DOB, You’re Obsession with Pumped up Visions of Ryan Dempster is Truly Disturbing, considering You’re Supposed to be a Rational-minded Unbiased Sports Writer…. Well, Two out of Three ain’t bad… Not Real Good, but Still it’s very Tiring to hear Your Rants about a Pitcher of Mediocrity, whom the Texas Rangers just proved how Idiotic some Teams can get when they’re Desparate to Win a Division Title. Their Acquisitions of Soto, a THIRD STRING CAtcher, and Dempster a No impact Pitcher, Sur eh can Show-up and Play for 9 innings better than some Braves we won’t mention, but his Pitching Ability is Far OVER-RATED. MOVE-On To something Worthwhile Would You Please.
jeff r, wren might not think about it the same way i do, so you could be right about him trying to sign a top shelf pitcher. personally, ill take the position player making $13 or $14 mil over the SP making $24 mil. even if bourn doesnt hit .300, he is an excellent base runner and defender and brings alot of value. might just be me, but i wouldnt spend that kinda money on any player, especially not a pitcher.
Mahlom is a gamble, hopefully a Low-end gamble…. It Wasn’t something we Needed……. Kris Medlin just Proved last night, and Mike Minor the night Before, The Braves Rotation is SET… There is NO NEED to PANIC, Frank Wren Running around Like a Banshee Making Unnecessary Trades.
If we signed a FA top of the rotation SP our rotation would be
1. FA big$$$ SP
2. Hudson
3. Hanson
4. Maholm
5. Minor/Delgado/Teheran/Medlen/Sheets
I think it’s more likely that Wren trades Hanson and/or Delgado this off season to fill needs or to get a top of the rotation SP. That would free up a spot in the rotation for Med’s or Teheran or even Sheets if they try to resign him.
1. Traded for SP
2. Huddy
3. Maholm
4. Minor
5. Teheran/Meds/Sheets
I wonder if Braves might consider bringing Delgado back up as BP help, I would think his innings for rest of season might also be limited. I don’t feel comfortable with Gearrin or JJ there.
Medlen finally gets a chance to start, and excels. What a surprise. Seriously, this young man knows how to pitch. Physically as well as mentally, he’d be a great addition to the rotation if they can convince themselves to keep him there. Hanson has been a question mark for as long as I’ve followed him. Yes, the numbers are pretty (W-L numbers, that is. ERA has never been stellar for long) but you only have to look as far as his last few starts, to see the inconsistency that he’s shown his entire career. And with that delivery, forget about holding runners on, it’s not happening. I wish Hanson could live up to his potential. I’m sure Medlen will.
Lots of folks are trying to figger out what FW should do this winter in prep for 2013. I do it in my head all the time.
But we all need to step back and realize that a lot of those answers will come in the performances of our players in the next 2+ months. How will our rotation finish off the year? Lots of question marks there; could go either way. How will Bourn close out 2012? Will he play closer to his norms or at the accelerated pace he did for the first half (he has been way below norms since the break). Same with Prado.
Who will be available? How much money will we have after giving some well deserved raises to some of our younger players?
Will Francisco close out the year strong? Is Johnson interested in returning? Sheets? Maholm? Minor (that’s a major!)?
I am not convinced we can afford a big salaried top of the rotation starter. We lose Chipper’s salary and Lowe’s 10 million, but have raises in play.
I think it’s great having Bourn at the top of the order and having his glove in center. Hard to replace that combo. But we all know Boras well enough. He does a super job maxing contracts for his clients, and that usually means getting teams into bidding wars. I just don’t know if Wren’s prepared to play that game of attempting to outbid the competition.
Should be an interesting and active winter for the Braves.
Gattis is getting it done. If they move him up to AAA and he continues to get it done then I think the Braves should give him a chance. With Prado at 3B next season and no other true corner OF in the organization, why not? He fits the Braves needs of being cheap and able to hit. Might not be much with the glove, but if they resign Bourn, he won’t have to be all that and a bag of chips.
In other news, Demi Moore and Bruce Willis are two attractive movie stars, but together they made two of the ugliest girls possible, especially Rumer….she is very hard on the eyes. And Scout is not much better. Sad.
ken – Yeah, their progeny is somewhat reminiscent of Alien 4 – though not quite as drastic. Maybe if they had put make up and designer dresses on the Ripley Clones?
David O’Brien @ajcbraves
Some aren’t being serious (crosses fingers). RT @Shawn_Tat: @ajcbraves your comment sections are hilariously awful. Are those real people?
So in AA, we have Cunningham, Gattis and Terdoslavich hitting well. Does any of those 3 get an August promo to Gwinnett?
Whom do we see getting called up to the big club for the September run. The Braves rarely bring up more than 5-6 players. One is usually a catcher. We’ve got some deserving arms down there with Teheran, Delgado, Varvaro and maybe Buddy Carlyle.
Our trio of outfielders in AAA are all basically punch and judy hitters, but all have done well in AAA. Plus we have Pastornicky up already.
Let’s win the WS, then worry about next year. Winter moves are not predictable at this time…insufficient information.
Is Sheets for real? If so, what would he cost?
I expect Huddy to be strong, after bone spur clean-up…but not guaranteed, especially at his age.
Will Minor continue to improve? With more consistancy, his “ceiling” may be higher than most think.
How good will Maholm be?
Hanson…now there’s a guy who could go either way. What do you do about him?
Will Delgado get more consistant? Will Teheran finally figure it out?
How good (or bad) would Francisco be as a regular?
Will Johnson want to re-sign? What would he cost?
Is Bourn a real possibility?
Who is available during the off season, and at what cost?
These are all things that Wren will have to work out by the end of ST. I believe the future is good…solid foundation to build on, and good people running things. There may even be more money, especially if we go deep in the post season. Each home game means LOTS of extra bucks.
Will he play closer to his norms or at the accelerated pace he did for the first half (he has been way below norms since the break). Same with Prado.
Just for the record, Prado is not playing above his norms this year. The outlier was a wasted 2011 when injuries put him in a funk. His numbers this year are pretty much ‘who he is.’
I am very happy with the braves moves… we got a guy for the bench and help out for a few games playing the outfield and we got a decent LHP that will be apart of the rotation nexy year…. Hudson, Minor, Maholm, Hanson and maybe medlen and another starter…. the pieces are in place for next year as well so I bet the braves resign bourn to a deal this off season
What I should have said (I was trying to be too brief) is will Prado continue to play well from here on out, as he has been in a slump since the All Star break.
I think both of those guys could use a game or two off to rest up.
Seems that all the Heyward off days earlier on haven’t hurt him at this point in the season.
3 things need to happen.
1) everyone (except Uggla) need to continue performing at or above current leve
2) Uggla needs to get hot, and stay hot
3) Simmons needs to come back, and pick up where he left off.
If those all happen, we could go a long, long way.
DOB, You’re Obsession with Pumped up Visions of Ryan Dempster is Truly Disturbing, considering You’re Supposed to be a Rational-minded Unbiased Sports Writer…. Well, Two out of Three ain’t bad… Not Real Good, but Still it’s very Tiring to hear Your Rants about a Pitcher of Mediocrity, whom the Texas Rangers just proved how Idiotic some Teams can get when they’re Desparate to Win a Division Title. Their Acquisitions of Soto, a THIRD STRING CAtcher, and Dempster a No impact Pitcher, Sur eh can Show-up and Play for 9 innings better than some Braves we won’t mention, but his Pitching Ability is Far OVER-RATED. MOVE-On To something Worthwhile Would You Please. — BrandonLee49
MikeinFl- And neither is Bourn playing over his norms – look at his numbers the past four years – he’s had one year with smaller BA and OBP (but not huge differences in OBP) and only his SLG% this year is significantly higher than usual – and we don’t expect him to hit HR anyway.
Unless Bourn has a hellacious August and September, I expect the Braves to pass on his assumed inflated price tag. Boras WILL take him to the top dollar offer.
Offer him a fair contract, then move on.
We can’t afford a high buck pitcher (over 15 million per) or position player.
CraZy,
I’ve had the same thoughts about the use of Strasburg. Why not pitch him every 6th game, or something to that effect?
Of course, some stat nerd will tell us that all the games count the same, so there’s no reason to save him for September, etc.
That said, he’s going to keep pitching as long as they’re in it. Unless, of course, that shellacking he took last night was evidence of the kind of slippage in performance his GM is watching for.
What would you have thought about the Braves chances in August if you knew Jurgens, Beachy & Hanson would not be in the rotation starting the month. May have already been discussed………….
agree with the second rotation. I don’t see the Braves relying on Hanson next year and JJ will be gone. Minor has done enough this year already to justify a rotation spot and I am sure the Braves would love to have Sheets back as well. The Braves still want and need an ace. Then the next year Hudson or Maholm would be replaced by a healthy Beachy. very strong rotation for years to come.
Of course I say that hoping beyond hope that they do not offer Bourn a massive contract. 1 year/12.5M, that’s perfectly fine. multiple years at 12.5+? terrible, terrible, terrible move.
We have a lot of raises coming due in the next couple of years. If it means having to deal any of our youngsters (Prado, Heyward, Freeman, Hanson, Medlen, Kimbrel, etc.) to get a big contract player, I’d prefer to take a pass.
Seriously dude, I’m starting to question your ability to analyze prospects. Gattis is a once in a 5 generation talent. For him it’d be Longoria, Shields and Zobrist, plus cash.
I think it’s great having Bourn at the top of the order and having his glove in center. Hard to replace that combo.
Don’t need to replace both. I’d be more concerned about the glove than the bat, because Prado can always lead off.
The more important OF position will be LF. Imperative that the Braves replace some of the offense that Chipper is generating this year, and moreso if Bourn is replaced by a lesser bat.
I know Meds dominated in his outing last night, I didn’t think Scoots would take it so hard
Oh, just realized (for all you Frank Wren bashers)…. the Braves are the only NL East team who added at the deadline… We made ourselves better, Mets/Marlins made themselves worse, and the Nats stood pat. We seem to be in a good position to catch the Nats.
Bourn won’t be back. There just aren’t that many true leadoff guys around anymore. And to the Braves and their mid-level budget, its not worth putting 15-20% of their budget towards a leadoff hitter.
What will be interesting is what the Phillies do with Halladay, Hamels and Lee – those 3 alone will be making between 60-70 mill a year. That is nuts! I assume one has got to go, and I think Halladay is a free agent after 2013. So it’s probably Lee, but who wants that contract.
TOBF – Of course, the Phillies are in the first stage of cleaning up their mess, so watch out again in a couple of year. Marlins, on the other hand, are seriously incompetent.
Of course, we are now only 2.5 back, and charging.
Can they afford to sign one $15 mil player, two, or none at all?
The certainly can afford to sign a player at that much. Perhaps even more, if reports are accurate.
I warn against signing Bourn to such a contract as he just isn’t that type of player. This wonderful, fantastic, awesome year he is giving the team is his career best year and highly unlikely to ever be repeated.
TenPaul – I never said that it would be Bourn they signed for that much (thoiugh it wouldn’t bother me as much as some others here). But I’d bet they do sign at least one player to that kind of deal – maybe even a pitcher.
It will be intersting to see how Sheets pitches the rest of the year and if he does continue to pitch well, what kind of deal they might offer him going forward.
- Phillies – would fall to 2nd place (old and injured) – I OVERestimated
- Washington – A team on the rise…great (potential) pitching, good talent, good baseball minds runing the team , and money to spend. Long-term dangerous. – I UNDERestimated, although I still expect them to fade some.
- Marlins – Potential mess…plenty of room for melt-down. Way overrated by many. I OVERestimated them.
- Mets – AAA quality bottom feeders – I UNDERestimated, although they are falling fast.
When do we get to test drive the shiney new MAHOLM?? I understand it’s not a luxery-model, but a great mid-sized sedan, very reliable, and good on gas-milage too!
Where is this career year we keep hearing about? Must b the HR’s.- Lew
Dont think we’ve been hearing that as much lately. It was more in June when he was carrying a .320/.372/.469 line. Maybe he’s just bringing his price down for us
unbelieveable – Well, I think we heard it earlier today (most definitely yesterday). That’s why you decide if it was a career year AFTER the season ends and all the facts are in and not half way through.
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TheOnlyBravesFan
August 1st, 2012
10:30 am
Only because I was @ the bottom…
Dropbox admits to being hacked
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57483998-83/dropbox-confirms-it-was-hacked-offers-users-help/
of Eric Hinske .256 .338 .456 .793 2010
of Eric Hinske .233 .311 .403 .713 2011
of Eric Hinske .209 .290 .300 .590 2012
He is done
Agree. I guess the FO was hoping he’d rebound a little closer to his norms…
BrandonLee49
August 1st, 2012
10:34 am
DOB, You’re Obsession with Pumped up Visions of Ryan Dempster is Truly Disturbing, considering You’re Supposed to be a Rational-minded Unbiased Sports Writer…. Well, Two out of Three ain’t bad… Not Real Good, but Still it’s very Tiring to hear Your Rants about a Pitcher of Mediocrity, whom the Texas Rangers just proved how Idiotic some Teams can get when they’re Desparate to Win a Division Title. Their Acquisitions of Soto, a THIRD STRING CAtcher, and Dempster a No impact Pitcher, Sur eh can Show-up and Play for 9 innings better than some Braves we won’t mention, but his Pitching Ability is Far OVER-RATED. MOVE-On To something Worthwhile Would You Please.
Chiricahua Brave
August 1st, 2012
10:35 am
Evan Gattis in 809 minor league plate appearances.
.320 .382 .561 .944 40HR
This year 190 PA
.358 .432 .715 1.147 14 HR
DAP
August 1st, 2012
10:36 am
jeff r, wren might not think about it the same way i do, so you could be right about him trying to sign a top shelf pitcher. personally, ill take the position player making $13 or $14 mil over the SP making $24 mil. even if bourn doesnt hit .300, he is an excellent base runner and defender and brings alot of value. might just be me, but i wouldnt spend that kinda money on any player, especially not a pitcher.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 1st, 2012
10:36 am
Player of the Month should be McCutchen in my opinion… this is his July stat line
.446/.510/.739/1.249 w/ 41 hits in 92 ABs, 22 runs scored, 7 HR, 15 RBI,12 BB, 16 SO.
Would be well deserved.
BrandonLee49
August 1st, 2012
10:39 am
Mahlom is a gamble, hopefully a Low-end gamble…. It Wasn’t something we Needed……. Kris Medlin just Proved last night, and Mike Minor the night Before, The Braves Rotation is SET… There is NO NEED to PANIC, Frank Wren Running around Like a Banshee Making Unnecessary Trades.
CrαZy
August 1st, 2012
10:39 am
If we signed a FA top of the rotation SP our rotation would be
1. FA big$$$ SP
2. Hudson
3. Hanson
4. Maholm
5. Minor/Delgado/Teheran/Medlen/Sheets
I think it’s more likely that Wren trades Hanson and/or Delgado this off season to fill needs or to get a top of the rotation SP. That would free up a spot in the rotation for Med’s or Teheran or even Sheets if they try to resign him.
1. Traded for SP
2. Huddy
3. Maholm
4. Minor
5. Teheran/Meds/Sheets
Lew
August 1st, 2012
10:40 am
Brandon Lee – Too many kicks to the head recently?
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 1st, 2012
10:41 am
Juan Francisco’s line for July… .407/.484/.778/1.262 in 27 ABs. In those limited ABs, he is 3rd in the NL OBP and top SLG and OPS.
Small sample size though….
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 1st, 2012
10:41 am
TOBF—
Gee, thanks for raining on my parade. Yeah, he’ll prolly win it—everybody’s so freakishly obsessed with him…
CB
August 1st, 2012
10:43 am
Lew, I’m thinking a UVA graduate.
Chiricahua Brave
August 1st, 2012
10:45 am
freakishly obsessed ? Come on now.
CrαZy
August 1st, 2012
10:46 am
When did it become So Popular to capitolize Random words when you’re typing?
CrαZy
August 1st, 2012
10:47 am
misspelled capitalize… That’s what I get!!
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 1st, 2012
10:48 am
Oh sorry, McFann… but just looking at the stats, there are so many other guys who hit better than Mac (who still did well).
BMac is 3rd in HR hit in July, with 9. And is tied for 4th in RBI with 21, 3 behind the leader Ryan Zimmerman.
MikeInFl
August 1st, 2012
10:50 am
BMac can be Comeback Player of the Month. How ’bout that?
Almost doubled his OPS from June to July…
CB
August 1st, 2012
10:54 am
I wonder if Braves might consider bringing Delgado back up as BP help, I would think his innings for rest of season might also be limited. I don’t feel comfortable with Gearrin or JJ there.
TennesseePaul
August 1st, 2012
10:56 am
Heyward since the beginning of June:
________AVG__OBP__SLG__OPS
Lefty. .286 .337 .524 .861
Righty .327 .392 .570 .962
Hallelujah!!
August 1st, 2012
10:57 am
Medlen finally gets a chance to start, and excels. What a surprise. Seriously, this young man knows how to pitch. Physically as well as mentally, he’d be a great addition to the rotation if they can convince themselves to keep him there. Hanson has been a question mark for as long as I’ve followed him. Yes, the numbers are pretty (W-L numbers, that is. ERA has never been stellar for long) but you only have to look as far as his last few starts, to see the inconsistency that he’s shown his entire career. And with that delivery, forget about holding runners on, it’s not happening. I wish Hanson could live up to his potential. I’m sure Medlen will.
CrαZy
August 1st, 2012
10:57 am
CB…
I think they’ll let him finish in AAA as a SP and give him a chance in the pen in Sept. I think he’d have a chance to be in the playoffs.
Hallelujah!!
August 1st, 2012
10:58 am
Plus, all you Wren haters can get off the bus now. He’s proven, ONCE AGAIN, he knows what he’s doing. Imagine if he had a competitive payroll?
TennesseePaul
August 1st, 2012
11:00 am
I got totally different numbers than BrianSC on the Heyward splits…
Tommy T
August 1st, 2012
11:01 am
BrandonLee49:
What the Crap was That?
CB
August 1st, 2012
11:03 am
Crazy, could be. He has 108 innings so far, I don’t know what his limitations are
TennesseePaul
August 1st, 2012
11:05 am
5 HR and 5 doubles against lefties….
Perhaps I missed something?
Lew
August 1st, 2012
11:09 am
Thing is that as far as living up to potential – Medlen’s potential was never what Hanson’s was.
abeeewright
August 1st, 2012
11:10 am
Lew … Gattis is a great story.
I doubt he’s an option in 2013, or maybe ever.
But,nthey keep moving him up levels and he keeps adjusting. So … who knows?
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
August 1st, 2012
11:10 am
TOBF—
Yeah…I don’t think he’s ever won Player of the Month or even Player of the Week because there’s always some joker who’s slightly ahead of him…
MikeInFL BMac can be Comeback Player of the Month. How ’bout that?
That sounds good!…:)
DS1
August 1st, 2012
11:11 am
Lots of folks are trying to figger out what FW should do this winter in prep for 2013. I do it in my head all the time.
But we all need to step back and realize that a lot of those answers will come in the performances of our players in the next 2+ months. How will our rotation finish off the year? Lots of question marks there; could go either way. How will Bourn close out 2012? Will he play closer to his norms or at the accelerated pace he did for the first half (he has been way below norms since the break). Same with Prado.
Who will be available? How much money will we have after giving some well deserved raises to some of our younger players?
Will Francisco close out the year strong? Is Johnson interested in returning? Sheets? Maholm? Minor (that’s a major!)?
I am not convinced we can afford a big salaried top of the rotation starter. We lose Chipper’s salary and Lowe’s 10 million, but have raises in play.
Jeff R
August 1st, 2012
11:13 am
DAP,
I think it’s great having Bourn at the top of the order and having his glove in center. Hard to replace that combo. But we all know Boras well enough. He does a super job maxing contracts for his clients, and that usually means getting teams into bidding wars. I just don’t know if Wren’s prepared to play that game of attempting to outbid the competition.
Should be an interesting and active winter for the Braves.
Lew
August 1st, 2012
11:13 am
abeeewright – We’ll see. Kind of hard to call success in 19 AA games as a great story -if he makes it to the bigs and does it there, then maybe so.
TennesseePaul
August 1st, 2012
11:14 am
And I did miss something…
Murph
August 1st, 2012
11:14 am
Gattis is getting it done. If they move him up to AAA and he continues to get it done then I think the Braves should give him a chance. With Prado at 3B next season and no other true corner OF in the organization, why not? He fits the Braves needs of being cheap and able to hit. Might not be much with the glove, but if they resign Bourn, he won’t have to be all that and a bag of chips.
Fish Bisch
August 1st, 2012
11:14 am
So is Meds starting this Saturday?
kenhotlanta
August 1st, 2012
11:15 am
In other news, Demi Moore and Bruce Willis are two attractive movie stars, but together they made two of the ugliest girls possible, especially Rumer….she is very hard on the eyes. And Scout is not much better. Sad.
ACE
August 1st, 2012
11:21 am
Ken, scout is for sure the better of the two but that’s not saying a lot.
ACE
August 1st, 2012
11:22 am
I was waiting for a follow up from Brandon Lee or a reply from DOB.
Lew
August 1st, 2012
11:23 am
ken – Yeah, their progeny is somewhat reminiscent of Alien 4 – though not quite as drastic. Maybe if they had put make up and designer dresses on the Ripley Clones?
TennesseePaul
August 1st, 2012
11:23 am
Is scoots ok? I know Meds dominated in his outing last night, I didn’t think Scoots would take it so hard…
ACE
August 1st, 2012
11:24 am
A rational minded sports wrrter?
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 1st, 2012
11:24 am
So is Meds starting this Saturday?
From all indications, Yes.
Capt. "Fly" Mudd
August 1st, 2012
11:25 am
Are they going to try and make it right? @Kenhotlanta
Venice Jim
August 1st, 2012
11:25 am
David O’Brien @ajcbraves
Some aren’t being serious (crosses fingers). RT @Shawn_Tat: @ajcbraves your comment sections are hilariously awful. Are those real people?
DS1
August 1st, 2012
11:25 am
So in AA, we have Cunningham, Gattis and Terdoslavich hitting well. Does any of those 3 get an August promo to Gwinnett?
Whom do we see getting called up to the big club for the September run. The Braves rarely bring up more than 5-6 players. One is usually a catcher. We’ve got some deserving arms down there with Teheran, Delgado, Varvaro and maybe Buddy Carlyle.
Our trio of outfielders in AAA are all basically punch and judy hitters, but all have done well in AAA. Plus we have Pastornicky up already.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 1st, 2012
11:26 am
Is scoots ok? I know Meds dominated in his outing last night, I didn’t think Scoots would take it so hard…
LOL…. even nolie is quiet
raleighbravefan
August 1st, 2012
11:27 am
Let’s win the WS, then worry about next year. Winter moves are not predictable at this time…insufficient information.
Is Sheets for real? If so, what would he cost?
I expect Huddy to be strong, after bone spur clean-up…but not guaranteed, especially at his age.
Will Minor continue to improve? With more consistancy, his “ceiling” may be higher than most think.
How good will Maholm be?
Hanson…now there’s a guy who could go either way. What do you do about him?
Will Delgado get more consistant? Will Teheran finally figure it out?
How good (or bad) would Francisco be as a regular?
Will Johnson want to re-sign? What would he cost?
Is Bourn a real possibility?
Who is available during the off season, and at what cost?
These are all things that Wren will have to work out by the end of ST. I believe the future is good…solid foundation to build on, and good people running things. There may even be more money, especially if we go deep in the post season. Each home game means LOTS of extra bucks.
DiamondbackMac
August 1st, 2012
11:27 am
Ken
It’s that Jay Leno chin. Not very attractive on a girl.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 1st, 2012
11:28 am
Some aren’t being serious (crosses fingers). RT @Shawn_Tat: @ajcbraves your comment sections are hilariously awful. Are those real people?
Yeah, I fall into the not being serious portion (sometimes).
MikeInFl
August 1st, 2012
11:28 am
Will he play closer to his norms or at the accelerated pace he did for the first half (he has been way below norms since the break). Same with Prado.
Just for the record, Prado is not playing above his norms this year. The outlier was a wasted 2011 when injuries put him in a funk. His numbers this year are pretty much ‘who he is.’
BravesFanInMaine
August 1st, 2012
11:29 am
I am very happy with the braves moves… we got a guy for the bench and help out for a few games playing the outfield and we got a decent LHP that will be apart of the rotation nexy year…. Hudson, Minor, Maholm, Hanson and maybe medlen and another starter…. the pieces are in place for next year as well so I bet the braves resign bourn to a deal this off season
DS1
August 1st, 2012
11:34 am
MikeInFl
What I should have said (I was trying to be too brief) is will Prado continue to play well from here on out, as he has been in a slump since the All Star break.
I think both of those guys could use a game or two off to rest up.
Seems that all the Heyward off days earlier on haven’t hurt him at this point in the season.
raleighbravefan
August 1st, 2012
11:34 am
3 things need to happen.
1) everyone (except Uggla) need to continue performing at or above current leve
2) Uggla needs to get hot, and stay hot
3) Simmons needs to come back, and pick up where he left off.
If those all happen, we could go a long, long way.
Capt. "Fly" Mudd
August 1st, 2012
11:35 am
Reed in CF is reported to cover a little grounf….i.e., “still moves well,”…..how about his arm? Anything on that?
David O'Brien
August 1st, 2012
11:35 am
DOB, You’re Obsession with Pumped up Visions of Ryan Dempster is Truly Disturbing, considering You’re Supposed to be a Rational-minded Unbiased Sports Writer…. Well, Two out of Three ain’t bad… Not Real Good, but Still it’s very Tiring to hear Your Rants about a Pitcher of Mediocrity, whom the Texas Rangers just proved how Idiotic some Teams can get when they’re Desparate to Win a Division Title. Their Acquisitions of Soto, a THIRD STRING CAtcher, and Dempster a No impact Pitcher, Sur eh can Show-up and Play for 9 innings better than some Braves we won’t mention, but his Pitching Ability is Far OVER-RATED. MOVE-On To something Worthwhile Would You Please. — BrandonLee49
I’ll assume this was serious.
Thank you. Wonderful comment.
Lew
August 1st, 2012
11:37 am
MikeinFl- And neither is Bourn playing over his norms – look at his numbers the past four years – he’s had one year with smaller BA and OBP (but not huge differences in OBP) and only his SLG% this year is significantly higher than usual – and we don’t expect him to hit HR anyway.
DAP
August 1st, 2012
11:39 am
this is not a criticism whatsoever, but i really expected prado to hit more homers.
Efrim
August 1st, 2012
11:40 am
Is scoots ok? I know Meds dominated in his outing last night, I didn’t think Scoots would take it so hard…
I’ve never felt more comfortable for our #2, #4 and #5 slots in the starting rotation than I do right now.
Just need that guy to lead the rotation(Shields) and depending on Hanson, may need to go with Hudson and the 3 M’s next year.
Lew
August 1st, 2012
11:41 am
DAP – He’s been going to right more with Bourn on base. He hits most of his HR to LF and LCF.
ACE
August 1st, 2012
11:41 am
DOB thanks Brandon for his support.
Efrim
August 1st, 2012
11:41 am
this is not a criticism whatsoever, but i really expected prado to hit more homers.
Yeah, I mean he’s at .783 right now and that’s basically what he is. .295/.345/.435ish hitter. That’s a good 3B especially with his defense.
DS1
August 1st, 2012
11:43 am
Unless Bourn has a hellacious August and September, I expect the Braves to pass on his assumed inflated price tag. Boras WILL take him to the top dollar offer.
Offer him a fair contract, then move on.
We can’t afford a high buck pitcher (over 15 million per) or position player.
ukuga
August 1st, 2012
11:43 am
CraZy,
I’ve had the same thoughts about the use of Strasburg. Why not pitch him every 6th game, or something to that effect?
Of course, some stat nerd will tell us that all the games count the same, so there’s no reason to save him for September, etc.
That said, he’s going to keep pitching as long as they’re in it. Unless, of course, that shellacking he took last night was evidence of the kind of slippage in performance his GM is watching for.
Efrim
August 1st, 2012
11:43 am
And I’m guessing for Shields they’d want one of Delgado or Teheran.
But maybe we can get Shields for Evan Gattis, Joey Terdoslavich and Todd Cunningham……..
Lew
August 1st, 2012
11:44 am
DS1 – Sure they can – maybe not two of them, but definitley they can afford one.
OleJC
August 1st, 2012
11:44 am
What would you have thought about the Braves chances in August if you knew Jurgens, Beachy & Hanson would not be in the rotation starting the month. May have already been discussed………….
DS1
August 1st, 2012
11:45 am
How long can Sheets keep up at this pace? (he says crossing his fingers)
TennesseePaul
August 1st, 2012
11:45 am
That’s a good 3B especially with his defense.
It’s solid, but man is this going to be a drop off from what I got used to seeing over the past 18 years.
TennesseePaul
August 1st, 2012
11:46 am
Sure they can – maybe not two of them, but definitley they can afford one.
Awesome. That’s the spirit Lew! ( :
raleighbravefan
August 1st, 2012
11:47 am
Efrim – Let’s “throw in” Jurgens, as well.
brian
August 1st, 2012
11:47 am
CraZy-
agree with the second rotation. I don’t see the Braves relying on Hanson next year and JJ will be gone. Minor has done enough this year already to justify a rotation spot and I am sure the Braves would love to have Sheets back as well. The Braves still want and need an ace. Then the next year Hudson or Maholm would be replaced by a healthy Beachy. very strong rotation for years to come.
TennesseePaul
August 1st, 2012
11:47 am
Of course I say that hoping beyond hope that they do not offer Bourn a massive contract. 1 year/12.5M, that’s perfectly fine. multiple years at 12.5+? terrible, terrible, terrible move.
DS1
August 1st, 2012
11:48 am
Lew
We have a lot of raises coming due in the next couple of years. If it means having to deal any of our youngsters (Prado, Heyward, Freeman, Hanson, Medlen, Kimbrel, etc.) to get a big contract player, I’d prefer to take a pass.
Gotta head out for now.
Bo Graves!
Puma
August 1st, 2012
11:48 am
That BrandonLee posting was bizarre – that could not be for real. Who writes like that unless they are a schizoid or something
TennesseePaul
August 1st, 2012
11:49 am
But maybe we can get Shields for Evan Gattis…
Seriously dude, I’m starting to question your ability to analyze prospects. Gattis is a once in a 5 generation talent. For him it’d be Longoria, Shields and Zobrist, plus cash.
TennesseePaul
August 1st, 2012
11:50 am
…Or, if the Rays were lucky enough to have him, simply Jason Heyward straight up.
ncscoots
August 1st, 2012
11:50 am
I think it’s great having Bourn at the top of the order and having his glove in center. Hard to replace that combo.
Don’t need to replace both. I’d be more concerned about the glove than the bat, because Prado can always lead off.
The more important OF position will be LF. Imperative that the Braves replace some of the offense that Chipper is generating this year, and moreso if Bourn is replaced by a lesser bat.
I know Meds dominated in his outing last night, I didn’t think Scoots would take it so hard
Oh, did Medlen pitch last night?
TennesseePaul
August 1st, 2012
11:51 am
Oh, did Medlen pitch last night?
Why of course he did. That’s why the team is on a season high winning streak and matching feats only accomplished by a World Series winning team. ( :
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 1st, 2012
11:51 am
Oh, just realized (for all you Frank Wren bashers)…. the Braves are the only NL East team who added at the deadline… We made ourselves better, Mets/Marlins made themselves worse, and the Nats stood pat. We seem to be in a good position to catch the Nats.
TennesseePaul
August 1st, 2012
11:52 am
The more important OF position will be LF. Imperative that the Braves….[get a left fielder].”
History states: Not. Going. To. Happen.
raleighbravefan
August 1st, 2012
11:53 am
10Paul – And we’d be doing TB a favor, at that!
ncscoots
August 1st, 2012
11:54 am
Why of course he did. That’s why the team is on a season high winning streak and matching feats only accomplished by a World Series winning team
Ah. I see. Well, that’s good to know, and I can sleep easy when The Waterbug is toeing the slab, LOL.
Puma
August 1st, 2012
11:56 am
Bourn won’t be back. There just aren’t that many true leadoff guys around anymore. And to the Braves and their mid-level budget, its not worth putting 15-20% of their budget towards a leadoff hitter.
What will be interesting is what the Phillies do with Halladay, Hamels and Lee – those 3 alone will be making between 60-70 mill a year. That is nuts! I assume one has got to go, and I think Halladay is a free agent after 2013. So it’s probably Lee, but who wants that contract.
Lew
August 1st, 2012
11:56 am
TenPaul – So what do you think? Can they afford to sign one $15 mil player, two, or none at all?
TennesseePaul
August 1st, 2012
11:57 am
Well, that’s good to know, and I can sleep easy when The Waterbug is toeing the slab…
Meds is a once in a 10 generation talent. He wasn’t traded because the only acceptable player to trade for Meds is already on the team: Jason Heyward.
raleighbravefan
August 1st, 2012
11:57 am
TOBF – Of course, the Phillies are in the first stage of cleaning up their mess, so watch out again in a couple of year. Marlins, on the other hand, are seriously incompetent.
Of course, we are now only 2.5 back, and charging.
TennesseePaul
August 1st, 2012
11:59 am
Can they afford to sign one $15 mil player, two, or none at all?
The certainly can afford to sign a player at that much. Perhaps even more, if reports are accurate.
I warn against signing Bourn to such a contract as he just isn’t that type of player. This wonderful, fantastic, awesome year he is giving the team is his career best year and highly unlikely to ever be repeated.
Lew
August 1st, 2012
12:03 pm
TenPaul – I never said that it would be Bourn they signed for that much (thoiugh it wouldn’t bother me as much as some others here). But I’d bet they do sign at least one player to that kind of deal – maybe even a pitcher.
It will be intersting to see how Sheets pitches the rest of the year and if he does continue to pitch well, what kind of deal they might offer him going forward.
brian
August 1st, 2012
12:03 pm
anybody think the Braves may check on Beckett in the waiver wire trade period?
Hanson for Beckett plus money? Pitching prospect for Beckett plus money??
Could Beckett mature enough to be a good clubhouse guy? Would a change of scenery be a fountain of youth for Beckett?
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 1st, 2012
12:04 pm
Can they afford to sign one $15 mil player
They can afford 1.5 $15 mil players… His name is Zack Greinke
@ approx. 18-20 mil/yr
Lew
August 1st, 2012
12:05 pm
Bourn the past four years -
2009 – .285, .354, .384
2010 – .265, .341, .346
2011 – .294, .349, .386
2012 – .292, .345, .427
Where is this career year we keep hearing about? Must b the HR’s.
raleighbravefan
August 1st, 2012
12:05 pm
MY preseason predictions…revisited:
- Phillies – would fall to 2nd place (old and injured) – I OVERestimated
- Washington – A team on the rise…great (potential) pitching, good talent, good baseball minds runing the team , and money to spend. Long-term dangerous. – I UNDERestimated, although I still expect them to fade some.
- Marlins – Potential mess…plenty of room for melt-down. Way overrated by many. I OVERestimated them.
- Mets – AAA quality bottom feeders – I UNDERestimated, although they are falling fast.
-Braves – I picked to win the division – SPOT ON.
TheOnlyBravesFan
August 1st, 2012
12:06 pm
Could Beckett mature enough to be a good clubhouse guy? Would a change of scenery be a fountain of youth for Beckett?
Maybe he could mature and get better, but I’d rather not have the Braves be the lab room for it… the guy is 32 and declining lately…. No thanks.
richbrave
August 1st, 2012
12:07 pm
DOWN ON THE FARM
GWINNETT
Some stellar pitching, and solid attack lead to a 7-2 thrashing of the CHARLOTTE club by the G-Men.
Lead-off CF FELIX PIE [.299 BA] 3-4, 2 R, 3 RBI [40], 1 BB.
SS JOSH WILSON [.254 BA] 3-5, 1 2B [26], 3 RBI [38].
DH ERNESTO MEJIA [.308 BA] 1-5, 2 SO.
LF STEF GARTRELL [.269 BA] 1-4.
2B BRIAN FRIDAY [.230 BA] 1-3, 2 R, 1 BB.
1B TERRY TIFFEE [.341 BA] 1-4, 2 SO.
C J.C. BOSCAN [.196 BA], RF JOSH KROEGER [.241 BA], and 3B RUBEN GOTAY [.218 BA] each have o’fer nights, but score a run apiece off walks.
RHSP RANDALL DELGADO [W 2-1, 4.32 ERA] 6.0 IP, 5 H, 1 R/ER, 3 BB, 10 SO.
Nice! Obviously wants back in ATLANTA, and he’ll be back soon if he keeps this up.
RHRP ]AussieANDY’ RUSSELL [H 1, 2.70 ERA] 1.0 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 0 ER.
LHRP DUSTY HUGHES [H 5, 3.66 ERA] 1.0 IP, zeros, 1 SO.
RHRP ANTHONY VARVARO [3.10 ERA] 1.0 IP, zeros, 1 BB, 3 SO.
richbrave
August 1st, 2012
12:12 pm
When do we get to test drive the shiney new MAHOLM?? I understand it’s not a luxery-model, but a great mid-sized sedan, very reliable, and good on gas-milage too!
unbelievable
August 1st, 2012
12:18 pm
Where is this career year we keep hearing about? Must b the HR’s.- Lew
Dont think we’ve been hearing that as much lately. It was more in June when he was carrying a .320/.372/.469 line. Maybe he’s just bringing his price down for us
Patrick
August 1st, 2012
12:21 pm
Not sure if anyone has posted this yet, but I thought some on here will find it interesting news.
Neftali Feliz is headed for Tommy John surgery.
Lew
August 1st, 2012
12:32 pm
unbelieveable – Well, I think we heard it earlier today (most definitely yesterday). That’s why you decide if it was a career year AFTER the season ends and all the facts are in and not half way through.
Bayou Brave
August 1st, 2012
12:32 pm
Wow, no Brave has as many as 8 ABs against any of the next 5 starting pitchers they are scheduled to face.
Shaun
August 1st, 2012
12:33 pm
Bourn the past four years -
2009 – .285, .354, .384
2010 – .265, .341, .346
2011 – .294, .349, .386
2012 – .292, .345, .427
Where is this career year we keep hearing about? Must b the HR’s.
2012 clearly stands out on this list as the best season, ergo a career year.
Yes, it is mostly because of an increase in power.
monty
August 1st, 2012
12:34 pm
Maholm on Friday I believe.