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JC Boscan III

July 30th, 2012
11:35 pm

the Rev = Pastornicky…

Keith

July 30th, 2012
11:35 pm

If he is, I read it wrong…

Texas Braves Fan

July 30th, 2012
11:35 pm

Vizcaino other guy

Tampa Gator

July 30th, 2012
11:36 pm

MLB reports it only as a rumor…they say no confirmation on trades until Tuesday.

Najeh Davenpoop

July 30th, 2012
11:36 pm

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal
Source: Vizcaino and Chapman to #Cubs for Maholm and Johnson.
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Who knows

July 30th, 2012
11:36 pm

OOO YEAH

MEDLEN IS 1 GAME STARTER AND THATS IT

IF YOU CAN READ,READ THE BLOG FROM DAILY DOB

ERA OF 3.65 YEAH HE REALLY BLAZING IN 2010
IDIOTS

ohhhhYEAH

July 30th, 2012
11:37 pm

Then you read it wrong. His last 5 STARTS, he has gone like 3-0 with a 1.00 ERA. “starts” being the key word

Brooklyn Braves Brawler

July 30th, 2012
11:37 pm

Medlen is a better reliever than starter right now, more valuable anyway! And he is a damn good starter! Maholm is an awesome 3rd or 4th starter.

Huddy
Hanson
Maholm
Sheets
Minor

Pretty damn good. Better than most

The Dude Abides... Still

July 30th, 2012
11:37 pm

OH Shoot… I think I figured out who the rev is… Pastornicky?

Quack Quack

July 30th, 2012
11:38 pm

Chicago Tribune reports trades made, however no word who we gave up. They say report is from the AJC. So, DOB please tell us the real deal…..

Who knows

July 30th, 2012
11:38 pm

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal
Source: Vizcaino and Delgado to #Cubs for Maholm and Johnson.
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thought so

ohhhhYEAH

July 30th, 2012
11:38 pm

Who knows

Clearly YOU…dont. 3.65 era is actually not bad, especially for a back of the rotation guy. Do you know anything about baseball? or are you just pretending to know so someone will finally pay you some attention? Idiot ;)

higg papi

July 30th, 2012
11:39 pm

Vizcaino, chapman. Very concerned about the loss of Vizcaino. Fortunately, he has gone from a starting pitching prospect to a relief pitching prospect, so no worries about losing a future ace.

Brooklyn Braves Brawler

July 30th, 2012
11:39 pm

Chapman and Viscaino, i’ll buy that. Good deal all around!

Braves fan always

July 30th, 2012
11:39 pm

i heard it was delgado rosenthal said it was

thetalkingmonkey

July 30th, 2012
11:40 pm

NOOOOOOOO VIZCIANO IS GONE!

Joey M

July 30th, 2012
11:40 pm

I would like to see us trade for Broxton. We get him to help in the pen and we will run away with this.

Keith

July 30th, 2012
11:40 pm

Yes, apologies, I did read it incorrectly. :)

It’s not stellar, but he’s been hot the last 7 starts so we’ll see!

GO BRAVES! :)

kerryb

July 30th, 2012
11:40 pm

ohhhhYEAH
July 30th, 2012
11:38 pm

Who knows

Clearly YOU…dont. 3.65 era is actually not bad, especially for a back of the rotation guy. Do you know anything about baseball? or are you just pretending to know so someone will finally pay you some attention? Idiot

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Of course you have to factor in that he was pitching at Wrigley. Turner field is a more pitcher friendly ball park

BravesFaninBama

July 30th, 2012
11:40 pm

I sure wish I could block some of you idiots. Stop spewing out random garbage. Just post the real facts and not your BS!

Tampa Gator

July 30th, 2012
11:40 pm

IFTS…..

No…still have cable…..but a Gator did eat a dog in Tampa today…..really….a dog really got chomped by a Gator (got too close to some fresh water). Dog always tastes good to a Gator. (Feel sorry for the dude whose dog got chomped…however. But never let your dog get too close to fresh water in Florida….most of the time….it becomes dinner.

Braves fan always

July 30th, 2012
11:41 pm

Who knows

July 30th, 2012
11:38 pm
Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal
Source: Vizcaino and Delgado to #Cubs for Maholm and Johnson.
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thought so

it says here delgado so why u saying vizcanio

FUNNY HOW NO ONE FROM THE AJC OR BRAVES ORGANIZATION WILL COMFIRM OR DENY THE TRADE

kerryb

July 30th, 2012
11:42 pm

Crasnick just tweeted that it was Viscaino. Surprised the Cubs would make a deal for a guy who just had Tommy John surgery.

Tampa Gator

July 30th, 2012
11:42 pm

……(most of the time it becomes dinner)…..sort of like the Dawg-Gators serioes since 1990. Chomp…ummmm…tastes good…..I think I will take another big Dawg bite in 2012…..Gator says.

Grandma Giffin

July 30th, 2012
11:43 pm

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal
Vizcaino had Tommy John in spring training, but last season was one of #Braves’ big four untouchable pitching prospects. #Cubs

Grandma Giffin

July 30th, 2012
11:43 pm

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal
Source: Vizcaino and Chapman to #Cubs for Maholm and Johnson.

kerryb

July 30th, 2012
11:43 pm

Braves fan always
July 30th, 2012
11:41 pm

Who knows

July 30th, 2012
11:38 pm
Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal
Source: Vizcaino and Delgado to #Cubs for Maholm and Johnson.
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thought so

it says here delgado so why u saying vizcanio

FUNNY HOW NO ONE FROM THE AJC OR BRAVES ORGANIZATION WILL COMFIRM OR DENY THE TRADE

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Jerry Crasnick with ESPN is saying it was Chapman and Vizcaino. Not Delgado, Gilmartin, Minor or Teheran

ohhhhYEAH

July 30th, 2012
11:43 pm

kerrb

I was referring to medlen with that post because the moron above said a 3.65 era was apparently awful.
But yes, completely agree with you that Maholm will be good for us now that hes in a bigger park and a better hitting team. One or zero earned runs in his last 7, pretty darn good.

Supergolf

July 30th, 2012
11:43 pm

Gevona Soto was traded not delgado

Braves fan always

July 30th, 2012
11:44 pm

Tampa gator enjoy medlen tomorrow as a starter

unless someone gets hurt,thats the last you see him as a starter this year

durrtydogg

July 30th, 2012
11:44 pm

Mark Bowman ‏@mlbbowman
As @Ken_Rosenthal first reported, Arodys Vizcaino will be going to the Cubs with Jaye Chapman

Brooklyn Braves Brawler

July 30th, 2012
11:44 pm

Yorvit Torrealba DFA’ed after the G. Soto trade. Look for Yorvit to go back to SF so that Posey can play 1B for the rest of the year!

The Dude Abides... Still

July 30th, 2012
11:44 pm

OK… so Vizcaino and Chapman for Maholm and Reed. That works for me. I hope Vizcaino recovers from his TJ surgery and does well in Chicago but I think its a good move for the braves.

Chip is a mutt

July 30th, 2012
11:45 pm

It’s pretty pathetic that everyone is reporting this trade and we have yet to get a comment or story from the Braves beat writer. Wtf! Tell us who was in the trade or if you don’t know then tell us that you don’t know or can’t say. Better than ignoring it. Morons.

Braves fan always

July 30th, 2012
11:45 pm

Still waiting for someone from the braves to confirm this,no some beat writer who works for espn looking for ratings

Brooklyn Braves Brawler

July 30th, 2012
11:45 pm

Soto was traded to Rangers moving Napoli into DH role with Moreland!

Ralph

July 30th, 2012
11:46 pm

Texas Braves Fan
July 30th, 2012
11:35 pm

Vizcaino other guy

I may be wrong but I don’t think you can trade a player who is on the DL.

Blue ridge Brave

July 30th, 2012
11:46 pm

Kerryb. Unlike you i watch baseball and dont just look at stats. His avg fastball is 87. Just how many pitchers have sustained success. He is a back end of the rotation pitch at best and i had rather and medlin in the rotation and pick up bull pin help. Also about johnson im sure all the nl will be scared to death to see him pinch hitting in the ninth. I want power on the bench not a slap hitting outfielder with little power or speed. He is by no means a great defensive outfielder and would not take the place of any of the guys we already have. You sir or dear or young man on your dads computer have no clue what you are talking about,

Keith

July 30th, 2012
11:46 pm

Definitely NOT Delgado.

Win for Wren and Braves. :)

Joey M

July 30th, 2012
11:46 pm

Jaye Chapman and Arodys Vizcaino for Paul Molholm and Reed Johnson. We really didn’t give up much of anything. Vizcaino had Tommy-John surgery so the Cubs are going to have to be patient with him. This is a good trade.
Remember folks, the alternative was Randal Delgado for Ryan Dempster. That deal would have sucked bad.

Keith

July 30th, 2012
11:46 pm

Also, Cubs won’t confirm trades till tomorrow. We’ll have to wait. :(

Grandma Giffin

July 30th, 2012
11:47 pm

Maybe they are working on a quick article, Chip is a Mutt.

kerryb

July 30th, 2012
11:47 pm

If you look at who we gave up this was a great trade by Wren. A back of the bullpen guy and an injured pitcher for a solid left handed starter and a good right handed bat off the bench and backup outfielder.

Keith

July 30th, 2012
11:47 pm

Re: Chip is a mutt.

Do you read the tweets from DOB?

durrtydogg

July 30th, 2012
11:47 pm

Please, please somebody take JJ!!

Brooklyn Braves Brawler

July 30th, 2012
11:48 pm

I think Garza may go to Toronto as well. They are desperate for pitching. Orioles may be an option as well.

The Dude Abides... Still

July 30th, 2012
11:48 pm

I totally agree with Joey. Plus I doubt the braves are done with working on the Pen or another bench spot.

Brooklyn Braves Brawler

July 30th, 2012
11:50 pm

Think JJ is going to Toronto tommorow. Will be comfortable with KJ and Yunel up the middle!

thetalkingmonkey

July 30th, 2012
11:50 pm

Braves got fleeced. This just may be a better return, relatively speaking, than the Demp/Delgado fiasco for the Cubs. Theo does it again!

Rayman

July 30th, 2012
11:50 pm

Or maybe he wants to be accurate instead of FIRST!

Chip is a mutt

July 30th, 2012
11:51 pm

If it is Vizcaino in the trade it is a bad move unless the Braves medical people don’t think he can comeback from the surgery. Maholm is a journeyman and Reed Johnson is a backup outfielder. No way I would give up Vizcaino for that assuming he returns healthy. Neither of these guys will put the Braves over the top.

thetalkingmonkey

July 30th, 2012
11:51 pm

Where is David O’Brien? Oh he’s probably out being a hipster.

Brooklyn Braves Brawler

July 30th, 2012
11:52 pm

10:41pm: Arodys Vizcaino, who had Tommy John surgery this spring, is the other player going to Chicago, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports reports (on Twitter).

kerryb

July 30th, 2012
11:52 pm

All of you Medlin lovers need your head examined. I like Medlin too but I would rather have an established starter than a guy starting for the first time in 2 years. Medlin has not been all that great as a long reliever this year. You’re basing this love for Medlin as a starter on what he did 2 years ago and there’s no guarantee he will be that good. He wasn’t when they sent him down to be a starter. I want the lefty that’s 5-0 in his last seven starters with a 1.50 ERA. Not the experiment.

Tampa Gator

July 30th, 2012
11:53 pm

I believe the only way you can trade a player on the DL is to trade him….as a “player to be named later”…..do an exam when he is healthy….and substitute another player if the other team rejects him. So the Braves probably will get the two players for one or more named players….and a player to be named later.

Tampa Gator

July 30th, 2012
11:53 pm

I believe the only way you can trade a player on the DL is to trade him….as a “player to be named later”…..do an exam when he is healthy….and substitute another player if the other team rejects him. So the Braves probably will get the two players for one or more named players….and a player to be named later.

Blue ridge Brave

July 30th, 2012
11:53 pm

Again Vizcaino will be one of those guys guys we say why did we put this guy in a trade. I cant believe we traded this kid I know he is hurt bud he was a top 50 prospect in ALL of baseball and will just as so many other pitchers have come back as strong or stronger from tommy john. Oh well go braves lets win these next six and put some heat on the nats.

Thewyzyrd

July 30th, 2012
11:53 pm

Rosenthal says its Vizcaino

The Dude Abides... Still

July 30th, 2012
11:53 pm

Hey Monkey… So what players from the braves system would you have traded for those two? What would you have done?

Thewyzyrd

July 30th, 2012
11:53 pm

Enter your comments here

ohhhhYEAH

July 30th, 2012
11:53 pm

Blue Ridge

Are you mentally unstable? Reed Johnson is QUITE fast, and plays the outfield especially well bud. I dont know if you are arguing just for arguments sake or what, but you may want to let this one go before you embarrass yourself

Tampa Gator

July 30th, 2012
11:53 pm

I believe the only way you can trade a player on the DL is to trade him….as a “player to be named later”…..do an exam when he is healthy….and substitute another player if the other team rejects him. So the Braves probably will get the two players for one or more named players….and a player to be named later.

FOCOBRAVES

July 30th, 2012
11:53 pm

“His avg fastball is 87. Just how many pitchers have sustained success”

And you call yourself a braves fan? Maddux’s fastball was around the same range and If my memory is right he was a decent pitcher for us. It doesn’t matter how hard you throw Medlan can paint the corners and rarely walks anyone. And when you can do that and have great off speed stuff… You’re hard to hit.

FOCOBRAVES

July 30th, 2012
11:53 pm

“His avg fastball is 87. Just how many pitchers have sustained success”

And you call yourself a braves fan? Maddux’s fastball was around the same range and If my memory is right he was a decent pitcher for us. It doesn’t matter how hard you throw Medlan can paint the corners and rarely walks anyone. And when you can do that and have great off speed stuff… You’re hard to hit.

Chip is a mutt

July 30th, 2012
11:54 pm

Keith. No I don’t read his tweets unless they are on the AJC Sports page. How hard is it for him to post a quick comment in this blog if they are actually working on a story?

thetalkingmonkey

July 30th, 2012
11:54 pm

I would have just put in Medlen in JJs spot and pickup a reliever. Trading Viz is a horrible move.

Keith

July 30th, 2012
11:55 pm

Re: kerryb

You’re probably going to be right – a proven starter who’s hot vs Medlen who has been great in the pen but unproven this year as a SP.

But we will see!!

Go BRAVES! :)

Brooklyn Braves Brawler

July 30th, 2012
11:55 pm

Medlen is just more valuable as a reliever right now. One of the better bridge guys in the league. Rather have him in during a tied game in 6th or 7th than any of our other relievers. Maybe EOF (Irish) is the exception.

Keith

July 30th, 2012
11:56 pm

Re: chip is a mutt

Maybe he’s working on it now. Who knows? :)

Go BRAVES

thetalkingmonkey

July 30th, 2012
11:56 pm

I would have much rather just did nothing at the deadline. We are playing very well right now and if we did deal trade for a bench bat and a BP arm.

Blue ridge Brave

July 30th, 2012
11:56 pm

Maddux was 93 to 94 in his prime and one of the best in the history of baseball which would be part of the how many you have used a hof for your example good job.

kerryb

July 30th, 2012
11:56 pm

Blue ridge Brave
July 30th, 2012
11:46 pm

Kerryb. Unlike you i watch baseball and dont just look at stats. His avg fastball is 87. Just how many pitchers have sustained success. He is a back end of the rotation pitch at best and i had rather and medlin in the rotation and pick up bull pin help. Also about johnson im sure all the nl will be scared to death to see him pinch hitting in the ninth. I want power on the bench not a slap hitting outfielder with little power or speed. He is by no means a great defensive outfielder and would not take the place of any of the guys we already have. You sir or dear or young man on your dads computer have no clue what you are talking about,

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Hey ding dong, my Dad’s been dead for 15 years and I probably have a son your age and have probably watched baseball for longer than you have been shaving. And also to enlighten you some. teams don;t back deadline trades for power hitters that sit on the bench. The BRaves were looking for a guy to replace Diaz and that’s what they got. Johnson has a career .283 average and is hitting .302 this year. You want the bat off your bench to get the big hit with a runner in scoring position. Not a power hitter who may strike out in that situation.

Blue ridge Brave

July 30th, 2012
11:59 pm

reed johnson has stolen 41 bases in over 1000 games quite fast indeed.

Keith

July 30th, 2012
11:59 pm

Re: the talking monkey

I guess they will see it is

Now:

Medlen is the arm in the BP that stays

We get a starter who’s a lefty and HOT

And Reed off the bench.

Brooklyn Braves Brawler

July 30th, 2012
11:59 pm

Looks like Garza maybe headed to Reds! Theo is dealing!

Keith

July 30th, 2012
11:59 pm

ohhhhYEAH

July 31st, 2012
12:00 am

Putting Medlen in the rotation doesnt hurt us as much as you people make it out to. After all, we have Cristhian Martinez, who is actually our long reliever, and has looked very good for the last couple months. And if Venters can actualyl be as good as he has been since coming back, losing Medlen to the rotation isnt a big deal at all

Grandma Giffin

July 31st, 2012
12:00 am

Or maybe DOB is riding the chopper home, Can’t exactly write an article while on that thing.

Blue ridge Brave

July 31st, 2012
12:00 am

sorry about your dad my friend a childish comment on my end.

kerryb

July 31st, 2012
12:01 am

Blue Ridge, you are proving that you know nothing at all. Greg Maddux only dreamed of hitting 93 or 94 on the gun. His best fastball may have been 90-91. Now, your Momma is calling you because it’s past your bedtime. Get off the basement computer.

K-man

July 31st, 2012
12:01 am

Jaye Chapman and Aroldys Viscaino were dealt to the Cubs, per Ken Rosenthal of MLB Networker.

Brooklyn Braves Brawler

July 31st, 2012
12:01 am

Wren did a hell of a job getting Maholm & Reed only giving up Viz and Chapman! Congrats!

Brave Decisions

July 31st, 2012
12:02 am

Breaking down RJ/PM trade. http://wp.me/p2lqJ1-bG

Keith

July 31st, 2012
12:02 am

Re: OhhhYEAH

Yeah, while Medlen isn’t as proven cause we haven’t seen him…I’ll admit I was VERY EXCITED about seeing him start.

What happens if Medlen rocks it?! Replacing Hanson? A nice dilemma indeed.

The Teacher

July 31st, 2012
12:02 am

Enter your comments here

Tampa Gator

July 31st, 2012
12:03 am

“Medlin has not been all that great as a long reliever this year. You’re basing this love for Medlin as a starter on what he did 2 years ago and there’s no guarantee he will be that good.”

@KerryB……

Here are Medlen’s (with an E) current stats…

1-1 record
2.48 ERA
38 games pitched
54 innings pitched
46 hits allowed
13 walks in 54 innings
36 strikeouts in 54 innings

I would say those are fairly great numbers for a middle to long reliever.

durrtydogg

July 31st, 2012
12:03 am

I hate giving up Viz but hey Im not mad at this trade. Malholm has an option for next year so if he does his thing, we can pick it up. He has an almost 50% ground ball rate which will bode well in our ball park. Johnson is hitting real well and he is a very decent defensive outfielder. Plus our bench sucks so his 300 avg will certainly help out. I dont care if he doesnt yank it out the park. Most of the time when we pinch hit, its because runners are on base so a few line drive singles should produce a few runs. Decent trade without giving up too much. I know Viz will do well. Keep in mind though he has been traded twice in his young career and now he will be coming off tommy john.

Brooklyn Braves Brawler

July 31st, 2012
12:03 am

Medlen is just a better reliever than SP right now. Medlen is the Prado of the pitching staff, as one of my fellow posters said last week!

Blue ridge Brave

July 31st, 2012
12:04 am

ohhhhyeah. Med will now no longer be in the rotation speaking of arguing for arguing sake.

Don

July 31st, 2012
12:04 am

Grandma Giffin

July 31st, 2012
12:04 am

Keith – As much as I would love to see Medlen shine tomorrow, it is hard to imagine him taking over Hanson’s spot.

Keith

July 31st, 2012
12:04 am

Yep, right now with the Sheets find and signing and this deal, Wren could be GM of the year if we make playoffs. :)

Grandma Giffin

July 31st, 2012
12:04 am

Don, Rev = Pastornicky

Ralph

July 31st, 2012
12:05 am

Congradulations to Frank Wren, he hit a Gand Slam tonight, I almost had a heart attack when I heard Delgado was in the trade, I can sleep good tonight, maybe not as good as DOB is sleeping right now, where is our star beat reporter on the biggest story of the last two years.

FOCOBRAVES

July 31st, 2012
12:05 am

Maddux rarely ever hit the anything above 90 with his fastball. but the movement made him good. It was sarcasm saying he was “decent” but using the argument that you gotta throw hard is proven wrong just bring up mad dog.

Keith

July 31st, 2012
12:05 am

Yeah, he probably won’t…I was just talking out loud. Which is dangerous. :)

ohhhhYEAH

July 31st, 2012
12:05 am

Keith,

I dont know about replacing him, espcially not permanently, but maybe long enough to send him down or at l east sit him a start or two so he can get the cobwebs out of his head? Yes, definitely a nice problem to have

Grandma Giffin

July 31st, 2012
12:06 am

David O’Brien ‏@ajcbraves
Commissioner has approved trade, about to be confirmed by #Braves Wren. Vizcaino and Chapman to Cubs.

Busch Leaguer

July 31st, 2012
12:06 am

With the majority of Braves starting pitchers averaging 6 innings or less ,Medlen is more valuable pitching out of the pen . Better to have him pitch 6 innings a week out of the pen than 5 or 6 innings in one start every fifth day.

Ralph

July 31st, 2012
12:06 am

DOB will be here tomorrow aternoon t tell us everything we already know!

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