Braves pull up pants and end long Monday skid
Whether it was wearing their pant legs rolled up to their knees, having Chipper Jones on Twitter, or Tommy Hanson taking his recent serendipity to the mound, the Braves finally ended their Monday curse.
After totaling just 18 runs while losing their first 12 Monday games this season, the Braves scored six in the first five innings of an 8-2 win against the Miami Marlins to open a four-game series Monday night at Turner Field.
It was the sixth consecutive win for the surging Braves, but their first Monday win since Aug. 22, 2011. They snapped an inexplicable streak of 16 consecutive Monday losses that included four during their September collapse.
“I think it was eight runs and 13 hits,” Jones said, laughing when asked whether it was the exposed socks or his Twitter status that was the curse-breaker. “For whatever reason we leave the bats at home on Mondays and I think everybody was a little tired of hearing about it so we played well tonight.”
Jason Heyward’s third-inning homer — his 17th of the season and second in two days — gave the Braves a 1-0 lead they never relinquished.
They scored four runs with two out in the fifth – a two-run double by Dan Uggla and two-run pinch single by Juan Francisco — to open a 6-1 lead and remained unbeaten since the 40-year-old third baseman became a social media maven.
That might be stretching it a bit, but Jones surprised everyone last week when he started a Twitter account — @RealCJ10 — in order to diffuse some bogus accounts others had set up with his name attached. Next thing he knew, old “Battle Axe” was having fun communicating with his many Twitter followers.
In a tweet Monday, he wrote: Monday bloody Monday! 0 fer 2012 on Mon and 5-0 on the twitta. Something has to give folks!
The Braves won for the 16th time in 21 games – and sixth in six with Jones on Twitter — to move to a season-high 14 games over .500 (58-44). They pulled to within 3-1/2 games of National League East leader Washington, which didn’t play Monday.
“It took 12 games to figure out it was just the socks?” Braves manager Fredi Gonzalez joked. “No it wasn’t [my idea]. I don’t even know who it was, but whoever came up with it took a little bit too long to hang onto this thing.”
It was Jones’ suggestion that the team wear its pant bottoms up to the knees, old-school style with exposed socks. The only Brave who didn’t wear them up was Hanson, whose pant bottoms were down to his shoetops, like most players wear them these days.
“I didn’t really know until I was walking out [on the field], so they told me don’t worry about it,” Hanson said of his teammates. “My pants are all stretched out at the bottom anyway so…. I didn’t want to have to worry about my pants while I was trying not to walk seven guys.”
Hanson (12-5) worked out of early jams and allowed one run on six hits and three walks in five innings. This after beating the Marlins Wednesday when he allowed seven walks and seven stolen bases in five innings, but only one run.
The Marlins again littered the bases early against Hanson, who left the bases loaded in a scoreless second inning and left two on in a scoreless third. After stealing seven bases in eight tries against Hanson and catcher Brian McCann on Wednesday, the Marlins stole two in three attempts in the first three innings Monday.
After the first three innings, Hanson in his past eight innings – all against Miami — had allowed six hits (four doubles), 10 walks, nine stolen bases … but only one run.
In his past 10 starts before Monday, he was 6-1 despite a 4.95 ERA. The Braves scored five or more runs while he was in six of those games, and did again Monday.
“Finally got us win on a Monday,” said Hanson, who had only one “clean” inning with no walks or hits. “I’d love some more clean ones. It’s been a battle lately, but I felt a lot better with my fastball command today so hopefully I can just keep moving forward and keep getting better.”
He worked a perfect fourth inning before the Marlins scored on Jose Reyes’ RBI double in the fifth to cut the lead to 2-1. Martin Prado made a diving attempt and came up with the ball, but had trapped it.
Carlos Lee followed with a single to left field and speedy Reyes tested Prado’s arm. He came up firing and threw a perfect strike to McCann, who tagged Reyes to prevent the tying run.
“I didn’t think he had a snowball’s chance in hell to throw that guy out,” Jones said, “but he never quit on the play and made a throw right on the money. Mac [had a] great deek at home plate. And a great pick and put the tag down. So that was a momentum-shifter. That ties the game and who knows might get Tommy out of the game at that point. Kept us on top and we were able to chip away and finally put it away.”
The Braves blew the game open against left-hander Mark Buehrle (9-10) in the fifth. Heyward hit a leadoff single and Freddie Freeman doubled off the right-center wall to put two in scoring position with one out. After McCann walked, the slumping Uggla hit a bases-loaded double that bounced past left fielder Bryan Peterson, bringing in two runs.
One out later, Francisco pinch-hit for Hanson and hit a two-run single against Carlos Zambrano.
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TheOnlyBravesFan
July 30th, 2012
10:09 pm
It’s the Chippa being on Twitter!
Ken Stallings
July 30th, 2012
10:09 pm
An excellent victory to put the Monday blues to rest!
Ken Stallings
July 30th, 2012
10:14 pm
Hanson is still the weakest pitcher on the starting staff, which by itself says how strong the starting rotation is. Kris Medlin will get his start tomorrow and if he performs as I suspect, with the kind of pinpoint control that I saw from him in his last long relief performance, then the Braves have a starting staff that rivals the Washington Nationals.
Uggla got a timely 2-RBI double to give the Braves some margin for victory and it was a good sign, but he has to achieve a lot more to get back to the kind of form that would earn his enviable salary — the highest second baseman income in the NL! I hope he does, but he has to gain consistency at the plate also.
I don’t know if the Braves can catch the Nationals. The Nats are likely the best team in the NL and perhaps a rival for the Yankees for best team in baseball now. But, the Braves do appear to have the right mixture to make the wildcard and with the depth in starting pitching they seem to have now, it won’t matter as much who’s time it is in the rotation to win that single elimination game. Then, in a short series, baseball becomes that game of chance and the Braves would have as much chance as any team.
Felix
July 30th, 2012
10:23 pm
Janish with the girlie swing hits better than the “power hitting” Uggla.
Quicherbichin
July 30th, 2012
10:31 pm
And any commenter here, with the possible exception of Loosing Managar = Loosing Record is a better commenter than the clueless Felix.
TXBrave
July 30th, 2012
10:32 pm
There is a lot of talk about the Dodgers and Cubs working on a trade that includes both Dempster and Soriano. It sure seems like that would be a great option for the Braves too. If they could move Soriano to left and Prado to second, they would give us more value on a day to day basis. Even the biggest Uggla fan around has to realize that the guy is wildly overrated and needs to sit for awhile. Dempster could also stabilize the rotation even if it is only for 10-12 starts over the balance of the season.
Tampa Gator
July 30th, 2012
10:35 pm
We are World Series bound!
Larry
July 30th, 2012
10:35 pm
Dan was the only player that made an out that did not strike out at least once! I gotta strong feeling on Mr Uggla.
Mike from the coast
July 30th, 2012
10:37 pm
Fingers crossed here, but Uggla looked much better at the plate. Even fouled off several pitches instead of wild swings and misses.
Larry
July 30th, 2012
10:37 pm
Guess I should say hitter.
Smitty
July 30th, 2012
10:38 pm
I like braves schedule for the streak run
Chief Knock-A-Homa
July 30th, 2012
10:40 pm
Reed Johnson traded but we don’t know to who yet… Could fit have been the Braves for the bench help we need???
Tom
July 30th, 2012
10:43 pm
13th
Big Country
July 30th, 2012
10:46 pm
Fransisco is a beast, the kid can just flat out hit. Can’t wait til next year when he has a full year under his belt.
BrandonLee49
July 30th, 2012
10:46 pm
Dempster couldn’t Stabalize the End of the Bench, unless he ate a few moe Pancakes before coming in…. Medlin and Minor are solid ends of a Strong Front end Starting Staff… Hitters have to Hit; like they proved Tonight They CAN, and Pitching will be Fine. Let the Dodgers have Big Mouth Hanley, The Angels Land Greinke, and Dempster can stay Put, along with Josh Johnson. No Sense in Mailing out the Future for Mediocrity.And It Happened on a Monday… Congrats, Braves you broke the Jinx !!!
Joel
July 30th, 2012
10:49 pm
@Chief: I sure hope so on the Reed Johnson trade. He would be a great fit.
DOB: do you have any info on the team that acquired Johnson?
kral
July 30th, 2012
10:51 pm
enjoyed it..if you are a BRAVES fan and did not..then blog about it complain about what they need to do..like you really have a clue…ask the marlins..buy buy..in more ways than one …sell sell..oh what the ell..listen to all the blogging gm’s..they loved your moves..sounds like a song…you got to move to follow this rambling blog..but if your smart enough you will get it
Peace
July 30th, 2012
10:53 pm
15th
Peace
July 30th, 2012
10:54 pm
chief
provide a link quit bshyt us
NC BRAVE
July 30th, 2012
10:55 pm
Reed johnson traded to the braves for rev and delgado
kerryb
July 30th, 2012
10:56 pm
MLB Network is reporting that we have traded for Paul Mulholm and Reed Johnson from the Cubs.
NC BRAVE
July 30th, 2012
10:56 pm
Along with dempster
Joel
July 30th, 2012
10:57 pm
MLBTR says the Braves get Reed Johnson and Paul Maholm.
Yogi Berra
July 30th, 2012
10:57 pm
u are right kerryb..deal.
NC
July 30th, 2012
10:58 pm
Espn says delgado and rev are traded
tucker
July 30th, 2012
10:58 pm
Braves acquire Johnson and Maholm from Cubs.
The Dude Abides... Still
July 30th, 2012
10:59 pm
Anyone know definitavely who we sent to the cubs…
DOB do you think you could acutally report it accurately this time?
Joey M
July 30th, 2012
10:59 pm
Braves just traded for Reed Johnson and Paul Maholm. Depending on what we gave up, this could be a “under the radar” move that pushes us past the Nationals.
NC
July 30th, 2012
11:00 pm
Braves To Acquire Reed Johnson, Paul Maholm
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [July 30 at 9:55pm CST]
The Cubs have traded Reed Johnson and Paul Maholm to the Braves, Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports tweets. Four teams made offers for Johnson today, including the Pirates and Tigers, according to Bruce Levine of ESPNChicago.com.
Johnson, 35, has a .307/.361/.452 batting line in 180 plate appearances this year. The right-handed hitter has played all three outfield positions for the Cubs and owns a career .313/.370/.469 line against left-handed pitching. He’s signed to a one-year, $1.15MM contract and will hit free agency after the season.
Geovany Soto has been traded to the Rangers in a separate move.
Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com first reported that Johnson had been traded (on Twitter). Morosi first reported Maholm’s role in the trade and first reported that the Braves were the other team involved.
NC Fan
July 30th, 2012
11:01 pm
Its official delgado and rev,along with jj are gone
EXPERT
July 30th, 2012
11:04 pm
MLB BOWMAN SAYS ITS JJ,REV,AND DELGADO TO THE CUBS
Quack Quack
July 30th, 2012
11:04 pm
I wonder if Tommy has ever heard the saying going around your elbow to get to your thumb??
Great win bravos…Great break of a real stupid streak….Great way to run up the runs….Great way to break Dan’s streak…..;-)
Get out the broom, lets Sweep, Sweep, Sweep!!
GO BRAVES!!!
thetalkingmonkey
July 30th, 2012
11:05 pm
Wow horrible trade by the braves.
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
July 30th, 2012
11:05 pm
Dont know what we gave up for Reed and Maholm but I think that JJ gets traded tommorow (to the Blue Jays) maybe since they are pitching hungry. Probably for a minor leaguer of some kind, plus they need some room on the 40 man roster. I think Medlen’s start is a one timer with the acqusition of Maholm tonight. Plus I think he is too valuable in the bullpen.
Yogi Berra
July 30th, 2012
11:05 pm
Paul Maholm will help being a southpaw. He has pitched great last 4 games.
Ralph
July 30th, 2012
11:05 pm
Is Maholm a rental?
thetalkingmonkey
July 30th, 2012
11:06 pm
LOL! FRANK WREN GM OF THE YEAR!
Braves fan always
July 30th, 2012
11:06 pm
DOB who did we give up or do you even know there was a trade yet?
Brandon
July 30th, 2012
11:06 pm
maholm has an option in 2013 for 6.5 ml
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
July 30th, 2012
11:06 pm
Nevermind
Brandon
July 30th, 2012
11:07 pm
sources on twitter say that the braves traded 2 pitchers not named minor/gilmartin/delgado/teheran
Iknow
July 30th, 2012
11:07 pm
braves traded rev,delgado,jj for johnson and malhorn
WHAT MORE DO U NEED TO KNOW?
GEEZE
kerryb
July 30th, 2012
11:08 pm
Jerry Crasnick with ESPN is saying we are giving up 2 minor league pitchers and they are not Delgado,Minor, Gilmartin or Teheran.
Texas Braves Fan
July 30th, 2012
11:08 pm
Craddock reporting none of the big 4 in the trade!
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
July 30th, 2012
11:08 pm
10:08pm: The Cubs are getting two minor league pitchers in the deal, ESPN.com’s Jerry Crasnick tweets. Mike Minor, Randall Delgado, Julio Teheran and Sean Gilmartin aren’t in the trade
Iknow
July 30th, 2012
11:09 pm
SOURCES……LOL
MY SOURCES SAY JJ AND DELGADO ARE GONE
Mike from the coast
July 30th, 2012
11:09 pm
Hope it’s not Delgado.
Ralph
July 30th, 2012
11:09 pm
I am very happy to get Reed Johnson but very disappointed to lose Delgado. they will regret giving him up for many years to come, good for this year but very bad for the future.
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
July 30th, 2012
11:09 pm
Like I said JJ is going to Toronto, tommorow! Need room on 40 man roster
kerryb
July 30th, 2012
11:10 pm
If Crasnick is right this is a great trade. All the analyst on ESPN say it is the perfect trade for the BRaves. Mulholm is 5-0 with an ERA below 2.00 is his last 7 starts and is the perfect pitcher for Turner Field. Johnson is also a solid rt hand bat off the bench.
Braves fan always
July 30th, 2012
11:10 pm
THE PICS ARE NOT IN DIAZ HANDS ANYMORE,SO LONG LOSER GOOD RIDDANCE
TY FW FOR GETTING THE PICS FROM DPLAY DIAZ
kerryb
July 30th, 2012
11:11 pm
Ralph, Delgado is not in this trade. WE would trade him for Dempster but not Mulholm
Blue ridge Brave
July 30th, 2012
11:12 pm
what a crap trade no matter who we traded. a slap hitting outfielder and a below avg pitcher that will take meds spot. now im done with wren have been in his corner for a while but this is a crap trade and he traded anything decent I will be pissed.
Yogi Berra
July 30th, 2012
11:13 pm
Paul will be back need year unless Braves buy his option for half million. johnson will be FA but would sign probably if wanted back by Braves per 780 pm Alabama Montg.
Braves fan always
July 30th, 2012
11:13 pm
Ralph i dont think delgado is in the trade
Dob where r u at?
Get on this who cares about the post game quotes?
Busch Leaguer
July 30th, 2012
11:14 pm
I doubt the Rev is included unless the Cubs plan to use him in the outfield ,Cubs seem set up the middle with Castro and Barney.
Yogi Berra
July 30th, 2012
11:14 pm
spelling is Maholm
thetalkingmonkey
July 30th, 2012
11:15 pm
Frank Wren was fired from the Orioles for a reason. He makes trades that make no sense. Why wouldn’t you just stick Medlen in the rotation and pickup a reliever?
kerryb
July 30th, 2012
11:15 pm
Blue ridge Brave
July 30th, 2012
11:12 pm
what a crap trade no matter who we traded. a slap hitting outfielder and a below avg pitcher that will take meds spot. now im done with wren have been in his corner for a while but this is a crap trade and he traded anything decent I will be pissed.
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You are going to always have some dumb bell like this with any trade. We got a pitcher that’s suited for the Ted and not Wrigley who is 5-0 in his last 7 starts and a bench hitter hitting .302 this year. We also just gave up 2 minor league pitchers that are not our top 4 guys. Man you’re dumb.
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
July 30th, 2012
11:16 pm
I like the deal. The big power hitter is not coming until the off season, anyway. As much as i love Chipper, he hamstrings us from getting that “big RH Masher” this year to play in LF. Gattis may be there anyway, and they might use the money for Grienke instead.
Braves fan
July 30th, 2012
11:16 pm
Im not believing nothing yet
last week MLBTR SAYS BRAVES ACQUIRED DEMPSTER ALSO,NO ONE HAS YET TO SAY IF THIS TRADE IS A DONE DEAL OR NOT
Busch Leaguer
July 30th, 2012
11:16 pm
Hate it for Medlen ,still should get his start tomorrow night though.
Brandon
July 30th, 2012
11:17 pm
everyone just relax, the trade is pending dempster’s approval
Braves fan
July 30th, 2012
11:18 pm
YOU MUST BE THE ONE THAT ALSO BELIEVES BRAVES WERE INTERESTED IN BECKETT
NO ONE FROM BRAVES ORGANIZATION SAID 2 MINOR LEAGUE PITCHERS WERE INVOLVED
ENOUGH SAID
kerryb
July 30th, 2012
11:18 pm
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
July 30th, 2012
11:16 pm
I like the deal. The big power hitter is not coming until the off season, anyway. As much as i love Chipper, he hamstrings us from getting that “big RH Masher” this year to play in LF. Gattis may be there anyway, and they might use the money for Grienke instead.
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Don’t forget about Lowe’s contract coming off the books next year to. Prado will be moved to 3rd and they will go after a power hitter in LF and try to sign Bourn Back. Bourn is the real priority for next year.
Braves fan
July 30th, 2012
11:19 pm
HEY YOGA BERRE SPELL THIS!@#$%^&
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
July 30th, 2012
11:19 pm
Talking monkey, more like talking Donkey
This is a good deal man, gives Fredi alot of options. Needed a RH bat off the bench. nice deal. Stole Maholm!
Najeh Davenpoop
July 30th, 2012
11:21 pm
Mark Bowman @mlbbowman
That last name was supposed to be Gilmartin. But Minor is also not involved.
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9m Mark Bowman @mlbbowman
Still working on who the Braves used to acquire Maholm and Johnson. It’s not Delgado, Spruill, Teheran or Minor.
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Not Delgado, Teheran, Minor, Gilmartin, or Spruill.
Maybe Vizcaino? Can he be traded?
Busch Leaguer
July 30th, 2012
11:21 pm
Hell I would have settled for just getting Johnson.If Crasnick’s report is true and Delgado is still with the Braves could be best move at the deadline.
Frank Wren
July 30th, 2012
11:21 pm
Hello braves fans like the trade?
To clear things up,delgado,jj were sent to the cubs
Have a nice day
Ralph
July 30th, 2012
11:21 pm
ESPN has said they are giving up 2 minor league pitchers but not high level so that should eliminate Delgado. Anybody but Delgado and I am a happy camper.
Who knows
July 30th, 2012
11:22 pm
jj was traded
kerryb
July 30th, 2012
11:23 pm
Frank Wren
July 30th, 2012
11:21 pm
Hello braves fans like the trade?
To clear things up,delgado,jj were sent to the cubs
Have a nice day
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You’re wrong
Who knows
July 30th, 2012
11:23 pm
Thank god medlen pitches 1 game and thats it
ty wrenn
Largo
July 30th, 2012
11:24 pm
It’s better to be lucky than good. Hanson keeps proving that statement.
Who knows
July 30th, 2012
11:24 pm
AND OF COURSE SINCE DOB REPORTED WRONG LAST TIME,HE IS NOWHERE TO BE SEEN NOW
JC Boscan III
July 30th, 2012
11:25 pm
We have some really good pitchers like JR Graham and Gus Schlosser (28 straight scoreless innings) who are out-pitching Teheran (though at lower levels). I hope it’s neither of them. Spruill would be OK, because he’s another Minor/Gilmartin. Navery Moore would be another decent prospect that could go.
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
July 30th, 2012
11:25 pm
@ kerryb
Exactly right! Use the money to get Bourne and Grienke signed and get a cheap RH “power bat” or use Hanson to get the power bat for LF. With the trade for Maholm, Tommy is expendable in the off-season! Hell I’d be happy with Johnny Gomes in LF! He’s raking in Oakland right now and he comes cheap. Good or 20 Hr and 65 Rbi’s with regular PT!
kerryb
July 30th, 2012
11:25 pm
I like this better than getting Dumpster. Maholm has been giving up nothing where Dempster has started giving up runs right and left.
Yogi Berra
July 30th, 2012
11:25 pm
Braves fan..whats your problem? Most everyone was spelling it wrong.
Its ok but it Yogi not yoga & Berra not Berre..thanks love you to son.
Who knows
July 30th, 2012
11:26 pm
who is spruill?gilmartin was traded cubs not that stupid
ohhhhYEAH
July 30th, 2012
11:27 pm
slap hitting BACK UP outfielder, who provides depth at all three spots. You should probably try to realize we got him as a solid offensive backup and a ridiculous defensive back up should any on of the three need a day off, buddy. Think of him as Paul Yanish for our outfield, and stop tryin to act like its crap. We needed depth defensively in the OF, Hinske is just too immobile. Maybe we shouldnt have given up JJ AND Delgado, but you gotta give to get.
Texas Braves Fan
July 30th, 2012
11:27 pm
Jaye Chapman in trade
Who knows
July 30th, 2012
11:28 pm
Maholm will be signed next year beachy wont be back till mid 2013 if then.
FRANK WRENN SAID THAT ANY PITCHER THEY GET WILL NOT BE A RENTAL.
DONT YOU GUYS EVER LISTEN?
Najeh Davenpoop
July 30th, 2012
11:29 pm
Jerry Crasnick @jcrasnick
Pitcher Jaye Chapman is one of the players going from #Braves to #Cubs in Maholm-Johnson deal, source says.
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Yogi Berra
July 30th, 2012
11:29 pm
Paul is hitting 307…Yeah
Who knows
July 30th, 2012
11:30 pm
MEDLEN 1 AND DONE AS A STARTER T GOD
Tampa Gator
July 30th, 2012
11:31 pm
How come no major network of site is reporting any of this trade talk……no mention of a Braves-Cubs trade anywhere. It is not April first…….
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
July 30th, 2012
11:31 pm
Jaye Chapman going to the Cubs
Who knows
July 30th, 2012
11:31 pm
Jerry Crasnick @jcrasnick
Pitcher Jaye Chapman is one of the players going from #Braves to #Cubs in Maholm-Johnson deal, source says.
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SHUTOUTS THE BRAVES NEXT YEAR
GILMARTIN WAS INCLUDED
ohhhhYEAH
July 30th, 2012
11:32 pm
@ who knows
Thank God Medlen is only starting one game? Dude, do you not rememebr how nasty he was for us at the end of the rotation before he had surgery in ‘10? Have you not seen his past two games where hes thrown two and three great innings? Get off that crack pipe friend, Medlen has been our best option for the #5 spot and possibly the #4 spot all season, they were just too stupid to see it until just now.
Tampa Gator
July 30th, 2012
11:32 pm
ESPN just mentioned it….sorry.
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
July 30th, 2012
11:32 pm
Lot of talk about trade on MLB Network!
The Dude Abides... Still
July 30th, 2012
11:33 pm
Who is the Rev?
Keith
July 30th, 2012
11:33 pm
Although It’s not ideal (I would have rather had a starter), I do like the LH reliever and evidently this Reed Johnson will be decent off the bench and plays good defense.
Go BRAVES!
thetalkingmonkey
July 30th, 2012
11:34 pm
Paul Maholm is a started you idiot.
IFTS
July 30th, 2012
11:34 pm
How come no major network of site is reporting any of this trade talk……no mention of a Braves-Cubs trade anywhere. It is not April first…….
YOU MUST NOT HAVE CABLE…DID THE GATOR EAT IT??LOLOL
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
July 30th, 2012
11:34 pm
The trade is a steal in my opinion! JJ is gone tommorow for minr leaguer!
ohhhhYEAH
July 30th, 2012
11:34 pm
Keith,
Maholm is a starter bud……pretty solid one too
Keith
July 30th, 2012
11:35 pm
Re: the talking monkey
No, he’s a reliever. Check your facts and attitude.
JC Boscan III
July 30th, 2012
11:35 pm
the Rev = Pastornicky…
Keith
July 30th, 2012
11:35 pm
If he is, I read it wrong…
Texas Braves Fan
July 30th, 2012
11:35 pm
Vizcaino other guy
Tampa Gator
July 30th, 2012
11:36 pm
MLB reports it only as a rumor…they say no confirmation on trades until Tuesday.
Najeh Davenpoop
July 30th, 2012
11:36 pm
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
Source: Vizcaino and Chapman to #Cubs for Maholm and Johnson.
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Who knows
July 30th, 2012
11:36 pm
OOO YEAH
MEDLEN IS 1 GAME STARTER AND THATS IT
IF YOU CAN READ,READ THE BLOG FROM DAILY DOB
ERA OF 3.65 YEAH HE REALLY BLAZING IN 2010
IDIOTS
ohhhhYEAH
July 30th, 2012
11:37 pm
Then you read it wrong. His last 5 STARTS, he has gone like 3-0 with a 1.00 ERA. “starts” being the key word
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
July 30th, 2012
11:37 pm
Medlen is a better reliever than starter right now, more valuable anyway! And he is a damn good starter! Maholm is an awesome 3rd or 4th starter.
Huddy
Hanson
Maholm
Sheets
Minor
Pretty damn good. Better than most
The Dude Abides... Still
July 30th, 2012
11:37 pm
OH Shoot… I think I figured out who the rev is… Pastornicky?
Quack Quack
July 30th, 2012
11:38 pm
Chicago Tribune reports trades made, however no word who we gave up. They say report is from the AJC. So, DOB please tell us the real deal…..
Who knows
July 30th, 2012
11:38 pm
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
Source: Vizcaino and Delgado to #Cubs for Maholm and Johnson.
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thought so
ohhhhYEAH
July 30th, 2012
11:38 pm
Who knows
Clearly YOU…dont. 3.65 era is actually not bad, especially for a back of the rotation guy. Do you know anything about baseball? or are you just pretending to know so someone will finally pay you some attention? Idiot
higg papi
July 30th, 2012
11:39 pm
Vizcaino, chapman. Very concerned about the loss of Vizcaino. Fortunately, he has gone from a starting pitching prospect to a relief pitching prospect, so no worries about losing a future ace.
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
July 30th, 2012
11:39 pm
Chapman and Viscaino, i’ll buy that. Good deal all around!
Braves fan always
July 30th, 2012
11:39 pm
i heard it was delgado rosenthal said it was
thetalkingmonkey
July 30th, 2012
11:40 pm
NOOOOOOOO VIZCIANO IS GONE!
Joey M
July 30th, 2012
11:40 pm
I would like to see us trade for Broxton. We get him to help in the pen and we will run away with this.
Keith
July 30th, 2012
11:40 pm
Yes, apologies, I did read it incorrectly.
It’s not stellar, but he’s been hot the last 7 starts so we’ll see!
GO BRAVES!
kerryb
July 30th, 2012
11:40 pm
ohhhhYEAH
July 30th, 2012
11:38 pm
Who knows
Clearly YOU…dont. 3.65 era is actually not bad, especially for a back of the rotation guy. Do you know anything about baseball? or are you just pretending to know so someone will finally pay you some attention? Idiot
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Of course you have to factor in that he was pitching at Wrigley. Turner field is a more pitcher friendly ball park
BravesFaninBama
July 30th, 2012
11:40 pm
I sure wish I could block some of you idiots. Stop spewing out random garbage. Just post the real facts and not your BS!
Tampa Gator
July 30th, 2012
11:40 pm
IFTS…..
No…still have cable…..but a Gator did eat a dog in Tampa today…..really….a dog really got chomped by a Gator (got too close to some fresh water). Dog always tastes good to a Gator. (Feel sorry for the dude whose dog got chomped…however. But never let your dog get too close to fresh water in Florida….most of the time….it becomes dinner.
Braves fan always
July 30th, 2012
11:41 pm
Who knows
July 30th, 2012
11:38 pm
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
Source: Vizcaino and Delgado to #Cubs for Maholm and Johnson.
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thought so
it says here delgado so why u saying vizcanio
FUNNY HOW NO ONE FROM THE AJC OR BRAVES ORGANIZATION WILL COMFIRM OR DENY THE TRADE
kerryb
July 30th, 2012
11:42 pm
Crasnick just tweeted that it was Viscaino. Surprised the Cubs would make a deal for a guy who just had Tommy John surgery.
Tampa Gator
July 30th, 2012
11:42 pm
……(most of the time it becomes dinner)…..sort of like the Dawg-Gators serioes since 1990. Chomp…ummmm…tastes good…..I think I will take another big Dawg bite in 2012…..Gator says.
Grandma Giffin
July 30th, 2012
11:43 pm
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
Vizcaino had Tommy John in spring training, but last season was one of #Braves’ big four untouchable pitching prospects. #Cubs
Grandma Giffin
July 30th, 2012
11:43 pm
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
Source: Vizcaino and Chapman to #Cubs for Maholm and Johnson.
kerryb
July 30th, 2012
11:43 pm
Braves fan always
July 30th, 2012
11:41 pm
Who knows
July 30th, 2012
11:38 pm
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
Source: Vizcaino and Delgado to #Cubs for Maholm and Johnson.
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thought so
it says here delgado so why u saying vizcanio
FUNNY HOW NO ONE FROM THE AJC OR BRAVES ORGANIZATION WILL COMFIRM OR DENY THE TRADE
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Jerry Crasnick with ESPN is saying it was Chapman and Vizcaino. Not Delgado, Gilmartin, Minor or Teheran
ohhhhYEAH
July 30th, 2012
11:43 pm
kerrb
I was referring to medlen with that post because the moron above said a 3.65 era was apparently awful.
But yes, completely agree with you that Maholm will be good for us now that hes in a bigger park and a better hitting team. One or zero earned runs in his last 7, pretty darn good.
Supergolf
July 30th, 2012
11:43 pm
Gevona Soto was traded not delgado
Braves fan always
July 30th, 2012
11:44 pm
Tampa gator enjoy medlen tomorrow as a starter
unless someone gets hurt,thats the last you see him as a starter this year
durrtydogg
July 30th, 2012
11:44 pm
Mark Bowman @mlbbowman
As @Ken_Rosenthal first reported, Arodys Vizcaino will be going to the Cubs with Jaye Chapman
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
July 30th, 2012
11:44 pm
Yorvit Torrealba DFA’ed after the G. Soto trade. Look for Yorvit to go back to SF so that Posey can play 1B for the rest of the year!
The Dude Abides... Still
July 30th, 2012
11:44 pm
OK… so Vizcaino and Chapman for Maholm and Reed. That works for me. I hope Vizcaino recovers from his TJ surgery and does well in Chicago but I think its a good move for the braves.
Chip is a mutt
July 30th, 2012
11:45 pm
It’s pretty pathetic that everyone is reporting this trade and we have yet to get a comment or story from the Braves beat writer. Wtf! Tell us who was in the trade or if you don’t know then tell us that you don’t know or can’t say. Better than ignoring it. Morons.
Braves fan always
July 30th, 2012
11:45 pm
Still waiting for someone from the braves to confirm this,no some beat writer who works for espn looking for ratings
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
July 30th, 2012
11:45 pm
Soto was traded to Rangers moving Napoli into DH role with Moreland!
Ralph
July 30th, 2012
11:46 pm
Texas Braves Fan
July 30th, 2012
11:35 pm
Vizcaino other guy
I may be wrong but I don’t think you can trade a player who is on the DL.
Blue ridge Brave
July 30th, 2012
11:46 pm
Kerryb. Unlike you i watch baseball and dont just look at stats. His avg fastball is 87. Just how many pitchers have sustained success. He is a back end of the rotation pitch at best and i had rather and medlin in the rotation and pick up bull pin help. Also about johnson im sure all the nl will be scared to death to see him pinch hitting in the ninth. I want power on the bench not a slap hitting outfielder with little power or speed. He is by no means a great defensive outfielder and would not take the place of any of the guys we already have. You sir or dear or young man on your dads computer have no clue what you are talking about,
Keith
July 30th, 2012
11:46 pm
Definitely NOT Delgado.
Win for Wren and Braves.
Joey M
July 30th, 2012
11:46 pm
Jaye Chapman and Arodys Vizcaino for Paul Molholm and Reed Johnson. We really didn’t give up much of anything. Vizcaino had Tommy-John surgery so the Cubs are going to have to be patient with him. This is a good trade.
Remember folks, the alternative was Randal Delgado for Ryan Dempster. That deal would have sucked bad.
Keith
July 30th, 2012
11:46 pm
Also, Cubs won’t confirm trades till tomorrow. We’ll have to wait.
Grandma Giffin
July 30th, 2012
11:47 pm
Maybe they are working on a quick article, Chip is a Mutt.
kerryb
July 30th, 2012
11:47 pm
If you look at who we gave up this was a great trade by Wren. A back of the bullpen guy and an injured pitcher for a solid left handed starter and a good right handed bat off the bench and backup outfielder.
Keith
July 30th, 2012
11:47 pm
Re: Chip is a mutt.
Do you read the tweets from DOB?
durrtydogg
July 30th, 2012
11:47 pm
Please, please somebody take JJ!!
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
July 30th, 2012
11:48 pm
I think Garza may go to Toronto as well. They are desperate for pitching. Orioles may be an option as well.
The Dude Abides... Still
July 30th, 2012
11:48 pm
I totally agree with Joey. Plus I doubt the braves are done with working on the Pen or another bench spot.
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
July 30th, 2012
11:50 pm
Think JJ is going to Toronto tommorow. Will be comfortable with KJ and Yunel up the middle!
thetalkingmonkey
July 30th, 2012
11:50 pm
Braves got fleeced. This just may be a better return, relatively speaking, than the Demp/Delgado fiasco for the Cubs. Theo does it again!
Rayman
July 30th, 2012
11:50 pm
Or maybe he wants to be accurate instead of FIRST!
Chip is a mutt
July 30th, 2012
11:51 pm
If it is Vizcaino in the trade it is a bad move unless the Braves medical people don’t think he can comeback from the surgery. Maholm is a journeyman and Reed Johnson is a backup outfielder. No way I would give up Vizcaino for that assuming he returns healthy. Neither of these guys will put the Braves over the top.
thetalkingmonkey
July 30th, 2012
11:51 pm
Where is David O’Brien? Oh he’s probably out being a hipster.
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
July 30th, 2012
11:52 pm
10:41pm: Arodys Vizcaino, who had Tommy John surgery this spring, is the other player going to Chicago, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports reports (on Twitter).
kerryb
July 30th, 2012
11:52 pm
All of you Medlin lovers need your head examined. I like Medlin too but I would rather have an established starter than a guy starting for the first time in 2 years. Medlin has not been all that great as a long reliever this year. You’re basing this love for Medlin as a starter on what he did 2 years ago and there’s no guarantee he will be that good. He wasn’t when they sent him down to be a starter. I want the lefty that’s 5-0 in his last seven starters with a 1.50 ERA. Not the experiment.
Tampa Gator
July 30th, 2012
11:53 pm
I believe the only way you can trade a player on the DL is to trade him….as a “player to be named later”…..do an exam when he is healthy….and substitute another player if the other team rejects him. So the Braves probably will get the two players for one or more named players….and a player to be named later.
Tampa Gator
July 30th, 2012
11:53 pm
I believe the only way you can trade a player on the DL is to trade him….as a “player to be named later”…..do an exam when he is healthy….and substitute another player if the other team rejects him. So the Braves probably will get the two players for one or more named players….and a player to be named later.
Blue ridge Brave
July 30th, 2012
11:53 pm
Again Vizcaino will be one of those guys guys we say why did we put this guy in a trade. I cant believe we traded this kid I know he is hurt bud he was a top 50 prospect in ALL of baseball and will just as so many other pitchers have come back as strong or stronger from tommy john. Oh well go braves lets win these next six and put some heat on the nats.
Thewyzyrd
July 30th, 2012
11:53 pm
Rosenthal says its Vizcaino
The Dude Abides... Still
July 30th, 2012
11:53 pm
Hey Monkey… So what players from the braves system would you have traded for those two? What would you have done?
Thewyzyrd
July 30th, 2012
11:53 pm
Enter your comments here
ohhhhYEAH
July 30th, 2012
11:53 pm
Blue Ridge
Are you mentally unstable? Reed Johnson is QUITE fast, and plays the outfield especially well bud. I dont know if you are arguing just for arguments sake or what, but you may want to let this one go before you embarrass yourself
Tampa Gator
July 30th, 2012
11:53 pm
I believe the only way you can trade a player on the DL is to trade him….as a “player to be named later”…..do an exam when he is healthy….and substitute another player if the other team rejects him. So the Braves probably will get the two players for one or more named players….and a player to be named later.
FOCOBRAVES
July 30th, 2012
11:53 pm
“His avg fastball is 87. Just how many pitchers have sustained success”
And you call yourself a braves fan? Maddux’s fastball was around the same range and If my memory is right he was a decent pitcher for us. It doesn’t matter how hard you throw Medlan can paint the corners and rarely walks anyone. And when you can do that and have great off speed stuff… You’re hard to hit.
FOCOBRAVES
July 30th, 2012
11:53 pm
“His avg fastball is 87. Just how many pitchers have sustained success”
And you call yourself a braves fan? Maddux’s fastball was around the same range and If my memory is right he was a decent pitcher for us. It doesn’t matter how hard you throw Medlan can paint the corners and rarely walks anyone. And when you can do that and have great off speed stuff… You’re hard to hit.
Chip is a mutt
July 30th, 2012
11:54 pm
Keith. No I don’t read his tweets unless they are on the AJC Sports page. How hard is it for him to post a quick comment in this blog if they are actually working on a story?
thetalkingmonkey
July 30th, 2012
11:54 pm
I would have just put in Medlen in JJs spot and pickup a reliever. Trading Viz is a horrible move.
Keith
July 30th, 2012
11:55 pm
Re: kerryb
You’re probably going to be right – a proven starter who’s hot vs Medlen who has been great in the pen but unproven this year as a SP.
But we will see!!
Go BRAVES!
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
July 30th, 2012
11:55 pm
Medlen is just more valuable as a reliever right now. One of the better bridge guys in the league. Rather have him in during a tied game in 6th or 7th than any of our other relievers. Maybe EOF (Irish) is the exception.
Keith
July 30th, 2012
11:56 pm
Re: chip is a mutt
Maybe he’s working on it now. Who knows?
Go BRAVES
thetalkingmonkey
July 30th, 2012
11:56 pm
I would have much rather just did nothing at the deadline. We are playing very well right now and if we did deal trade for a bench bat and a BP arm.
Blue ridge Brave
July 30th, 2012
11:56 pm
Maddux was 93 to 94 in his prime and one of the best in the history of baseball which would be part of the how many you have used a hof for your example good job.
kerryb
July 30th, 2012
11:56 pm
Blue ridge Brave
July 30th, 2012
11:46 pm
Kerryb. Unlike you i watch baseball and dont just look at stats. His avg fastball is 87. Just how many pitchers have sustained success. He is a back end of the rotation pitch at best and i had rather and medlin in the rotation and pick up bull pin help. Also about johnson im sure all the nl will be scared to death to see him pinch hitting in the ninth. I want power on the bench not a slap hitting outfielder with little power or speed. He is by no means a great defensive outfielder and would not take the place of any of the guys we already have. You sir or dear or young man on your dads computer have no clue what you are talking about,
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Hey ding dong, my Dad’s been dead for 15 years and I probably have a son your age and have probably watched baseball for longer than you have been shaving. And also to enlighten you some. teams don;t back deadline trades for power hitters that sit on the bench. The BRaves were looking for a guy to replace Diaz and that’s what they got. Johnson has a career .283 average and is hitting .302 this year. You want the bat off your bench to get the big hit with a runner in scoring position. Not a power hitter who may strike out in that situation.
Blue ridge Brave
July 30th, 2012
11:59 pm
reed johnson has stolen 41 bases in over 1000 games quite fast indeed.
Keith
July 30th, 2012
11:59 pm
Re: the talking monkey
I guess they will see it is
Now:
Medlen is the arm in the BP that stays
We get a starter who’s a lefty and HOT
And Reed off the bench.
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
July 30th, 2012
11:59 pm
Looks like Garza maybe headed to Reds! Theo is dealing!
Keith
July 30th, 2012
11:59 pm
*see it as
ohhhhYEAH
July 31st, 2012
12:00 am
Putting Medlen in the rotation doesnt hurt us as much as you people make it out to. After all, we have Cristhian Martinez, who is actually our long reliever, and has looked very good for the last couple months. And if Venters can actualyl be as good as he has been since coming back, losing Medlen to the rotation isnt a big deal at all
Grandma Giffin
July 31st, 2012
12:00 am
Or maybe DOB is riding the chopper home, Can’t exactly write an article while on that thing.
Blue ridge Brave
July 31st, 2012
12:00 am
sorry about your dad my friend a childish comment on my end.
kerryb
July 31st, 2012
12:01 am
Blue Ridge, you are proving that you know nothing at all. Greg Maddux only dreamed of hitting 93 or 94 on the gun. His best fastball may have been 90-91. Now, your Momma is calling you because it’s past your bedtime. Get off the basement computer.
K-man
July 31st, 2012
12:01 am
Jaye Chapman and Aroldys Viscaino were dealt to the Cubs, per Ken Rosenthal of MLB Networker.
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
July 31st, 2012
12:01 am
Wren did a hell of a job getting Maholm & Reed only giving up Viz and Chapman! Congrats!
Brave Decisions
July 31st, 2012
12:02 am
Breaking down RJ/PM trade. http://wp.me/p2lqJ1-bG
Keith
July 31st, 2012
12:02 am
Re: OhhhYEAH
Yeah, while Medlen isn’t as proven cause we haven’t seen him…I’ll admit I was VERY EXCITED about seeing him start.
What happens if Medlen rocks it?! Replacing Hanson? A nice dilemma indeed.
The Teacher
July 31st, 2012
12:02 am
Enter your comments here
Tampa Gator
July 31st, 2012
12:03 am
“Medlin has not been all that great as a long reliever this year. You’re basing this love for Medlin as a starter on what he did 2 years ago and there’s no guarantee he will be that good.”
@KerryB……
Here are Medlen’s (with an E) current stats…
1-1 record
2.48 ERA
38 games pitched
54 innings pitched
46 hits allowed
13 walks in 54 innings
36 strikeouts in 54 innings
I would say those are fairly great numbers for a middle to long reliever.
durrtydogg
July 31st, 2012
12:03 am
I hate giving up Viz but hey Im not mad at this trade. Malholm has an option for next year so if he does his thing, we can pick it up. He has an almost 50% ground ball rate which will bode well in our ball park. Johnson is hitting real well and he is a very decent defensive outfielder. Plus our bench sucks so his 300 avg will certainly help out. I dont care if he doesnt yank it out the park. Most of the time when we pinch hit, its because runners are on base so a few line drive singles should produce a few runs. Decent trade without giving up too much. I know Viz will do well. Keep in mind though he has been traded twice in his young career and now he will be coming off tommy john.
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
July 31st, 2012
12:03 am
Medlen is just a better reliever than SP right now. Medlen is the Prado of the pitching staff, as one of my fellow posters said last week!
Blue ridge Brave
July 31st, 2012
12:04 am
ohhhhyeah. Med will now no longer be in the rotation speaking of arguing for arguing sake.
Don
July 31st, 2012
12:04 am
who is rev
Grandma Giffin
July 31st, 2012
12:04 am
Keith – As much as I would love to see Medlen shine tomorrow, it is hard to imagine him taking over Hanson’s spot.
Keith
July 31st, 2012
12:04 am
Yep, right now with the Sheets find and signing and this deal, Wren could be GM of the year if we make playoffs.
Grandma Giffin
July 31st, 2012
12:04 am
Don, Rev = Pastornicky
Ralph
July 31st, 2012
12:05 am
Congradulations to Frank Wren, he hit a Gand Slam tonight, I almost had a heart attack when I heard Delgado was in the trade, I can sleep good tonight, maybe not as good as DOB is sleeping right now, where is our star beat reporter on the biggest story of the last two years.
FOCOBRAVES
July 31st, 2012
12:05 am
Maddux rarely ever hit the anything above 90 with his fastball. but the movement made him good. It was sarcasm saying he was “decent” but using the argument that you gotta throw hard is proven wrong just bring up mad dog.
Keith
July 31st, 2012
12:05 am
Yeah, he probably won’t…I was just talking out loud. Which is dangerous.
ohhhhYEAH
July 31st, 2012
12:05 am
Keith,
I dont know about replacing him, espcially not permanently, but maybe long enough to send him down or at l east sit him a start or two so he can get the cobwebs out of his head? Yes, definitely a nice problem to have
Grandma Giffin
July 31st, 2012
12:06 am
David O’Brien @ajcbraves
Commissioner has approved trade, about to be confirmed by #Braves Wren. Vizcaino and Chapman to Cubs.
Busch Leaguer
July 31st, 2012
12:06 am
With the majority of Braves starting pitchers averaging 6 innings or less ,Medlen is more valuable pitching out of the pen . Better to have him pitch 6 innings a week out of the pen than 5 or 6 innings in one start every fifth day.
Ralph
July 31st, 2012
12:06 am
DOB will be here tomorrow aternoon t tell us everything we already know!
Keith
July 31st, 2012
12:07 am
Love the TRADE if it ends up being confirmed.
Thanks, WREN!!!!! Love your ability to work with the limited budget you have.
go BRAVES!
Sweep the Fish. Finish 10-0 on homestand. Ok, 9-1. Hey, I can dream.
Night all!
Tampa Gator
July 31st, 2012
12:07 am
Brooklyn….
That was a trade to get Chipper into the playoffs one more time. Viz…if he gets healthy….just might make you cry pitching for the Cubs long after Chipper is gone. But that is what you do as a GM of a team that wants to win now……example……Detroit trading a young John Smoltz for an Alexander to try to win that year….they didn’t….and Smoltz made them cry all the way to the Hall of Fame. Not saying Viz will do that….but he may shut some Braves down in the future….and he may shut his arm down permanently next year as well. He is a risk….worth taking.
Don Green
July 31st, 2012
12:07 am
Outstanding trade for the Braves in my opinion. Maholm is a very solid middle of the rotation, junk balling lefty, a Tom Glavine like style. Obviously not with those results, but style wise. Johnson is a versatile 4th OF, very fast and can play all 3 spots. Frees up Prado to play 2B and 3B when needed.
Contract wise, Johnson is a free agent making only $1 million. Maholm has a $6.5 million club option for next year. You can keep him at an ok price or let him go depending on how he does. Basically just for Vizcaino. Chapman is not MLB quality. You keep all of your best pitching prospects.
ohhhhYEAH
July 31st, 2012
12:09 am
Blue Ridge
He actually is in the rotation, even if only for tomorrow, so whatever point you just tried to make is moot.
For everyone whois askign fo DOB, he just tweeted that Selig is about to approve the trade, and then Braves will announce officially
kerryb
July 31st, 2012
12:09 am
Let me get this right. Some of you dumb bells would want to stick a guy in the rotation that is totally unproven instead of an established left hand starter who is hot right now. Are you all crazy? I just don’t get this total infatuation with Kris Medlin. Also, we gave away practically nothing to get this starter. Now, all of the analyst on all of the networks say this is a great move and may put us over the top against the Nationals but you guys would rather give Medlin this shot that you think he is entitled to. I’m just glad some of you are not the GM of the Braves.
Tampa Gator
July 31st, 2012
12:09 am
You guys…..maybe DOB is just tired after a hard day of work and is at home in bed. Good idea….
CRM300
July 31st, 2012
12:11 am
No guarantee that Vizcaino will ever be the same pitcher after surgery. I love this trade. Maholm is a solid starter who has already beat the Braves this year. Johnson is an upgrade for the bench both offensively and defensively. Medlen will be solid in the bullpen. If Maholm does not work out as a starter, which he will, Medlen can always start. Maholm has a reasonable team option for 2013. This trade makes a lot of sense and makes this team better.
Peachstealth
July 31st, 2012
12:12 am
Tweet from DOB
David O’Brien @ajcbraves
Commissioner has approved trade, about to be confirmed by #Braves Wren. Vizcaino and Chapman to Cubs.
https://twitter.com/ajcbraves
ohhhhYEAH
July 31st, 2012
12:12 am
kerryb
No one said this wasnt a very good move. We were simply stating that we were excited to see Medlen get another start. He showed a lot of promise and a lot of talent in 2012, and since working hard to come back, while he’s very effective and very big for us in the pen, we all know he would rather start, so it was exciting to see that he would finally have a chance. Cool your jets
Tampa Gator
July 31st, 2012
12:13 am
Kerry B….
All I posted is a rebuttal to you saying “Medlen has not been great as a long reliever.” You were and are wrong about that. If Medlen pitches 5 shutout innings on Tuesday….the Braves are facing a delimma….but I am positive he is headed back to the pen no matter what he does on Tuesday….after this trade….
Question: The Braves have to make two moves….who goes? Diaz is on the DL….so JJ and who else goes?? I guess JJ and the fast OF they just called up from AAA…..forgot his name at the moment.
ohhhhYEAH
July 31st, 2012
12:13 am
that was supposed to be in 2010*
jharber
July 31st, 2012
12:14 am
Guys if this trade is as reported I owe Frank Wren an apology. We got alot for very little
Grandma Giffin
July 31st, 2012
12:15 am
Maholm last pitched on Sunday, could line his first start up for Friday or Saturday.
kerryb
July 31st, 2012
12:15 am
If Paul Maholm comes in and wins 8-9 games to finish the season and helps get us in the playoffs I really don’t care if Medlin ever gets a start. What are you going to say if Medlin starts tomorrow night and gives up 5 runs and we lose? You’ll say, “Man, I’m glad we made that trade”.
ohhhhYEAH
July 31st, 2012
12:15 am
Tampa
If i had to guess, Constanza will almost certainly be sent back down, Johnson to take his spot
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
July 31st, 2012
12:16 am
@ Tampa Gator
You maybe right about Viz, 2 years ago I liked him more than Randall or Teheran. Circumstances have changed since then and stuff happens. Viz may make us regret this deal, but I’ll take it for what could happen in the present. Gotta give to get in this league and i feel like we got more than we gave!
Still think JJ goes tommorow, to a pitching hungry Toronto team which is still in it.
Tampa Gator
July 31st, 2012
12:17 am
KerryB…
And Medlen was 6-2 for the Braves in 2010…..with a 3.68 ERA….14 starts….before going down with his arm injury. He was pitching very well when he went down….as a starter.
Busch Leaguer
July 31st, 2012
12:17 am
Georgie Constanza will be sent back to AAA, unless he is included in a trade for another relief pitcher.Matty Diaz is on the DL for the rest of the season.Jurrjens will be in another uniform tomorrow.
The Dude Abides... Still
July 31st, 2012
12:17 am
I would not be surprised to see Hinske DFA. But most likely its constanza to Gwinnett
ohhhhYEAH
July 31st, 2012
12:17 am
kerry
youre still trying to argue the fact that I think this is a bad trade, and I never said that. I like the trade a lot. So stop tryin to make it out like no one but you sees the value in it. Like i said, I was simply excited to see MEds finally start a game again.
Grandma Giffin
July 31st, 2012
12:17 am
kerryb – If Paul Maholm comes in and wins 8-9 games to finish the season and helps get us in the playoffs I really don’t care if Medlin ever gets a start.
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8-9 wins? Those are some lofty expectations. I would be fine it he continued his 3.74 era the rest of the way. He will need some help from the bats to get those Wins.
Tampa Gator
July 31st, 2012
12:18 am
We will find the facts for sure on Tuesday….good night Braves fans. Go Braves.
Brandon
July 31st, 2012
12:18 am
love the trade. I’m a fan of vizcaino, but if you want talent, you must give up talent. braves still have incredible depth in their system:delgado, gilmartin, teheran and more
K-man
July 31st, 2012
12:18 am
It may not be the BIG deal many wanted, but I like it, especially at this prices. It supplies needed Starting pitching (and a lefty) and right handed pinch hitter and backup OF. We’ve been trying to acquire Johnson for a couple of seasons now. So, the price in players was OK, plus Maholm can be brought back and Johnson may fill Diaz’s role next year. Great job, Wren and staff!
ohhhhYEAH
July 31st, 2012
12:19 am
Brooklyn
We all know you think JJ will be gone tomorrow, but it wont be for a major league spot. Anyone who follows baseball at all knows JJ has almost no trade value right now
Grandma Giffin
July 31st, 2012
12:19 am
Mark Bowman @mlbbowman
Braves also received cash considerations from the Cubs. They were able to do the same to help pay for Bourn last year.
JC Boscan III
July 31st, 2012
12:19 am
Reed Johnson’s a career .284 hitter, mostly singles and doubles, doesn’t steal many bases, but plays all 3 OF spots pretty well. His average this year against lefties is the key — .333. Also, he got off to a slow start overall but hit .333 in June and .371 in July.
Maholm is 62-79 in his career, with a 4.30 ERA, but his ERA in 2011 and 2012 is 3.69 in 282.2 innings, which isn’t bad for a starter.
kerryb
July 31st, 2012
12:20 am
Tampa Gator, You are betting on Medlin being being as good as he was 2 years ago before having major elbow surgery. I’d rather have the established guy to hinge the rest of my season on. Especially with Hanson not pitching that great right now.
Grandma Giffin
July 31st, 2012
12:20 am
David O’Brien @ajcbraves
“It was a perfect fit for us,” #Braves Wren said of getting Maholm and Johnson. Gave up relievers Vizcaino, Chapman.
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
July 31st, 2012
12:20 am
Constanza probably goes down until September. BTW Braves sent cash in dea as welll for maholm and RJ
Grandma Giffin
July 31st, 2012
12:22 am
Brooklyn Braves Brawler – not correct.
Mark Bowman @mlbbowman
Braves also received cash considerations from the Cubs.
The Dude Abides... Still
July 31st, 2012
12:22 am
I can’t believe the braves managed to get money too.
Busch Leaguer
July 31st, 2012
12:23 am
Frank Wren,
Please do every Braves fan one more favor , don’t activate Jinx Wilson please release him and thank him for his time with the Braves.
kerryb
July 31st, 2012
12:23 am
JC Boscan III
July 31st, 2012
12:19 am
Reed Johnson’s a career .284 hitter, mostly singles and doubles, doesn’t steal many bases, but plays all 3 OF spots pretty well. His average this year against lefties is the key — .333. Also, he got off to a slow start overall but hit .333 in June and .371 in July.
Maholm is 62-79 in his career, with a 4.30 ERA, but his ERA in 2011 and 2012 is 3.69 in 282.2 innings, which isn’t bad for a star
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You have to take into account that he pitched for several years for the Pirates when you look at his wins and losses record.
Ralph
July 31st, 2012
12:23 am
Gattis 2 for 5 tonight in LF, last nite 2 for 4 as DH, Guess we won’t see him until Sept now also guess we can say goodbye to Matty Diaz.
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
July 31st, 2012
12:23 am
JJ goes to clear spot on 40 man. Nady who got DFA’ed maybe filling that spot as a bat off bench. Bravos have been after him for years! Good bat for stretch run
Hosea Williams
July 31st, 2012
12:24 am
Ok with the trade but those who think the braves have great depth in their system its not true…this is as bad as their minor league system has been in years due to the drafting in the last 4 to 5 years. All the write up we see don’t even mention the braves system anymore….we used to be the talk of the league.
ohhhhYEAH
July 31st, 2012
12:25 am
kerryb
And youre betting that hes not going to be, which his work in extended innings this year has proven otherwise. His control is still there, he still has a very good change up, and rarely walks batters. So the question is, what happens when his line tomorrow night looks like a 5 IP/ 6 K/ BB/ ER? Dont you think we could use Medlen as more than a long reliever when thats what Martinez is for? And especially with Hanson reeling to find his stuff?
ohhhhYEAH
July 31st, 2012
12:26 am
again, no one said this deal was anything but great, so stop trying to argue your point. we believe you lol
Busch Leaguer
July 31st, 2012
12:27 am
I agree with Hosea ,Braves have done pretty good with the pitchers they have drafted but have very few top prospects as position players.
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
July 31st, 2012
12:27 am
Good thought, jack Wilson maybe gone too. No need to keep him with janish on team. The Rev is staying up with the big team for the rest of the year. Don’t think Simmons will be ready until September when rosters can be expanded, Wanna make sure he is fully healthy.
Blue ridge Brave
July 31st, 2012
12:27 am
Im sure that the cubs will pay most of the sal for this year and maybe the buyout in maholms deal. They will prob put diaz on the 60 day to open up a roster spot.
The Dude Abides... Still
July 31st, 2012
12:27 am
I wonder how much will the Cubs eat of Soriano’s contract if they are offered a prime prospect.
ohhhhYEAH
July 31st, 2012
12:28 am
Hosea….
Agreed. Once you get past Teheran and Beathencourt, with MAYBE the exception of Gattis, thats all we got.
Grandma Giffin
July 31st, 2012
12:29 am
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/07/31/braves-trade-for-cubs-maholm-and-reed-johnson/
ohhhhYEAH
July 31st, 2012
12:30 am
Yeah Busch, once we acquired Yanish, as good as he has been defensively, that put an end to Wilsons stint as a Brave, THANK GOODNESS!
The Dude Abides... Still
July 31st, 2012
12:30 am
Travis Snider has been traded…. To where who knows. Just saw him pulled from the Toronto game.
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
July 31st, 2012
12:31 am
@ Hosea Williams
Holding onto your young guys doesn’t win you playoff games. The FO has missed in the draft as of late, but they have drafted alot of college guys lately, which is different then what they used to do 4 years ago.
Grandma Giffin
July 31st, 2012
12:33 am
The Dude Abides… Still
They literally froze the game, and called him off the field. Ha!
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
July 31st, 2012
12:35 am
JJ for Snider? Anyone? Maybe trade for next year! Snider in LF
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
July 31st, 2012
12:36 am
Nevermind Snider to Pitt for Brad Lincoln! Good deal for Toronto!
The Dude Abides... Still
July 31st, 2012
12:37 am
Yeah Lincoln is a good pitcher.
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
July 31st, 2012
12:40 am
Toronto can mash with anybody in that division. With Joey Bats (Bautista) hurt, they might bring back Overbay to play 1B and let Edwin Encarnacion DH or vise versa.
Brooklyn Braves Brawler
July 31st, 2012
12:43 am
Takashi Saito in a game for the D’backs! never thought that would happen again.
The Scout
July 31st, 2012
12:47 am
Hats off to Wren, this is a solid trade! Maholm’s fastball can hit 90 on the gun, and he has a great variety of pitches – including a wicked slider. His ERA for July is 1.01. And he’s not a rental, has a $6.5 mil option for next year, which is relatively cheap for a pitcher of his quality. Reed Johnson is a solid 4th outfielder, but his real value may be as a pinch-hitter, where he is arguably the best in the National League this year.
Hate to see Vizcaino and his 100 mph fastball go, but no guarantees after TJ surgery. This is gonna really help the Braves!
the truth...
July 31st, 2012
1:06 am
Another bonus with Maholm is that he’s been around for a while so he may help Minor get past his hangups…..two lefties in the rotation, excellent…..
adios JJ….
bravesgrl4life
July 31st, 2012
5:37 am
Thanks for the late night work, DOB and CR!
Great trade! Maholm and Johnson for two minor leaguers, even if one was a top-rated prospect. And that top-rated prospect – who knows what he’ll be when he comes back from Tommy John? He might be the best thing since Sandy Kofax, or he might be horrible. One can never tell. I hope it’s the first (as long as he doesn’t pitch against us!), but there is no guarantee.
Preston Thompson
July 31st, 2012
8:27 am
Finally the Braves didn’t look like slobs on the field. The pants leg under the heel reminds me a a fat woman that wears a sack dress to hide the fat. It don’t work. Everybody know she’s fat as a porker on a stick. Good game last night.
Vesaversa
July 31st, 2012
11:28 am
10 penny bet that the Braves catch the Nationals and over take them for first this year.
wallypip
July 31st, 2012
1:39 pm
A friend who’s a bigtime mathemetician/university statistics prof. tells me off the cuff (no figuring on paper that I know of) that the odds of a team losing 16 straight games on Mondays are roughly 1 in 65,000.
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