3:42 pm July 31, 2012, by David O'Brien
July 31st, 20126:12 pm
I guess Meds gets 3 starts then?
Simmons sees the Dr. this Friday – probably coming out of the cast and will be allowed to work out – but still 3 weeks away more than likely. Braves won’t let him rush too much – make sure the hand is completely healed and full strength.
Joe in SoCal
July 31st, 20126:13 pm
Fols….I’m guessing its the paprika.
If you say so…
A month, it looks like.
Jurrjens starting… might as well forfeit.
LOL, starting to sound like me with the negativity on JJ… don’t you remember, according to some on here, he was back again after pitching 1 good game against the Red Sox… don’t give up on him
July 31st, 20126:14 pm
All the DL does is give Tommy a solid 15 days to get even more out of shape….
And rest his back, of course. Which would feel better if his stomach was toned up….
as someone said last night, we have a better record without Simmons
July 31st, 20126:15 pm
Paprika……….hmm………..you sir could be on Masterchef!
Hanson being hurt doesn’t help his trade stock for year’s end either… what’s this, 2 straight years with some kind of injury (though this one seems more minor)
July 31st, 20126:16 pm
Lol, Wren can get all the scrubs like Muhhollum and Johnson he wants, The Braves are not catching my beloved Nationals!Washington RULZ YOUR PATHETIC BRAVES
Well written column, David! Agree with all of it!
yes probably has paprika in it.
The Braves aren’t going to win the World Series, so this trade doesn’t mean much. Quit hoping and just move on.
So just stick with Janish, huh?
least of the east
that was a good deal by Frankie W – for a change. Dempster did us a big favor. we have Maholm for 2013 if we exercise option. he’s pitching great last month or so.
this Vizcaino is always hurt. they moved him to relief to save him innings and he still needed surgery.
other contenders paid more for their guys. Dodgers paid too much for Victroino as rental. Texas gave up 2 good young guys for Dempster- better them than us.
Broxton would have helped, but Reds didn’t get him cheap either.
Wren could have done a lot worse. he also saved JR Graham, Cody Martin, David hale, Zeke Spruill and Navery Moore.
July 31st, 20126:17 pm
Pretty sure all of these opposing team fans are all the same person.
Joe Sheehan @joe_sheehan
Maybe pitchers are going to get hurt anyway, but you don’t develop a starting pitcher having him throw one-inning stints for a year.
Feliz… cough cough
Janish is better than Simmons defensively…
July 31st, 20126:18 pm
What’s with all these dumpster diving moves by your GM?
Prado’s the man at third, Juan. Left field will be a need.
Gattis is on his way over to your house right now to pound you into a pulp for even insinuating that the LF job isn’t his next season.
they did not go that far Danga , probably just jokingly pointing one of the inexplicable aspects of the game is how I took it
July 31st, 20126:19 pm
phil…The kid was hitting .300…he also had a calming influence on the pitchers when he was out there. Especially now, since Maholm has about a 50% groundball rate. The kid is a difference maker.
no way is Janish better defensively. Simmons had stupendous metrics for such a short time he was up.
Janish as to be given credit. Good glove man and will be a solid backup for Simmons.
July 31st, 20126:20 pm
Odds are the Marlins whup some skanky Braves derrier tonite!
The best SS are the ones you forget about. In Janish’s case I never heard of him to begin with, and he hasn’t done anything stupid enough for me to both googlin him.
So technically we have a starting SS that i’ve never heard of and i’m fine with that.
ugh that sounds terrible?
Simmons had stupendous metrics for such a short time he was up.
Metrics or muscles?
July 31st, 20126:23 pm
Fols…That has to be the most backhanded compliment I’ve ever heard.
Hanson is looking like the odd man out for the future. Sign Sheets, trade Hanson and bring up Delgado or Tehran.
Hanson is slip sliding away.
Record with or without ___________
Stupidest statistic of all time.
Been saying for 3-4 starts now Hanson looked very JJ-ish. With the exception that TH did at least have his good curve to get outs with. (Saved him from total butt-kickin)Other than that, his locations been terrible and fastball only 87-89. However, last night I could count on one hand how many decent curves he threw. In one aspect it’s good to know that his back was bothering him the whole time, on the other hand, back problems and 6′ 7″ pitchers could mean recurring problems. Bad shoulder, leads to bad mechanics, change of delivery, bad back, you get the picture. Hopefully I’m making a mountain out of a molehill.
Guys, my post was sarcasm (my fave). I know Simmons is better than Janish. Do have to say that Janish isn’t a huge dropoff from Andy defensively though… better than Wilson and Pastornicky…
July 31st, 20126:24 pm
Good trade for the Braves. Got some needed help, and didn’t have to give up half the farm to get them.
July 31st, 20126:25 pm
“The Braves are not catching my beloved Nationals!Washington RULZ YOUR PATHETIC BRAVES”
Damn, and we just got rid of the obnoxious PhillyFan . . .
Around The Horn
KEITH LAW OF ESPN ON THE TRADE
“Atlanta gets marginally better for this year with the additions of Maholm and Johnson, but the Cubs land the best prospect they’re likely to obtain in this year’s trade market in exchange for two players they didn’t need.” — End quote.
A hell of a lot of injuries to pitchers this year… what’s going on?
Bobby Nightengale @nightengalejr
John Danks is now out for the season (via @MDGonzales). Makes the #WhiteSox trade for Francisco Liriano much more valuable.
WTF, the round eye Johnson has my number 11 jersey. Hai, I guess Mr. Wren-San will not be calling me back to the states any time soon. I really used to be good in Japan, you could look it up. Arrigato
July 31st, 20126:27 pm
The proof will be in the pudding, regardless what Law gets paid to say.
Hmm maybe I’ll see Medlen pitch on Aug 11th at Citi Field that’d be kinda cool.
July 31st, 20126:28 pm
That smash that Roggianno hit to Janish’s left , he dove for it and it got past him. I think Simmons makes that play. And the plays behind the bag that Janish couldn’t get the handle on,Simmons makes look easy. So no, Janish isn’t near as good as Simmons but thats not to say that I’m not happy with his play. But it’s not a highlight reel every night, like it used to be.
Fols – Paprika.
Damn, and we just got rid of the obnoxious PhillyFan . . .
That guy probably is PhillyFan… he’s just a tard who wants to mess with us.
July 31st, 20126:29 pm
Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN
Diamondbacks were grinding away at Matt Garza deal, came close, but didn’t get it done.
Who’da thought that Ben Sheets would be the pick up of the year!! That is gonna be one hell of a headline when he is the winning pitcher in the NLCS.
Would rather have Delgado or Varvaro (again) instead of Gearrin come up instead.
What Law forgets to write about is that the Cubs have been in prospect mode for the better half of the last century. They should not be excited about prospects…they are embarassing and i’m glad we will use their men to get Chipper into the promise land once more!
Is Keith Law really Efrim????
July 31st, 20126:30 pm
Thanks Lew, I actually expected you to reply first! But top 3 is still worthy of a medal.
Apparently I’m not the first to suggest that.
Simmons gets rid of the ball faster than Janish and prolly everybody else. That, and getting to the ball quickly a lethal combo. We’re so much stronger defensively with him on the field.
July 31st, 20126:31 pm
How often is Keith Law correct? As I recall, he’s always had sort of an anti-Brave bias – maybe it’s just because I’m a fan and laugh at just about everything of his I read.
July 31st, 20126:32 pm
5:05pm: Two teams told ESPN.com’s Jayson Stark that the Marlins thought they had traded Lee to the Yankees today (Twitter link). However, Lee wouldn’t waive his no-trade clause.
I’m happy with Janish too. I wish he could hit a little more, but even so, right now he’s playing a pretty good SS, better than anyone else that we had could.
64 year Braves fan
Love Merle Haggard but Waylon best of them all. Also, great deal by Wren for Braves.
July 31st, 20126:33 pm
Nahh. Keith Law is and idiot. Efrim is smart.
July 31st, 20126:34 pm
Danga, I’m thinking this DL stint does Tommy a lot of good. Glad to hear it isn’t his shoulder that is bothering him.
It makes perfect sense, Wren and Fredi said Hanson needed some rest, this way we get to bring up someone else to help out instead of going one person short.
July 31st, 20126:35 pm
You had to know before you ever read it what Law was going to say. Nolie posted it last night and someone else today. Absolutely no surprise at all.
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
Ditto that David O’Brien.
Yes this was a very good trade for our Bravos, and it may well help the Cubbies down the road. But somehow I’m thinking their are more than a few A.L. teams wishing we had gotten Ryan Dempster right about now.
That said, good luck and good riddance to Dempster. Wren one upped him by making a better trade.
It goes without saying that this makes us a favorite to win a wild card berth ,and maybe even win the division by catching the Nats.
July 31st, 20126:36 pm
And, to stress the point, if Keith Law was as smart or as good at evaluating talent as he seems to THINK he is, he would have gotten the job he interviewed for in December 2011.
He was all excited about his interview with the Astros – rumored to have been as their scouting director.
He still writes for ESPN
July 31st, 20126:37 pm
Law=Murphy’s Law…whatever he can say negative, he will say negative.
July 31st, 20126:38 pm
Keith Law enjoys getting a rise out of people. His type of journalism is best ignored.
July 31st, 20126:40 pm
I don’t think he was trying to get a rise, he values high potential more than anything else. Vizcaine gas a higher upside than anybody else in the trade by far. Might never reach it, but that is the basis fro evaluating young talent
…for 2 players they didn’t need. baseball players? ya, the cubs don’t need these types clogging up their system.
July 31st, 20126:42 pm
DOB, how about bring us some George Strait?
You don’t like King George?
July 31st, 20126:43 pm
George Straight is pretty bland IMO
Who needs a guy that hits .300 off the bench and a pitcher who throws 50% groundballs..apparently not the cubs. Is it any wonder they haven’t been to the big dance in 100 years?
July 31st, 20126:45 pm
they have dancing at the World Series???
July 31st, 20126:46 pm
“Paul Maholm has a mindset like that of Tom Glavine…. he doesn’t give in”- Frank Wren on 680 Braves Pregame
July 31st, 20126:47 pm
If Bud hands Frank Wren the big shiny trophy with all the little flags on it, we’ll be able evaluate the success of this trade in November. We wont have to wait to see if the Cubs pitchers have great careers.
July 31st, 20126:49 pm
Got to say, I accomplished my goal of provoking bloggers by saying Janish is better than Simmons defensively
From the previous blog which had 2,676 comments, TheOnlyBravesFan led the way with 279 posts. There were 218 different poster names. Here are the Top 25:
Rank Poster Frequency
1 TheOnlyBravesFan 279
2 nolie 157
3 CraZy 70
4 Efrim 70
5 Frankie 67
6 Pace 66
7 BFChris27 63
8 ACE 58
9 tiger297 55
10 Jeff R 53
11 JC Brave 47
12 Bama Brave 45
13 Braves fan always 43
14 TennesseePaul 43
15 Brian from SC 42
16 Ward 42
17 ncbravesfan90 42
18 brian 40
19 phil 40
20 Bravesfaninnc 38
21 ChattTownBrian 37
22 The A Bomb 37
23 abeeewright 35
24 ncscoots 31
25 raleighbravefan 30
FRANK GAVE UP FAR TOO MUCH
Consider the comments of Jay Jaffe of Sports Illustrated:
“… the Braves gave up quality in the form of the 21-year-old Vizcaino, who came into the year ranked 40th on Baseball America‘s Top 100 Prospects list — and an eye-popping 14th on Keith Law’s list — but who underwent Tommy John surgery in late March after pitching through a partially torn ulnar collateral ligament since 2010. Undersized at 6 feet and 190 pounds, and with an unorthodox delivery, he throws a 92-96 MPH fastball that can touch 98 out of the bullpen, and a power curveball that’s also an out pitch. His command issues, injury history and failure to develop a third pitch may make him a permanent reliever, though. Chapman is a reliever as well, a 25-year-old righty who was striking out 10.1 per nine at Triple-A Gwinnett on the strength of a plus changeup that complements an 89-92 MPH fastball.” — End quote.
July 31st, 20126:50 pm
David O’Brien @ajcbraves
#Braves Ross on newcomer Reed Johnson: “When you’re using me as a pinch-hitter, you’re not going that well. So it’s a really good move.”
Pete…George Straight makes George Jones look like Ozzy Osbourne on stage! He is exactly like his name states..Straight. Like cigar store indian straight. My apologies to all you cigar store indians.
July 31st, 20126:51 pm
Braves will win tonight. Take it to the bank!
Kevin McAlpin @KevinMcAlpin
#Braves vs Ricky Nolasco: McCann 18-52 (.346) w/6 HR, 20 RBI.
Prado 12-37 (.324). Bourn 9-31 (.290).
Heyward 6-17 (.353) w/4 XBH
July 31st, 20126:53 pm
Our starting pitching depth chart for the remaining sixty games:
Folk’s, that’s enough to git’er done
1 TheOnlyBravesFan 279
2 nolie 157
3 CraZy 70
Did you really have to post this?
Now I feel bad…. I blame it on staying up much of the night and posting all the tweets.
simply classless organization,with a gutless GM… that’s your Atlanta choking Braves
His command issues, injury history and failure to develop a third pitch may make him a permanent reliever, though
did you actually read that quote you just posted?
July 31st, 20126:54 pm
Thumbs up: Braves react to trade for Maholm and Johnson
The Dude Abides... Still
July 31st, 20126:55 pm
I want to get on the cool kids list
Ol’ Gimper Jones must be down right giddy!
well if neither of these guys got a standing O, Wren should consider the trade a failure right off the bat…..
July 31st, 20126:56 pm
Anybody think Merle Haggard looks like Mel Kiper in that photo?
Nationals trolls are almost if not worse than Philly or Mets trolls.
Look at that goof Medlen, looks like a fat kid standing in line for a kiddie ride!
Simmons, All-Star in the making. Janish, headed back to the bench or minors……..enough said.
Chris from the Rock
Great trade for the Bravos! Still could use another setup man though. Maybe Moylan can fill that role in a few weeks though.
July 31st, 20126:57 pm
Bland like, married his high school sweetheart, served in the Army, and has had a record 60 certified #1 hits, and 30 albums, all with the same record label , 75 million in album sales, and the same, Ace-in-the-Hole Band members?
If King George is “bland,” there’s a bunch of us who love bland . . .
prolly not a Nats troll
you southern scrum, should be so lucky as to have a team like the MIGHTY NATIONALS
July 31st, 20126:58 pm
July 31st, 2012
I would like a double cheeseburger, hold the pickles, Large fires, Large Dr. Pepper and a large vanilla milk shake. Make it snappy! I got a ball game to watch in five minutes!
July 31st, 20126:59 pm
his music all sounds the same, I gotta agree. Willie,Waylon,Merle all much more interesting IMO
July 31st, 20127:01 pm
Medlen looks like such a dork….
I love it when the “new kids on the block” come out talking smack! Its there first time staying up late and they got that big sugar rush going on. So cute.
Braves win tonight, Meds goes 5, maybe 5.2 if he can keep a low pitch count. BMac goes yicketty, Juan and Uggla go Mammo.
Braves win 10-2.
Good luck Meds!
July 31st, 20127:02 pm
Medlen looks like some lost kid in the mall with doo doo in his britches goofy looking crudmuffin
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