2012
1:17 pm

Re: Hanson and some other players. Don’t the Braves believe in physical conditioning? Perhaps one of the problems with Hanson and his lack of stamina is the terrible shape he’s in. He looks to be carrying around a gut like someone 20 years older than he is. Maybe getting in shape would help him both with his velocity and lasting longer than 5 innings.

jim

July 31st, 2012
1:21 pm

iTiSi
Not such great news. It makes those two teams more potent and we will likely have to play one (possibly both) if we make the playoffs. With an influx of younger players to complement the likes of Rollins Utley, and Howard, the Phils might be no worse than they are now with older players playing out the string this season — so they may be no more beatable than they have been in the 9 games left with us.

McDawg

July 31st, 2012
1:26 pm

just noticed our last 3 games are against Pittsburg-hello October

mountain_jim

July 31st, 2012
1:31 pm

I read on a Chicago article from MLB rumours site that Maholm was happy about the trade, and told their manager when informed of it that he was a Braves fan growing up.

mountain_jim

July 31st, 2012
1:37 pm

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120730&content_id=35848656&vkey=news_chc&c_id=chc

is link saying: “It is strange telling two players in the middle of the game,” Hoyer said. “It started to leak out about Paul, and I wanted to make sure he heard from us first. Both guys took it great. In the case of Paul, he said he grew up a Braves fan.”

jim

July 31st, 2012
1:38 pm

Pedro,
We heard about Hanson’s conditioning regime at the Boras complex this past winter, but it doesn’t show in his profile and has added nothing to his velocity — even less than right before he was shut down last year. The problem with Hanson is not really one of conditioning, but loss of velocity and having to work off his breaking pitches. He usually does throw somewhere between 100 and 110 pitches per outing, but it takes him that number of pitches to get through five innings. He cannot challenge hitters with his fast ball any more but nibbles with his breaking pitches and tries to sneak a fastball by them when they are expecting something else. He not only throws 100+ pitches in five innings, but they are usually stressful innings with people on base. In his favor, he has been fortunate to start on nights when the Braves’ offense scores a lot of runs — he could be Delgado and get no run support and then the blog would be really dissing him. The most worrying note about Hanson from last night’s start was that his fast ball average about 2-3 miles/hr less than his previous start when he had pretty good stuff but couldn’t control it. If that trend continues, he will not make it past August before going on the DL.

mountain_jim

July 31st, 2012
1:54 pm

The poll here was for which 4 and 5 starters to go with Hanson at 3. I wanted an option for 3,4,5 starters and remove Hanson. I can’t stand watching him nibble all game with his mediocore stuff anymore.

Tumbledown

July 31st, 2012
2:13 pm

When this season started, I would have thought that the Braves would be the most likely team between them, the Phillies, and the Marlins, to be sellers at the July 31 trade deadline. Instead, the Braves are buyers while the Phillies and Marlins have gone the other way. Baseball is a tough sport to predict.

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