Fredi G. on Uggla’s epic slump and Chipper’s Tweet
After Fredi Gonzalez told a funny story this morning about how he’d not slept much worried about Chipper Jones’ health after Chipper Tweeted late Saturday night that he “had a date with the Doc” today (more on that in a moment), I ruined the mood by asking about the decidedly unfunny and extended slump of one Dan Uggla.
Gonzalez said Dan Uggla's long, brutal hitting slump hasn't hurt his confidence or hustle, so he'll keep playing him and let him try to work through it.
It’s getting epic, folks.
The Braves second baseman had a two-homer, five-RBI game on June 5 at Miami, and since then it’s been he’s been the worst hitter in baseball.
Uggla has hit .110 (15-for-136) with two doubles, two homers, nine RBIs and 55 strikeouts in 42 games since then, and he’s gone hitless in 10 of his past 11 games, with at least three at-bats in each of those 10 0-for’s. He’s 0-for-21 with nine strikeouts in his past seven games.
The home fans are getting restless – actually they’ve been that way for a while about Uggla – and it’s probably because they have seen Uggla at his worst. Uggla’s .209 overall average this season includes .181 (and a .297 slugging percentage) in 48 games at Turner Field, where he’s hit four homers and struck out 60 times in 155 at-bats. It gets worse.
In his past 20 home games, Uggla has hit .063 (4-for-64) with one double, two RBIs, 12 walks, 30 strikeouts – yes, 30 strikeouts in 64 at-bats – and a .319 OPS (.078 slugging percentage).
So I asked Fredi, again, what can be done about Uggla, if they’re thinking about doing anything different. (Like Pastornicky at second base for a while, or Prado at second and Hinske in left for a couple of games. I don’t know. Something.)
“One of the things you look at is if his confidence is still there,” Gonzalez said. “One of the signs you see of frustration [from slumping players] is you see guys get a called third strike or called strike two and fight with the umpire, and you don’t see that [from Uggla]. You don’t see him take it to the other side [defense]. You see him hit a ground ball and he’s still running 4.3 [seconds] down to first base; he’s not running 7-flat. He’s still in there fighting and battling. Keep running him in there.
“I talked to him last night about how he feels confidence-wise. He said, ‘Oh, I feel good. I’m in. I’m still in the battle. Still fighting.’ So you stay behind him and keep putting him in there really.”
Then he pointed out that despite Uggla’s mammoth slump, the Braves are winning.
“The other thing is, during these struggles, you go back as far as you want to go back, to the five-RBI game in Miami, it’s 44 games ago or whatever and we’re seven games over .500,” Gonzales said. “So it’s not like he’s killing us. You try to find a silver lining.”
The Braves are six games over .500 (24-18) in those 44 games during Uggla’s skid. And in his past 20 home games, with him doing almost nothing at the plate, they are 11-9.
“And he still commands a presence in the lineup,” Gonzalez said. “The other day we had runners at second and third with McCann at the plate, who’d got them [the Phillies] at that time for five home runs in a row. And I know it’s lefty against lefty with Hamels, but you’ve got Uggla on deck and everybody in the world knows he’s struggling, and they still chose to pitch to McCann. And McCann gets them for a three-run homer. So [Uggla] still commands some presence in the lineup.”
In other words, don’t expect changes anytime soon. Sounds like they’re going to let Uggla keep trying to swing his way out of this.
• Chipper’s date with “the Doc”: Gonzalez was watching the Olympics late Saturday night with his two teen-aged kids, when one of them noticed a Tweet from Chipper Jones (yes, the Battle Axe jointed the Twitter-verse last week, after some imposters set up fake accounts using his name and did some distasteful stuff; Chipper figured it’d be wise to set up an authentic verified account).
Chipper – account @RealCJ10 — has only sent out 10 Tweets and already has over 62,000 followers. The 10th of those Tweets was this one at about midnight Saturday: “Wow Mikey Minor! Hats off to Blanton too. They were dealing. 4 game streak since I got on the twitta. Got a date wit the Doc tmrw. Go Bravos”
Chipper Jones' avatar photo on his new Twitter account, @RealCJ10. He Tweeted something late Friday that caused a night of restless sleep for manager Fredi Gonzalez.
Can you tell where this story is going?
“I’m learning the lingo of Tweeting, now that Chipper’s on the Twitter,” said Gonalez, who is about as anti-Twitter as anyone under the age of 50. “I’m sitting there last night with the kids; my kids are following him. I’m watching the gymnasts and the swimming, and here comes Chipper’s Tweet – my son Alex is reading it to me – ‘Minor was good, Kimbrel was dirty or whatever, and Blanton pitched pretty good. Gonna go see the doc tomorrow morning.’ I’m going, oh s—. ‘Got a date with the doc.’?”
Gonzalez said he tossed and turned all night, worried.
“So I come into today and I go up to Bubba [Braves head trainer Jeff Porter] and say, ‘Bubba, what’s Chipper going to the doc about?’ And I tell him the story,” Gonzalez said. “ Then I put two and two together – it’s Doc Halladay.
“God almighty, this Tweeting stuff is going to kill me.”
• Today’s matchup: It’s Huddy vs. Doc. Tim Hudson vs. Roy Halladay, that is.
Halladay has no decisions and a 6.55 ERA and .302 opponents’ average in two starts since returning from the DL for a strained shoulder. He’s allowed an un-Doc-like 13 hits and eight runs in 11 innings against the Dodgers and Brewers, albeit with only one walk and nine strikeouts.
Halladay was 4-1 with a 1.78 ERA in seven career starts against the Braves before giving up 12 hits and eight runs in in 5-1/3 innings of a May 2 game at Philly, when Brian McCann hit a grand slam off Doc and the Braves came from a 6-0 deficit to win 15-13 in 11 innings, snapping an eight-game skid against the Phillies.
The Braves lost to the Phillies the next day but have beaten them five in a row since then while posting a 1.60 ERA and limiting the Phillies to a total of eight runs.
Against Halladay, Chipper is 8-for-16 with two homers, McCann is 9-for-23 with a homer, and Freddie Freeman is 4-for-10 with a homer. Oh, and here’s good news for hopeful Braves fans: Uggla is 10-for-28 (.357) with three homers off Halladay.
Hudson is 3-0 with a 3.20 ERA in his past four starts, including three quality starts of 7 or 7-1/3 innings in which he pitched 90 or fewer innings. The efficiency is evident in the fact the ol sinkerballer has but eight strikeouts and six walks in 25-1/3 innings of his past four starts. Groundballs, baby.
Hudson is 4-4 with a 2.93 ERA in 11 starts vs. Philly, including 2-1 with a 2.65 ERA in five during the 2011-2012 seasons. In his only start against them this season, he pitched scoreless innings (four hits, one walk, no strikeouts) in a July 6 win.
Ryan Howard is 19-for-55 (.345) with six homers off Hudson, while Jimmy Rollins is just 13-for-67 (.194) against him.
• Bench help? Braves are keeping tight lid on possible bench and/or bullpen trade targets, but it’s known they’ve expressed interest in Mets outfielder Scott Hairston. He’d be a good pickup, particularly with Matt Diaz injured. Hairston has hit .258 overall with 12 homers, .299 OBP and .511 slugging in 221 at-bats for Mets, but against lefties he’s hit .308 (37-for-120) with nine homers, a .341 OBP and .617 slugging (.958 OPS).
• OK, let’s get this up so you can read it before first pitch. I’ll close with a fine tune from one of the best songwriters few people have heard. This guy’s really strong. William Elliott Whitmore doing “Old Devils,” which you can hear by clicking here (I like the album version better, but you can get a good feel for the guy by watching him do this version live at a radio station).
“OLD DEVILS” by William Elliott Whitmore
The old devils are at it again.
Who knows what they’ll do.
It’s true right now like it was back then.
The old devils are at it again.
From behind these bars the view don’t change.
Desperation death and despair.
From what little I hear of the outside world.
Well it’s not to different out there.
And they tell me there’s a war without no end.
The old devils are at it again.
They die by the millions children women and men.
The old devils are at it again.
When I say devil you know
Who I mean these animals in the dark
Malicious politicians with nefarious schemes
Charlatans and crooked cops
The moonshine still gives you five to ten
The old devils are at it again.
Stripes on your back and a ball and chain
The old devils are at it again.
Two men stare out of prison bars wonderin’ what got ‘em here.
One saw mud but the other saw stars.
Prayin’ that the end is near.
Well the billboard outside says “confess your sins”
The old devils are at it again.
I guess I will confess that I’ve been sufferin’.
The old devils are at it again.
I said ‘The old devils are at it again’.
Who knows what they’ll do.
And it’s true right now like it was back then.
The old devils are at it again.
I said ‘The old devils are at it again’.
Oh oh…
– David O’Brien, Braves/MIB blog
1,577 comments Add your comment
eskippy
July 29th, 2012
1:26 pm
1
JipWiz
July 29th, 2012
1:28 pm
2?
Bama Brave
July 29th, 2012
1:29 pm
3
Venice Jim
July 29th, 2012
1:29 pm
Thanks, DOB!
BFChris27
July 29th, 2012
1:30 pm
Thanks for new blog!!!!!!
BFChris27
July 29th, 2012
1:32 pm
Poor Fredi
Kathy
July 29th, 2012
1:32 pm
I thought the same thing when I read Chipper’s tweet about the Doc at first. Then I calmed down and figured out he meant Halladay, luckily! Send poor Uggs to the slump doc, let’s get him right again!!!
JC Brave
July 29th, 2012
1:33 pm
BALLGAME!
Dan Struggla
July 29th, 2012
1:33 pm
Like I said on the previous blog, Fredi’s in love with the guy (since his Miami days) and he’ll continue to trot him out there.
ChattTownBrian
July 29th, 2012
1:33 pm
Uggla slumping, we are winning – very clear sign we do not need this guy.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
July 29th, 2012
1:34 pm
DOB Against Halladay, Chipper is 8-for-16 with two homers, McCann is 9-for-23 with a homer, and Freddie Freeman is 4-for-10 with a homer. Oh, and here’s good news for hopeful Braves fans: Uggla is 10-for-28 (.357) with three homers off Halladay.
Nice! Wish BMac was playing today…
nolie
July 29th, 2012
1:36 pm
thank you for the new blog
ACE
July 29th, 2012
1:36 pm
Keep running him out there, for how long?
Keith
July 29th, 2012
1:36 pm
DOB,
Any word on what possible reliever we could look at acquiring?
Go BRAVES!
Oh, and good work.
BravesFanInBama
July 29th, 2012
1:37 pm
I get where FG is saying that they are “still winning” with Uggla getting 3-5 outs a game…But wouldn’t he be more excited to see Uggla getting 2-3 hits a game and HELPING the team win more consistently? The last time Uggla hate a multi hit game? The epic come back win against the Nats. If Uggla struck out 5-6 times that night, would that win ever of happened? There has got to be SOMETHING that can be done about Uggla. His swing has not changed the entire slump. He is still swinging with all arms and falling back on his swing. I am DEFINITELY not a swing coach, but Walker is and Chipper almost is. Please guys, HELP UGGLA! When he is actually hitting, he really is VERY fun to watch.
FBYJ
July 29th, 2012
1:37 pm
6th! Enjoyed a great game at The Ted last night. Hope today’s goes equally well.
Keith
July 29th, 2012
1:38 pm
We should remind the fans that Bobby would have probably done the same thing. Those trusted veterans got a late of patience…sometimes it paid off and sometimes it didn’t. Either way, I think it’s the right strategy for a veteran. Maybe give him a few days off here and there, see what happens.
Pace
July 29th, 2012
1:38 pm
DOB – thanks for asking the question on Uggla, the answers were insightful too. Now I understand why Fredi keeps running him out there, he’s gonna bust out of this soon
Jerry
July 29th, 2012
1:38 pm
Every time Ross catches, he is still hitting behind Uggla in the lineup. Ross is so much better than Uggla at this point.
ACE
July 29th, 2012
1:38 pm
Last year when Jason was struggling Fredi benched him and said he was going to use players that would help win games. With Uggla he is just going to wait it out. We all hope Uggla will get on a hot streak but how long do you wait.
nolie
July 29th, 2012
1:38 pm
Hairston or Reed Johnson. do it now
Chiricahua Brave
July 29th, 2012
1:38 pm
Wow. If anyone is more clueless than Uggla it has to be Freddi.
David O'Brien
July 29th, 2012
1:39 pm
Halladay needs 1 K to become
3rd5th active pitcher w/ 2,000 K’s. Only two have reached 2,000 faster than Halladay. Sabathia is one, and you’ll never, ever guess o w/out looking up.I’ll give you 50 choices. Don’t look it up now. No cheating.
optimist
July 29th, 2012
1:39 pm
nolie,
reading some of your posts over time… were you somehow involved in scouting Chipper?
archie
July 29th, 2012
1:39 pm
Yes, thanks to the imploding Phillies, the dysfunctional Marlins and the mediocre Mets….the Braves have indeed done well during Uggla’s mega-slump. So the Frediot can justify his Ugg-love this way.
Let’s see how well that works during the drive to post-season and beyond. 3 strikeouts a night, a failure to advance and drive in baserunners, and no range in the field. That could be a factor in October.
VA Braves Fan
July 29th, 2012
1:39 pm
Fredi is hopeless.
ChattTownBrian
July 29th, 2012
1:40 pm
“What is it called … a tweet, a twit” That what Joe Simpson just said.
Capt.Mudd
July 29th, 2012
1:40 pm
Thanks for new blog DOB.
nolie
July 29th, 2012
1:40 pm
no but friends were and I saw him every season as he came up through the system, my favorite Brave of all time.
BFChris27
July 29th, 2012
1:40 pm
The Diamondbacks have acquired third baseman Chris Johnson from the Astros for minor league outfielders Marc Krauss and Bobby Borchering, the teams announced. Borchering, 21, was Arizona’s first round pick in the 2009 draft while Krauss, 24, was taken in the second round of the same draft.
ChattTownBrian
July 29th, 2012
1:41 pm
Barry Zito?
Pace
July 29th, 2012
1:42 pm
DOB – an ex-Brave – Millwood right?
ChattTownBrian
July 29th, 2012
1:42 pm
I’ll go Jamie Moyer, but is he even still pitching.
Tampa Gator
July 29th, 2012
1:42 pm
I am sorry…..how could Gonzalez not have known what that tweet meant. Oh my gosh……I sure hope he is a lot brighter than that while trying come up with strategies in the dugout during baseball games.
P.S. Uggla is more valuable doing what he is doing on the field than Pastornicky would ever be doing what he does. I have a feeling Uggla is going to break out in August and September and carry the Braves to the playoffs……or am I just having a typical Dawg fan summer dream?
nolie
July 29th, 2012
1:43 pm
not sure how much faith I have in Huddy against the Phils
ChattTownBrian
July 29th, 2012
1:43 pm
Pace, CHEATER!
Mark
July 29th, 2012
1:43 pm
Dadgum umpire is tight!!
Tampa Gator
July 29th, 2012
1:44 pm
Why would anyone want to trade for anyone on the Astros?
ChattTownBrian
July 29th, 2012
1:44 pm
nolie, or Mr. Negative
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 29th, 2012
1:44 pm
Thanks for the new blog DOB.
Pace
July 29th, 2012
1:44 pm
No – I read it last night, there was a post on the blog about us picking him up (joking I think) but I read his stats – just dumb luck.
Venice Jim
July 29th, 2012
1:45 pm
Jon Morosi @jonmorosi
Mike Trout scratched from #Angels lineup today with left knee contusion. Team says he is day to day.
Might be a good time to pick him up cheap…
David O'Brien
July 29th, 2012
1:45 pm
I rephrased the question — it’s only two active pitchers have reached 2,000 faster than Halladay. (There are four active pitchers with more than 2,000 strikeouts.)
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 29th, 2012
1:45 pm
D. Ross is amazing…. better than BMac
Pace
July 29th, 2012
1:46 pm
Nice throw Rossi!!!!!
BFChris27
July 29th, 2012
1:46 pm
Rossy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Venice Jim
July 29th, 2012
1:46 pm
Great throw!!! (no offense)…
Keith
July 29th, 2012
1:46 pm
I’ll take a guess that it’s Moyer due to longevity. He may have well over that actually…since you said “you’d never guess it.”
Dunno..
Jerry
July 29th, 2012
1:46 pm
Wow, throws don’t get any better than that one to get Victorino.
archie
July 29th, 2012
1:46 pm
Sure wish we could have Ross’s catching and McCann’s bat in the lineup every day. But that ship has sailed.
Capt.Mudd
July 29th, 2012
1:46 pm
On the money by Ross…hope he has a good day at plate too.
Mark
July 29th, 2012
1:46 pm
Nice throw Rossy
Quick release and on the money
The Dude Abides... Still
July 29th, 2012
1:46 pm
Venice.. that was a joke right?
Tampa Gator
July 29th, 2012
1:47 pm
Jerry…
You can’t put Uggla and Janish back to back in the lineup…followed by the pitcher. That is a guaranteed 3 up and 3 down right now.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 29th, 2012
1:47 pm
really think the Bravos need to pick up a SP (duh)… the 2010 team was already leading the division (or pretty close to it) at the deadline… they just needed some extra pieces. We need to catch up.
Mikeyc588
July 29th, 2012
1:47 pm
I guess Jamie Moyer isn’t “active”? Or Pettitte?
nolie
July 29th, 2012
1:47 pm
Mr. Reverse Jinx to you dude….
Venice Jim
July 29th, 2012
1:48 pm
I suspect so…
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 29th, 2012
1:48 pm
Sure wish we could have Ross’s catching and McCann’s bat in the lineup every day. But that ship has sailed.
The NL needs the DH
Tampa Gator
July 29th, 2012
1:48 pm
The reason Ross is such a good catcher……he played baseball at the University of Florida. Go Gators.
bravesgrl4life
July 29th, 2012
1:48 pm
It is really sad. Huddy has a .200 avg and Uggla only .209. Frightening
nolie
July 29th, 2012
1:49 pm
Bourn under 300. guy is falling apart. soon will be back to a 90 OPS+ trade him for a starter
Keith
July 29th, 2012
1:49 pm
OH, just checked Moyer on the DL.
And by the way, he has like 2,400+
Jerry
July 29th, 2012
1:49 pm
Hey nolie, hypothetical situation. Wren has a chance to trade Delgado to the Cubs for Dempster and Reed Johnson. Do you make that trade? I’m on the fence a little. I don’t wanna give up Delgado and get Dempster, but I really want Johnson. Is it worth it?
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 29th, 2012
1:50 pm
GONE!!!! JHEY!
Venice Jim
July 29th, 2012
1:50 pm
JASON!!!
Pace
July 29th, 2012
1:50 pm
DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP – ok JHEY!!!!
Chris from the Rock
July 29th, 2012
1:50 pm
Yawn.
bravesgrl4life
July 29th, 2012
1:51 pm
HEYWARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Keith
July 29th, 2012
1:51 pm
Re: nolie
You are off your rocker about Bourn. He’s been our MVP this year by far. Last week he had a game winning hit. He usually fluctuates around .300 or a little below. He will be fine.
I love knee-jerk fans in a game with 162 games. Irony kills me.
Go BRAVES!
TNScott
July 29th, 2012
1:51 pm
J-HEY!!!!!!
nolie
July 29th, 2012
1:51 pm
Heyward is such a bumb
Bama Brave
July 29th, 2012
1:51 pm
JHEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NORRIS
July 29th, 2012
1:51 pm
basically your looking at the braves have only 6 innings to score runs because the bottom 3 never get on.
JC Brave
July 29th, 2012
1:51 pm
BOOM!
Go Braves!
Bravefaninok
July 29th, 2012
1:51 pm
Damn first pitch swingin……ohhhh nevermind,WTG J-Hey!
LAG
July 29th, 2012
1:51 pm
Wind resistance? What wind resistance?
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 29th, 2012
1:51 pm
Bourn under 300. guy is falling apart. soon will be back to a 90 OPS+ trade him for a starter
Pay him 15 mil nolie??? lol
B_F 54
July 29th, 2012
1:52 pm
J Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey!!!
BFChris27
July 29th, 2012
1:52 pm
JHey!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Old Man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Venice Jim
July 29th, 2012
1:52 pm
Nice job, Chipper!
Jerry
July 29th, 2012
1:52 pm
I was just thinking that Halladay is looking good early and then Heyward steps up and I thought, wasn’t it Halladay that Heyward hit a homer off the first time he saw him? And bam, there it goes.
Mark
July 29th, 2012
1:52 pm
Jhey smoked that one.
Did you notice how he was busting it out of the box when he hit it.
Great job!!!
JC Brave
July 29th, 2012
1:53 pm
I love knee-jerk fans in a game with 162 games.
Every game counts. Ask the 2011 Atlanta Braves, If you have any doubts.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 29th, 2012
1:53 pm
Amaro: I wouldn’t mind if you traded Victorino and Pence like right now…. get them out of the game
Jerry
July 29th, 2012
1:53 pm
My bad, it was Freeman. But now it’s Heyward also.
nolie
July 29th, 2012
1:53 pm
Bourn is a bumb. trade him for Dempster and Johnson.
The Dude Abides... Still
July 29th, 2012
1:53 pm
You have to be kidding. There is no way that McCann would be your everyday DH in the American League.
Be A Grinderer
July 29th, 2012
1:54 pm
Not what you want to hear from Fredi. He is fine with Uggla not hitting. That’s sad. Can we get a new manager and a new 2b ?
Jerry
July 29th, 2012
1:54 pm
First and second and in an ideal world Ross should be coming up, but it’s Uggla instead to kill the rally.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 29th, 2012
1:54 pm
don’t swing 1st pitch Dan >.<
Get a hit right here… PLEASE
JC Brave
July 29th, 2012
1:54 pm
wasn’t it Halladay that Heyward hit a homer off the first time he saw him?
That was Freddie.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 29th, 2012
1:54 pm
YEAH!!!! Dan Uggla is back!
Venice Jim
July 29th, 2012
1:54 pm
UGGS!!!
BFChris27
July 29th, 2012
1:54 pm
Uggla!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pace
July 29th, 2012
1:55 pm
Uggs – nice job, let’s hope this is a start!!!
TNScott
July 29th, 2012
1:55 pm
DAN!!!!
nolie
July 29th, 2012
1:55 pm
who was that guy who hit that double?
bravesgrl4life
July 29th, 2012
1:55 pm
The Doc is good for Uggla!!!
Bama Brave
July 29th, 2012
1:55 pm
OMG UGGLA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 29th, 2012
1:55 pm
The Doc is giving out the medicine…
Mark
July 29th, 2012
1:55 pm
Uggla with a hit. Go buy your lottery tickets today!!!
LAG
July 29th, 2012
1:55 pm
Daniel Cooley Uggla with a productive AB against his favorite pitcher.
Bravefaninok
July 29th, 2012
1:55 pm
Gotta let him play through it,Just what the doctor ordered.
The Dude Abides... Still
July 29th, 2012
1:55 pm
uggla doing everything he can to get his at bat over as soon as possible. I am posting after the double. He just goes up there swinging at every pitch praying it get hit somehow.
Be A Grinderer
July 29th, 2012
1:55 pm
About time. Save that ball for Uggla.
Chris from the Rock
July 29th, 2012
1:55 pm
Halladay clearly isn’t himself. Not that I’m going to lose any sleep over it.
archie
July 29th, 2012
1:55 pm
Outstanding. That buys Uggla 10 more starts, 40 more at-bats, probably 3 more hits.
Jerry
July 29th, 2012
1:55 pm
Okay Uggla, I’m now bending over so you can kick me square in the ass. I’ll accept it. Good job. Hope it’s the start we’ve been looking for.
David O'Brien
July 29th, 2012
1:56 pm
Halladay looks real average right now.
Uggla snapped 0-for-21 with that 2-out RBI double
CB
July 29th, 2012
1:56 pm
DAN UGGLA- THANK GOD, I AM FREE AT LAST!
JC Brave
July 29th, 2012
1:56 pm
Hey, keep bitching about Uggla.. It’s working!
space monkey
July 29th, 2012
1:56 pm
Say what you want about Uggla, but he’s a team player. Mired in his terrible slump, he was the first guy to congratulate Heyward in the dugout. And after that last hit, maybe the sleeping giant will awake.
Mark
July 29th, 2012
1:56 pm
Rossy
Don’t be bunting now with Janish coming up with 2 out!
Tampa Gator
July 29th, 2012
1:56 pm
Jerry….
What did you say…..just so glad you are not the Braves manager……
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 29th, 2012
1:56 pm
who was that guy who hit that double?
His name is Dan Uggla.
keylargo
July 29th, 2012
1:57 pm
This may be the start for Uggla. His 33 game hitting streak was in July and Aug last year.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 29th, 2012
1:57 pm
And to think I let Halladay start on my fantasy team.
that ball was in the dirt…
nolie
July 29th, 2012
1:57 pm
that was terrible Ross
Pace
July 29th, 2012
1:57 pm
25 pitch first inning for Halladay – and he doesn’t like the heat! We may not see too much more of him today. Wait, controversy already????
Tampa Gator
July 29th, 2012
1:58 pm
archie…..
Or…with a Braves fan’s cup half full…..it puts Uggla into a 32 game hitting streak.
BFChris27
July 29th, 2012
1:58 pm
Inning continues!!!!!!!!!!!
The Dude Abides... Still
July 29th, 2012
1:58 pm
The braves are riley
LAG
July 29th, 2012
1:58 pm
LOL WHAT?
Jerry
July 29th, 2012
1:58 pm
Should’ve been the third out. I didn’t see it hit the ground.
nolie
July 29th, 2012
1:59 pm
Yawn is so overmatched
mike
July 29th, 2012
1:59 pm
No one ever answers the question about a second base replacement for uggly. Doesn’t Gwinnett have a player at that position? gonzalez has blind faith in this guy and he doesn’t deserve it. this has been going on long enough and requires a change. he is a drag on the team and they win in spite of him. get someone else in there and do it now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pace
July 29th, 2012
1:59 pm
Caught a break there, didn’t matter, but maybe the Phillies get a bit frustrated – nice 1st for the Braves.
LAG
July 29th, 2012
1:59 pm
Well, that was fun while it lasted.
Funny how Halladay recorded his 2000th K but it didn’t result in an out.
The Dude Abides... Still
July 29th, 2012
1:59 pm
Good job Ross…. Way to clear the Janish this inning.
Mark
July 29th, 2012
2:00 pm
JC
Awful lot of bitchin went on between his last hit and that one. I think the last one was about 3 inches inside the left field line but its been a while and my memory could be playing tricks on me.
archie
Nice one. You are probably right on there!
Jerry
July 29th, 2012
2:00 pm
Love these early runs. The Braves starters do so much better when they don’t have to be so fine. For a while there, they were always behind.
Be A Grinderer
July 29th, 2012
2:00 pm
Come back now Simmons. Janish hitting. 150 and strands 3 runners.
LAG
July 29th, 2012
2:00 pm
Mike – Uggla has half our RBIs so far today. Just enjoy the game.
nolie
July 29th, 2012
2:01 pm
woulda been nice to get those other two
Be A Grinderer
July 29th, 2012
2:01 pm
Chipper shoulda scored on the double.
Chris from the Rock
July 29th, 2012
2:03 pm
RE: trades…How about Braves receive Shawn Camp and Reed Johnson for Tommy LaStella, Yohan Flande and Chasen Shreve.
Mark
July 29th, 2012
2:03 pm
Ump is really tight today. Plate has no corners. Unless the heat gets to the ump and corners come into play could be a few hits and runs scored today.
Mark
July 29th, 2012
2:05 pm
Huddy is getting ill
Jerry
July 29th, 2012
2:06 pm
nolie,
Did you see my post at 1:49?
nolie
July 29th, 2012
2:06 pm
huh? Chipper did score
Kris
July 29th, 2012
2:06 pm
UGGLA RBI DOUBLE
Keith
July 29th, 2012
2:06 pm
Hey DOB,
Any thoughts on who the Braves may be targeting for a relief pitcher?
Go Braves – SWEEEP!!
bravesgrl4life
July 29th, 2012
2:08 pm
I hate this SunTrust commercial, but have to confess I’ve gone back to SunTrust myself. Our local branch is fantastic. And since PNC Bank decided they don’t want me as an employee, I see no reason to keep my $$ with PNC.
nolie
July 29th, 2012
2:08 pm
sorry Jer, somehow I missed it. I would seriously consider that and would definitely do it if they could extend Dempster. Like you, I see it as either way i guess
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 29th, 2012
2:09 pm
Wow Huddy, trying to take out your competition I see
JNick
July 29th, 2012
2:10 pm
Yes
Mark
July 29th, 2012
2:10 pm
Huddy – “If Uggla can get a hit I can to”
May have a higher average than Dan now too.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 29th, 2012
2:10 pm
Dang, these guys are trying to hit Doc!!!
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 29th, 2012
2:11 pm
dang it, Hey…
Pace
July 29th, 2012
2:11 pm
This umps’ strike zone is certainly generous for Halladay !
nolie
July 29th, 2012
2:12 pm
ump seems to like the pitches up a bit
JNick
July 29th, 2012
2:13 pm
Sounds like Doc might be outta there by the 4th inning…
Mark
July 29th, 2012
2:14 pm
Cmon Jhey. Base Hit Time!
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 29th, 2012
2:14 pm
JHey is doing the Juan/Rev… fouling off all these pitches
Pace
July 29th, 2012
2:15 pm
That’s it JHey – make him work, he doesn’t like the heat – he’s working hard – let’s see the bullpen.
Jerry
July 29th, 2012
2:15 pm
Great at bat Jason.
JC Brave
July 29th, 2012
2:15 pm
Fudge…
Mark
July 29th, 2012
2:15 pm
Nice battle there Heyward
David O'Brien
July 29th, 2012
2:15 pm
Heyward fouled off 5 straight pitches, then took ball 2. Then struck out with Huddy at 3rd to end inning. Halladay 44 pitches in 2 innings.
nolie
July 29th, 2012
2:15 pm
good to make Doc throw 10 pitches, but Huddy out there in the heat all that time too.
welikebaseball2
July 29th, 2012
2:17 pm
#1, I’m glad Heyward’s silenced the blog critics calling for his job after his second, injured filled season. Didn’t know how much more I could take of the tired, lame, uncreative “Wayward” moniker. #2, I don’t care how confident Uggla is in himself. That confidence isn’t giving us offensive results. He’s a streaky hitter, in the worse way. I’m going to say that I think we should consider trading him. This is obviously his pattern. Though a hot Uggla can carry a team, a cold Uggla hurts the team…and he’s cold more often than he is hot.
Jerry
July 29th, 2012
2:19 pm
nolie,
I think where we differ is that I really don’t wanna see him extended because of his age and the fact that he is a power pitcher. Lowe wasn’t even a power pitcher and that signing didn’t work out. I would rather wait for Beachy to come back and hope that Teheran and Vizcaino are with the big club. Of course, that is all contingent on if we can have Sheets with us next year. Lotta ifs I suppose.
Pace
July 29th, 2012
2:20 pm
Ok – take this sac bunt and throw him out at 2nd – let Halladay stay on base
JNick
July 29th, 2012
2:21 pm
Gilmartin will probably be in the rotation next year too – he’ll leapfrog Teheran.
JC Brave
July 29th, 2012
2:22 pm
Who the heck is Kevin Frandsen?
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
2:22 pm
Really nice column on the Uggla slump, DOB. I’ve not been a great fan of Fredi’s, but his discussion of how to manage Uggla and the team through the slump reveals a thoughtful and deliberate plan. Maybe the most revealing interview with fredi of the year.
Tampa Gator
July 29th, 2012
2:22 pm
If Gilmartin (FSU) makes it into the Braves rotation next year…..Ross ( U of F) should always be his catcher. That way….he has a chance at winning a game in the major leagues.
Venice Jim
July 29th, 2012
2:22 pm
Lombarfreakindozzi with a leadoff HR for the Nats…
Jerry
July 29th, 2012
2:23 pm
#1, I’m glad Heyward’s silenced the blog critics calling for his job after his second, injured filled season. Didn’t know how much more I could take of the tired, lame, uncreative “Wayward” moniker. #2, I don’t care how confident Uggla is in himself. That confidence isn’t giving us offensive results. He’s a streaky hitter, in the worse way. I’m going to say that I think we should consider trading him. welikeball2
So, you got irritated when people were down on Heyward, but then follow it up by being down on Uggla. How consistant is that?
nolie
July 29th, 2012
2:24 pm
keep that damn gator away from Gil…
Jerry
July 29th, 2012
2:24 pm
JC Brave,
I said the same thing. Never heard of him.
JNick
July 29th, 2012
2:25 pm
LOL @Tampa – with Ross being the joker that he is, could you imagine the hazing Gilmartin will get in spring training next year? Should be funny to read about.
CHIPPA!!!
The Dude Abides... Still
July 29th, 2012
2:25 pm
Chipper just went yickity too
Venice Jim
July 29th, 2012
2:25 pm
YICKITYYY!!!
Chris from the Rock
July 29th, 2012
2:25 pm
On cue–yicketty.
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
2:26 pm
“He’s a streaky hitter, in the worse way.”
Worse than what?
Bama Brave
July 29th, 2012
2:26 pm
OLD MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LAG
July 29th, 2012
2:26 pm
Chipper goes yickety?
Sounds corny as ever, but I’ll take the result.
Pace
July 29th, 2012
2:26 pm
Yicketty! nice Chipper
Jerry
July 29th, 2012
2:26 pm
If Gilmartin (FSU) makes it into the Braves rotation next year…..Ross ( U of F) should always be his catcher. That way….he has a chance at winning a game in the major leagues. Tampa Gator
Makes no sense. Sorry.
BFChris27
July 29th, 2012
2:26 pm
Old Man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JC Brave
July 29th, 2012
2:26 pm
CHIPPAH!!!
B_F 54
July 29th, 2012
2:26 pm
hossarama
Bravefaninok
July 29th, 2012
2:26 pm
Shut up tom….the old man goes yard!
TNScott
July 29th, 2012
2:26 pm
CHIPPER “MAMMO” JONES!!!!!!
JNick
July 29th, 2012
2:26 pm
Not sure where I read it, but look up Chipper’s stats when leading off an inning this year. Ridiculous. He showed it again.
Juan
July 29th, 2012
2:26 pm
Chipper went to see the DOC
Venice Jim
July 29th, 2012
2:27 pm
And now Huddy can put his 2,341 – 2 record with a 3 run lead on the line…
Pace
July 29th, 2012
2:27 pm
Nicely timed little spot there by Tom Hart – so far, this is fun!
David O'Brien
July 29th, 2012
2:27 pm
Chipper 1,042 extra-base hits now, moves ahead of Pete Rose into 2nd on all-time extra-base hits list for switch-hitters
Tampa Gator
July 29th, 2012
2:27 pm
Hey…..Chip “went to see” the Doc today……
TexanBrave
July 29th, 2012
2:27 pm
Congrats Chipper on the BOMB
Mark
July 29th, 2012
2:27 pm
Welike
I have struggled with that as well the last couple years. Maybe not struggled but questioned why Heyward was just murdered on here by most it seemed(when he was obviously hurt) yet Uggla can be horrindous(with no injuries) for days, weeks and months on end yet “he’ll break out of it” is seen much more than it was with JHey.
I have a theory but I wont mention it.
Tampa Gator
July 29th, 2012
2:28 pm
Juan…
You were faster.
Mark
July 29th, 2012
2:28 pm
May want to hold off of those lottery tickets after all
David O'Brien
July 29th, 2012
2:29 pm
Eddie Murray’s 1,099 extra-base hits is the all-time leader for switch-hitters, then Chipper (1,042), Rose (1,042), Mantle (952)
JNick
July 29th, 2012
2:29 pm
@Mark, I have about 12 million theories…as in, dollars.
Ralph
July 29th, 2012
2:30 pm
Fredi G finds a silver lining in everything
BFChris27
July 29th, 2012
2:30 pm
Janish goes deep here.
Tampa Gator
July 29th, 2012
2:30 pm
Jerry….
If I have to explain that to you……you do not follow college football. FSU (Gilmartin)……U o F (Ross)…..needs a Gator catcher to help him win…..DUH.
Mark
July 29th, 2012
2:30 pm
Cmon Yanish. Get on so Huddy can bat and we can statrt at the top next inning
BFChris27
July 29th, 2012
2:31 pm
Or not
Tampa Gator
July 29th, 2012
2:31 pm
Jerry….
I think Conzalez could have figured out that one…….just saying.
Jerry
July 29th, 2012
2:31 pm
First time today the ump has given either pitcher that call on the third base side of the plate.
B_F 54
July 29th, 2012
2:31 pm
Gio just walked in a run nats 1 Brew crew 1
Chris from the Rock
July 29th, 2012
2:32 pm
The way Pie is playing in Gwinnett, it’s high time he’s added to the 40 man and brought up in September. There’s a ton of dead weight on the 40 man. Viz and Beachy can be moved to 60-day DL and Cordier should be DFA’d.
David O'Brien
July 29th, 2012
2:32 pm
Hoss Battle Axe is now 10-for-18 with three homers off Doc Halladay
TNScott
July 29th, 2012
2:32 pm
Hey DOB, I thought just passed Rose.
nolie
July 29th, 2012
2:32 pm
passes Rose with what about 6000 fewer PAs?
Mark
July 29th, 2012
2:32 pm
Ump may be sweating more now. Rings up Yawnish on a pitch that hasn’t been called all day.
Chris from the Rock
July 29th, 2012
2:33 pm
Brew Crew up 2-1.
B_F 54
July 29th, 2012
2:33 pm
Brew crew 2 its on tbs and its my birthday 54 lets gain one for me
welikebaseball2
July 29th, 2012
2:33 pm
Jerry: Hmmm…you misunderstand. I’ll explain. Firstly, I wasn’t “irritated” with people being down on Heyward. When a player slumps it happens. I was simply tired of the copycat bloggers that picked up on using the same tired “Wayward” moniker. Secondly, funny you should mention “consistant”…that’s exactly what differentiates my feelings about the two. Heyward was in his second season. Only a third season would allow an objective call on what his pattern would be. So, for folks to call for his job at that point was bandwagon-ism/fanaticism at it’s best. Uggla, however, has consistently shown a pattern of offensive extremes throughout his career & it’s hurt us more than it’s helped us.
Pace
July 29th, 2012
2:33 pm
Halladay at 60 pitches through 3 innings, he’s not long for this game and the ump is loosening up a bit it appears. Let’s see this half inning.
Jerry
July 29th, 2012
2:34 pm
If I have to explain that to you……you do not follow college football. FSU (Gilmartin)……U o F (Ross)…..needs a Gator catcher to help him win…..DUH. Tampa Gator
No, I got that reference. I’m just trying to understand how a Gator helps a Seminole to win. That makes no sense.
nolie
July 29th, 2012
2:34 pm
Pie absolutely sukks in the bigs
Braves fan always
July 29th, 2012
2:35 pm
chipper always does good when he doesnt go to hooters
JNick
July 29th, 2012
2:35 pm
Maybe we should trade for Victorino…move Prado to 2B…Uggla becomes a $13mil bench player
JC Brave
July 29th, 2012
2:36 pm
They should have traded the stupid hawaian before the game…
TexanBrave
July 29th, 2012
2:36 pm
Need to score 4 to win this one……..getting warm…….this may go Venters in the 7th to hold it….
Braves fan always
July 29th, 2012
2:36 pm
Enter your comments here
TNScott
July 29th, 2012
2:36 pm
Still no love for Huddy from Cedarstrom.
Frankie
July 29th, 2012
2:37 pm
“Hairston or Reed Johnson. do it now”
Now your’re talking. Said Hairston couple weeks back and you busted on me last year pining for Reed Johnson. You did a 360 though to your credit.
keylargo
July 29th, 2012
2:37 pm
Eddie Murray’s 1,099 extra-base hits is the all-time leader for switch-hitters, then Chipper (1,042), Rose (1,042), Mantle (952)
I hate to say this but Chipper ain’t gonna catch Eddie Murray.
Tampa Gator
July 29th, 2012
2:37 pm
Jerry….
The ex-Seminole has enough sense to be on the same team as a Gator…..and the Gator always wants to win championships.
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
2:38 pm
JC–what’s his being Hawaiian have to do with it? You oughta do a spell check then an intelligence test before you write that shyt.
Braves fan always
July 29th, 2012
2:38 pm
if u cant stand the heat get out of the kitchen
JNick
July 29th, 2012
2:38 pm
“I blame Al Gore…”
LOL…awesome.
Ralph
July 29th, 2012
2:38 pm
Uggla finally had a ball accidentally hit his bat so he now has his hit for the next month so Fredi will continue running him out there
welikebaseball2
July 29th, 2012
2:39 pm
@Mark: Agreed. @WoodyWoodward: What I mean by “worse way” is that some streaky hitters go hot & cold for a couple weeks at a time. In the case of Uggla, he goes hot & cold for a couple months at a time…which is, in my opinion, far less tolerable.
Mark
July 29th, 2012
2:39 pm
Theory to the question of why left handers like the ball down and in.
I’ve always thought it may be due to the fact that a lot of left hand hitters are right hand throwers which is obviously their lead arm in the swing. Easier to drop the head and get the barrel to the low and in ball?
Again – Just a theory. As good as any other reason I guess.
Braves fan always
July 29th, 2012
2:39 pm
this is a blod woody
who gives a shyt about spelling
TexanBrave
July 29th, 2012
2:39 pm
Does anyone know Alfonso Soriano’s contract terms/dates?…………He’s fnally getting healthy and might be a piece if only for month’s or even next year….
Braves fan always
July 29th, 2012
2:39 pm
loser
Braves fan always
July 29th, 2012
2:40 pm
First again
Tampa Gator
July 29th, 2012
2:40 pm
Nick…
Victorino is hitting just slightly better than Uggla….with no power. Glad you are not the Braves GM.
Mark
July 29th, 2012
2:41 pm
JNick
Wish we could be that lucky!!
Braves fan always
July 29th, 2012
2:41 pm
texan brave
ever heard of google
it works wonders
nolie
July 29th, 2012
2:41 pm
busted on you? I have pushed for Reed last season and this one after you brought him up
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
2:41 pm
Byte me, braves fan. I’m objecting to the phrase “stupid Hawaiian.” Its offensive, blockhead.
Tampa Gator
July 29th, 2012
2:42 pm
TexanBrave…..
No team has wanted to keep him on their roster for very long…..for good reason. The Cubs have been unable to dump him and his enormous salary…..but they have certainly tried….many times. No takers.
JNick
July 29th, 2012
2:42 pm
…with no power – yet he just took Huddy out. Anyway, I was being facetious. Like sarcasm, that obviously doesn’t transition well into typed communication.
Pace
July 29th, 2012
2:42 pm
DOB already did the Trivia Q for us
Chris from the Rock
July 29th, 2012
2:44 pm
Nolie,
I’m not saying Pie would be a savior, just that he’s probably a better option than Georgie. Pie is still just 27, he’s just was never able to meet expectations. I think he’d be a serviceable 4th OF in the bigs.
JC Brave
July 29th, 2012
2:44 pm
Woody:
Wow… because I missed an “i”?
Who cares about spelling in a blog? And this is not even my native language…
And him being Hawaiian has everything to do with me calling him Hawaiian, so what? Did you find it racist? Your problem then…
nolie
July 29th, 2012
2:44 pm
Bourn sukks so much. can we DFA him??
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
2:45 pm
Yeah, I do think it’s racist. If the shoe fits…
Braves fan always
July 29th, 2012
2:45 pm
breaking news
Frank Wrenn announced the signing of greg norton
Says this is the piece we need to win the world series
LOLOLOL
nolie
July 29th, 2012
2:46 pm
native language? y’all spell Hawaii differently???
JNick
July 29th, 2012
2:46 pm
(but right now, I’d take a .260 hitter over a guy flirting with the Mendoza line…and with half the strikeouts too)
JC Brave
July 29th, 2012
2:47 pm
Enjoy your shoe then…
Braves fan always
July 29th, 2012
2:47 pm
BOTH BOURN AND PRADO ARE 0/3,0/6 OVERALL
Trade both these bums now
Jerry
July 29th, 2012
2:47 pm
The ex-Seminole has enough sense to be on the same team as a Gator…..and the Gator always wants to win championships. Tampa Gator
Again, that is just dumb. I enjoy SEC football, but will never understand the incessant chest beating, especially when you currently have a shytty team.
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
2:48 pm
We speak American out here, nolie.
Tampa Gator
July 29th, 2012
2:48 pm
JNick….
Following the game by gamecast on ESPN…..I am behind the actual game. But….Victorino….has very little power then.
Nolie….
Are you serious….”Bourn sucks”…..you talking about the all-star CF….great defensive CF….great base stealer….CF…..nearly .300 batting average CF…..great team player….CF……
Yeah boy….Bourn really sucks…..DFA and bring up Pie.
Braves fan always
July 29th, 2012
2:49 pm
29th
Mark
July 29th, 2012
2:49 pm
Tampa
Victorino is about 50 points higher in average, only 4 less in homers, struck out half the number of times and has stolen 20 to 25 bases.
Its not gonna happen but what wouldn’t be good about that swap straight up?
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
2:49 pm
Not mine, you’re wearing it
JC Brave
July 29th, 2012
2:49 pm
Someone from “Hawái” is a “Hawaiano” in spanish, nolie.
Tampa Gator
July 29th, 2012
2:50 pm
Jerry….
It has nothing to do with chest beating…..an all to do with being a proud alumni of a great university and great football program……and the team does not currently suck. It sucked in 2010….sucked less in 2011….and will not suck in 2012.
nolie
July 29th, 2012
2:50 pm
.DFA and bring up Pie….dumb ol’ Gator
good idea!!!
Frankie
July 29th, 2012
2:50 pm
Nope, I called out Reed Johnson and you quickly pointed out his career stats and impulsively weren’t lauding him. Like I said, you did a 360 after a couple of days and were pushing him.
I like Hairston and little more right now but a deal with Cubs if anything transpires would probably be more logical if Reed ever came aboard. I still don’t intradivision trading of Hairston would be that big of a obtacle though.
We both are very much in agreement that this club is too lefthander oriented though. This team really needs to address if not this season with deals, in the offseason especially considering Bourn issue.
foultip
July 29th, 2012
2:50 pm
With what we are paying Uggla, he could go into a negative batting average and Liberty Mutal is going to play him every day.
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
2:50 pm
Hawai’i
JC Brave
July 29th, 2012
2:50 pm
I believe you should keep your shoe, because it obviously doesn’t fit me…
But whatever floats your boat!
TNScott
July 29th, 2012
2:51 pm
Two chicken crap hits.
Braves fan always
July 29th, 2012
2:51 pm
Bourn sucks has only 28 sbases this year
How much u wanna bet he has at least 50 next year with the nats?
He will prob.steal 7 bases against braves next year with fat so mccann catching
Mark
July 29th, 2012
2:52 pm
2 see and eye hits
nolie
July 29th, 2012
2:52 pm
bummer. I don’t think it is a good idea to score early for Tim. he gives them all back anymore….
Braves fan always
July 29th, 2012
2:53 pm
foultip
wake up
its liberty media not liberty mutual
you must also think why is prdo not playing ss also?
shoe man
JC Brave
July 29th, 2012
2:53 pm
Kevin “No One Knows Who I Am” Frandsen with another hit…
Mark
July 29th, 2012
2:53 pm
Gotta be careful here with Pieere on 3rd could almost be like a safety squeeze
keylargo
July 29th, 2012
2:53 pm
Josh Johnson went five innings and gave up 2 runs on 2 hits. Not sure why he’s out after 5 unless it’s related to the blister/callus that caused him to come out of the last start vs Braves.
He remains my hope for the Braves to get before the trading deadline.
Tampa Gator
July 29th, 2012
2:54 pm
Mark….
When the season ends…..Victorino will not be 4 less HRs than Uggla or anywhere near in RBIs. But he is a much better average and on base player. But I would not trade Uggla for him…..
Jerry
July 29th, 2012
2:54 pm
Sheets is a true professional. All pitchers should wanna work hard on their bunting.
ITS ME
July 29th, 2012
2:54 pm
Dog the Bounty hunter lives in Hawaii, thus he is a Hawaiian or what ever you call it. Now there is a stupid Hawaiian…
TexanBrave
July 29th, 2012
2:55 pm
Tampa Gator…. I agree regarding Alfoso but lived in Chicago from ‘07-’09 and boy when he’s “on”…….he can change the manager’s thinking and in the 6 hole behind #10 and in front of Freeman, what a difference in power from the right side………….free swinger though and with Uggla behind him…..hmmmm…Was hoping he would be the rental RH RBI machine that could be “lightning in a bottle” like Sheets has been………just missing that RH bat and dependable starter to save the pen for the stretch t come….
Braves fan always
July 29th, 2012
2:55 pm
prado
Pace
July 29th, 2012
2:55 pm
Keylargo – 95 pitches – six walks in those five innings – probably got worn out
Tampa Gator
July 29th, 2012
2:55 pm
You guys keep on talking about Johnson. He is one pitch away from the “all year DL”….every time he pitches.
Braves fan always
July 29th, 2012
2:57 pm
braves had a chance to get sanchez and infante from the marlins for delgado and rev
dumb move by the braves
Mark
July 29th, 2012
2:58 pm
Straight up trade I’d take Victorino over Uggla right now, yesterday, last year or next year.
But thats the great thing about the blog. We can share ideas and knock things around and agree to disagree, huh?
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
2:59 pm
Sorry, ITS ME. Living in Hawaii does not make one “Hawaiian.” At least that’s the way it works here in Hawaii.
Bravefaninok
July 29th, 2012
2:59 pm
Tampa Gator
July 29th, 2012
2:55 pm
You guys keep on talking about Johnson. He is one pitch away from the “all year DL”….every time he pitches.
This!!! Josh is damn good when he pitches,but not likely to be healthy for a playoff push.
Braves fan always
July 29th, 2012
2:59 pm
braves hold your money
i trade bourn now he is gone next year,get something for him now,play constanza sign hamilton as our left fielder
we are set
Pace
July 29th, 2012
3:00 pm
Wow – that ump has REALLY expanded his zone to the outside corner!
Braves fan always
July 29th, 2012
3:00 pm
IMO
Jerry
July 29th, 2012
3:00 pm
It has nothing to do with chest beating…..an all to do with being a proud alumni of a great university and great football program……and the team does not currently suck. It sucked in 2010….sucked less in 2011….and will not suck in 2012. tampa Gator
If you say so. They sure looked bad the last time I saw them though. maybe we define it differently. What were they ranked last year?
nolie
July 29th, 2012
3:00 pm
But he is a much better average and on base player….Gator
much better OBP player? Uggla , in the midst of a terrible slump, has a much better OBP that Victorino, and about the same career
TNScott
July 29th, 2012
3:00 pm
Speaking of Hawaiians: Does anyone remember who the Hawaiian starting pitcher that wore #50 in honor of his state was?
Chris from the Rock
July 29th, 2012
3:00 pm
With over 2100 hits under his belt, Juan Pierre just might get to 3,000, depending on how much longer he plays. Turning 35 next month, it’s a distinct possibility. Correct me if I’m wrong, but Pete Rose and Rafael Palmeiro are the only players in the 3000 hit club not in the HOF (other than Biggio who might get in). Not saying Pierre is HOF material, but he’s been had a better career than you think, other than having the worst OF arm in MLB history.
Jerry
July 29th, 2012
3:01 pm
Mark,
I agree.
Tampa Gator
July 29th, 2012
3:01 pm
Nolie….
That was sarcasim directed at….Jerry….who said Bourn was terrible….read the entire post next time.
bravesgrl4life
July 29th, 2012
3:01 pm
Chipper got robbed there. Neither of the last 2 strikes were strikes.
TuffShhhtuff
July 29th, 2012
3:02 pm
Kinda funny that CJ uses “Battle Axe” to describe himself. Wasn’t but just a few years ago that the term “battle axe” was used in the South to describe a “wife”. In fact, I worked with a guy that called his “Ol Battle Axe” to her face. (Well, she actually was, and a “B” to boot)
Braves fan always
July 29th, 2012
3:02 pm
ON GAMEDAY THOSE STRIKES WERE WAY OUTSIDE
UMP HAVE A DATE WITH CHIPPER AT HOOTERS
Mark
July 29th, 2012
3:02 pm
Getting hotter for the Ump I guess to ring up Chipper on that one.
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
3:02 pm
El Sid.
JNick
July 29th, 2012
3:02 pm
Agree w/ Tampa, re: Johnson. No thanks.
Tampa Gator
July 29th, 2012
3:03 pm
Mark….
The Phils have Victorino on the trading block…..and there have been no takers so far. Wonder why?
TomahawkChoppin'
July 29th, 2012
3:03 pm
DOB is there any way that Mac gives us a hometown discount on his new contract? I know we have a option that only increases his salary by half a mil or a mi in 2013l. I know we would prob like to sign him to an extension, but worst case he is still under contract next year. The hometown discount would allow us to sign Bourn long term. Bourn long-term IMO is a no brainer.
Braves fan always
July 29th, 2012
3:04 pm
bravesgrl4life
July 29th, 2012
3:01 pm
Chipper got robbed there.
Yeah when his ex wife gets all of his money
B_F 54
July 29th, 2012
3:04 pm
3-1 brew crew in 3rd
Efrim
July 29th, 2012
3:04 pm
95 strikeouts for Heyward through 101 games. Not that it matters all that much – but more than I thought he would at this point.
Pace
July 29th, 2012
3:04 pm
The ump hasn’t been consistent between pitchers – Halladay w/83 pitches and 61 strikes? Really?? Huddy can’t get the outside strike called – or maybe I’m a bit biased, but…he’s definitely helping out Doc.
Venice Jim
July 29th, 2012
3:04 pm
Gio has given up a 3rd run…
N Nine
July 29th, 2012
3:05 pm
12 more outs until a PHILLIES SWEEP!!…again!
nolie
July 29th, 2012
3:05 pm
I read the entire post. I will comment on whatever I want to though thank you
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
3:05 pm
Victorino has some miles on him.
TNScott
July 29th, 2012
3:06 pm
Kudos to Woody. Okay next question: Which Brave will get tossed by Cedarstrom due to his inconsistent strike zone?
Tampa Gator
July 29th, 2012
3:07 pm
Nolie…..
But your comment was not a free shoe…..Nolie.
BFChris27
July 29th, 2012
3:07 pm
The Mariners are close to trading Brandon League to an unknown team, ESPN.com’s Jerry Crasnick reports (on Twitter).
Braves maybe?
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
3:07 pm
Won’t be Uggla, according to DOBs column.
Mark
July 29th, 2012
3:07 pm
Tampa
The question was posed Uggla for Victorino. I said I’d rather have him and gave reasons why.
Not suggesting it will happen.
Mark
July 29th, 2012
3:08 pm
Joe just threw my left hand hitting theory out there.
Frankie
July 29th, 2012
3:08 pm
Go Brew crew,
3 games out would be a sweet thing and even more inticing for FW to go out and get somebody(s) to make a run at the Senators, uhh I mean Nationals.
What ballpark did the Senators play at BTW?
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
3:08 pm
Brandon League from Hawaii
JC Brave
July 29th, 2012
3:09 pm
Here we go, BALLGAME!
nolie
July 29th, 2012
3:09 pm
Victorino 3-3 Woody
TuffShhhtuff
July 29th, 2012
3:09 pm
Any Philly in a Braves uniform would be sacrilegious, and almost oxyMORONic!
Tampa Gator
July 29th, 2012
3:09 pm
I am sure Chipper had a very good prenup on that second marriage after being taken to the cleaners on his first one……and after spending too much time at Hooters. He may look countryfied….but he is smart boy.
Jerry
July 29th, 2012
3:09 pm
Nolie….
That was sarcasim directed at….Jerry….who said Bourn was terrible….read the entire post next time. Tampa Gator
WHAT!? Maybe you should read the entire post son. I haven’t even mention Bourn in weeks. And that was nolie who was talking about Bourn, but he says thing like that and everyone knows he doesn’t mean any of it. You’d know that if you weren’t such a newbie.
Braves fan always
July 29th, 2012
3:10 pm
the guy who wore no 50 from hawii played with the mets
cant think of his name
he was a reliever
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
3:11 pm
Still rooting for my Bravos nolie. They need to pick him off.
TNScott
July 29th, 2012
3:11 pm
Griffith Stadium I think.
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
3:12 pm
Sid Fernandez, starter for the mets
TNScott
July 29th, 2012
3:12 pm
Sid Fernandez originally a starter.
Mark
July 29th, 2012
3:12 pm
Tampa
So far today Victorino has 2 more hits than Uggla, 1 less strikeout, the same number of RBIs, and 1 more HR – Just today. Just sayin!
Braves fan always
July 29th, 2012
3:12 pm
almost
keylargo
July 29th, 2012
3:12 pm
You have to tip your cap to Chipper on his retirement. He could have gotten 500 HR’s and passed Eddie Murray to have the most XBH for a switch hitter with another year (2013) under his belt.
He knew it was time and didn’t take the Braves money for a non CJ type of performance.
Dawg '88
July 29th, 2012
3:13 pm
Braves fan always….how about leaving the “hooters” reference to those who are not Braves fans….oh wait, you aren’t one. You are a fake. With those kind of words meant to be disparaging to Chipper, thats all the evidence one needs.
Those that continue to mention something so old and tiresome makes one wonder if its not you that has a fascination with “hooters”. Now go back to you playground.
Pace
July 29th, 2012
3:14 pm
Huddy over 100 pitches, gotta get out of this inning and turn it over to the pen.
Braves fan always
July 29th, 2012
3:14 pm
key largo
lol
chipper had to avg.123 games in which he didnt
its all about the money
Chris from the Rock
July 29th, 2012
3:14 pm
I hope not on League. He’s been at best the third best RP on the M’s staff this year. Would be a big overpay. I wouldn’t mind Casper Wells as our 4th OF though.
Skeezix
July 29th, 2012
3:16 pm
Wow. I just got home and I see where Uggla finally got a hit.
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
3:16 pm
Think the Ms took League out of the closer role earlier in the year.
Braves fan always
July 29th, 2012
3:16 pm
can say what i like to and yes i told him this in person.dawg 88
go watch replays of hershel walker on steriods
Chris from the Rock
July 29th, 2012
3:17 pm
Uggla needs to hold the tag longer. Victorino nearly slid past the bag.
keylargo
July 29th, 2012
3:17 pm
Woody W – obviously the guy dogging Hawaii doesn’t remember the kid from the “Hawaiian Punch” commercials. Tell him what can happen to a haole with an attitude in the islands.
Braves fan always
July 29th, 2012
3:18 pm
it is what it is
nolie
July 29th, 2012
3:18 pm
I hate Ruiz
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
3:18 pm
Victorino still holds the high school 100m dash record in Hawaii.
TuffShhhtuff
July 29th, 2012
3:18 pm
****Skeezix****I’m sure you’re aware of the “Blind Squirrel Theory”.
N Nine
July 29th, 2012
3:18 pm
Braves fan always-
There is no doubt he could play and get signed for 2013. Option or no option, he’s a Brave.
David O'Brien
July 29th, 2012
3:18 pm
Huddy gives up RBI single to Ruiz on 107th pitch, and that’s it. 2 out in 6th, leaves with 3-2 lead, Venters enters.
Braves fan always
July 29th, 2012
3:19 pm
the hawaiiiian is 3/3 today
Tater in Afghanistan
July 29th, 2012
3:19 pm
Everybody keeps talking about Pie. What kind of pie. I like pie. mmmmmmm Pie!
Jerry
July 29th, 2012
3:19 pm
The game is starting to get tedious. We need to get a little more offense going.
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
3:19 pm
True dat, key. Stupid is as stupid does, a great philosopher once said.
Chris from the Rock
July 29th, 2012
3:19 pm
I hate that fat piece of crap Chooch. Really, the guy was terrible until he was 32 years old.
JC Brave
July 29th, 2012
3:20 pm
I wish the Braves would foul off a dozen pitches off of Ruiz’ sack…
Braves fan always
July 29th, 2012
3:20 pm
DOB
what day of the week does the braves have the best rcord and what is it?
Braves fan always
July 29th, 2012
3:21 pm
lol@venters
nolie
July 29th, 2012
3:21 pm
Goin’ South
JC Brave
July 29th, 2012
3:22 pm
what day of the week does the braves have the best rcord and what is it?
Fridays.
Don
July 29th, 2012
3:22 pm
If Uggla holds the tag on Victorino – as his foot came off the bag at the end of his slide, but nope swipe tag and missed opportunity.
TuffShhhtuff
July 29th, 2012
3:23 pm
****BFA***** Heard on a show last night, it’s Friday and it’s 13-2
Mark
July 29th, 2012
3:23 pm
I know you don’t put the tying run on base but I wish we did a little better job of making guys that hurt us, and are hitting 358 or whatever it is now, hit tough pitches with a base open rather than putting balls down the middle with Nix due up.
Huddy did well though. Can’t be perfect with every pitch.
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
3:23 pm
Quick hook for jonny. Lefty or righty didn’t matter last year against jonny last year.
David O'Brien
July 29th, 2012
3:24 pm
what day of the week does the braves have the best rcord and what is it?
14-2 on Fridays, best in majors
Braves fan always
July 29th, 2012
3:24 pm
jc brave
come on ruiz is the hottest philly all season
blame hudson for this idiotic pitcher
No Flag Since Lemke
July 29th, 2012
3:24 pm
Today’s game a perfect example why you do not move Medlin to the rotation. He is in there right now and gives you one or two plus innings. Instead we burn two pitchers.
nolie
July 29th, 2012
3:25 pm
bad feelings are trying to creep into my mind about this, but I am trying to be strong
Tampa Gator
July 29th, 2012
3:25 pm
Mark….
Let me educate you about baseball……one pitch…..one out…..one inning…..one game…..one week…..one month……does not make a player. Uggla has been a good player in the majors for several years…..he is in a slump. They happen. He is an entirely different type of player than Victorino…..so…if you love Victorino and hate Uggla so much…..go become a Phils fan….oh….maybe you are.
TuffShhhtuff
July 29th, 2012
3:25 pm
From now on all Monday games will be played on Friday as part of a doubleheader!
Efrim
July 29th, 2012
3:25 pm
Would this be Kimbrel’s 3rd straight game?
BFChris27
July 29th, 2012
3:25 pm
White Sox looking at League
JNick
July 29th, 2012
3:26 pm
LOL…Pie..
nolie
July 29th, 2012
3:26 pm
sigh
Braves fan always
July 29th, 2012
3:26 pm
Thanks chief,best as always in what you do.
Btw dob,wilburs babecue in goldsboro,nc celebrated 50 years this week.
Iknow you have eaten there before.
JNick
July 29th, 2012
3:26 pm
@Efrim, I don’t think Kimbrel pitched in game 1 of this series, did he? Wasn’t a save situation…
Braves fan always
July 29th, 2012
3:27 pm
wilburs barbecue
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
3:27 pm
Ross get crossed up there?
Mark
July 29th, 2012
3:27 pm
Damn the ump is inconsistent as crap
Bravefaninok
July 29th, 2012
3:27 pm
Durbinator!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tampa Gator
July 29th, 2012
3:27 pm
No flag…..
And….on Tuesday….you will see why he was moved to the starting rotation….and if JJ was pitching Tuesday…..you would see why Chipper would have just taken the day off.
Mark
July 29th, 2012
3:28 pm
Thanks for the education. I feel more knowledgable already.
Braves fan always
July 29th, 2012
3:28 pm
milw.3
nats 1 bottom 4th
Skeezix
July 29th, 2012
3:29 pm
Overall a good outing by Huddy—very hot day, tough line up, and only 2 earned runs.
Bravesfaninnc
July 29th, 2012
3:30 pm
@BFChris27 I don’t get how the White Sox are looking at League when they have no good prospect to trade away
No Flag Since Lemke
July 29th, 2012
3:30 pm
Gator – yes we will when he goes five max and we burn four or five relievers.
Skeezix
July 29th, 2012
3:31 pm
There’s the Uggla we all know so well—pops up again.
Mark
July 29th, 2012
3:31 pm
That pop up didn’t help the way I feel though
BFChris27
July 29th, 2012
3:31 pm
Bravesfaninnc
Who knows, but KW got Brett Myers.
JNick
July 29th, 2012
3:32 pm
@Skeezix, don’t forget – an inconsistant ump!
Capt.Mudd
July 29th, 2012
3:32 pm
Uggla a no go….rain check….no…..wait for next one…yes–just like those darned 5.00 lottery tickets.
JNick
July 29th, 2012
3:33 pm
*inconsistent
ncbravesfan90
July 29th, 2012
3:33 pm
“Who knows, but KW got Brett Myers.”
And Liriano….and Youkilis….KW is not messing around. Going for it all this year.
JC Brave
July 29th, 2012
3:33 pm
What a great inning.
I have so much faith in winning this game.. NOT.
Tampa Gator
July 29th, 2012
3:33 pm
No flag…..
5 or 6 innings for Medlen in his first start….and zero to two runs would be highly welcomed……vs. 2 innings and 6 runs for JJ……and he will go 7 the next game, etc.
nolie
July 29th, 2012
3:34 pm
We shoulda scored more when we had the chance. always jumping out to an early lead and then stranding a buncha guys and them loosing…no urgency at all
Pace
July 29th, 2012
3:34 pm
Had Halladay on the ropes in the first 2-3 innings and just couldn’t put him away. He goes six and the Braves are only one run ahead. Bullpen better be strong.
BFChris27
July 29th, 2012
3:34 pm
ncbravesfan90
Yeah, them too.
TexanBrave
July 29th, 2012
3:34 pm
Senators played in RFK……………saw my first game live there in ‘69 with great seats down 1B line (DH day games with the Yanks)….saw Joe Pepitone hit a triple and Frank Howard hit one out……….) DOB, help me when the bloggers ask WHO on the above……………knew Venters would get in this game…………………we need one more insurance run…!!!
TNScott
July 29th, 2012
3:35 pm
Anyone notice the fact that Danica Patrick is advertising for the Atlanta 500? The question that needs to be asked is: What warmup lap will she crash and DNF on? The way she is going right now the only thing she needs to be advertising for is a wrecker service. And I’d say the same thing if it were a guy and have.
nolie
July 29th, 2012
3:35 pm
why are we picking on Dan today when he actually did something?
BFChris27
July 29th, 2012
3:35 pm
2:35pm: The Mariners are trying hard to obtain Brandon Belt, Dave Cameron of FanGraphs reports (on Twitter).
JNick
July 29th, 2012
3:35 pm
Medlen will be facing the Marlins AAA team after their injuries/firesale. I think he’ll have a great outing.
Pace
July 29th, 2012
3:36 pm
Janish – NICE play – just like I said the day the Braves got him – good glove, no bat.
Tampa Gator
July 29th, 2012
3:36 pm
Mark….
You are welcome……one other thing…..baseball contracts are based on annual and multi-annual production stats…..not one game, one week, one month……more englightenment for you.
Mark
July 29th, 2012
3:36 pm
A.nother nice play by Yawnish
nolie
July 29th, 2012
3:37 pm
is Fontenot about 5′5″ ?looks like a kid up there
JNick
July 29th, 2012
3:37 pm
@BFChris, so League to the Giants?
Ted
July 29th, 2012
3:37 pm
The difference with Uggla is that when he was having those better years, he was not getting 12M plus a year. He should be held to the standard of his current compensation, paid by fans in tickets, concessions, parking costs etc. This is not govt employment. He just is awful for the amount of money he is getting paid.
Tampa Gator
July 29th, 2012
3:37 pm
Remember at the start of the year when everyone was calling on Wren to dump Durbin and calling Gonzalez an idiot for sticking with him although he was struggling. Imagine if he and Wren had listened……ditto for Uggla.
Pace
July 29th, 2012
3:38 pm
Good inning – insurance time.
Jerry
July 29th, 2012
3:38 pm
Durbin has been so good since the end of April.
Bravefaninok
July 29th, 2012
3:39 pm
Durbinator….Now score some runs before this gets uggly.
Braves fan always
July 29th, 2012
3:39 pm
why do we need a reliever?
moylan be here soon and now we have jj,he good for 2 innings
Skeezix
July 29th, 2012
3:40 pm
From what I’ve seen the home plate ump does seem to be having a bad day. Bobby “the Master” Cox never hesitated to let the ump hear it when he thought one of his pitchers was getting screwed. Hope Uggla doesn’t go on one of those 0 for 20 streaks again.
Tampa Gator
July 29th, 2012
3:40 pm
Ted….
So…..you would bench him and still pay him all that money? I think Uggla knows full well what is expected of him…..and is trying his best to do it. But he never ever stops giving 110 percent on the field….and is the ultimate team player. GO DAN. GO BRAVES.
nolie
July 29th, 2012
3:40 pm
cause jj sukks and Moylan sukks against lefties
JNick
July 29th, 2012
3:41 pm
Moylan tweeted the other day that he’s battling some tendonitis…
Jerry
July 29th, 2012
3:42 pm
You are welcome……one other thing…..baseball contracts are based on annual and multi-annual production stats…..not one game, one week, one month……more englightenment for you. tampa Gator
You can definitely tell you are a gator. Comes from all those days of sleeping through class, or just not going to class.
BFChris27
July 29th, 2012
3:42 pm
JNick
Nah, I think League and Belt are two separate.
Mark
July 29th, 2012
3:42 pm
Yeah, yeah that Victorino guy really sucks. Wonder how many runs they’d have today if it weren’t for him. Oh, that would be ZERO.
Thanks for the enlightement though. Education and then Enlightenment. Can’t wait to see what you can do for me with your next post. Appreciate youe concern.
No Flag Since Lemke
July 29th, 2012
3:42 pm
Gator (and neighbor – live across the bay). From your lips to God’s ears, but I fear it ain’t happening. Agree on JJ but we seriously weaken our pen by removing Medlin.
Braves fan always
July 29th, 2012
3:43 pm
ted
not all players do that
guess u forgot braves lowe,kawakami,and who can ever forget hampton??
want more?soriano from the cubs owed 54 million through 2014,and good ole vernon wells from the angels
Tampa Gator
July 29th, 2012
3:43 pm
I wonder if the Phils regret letting Durbin go with there sorry pen situation? Maybe they would trade Victorino for Durbin? Nope….I would not make that deal either right……as Durbin is more valuable to the Braves right now.
Braves fan always
July 29th, 2012
3:44 pm
just a few
keylargo
July 29th, 2012
3:44 pm
braves fan always – Nope, you’re wrong dude. He had to play in that many games to guarantee his contract for next year. He announced before the season started he was retiring. Has nothing to do with how many games he played this year.
Besides, are you saying CJ could not play somewhere next year if it were just for the money?
JNick
July 29th, 2012
3:45 pm
Phils didn’t have Durbin, Nats did….
BFChris27
July 29th, 2012
3:45 pm
2:46pm: The Angels and Mariners are in talks for League, Alden Gonzalez of MLB.com reports. The Mariners could be close to trading League to the Giants or the Angels, Gonzalez writes.
Pace
July 29th, 2012
3:45 pm
Well it’s Sunday and the Rev makes an appearance – nice at bat.
ncbravesfan90
July 29th, 2012
3:45 pm
“Nah, I think League and Belt are two separate.”
Well I don’t know about that….
The Angels and Mariners are in talks for League, Alden Gonzalez of MLB.com reports. The Mariners could be close to trading League to the Giants or the Angels, Gonzalez writes.
David O'Brien
July 29th, 2012
3:46 pm
Pastornicky PH single on 8-pitch at-bat leading off 7th
Tampa Gator
July 29th, 2012
3:46 pm
No flag….
Not if Moylan comes back soon and pitches like he used to pitch….but that is a big if. But I have stated many times that Medlen should have been in the starting rotation several weeks ago and that Wren should have spent his time trying to get a end of game reliever….but he didn’t. So we wait on Moylan to get here and see what happens….I guess.
David O'Brien
July 29th, 2012
3:46 pm
Halladay: 6 IP, 6 H, 3 R (3 ER), 1 BB, 7 K.
Hudson: 5-2/3 IP, 7 H, 2 R (2 ER), 0 BB, 5 K.
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
3:46 pm
Hunger Pence fields and throws like a 1920s RF
Braves fan always
July 29th, 2012
3:47 pm
noile,ok i somewhat agree
lets be honest if our pitches stop going 5 innings,and go more like 7 innings like they have been then we r set with a reliever
lets say hanson gives up 5 runs and he will put jj in rest of the game
Capt.Mudd
July 29th, 2012
3:47 pm
All those flashes panning the crowd @Ted and not one is seen wearing a USA shirt–as The Olympic Games continue in day 2. Doesn’t matter–they have their Braves attire on.
Tampa Gator
July 29th, 2012
3:47 pm
JNick….
They did at one time…..I believe. But I will check.
bravesgrl4life
July 29th, 2012
3:47 pm
Marteen is due. Lets go, Prado!
JC Brave
July 29th, 2012
3:48 pm
Phils didn’t have Durbin, Nats did….
Wrong.
1953dawg
July 29th, 2012
3:48 pm
J.J. doesn’t suck, ask Fat Fredi.
nolie
July 29th, 2012
3:48 pm
we need about 4 walks
JNick
July 29th, 2012
3:48 pm
Phils last had Durbin in 2010. Durbin was with the Nats this year all thru spring training before they released him right at the end.
JC Brave
July 29th, 2012
3:49 pm
Durbin never played for the Nats.
He was a Phillie in 2009 and 2010.
BFChris27
July 29th, 2012
3:49 pm
Marteeeeeeeeeeeeeen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
George Stein
July 29th, 2012
3:49 pm
Yeesh. He ’bout took the pitcher’s face off.
BFChris27
July 29th, 2012
3:49 pm
Jerry Crasnick @jcrasnick
The #Braves and #Rangers are not in the mix for Brandon League, sources say.
Mark
July 29th, 2012
3:49 pm
Nice Teeeeeeen
nolie
July 29th, 2012
3:49 pm
damn, yet another single where we do not score from second. that has happened a lot this season
Ted
July 29th, 2012
3:50 pm
My objective would be to sit Uggla, hope he can regroup, then hope he has a quick flurry so we could trade him, even if we have to pay half his salary. Put Prado back to second, and use the 5-6M to get a left fielder. Uggla was a desperate move by Wren, who felt he needed to do something, no matter how silly. Unfortunately, Wren has the reverse midas touch.
LAG
July 29th, 2012
3:50 pm
Right call holding Pastornicky. Prado smoked that ball.
Let’s not waste it here.
JNick
July 29th, 2012
3:50 pm
@JC Brave, you are wrong. Nats released Durbin this year at the end of Spring Training. That’s how the Braves got them.
ncbravesfan90
July 29th, 2012
3:50 pm
The Braves and Rangers aren’t in the mix for League, Crasnick tweets.
George Stein
July 29th, 2012
3:50 pm
That’ll do.
Braves fan always
July 29th, 2012
3:50 pm
heyward gets the rbi here…..guarantee
BFChris27
July 29th, 2012
3:50 pm
JHey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jerry
July 29th, 2012
3:50 pm
Way to go Jason.
N Nine
July 29th, 2012
3:50 pm
J-HEY!!!!!!!!!!!
Pace
July 29th, 2012
3:50 pm
That’ll look like a smash in the boxscore tomorrow JHey! Take it Braves – now let’s add some more.
TexanBrave
July 29th, 2012
3:50 pm
Chad Durbin (aka Crash Davis)…..long time minor leaguer with a couple cups of coffee in the bigs)….looks like he has brought a ton of maturity and presence to the pen…..pound the zone, get ahead of the thumpers, keep it down in the zone…………………….Annie Savoy must have taught him in the minors about the……….. Church of Baseball……………..108 beads in a Rosary.108 stitches in a baseball……when I heard that……..heard he’s a quiet hoot in the clubhouse…
Capt.Mudd
July 29th, 2012
3:51 pm
He slowed it down nicely, thanks
abeeewright
July 29th, 2012
3:51 pm
Huge run there. Break the Phillies’ momentum. Give the Braves a little breathing room with six outs to get.
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
3:51 pm
How do you score that one?
Braves fan always
July 29th, 2012
3:51 pm
told you
Chiricahua Brave
July 29th, 2012
3:51 pm
why bunt a guy to second if you are not going wave hit on a hit to center?
Jerry
July 29th, 2012
3:51 pm
That scoring has to change. That was a hit.
Chris from the Rock
July 29th, 2012
3:52 pm
Cue clown music…
JC Brave
July 29th, 2012
3:52 pm
Nats released Durbin this year at the end of Spring Training
Never played an official regular season game for the Nats. What’s the difference?
Tampa Gator
July 29th, 2012
3:52 pm
JNick….
Durbin never pitched in the ML for the Nats. He pitched 3 years for the Phils (08, 09, 10)….and pitched for the Indians the year before coming to the Braves in a minor league deal (in the Nats minor league system at the time).,,,,so my post about the Phils stands.
Pace
July 29th, 2012
3:52 pm
Chipper – gotta run every one out – cost yourself there Hoss
N Nine
July 29th, 2012
3:52 pm
Freeman due for a hit today.
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
3:52 pm
Somebody’s gonna rag chipper….
Chris from the Rock
July 29th, 2012
3:53 pm
Jerry Crasnick of ESPN just stated on twitter that Braves are not in the mix for League.
1953dawg
July 29th, 2012
3:54 pm
JHey is becoming the stud the braves thought he would be. With JHey, Freeman, and Simmons, the future looks bright.
BFChris27
July 29th, 2012
3:54 pm
Freddie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pace
July 29th, 2012
3:54 pm
Sweeeeet – Freddie w/2 ribbies – Chipper, where are you????
LAG
July 29th, 2012
3:54 pm
N Nine – Kudos. You called that one.
Capt.Mudd
July 29th, 2012
3:54 pm
Freddy perfect—make ‘em bleed Phillie red
abeeewright
July 29th, 2012
3:55 pm
Huge hit by Freddie there. 6-2 Braves. Can’t call “ballgame” yet, but the prudent fan would start polishing the broom handles.
Bama Brave
July 29th, 2012
3:55 pm
FREDDY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
George Stein
July 29th, 2012
3:55 pm
Attaboy, Freddie.
nolie
July 29th, 2012
3:55 pm
good stuff. saved Chipper’s butt
Chris from the Rock
July 29th, 2012
3:55 pm
Sorry, just realized someone else posted the Crasnick twitter bit.
Mark
July 29th, 2012
3:55 pm
Nice 2 strike swing. Give yourself a chance when you put the ball in play. Good job Freddie.
Now, give Kimmy the day off.
Bravefaninok
July 29th, 2012
3:55 pm
Freddie!!!!!!!!!!
N Nine
July 29th, 2012
3:56 pm
Yup, Fab 5 was due. TY Freeman.
Jerry
July 29th, 2012
3:56 pm
That’s the leeway we needed. Now we can rest Kimbrel and hope he is needed tomorrow night to break the Monday curse.
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
3:56 pm
We’re 7-3,(counting this one) since the come from behind win against Nats.
JC Brave
July 29th, 2012
3:57 pm
Doesn’t Manuel know that Uggla blows against Lefties?
arizona brave
July 29th, 2012
3:57 pm
Chipper should have run that one out.
JNick
July 29th, 2012
3:57 pm
::facepalm::
You two are impossible to argue with…
December 20, 2007: Signed as a Free Agent with the Philadelphia Phillies.
November 1, 2010: Granted Free Agency.
March 1, 2011: Signed as a Free Agent with the Cleveland Indians.
October 30, 2011: Granted Free Agency.
February 1, 2012: Signed as a Free Agent with the Washington Nationals.
April 2, 2012: RELEASED by Nationals at end of spring training.
April 3, 2012: Signed as a Free Agent with the Atlanta Braves.
…anyway, apples, oranges. I read it as who was the team who let Durbin go this year….the Nats. End of arguement.
Tampa Gator
July 29th, 2012
3:57 pm
I think the Phils would trade Victorino for Durbin right now….their pen really sucks…..but I doubt the Braves would trade Durbin for Victorino right now…..
JNick
July 29th, 2012
4:00 pm
I agree, I wouldn’t trade Durbin for Victorino either…
Tampa Gator
July 29th, 2012
4:00 pm
JNick….
Back to my orignial post and point……since Durbin pitched for the Phils and not the Nats……I bet they wish they had not let him go right now…..THAT WAS THE POINT….with there sorry pen situation. You would have actually had to have pitched for someone in the ML in order to want them back….I would think.
Mark
July 29th, 2012
4:00 pm
Best thing that we could hope for there to keep a rally going
Rabid Rascal
July 29th, 2012
4:01 pm
Could Uggla be showing signs of life? Gotta like his attitude. Saw him line out to second yesterday and the double today. Look at it this way, it can only get better?
Chris from the Rock
July 29th, 2012
4:01 pm
Ross go Mammo here?
JC Brave
July 29th, 2012
4:01 pm
I get, JNick. He had a contract with the Nationals. He trained with them. But never played an official game where numbers mattered, hence he never played for them…
JC Brave
July 29th, 2012
4:02 pm
I get it*
Ray
July 29th, 2012
4:02 pm
Where are all of the ones on here saying the braves were going to lose 2 out of 3 this weekend. Where are you now. Yes you are being called out.
Pace
July 29th, 2012
4:02 pm
Hey a couple more runs here and JJ can do some mop-up work
abeeewright
July 29th, 2012
4:02 pm
Re Victorino … why do the Braves need another center fielder who will leave at the end of the year to free agency and who is having a poor season?
Tampa Gator
July 29th, 2012
4:03 pm
Believe the Braves have this one in the bag….opps….probably should have not posted that. But…see ya anyway……Go Durbin…..Go Freddie……Go Huddy…..Go JeyHey…..Go Chipper…..GO DAN UGGLA…..GO BRAVES!!!
Chris from the Rock
July 29th, 2012
4:03 pm
Looks like League going to the Giants.
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
4:03 pm
Don’t scare me, Pace
nolie
July 29th, 2012
4:04 pm
Yawnish is the worst hitter in the bigs
Tampa Gator
July 29th, 2012
4:04 pm
Ray….
Those are probably the same “fans” that wanted to dump Durbin early in the season…..and want to dump Uggla now. Go Braves…..now…I am gone.
N Nine
July 29th, 2012
4:04 pm
When you think of Chad’s past, you picture him playing for the Phillies. Yes, technically he got dumped by Nats.
JC Brave
July 29th, 2012
4:04 pm
Where are all of the ones on here saying the braves were going to lose 2 out of 3 this weekend. Where are you now. Yes you are being called out.
Right here. I was wrong then, and happy now.
Mark
July 29th, 2012
4:04 pm
I’d trade Uggla for Victorino and throw in Durbin just so they’d take Uggla!!
Pace
July 29th, 2012
4:04 pm
Hey Woody – he’s gotta ‘work on his pitches’ sometime LOL
DS1
July 29th, 2012
4:04 pm
Is there not a better spot to pinch hit McCann for Janish? `
BFChris27
July 29th, 2012
4:04 pm
3:03pm: There’s some scuttlebutt in high circles that the Giants are the team getting League, Henry Schulman of the San Francisco Chronicle reports (on Twitter). But it’s not a sure thing.
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
4:05 pm
Ryan Howard looks like he’s still hobbled.
JNick
July 29th, 2012
4:05 pm
…JC Brave, I never once said Durbin PLAYED for the Nats. I said:
Nats released Durbin this year at the end of Spring Training
Phils last had Durbin in 2010. Durbin was with the Nats this year all thru spring training before they released him right at the end.
Phils didn’t have Durbin, Nats did….
….again, facepalm….my point was, the team that actually released Durbin this year (Nats) probably wishes they kept him…jesus…
DS1
July 29th, 2012
4:05 pm
Mark
Your quickly turning into a one trick pony. OK, we know you don’t like Uggla. Give it a rest, will ya?
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
4:05 pm
Look, pace, don’t laugh. We’re liable to see that.
Mark
July 29th, 2012
4:06 pm
Nolie
You are right again regarding Yawnish. I knew nothing about him when we got him but your description of him initially was dead on. Good defender – No hit at all.
JC Brave
July 29th, 2012
4:06 pm
Is there not a better spot to pinch hit McCann for Janish?
Would you want Pastornicky at SS for the rest of the game?
JNick
July 29th, 2012
4:07 pm
…I’m remembering why I avoided this forum for a month….
TNScott
July 29th, 2012
4:07 pm
Nolie-Yawnish is the worst hitter in the bigs
Only til Wilson returns.
JNick
July 29th, 2012
4:08 pm
Holy crap, someone got Victorino out.
Mark
July 29th, 2012
4:08 pm
Ds
You are correct. I was doing better until I see some of these people defending him and his crappy hitting, whats gonna happen later…
Again, you are right. I’m off him today
Jerry
July 29th, 2012
4:08 pm
I would have rather seen Jurrjens pitch the 8th and 9th to see how he adapts to the bullpen. Oh well.
JNick
July 29th, 2012
4:08 pm
I think Uggla is giving Yawn-ish a run for that title. Brendon Ryan too…
Pace
July 29th, 2012
4:09 pm
I’ve got no problem w/Janish, the day the Braves got him we all knew he was a plus fielder and absolutely no hitting – he’s only here for defense and to keep a spot warm till Simmons gets back. He’s done very well in the field and any offense he’s provided has been a bonus.
JNick
July 29th, 2012
4:09 pm
@Jerry, I wouldn’t put Jurrjens in unless we had at least an 8 run lead.
Hmmmm
July 29th, 2012
4:09 pm
through 6, Maholm pitching nicely against the Cards
JC Brave
July 29th, 2012
4:10 pm
JNick:
I misunderstood your “had“.
JC Brave
July 29th, 2012
4:11 pm
Or “have“.
Bama Brave
July 29th, 2012
4:12 pm
Where Is PHILLY FAN? LOL
N Nine
July 29th, 2012
4:12 pm
EOF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LAG
July 29th, 2012
4:13 pm
Completely unrelated to anything concerning baseball, but we’re crushing Argentina in women’s beach volleyball right now.
Jerry
July 29th, 2012
4:13 pm
JNick,
You know that sooner or later Fredi will use him, so why not use him now and see what he can do. If he gets in trouble, bring the man in.
Rabid Rascal
July 29th, 2012
4:13 pm
EOF looking salty!
George
July 29th, 2012
4:13 pm
joe TELL battle ax TO RUN THE BALL OUT.
Chris from the Rock
July 29th, 2012
4:14 pm
It’s really sad when J.D. Martinez is mentioned in a promo for an Astros/Braves game.
JNick
July 29th, 2012
4:14 pm
@Jerry, true, but Jurrjens scares me. I think he’s the only pitcher in baseball capable of giving up 5 runs on 1 pitch…
Mark
July 29th, 2012
4:14 pm
Agree with Jerry. Two runners get on just get him out.
N Nine
July 29th, 2012
4:15 pm
Watching Papelbon pitch is like watching paint dry. UGH!
Mark
July 29th, 2012
4:16 pm
Lag
Thats really good to know!
LAG
July 29th, 2012
4:16 pm
Back to baseball: I’m not nearly as concerned about facing Papelbon in non-save situations… especially when his team is behind. He didn’t seem too great in those situations while playing for Boston either.
DS1
July 29th, 2012
4:17 pm
Mark
I’ll not defend his current offensive woes, but I will just say you have to look at the back of the baseball card when a guy is going this bad. Anybody with a career 255/345/470 line and 30 HR power has to be give quite a bit of leeway.
But as much as you or I might want him out of the lineup, it’s not our call.
While we are winning, I’d stick with him (if it were my team).
Jerry
How ya been? What are the doc’s telling ya? (email is wrs-jas@live.com) Love to hear from you.
nolie
July 29th, 2012
4:17 pm
the Braves are best when the other teams throws a lot of walks.
Top 5 scoring teams in the NL are the top 5 OBP teams in the NL
keylargo
July 29th, 2012
4:17 pm
Yawnish is the worst hitter in the bigs
I am grateful he’s not the worst defensive SS in MLB like we started the season with.
JC Brave
July 29th, 2012
4:17 pm
50 million on the mound right now.
Bravesfaninnc
July 29th, 2012
4:17 pm
@Chris from the Rock I wonder if the Astros will also trade J.D. Martinez before the deadline as it seem like they are treading away any player who is on the 40 man roster.
Mark
July 29th, 2012
4:18 pm
What big game was it a couple years back that the fans were chanting Over-Rated when Paplebon was in? All-Star?
DS1
July 29th, 2012
4:18 pm
Jerry
I’m thinking that if FW makes a deal for a starter or reliever, JJ might not see any more action for the Braves this season.
Mark
July 29th, 2012
4:19 pm
Stanzaaaaaa
Guy can motor
nolie
July 29th, 2012
4:19 pm
the one thang that Constanza CAN do is run
DS1
July 29th, 2012
4:20 pm
JC Brave
With a 4 run lead, I’d be OK with Pastornicky for 2 innings. Or heck bring Prado into SS. I just think in that situation, you do your best to pile on.
nolie
July 29th, 2012
4:20 pm
yeah KL he is great on D and that’s why he’s here.
Mark
July 29th, 2012
4:20 pm
Braves need to start getting fined for the F Bombs.
JC Brave
July 29th, 2012
4:20 pm
RESIGN BOURN!!
Pace
July 29th, 2012
4:20 pm
Bourn needs a day off – swing isn’t the same as it was a month ago – could be getting tired.
JNick
July 29th, 2012
4:20 pm
At least ‘bon is healthy. Their other option threw about 2 pitches in spring training for the Reds before needing TJ surgery. Bet the Phils are glad they pulled back that 4 year/$44mil deal they offered Madsen…
abeeewright
July 29th, 2012
4:20 pm
I’d save Jurrjens for a blow-out in the Houston series. Phillies can come back from four down against bad pitching. Let’s just win the game.
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
4:21 pm
Who’s a better hitter, nolie. Yawnish or Georgie?
JNick
July 29th, 2012
4:21 pm
…distracted by girls in bikinis playing sand volleyball…
Rabid Rascal
July 29th, 2012
4:23 pm
Love seeing closers in non-save situations. Seems like more times than not that they get ripped.
JC Brave
July 29th, 2012
4:23 pm
With a 4 run lead, I’d be OK with Pastornicky for 2 innings. Or heck bring Prado into SS. I just think in that situation, you do your best to pile on.
Good point. But his lack of defensive skills and range might turn a hole inning around and those 4 runs could turn into nothing.
JNick
July 29th, 2012
4:23 pm
Braves beat about $300mil worth of pitching this weekend with a guy on a minor league contract, a guy who isn’t arbitration eligible yet, and a guy who signed a “team friendly/hometown discount” contract…
Rabid Rascal
July 29th, 2012
4:23 pm
Guess not this time.
nolie
July 29th, 2012
4:24 pm
highway robbery
nolie
July 29th, 2012
4:24 pm
Georgie
Ward
July 29th, 2012
4:24 pm
Hello everyone! I never thought the Braves to be playing thuis well….. I wonder how Philly Phan is tasting defeat?
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
4:25 pm
Chip, that was not a “high drive.”
Rabid Rascal
July 29th, 2012
4:25 pm
Hey, Livan is pitching for Milwaukee. Guess they want Washington to catch up.
David O'Brien
July 29th, 2012
4:25 pm
Martinez to pitch 9th for Bravos
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
4:25 pm
Thanks nolie. Not that it really matters.
Bravefaninok
July 29th, 2012
4:27 pm
got the broom ready
kevkat
July 29th, 2012
4:27 pm
Rabid Rascal
July 29th, 2012
4:25 pm
Hey, Livan is pitching for Milwaukee. Guess they want Washington to catch up.
And two men are on already for the Nats.. and outs
Ward
July 29th, 2012
4:27 pm
This well, and owning the Phillies. Philly Phan this is priceless….Braves are on a mission……Philly Phan this is quit funny……..We are laughing, and I bet your momma fell of her rocker!
Pace
July 29th, 2012
4:27 pm
Rabid Rascal – Livan did ok for the Brewers last time out – shut down a gNats rally and held them scoreless for 1 2/3 inning !!! Still helping the Braves
kevkat
July 29th, 2012
4:28 pm
and no outs that is..and he’s about to walk a guy to load the bases
kevkat
July 29th, 2012
4:29 pm
bases loaded,no one out
keylargo
July 29th, 2012
4:29 pm
One day Martinez is going to have to have a Proctologist remove a baseball from part of his anatomy.
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
4:30 pm
I appreciate that play by yawnish, but few guys get rid of the ball faster than Simmons. Glad whe we get him back
Dawg '88
July 29th, 2012
4:31 pm
Phillies Fans….Oh Phillies fans….hello! Anybody home?
See ya!
How Sweep It IS!
LAG
July 29th, 2012
4:32 pm
SWEEP
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
4:32 pm
Ghost of Nate McClouth gonna be in the braves OF as long as Jason is in rt.
BFChris27
July 29th, 2012
4:32 pm
Braves WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How Sweep It Is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bama Brave
July 29th, 2012
4:32 pm
SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOVE IT
JNick
July 29th, 2012
4:32 pm
YICKETY!
abeeewright
July 29th, 2012
4:32 pm
BARVES WIN! BARVES WIN!
SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP!
Could be three back in another 1/2 hour.
JC Brave
July 29th, 2012
4:32 pm
SWEPT!
BOOM!
Go Braves!!!!
nolie
July 29th, 2012
4:32 pm
wow. Phils score only 4 runs in 3 games. Not the same ol’ bullies
Pace
July 29th, 2012
4:32 pm
The Sweep – great weekend for the Braves – now if the Brewers can hold on, be really good.
Skeezix
July 29th, 2012
4:32 pm
Sweep! Sweet Sweep!!
Mark
July 29th, 2012
4:33 pm
How seep it is?
Now that was lame.
Great series though
brian
July 29th, 2012
4:33 pm
nice win and a great way to finish off the series.
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
4:33 pm
Gotta punch bullies first, nolie. Seems we did that.
brian
July 29th, 2012
4:33 pm
Chip can say how sweep it is as much as he wants as long as it is the Braves doing the sweeping!!
beachcomber
July 29th, 2012
4:34 pm
Any sweep is great but one over the Phils is particularly sweet. We have made Amaro’s decision making process much easier.
Bravesfaninnc
July 29th, 2012
4:34 pm
Huge sweep now Wren get a deal done
Ward
July 29th, 2012
4:34 pm
Braves win!!!!!!! Philly Phan, taste defeat…………………………………….
kevkat
July 29th, 2012
4:34 pm
Nats have a run..but two out..Livan still laboring
Dawg '88
July 29th, 2012
4:35 pm
Phillies came into the series saying it was a chance to send a message. Well they did:
Message: SELL! SELL! SELL!
Ward
July 29th, 2012
4:36 pm
Where is Philly Phan? Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
abeeewright
July 29th, 2012
4:36 pm
Brewers are in trouble when Livan is your seventh inning guy. No wonder they coughed up those leads to the Phillies.
But, Livan gets out of the bases loaded no outs, only giving up a run.
Pace
July 29th, 2012
4:36 pm
Livan survives – gNats still down 5-3
TNScott
July 29th, 2012
4:37 pm
Maybe Livan can use that Bugs Bunny curve of his.
Dawg '88
July 29th, 2012
4:37 pm
That huge Thud you just heard was the Phillies Season being blownup for good!
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
4:37 pm
Now off to Miami to “fin”ish off the fish. Don’t let em off the hook. Can’t let those games ” get away.” Or we’ll be sunk.
kevkat
July 29th, 2012
4:37 pm
Have we ever beaten Hamels, Blanton and Holiday in a series?
Ward
July 29th, 2012
4:38 pm
One Day the Philly faithful will sit down, and say what happened??????????? Way to go Braves!!!!!!!!!!!!
kevkat
July 29th, 2012
4:38 pm
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
4:37 pm
Now off to Miami to “fin”ish off the fish. Don’t let em off the hook. Can’t let those games ” get away.” Or we’ll be sunk.
Ah..they come to us..I believe
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
4:39 pm
“Barry manilow cancelled at Chastain.”
Damn.
Farnsworthy
July 29th, 2012
4:39 pm
Charlie manuel doesn’t have that bully smirk on his face anymore.
What happened Charlie? Can’t toss sand in the Braves faces anymore? Your team sucks? The gazillion millions you’re paying that pitching staff ain’t paying off?
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha…………………..
Bravesfaninnc
July 29th, 2012
4:39 pm
@kevkat you right the Catfish are come to play the @Braves at the Ted
Bama Brave
July 29th, 2012
4:39 pm
See Chipper thinks we NEED Another Pitcher!!!!
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
4:40 pm
Kevkat, fine but the bad puns and bad extended metafour still intact.
Dawg '88
July 29th, 2012
4:40 pm
LOL!
Chipper: Homerun was a “Yikkity”. And…”I wouldn’t say we need a starting pitcher but it would be appreciated”
Ray
July 29th, 2012
4:41 pm
The phils, with their huge payroll, just hit rock bottom. To the phils and their fan. Score freakin board. you were just swept out with the rest of the trash.
JC Brave
July 29th, 2012
4:42 pm
Now off to Miami to “fin”ish off the fish. Don’t let em off the hook. Can’t let those games ” get away.” Or we’ll be sunk.
The series is in ATL.
Dawg '88
July 29th, 2012
4:42 pm
Phillies ended Braves season on the last weekend last year.
Braves end Phillies season with 2 months to go. Heh,heh,heh!
Sweet!
Ward
July 29th, 2012
4:43 pm
Last rub in…….Paybacks a bitch. love it!
bostonbravo
July 29th, 2012
4:43 pm
Extend Uggla @ 5yrs…he gotta hit. BFD.
What’s disturbing is, he’s batting @ .210 & he still has great confidence. If I was stealing millions from someone & not doing my job, I couldn’t sleep nights & I would have no confidence. Don’t say, I know…he’ s a better man!
It’s ok, Batista’s pitching will make up for everything. I LOVE the team…8 all stars at any given time. Despise Ugglla & thecap tipping “manager”. and that won’t change.
LAG
July 29th, 2012
4:45 pm
kevkat – Have we ever beaten Hamels, Blanton and Holiday in a series?
We’ve beaten two of those three a few times. But this is the first time that all three took the L against us.
Hmmmm
July 29th, 2012
4:45 pm
hopefully the Brewers can hang on, it’d be really nice to gain ground before another Monday game …..
BFChris27
July 29th, 2012
4:46 pm
Rickie Weeks
Bravesfaninnc
July 29th, 2012
4:47 pm
Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS
gavin floyd’s name has come up in other #chisox talks. at the moment, they are the most interesting team.
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Farnsworthy
July 29th, 2012
4:48 pm
It is so great getting pay back on the Phillies with two straight sweeps. The Braves just put them in a deeper hole. Hah!!
The Phils’ players have zero swagger this year. They look, play and act like a last place team. No tears here.
Farnsworthy
July 29th, 2012
4:51 pm
The Phils are dead last, which is their rightful place in the NL East. They and the Mutts should always be fighting it out for last place.
Oh, man. After the last several years of getting stomped by the Phils, this is great!!!
Jerry
July 29th, 2012
4:54 pm
Wayne, just sent you an email.
JNick
July 29th, 2012
4:54 pm
——-(E
Hmmmm
July 29th, 2012
5:00 pm
Jeremy Hellickson matching Greinke pitch for pitch
The A Bomb
July 29th, 2012
5:01 pm
Brewers fans in love with K-Rod. Booing him off the field.
keylargo
July 29th, 2012
5:03 pm
I was watching the Olympics and saw a sport I have never seen. Women’s Field Hockey. Pretty much like a cross between hockey and soccer but some seriously good looking women athletes were on both the German and American teams.
kevkat
July 29th, 2012
5:04 pm
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
4:40 pm
Kevkat, fine but the bad puns and bad extended metafour still inta
Lol
Hmmmm
July 29th, 2012
5:04 pm
KRod has given up 8 runs in his past 3 appearances vs NL East teams (he was the main reason Philly did so well against the Brewers)
kevkat
July 29th, 2012
5:06 pm
I can’t believe what I’m watching..the Nats are down by a run
kevkat
July 29th, 2012
5:07 pm
LAG
July 29th, 2012
4:45 pm
kevkat – Have we ever beaten Hamels, Blanton and Holiday in a series?
We’ve beaten two of those three a few times. But this is the first time that all three took the L against us.
Cool…thanks for the info…now we have!
Venice Jim
July 29th, 2012
5:08 pm
Axford…
kevkat
July 29th, 2012
5:08 pm
The Brewers are horrible…tie game on a wild pitch..geez
GTI in Brooklyn
July 29th, 2012
5:09 pm
Brewers are threatening to blow it…
SLBReb
July 29th, 2012
5:09 pm
Someone tell FG the brilliant one that when you pay someone millions of dollars, they should be contributing not just not hurting the team. Please trade FG and Struggla and let Chipper player manage so we can actually make the playoffs and maybe do something beyond. Good grief.
Hinske?
July 29th, 2012
5:10 pm
Hinske? With Constanza on the bench??? Really DOB, get real.
JNick
July 29th, 2012
5:10 pm
Keylargo, field hockey is huge up here in the northeast. My sister and cousin both played all thru H.S. Weird rules though, you can only use one side of that stick to hit the ball.
Disgusted
July 29th, 2012
5:11 pm
Attention Philly Trolls, please report to the blog.
Hmmmm
July 29th, 2012
5:11 pm
KRod has just fallen apart this year. He gave Philly hope (and then the Braves killed it) and now he’s helped the Nats get right back in this game
Bama Brave
July 29th, 2012
5:11 pm
the Brewers STINK!!!!!!!
Jerry
July 29th, 2012
5:12 pm
If the Brewers lose, I hope they trade us Corey Hart.
Juan
July 29th, 2012
5:12 pm
That Brewers Pen…Oh men…oh men.. Blew another one
Disgusted
July 29th, 2012
5:13 pm
Field hockey is cooler to watch than Golf.
Golf is not a sport in my book. Boring as watching pain dry,
If you cannot hit another human being it cannot be a sport.
Feel the same about Tennis too. Hate Tennis, Golf and Poker.
Hmmmm
July 29th, 2012
5:13 pm
“I hope they trade us Corey Hart”
where are we putting JHey then?
abeeewright
July 29th, 2012
5:13 pm
Brewers bullpen is desperately trying to give this game away. What a sorry bunch they are.
But, the offense is hitting homers and the Brewers regain their tenuous lead with 3 outs to get.
Trey
July 29th, 2012
5:13 pm
I love reading the Phillies comments.
http://philadelphia.phillies.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2012_07_29_phimlb_atlmlb_1&mode=recap&c_id=phi
kevkat
July 29th, 2012
5:14 pm
Brewers back on top with homer by Aokie…..can we fly Kimbrel there for the save in the 9th
kevkat
July 29th, 2012
5:15 pm
Back to back homers by the Brewers….whooopie…can they hold it though?
BFChris27
July 29th, 2012
5:15 pm
Gomez!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
abeeewright
July 29th, 2012
5:15 pm
Back to back homers by the brew crew. 2 run lead. They might need 10 runs before their sorry bullpen secures the last three outs, though.
Ray
July 29th, 2012
5:15 pm
Back to Back homers by the Brewers
Disgusted
July 29th, 2012
5:16 pm
Micheal Phelps deserves to be Booed, he is a BUMB.
Loser with a Capital L. Big overhype.
He has become fat and lazy.
JNick
July 29th, 2012
5:16 pm
@Disgusted, agree – that’s why I don’t like basketball either. Every time you hit someone, they call a foul…no fun in that. Put up boards and make it like hockey – and allow goaltending. I’d watch a sport where Dwight Howard could put someone through the glass…
kevkat
July 29th, 2012
5:16 pm
so excited I can’t spell..
keylargo
July 29th, 2012
5:16 pm
JNick – I was definitely impressed by the conditioning and teamwork it took. I’m watching it again and I think it’s live on the NBC Sports Network which is 603 on Directv, Germany vs. USA
Efrim
July 29th, 2012
5:17 pm
Greinke with a nice start for the Angels.
JNick
July 29th, 2012
5:17 pm
@Trey…what comments?
GTI in Brooklyn
July 29th, 2012
5:18 pm
Random Stats that interest me: Two Out RBIs
FREEMAN – 62 rbi / 30 two-out rbi (48%)
McCANN – 54 rbi / 26 two-out rbi (48%)
HEYWARD – 50 rbi / 17 two-out rbi (34%)
UGGLA – 47 rbi / 26 two-out rbi (55%)
PRADO – 43 rbi / 17 two-out rbi (40%)
CHIPPER – 43 rbi / 14 two-out rbi (33%)
kevkat
July 29th, 2012
5:18 pm
Corey Hart doubles..hmmmm wish we could get him somehow..
GTI in Brooklyn
July 29th, 2012
5:18 pm
At least the Brew Crew can still HIT.
JNick
July 29th, 2012
5:19 pm
@keylargo, yeah, it’s pretty awesome. My sister tried to walk-on to the FH team at Pitt, but she ended up playing rugby instead…lol.
Jerry
July 29th, 2012
5:19 pm
Cross that road when we get to it.
Disgusted
July 29th, 2012
5:22 pm
JNick — I love hockey, but I disagree with you about Hoop, there is real physical contact in that sport.
I would take hockey over hoops, I hope that someday we can have at least an AHL team here. Maybe ATL is not suited for the NHL, but there is enough of a hockey fan community to support the AHL.
We do not draw badly with the Gladiators, who get zilch in the local papers, I would take the Glads over high school stuff.
I am not a NASCAR guy, but I can understand why car people are nuts about that sport. It is something you just have to have a taste for.
abeeewright
July 29th, 2012
5:22 pm
I was looking ahead to both the Braves and Nats schedules. I looked at the Nats first and said, “how on earth will the Braves make up much ground with how weak the Nats schedule is.”
Then I looked at the Braves schedule for the next few weeks. Yikes! Braves don’t play a decent team until the Dodgers at the mid-point of August.
Except for the Monday curse, Braves could reel off 14 wins in a row.
Disgusted
July 29th, 2012
5:23 pm
I hope Grienke does well with the LAA and hope that Artie Moreno is able to sign him.
As long as he does not go to a NY team.
Hope he stays in the A.L. We have enough good pitchers to beat.
GTI in Brooklyn
July 29th, 2012
5:24 pm
Ah, the Monday Curse. We gotta un-curse that somehow…
nolie
July 29th, 2012
5:25 pm
since 2-out ribbies depend on how often you come up in that situation, mere totals don’t tell you much of anything. you need the percentages compared to pAs
Disgusted
July 29th, 2012
5:25 pm
Poker is the dumbest thing to watch. Never understood the poker craze.
Have to say that I am not a gambler, so card games to me are stupid.
nolie
July 29th, 2012
5:26 pm
I like to play poker, watching it is an incredible bore IMO
Disgusted
July 29th, 2012
5:26 pm
Ribbies are ribbies — get an RBI and you are helping your team.
You got a guy with the century mark on RBI’s you have a guy who is having a good yr with the bat.
nolie
July 29th, 2012
5:27 pm
bologna Disgusted, another equal hitter would produce about the same in the same situations for the most part
phil
July 29th, 2012
5:30 pm
welikebaseball2
July 29th, 2012
2:17 pm
#1, I’m glad Heyward’s silenced the blog critics calling for his job after his second, injured filled season. Didn’t know how much more I could take of the tired, lame, uncreative “Wayward” moniker. #2, I don’t care how confident Uggla is in himself. That confidence isn’t giving us offensive results. He’s a streaky hitter, in the worse way. I’m going to say that I think we should consider trading him. This is obviously his pattern. Though a hot Uggla can carry a team, a cold Uggla hurts the team…and he’s cold more often than he is hot.
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wayward is one of my favorite nicknames, buckoo….glad it’s on hold but don’t ever call it lame again!!
Efrim
July 29th, 2012
5:31 pm
One team that’s almost completely shifted its focus away from starters to relievers is the Braves, according to teams that have heard from them over the weekend. Unless something changes, the Braves seem committed to moving Kris Medlen into their rotation and dealing for a reliever who could fill the hole Medlen leaves in their bullpen. – Jayson Stark
abeeewright
July 29th, 2012
5:32 pm
Jeff Francouer … 2006 … .260/.293/.449 … OPS = .742 … SO = 132 … 103 RBI
Not what I would call a good year at the plate.
JNick
July 29th, 2012
5:32 pm
Meh, I find basketball incredibly boring. Too MUCH scoring. You can pretty much solve every NBA game in 2 minutes. Spot each team 85 points, put 2 minutes on the clock, 10 timeouts (or whatever they get) for both teams and GO.
ncbravesfan90
July 29th, 2012
5:32 pm
“One team that’s almost completely shifted its focus away from starters to relievers is the Braves, according to teams that have heard from them over the weekend. Unless something changes, the Braves seem committed to moving Kris Medlen into their rotation and dealing for a reliever who could fill the hole Medlen leaves in their bullpen. – Jayson Stark”
Ouch
Efrim
July 29th, 2012
5:33 pm
I think Heyward is up to a .799 for the month of July – 2 more games to go.
nolie
July 29th, 2012
5:33 pm
get a damn RHed hitter too Wren.
Hmmmm
July 29th, 2012
5:33 pm
Brewers pen strikes again
BFChris27
July 29th, 2012
5:34 pm
Jeez Axford.
Venice Jim
July 29th, 2012
5:34 pm
AXFORD…
Jomps
July 29th, 2012
5:34 pm
Uggla needs to be in A ball…he licks!
phil
July 29th, 2012
5:34 pm
Mark
July 29th, 2012
2:27 pm
Welike
I have struggled with that as well the last couple years. Maybe not struggled but questioned why Heyward was just murdered on here by most it seemed(when he was obviously hurt) yet Uggla can be horrindous(with no injuries) for days, weeks and months on end yet “he’ll break out of it” is seen much more than it was with JHey.
I have a theory but I wont mention it.
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your racism theory is dead wrong….Uggly catches all kinds of crap here too.
nolie
July 29th, 2012
5:35 pm
Milw pen sukks even the Phils beat them 3 straight
JNick
July 29th, 2012
5:35 pm
How do you walk DeRosa to lead off the inning?????
kevkat
July 29th, 2012
5:35 pm
Every Brewer reliever should be released…
red ryder
July 29th, 2012
5:35 pm
Phils are toast!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Too bad too sad!!!!!!!!!!!!
JNick
July 29th, 2012
5:35 pm
@Jomps….licks? lol…you get an A for originality.
Disgusted
July 29th, 2012
5:36 pm
Some guys just do better in those clutch situations Nolie — I do not get the disdain for the RBI stat that has been around forever and is not going away.
Its almost like the newly fangled statheads do not want to give credit where credit is due for clutch hitting.
So Nolie, you cannot be implying that if a guy gets a hit with a couple of runners on base that he is not heling the team.
RBI’s are never going to lose their importance. RBI;s are not going away.
RBI’s > than WAR & RC
nolie
July 29th, 2012
5:36 pm
or just shot and buried in the pen
Pace
July 29th, 2012
5:36 pm
The Brewers have TWO closers and can’t do shyt! Unreal that they’d let the gNats back into this game in back to back innings. Well, hoping for a walk-off anything right now.
Lew
July 29th, 2012
5:37 pm
Yeah, right. Uggla is immune from grief on the blog. Never heard criticism of him throughout the slump – not more than once a minute throughout the day.
kevkat
July 29th, 2012
5:38 pm
nolie
July 29th, 2012
5:36 pm
or just shot and buried in the pen
that would be a lot easier..less paperwork
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Efrim
July 29th, 2012
5:38 pm
Braves next 7 games are at home vs. the Marlins(4) and the Astros(3). Starters that we’ll be facing:
Mark Buerhle
Ricky Nolasco
Nathan Eovaldi
Armando Galarraga
Lucas Harrell
Bud Norris
6 RHP’s after tomorrows start vs. the Marlins.
Then we head out on a six game road trip vs. the Phillies and Mets before coming home for four games vs. the Padres.
Not the hardest 17-game stretch for our Braves.
David O'Brien
July 29th, 2012
5:39 pm
Uggla on not letting hitting slump affect his defense or hustle, etc.
“Come on, you guys saw me play last year. For whatever reason, these peaks and valleys the last two years have been big-time peaks and big-time valleys. I learned a long time ago that no matter how you’re doing individually, you can’t always control whether or not you get hits and stuff like that, but you can control your attitude and your competitiveness and the way you play the game. I always take pride in that.”
JNick
July 29th, 2012
5:39 pm
Funny post on Gamecast:
“@AdamMcCalvy And no, Axford cannot get two blown saves.”
GTI in Brooklyn
July 29th, 2012
5:39 pm
nolie:
Yeah, I know, that’s why I pointed out that it was just a “random stat”.
I don’t, at present, have a way to total how many base runners in scoring position each guy has batted in with 2-outs vs. how many they’ve stranded, but here’s the ratio of 2-out RBIs to PAs, since that’s what you mentioned (in terms of percentage):
FREEMAN – 8%
McCANN – 8%
SIMMONS – 7.2%
BEACHY – 6.5%
UGGLA – 6.3%
ROSS – 5.6%
CHIPPER – 5.5%
HEYWARD – 4.3%
FRANCISCO – 4.2%
Disgusted
July 29th, 2012
5:39 pm
“Jeff Francouer … 2006 … .260/.293/.449 … OPS = .742 … SO = 132 … 103 RB”I
You forgot the 29 HRs and 30 something doubles.
I don;t care about OPS, the OBP was low but I can live with a low OPB if the guys produces extra basse hits and drives in runs.
nolie
July 29th, 2012
5:40 pm
RBI have a low correlation when judging individual production because they are influenced too much by outside influences such as quality of the offense and where a player hits there and who is around him. a player of equal OPS would likely do just as well.you don’t seem to be able to get the difference between ribbies as a necessity for wins and ribbies as an evaluation tool for players.
David O'Brien
July 29th, 2012
5:41 pm
More Uggla, on team being seven or eight games over .500 during his long slump:
“My teammates have been picking me up. It’s just a matter of time before I can pick them up and carry them for the rest of the second half. I’ve been a second-half player for the last three or four years, and it looks like it’s going to continue to be that way.”
nolie
July 29th, 2012
5:41 pm
but a better OPS player would have likely driven in more runs than Frenchy did that season.
Steve from OH
July 29th, 2012
5:41 pm
Golf is not a sport in my book.
Golf, tennis, running and so forth are the purest forms of sport. Just you against your opponent, no teammates to make you better or worse. I personally love golf, but I can understand how others would think it is boring…but I’d still call it a sport.
And I like Nick’s idea about making basketball more like hockey. Everything would be better if it was like hockey.
JNick
July 29th, 2012
5:42 pm
@DOB, thanks for confronting Uggla about his slump. Does he seem calm talking about it, or is he edgy/pissed off/frustrated?
JNick
July 29th, 2012
5:43 pm
Free baseball in Milwaukee.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
July 29th, 2012
5:43 pm
Right—No one piles on the white guys at all around here. BMac, Uggla, Pastornicky, Minor, Venters, Janish, Chipper—they are totally not among guys that get [crud] from the Blog even when they’re doing well…
nolie
July 29th, 2012
5:44 pm
that tells us a bit more GTI especially when we concentrate on the guys with the bigger sample sizes, ie Beachy is not significant at all and Simmons has too few to be sure of but is promising
Hmmmm
July 29th, 2012
5:44 pm
Cards lose, that’ll help in the Wild Card area
jed
July 29th, 2012
5:44 pm
yeah…nice pitch from axelrod to morse. good heavens…that was awful. i was sitting here watching it saying ‘do NOT throw him a fastball here.’ sure enough…
nolie
July 29th, 2012
5:45 pm
race is a strawman here, the only folks who it matters to are folks with a chip on their shoulder about it in life in general
JNick
July 29th, 2012
5:46 pm
I still don’t understand how you walk DeRosa (who’s having a terrible year) with Morse on deck….
cowdogit
July 29th, 2012
5:46 pm
No need to worry about the monday curse, Constanza is the best curse breaker in the major’s.
abeeewright
July 29th, 2012
5:47 pm
“You forgot the 29 HRs and 30 something doubles.”
.449 SLG covers that. Not terrible but not what I would call “good.”
nolie
July 29th, 2012
5:47 pm
are you Constanza’s lover, or what???
jed
July 29th, 2012
5:48 pm
gotta stop watching political coverage….i meant axford of course. hell, it looked like axelrod threw that pitch…
Ed
July 29th, 2012
5:49 pm
any new rumor on braves adding a pitching arm? less than two days away now
Disgusted
July 29th, 2012
5:49 pm
Nolie — Maybe yes maybe no on Frenchy’s 06 season.
I did make a mistake on his doubles he had 24 doubles and 6 triples.
I would want my middle of lineup guys to have the OPB of at least .310.
If RBI;s are needed to wain games and they are, I cannot see how they should not be used for player evaluation. They are the same to me.
There have been high OPS guys who have been low run producers, example of that is J.D. Drew. He had two real good run producting yrs in his career, 2004 with the Braves and 06 with the Dodgers.
He was a low run producer in his Boston yrs, never had as many s 25 HR or 70 RBI.
Even Frenchy in his worst season produced 71 RBI’s. You got to have RBI’s to win games.
Tumbledown
July 29th, 2012
5:49 pm
Waiting patiently for a big-time peak by Uggla this season. It seems like one long and deep valley this season for the most part.
Hmmmm
July 29th, 2012
5:50 pm
“Constanza is the best curse breaker in the major’s.”
unfortunately, Constanza was on the bench and had an at-bat in last Monday’s game against the Marlins when they again lost.
nolie
July 29th, 2012
5:50 pm
looking for relievers now Ed
Danga
July 29th, 2012
5:52 pm
Be careful what you wish upon yourself Disgusted…Shaun can smell this conversation from a mile away.
Disgusted
July 29th, 2012
5:54 pm
.449 SLG covers that. Not terrible but not what I would call “good.”
To each one’s choice but I don;t pay that much attention to slugging percentage.
He was not great that yr, but there have been alot more 100 RBI guys who had better yrs than Frenchy did that year.
Generally a 100 plus RBI guys is having a good year. There may be exceptions to the rule like a couple of those Dave Kingman years (he hit .204 one yr and drve in 99) but that is more exception than the rule.
Tumbledown
July 29th, 2012
5:54 pm
Ok, it seems like if is clear that to break the Monday curse, the Braves must play Constanza. It is nice to know that the solution is so simple.
nolie
July 29th, 2012
5:55 pm
good point Danga, I think I’ll leave the subject b4 too much blood gets in the water…..
JC Brave
July 29th, 2012
5:56 pm
Wow, how bad is the Brewers’ bullpen?
Jeez…
JC Brave
July 29th, 2012
6:01 pm
Ok, now the ump is just being a douchebag.
JC Brave
July 29th, 2012
6:03 pm
Nats win…
The Brewers’ pitching is awful.. perfect fit for Jurrjens.
nolie
July 29th, 2012
6:04 pm
you don’t pay much attention to Slg% or OBP but those are two two”purest” indicators of a hitter’s prowess, the ability to get on base and extend innings and the power to drive in many runs.
as for team, year after year, the teams with the highest OBP are the teams that score the most runs, exactly the same again this year in the NL; the 5 teams with the highest OBP are also the 5 teams that have scored the most rums.
JC Brave
July 29th, 2012
6:08 pm
Nice piece of work by the Brewers!
God bless them!
Hmmmm
July 29th, 2012
6:10 pm
TBS guys laughing at the Brewers …. and rightfully so
Danga
July 29th, 2012
6:10 pm
The RBI is a contextual stat. It tells a story, but it does very little to tell you about the value of the hitter. JD is a great example of that as well. His OPS 08 and 09 was .927 and .914. I don’t think anyone would argue those aren’t very good offensive seasons. Similar HR and BA numbers as 2006 with the Dodgers, but the RBI numbers in Boston just weren’t there. In Boston he mainly batted 2nd and 6th whereas in LA he mostly batted 3rd and 4th.
Another thing with JD is his health. That monster season he had in Atlanta he had more than 100 more PA that at any other point in his career. That definitely helps those counting stats as well.
Frenchy as we all know does not walk so he ends up putting a lot of baseballs in play. This of course will result him knocking in a few runners whether or not he gets a hit or not. Grounder to 2nd, fly to left, and HR all result in an RBI. If you were to insert JD in to every one of Frenchy’s ABs over the years I don’t know if he would have as many RBI. I would guess probably so. One thing is for certain though, a team with Drew (when he was playing of course) will score more runs because not only does he hit, but also because he gets on base which creates opportunities for other players down the lineup.
That will be my longest post for the year. I’m sure you’ve all moved onto a different conversation by the time I post this.
David O'Brien
July 29th, 2012
6:11 pm
Chipper on getting some help before trade deadline Tuesday:
“You always like to see something. You can always use more pitching. I think our everyday lineup is pretty well set. Maybe a piece on the bench or a piece in the bullpen, who knows? Lot of stuff going on with the starting pitchers, trying to get ourselves a starter. I’m sure that if something can be done, Frank’s in on it. We can’t worry about that, though. If they help us, great. If they don’t, we’ll be fine.”
Hmmmm
July 29th, 2012
6:12 pm
“Wow, how bad is the Brewers’ bullpen?”
their relievers are in good company, naturally they’re at the bottom and they’re only slightly better than the Astros and Mets
Screwball
July 29th, 2012
6:13 pm
What a gift homestand — three awful baseball teams. Good sweep to start it rolling. “Plenty of good seats available” for the Stros.
Danga
July 29th, 2012
6:15 pm
If we can get anything out of Tommy, I think this team will be fine. Really hoping what we are seeing from Minor isn’t some sort of mirage. Another starters would be nice though…
Danga
July 29th, 2012
6:16 pm
Yeah…This Brewer BP is awful.
Bravesfaninnc
July 29th, 2012
6:20 pm
This Brewer BP is awful It’s to bad they did not help us. Oh well if Warn can get us an impact starter! not named Ryan Demp I think we will be able to over take the Nats in first place in the east.
David O'Brien
July 29th, 2012
6:23 pm
Postgame QUOTAGE
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/07/29/braves-quotes-after-sundays-win-against-phillies/
Hmmmm
July 29th, 2012
6:26 pm
That Loe guy is apparently one of the few who has an ERA below 4 on that staff ….. so naturally he didn’t pitch in the 8th inning. Instead they went with KRodriguez, Axford, and Veras who now all have ERAs over 5
brian
July 29th, 2012
6:29 pm
how did the Brewers blow that game??? They need to just blow up that team and start over
Hmmmm
July 29th, 2012
6:30 pm
Greinke gets no run support and loses his Angels debut
Ray
July 29th, 2012
6:33 pm
I know Uggla has been ripped on here daily. That is stating the obvious. But he summed it up pretty well in regards to his attitude. And yes its cliche’ but true, hustle never slumps. So many guys when they are going thru a slump start dogging it. Uggla hustles and busts his tail every day. He is not going to dog it.
JC Brave
July 29th, 2012
6:36 pm
Piece of crap Brewers.
Ray
July 29th, 2012
6:38 pm
IF the rumor is true that the Ray’s are seeking a bigger package than what it took to get Greinke in return for Shields, thanks but no thanks.
raleighbravefan
July 29th, 2012
6:38 pm
Philly Pan waas calling for a sweep on Friday afternoon. He was right.
By the way, where is he tonight?
raleighbravefan
July 29th, 2012
6:38 pm
Philly han, not Pan.
raleighbravefan
July 29th, 2012
6:39 pm
Phillie Phan, not han. Jeeez.
richbrave
July 29th, 2012
6:39 pm
David O’Brien
July 29th, 2012
6:11 pm
Chipper on getting some help before trade deadline Tuesday:
Heh! Maybe a 2-sacker who can hit for average instead of 30 HR’s.
richbrave
July 29th, 2012
6:40 pm
Well, I went to Mecca twice this week, Tuesday and again this afternoon.
raleighbravefan
July 29th, 2012
6:41 pm
Get a RH bat for the bench, bring up Delgado or Buddy for the BP. Don’t give up anyone. Go all out this Winter.
Disgusted
July 29th, 2012
6:42 pm
I have to give credit for Uggla for his double and getting a couple of RIBBIES today.
Hope he can get hot again and do this August what he did last August.
As frustrating as he is, we need the good Dan Uggla.
richbrave
July 29th, 2012
6:44 pm
Great to see a sweep on this homestand. Now let’s take care of the fish in another……sweep that is. Maybe we can run the table this time before we take to the road again.
Ray
July 29th, 2012
6:47 pm
@Disgusted you are correct. If Uggla can turn in a hot August, Sept and Oct then all will be forgiven. It’s safe to say he is hundred times more frustrated than everyone of us on here combined. This game will jack with your head as bad as golf when things are going bad. But yeah we have witnessed when he gets hot, he can carry the entire team on his shoulders. Hopefully it will pop up going down the stretch and into the playoffs.
Phillie Phan
July 29th, 2012
6:48 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8E_zMLCRNg
Disgusted
July 29th, 2012
6:48 pm
If we can get anything out of Tommy, I think this team will be fine. Really hoping what we are seeing from Minor isn’t some sort of mirage. Another starters would be nice though…
@Danga — What we are seeing out of Minor appears to be maturity and a kid who learned from a very adverse stretch. Instead of getting more overwhelmed, he got better & he has to be given credit for that.
We need more of a sample size to know how good he will really be. But even before this yr, he did have some good games, not bad stats to date for a young lefty.
I am not expecting an ACE, not expecting David Price but a guy who can consistently win 12 to 15 and pitch 200 IP, and give consistent quality starts. That would be a very solid MLB career.
George
July 29th, 2012
6:50 pm
WOW 5 in a row. Happy days are here again! I notice when the team is playing well FREDI has fewer oppertunitys to make stupid moves that cost us games. We still have time to catch WAS if other teams would help us some. WOW that CHIPPER just keeps on doing it.
richbrave
July 29th, 2012
6:51 pm
Interesting that the ‘Big Three’ ends up being BEACHY, MINOR, and DELGADO rather than TEHERAN, DELGADO and VIZCAINO.
SHEETS is a god-send, and the WRENster definitely stole one this year. Great get for our GM whose halo is golden at the moment.
ACE
July 29th, 2012
6:52 pm
Chipper with some good quotes about Fredi. How does that happen? baseball people should know who is pitching. On his scoreboard watching, he can watch all he wants.
Disgusted
July 29th, 2012
6:53 pm
As for Tommy, if its Tommy Hanson well, we have gotten something from him this yr.
Remember that in 2010, though he was not winning games he was pitching well, he had a better yr than that 10-11 record. W-L is not meangless, but it does not always tell the whole story, so Tommy can pitch in late season when he is healthy.
Again, not an ACE after injury but still has enough stuff to be solid. Mid rotation guys do get you to the post season.
I just want to get to the NLDS. If we get there that is a GREAT season given all circumstances.
ccrider
July 29th, 2012
6:53 pm
I still say if the Braves want to help their rotation and /or Bullpen , bench. Trade for the Cubs Paul Maholm and Reed Johnson.
Maholm has in his last 10 appearances:8 quality starts, and one relief appearance with no runs allowed. In his last 43 innings he has allowed on 5 runs. He can pitch well out of the pen if needed.
Reed Johnson gives us a RH hitter with a .333 lifetime avg., .379 OBP, .543 SLG. and .923 OPS against LHers.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 29th, 2012
6:53 pm
The Phils are gonna make the playoffs, cuz, ya know, historic comebacks happen annually….
Disgusted
July 29th, 2012
6:53 pm
For all the stuff about not making a trade, bottom line is we are still winning,
Keep up the good work guys.
richbrave
July 29th, 2012
6:54 pm
Phillies PHAN links to crickets. How appropriate from PHILADELPHIA’s end. Heh!
ACE
July 29th, 2012
6:54 pm
Take care of the Fish. Nobody wants to see any lovistas, DID YOU SEE THAT.
richbrave
July 29th, 2012
6:56 pm
Let’s make a deal…….Tuesday one minute before midnight if that’s the dead-line, that is.
Disgusted
July 29th, 2012
6:56 pm
Great post TOBF LOL.
BTW, those Philly trolls have disappeared, hope they are safe and okay.
Tough day for U Philly fans but do not fall off the Whitman Bridge.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 29th, 2012
6:57 pm
The Twins are listening to offers for Denard Span, but won’t move him unless they get a Major League starter in return, Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports
If the Rays trade James Shields, they’d be looking to exceed the package of prospects the Brewers obtained for Zack Greinke, according to Jon Heyman
No thanks for Shields, and hell no on Span.
Lew
July 29th, 2012
6:58 pm
George – Let me get this straight – When the players do their jobs and win, Fredi just didn’t have a chance to screw things up, but if the players don’t do their job and lose, it’s all Fredi’s fault?
richbrave
July 29th, 2012
6:58 pm
I have been to Mecca….twice, and seen the light.
Jerry
July 29th, 2012
6:59 pm
Everybody knows how much I pile on Uggla for his virtual all-season slump. But the last time he had a great game was against the Nationals in that great comeback. He didn’t get another hit that series, but I didn’t say anything. I figured his contributions in that comeback gave him a free pass. And since that series, I really haven’t said a lot because I’ve said it all before and I don’t wanna beat a dead horse with the whole issue. If he could just average 1 lousy hit every 4 at bats, I would be satisfied. I think the biggest thing is that I would just like to think when he steps up to the plate that he has a good chance to do something good. He hasn’t given us that feeling. Here’s hoping that he does come outta it soon and if not, I hope Fredi does the right thing with him in the playoffs.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 29th, 2012
7:00 pm
Let’s make a deal…….Tuesday one minute before midnight if that’s the dead-line, that is.
I hope we make some kind of deal. An OF wouldn’t be too bad (Cody Ross hint hint), but I’d also take a RHRP and a backup 1B/OF (like Hinske) if we can’t land a starter. Maybe Mejia gets a chance???
Disgusted
July 29th, 2012
7:00 pm
It would be something if Uggla just totally bombs till a couple weeks left in the reg season and just takes off and carries this team to the division and beyond that and carries them through the post season.
Potential WS MVP?????? Hey, strange things do happen.
I’ll take it. Not likely but could be.
richbrave
July 29th, 2012
7:00 pm
LEW:
yeah, that about sums up George’s take.
Disgusted
July 29th, 2012
7:01 pm
Fredi is a good manager ad I hated it that last September is on his resume.
That was mostly beyond his control in my book.
Lew
July 29th, 2012
7:02 pm
Only Braves – How about calling up Mejia and Carlyle? What could it hurt to give them a shot?
Lew
July 29th, 2012
7:02 pm
richbrave – How’s the next generation doing?
Lakewood
July 29th, 2012
7:03 pm
The Brewers bullpen may be the worst in baseball. This is going to be similar to 1999 with the Braves & Mets I have a feeling. The Nationals will beat every other team they play because their schedule is an absolute joke & the Braves will just have to beat them head to head to gain any ground.
George
July 29th, 2012
7:03 pm
On DAN UGGLA it is hard it relise what a bad hitter he is, but FRANK WREN had no way of knowing it when he signed him to that contract. But still DAN’s SA and OPS are higher than OMAR’s when he was with MIA. FREDI is right DAN still gives 100% effort.
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
7:04 pm
Love the water polo. Great game.
Lew
July 29th, 2012
7:04 pm
Disgusted – If Joe Garagiola and Mark Lemke can step it up in the WS, Uggla should be able to as well.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 29th, 2012
7:04 pm
Kevin Correia has requested a trade from the Pirates… maybe we pick him up…
4.24 ERA, 1.274 WHIP, 108IP, 9.0 H/9, 1.3 HR/9, 2.4 BB/9, 4.2 K/9, 1.67 SO/BB
Bravesfaninnc
July 29th, 2012
7:04 pm
Kevin Correia Requests Trade.
What do you think guys about him I know he not a number one starter but I think he can be a really good number 4th or 5th starter.
richbrave
July 29th, 2012
7:06 pm
Hey, Disgusted, I’d be happy if he contains his outbursts to the six remaining tilts we have with the NATS. That four game cushion they have over us is pretty much the difference in the standings. I say we win five of the last six with them and even the score.
BTW, MINOR is picking up his game significantly.
Now if HANSON would follow suit, we’d be in fat city with BEN SHEETS in the rotation.
Looks like more surgery for HUDSON in the off season for bone spurs, but the guy can still get it done. He’s a warrior to go out every time with that type of excruciating pain. TIP O’ THA” CAP to HUDDY!
Jerry
July 29th, 2012
7:06 pm
Let’s make a deal…….Tuesday one minute before midnight if that’s the dead-line, that is. richbraves
Tuesday, 4pm eastern time is the deadline.
Ray
July 29th, 2012
7:07 pm
Lew, that’s exactly how it works. Because there are multiple big league quality managers on here. All smarter than Fredi.
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
7:08 pm
Got doubts that Huddy will finish the year, but I’ll keep lighting candles.
Ed
July 29th, 2012
7:09 pm
all i know is cant stay pact have to get something and improve
Lew
July 29th, 2012
7:09 pm
Correia is a ten year vet and 31 years old, still putting up numbers that y’all rant about Delgado putting up at age 22. Low K rate, low K to BB rate, mediocre WHIP and a plus 4 ERA, both for the year and his career.
Honestly? Why bother.
George
July 29th, 2012
7:10 pm
What FRANK should do is reschedlue tomorrows game to make a day, night double header on tuesday, saveing us a sure loss tomorrow, shame to have to end a winning streak just because it is Monday.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 29th, 2012
7:12 pm
Only Braves – How about calling up Mejia and Carlyle? What could it hurt to give them a shot?
Couldn’t hurt too much, I’d think…. still like to get a shutdown RP though, someone I could hand the ball to in the 8th.
Jerry
July 29th, 2012
7:12 pm
Looks like more surgery for HUDSON in the off season for bone spurs, but the guy can still get it done. He’s a warrior to go out every time with that type of excruciating pain. TIP O’ THA” CAP to HUDDY! richbrave
Did you hear that he was having surgery for that? I certainly hope not. Several times in the last decade, I’ve had bone spurs, either in my knees or feet. The last time, I had severe achilles tendonitis in both heels brought on by spurring. My wife told me originally that she heard that you can take advil for a couple of weeks and it would dissolve the spurs. Since then, that’s what I’ve done and it works like a charm. Advil is great.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 29th, 2012
7:12 pm
especially with Meds starting (as of right now)…. don’t think/know if Carlyle is a shutdown RP.
richbrave
July 29th, 2012
7:14 pm
LEW:
The older one has had some scuttle-butt about being picked in the top three rounds, but just talk in a gale of wind.
The fifteen year old is holding his own, improving slightly.
The one-year old has a bat in hand, and also chunks everything remotely shaped like a baseball or football. So far he’s busted a ceramic wren-house, my wife’s prized maracas from Cuba, and two paper weights that fortunately caused no damage to anything else.
At three, we’ll set up the tee-ball stand and get the ‘hit-a-way’ going. He loves ball of any type at this point. Sees a game on the tube and says, ‘ball’ and gestures with his middle finger to the screen. Heh! that’s his version of pointing.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 29th, 2012
7:15 pm
Honestly? Why bother.( on Correia)
Truly, I wouldn’t. Meds can do that… I’m just wondering if FW feels pressure to add a starter, this guy might be cheap to get. He could start, Meds to the pen, and JJ goes to bye-bye land.
Lew
July 29th, 2012
7:16 pm
I probably wouldn’t want Buddy pitching the eighth or nionth, but no reason he couldn’t pitch the fifth or sixth on a regular basis – can’t leave it all to Martinez now that Meds is going to the rotation and it looks like Durbin could pitch the seventh and EOF the eighth and Venters in less leveraged situation until he returns to Venterhood.
Lew
July 29th, 2012
7:17 pm
Only Braves – Not ponly could Medlen do it (Correia like numebrs) but so could Delgado with many more K’s.
Couch Tater
July 29th, 2012
7:17 pm
Phillies synchronized diving. 16.5.
Ray
July 29th, 2012
7:18 pm
Where is it reported that Hudson is going to have surgery?
richbrave
July 29th, 2012
7:18 pm
George:
Thanx guy. I was so trying to forget about Monday.
George
July 29th, 2012
7:18 pm
I hate the DH RULE, but like the guys were saying on tv Sat, if the NL ADOPED it maybe we could have CHIPPER another season.
Lew
July 29th, 2012
7:19 pm
richbrave – He gives new meaning to the term “Childproofing” a house.
Ed
July 29th, 2012
7:20 pm
6:15pm: Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports reports that the Rangers, Braves, Red Sox and Blue Jays are all inquiring on Betancourt (Twitter link).
Ed
July 29th, 2012
7:20 pm
6:15pm: Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports reports that the Rangers, Braves, Red Sox and Blue Jays are all inquiring on Betancourt (Twitter link).
Bravesfaninnc
July 29th, 2012
7:23 pm
@Ed why would we go after Yuniesky Betancourt ??
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
7:23 pm
I as really surprised Fredi yanked JOnny tht quick, especially after the last two performances. He’s not returned completely to last years form, but he’s been much better. Must’ve seen something right away they didn’t like, rather than a lefty righty move. The guy hit the ball hard.
keylargo
July 29th, 2012
7:23 pm
I wouldn’t think there’s anyway Betancourt moves until they decide what to do with McCann.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 29th, 2012
7:26 pm
Rafael Betancourt, of the Rockies >.<
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 29th, 2012
7:28 pm
If they’re looking at him, my guess is that the Bravos are committed to Meds in the rotation.
ncbravesfan90
July 29th, 2012
7:28 pm
Brandon League gave up 3 ER in 0.1 IP today against the Kansas City Royals…his trade value hurt?
Ed
July 29th, 2012
7:30 pm
yeah rafael bentancourt bullpen arm
richbrave
July 29th, 2012
7:30 pm
And speaking of MEJIA and CARLYSLE, let’s go…………..
DOWN ON THE FARM
GWINNETT
1B ERNIE MEJIA [.307 BA] 1-3, 1 R, 1 HR [22], 1 RBI [75].
Seems to be on pace for 30 HR, 40 2B, and 100 RBI with a .300+ BA.
22 HR, 29 2B, 75 .307 BA currently thru 103 games; 41 to play.
BUDDY CARLYSLE
5-3 record, 24 G, 1 GS, 58.0 IP, 53 H, 4 HR, 12 BB, 54 SO,.248 AvAg, 2.64 ERA, 1.12 WHIP.
Venice Jim
July 29th, 2012
7:30 pm
Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN
This week’s Top 10: 1. Yankees. 2. Nationals. 3. Reds. 4. Texas. 5. Atlanta. 6. Oakland. 7. White Sox. 8. Pirates. 9. Dodgers. 10. Angels.
George
July 29th, 2012
7:31 pm
Outta here to watch some of the LONDON games. Richbrave maybe it will rain tomorrow night and save us.
raleighbravefan
July 29th, 2012
7:31 pm
Phillies fans think they are entitled. Epic meltdown…makes our blog look tame, which is hard to do.
raleighbravefan
July 29th, 2012
7:34 pm
No better time to break the streak, than tomorrow night.
Disgusted
July 29th, 2012
7:34 pm
Power rankings mean nothing until the end of September.
But the Braves being in the top 5 is deserved.
I would rank the LAA higher. Still not sold on Oakland and the White Sox. The White Sox might win that weakish division, they got a gift in the disappointing season that Detroit has had.
Disgusted
July 29th, 2012
7:34 pm
“Brandon League gave up 3 ER in 0.1 IP today against the Kansas City Royals…his trade value hurt?”
Only if there is an injury, just my $.02.
richbrave
July 29th, 2012
7:36 pm
Lew
July 29th, 2012
7:19 pm
“…..richbrave – He gives new meaning to the term “Childproofing” a house….”
Chuckle! And that’s the truth.
ncbravesfan90
July 29th, 2012
7:36 pm
Cincinnati Reds with the best record in baseball, who would have thunk it?
George
July 29th, 2012
7:40 pm
ncbravesfan90
July 29th, 2012
7:36 pm
I would and they are doing it with JOEY out and I don’t think SCOTT ROLAN is back.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 29th, 2012
7:42 pm
5. Atlanta
This team sukks. Blow it up.
Disgusted
July 29th, 2012
7:42 pm
Correia is a ten year vet and 31 years old, still putting up numbers that y’all rant about Delgado putting up at age 22. Low K rate, low K to BB rate, mediocre WHIP and a plus 4 ERA, both for the year and his career.
@Lew — I hope they pass on Correia. I’d rather keep what we have. I have not heard Correia rumors.
The way things have gone now and the way Sheets has been, I’d rather take my chances on making a run the way they are now. Why not, there is no Bob Gibson, Tom Seaver or Sandy Koufax out there & that is the kind of pitcher I want to mortage the future for.
Braves are doing pretty good with what they have.
And as for the Spann talk, that is something they might want to entertain in the off season if need be. Do not move Bourn now, worse come to worse take back the picks and make the best of em.
Disgusted
July 29th, 2012
7:45 pm
I did think that the Reds would win the Central. Best record in MLB, no but I did pick the Nats, Reds and Diamondbacks to take the N.L divisions.
Looks like I am wrong on one.
phil
July 29th, 2012
7:46 pm
Hard to be excited about 5 straight wins knowing we’ll lose again soon….sigh.
Love, Mitchell
Grandma Giffin
July 29th, 2012
7:47 pm
6:38pm: The Pirates have put a high price tag on Correia, according to Jon Heyman of CBS Sports (on Twitter).
—————————-
No thanks.
Disgusted
July 29th, 2012
7:47 pm
I’d take my chance on Meds in the rotation than a journeyman like Corriera. Or even a HR yeilding guy like Vargas.
There really is not alot out there, and what is out there is prolly overpriced anyway.
Glad Liriano is not comming here. Have you seen his record since 09.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
July 29th, 2012
7:47 pm
Oh hey, and a happy 90th birthday to Frank Marth!!…
Disgusted
July 29th, 2012
7:48 pm
Than let the Bucs keep him. That is funny, what we have is so so much better.
I have enough trust in Wren that he will not be a fool and make a trade for that BUMB.
phil
July 29th, 2012
7:50 pm
Who is Frank Marth? But happy bday anyway!
Efrim
July 29th, 2012
7:51 pm
I think Span should be a target this offseason.
Bama Brave
July 29th, 2012
7:54 pm
Where Is This Span Stuff Coming From Is It A Rumor?
phil
July 29th, 2012
7:54 pm
Another great win today! Nice job, Chipper, unloading on one. You too, Heyward!
Brave4life-1995 All over again
July 29th, 2012
7:55 pm
What about a guy like Jason Vargas?
Efrim
July 29th, 2012
7:56 pm
Phillies are 45-57 through 102 games.
To win 90 games, they would need to go 45-15.
To win 88 games, they would need to go 43-17.
To repeat, 88 wins – 43-17.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 29th, 2012
7:56 pm
I think Span should be a target this offseason.
Why??? No thanks.
Efrim
July 29th, 2012
8:00 pm
Centerfielder with a good contract. Better player than you think. Not the defender Bourn is – but a near equal offensive player and since we aren’t allocating a ridiculous amount of funds into Bourn(we had better not), we need affordable options.
David O'Brien
July 29th, 2012
8:01 pm
Braves complete 6-0 July sweep of last-place Phillies
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/07/29/braves-complete-6-0-july-sweep-of-phillies/
Venice Jim
July 29th, 2012
8:02 pm
Jayson Stark @jaysonst
Zack Greinke never lost a home game in a season and a half as a Brewer – but lost his first home game as an Angel
DC NAT
July 29th, 2012
8:03 pm
Correction. Nationals and Reds are tied for the best record in MLB!
Steve from OH
July 29th, 2012
8:04 pm
Why??? No thanks.
Span’s the kind of guy we need. Plays a nice CF (per UZR, can’t comment scouting-wise because I don’t watch him play all that often) and is under contract thru 2015 for a very reasonable number. Plus, he has a higher career OBP than Bourn. He’d give us something similar to what Bourn would at less than half the cost.
richbrave
July 29th, 2012
8:04 pm
I have been to Mecca and you have not!
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
July 29th, 2012
8:05 pm
phil—
He was an extra on the Honeymooners, and played various rolls on a lot of other TV shows, including Hogan’s Heroes…
I just wanted to see if and I’d get a reaction and what kind…
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 29th, 2012
8:05 pm
Poor Zack… he would’ve won if he was in Atlanta….
Grandma Giffin
July 29th, 2012
8:06 pm
The Twins are listening to offers for Denard Span, but won’t move him unless they get a Major League starter in return, Bob Nightengale of USA Today reports (on Twitter).
Venice Jim
July 29th, 2012
8:07 pm
Opening paragraph in Philly paper:
ATLANTA – Clubhouse attendants stuffed the red-and-blue equipment bags into shopping carts Sunday and wheeled them to a white truck waiting in the bowels of Turner Field. They were destined for a plane to Washington, where the rest of this wretched Phillies season commences Tuesday. A flickering hope for relevancy was destroyed in a matter of three days.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 29th, 2012
8:07 pm
He was an extra on the Honeymooners, and played various rolls on a lot of other TV shows, including Hogan’s Heroes…
Ah, an extra in Hogan’s Heroes, eh? Guess i got to watch them all again to try to find him…
richbrave
July 29th, 2012
8:08 pm
Well, here’s my reaction McFANN…..I’ve been to Mecca and you haven’t! So there!
Disgusted
July 29th, 2012
8:09 pm
If we cannot do it with Bourn, than Spann is a decent target. And cheaper.
That would give them flexibility to extend Mc Cann and Prado, both of whom I want to keep.
Would want to keep Bourn too, but hey, we know the budget around here. But if we keep two out of the three that is not so bad.
Before adding this and that, I would rather keep the guys like Mac and Marteen who have done something for us.
Efrim
July 29th, 2012
8:09 pm
Denard Span is a career .285/.359/.388, 104 OPS+ hitter in a little over 2,500 plate appearances.
brian
July 29th, 2012
8:11 pm
no to Shields if the cost will be higher than Greinke. We do not need a #4 or #5 starter unless he is a significant upgrade over Medlen or delgado. Not worth the trade.
Getting a solid setup guy/relief pitcher will be huge as well as a better bench piece or two
Efrim
July 29th, 2012
8:12 pm
Span’s contract: 13:$4.75M, 14:$6.5M, 15:$9M club option ($0.5M buyout) – 11.75 million in 2013 and 2014. I have trouble finding a better suited replacement for Bourn than Span. And we match up perfectly for Span. They need major league pitching, and we have that. I don’t think we’d need to give up Teheran for him either. Not saying this trade needs to happen now – but this offseason? Absolutely.
Venice Jim
July 29th, 2012
8:13 pm
As soon as I saw Frank’s picture I remembered him well – he appeared in 135 different shows…
Ray
July 29th, 2012
8:13 pm
I just don’t see any way the Braves are able to sign Bourn unless they over pay for him big time. Chances are the Nat’s are going to pay somewhere in the 13-15m a yr range. I am guessing the total package will be at least 70m. Thanks but no thanks on that.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
July 29th, 2012
8:15 pm
TOBF—
Go for it!…But I’ll help you out—he’s not in Season 4!…
V. Jim—
Yup! Lotta war stuff…
HooRah
July 29th, 2012
8:16 pm
you think Span is a near equal offensive player to Bourn? Looks to me like he is not so hot away from home
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
July 29th, 2012
8:16 pm
10-5 since the All-Star break and our starting pitching is looking better and better. Gotta love it when the best trades are the one you don’t make.
Speaking of trades…..yes, Scott Hairston would help greatly.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
July 29th, 2012
8:16 pm
richbrave—
Well, OK then…
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
July 29th, 2012
8:19 pm
Make that 11-5 since the break, but still impressive.
HooRah
July 29th, 2012
8:23 pm
yes sir, if 10-5 is impressive then 11-5 is still impressive coach
Disgusted
July 29th, 2012
8:24 pm
I just don’t see any way the Braves are able to sign Bourn unless they over pay for him big time. Chances are the Nat’s are going to pay somewhere in the 13-15m a yr range. I am guessing the total package will be at least 70m. Thanks but no thanks on that.
@Ray — And that is fine and makes some business sense but by all means pursue extensions for both Mac and Prado this off season.
There is sometihing about keeping a clubhouse together as much as you can and keeping guys around who have done something for you. Teams who have won have done that like we did in the 90;s you never heard of the Braves losing players that they really needed when TEd was in control.
It is not like that now, but you have to keep somebody around.
I give the Phillies credit for keeping their pieces around and as bad as they have been this yr, this season is an aberration and they cannot be as bad next yr.
I;d love to have Mac and Prado with a team with Freeman, Simmons and Heyward entering their prine and the kid pitchers comming into their own. I see that happening by ‘14.
There is alot to look forward to if we are smart. And Spann would be a good addition assuming it can be worked out.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 29th, 2012
8:26 pm
Do you guys consider Target Field a big advantage? Take a look at Denards 2012 home/away splits…
Home: .339/.425/.500/.925 186 ABs, 63 Hits, 20 doubles,28 BB, 18SO
Away: .234/.272/.288/.560 184 ABs, 43 Hits, 7 doubles, 10 BB, 29 SO
His numbers for his career mirror this as well.
Home: .312/.389/.435/.824
Away: .261/.332/.347/.679
Struggled in June this year, with a .221/.302/.368/.670 line.
He seems to always strugle in June, with a career .242/.311/.381/.691 line.
Career CF fielding percentage of .990, though he’s at .984 this year (4 errors)
HooRah
July 29th, 2012
8:29 pm
that was my impression too TOBF. Span must really love Minneapolis
HooRah
July 29th, 2012
8:29 pm
Minnesota
phil
July 29th, 2012
8:30 pm
Frank Marth….
Make it to 100!
Disgusted
July 29th, 2012
8:31 pm
TOBF — Maybe he just plays better at home.
We lose Bourn who do you go after for CF. There is no one in the system ready so you have to get somebody. You don;t want a back up type.
abeeewright
July 29th, 2012
8:31 pm
“Teams who have won have done that like we did in the 90;s you never heard of the Braves losing players that they really needed when TEd was in control.”
When did 10/5 rights start? I thought they were fairly new.
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
July 29th, 2012
8:32 pm
Speaking of lead off hitters. Yes we will need to replace Bourn at the top of our batting order. However, his replacement doesn’t necessarily have to be a center fielder.
Well, the best team in baseball at the moment (the Reds) also have a very nice problem. His name is Billy Hamilton and they have nowhere to put the kid. Hamilton’s a SS by trade but the consensus is he’s headed for 2B, and Brandon Phillips isn’t going anywhere.
I would just about sell my mother to get Billy Hamilton in a Braves uniform. Dude is twice the base runner Bourn is and absolute chaos for opposing defenses.
phil
July 29th, 2012
8:34 pm
Can Frank Marth travel? Good health?
He needs to be flown to a game…
On Nolie.
HooRah
July 29th, 2012
8:35 pm
those 100 stolen bases in the minors really went to your head coach?
Efrim
July 29th, 2012
8:36 pm
you think Span is a near equal offensive player to Bourn? Looks to me like he is not so hot away from home
I don’t think he’s as good as Bourn, but yes, I think he’s near equal offensively. Not as good of a defender. Just not really as good of a player – but he can take a walk, and plays good enough defense in CF. Nice contract too.
HooRah
July 29th, 2012
8:37 pm
your mother is going to be disappointed that she only rates an A level minor leaguer
HooRah
July 29th, 2012
8:38 pm
okay Efrim, why are his numbers so skewed then, any idea? Quite a spread there.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 29th, 2012
8:39 pm
Meanwhile, Bourn’s splits…
2011
Home: .300/.350/.409/.759 320 ABs, 96 Hits, 17 doubles, 24 BB, 62 SO
Away: .289/.348/.363/.711 336 ABs, 97 Hits, 17 doubles, 29 BB, 78 SO
2012
Home: .303/.354/.442/.796 208 ABs, 63 Hits, 11 doubles, 18 BB, 52 SO
Away: .292/.349/.431/.779 216 ABs, 63 Hits, 8 doubles, 18 BB, 48 SO
Career
Home: .280/.344/.377/.721
Away: .270/.333/.363/.696
And he doesn’t have one month where his trend is to stink it up for the entire month. More balanced.
Career .991 CF fielding percentage, at .992 this year. (2 errors)
So,please, do forgive me if I don’t buy into the Denard Span idea…
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
July 29th, 2012
8:40 pm
Hamilton’s playing double A ball right now and my mother would still be disappointed. But yes, he’s the Reds best position prospect and rated the fastest base runner in all of minor league baseball.
CrαZy
July 29th, 2012
8:40 pm
I would just about sell my mother to get Billy Hamilton in a Braves uniform.
Just about?? I might even throw in my wife!!
Bama Brave
July 29th, 2012
8:41 pm
Span Is not A right handed bat off the bench
kenhotlanta
July 29th, 2012
8:42 pm
Frank Marth was usually dressed in a suit and hat and played a lot of police detectives and private eyes.
I just watched the first Green Hornet serial from the 40’s and it was only him and Kato against a town full of thugs and gangsters. Everyone of the bad guys wore suits,hats and ties, and usually a 3 piece suit. It looks totally ridiculous today, but it was actually a pretty good serial and well made.
CrαZy
July 29th, 2012
8:42 pm
Hamilton 115 SB in 98 games over a .400OBP !!!
HooRah
July 29th, 2012
8:42 pm
I can understand splits from the dome days since they used it to cheat, I don’t see why it has continued to this day, and I have to admit that it worries me some. There is often a home advantage to splits, but seldom that kind of spread except in extreme hitter’s parks.
Ward
July 29th, 2012
8:42 pm
Hello everyone! Any news yet! I heard of nothing.
Frankie
July 29th, 2012
8:43 pm
Anybody want to wager on chance that Meds doesn’t start game on Tuesday?
Not buying it at all, doesn’t make sense. If for some reason he does, probably his only start.
HooRah
July 29th, 2012
8:43 pm
he has just started AA and has proven nothing there so far. poor mama
HooRah
July 29th, 2012
8:45 pm
if he starts Tuesday it will mean they got no pitcher so I would think he would continue starting from that point on Frankie.
HooRah
July 29th, 2012
8:46 pm
yes that is another point against Span, another lefty. We need another lefty like we need a hole in the head.
phil
July 29th, 2012
8:47 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 29th, 2012
8:39 pm
Meanwhile, Bourn’s splits…
2011
Home: .300/.350/.409/.759 320 ABs, 96 Hits, 17 doubles, 24 BB, 62 SO
Away: .289/.348/.363/.711 336 ABs, 97 Hits, 17 doubles, 29 BB, 78 SO
2012
Home: .303/.354/.442/.796 208 ABs, 63 Hits, 11 doubles, 18 BB, 52 SO
Away: .292/.349/.431/.779 216 ABs, 63 Hits, 8 doubles, 18 BB, 48 SO
Career
Home: .280/.344/.377/.721
Away: .270/.333/.363/.696
And he doesn’t have one month where his trend is to stink it up for the entire month. More balanced.
Career .991 CF fielding percentage, at .992 this year. (2 errors)
So,please, do forgive me if I don’t buy into the Denard Span idea…
*********
sure. Use facts and data to try to convince us.
Phooooey….
Blog Monitor
July 29th, 2012
8:47 pm
been away for awhile, what is the latest on JJ, and is Meds going to rotation?
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 29th, 2012
8:47 pm
4/37 6 Runs 0HR 2RBI 1SB .108 Batting Avg.
My fantasy hitters line today…. they really sukk.
HooRah
July 29th, 2012
8:48 pm
must be all Braves, Only
Bama Brave
July 29th, 2012
8:48 pm
Are The Braves Gonna make a splash? and who is it
Frankie
July 29th, 2012
8:50 pm
“if he starts Tuesday it will mean they got no pitcher so I would think he would continue starting from that point on Frankie.”
Yeah I can agree with that logic. Just think they will acquire a starting pitcher. If they don’t, with Minor coming around it makes no sense not to go with Delgado as the 5. Meds is way too valuable in the role he is now. Makes no sense and just a smokescreen me believes.
HooRah
July 29th, 2012
8:50 pm
rumors say they are now looking at relievers and bench players, not much of a splash there for the most part. though Hairston would be splashy enough for me
Ed
July 29th, 2012
8:51 pm
dob, will ross make another start tomorrow vs buehrle
phil
July 29th, 2012
8:51 pm
JJ is wretched.
Medlen starts tuesday…at least for now.
NORRIS CHUCK
July 29th, 2012
8:52 pm
So are the Braves gonna make a move or not??????
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 29th, 2012
8:53 pm
must be all Braves, Only
Only 1 Braves on this one…. Uggla, and he had a 1/3 today….
Ray
July 29th, 2012
8:53 pm
Digusted, I agree completely. I see the Braves signing Mac and Prado. Now IF Mac is going to ask for something crazy like 140-160m package then I say no way. I have said many times, signing him, a catcher to a long term deal is going to be less risky because of the expansion of interleague play, more opportunity to DH.
Ward
July 29th, 2012
8:53 pm
Mean while we are waiting Wren……..little humor.
Ward
July 29th, 2012
8:54 pm
Scott Hairston has put up solid numbers…..
Frankie
July 29th, 2012
8:54 pm
Hairston would be fantastic, and absolute need.
Wren being WAY too quiet. Expect big things tomorrow. 9-5 odds they get starting pitcher, Reed Johnson type with big trade with Cubs similar to Cards last season transaction or picking up starter elsewhere and a bat like Hairston.
Feeling it’s still going to be Dempster. Stay tune sportsfans.
Tim
July 29th, 2012
8:56 pm
Uggla is a epic bust…how many runners has he left stranded?
abeeewright
July 29th, 2012
8:56 pm
If it comes to it, I suspect that Teheran and Delgado will be September call-ups.
Depending on Medlen’s performance as a starter, Delgado might replace Medlen in September.
This presumes that Braves do not get another starter. It also presumes that the existing starters finish the season without injury.
phil
July 29th, 2012
8:57 pm
Dumpster? Please, no…
Bring back Linebrinkofdisaster instead!
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
July 29th, 2012
8:58 pm
I’m calling it ahead of time…..
The Monday streak is over, we will win.
phil
July 29th, 2012
8:59 pm
Uggla knocked in a run today….
Plenty for this month, per Fredi.
Ward
July 29th, 2012
9:00 pm
I’ll still be O.K. with Dempster…..I’m not to picky. Dempster still knows how to pitch, and he wants to win.
Bama Brave
July 29th, 2012
9:00 pm
Frankie I Can agree with you. Man Its To Quite on any rumors!
phil
July 29th, 2012
9:02 pm
To Quite?
Typical bama fan…
eskippy
July 29th, 2012
9:02 pm
Delgado is going to replace Hanson before September.
Frankie
July 29th, 2012
9:03 pm
Medlen I would give the opportunity to start next season but he’s not going in the rotation this season IMO.
Something you have to remember about Medlen’s so called being stretched out experience. Minor obviously was getting drilled when they sent Meds to Gwinnett. Simultaneously Delgado was really inconsistent at the time(Tampa game and forgot who else and had back to back mediocre efforts). That’s your 4 and 5 starters who you had major concerns about. On top it, the day Medlen got sent down they lost their 8th game in a row. Desperation call, maybe. Little impulsive, maybe. Can’t blame FO for sending him to Gwinnett. I truly feel that the organization does not want him starting and only out of true desperation he would be in the rotation. Maybe he starts Tuesday, but can’t see a following start.
Ward
July 29th, 2012
9:04 pm
Wren the tormenting is not cool…….Too quiet……..
Frankie
July 29th, 2012
9:04 pm
Frankie I Can agree with you. Man Its To Quite on any rumors
Eerie quiet, spooky man. Gots a feeling this blog is going to BLOW UP tomorrow. Make it happen FW!
Fastball
July 29th, 2012
9:05 pm
Listen, I haven’t read the blog, but I suggest the Braves trade Uggla to Philadelphia for Shane Victornio. Move Prado to second. Have Victorino played center after Bourne bolts. Philly can move Chase Utley to third and play Uggla at second. Trade for Clayton Richard. Fire Frank Wren and Freddie Gonzales. Name Chipper the manger. Let Cox GM the remainer of the season.
richbrave
July 29th, 2012
9:06 pm
McFANN:
Went to PARKER’s BBQ twice this week and it was everything DAVE cracks it up to be…….Mecca! Absolutely.
phil
July 29th, 2012
9:06 pm
Medlen will surely throw a perfect game tuesday night…
He’ll get that second start!
richbrave
July 29th, 2012
9:07 pm
eskippy
July 29th, 2012
9:02 pm
Delgado is going to replace Hanson before September.
CROCODILE DUNDEE?
cowdogit
July 29th, 2012
9:08 pm
The team is playing great, Every time this happens Fredi will make unnecessary changes to the roster. Stop fixing something thats not broken.
cowdogit
July 29th, 2012
9:08 pm
The team is playing great, Every time this happens Fredi will make unnecessary changes to the roster. Stop fixing something thats not broken.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 29th, 2012
9:08 pm
Nice ideas Fastball….
Ward
July 29th, 2012
9:08 pm
When DOB is quiet, you know some thing is up……Little humor.
richbrave
July 29th, 2012
9:09 pm
And maybe re: DELGADO and HANSON.
richbrave
July 29th, 2012
9:10 pm
BTW TEHERAN had a decent five+ innings this afternoon.
Bama Brave
July 29th, 2012
9:10 pm
Fastball Victornio will be a free agent to….
Frankie
July 29th, 2012
9:10 pm
Team is not playing great, they are playing good baseball. They beat up a terrible Marlin team and a Phillie team that basically has quit. Philly got a couple of lucky breaks beating a horrible Brewer team late and people mistook that for them getting possibly back into the playoff race. Braves are a good team, they put a fork into the Phils as good team should do. They also got 5 hits each of the first 2 games. Team can use some help both starting pitcher and a bat that can spell a starter.
Frankie
July 29th, 2012
9:11 pm
Good news Richbrave. Julio isn’t going anywhere probably but the starting rotation next April.
Disgusted
July 29th, 2012
9:12 pm
Dumpster either want to go to L.A or remain with the Cubs, he is not worth the aggravation.
As for Spann, he is not as good as Bourn, but with his $$$$$$ you pay him, its a worthwhile tradeoff for what you have to pay Bourn in FA.
Bourn is having maybe his career yr.
And as previously said, more $$$$$$$$$$ to keep Mac and Prado. Also note that with expanded interleague play, we could see the N.L. going to the DH, almost has to happen.
Ray
July 29th, 2012
9:12 pm
According to some on here, if we don’t hear the rumors then Wren is sitting on his hands. When Wren doesn’t pull off the trade, then its his fault and only his fault. Of course there is not a GM on the other line equally making a decision.
Disgusted
July 29th, 2012
9:13 pm
Why trade for Victorino when you might be able to have him in FA in the off season?
We already have a CF for this yr anyway.
Ray
July 29th, 2012
9:14 pm
NL may not go to the DH but it will be used a lot more for obvious reasons. Don’t be surprised if some NL teams add a DH type player next year. Maybe not a Big Papi style but pretty close.
Frankie
July 29th, 2012
9:15 pm
Not worth the aggravation, making the guy sound like Yunel. Looking WAY too much into what happened last week. Like the stock market, can’t get too emotional when it comes to trading for personel. Dempster would get a louder standing O than AGOn received.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 29th, 2012
9:17 pm
Phillies Could Be “Most Active Sellers”
By Steve Adams [July 29 at 7:58pm CST]
The Phillies entered this weekend needing to perform well in a critical series against the division rival Braves. Instead, they were swept and now appear to be in the position to sell off several pieces. ESPN’s Buster Olney tweets that the Phillies could be baseball’s “most active sellers” in the next two days, and that they’ve laid the groundwork for several trades. Olney’s colleague Jayson Stark hears from several teams that the Phillies could make 2-3 trades prior to Tuesday’s deadline, though they’ve yet to officially declare themselves sellers (Twitter link).
CSNPhilly.com’s Jim Salisbury agrees that selling is likely, and runs down several of the possibilities for the Phillies in the coming days. Salisbury writes that Shane Victorino is the “most likely” Phillie to be dealt, and lists the Giants, Pirates, Reds and Dodgers as possible destinations for Victorino. Interest in Victorino was said to be “heating up” as recently as yesterday.
The Reds have also inquired on Juan Pierre, and both the Orioles and Cardinals are potential destinations for Joe Blanton according to Salisbury. He also says that Hunter Pence could be moved if GM Ruben Amaro Jr. is blown away by an offer, and speculates that Ty Wigginton would fit on several teams looking for bench help.
Salisbury reiterates that the Phillies are likely to keep Cliff Lee for the time being, although he could be shopped this offseason in an attempt to fill multiple holes.
Bama Brave
July 29th, 2012
9:18 pm
Dempster Will end up in LA. The cubs will cave in
Ward
July 29th, 2012
9:18 pm
Yunel Escobar has potential with all do repsect. He just lazy at times, and doesn’t play 100%.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
July 29th, 2012
9:19 pm
phil Can Frank Marth travel? Good health?…He needs to be flown to a game…On Nolie
kenhotlanta—
Haha! That’s hilarious…
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 29th, 2012
9:20 pm
Good news on Teheran richbrave. Now we can trade him for Zack… er, never mind.
Hope he’ll get “fixed” and be ready for next year…
Disgusted
July 29th, 2012
9:20 pm
Yunel is just plain dumb and stupid. Not a bright guy. And lazy.
Ray
July 29th, 2012
9:24 pm
Yunel, goes into a slump..funk and is a distraction in the clubhouse and is lazy. Uggla goes into a slump, and busts his rear end and plays the game the right way and apparently is a very good clubhouse guy. I will take Uggla on his worst day over Yunel any day.
Ward
July 29th, 2012
9:26 pm
Uggla is showing signs……..He’s coming around….
keylargo
July 29th, 2012
9:27 pm
McFann
Have you ever played “Field Hockey”? Sort of a combo of soccer and hockey. I saw it for the first time today in the Olympics and thought it was a great looking sport. Of course it does have one drawback. You’d really have to do some serious conditioning.
Ward
July 29th, 2012
9:27 pm
I’m still shcoked that our Braves have won 6 in a row against the Phillies, and loving it!
Ward
July 29th, 2012
9:28 pm
meant to say shocked, and you have to say Bitchell is a classic……
Dumbfounded again......
July 29th, 2012
9:28 pm
that wednesday game is going to be interesting. it will mark the first time this year the braves will face zambrano after he intentionally hit chipper while laughing in the dugout.
Woody Woodward
July 29th, 2012
9:32 pm
Sorry if this has been posted earlier, but there was a brawl involving the Miss braves
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/29/mississippi-braves-mobile-baybears-brawl-fight_n_1717229.html?utm_hp_ref=sports
ChattTownBrian
July 29th, 2012
9:33 pm
Haha Chipper is right. Fredi is stupid, man. Freakin idiot! LOL
Dumbfounded again......
July 29th, 2012
9:38 pm
i will just say the braves major league team may get into one wednesday…
tiger297
July 29th, 2012
9:38 pm
looking at the schedule…who woulda thunk in february that the last series of the season for the braves would have a chance of playoff implications for both teams…
Dumbfounded again......
July 29th, 2012
9:45 pm
tiger297
July 29th, 2012
9:38 pm
looking at the schedule…who woulda thunk in february that the last series of the season for the braves would have a chance of playoff implications for both teams…
maybe the braves get their comeuppance after 20 years ?? i hope not !
stew
July 29th, 2012
9:46 pm
Dan is still the man.
Bobby H
July 29th, 2012
9:56 pm
looking at the schedule…who woulda thunk in february that the last series of the season for the braves would have a chance of playoff implications for both teams… — tiger297
I just checked that out, tiger. That could end up being a four game series… ya know?
tiger297
July 29th, 2012
9:56 pm
my buddy who is a pirates fan keeps telling me don’t worry about it sooner or l8r they will fall apart..
tiger297
July 29th, 2012
10:00 pm
closer we get to the d8 more difficult my decision becomes…I may have to sell extra tickets this year to help me pay for the trip (especially since it might end up being 4 games).
I’ve been looking for how homefield in playin game is determined
HooRah
July 29th, 2012
10:01 pm
I think that the Pirates will fall off too
Finklestein
July 29th, 2012
10:02 pm
Uggla, Lowe, KK, McOut. No one will ever accuse Wren of having the Midas touch.
At least Bourn worked out.
Ed
July 29th, 2012
10:02 pm
its a must win series homestand against marlins and astros!
Bobby H
July 29th, 2012
10:03 pm
I’ve been looking for how homefield in playin game is determined — tiger297
Isn’t it just the best record?
keylargo
July 29th, 2012
10:03 pm
So Tiger, what do you think of the diesel Cessna 182?
Jerry
July 29th, 2012
10:03 pm
I think some of you are worrying too soon in regards to losing Bourn and possibly replacing him. I think that if the pitching continues to get better and we can resign Sheets without breaking the bank, then that allows Wren to concentrate of other parts of the team, namely Bourn. I realize that he is gonna command a large contract, but we aren’t gonna have Chipper’s and Lowe’s contracts anymore and has to help some. The team was prepared to sign Greinke for more tham $20mil on a long term deal. That tells me they have the money. It’s just a matter of putting it where it’ll do the most good. Bourn ain’t gonna be gone until he’s gone.
HooRah
July 29th, 2012
10:03 pm
some people are just plain dumb
HooRah
July 29th, 2012
10:05 pm
Sorry Jerry, I think Bourn is gone. I can’t see them paying a leadoff hitter in a career year 14 million + a year
keylargo
July 29th, 2012
10:06 pm
If we do make the Wild Card playoff and are forced to pitch anyone other than Sheets, I don’t like our chances if we draw a strong #1 or #2.
tiger297
July 29th, 2012
10:08 pm
bobby – that makes sense…I just haven’t seen it anywhere
Billy Walsh
July 29th, 2012
10:08 pm
If you look at the Pirates farm system they are loaded with young stud arms and the guy Martel
they brought up is going to be a star. They might fall back some this year but they are going to be extremely relevant next year and beyond
tiger297
July 29th, 2012
10:09 pm
key – I can’t imagine any team in the wildcard race has time to setup their starters. If homefield is decided by best record at most you get one game to rest players. So both teams probably equally screwed
Bobby H
July 29th, 2012
10:10 pm
Sorry Jerry, I think Bourn is gone. I can’t see them paying a leadoff hitter in a career year 14 million + a year — HooRah
I’m not counting on it happening, but I figure Wren will make him a pretty decent offer. It’s not as if the Braves have someone else to step into that role.
monty
July 29th, 2012
10:11 pm
WW-’Must’ve seen something right away they didn’t like, rather than a lefty righty move. The guy hit the ball hard.”
I wouldn’t read too much into that, a good hitter hit a groundball where no one happened to be playing. The fact that it was a groundball is comforting when it comews to JV. I think the move was more predicated on the moves that the Philly coach was making and FG didn’t want to look like he was sitting there like a bump on a log.
Ward
July 29th, 2012
10:12 pm
Breaking news Braves trade for Hairston………
keylargo
July 29th, 2012
10:13 pm
My thoughts too Tiger. Sheets on two days rest is better than Hanson. Get 4 innings out of Sheets and go from there. I don’t like this setup as it’s not fair to anyone.
4 Divisions is coming as soon as we get 32 teams. Expansion? How horrible will that pair of teams be for a couple of years.
Ward
July 29th, 2012
10:14 pm
Got bored……….little humor.
HooRah
July 29th, 2012
10:15 pm
not funny Ward
tiger297
July 29th, 2012
10:16 pm
as far as the diesel cessna we will see…the biggest problem you run into with adding a 3rd fuel type is distribution. Can you imagine airports having to stock 100LL/JetA/diesel/new avgas.
The infrastructure investment involved would be so cost prohibitive. Noboby wants to hear my solution but it makes the most sense. 80% of the GA fleet could fly on autogas without ethanol. Take the other 20% and push them to turbine and switch from 100LL to autogas.
But I guess inventing an unleaded fuel that meets all the specs and coming up with plants/distribution is a better idea.
HooRah
July 29th, 2012
10:16 pm
I don’t think there is going to be expansion any time soon
Ray
July 29th, 2012
10:17 pm
Braves have not traded for Hairston.
tiger297
July 29th, 2012
10:19 pm
kl – lets see how our new starter (medlen or whoever) does down the stretch. Medlen comes in and performs like he did as a starter (minus his first 2-3 nervous games) and he might be the answer.
not sure how bad the expansion teams would be it will depend on how they allow the expansion draft to work and how much the teams want to spend.
keylargo
July 29th, 2012
10:21 pm
Going to autogas from 100LL would involve major engine work. New pistons to lower compression, thus less performance. It’s one thing to run autogas in a trainer but it won’t work in a High Perf Twin or Single for that matter.
SNEAKY PETE
July 29th, 2012
10:21 pm
where are you guys getting ideas of expansion teams?
SNEAKY PETE
July 29th, 2012
10:23 pm
Hairston would be nice.
keylargo
July 29th, 2012
10:25 pm
Tiger – the reason I think the expansion teams would be so weak is that we have so many marginal bench players, bullpen mop up men. Probably on average the 22 — 25 members of teams are AAAA players anyway.
Think of it this way. You’d have to call up 50 players from the minors and call them MLB players.
HooRah
July 29th, 2012
10:26 pm
yes he would
Bobby H
July 29th, 2012
10:28 pm
where are you guys getting ideas of expansion teams? — SNEAKY PETE
It’s what happens when the Braves are on a winning streak. No one comes on here to bad-mouth the Braves. We have to dream stuff up…
Ward
July 29th, 2012
10:29 pm
Sneaky Pete – I agree Hairston would be a nice addition. I’ll come later, watching Olympics, and switching to MLB Net Work. I’ll be up at least until 3:00am Montana time……Peace my friends, and “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
keylargo
July 29th, 2012
10:29 pm
Just eventually they will add two teams so the leagues will be equal. Then they’ll add 8 division winners and 8 wild cards to get 50% of the teams into the playoffs, etc. etc, etc.
Capt.Mudd
July 29th, 2012
10:29 pm
@Jerry….Hi, doing ok guy? Above you said it looks like they got the $ re:long term possible contract offer in excess of 20 million………….Let me ask you this: Could it be they are borrowing that kind of loot from a financial organization for that potential fiduciary matter?
Bobby H
July 29th, 2012
10:32 pm
I’ll come later, watching Olympics, and switching to MLB Net Work. I’ll be up at least until 3:00am Montana time……
We appreciate the warning, Ward
tiger297
July 29th, 2012
10:33 pm
kl – autogas will work for 80% of the existing fleet with no modification…no doubt it involves a ton of work for the 20% that you mentioned.
I don’t believe you can create a fuel, build the refineries and create distribution system for less money than replacing 46K aircraft. Not to mention the fact that the new fuel is expected to cost 30% more than current (as opposed to 50% less for autogas no increase for jetA).
Capt.Mudd
July 29th, 2012
10:34 pm
We can all buy used synths and learn a few keys–enough to be para-dreamweavers@ Bobby H.
tiger297
July 29th, 2012
10:41 pm
kl – like I said it depends on how they set it up…you force the existing teams to give up existing players. Isn’t that how they did it before? Tier existing ML players and every team is required to leave 1-2 depending on the tiers unprotected.
It will reduce overall quality of the players in the league but doesn’t handicap the expansion teams.
tiger297
July 29th, 2012
10:43 pm
note I didn’t say I expect to see expansion just discussing if the new teams would have to suck…
keylargo
July 29th, 2012
10:46 pm
Tiger – Surprisingly, most HP Turbo engines don’t really need the 100LL because turbo pistons are not real high compression. It would overload the turbo with the recycled exhaust if the compression was up at the level of say a Beechcraft Bonanza or Barron. So HP Turbo engines will require less retrofitting than their non turbo siblings.
Bobby H
July 29th, 2012
10:49 pm
I would think that if there were another decent city to support a ML baseball team, the Marlins, Rays or Pirates would have already moved there.
Venice Jim
July 29th, 2012
10:50 pm
We talk baseball, other sports, music, movies, BBQ and whatever (except politics, turbo engines and religion)
tiger297
July 29th, 2012
10:50 pm
kl – not arguing that its actually why the 20% is so low. The problem is the aircraft that require it are the ones owned by the people who donate most to the PAC’s so the smart answer is irrelevant.
keylargo
July 29th, 2012
10:55 pm
Tiger – the way the expansion drafts have worked in the past is that you can protect a certain number of men on your 40 man roster, just say 30 for a number. The new team picks maybe a pair of players from the 300 exposed players (30 teams). Then they allowed to protect maybe 3 more players and the expansion teams can choose 1 from the remaining players and so on. There are limits to how many players a team can lose.
Those are very vague and I’m sure they will be amendments to it but you can lose an important player. You can’t just protect the 25 on the MLB team or you lose Teheran, Betancourt, etc. It’s truly crunch time in the front office with salaries, age, past all carrying weight.
Capt.Mudd
July 29th, 2012
10:56 pm
@VJ…I Googled some financial generalities recently….and, tried to find out the net worth of NY (AL)….no luck. Will you enter a guess?
Bobby H
July 29th, 2012
10:57 pm
Turn their gassy butts in, VJ
tiger297
July 29th, 2012
10:57 pm
when its sleepy time down south…
Venice Jim
July 29th, 2012
11:08 pm
Some people I know not familiar with Synchronicity – I or II…something to listen to during …synchronized diving…
Bobby H
July 29th, 2012
11:15 pm
Some people I know not familiar with Synchronicity – I or II — Venice Jim
Does that mean that there are some people you know that ARE familiar with it?
cabravesfan
July 29th, 2012
11:16 pm
In fairness, it came that song came out when I was 4…
cabravesfan
July 29th, 2012
11:17 pm
Or something like that. I’m watching Synchronized Diving…
Bobby H
July 29th, 2012
11:21 pm
I didn’t even know it was a song until you mentioned it, cab.
ChattTownBrian
July 29th, 2012
11:22 pm
The way Minor has been pitching has to lessen the chance of getting a starter. We don’t know though. Wren could be working on something that would shock even Chipper. Next two days should be exciting for the game.
Capt.Mudd
July 29th, 2012
11:23 pm
Yes, I or II of them
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 29th, 2012
11:35 pm
I really appreciate the effort of NBC… I can already find out the results before I see it on TV…
Capt.Mudd
July 29th, 2012
11:36 pm
Billions that is–wow
Venice Jim
July 29th, 2012
11:50 pm
Peter Moylan @PeterMoylan
Night guys. Enjoy the coverage of the #Olympics. Oh and not to be out done the @braves sweep. Life is good. Yakkity
Is that Australian for yickety?
UNCBrave
July 29th, 2012
11:53 pm
Don’t get your hopes up on a trade except maybe something small like Xavier Nady who the Hard released …..Frank “STAND PAT “Wren will make sure of that
Venice Jim
July 29th, 2012
11:56 pm
Come on, Frank – give players away to make bloggers happy!
Venice Jim
July 29th, 2012
11:58 pm
I kid because…well, that’s what I do…
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 30th, 2012
12:02 am
Trade Freeman and Prado for King Felix!!!!
Venice Jim
July 30th, 2012
12:11 am
OBF – get serious- include JJ – they need someone to replace him in the rotation…
Bobby H
July 30th, 2012
12:12 am
Come on, Frank – give players away to make bloggers happy! — Venice Jim
Right, VJ. Wren should make any deal he can… just so he made a deal. To hell with the cost to the Braves future. Just keep the trolls happy!
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 30th, 2012
12:19 am
Prado can pitch….
Venice Jim
July 30th, 2012
12:20 am
Ambidextrously…
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 30th, 2012
12:22 am
throw in Flande then
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 30th, 2012
12:23 am
I’m off to bed guys. Take care VJ.
ACE
July 30th, 2012
12:27 am
Did anybody read the sports vent today? They should change the name of it to take a shot at Uggla. To quote one, what is the difference between Dan Uggla and a deer caught in the headlights? The deer strikes out less.
Capt.Mudd
July 30th, 2012
12:28 am
Borrow the darned loot and buy Tex back….send Freeman, Uggla, Hayward and one TBA prospect to the Yanks for Tex, Cano, and Riveria…..Wren cano he made us all proud!
Ward
July 30th, 2012
12:29 am
Hello everyone! My Prediction is Dempster will be a Brave, because Dodgers might not have a package. Wouldn’t be surprised if Dempster is a Brave after all.Think Dodgers will go after Shields…….
Venice Jim
July 30th, 2012
12:30 am
I am moving on…
Capt.Mudd
July 30th, 2012
12:31 am
Dementia bad after 12:30 am EST:::::::::::::::Heyward::::::::::::::::::/
Capt.Mudd
July 30th, 2012
12:33 am
The Ventura Highway?
nolie
July 30th, 2012
12:42 am
good baseball weekend for the bravos
Ward
July 30th, 2012
12:48 am
nolie – Whats your prediction on the trades?
ChattTownBrian
July 30th, 2012
12:49 am
Trade for Corriea!
Ward
July 30th, 2012
12:50 am
Chatt – What are your predictions?
nolie
July 30th, 2012
12:51 am
no idea ward. what I would like is a good bench bat like Hairston or Johnson and a good reliever
It would not surprise me too much to see them get less than that. kinda on par with last season perhaps. Hope not
nolie
July 30th, 2012
12:52 am
Correia? God I hope not
Bobby H
July 30th, 2012
12:52 am
Do I detect a bit of negativity from nolie?
Ward
July 30th, 2012
12:55 am
nolie – After seeing Hairstons’ numbers. I lthink he’s a solid a player. I’m for that, and wouldn’t mind Johnson either.
Capt.Mudd
July 30th, 2012
1:01 am
i am severely crestfallen that i am not as dogmatic as some of the high status/long seniority blog folk seem to be and, it is improbable i will ever attain the rank of supreme blog enthusiast. my woeful imperfections and insolent temperament will win few hearts and minds. i understand eschewed as i am that a blog of squalor makes the robust throng rejoice in approval as a majority agenda unfolds more times than not.
nolie
July 30th, 2012
1:01 am
I don’t know about negativity. Frank doesn’t really have a history of big additions at deadline time for the most part
nolie
July 30th, 2012
1:03 am
care to rephrase that in language most of us dummies can understand, Capt????
Bobby H
July 30th, 2012
1:06 am
A beat reporter for the Giants, Andrew Baggarly, reports: “KPIX-TV is reporting that the Giants have a “deal in place” for Hunter Pence, pending ownership approval.”
nolie
July 30th, 2012
1:07 am
Pence? that will make them tougher, though his numbers will likely go down some
Bobby H
July 30th, 2012
1:09 am
care to rephrase that in language most of us dummies can understand, Capt???? — nolie
I think the Capt. is practicing for his run for office…
Ward
July 30th, 2012
1:11 am
I heard about Pence, and that would make the Giants tougher too.
Capt.Mudd
July 30th, 2012
1:12 am
You are only coming thru in waves….your lips move; but I can’t hear what you’re saying……have to take a snooze…..the gist of it is you’re just better off if you lose. Goodnight and indeed sleep tight.
Ward
July 30th, 2012
1:13 am
Capt. – Are you running for ship mate? little humor……
Bobby H
July 30th, 2012
1:14 am
Have a good snooze, Capt.Mudd.
nolie
July 30th, 2012
1:14 am
Ol’ Cap’ flaunting his Insouciance tonight
nolie
July 30th, 2012
1:15 am
i’m off, y’all take care
Bobby H
July 30th, 2012
1:25 am
Ol’ Cap’ flaunting his Insouciance tonight — nolie
The Capt. struck me as being apathetic, too.
‘Nite…
Bubsaget
July 30th, 2012
2:32 am
“BTW TEHERAN had a decent five+ innings this afternoon.”- richbrave
Box score says 5 walks in 5 innings. Only 2 strike outs. True, he only gave up one run, but it sounds like he was luckier than good. Am I the only one who fails to see why his value remains higher than Minor and Delgado? I remember an article in May about his back leg collapsing and screwing up the downward plane, making him easy to launch. Was that resolved? Anyone?
ab initio
July 30th, 2012
3:02 am
I wonder if Dyson is worried that Uggla, with a hose attachment, spells doom for their product line..
Ward
July 30th, 2012
4:04 am
Well, guy’s all be cool! Just maybe there will be news in the morning? We can only hope………Peace my friends, and always good talking to all of you. “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!” Talk tomorrow…….
Jeff R
July 30th, 2012
7:05 am
So much for my “hunch” that the Phils are going to make a run. The Bravos just thoroughly dominated the Phils.
Hard to believe pitchers the caliber of Halladay and Lee could be subpar this season. That’s a lot of budget money for two pitchers who are producing next to nothing.
Ray
July 30th, 2012
7:18 am
Reading about the train wreck that is up in Boston. Bobby V is irritating management, players, training staff. Of course Valentine is the smartest guy in the room. Any doubts just ask him. Of course its everyone’s fault but his. The training staff apparently tells Valentine that Crawford shouldn’t be out there because he is needing tommy john surgery. Valentine runs him out there. I remember the mess he would cause in the Met’s office.
phil
July 30th, 2012
7:29 am
I don’t know what the Red Sux were thinking when they hired Valentine…
The guy is more arrogant, for less reason, than any manager I’ve ever seen. At least LaRussa had a tendency to win and kick some butt, ya know?
Valentine wrecks everything he touches. He’ll be gone soon enough.
BravesFanInMaine
July 30th, 2012
7:30 am
Great way to start off a monday is with a sweep of the phillys…… now Lets win today and end that drought….. GO BRAVES!!
phil
July 30th, 2012
7:31 am
Jeff R – might be a lesson in Lee and Halladay for us and one that Wren has kept in mind….
Do you trade up and comers for older, established pitchers and run the risk that they tank?
Glad it’s not up to me. Tough job for sure.
richbrave
July 30th, 2012
7:33 am
DOWN ON THE FARM
GWINNETT
G-Men lose a close one in late-innings relief 2-3.
RHSP JULIO TEHERAN [5.16 ERA] 5.0 IP, 3 H, 1 R/ER, 5 BB, 2 SO.
LHRP DUSTIN HUGHES [H 4, 3.73 ERA] 1.0 IP, 1 H, zeros, 1 BB, 1 SO.
LHRP COLE McCURRY [H 2, 4.67 ERA] 1.0 IP, no-hits, 1 SO.
RHRP ANTHONY VARVARO [BS 1, L 0-12, 3.21 ERA] 1.1 IP, 3 H, 2 R/ER, 2 BB, 2 SO.
RHRP ‘AussieANDY’ RUSSELL [3.00 ERA] 0.0 IP, 1 H, blanks.
ANDY’s been struggling to get a grip on AAA so far. He allows the hit that plates two inherited runners, and that’s the old ball game.
1B ERNIE MEJIA [.307 BA] 1-3, 1 R, 1 HR [22], 1 RBI [75], 1 BB.
LF STEF GARTRELL [.267 BA] 1-3, 1 R, 1 HR [16], 1 RBI [43], 1 BB, 1 SO.
RF FELIX PIE [.296 BA] 1-4, 1 SB [12].
C JC BOSCAN [.198 BA] 1-2, 1 BB.
Ray
July 30th, 2012
7:41 am
yeah Phil, the guy has not won anything. I am not counting a japanese championship. I know some people briefly were saying hire him and fire Fredi. Chipper probably would have retired during spring training, unable to play for him. The training staff and management apparently are telling Valentine that Crawford needs days off because of the arm. He keeps trotting him out there. I saw the throw from left field to home by Crawford last night, and the poor guy was in pain after the throw.
Jepster38
July 30th, 2012
7:43 am
“The Red Sox have made calls to the Braves and Rangers within the past 48 hours in an attempt to dump Josh Beckett, according to Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports. Passan adds that the Red Sox began talks with the Rangers and Braves because they believe Beckett would waive his 10-and-5 rights to play for either team. While the Dodgers have yet to receive a call on Beckett, they’re one team that could potentially be interested in the right-hander, according to Passan (all Twitter links)”.
Keep the beer and chicken out of the clubhouse….. get the Red Sox to pick up 10 mil of his contract the next couple of years (ala Lowe) and get the guy.
Everything I’ve heard and read is that Beckett needs some motivation and that its not a talent eroding issue.
Beckett was not a model citizen under Tito, but he did his job. He hates Valentine, like most in the organization do. Can’t fault him for that.
richbrave
July 30th, 2012
7:45 am
DOWN ON THE FARM
The Bandits fail to eat BISCUITS for dinner 2-5.
DH ‘Big Jim’ GATTIS [.288 BA] 2-4, 1 SO.
This game marks the return of EVAN to the pirate ship after four warm-ups in ORLANDO.
Lead-off CF TODD CUNNINGHAM [.322 BA] 2-4, 2 R, 1 2B [17], 1 SB [16], 1 SO.
1B JOE TERDO [.308 BA] 1-3, 1 2B [16], 1 RBI [26], 1 SF,1 SO.
RF KEENAN WILEY [.249 BA] 1-3, 1 2B [14], 2 SO.
LHS/RP BRENT LEACH [L 0-3, 2.63 ERA] 6.0 IP, 8 H, 1 HR, 4 R/ER, 3 BB, 2 SO.
RHRP MARK LAMM [3.86 ERA] 2.0 IP, 3 H, 1 R/ER.
Jepster38
July 30th, 2012
7:45 am
“He’s (Beckett) in the second year of a four-year contract that pays him $15.75MM annually. Passan notes in this fourth tweet that Beckett’s market is largely dependent on how much salary the Red Sox are willing to eat. He’s owed approximately $37.3MM over the remainder of the contract.”
That salary eating part would depend on the quality of the prospect returned for Beckett of course.
Ray
July 30th, 2012
7:49 am
There is a lot of money still remaining on the Beckett contract. I think over 35m. The Sox would have to pick up a substantial amount. The talent is there without a doubt. Is the train wreck up in Boston the cause of his poor performance or is he not 100% healthy. That is my thought about josh johnson, I have a feeling we will be reading soon that Johnson is not 100%.
Ray
July 30th, 2012
7:51 am
I am guessing, in that conversation with the Redsox, Wren is asking how much of the contract they will keep.
Ray
July 30th, 2012
7:55 am
Apparently Rangers are turning their attention to a bat and relievers due to the high cost for a difference maker starter. Rangers saying they are not going to overpay for a starting pitcher. It sounds like the Braves and the Rangers have the same mindset and probably the right mindset.
Jepster38
July 30th, 2012
7:56 am
I agree on Johnson. His reliability is always been a problem. I don’t see how any team can invest the asking price on Johnson knowing that he’s one pitch away from another surgery or extended trip to DL.
If I’m the Braves, I send them Delgado plus, then get the Red Sox to do the Derrick Lowe thing and eat 10 mil of Becketts contract for the next two years. Red Sox could justify picking up the salary due to the return they are getting.
Yes the Red Sox are a dumpster fire.
I think Beckett has at least a couple more good years ahead of him and if the Braves are only paying him 5-7 a year, I think it’s worth it.
Ray
July 30th, 2012
7:59 am
Probably the worst thing that happened to the Redsox is that they won 2 of 3 to the yanks, giving them false hope that they are still in the wild card chase. They are only 4 games out but behind like 5 teams.
richbrave
July 30th, 2012
8:08 am
DOWN ON THE FARM
LYNCHBURG
‘CATS win big 9-3 over the RED SOX.
LF DAN BREWER [.324 BA] 4-5, 2 R, 1 2B [3], 1 3B [1], 1 HR [1], 3 RBI [4], 1 CS [2], 1 SO.
DAN the man bombs away as he hits for the cycle…..KUDOS.
RF BOBBY STEVENS [.249 BA] 3-4, 2 R, 1 2B [11], 1 HR [8], 2 RBI [23], 1 SO.
SS NICK AHMED [.273 BA] 1-5, 1 R, 1 SO.
3B ED SALCEDO [.256 BA] 1-5, 1 R, 1 2B [21], HAT TRICK!
DH ADAM MILLIGAN [.237 BA] 1-4, 1 R, 1 HR [11], 2 RBI [36], 1 BB, 2 SO.
1B CHRIS GARCIA [.295 BA] 1-4, 1 R, 1 HR [9], 1 RBI [46], 1 SO.
RHSP CODY MARTIN [W 11-7, 3.02 ERA] 7.0 IP, 1 H. zeros, 1 BB, 9 SO.
CODY continues to improve on the bump. A sure-fire GWINNETT starter next season.
RHRP RYNE HARPER [2.19 ERA] 1.0 IP, 2 BB.
LHRP MATT CHAFFEE [4.47 ERA] 1.0 IP, 3 H, 3 HR, 3 R/ER, 0 BB, 0 SO.
Three HR’s but nothing else…..jeeze
Jepster38
July 30th, 2012
8:10 am
Even if the Red Sox believe they can come back this year, I still feel they want to move Beckett due to the conflicts with he and certain Red Sox personnel and the manager.
Jeff R
July 30th, 2012
8:11 am
Jeff R – might be a lesson in Lee and Halladay for us and one that Wren has kept in mind….
With you, phil. I think the Delgado for Dempster deal would have been a mistake. I hope that possibility is deader than Dracula (with a stake in his heart).
For those who’ve been ragging on Minor, hard to argue that he hasn’t been trending in the right direction. The kid struggled early but has been figuring it out.
Delgado’s looked decent though he’s going through struggles typical of a young pitcher.
BravesFanInMaine
July 30th, 2012
8:14 am
I ragged on minor alot but I am seeing that this kid has alot of potential….. !!!!!
CrαZy
July 30th, 2012
8:14 am
OK maybe I’m nuts but, I’d do a Delgado + lower prospect for Beckett trade, but I’d want the Sox to pay at least half what he’s owed. That would make us responsible for 7.875m a year for 2013 and 2014. Doubt the Sox would go for that though!
CrαZy
July 30th, 2012
8:16 am
I still feel they want to move Beckett due to the conflicts with he and certain Red Sox personnel and the manager.
How much of that has affected his performance I wonder…
Jepster38
July 30th, 2012
8:17 am
It’s kind of like moving Youkilis. Sure they had a guy playing third that was doing well which made it easy to move Youk, but Youk and some of the old guard wasn’t fitting in with Valentine. Youk has been rejuvenated by the trade. His production with the White Sox has been up. He homered 4 times and drove in 14 in 42 games with the RS. He has homered 6 times and drove in 22 in 28 games with the WS. I think Beckett would respond well to a change of scenery…. at least for a couple of years which is what is left of his contract.
Jeff R
July 30th, 2012
8:18 am
I think the restraint that Wren showed over a Greinke acquisition was admirable. He wasn’t willing turn over key prospects for a pitcher who may or may not have signed with the Braves moving forward.
JasonInFL
July 30th, 2012
8:19 am
I don’t think the Angels overpaid for Greinke. But, I wouldn’t give up that type of package for too many other pitchers that are available…if any.
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2012
8:20 am
HUGE HUGE!!! Statement Series SWEEP of the Phillies
SOMEONE CALL 911!!!
We Just Put a Fatality on the Phillies Season, Shyt was AWESOME, I LOVED IT
We Just Showed those Phillies Fans KARMA For Mocking the Chop Twice last year at CBP
How SWEEP it Is!
CrαZy
July 30th, 2012
8:23 am
I think Beckett would benefit from coming to ATL less media and a better club house! Hell… I might be ok if we had to pay him 10 M per year.
He’s owed 31.5 for 2013 and 2014 if the sox ate 11.5 million we’d have to pay him 10 million a year for 2 years. Hell, we’re paying Lowe 10 million to pitch in Cleveland… I think Beckett is more than worth taking a chance on.
Jeff R
July 30th, 2012
8:24 am
I don’t think the Angels overpaid for Greinke. But, I wouldn’t give up that type of package for too many other pitchers that are available…if any.
The Angels can give up good prospects because they have the budget to go buy talent. Not the same for the Braves. But if the Angels want to retain Greinke – and I think they will – they may have to give him a package similar to Hammels.
I wouldn’t give Greinke that sort of money.
JoeFan
July 30th, 2012
8:27 am
If the Braves can get another decent bat and solid arm for the bullpen, then, barring significant injuries, they are in good shape to stay in contention all the way to season’s end. Don’t believe the Braves acquire either Beckett or Dempster unless the trade is in their favor.
BravesFanInMaine
July 30th, 2012
8:27 am
what does everyone think about this…. last two year of becketts contract calls for roughly 15-16 million a season…… Do you think the braves say we will take on all of his salary but not give you the great prospects in return for getting beckett…. If we traded delgado and a prospect for beckett!
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2012
8:29 am
How much of that has affected his performance I wonder
I think it’s his FB velo more than “personality conflicts”, whatever that means. His velo is down 2 MPH this year from all of his previous seasons. His K/9 rate is down significantly as well.
That said, his FIP and xFIP suggest he should be posting a better ERA than he has been this year. If the price is right, and Boston picks up some cash, I don’t think he’d be a back pickup. A couple of big if’s, though.
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2012
8:31 am
I am Damn Near Getting Death Threats on the Philly.com/phillies forum
lol
richbrave
July 30th, 2012
8:32 am
DOWN ON THE FARM
ROME
The Legion squash insects all afternoon long 6-2.
LHSP ALEX WOOD [W 1-2, 1.80 ERA] 5.0 IP, 2 H, 1 R/ER, 1 BB, 2 SO.
The rookie second-rounder gets his first win in A-ball.
RHRP NAVARY MOORE [H 1, 4.15 ERA] 3.0 IP, 1 H, 1 R/ER, 2 BB, 0 SO.
NAVARY’s been spinning his wheels a bit, but has an excellent stint in middle relief this time.
RHRP NAT HYATT [2.08 ERA] 1.0 IP, 1 H, zeros, 1 SO.
The rookie’s enjoying his promo from DANVILLE after three games in ROME.
Rookie 2B ROSS HEFFLEY [.302 BA] 2-3, 1 2B [10], 1 RBI [13], 1 BB.
SS ELMER REYES [.267 BA] 2-3, 1 R, 1 2B [23]. 1 RBI [31], 1 CS [5].
LF CHASE ANSELMENT [.222 BA] 2-3, 3 R, 2 HR [4], 3 RBI [10], 1 BB.
Break-out game for the rookie??
3B BRANDON DRURY [.220 BA] 2-4, 1 R, 1 3B [1], 1 RBI [33], 1 SO.
DH ROBBY HEFFLINGER [.259 BA] 1-4, 1 R, HAT TRICK!
C RYAN QUERY [.200 BA] 1-4.
RF WIL SKINNER [.248 BA] 1-4.
CrαZy
July 30th, 2012
8:33 am
The Marlins are far more concerned about their club beyond 2013 as opposed to 2013 itself, executives who have inquired on Josh Johnson told Passan. Those sources say the Marlins plan to cut payroll next year, after this year’s franchise high. MLBTR
We’ll no S**t…. I don’t think anyone really thought that Loria was suddenly going to start spending money like crazy on his team!! Dude just wanted to sell some season tickets! I bet he was chomping at the bit for them to start losing so he could ship off some pieces to save money. I’ve always thought Miami had the worst baseball fans in the game, but who can blame them when you have to deal with this crap.
How in the world did the city of Miami get away with funding his new stadium?
richbrave
July 30th, 2012
8:37 am
CraZy:
Thanx for the offer, but we’re arranging a sit-down with B.J. and JUSTIN UPTON’s parents to try and get a handle on this pro thing.
Brian from SC
July 30th, 2012
8:38 am
The Braves have seven players with 250 or more PAs…one at every position except SS. Here is how those 7 regulars rank in OPS now:
1. Chipper – .901
2. Heyward – .825
3. Freeman – .795
4. Prado – .787
5. Bourn – .781
6. McCann – .755
7. Uggla – .711
That’s actually pretty good depth. No team in baseball has more than 7 players with 250 or more PAs and an OPS over .700. The D-Backs, Yankees, Rangers, and Twins all have seven along with Atlanta.
ncscoots
July 30th, 2012
8:40 am
I remember an article in May about his back leg collapsing and screwing up the downward plane, making him easy to launch. Was that resolved? Anyone?
That may have been Rob Steingall you read. He did indeed focus on a collapsing back leg as part of Teheran’s problems. John Sickels thinks it might be an unreported or undiagnosed injury. Fifteen other guys think it might be fifteen other things.
Efrim
July 30th, 2012
8:40 am
Heyward at .261/.355/.413 in 107 July plate appearances.
And he’s starting to heat up again, in his last 10 games, Heyward is hitting .270/.391/.486 in 46 plate appearances.
Efrim
July 30th, 2012
8:44 am
What’s everyones thoughts on Sickels? He’s okay – but it often times seems like he just scouts the stat line of a player. Just my two cents.
Brian from SC
July 30th, 2012
8:45 am
That .900 OPS for Chipper looks mighty nice. It would be quite a feat, but if he were to maintain that OPS and get to 350 PAs, it would be his 12th such season. He would be the 18th player to collect that many .900 OPS season.
As a third baseman, it would be Chipper’s 10th .900 OPS season, one behind Michael Jack Schmidt for the most at the hot corner.
ncscoots
July 30th, 2012
8:45 am
I think Beckett would benefit from coming to ATL less media and a better club house! Hell… I might be ok if we had to pay him 10 M per year.
Ii doubt that any othe FA pitchers this offseason (worth having) are going to be any cheaper than that, so why not?
Efrim
July 30th, 2012
8:46 am
Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
It’s unlikely the Red Sox will trade Josh Beckett, after talking with a small handful of teams about him.
Pretty sure the Braves would want the Red Sox to eat more than half of his remaining salary. They will have to trade him this offseason. They can’t continue on with the circus in Boston.
Brian from SC
July 30th, 2012
8:47 am
I remember a couple of years ago people were wanting Chipper to hang it up so his career batting average wouldn’t dip below .300. It’s at .305 and rising now.
ncscoots
July 30th, 2012
8:47 am
He’s okay – but it often times seems like he just scouts the stat line of a player. Just my two cents.
I wouldn’t much disagree with that, but he also doesn’t claim to have seen every high school, college, and minor league player in the universe, while preparing a tasty balsamic vinaigrette, either.
CB
July 30th, 2012
8:48 am
Yep, get Beckett if the price is reasonable. He needs to get out of Boston before they send him out on a rail.
Brian from SC
July 30th, 2012
8:50 am
Lot of talk about pitching needs, and justifiably so, I think…however the Braves’ team ERA now stands at 3.90, which is the lowest it’s been since April 29th.
They have a 3.55 team ERA since June 1st.
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2012
8:50 am
I wouldn’t much disagree with that, but he also doesn’t claim to have seen every high school, college, and minor league player in the universe, while preparing a tasty balsamic vinaigrette, either.
Ha! Well done.
Efrim
July 30th, 2012
8:51 am
I believe Beckett is owed 15.75 million per year through 2014 – I would ask the Red Sox to eat at least a third of the 31.5 million. At least….
And a switch to the NL from the AL East is going to help him. Look at A.J. Burnett(although the NL Central is really bad.
TennesseePaul
July 30th, 2012
8:52 am
What’s everyones thoughts on [Keith Law]? He’s okay – but it often times seems like he just scouts the stat line of a player. Just my two cents.
Lew
July 30th, 2012
8:52 am
Beckett for a deal like we made for Renteria when the Red Sox didn’t want him anymore? Trade a prospect that won’t go anywhere and have them eat the salary?
Now Beckett at $5 mil a year might be a deal.
Efrim
July 30th, 2012
8:52 am
but he also doesn’t claim to have seen every high school, college, and minor league player in the universe, while preparing a tasty balsamic vinaigrette, either.
Very true.
TennesseePaul
July 30th, 2012
8:53 am
Haven’t had a chance to go through all the posts after the game and through the morning but I was wondering if we can have a show of hands… How many people still believe the Phillies are a threat in the National League this season?
CrαZy
July 30th, 2012
8:53 am
They can’t continue on with the circus in Boston.
Then why don’t they get rid of the circus (Bobby V)?
TennesseePaul
July 30th, 2012
8:53 am
while preparing a tasty balsamic vinaigrette, either
Zing! IBKL
Brian from SC
July 30th, 2012
8:53 am
How many people still believe the Phillies are a threat in the National League this season?
No.
TennesseePaul
July 30th, 2012
8:54 am
BrianSC, it was amusing to read those posts before the series, curious to see how many will still own up to that thought after the fact.
Brian from SC
July 30th, 2012
8:56 am
And even less so in the next couple of days, as they trade off Victorino and maybe Pence.
CrαZy
July 30th, 2012
8:56 am
How many times was it the great Howard K’ed? 8 times in the series?
Efrim
July 30th, 2012
8:57 am
What’s everyones thoughts on [Keith Law]?
Hah!
Maybe I haven’t read Sickels enough…..but I just don’t see this from him:
New York Mets right-hander Matt Harvey had top-of-the-rotation stuff on Thursday night in Arizona, with a plus fastball and slider combination that carved up Arizona Diamondbacks hitters. He was 94-98 mph for five innings with some arm-side run, hard enough to get it by hitters even though the pitch lacks any sink or downhill plane. The slider was toxic at 87-91 mph, a grade-70 pitch pretty much all outing, shorter like a cutter and breaking very late. He threw it down and in to left-handers in lieu of his changeup, which was solid at 87-89 mph with good arm speed but which he barely used.
He was casting his curveball early in the game but did throw several sharper ones, all 83-85 mph and when it was on, it was not only tough to hit but a pitch he could also throw for strikes. I’ve never seen Harvey throw this hard or with a slider this sharp, so he may have just been amped up for his first big league start, but if this is the ‘new’ Matt Harvey, Mets fans should be even more excited than they were before.
Harvey’s delivery, a major weakness of his before his junior year in college, is even cleaner now than it was when he was drafted. He stays over the rubber longer than he did then, still gets out over his front side very well and gets his arm, always quick, into perfect position when his front foot lands. He did lose his arm slot in the sixth inning on Thursday and was no longer able to command the fastball, which the Mets’ coaching staff picked up on pretty quickly, letting him face one more right-handed batter before pulling him.
And Law could just be stealing that from a scout who was also in attendance that day. But I just never see this stuff from Sickels….and not really from Goldstein either. At least Keith is attempting….giving it a shot, no?
ncscoots
July 30th, 2012
8:58 am
I would ask the Red Sox to eat at least a third of the 31.5 million. At least….
Now, that’s just being greedy, LOL. I see nothing wrong with skimping on the trade package and paying more for the guy. They have money off the books, so, if not 2013, then when? The days of a Tim Hudson willing to pitch for under market value are as rare as hens’ teeth. Braves are gonna have to pay somebody, sometime.
Brian from SC
July 30th, 2012
8:58 am
How many times was it the great Howard K’ed? 8 times in the series?
1 for 11 with 8 strikeouts in the series. One single, no walks.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 30th, 2012
8:59 am
How many people still believe the Phillies are a threat in the National League this season?
ME!!! lol
Actually, I’ve said they’re toast since late May, early June….. but some still “believed”. Historic comebacks happen every year, I guess.
Efrim
July 30th, 2012
8:59 am
How many people still believe the Phillies are a threat in the National League this season?
it was amusing to read those posts before the series, curious to see how many will still own up to that thought after the fact.
MFin was on the Philly bandwagon. Of course.
A few others who probably will never show up here again. It’s tough to take people seriously after glowing about one of Jair Jurrjens starts and thinking he is back. Then also thinking the Phillies are back after a 8-4 12 game stretch despite being 12 back in the loss and like 10 game sunder .500.
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2012
8:59 am
Trap Series Coming Up against the AAA Miami Marlins…Hope we Split this one and take care of business this weekend!
Ray
July 30th, 2012
9:00 am
There is a decent chance that Bobby V is out of there this year. Unless they deem that most of the problem was primarily due to their injuries, giving him 2013 to do something.
Brian from SC
July 30th, 2012
9:01 am
Not only are the players older and not as good now, but the Phillies don’t have that mojo going anymore. Lots of mental lapses and defensive mistakes, walks. Just a totally different team this year.
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2012
9:01 am
This team is known to play down to the level of their competition because they have been so inconsistant all season…Would Love to go 5-2 for the week
Lew
July 30th, 2012
9:01 am
Crazy – It was a circus in Boston before Valentine got there, even though he’s done nothing to make it better.
Brian from SC
July 30th, 2012
9:01 am
A split against Miami would be a little disappointing. The Braves have outclassed them so far this year.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 30th, 2012
9:02 am
. It’s tough to take people seriously after glowing about one of Jair Jurrjens starts and thinking he is back.
This. Our “ace” sukked so much that he’s in the pen and likely to be replaced. Awesome!!! JJ is done.
Brian from SC
July 30th, 2012
9:03 am
This team is known to play down to the level of their competition because they have been so inconsistant all season…Would Love to go 5-2 for the week
The Braves are 29-13 against teams with a losing record this season.
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2012
9:03 am
“How many people still believe the Phillies are a threat in the National League this season?”
The Scare the tar out of me in the last 2 Series in September…They are gonna play the role of spoiler…
Their fans are wanting Chipper to get drilled in that they thought he showed up Doc Holliday yesterday after the homerun, they thought he was walking around the bases too slow…They also want to Drill B-Macc…
Lew
July 30th, 2012
9:04 am
Playing down to the competition? YOu mean they should have won all of the last six games instead of going 5-1 against bad teams?
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2012
9:04 am
Brian from SC
July 30th, 2012
9:03 am
“This team is known to play down to the level of their competition because they have been so inconsistant all season…Would Love to go 5-2 for the week”
The Braves are 29-13 against teams with a losing record this season.—Brian From SC
Good, Dont stop now, Im hoping that they don’t let their guard down and Slack off knowing that they are going up against a AAA caliber team that is missing Hanley and Giancarlo Stanton
Brian from SC
July 30th, 2012
9:07 am
The Braves have outscored Miami 44-17 in 8 games head-to-head so far.
TennesseePaul
July 30th, 2012
9:07 am
And Law could just be stealing that from a scout who was also in attendance that day…
Cherry Picking. Pull up all those reports on Gattis when Law had a detailed explanation of his work in Left Field after 2 games at the position… ( :
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 30th, 2012
9:07 am
Their fans are wanting Chipper to get drilled in that they thought he showed up Doc Holliday yesterday after the homerun, they thought he was walking around the bases too slow…They also want to Drill B-Macc…
Wow, those Philthy fans are stupid. Chipper always jogs that “slowly”. Don’t know what BMac did other than hit.
Brian from SC
July 30th, 2012
9:09 am
This is the Braves fifth streak of five or more wins this season. It’s a little surprising that they’ve only had one losing streak that long, but it was that 8-game doozy.
TennesseePaul
July 30th, 2012
9:09 am
Phillies don’t have that mojo going anymore. Lots of mental lapses and defensive mistakes, walks
So true. They are sloppy with just about every play. They just don’t look like a good team. Maybe that is a result of the injuries, but whatever the cause, it is too late for them this season.
Brian from SC
July 30th, 2012
9:10 am
going 5-1 against bad teams?
And 17 more consecutive games against losing teams coming up.
TennesseePaul
July 30th, 2012
9:11 am
MFin was on the Philly bandwagon. Of course.
Of course. I couldn’t remember exactly who it was, but that makes sense.
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2012
9:11 am
@TOBF
“Wow, those Philthy fans are stupid. Chipper always jogs that “slowly”. Don’t know what BMac did other than hit.”
I think they Want B-Macc Drilled because he kills them…Not to mention I had to Rub Salt into their Wound by doing one of my Well Known
B-MAACCCCCCCCC
BOOM SHOTLOCK BOOM
posts on their forum…
Do you think it lights a fire in their Fans asses when I do that on their forum?
You Damn Right it does, Its Karma for their Fans Mocking the Chop last year (Twice) and thinking it was funny. I told their fans a year ago, that I wasn’t gonna go out like that!
ncscoots
July 30th, 2012
9:12 am
And 17 more consecutive games against losing teams coming up.
Don’t the Nats have a similarly favorable schedule coming up, also? Or am I misremembering?
Lew
July 30th, 2012
9:12 am
Last year the Phillies subs took over and performed – this year they’re not. Smae with the pen – last r Bastardo was lights out and so were the rest of them – this year they can’t get outs. And – of course – Ibanez is gone.
TennesseePaul
July 30th, 2012
9:15 am
They are gonna play the role of spoiler…
Here is a list of teams which will be playing the role of spoiler this year: Colorado, New York, Miami, Philadelphia and perhaps Pittsburgh. Some of those teams will play that role better than others. For example, I don’t see the Phillies playing it better than the Mets.
Brian from SC
July 30th, 2012
9:15 am
Don’t the Nats have a similarly favorable schedule coming up, also? Or am I misremembering?
They get the Phillies, Marlins, and Astros coming up. But then, while the Braves are playing Mets and Padres, they get the D-Backs and Giants. Not quite as easy as the Braves’ sched in this stretch.
Regardless, the Braves are going to have to beat them head to head to take the division. Only six games left.
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2012
9:16 am
“And 17 more consecutive games against losing teams coming up.”
Good to see that…Now its Win or Go Golfing Time, I dont think the Braves will catch the Curley W’s. They are like the 1994 Expos, Total Pests!
That Last series of the Season in Pittsburgh is Gonna be EPIC, Expect a Lot of Rowdy Stillers Fans There ready to Throw Down!
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2012
9:16 am
Speaking of the Phillies, that Ryan Howard contract is looking worse and worse by the day.
Jepster38
July 30th, 2012
9:16 am
Although not unanimous, picking up Beckett at a reasonable price seems to be a popular opinion here.
I think it’s a good gamble and as I said in an earlier post, the talking heads on MLB network feel like it’s all about getting him motivated, nothing physical or loss of talent.
Greinke and Dempster were rentals that required a significant investment to aquire. (Delgado or Teheran) Beckett, with Boston picking up enough of his salary, isn’t a rental. He’s 2 more years of contract past this season!
If the financials can be worked out, this is more worth a Delagado/Teheran and a lesser prospect deal than the Dempster or Greinke deal would have been. Besides, the better the prospects sent, the more likely the Sox are to eat more contract.
Bravesfaninnc
July 30th, 2012
9:16 am
Good Morning I have a feeling that today we will hear that the Braves made a trade for a starting pitcher.
Brian from SC
July 30th, 2012
9:16 am
Speaking of the Phillies, that Ryan Howard contract is looking worse and worse by the day.
And it looked bad the day it was signed.
TennesseePaul
July 30th, 2012
9:17 am
Don’t the Nats have a similarly favorable schedule coming up, also?
They’re supposed to be fading into the background soon, right scoots? ( :
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2012
9:19 am
And it looked bad the day it was signed.
Which should tell you how little I think of it now.
Brian from SC
July 30th, 2012
9:19 am
It may take on the order of 95 wins to win the division. That’s 38-23 the rest of the way. If the Braves finish off this homestand with a 5-2, it would be 33-21. Not exactly Mount Everest, IMO.
CB
July 30th, 2012
9:20 am
Anybody else have problems with flash player 11.3 freezing? Irritating as heck.
TennesseePaul
July 30th, 2012
9:21 am
Just read that copy/paste rumor about Beckett… it’s hard to believe he has been in Boston for more than 5 years. Seems like that deal went down yesterday. And I’m also glad to know the “Beckett is the best post season pitcher” talk is done with.
Lew
July 30th, 2012
9:21 am
Do the Nats shut down Strasburg or not and if not, does it cause physicalproblems with him going forward?
ncscoots
July 30th, 2012
9:21 am
Since July 15, Bourn is hitting .190 and Prado is hitting .218, and the Braves are still winning, in spite of it. Couldn’t rationally expect the two of them to be unconscious the entire season, but it’s gratifying to see that the team can still score plenty when they slump.
While some here bemoaned the offensive stand-pat stance this past offseason, others quietly opined that these guys would hit, and hit a lot. The team has so far seemed to be able to weather the slumps that naturally occur, whether it’s McCann, Uggla, Heyward in May, or Bourn/Prado now. There is more offensive depth on this club than most in recent memory.
Frankie
July 30th, 2012
9:22 am
Yesterday showed why the club needs to pick up a couple of extra pieces. The Nats aren’t going anywhere and can’t bank on other teams helping you from here on out. That was a helluva comeback(3 of them) and they battle albeit a horrible Brewer team. Need to punch these guys in the face and win both series that are left. A couple of more pieces would go a long way.
TennesseePaul
July 30th, 2012
9:23 am
Not exactly Mount Everest, IMO.
It’s “only” .623 ball… of course the team has “only” played .564 ball to date.
Bravesfaninnc
July 30th, 2012
9:23 am
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Bravesfaninnc
July 30th, 2012
9:24 am
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Brian from SC
July 30th, 2012
9:25 am
It’s “only” .623 ball… of course the team has “only” played .564 ball to date.
True. They have to continue to play very well, not just pretty well, to win the division.
TennesseePaul
July 30th, 2012
9:25 am
Do the Nats shut down Strasburg or not and if not, does it cause physicalproblems with him going forward?
They say yes. I think they’d be wise by keeping the limits on him, but change the frequency at which he starts. Instead of every 5th game, move it to every 6th game or so… whatever it would take to get him into games down the stretch, and in the post season. That’d be stronger for the team than just completely subtracting him from the equation.
CB
July 30th, 2012
9:25 am
Thanks, Bravesfaninnc.
Frankie
July 30th, 2012
9:26 am
Interesting conversation from TBS crew(Ernie Johnson, Smoltz, Darling). EJ asked what team really needs to make a move and without hesitation Smoltzie says Braves. Pretty obvious to a lot of folks that the Braves are a few pieces away to possible World Series entry if Wren can pull off something next couple of days.
Lew
July 30th, 2012
9:26 am
Strasburg – going back to when he started college – has not pitched more than 123 IP in a season and he’s at 117 now. If the Verducci Effect is to be believed, he’s getting close now and it’s not even August 1.
CrαZy
July 30th, 2012
9:26 am
Everyone see the video of the Brawl over the weekend in Pearl?
ncscoots
July 30th, 2012
9:27 am
It may take on the order of 95 wins to win the division.
I kinda doubt it. That’s a lot, man.
Maybe someobdy can retrieve a few of those offseason posts that spoke of a division winner with 88, since the division was going to be so “strong top to bottom, they’ll beat up on each other”. I mean, they were funny then, ought to be hilarious now.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 30th, 2012
9:28 am
it’s gratifying to see that the team can still score plenty when they slump.
And Uggla hasn’t hit either… just wait till he gets HOT!
If the Verducci Effect is to be believed, he’s getting close now and it’s not even August 1.
Verducci Effect? Psssh
Everyone see the video of the Brawl over the weekend in Pearl?
Yeah. Wasn’t impressive, I’ve seen better fights in HS ball…
Brian from SC
July 30th, 2012
9:28 am
This is kinda funny and shows how the game has changed from a generation or two ago…there are three hitters tied for first in the NL with 116 strikeouts. They are all middle infielders. Weeks, Uggla, and Espinosa.
Mixxo
July 30th, 2012
9:30 am
23 wins away from my predicted 80 win season!
We got this…..I think.
Anders
July 30th, 2012
9:32 am
What’s up Braves fans? I haven’t been here since the All Star break when I said I didn’t think my Mets could sustain their first half pace and i’d be happy if they played .500 ball over the second half. Wow, I mean I knew they were playing a bit over their heads and there was some smoke and mirrors involved but I certainly didn’t expect this fall off a cliff they’ve endured. Man has there bullpen killed them.
Meanwhile your guys seem to be on a roll. Clearly just you and the Nats for the division from here on out and a possible WC for the runner up. Makes for a fun late summer. I’m jealous.
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2012
9:32 am
@Mixxo
lol
Whats Happening Chief!
TennesseePaul
July 30th, 2012
9:33 am
Verducci Effect? Psssh
It’s been pretty good with it’s flags. It isn’t 100%, but it’s more accurate than anything else out there.
Bravesfaninnc
July 30th, 2012
9:33 am
So what do you guys think of going after Beckett? I myself would much rather Wren to go after Jon Lester.
ncscoots
July 30th, 2012
9:35 am
True. They have to continue to play very well, not just pretty well, to win the division.
That makes an assumption that the Nats will play better than .600 ball the rest of the season. No slumps. No drop-off. At all.
Last year, they managed to increase their win total by 11. Assuming that they perfrom just as well this year, that’s still only 91 wins. And increasing win totals by count becomes harder as each win repesents a smaller percentile of increase. What you are saying is that they can increase their win total to 94, and I think that’s a little much.
TennesseePaul
July 30th, 2012
9:35 am
However it turns out for the Pirates, I am really hoping they at least finish the season with a winning record. 20 years in the wilderness is long enough I think.
Frankie
July 30th, 2012
9:36 am
“How many people still believe the Phillies are a threat in the National League this season?”
Funny I actually felt a twinge of sadness for that team last night. Loving that the Philly fans are sick to their stomachs but got to be a little difficult knowing a team’s dominance is over. For last 5 years they have really put the screws to the Braves, give them credit.
Kind of think that’s why you go for it this season. Nationals possibly can make a Philly run the next 5 yrs. Hate to be second fiddle to another team in this division.
Nats will make the playoffs but Braves can win a 7 game series with Nats, Reds, Giants, LA. Nats aren’t going to fold down the stretch IMO and youth won’t hurt them. 7 game playoff? Experience might be a factor. Next year will be probably more difficult for the Braves to upseat this team. Do it now, make move(s)
Mixxo
July 30th, 2012
9:37 am
Been busy as heck T. Festivals, concerts, etc.
Lets get #6 tonight!
Mornin’!!
David O'Brien
July 30th, 2012
9:37 am
How man folks here think Josh Beckett, at 32 and with a whole lot of mileage, a declining fastball, arrogance and a pretty poor clubhouse reputation, would be a good pickup for the Braves? How much of the $37 million that he’s owed between now and the end of the 2014 season would the Red Sox need to cover for the negatives to be outweighed? (Did we mention that his one good season in the past three — a great season in 2011 — was sandwiched between a 5.78 ERA in 2010 and 4.57 ERA this season?)
richbrave
July 30th, 2012
9:37 am
Enjoyed PARKERS BBQ twice this past week. First time. The best. Must be the same recipe as the hole-in-the-wall place where I enjoyed BBQ as a youngster.
Brian from SC
July 30th, 2012
9:38 am
The Nats would need to go 33-28 the rest of the way to get to 94 wins.
TennesseePaul
July 30th, 2012
9:38 am
I myself would much rather Wren to go after Jon Lester.
The Braves will be acquiring a reliever, if they acquire anyone by tomorrow.
Frankie
July 30th, 2012
9:38 am
Almost would take my chances playing the Cards in a WC playoff than seeing them in a 7 game series. Would love to win the division, but this team and fans need to not fear the “dreaded 1 game WC match”. Screw it, got to keep winning regardless. If it happens to be a WC berth, so be it. Get it done.
tiger297
July 30th, 2012
9:39 am
braves & nats have the easiest remaining schedules of the potential playoff teams (braves/nats/reds/pirates/dodgers/giants/cardinals)
braves
richbrave
July 30th, 2012
9:39 am
DAVID:
I’m assuming you get semi-regular shipments of PARKER’s BBQ.
TennesseePaul
July 30th, 2012
9:40 am
(And we didn’t mention that his one good season in the past three — a great season in 2011 — was sandwiched between a 5.78 ERA in 2010 and 4.57 ERA this season.
So, by highlighting the every-other-year syndrome suffered by Beckett, are you suggesting he’d be a good addition for next year’s staff? ( :
Anders
July 30th, 2012
9:40 am
Beckett? Not with a 10 foot pole. For various reasons the least of which is he’s a reported primadonna. And lots of innings on him. He could have been a Jack Morris type imo but wasn’t willing to do the work or endure the pain involved.
David O'Brien
July 30th, 2012
9:41 am
By the way, Beckett is 1-7 with a 5.27 ERA in 11 night games this season.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 30th, 2012
9:41 am
Thanks DOB, not getting why the love for Beckett here… then again, a declining fastball (speed doesn’t matter, right guys?), isn’t a red flag.
tiger297
July 30th, 2012
9:42 am
let me try and finish my thought here – below are games remaining against that group of teams
braves-16
nats-19
reds-18
pirates-22
giants-18
dodgers-24
ncscoots
July 30th, 2012
9:42 am
Nationals possibly can make a Philly run the next 5 yrs. Hate to be second fiddle to another team in this division.
Why is always so easy to believe that everything will go right for opponents and nothing will go right for the Braves, LOL? There is absolutely no reason to think that the Nats have a team that can dominate this division, other than their budget.
Bravesfaninnc
July 30th, 2012
9:43 am
@TennesseePaul I think we hear about a trade sometime today and I think it will be for a starting pitcher.
Jeff R
July 30th, 2012
9:44 am
Way to peg it at 9:37 am, DOB!
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 30th, 2012
9:44 am
Beckett has been pitching like JJ this year, esp. lately…. I say no thanks.
Anders
July 30th, 2012
9:45 am
Nationals possibly can make a Philly run the next 5 yrs. Hate to be second fiddle to another team in this division. (Whoever?)
Welcome to the rest of the NL East in the 90’s when you guys had the big three HOF pitchers at the top of the rotation. At least you have a 2nd WC shot these days!
Brian from SC
July 30th, 2012
9:45 am
It’s one thing when a small payroll team is trying to shed a contract. When the Boston Red Sox are trying to get rid of someone, it’s because they’re not good.
Bravesfaninnc
July 30th, 2012
9:46 am
Say no to Beckett Wren and go after Jon Lester please.
Frankie
July 30th, 2012
9:46 am
‘Why is always so easy to believe that everything will go right for opponents and nothing will go right for the Braves, LOL? There is absolutely no reason to think that the Nats have a team that can dominate this division, other than their budget.”
Well, if you look on PAPER, have to feel the Nats are slightly ahead of the Braves going forward. No Chipper, Bourn(what happens?) and Huddy being 38, Hanson having some questions, holes on the bench.
Being a little stubborn there my friend, Nationals are just a tiny bit better than you have been giving them credit. Bullish on Braves future, extremely bullish on Nationals.
Ray
July 30th, 2012
9:48 am
DOB shared strong facts on not going with Beckett. Wasn’t it Beckett asked about him playing golf on his off day while he missed a start due to a slight injury. the media, gave him 2-3 opportunities to say the right thing after coming across arrogant and dismissive. The Boston media during that press conference, was,, Josh,, don’t say it like that,, take 2. hey Beckett, hmmm that comes across worse.. lets do take 3. ugh, he is too self absorbed and arrogant to get it.
Jeff R
July 30th, 2012
9:48 am
First, the Nats have never experienced a stretch run where they’ve been contenders. They are, in other words, untested.
Now I’m not saying the Nats won’t perform well in the stretch, but I wouldn’t assume they do.
And, for a change, the Braves might of reversed their fortunes this season. Struggling to start and finishing strong.
Wouldn’t that be refreshing?
Brian from SC
July 30th, 2012
9:49 am
I do find it interesting that the Braves went with Medlen instead of Delgado in the rotation for now.
Lew
July 30th, 2012
9:50 am
DOB – It depends on whether or not we could get a Renteria type deal with them taking only one decent prospect and eating most of the salary.
Getting him out of Fenway and the AL East could only help him. Still……..might be in crapshoot territory no matter what.
richbrave
July 30th, 2012
9:50 am
ncscoots
July 30th, 2012
9:42 am
Nationals possibly can make a Philly run the next 5 yrs. Hate to be second fiddle to another team in this division.
“………Why is always so easy to believe that everything will go right for opponents and nothing will go right for the Braves, LOL? There is absolutely no reason to think that the Nats have a team that can dominate this division, other than their budget……..”
And nothing to suggest they’ll become GNATS once again either.
unbelievable
July 30th, 2012
9:50 am
Id rather move a piece like Delgado for a pitcher under team control like Beckett over a month of Ryan Dempster. Boston is a toxic place to play and while Beckett isnt who he was with Florida, he could still provide value at the right price. Frank would have to get Boston to eat a ton of money though.
Anders
July 30th, 2012
9:51 am
First, the Nats have never experienced a stretch run where they’ve been contenders. They are, in other words, untested. (JeffR)
As opposed to the Braves who were tested last year. How’d that go? just saying.
unbelievable
July 30th, 2012
9:51 am
And yes, Id much rather have Jon Lester over either Dempster or Beckett.
Brian from SC
July 30th, 2012
9:53 am
Problem is that Beckett still has two years left, which makes it a sizeable risk. Does playing in Boston make his fastball go slower? Because that’s a big part of his problem. I think the Red Sox would rather keep him than pay him $10 million a year for 2 years to pitch somewhere else. I don’t think any team would touch him unless Boston threw that kind of money at them.
Frankie
July 30th, 2012
9:53 am
“I do find it interesting that the Braves went with Medlen instead of Delgado in the rotation for now.”
Thinking smokescreen. Makes no sense. With Minor pitching better you can live with Randall as a 5th starter. Meds is lights out in his current role.
Randall very well could be wearing a different Cap this week.
Anders
July 30th, 2012
9:54 am
Lew- Why would Boston do that. Eat the salary AND under sell? Get them Braves colored bifocals off my friend. You’re only seeing one side of the equation.
Jeff R
July 30th, 2012
9:54 am
The Phillies’ run and the supposed upcoming Nats’ run are apples and oranges.
First, the Braves were declining while the Phillies were on the upswing. The Phils didn’t have a lot of competition in the division through their streak.
The Braves, certainly, and the Mets, quite possibly, have the nuclei and some key prospects to compete with the Nats moving afford.
I think the NL East is more likely to be highly competitive in coming seasons.
raleighbravefan
July 30th, 2012
9:55 am
richbrave – Yeah, Parkers is one of the best, although I know of a couple of places I like even better….but eastern NC style BBQ is all good.
Tumbledown
July 30th, 2012
9:56 am
As I state on another blog, the Braves should steer way clear of Beckett. He is declining and a cancer in the clubhouse. Lester is a much more intriguing option. Otherwise, stick with Medlen and try to get a proven reliever to bolster the bullpen.
Efrim
July 30th, 2012
9:56 am
Shields and Johnson are staying put, so it makes sense that the Braves are going after a reliever. I think Dempster lands in LA before his start tomorrow. Makes too much sense.
richbrave
July 30th, 2012
9:56 am
I think the BRAVES need to see what they’ve got with MEDS, starter or long-relief while giving DELGADO more time to improve his game in AAA and dominate. Hopefully, anyway.
Brian from SC
July 30th, 2012
9:57 am
I just don’t know why the Red Sox would trade Lester.
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2012
9:57 am
How much of the $37 million that he’s owed between now and the end of the 2014 season would the Red Sox need to cover for the negatives to be outweighed?
Huge point. He’s got the advantage of being controlled past this season, but he’s expensive and his FB velocity and K/9 decline are concerning. Boston would have to pick up a good chunk of that contract for Wren to even discuss it.
Frankie
July 30th, 2012
9:57 am
Nationals kick and scratch yesterday and win. Blow a 9 run lead against the Braves and somehow resilient and tough enough to win last two games of the series. Inexperience, haven’t been there, not buying that reasoning in regular season. Playoffs, well might rear it’s ugly head hopefully.
Nats have been the best team in the East for 4 straight months. Not going to cave in last two. Beat them in the playoffs, could be a little vulnerable there at least this year.
Jeff R
July 30th, 2012
9:57 am
First, the Nats have never experienced a stretch run where they’ve been contenders. They are, in other words, untested. (JeffR)
As opposed to the Braves who were tested last year. How’d that go? just saying.
Not well. See my 9:48 am post.
Jeff R
July 30th, 2012
9:58 am
First, the Nats have never experienced a stretch run where they’ve been contenders. They are, in other words, untested. (JeffR)
As opposed to the Braves who were tested last year. How’d that go? just saying.
Not well. See my 9:48 am post.
Lew
July 30th, 2012
9:58 am
Anders – Actually, I don’t believe they’d do it. But then again, they did with Renteria when they didn’t want him anymore. LIke I said earlier – if they ate ll bnut $5 mil a year it might be owrtth it, but I’m not really seeing that happening or much Braves interest.
I’ve said all along I think we’ll see bullpen additions and bench upgrade and not a starter at the prices being asked these days.
ncscoots
July 30th, 2012
9:58 am
And nothing to suggest they’ll become GNATS once again either.
Big difference in the two things, rich. I’m not suggesting that they will revert to being doormats. What I am suggesting is that the starting pitching (Gonzalez, Zimmerman, and Detwiler) is a little over their heads this season; the offense makes outs like they get gold stars for them; and they aren’t going to be drafting first, anymore.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 30th, 2012
9:59 am
I do find it interesting that the Braves went with Medlen instead of Delgado in the rotation for now.
I’m very intrigued by this. Maybe FW is close to trading Delgado???
DOB – It depends on whether or not we could get a Renteria type deal with them taking only one decent prospect and eating most of the salary.
I don’t think that would work. The guy has 2 more years left as well. It’s not going to be a D. Lowe kinda deal….
richbrave
July 30th, 2012
10:00 am
raleighbravesfan:
From the first mouthful, I instantly recollected the flavor from my youth. There will be no other for me. It’s all a matter of taste anyway. I just grew up eating that recipe of BBQ, and nothing can replace the memory. I’ll die happy eating order-up PARKER’s.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
July 30th, 2012
10:00 am
Tomahawkin They also want to Drill B-Macc…
They just better watch it!…And no plays at the plate!!!!…
Bravesfaninnc
July 30th, 2012
10:00 am
Btw Bowman @mlbbowman still believe that the Braves will end up with a starting pitcher.
Anders
July 30th, 2012
10:01 am
Efrim- How about my Rangers getting Nash for a couple of 3rd liners and a young middle of the road defenseman?
I can’t wait for them to lace them up again.
Jepster38
July 30th, 2012
10:01 am
Blog ate last two posts
Jeff R
July 30th, 2012
10:01 am
I think the BRAVES need to see what they’ve got with MEDS, starter or long-relief while giving DELGADO more time to improve his game in AAA and dominate. Hopefully, anyway.
Better than dealing for retreads, old men, and overpriced “stars.”
Brian from SC
July 30th, 2012
10:01 am
Those Reds are now tied with the Nats with a league-best 3.26 team ERA. They’ve had good health, using only 13 pitchers all year, and only five starters.
They’re a tough matchup for the Braves (and anyone else) with those great lefties in the pen.
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2012
10:02 am
How about my Rangers getting Nash for a couple of 3rd liners and a young middle of the road defenseman?
And the 30th pick in the draft. Don’t forget that.
Jeez. The Blue Jackets just can’t do anything right.
mark rappaport
July 30th, 2012
10:02 am
Forget trying to trade for a starting pitcher, the braves need a right handed hitting left fielder who can HIT
consistantly and with some power. When it comes to the playoffs, 2 good pitchers and some really good hitting seems to be the formula.
Frankie
July 30th, 2012
10:02 am
FW been way quiet the last couple of days. Guy is Phil Ivey this year. He’s going all in baby.
Getting a relief pitcher, Meds to the starting lineup gets you to the final table of 7 that’s it.
George
July 30th, 2012
10:03 am
MONDAY, MONDAY
Lew
July 30th, 2012
10:03 am
Bravefaninnc- And Bowman has been so accurate with his predictions this year.
Anders
July 30th, 2012
10:03 am
Fair enough Lew. I think if the Braves stay healthy they catch the Nats. The Braves are strong up the middle. McCann, decent starting pitching, Bourne and a lights out closer. That’s the recipe to winning late in the year. I think Clippard is weak and will wilt in September.
Frankie
July 30th, 2012
10:04 am
“Better than dealing for retreads, old men, and overpriced “stars.””
Like Rafael Furcal last season in St. Louis
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 30th, 2012
10:04 am
Btw Bowman @mlbbowman still believe that the Braves will end up with a starting pitcher.
Oh, well then we’re not getting a SP…. we all know how Bowman (and his sources) are.
Anders
July 30th, 2012
10:06 am
Steve from Ohio- and to be fair there is that $8mil a year they have to pay him. But hey, the Rangers are paying Wade Redding $6mil a year to ride the bus down on the farm for the 3rd year in a row! Remarkable.
Ok my flights gonna land soon. Check in with you guys later.
Ray
July 30th, 2012
10:07 am
I would rather have Lester than Beckett. Would cost less. Doesn’t appear to be a bad guy. Younger.
The phil’s a perfect case of signing multiple bad contracts because their budgets were increasing drastically.
Brian from SC
July 30th, 2012
10:07 am
Did you know the Braves are hitting just .220 over their current five-game winning streak?
Good pitching kinda helps, I’ve come to find.
Brian from SC
July 30th, 2012
10:07 am
I would rather have Lester than Beckett. Would cost less.
I assure you he would not cost less.
Jeff R
July 30th, 2012
10:07 am
Like Rafael Furcal last season in St. Louis
Sometimes you find a diamond in a pile of manure.
Anders
July 30th, 2012
10:08 am
Forget trying to trade for a starting pitcher, the braves need a right handed hitting left fielder who can HIT (Mark rappaport)
How about Jason Bay? He hits the wall with his head at least once a month.
raleighbravefan
July 30th, 2012
10:08 am
Anders – How could you, of all people, leave Chipper Jones off your list?
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 30th, 2012
10:09 am
Good pitching kinda helps, I’ve come to find.
Ah, Zack G. woulda been perfect. I hope Meds (or whoever else pitches) is a good one.
Jepster38
July 30th, 2012
10:09 am
DOB, your Beckett posts have almost a personal ring to them. Were you in Miami when Beckett was there?
I would take Beckett in a heartbeat if the Red Sox ate enough of his contract. Also, many people who are in the same business as you are seem to think Beckett has plenty left in the tank. I agree with them.
As to the subject of a “good clubhouse,” the Braves have always seemed to have a good clubhouse. It has resulted in one world championship since the run began in 1991.
The Yankees won world championships when they only spoke to each other on the field and didn’t have a “good clubhouse.”
Good clubhouses are great if you can have one, but good clubhouses don’t generally mean championships. Never have and probably never will. They don’t hurt, but they don’t help. IF you asked most fans if they would have their team sing Kumbaya or win a championship….. most would take the championship.
Tumbledown
July 30th, 2012
10:09 am
Even if the Braves got a proven starter, I belive there are a several teams on paper better than them (Angels, Nats, Reds, Yankees and Rangers). I have come to believe that the Braves should just get a proven reliever and go with a starting rotation of Sheets, Hudson, Hanson, Minor, and Medlen. I think they will get to the playoffs, and maybe the baseball gods will take a shine to the Braves once there. We will not mortgage the future where hopefully one or more of Teheran, Delgado, Vizcaino, Graham, and Gilmartin will develop. Plus, Beachy will be back next year. With our limited resourses, this is the best course for giving the Braves the best chances in the coming years.
I did not think this way earlier in the year, but the Braves have bounced back nicely from a stunning collapse last year, a woeful spring training, and an 0-4 start. There is some fight in this team. If nothing else, do not trade for Beckett or give up Delgado for Dempster (if that trade is somehow resurrected)
raleighbravefan
July 30th, 2012
10:10 am
Anders – I’m pretty excited about my Hurricanes…if they can avoid the dreaded lock out.
Frankie
July 30th, 2012
10:10 am
“Sometimes you find a diamond in a pile of manure. ”
Dempster off that pile would be shiny.
Murph
July 30th, 2012
10:11 am
I thought for sure I’d return from vacation to an all-new starting rotation. I guess adding Medlen counts.
Sure am glad the Dempster trade fell apart. That would have been one costly rental. Not very thrilled with the Beckett talk, unless his salary is 100% covered by the Red Sox and he only costs us Jack Wilson in exchange.
Seems that the team is doing pretty alright without adding an ace. A bullpen arm would be nice, but otherwise I’d stay the course. Unless Felix could be had.
raleighbravefan
July 30th, 2012
10:11 am
richbrave – No slight intended on my part for Parkers. If not the best, they’re pretty close. Were you in Wilson or Greenville? What was the occasion?
George
July 30th, 2012
10:11 am
Rainy days and BRAVES baseball on MONDAYS gets me down.
Efrim
July 30th, 2012
10:12 am
How about my Rangers getting Nash for a couple of 3rd liners and a young middle of the road defenseman?
Great trade. And my Penguins are something like 15 million under the cap for 2012-2013 and are set to go with Chris Kunitz and Pascal Dupuis with Sidney Crosby again…..
I am still laughin all the way to the bank on the Goligoski for James Neal trade with the Stars. James Neal is a stud.
Brian from SC
July 30th, 2012
10:12 am
The Braves’ starting pitcher has won each of the last five games. In the last 20 games, Braves starters not named Jair Jurrjens are 12-1. That one loss was Minor’s, when he gave up 2 runs in 7 innings in Miami.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 30th, 2012
10:13 am
We will not mortgage the future where hopefully one or more of Teheran, Delgado, Vizcaino, Graham, and Gilmartin will develop. Plus, Beachy will be back next year.
It’s gonna be a nice off-season + next trade deadline. There will be pieces to trade, IMO. We have quite a bit of pitching going to AAA and AA, and we likely can’t keep them all. Gonna be fun.
Efrim
July 30th, 2012
10:13 am
Mark Bowman @mlbbowman
@BBoland1988 Doesn’t sound like the Rays will deal Shields. Still have a hunch Braves will end up with a starting pitcher.
Sure hope it ain’t Ryan Dempster for Randall Delgado. I mean, Wren would be laughed at – and deservedly so.
Brian from SC
July 30th, 2012
10:15 am
Not sure the Braves would have to give up Delgado now if they revisited the trade. The Cubs seem to have lost a lot of leverage. Not much from the Dodgers camp on him either.
Lew
July 30th, 2012
10:15 am
George – Somehow, I’ve never imagined you as Karen Carpenter.
Efrim
July 30th, 2012
10:16 am
We will not mortgage the future where hopefully one or more of Teheran, Delgado, Vizcaino, Graham, and Gilmartin will develop. Plus, Beachy will be back next year.
I think the Braves are doing themselves an injustice by keeping all of those pitchers and not trading for some “right now” talent. I get that Teheran is the guy everyone wants, but they really should be able to get some good pieces for Delgado, Gilmartin, Graham or Spruill.
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2012
10:16 am
TheOnlyBravesFan
“Thanks DOB, not getting why the love for Beckett here… then again, a declining fastball (speed doesn’t matter, right guys?), isn’t a red flag.”
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Brian from SC
July 30th, 2012
10:16 am
The Braves are 15-5 in the last 20. 3-4 against winning teams (Nats, Giants), and 12-1 against losing teams.
Jeff R
July 30th, 2012
10:17 am
As to the subject of a “good clubhouse,” the Braves have always seemed to have a good clubhouse. It has resulted in one world championship since the run began in 1991.
The Braves have a rep for wanting a “good” clubhouse, meaning no dissension, no guys with attitudes, etc.
Whether you, I, or anyone else on this blog cares if there’s harmony in the clubhouse, the Braves’ management does. Just a fact.
As to DOB having something personal against Beckett, I’ll let the man speak for himself, if he cares to. But I read DOB’s post as a straight on this-is-the-facts summary of how crummy Beckett is.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 30th, 2012
10:17 am
Braves starters not named Jair Jurrjens are 12-1
And the starters named Jair Jurrjens have sukked recently. Is he still on the team? Yep… Make a trade FW, get him off the 25!!!
Juan
July 30th, 2012
10:17 am
We’re winning….we not need SP….JJ in the Pen & Medlen SP that what we need…The Was Nat has to have a Bad Month sooner than later…the next six game i hope Phillis & miami help us.
Efrim
July 30th, 2012
10:18 am
Really hoping Arodys Vizcaino starts at Gwinnett next year. Just keep him in that role and see what he can do now that he is recovering from TJ surgery.
Lew
July 30th, 2012
10:18 am
I really wouldn’t count on Beachy for much of anything of significance next year. MAYBE Vizcaino might help some later in the season, but I’d bet on Beachy for the start of 2014.
ncscoots
July 30th, 2012
10:19 am
Plus, Beachy will be back next year.
After the break, and unlikely to be full-tilt, even then. Can’t expect him to be the ERA leader when he returns. Better to plan for nothing from Beachy and be grateful for any gravy.
George
July 30th, 2012
10:19 am
Jeff R
July 30th, 2012
10:07 am
Like Rafael Furcal last season in St. Louis
Sometimes you find a diamond in a pile of manure.
***********************************
He is NOT a pile of manure. He should have been like CHIPPER a lifelong BRAVE. We should have signed him , NOT let him get away to LA.
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2012
10:19 am
Frankie
“Nationals kick and scratch yesterday and win. Blow a 9 run lead against the Braves and somehow resilient and tough enough to win last two games of the series. Inexperience, haven’t been there, not buying that reasoning in regular season. Playoffs, well might rear it’s ugly head hopefully.
Nats have been the best team in the East for 4 straight months. Not going to cave in last two. Beat them in the playoffs, could be a little vulnerable there at least this year.”
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raleighbravefan
July 30th, 2012
10:19 am
Efrim – But no Jordan Stall for you!
TennesseePaul
July 30th, 2012
10:20 am
There is absolutely no reason to think that the Nats have a team that can dominate this division, other than their budget.
“other than their budget”… which hasn’t even been maximized right now. That’s such a massive reason they could dominate the division. It’s one of the main reasons the Braves dominated in the 90’s, they developed young talent (like the Nats have) and retained the talent by expanding the payroll to second only to the Yankees. The most recent team to do this… The Phillies (developed young talent, expanded payroll to second in the majors). The Nats currently have a lower payroll than the Braves.
Now, another reason to think highly of the Nats? Their starting rotation has an average age of 25.8 and their four “core building blocks” (Werth, Espinosa, Zimmerman and Harper) have an average age of 26.
I’m not saying nothing will go right for the Braves, but every single Braves fan knows there is a limit to the Braves finances. A limit this team is already up against. The Nats aren’t up against their limit yet. If the Nats front office is competent, that team should be at the top of the division for a while. I doubt they will dominate the league as I suspect the Dodgers will start showing up again now that that ownership issue is resolved.
ncscoots
July 30th, 2012
10:20 am
Really hoping Arodys Vizcaino starts at Gwinnett next year. Just keep him in that role and see what he can do now that he is recovering from TJ surgery.
Bad timing for Arodys. I think it’ll be hard to resist slotting him behind Kimbrel.
unbelievable
July 30th, 2012
10:20 am
Vizcaino will have his innings limited next season, He’d probably start in the pen and may move to a starter role if necessary around the break.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 30th, 2012
10:21 am
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Doesn’t sound like the Rays will deal Shields. Still have a hunch Braves will end up with a starting pitcher.
Good, don’t want him, at least not now. He’s been pretty bad.
they really should be able to get some good pieces for Delgado, Gilmartin, Graham or Spruill.
Some bench players and relief pitchers. Not getting any top SP (which we need) with those guys (except Delgado, though it’d need to be a package)
I read DOB’s post as a straight on this-is-the-facts summary of how crummy Beckett is.</em.
As do I. All he did was post facts…
Jeff R
July 30th, 2012
10:21 am
I think the Braves are doing themselves an injustice by keeping all of those pitchers and not trading for some “right now” talent. I get that Teheran is the guy everyone wants, but they really should be able to get some good pieces for Delgado, Gilmartin, Graham or Spruill.
Maybe, maybe not.
What does getting “good pieces” for better regarded prospects cost the Braves in terms of budget?
I guess Wren could have met the Brewers ask for prospects for Greinke, but Greinke at Hammels-like salary levels would be too high a price moving forward.
George
July 30th, 2012
10:21 am
Lew
July 30th, 2012
10:15 am
Lew I had a dream. Tonight we will break out of it in a big way, like 17-5.
Tomahawkin
July 30th, 2012
10:23 am
Jeff R
“The Phillies’ run and the supposed upcoming Nats’ run are apples and oranges.
First, the Braves were declining while the Phillies were on the upswing. The Phils didn’t have a lot of competition in the division through their streak.”
Really? I thought that 2008 Squad was Gonna Go Places they were very talented on Paper with Hoss, TEX, and B-Macc hitting 3-4-5…That was a Sick Middle of the order
unbelievable
July 30th, 2012
10:24 am
Braves cant afford to give 20% of their payroll to someone who might get 30 starts a year, like Greinke/Hamels. It makes even less sense to offer up top prospects for these guys.
TennesseePaul
July 30th, 2012
10:24 am
Nats have been the best team in the East for 4 straight months. Not going to cave in last two.
And I disagree with this. I disagree that this is a foregone conclusion. This is baseball that these teams are playing. Anything can happen. The Cards “epic rise” was in no small part a gift from the Braves epic collapse. The Nats have clearly been the best team in the NL East this season, but the season isn’t over yet.
Having said that, I still think the Nats will be around all year. Contenders to the end, despite the protest from one on here ( : And I think the Nats have a higher probability of capturing the division than the Braves. But I’m willing to let the season play out. And I’m still hoping the Braves rise to the occasion.
Jeff R
July 30th, 2012
10:25 am
Sometimes you find a diamond in a pile of manure.
He [Furcal] is NOT a pile of manure. He should have been like CHIPPER a lifelong BRAVE. We should have signed him , NOT let him get away to LA.
Jorge, calm yourself. I didn’t say that Furcal was a “pile of manure.” I said sometimes you find a diamond in a pile of manure. Perhaps I should have used “scrapheap” in my metaphor?
TennesseePaul
July 30th, 2012
10:26 am
I think it’ll be hard to resist slotting him behind Kimbrel.
Bullpen lingo, but shouldn’t that be “in front of” Kimbrel? How’s that work in the bullpen descriptor lexicon?
David O'Brien
July 30th, 2012
10:26 am
As to DOB having something personal against Beckett, I’ll let the man speak for himself, if he cares to.
I’ve got nothing against him at all. In fact, I’ve known him since the day he signed with the Marlins after being drafted out of high school. Went to his hometown in Texas and hung out with him one day and night, did a story on him. Always got along with him when he was with Marlins.
That doesn’t change fact that he’s not nearly the pitcher he was, and that he’s got a poor reputation in Boston (and from talking to several Boston reporters that I know and trust, it’s warranted).
Brian from SC
July 30th, 2012
10:27 am
Kinda random and useless:
This is the first time in 12 years the Braves have had a five-game winning streak in which they tallied less than 10 hits in each game (they had a six-game streak like that in 2000). It’s only happened two other times (1995 and 1997) since the 90s started.
Jeff R
July 30th, 2012
10:27 am
Really? I thought that 2008 Squad was Gonna Go Places they were very talented on Paper with Hoss, TEX, and B-Macc hitting 3-4-5…That was a Sick Middle of the order
Hmm… Pitching woes, as I recall.
Lew
July 30th, 2012
10:27 am
George – Furcal missed 302 games from 2007 through 2011.
This year – his All Star return, he was hitting .319, .373, .440 on JUne 7 and today is hitting .272, .341, .352.Quuite a dropoff.
raleighbravefan
July 30th, 2012
10:27 am
Great comeback by the Nats yesterday. Keeping it real, though, the Brewer’s BP is terrible…and the Nats DID give up 10 runs. Anyone else but the Astros would have beaten them yesterday.
George
July 30th, 2012
10:27 am
Jeff R
July 30th, 2012
10:25 am
Ok Jeff, sorry.
ncscoots
July 30th, 2012
10:28 am
Bullpen lingo, but shouldn’t that be “in front of” Kimbrel?
Probably so. Consider the post amended.
Steve from OH
July 30th, 2012
10:28 am
Great trade. And my Penguins are something like 15 million under the cap for 2012-2013 and are set to go with Chris Kunitz and Pascal Dupuis with Sidney Crosby again…
At least your top defensive pair isn’t Nicklas Kronwall and Brendan Smith/Ian White/Kyle Quincey. I think Smith will be a top defenseman in time, but not now. Yeesh.
Kenny Holland really struck out so far this summer. I do think he’s leery of the new CBA, which would make sense.
Richie
July 30th, 2012
10:28 am
It has been said that Gavin Floyd could be available as well. Thoughts on Floyd?
Jepster38
July 30th, 2012
10:29 am
“As to DOB having something personal against Beckett, I’ll let the man speak for himself, if he cares to. But I read DOB’s post as a straight on this-is-the-facts summary of how crummy Beckett is.”
Arrogant, not good in the clubhouse, both seem to be facts. But while some see those as being environmental issues, other see those facts and disqualifiers. I don’t.
There is a difference between being a single issue in an otherwise good clubhouse and being one of many issues in a cancerous clubhouse. I don’t think Beckett would be a problem in ATL. Sheffield was a decent citizen in ATL and there weren’t too many people complaining about him when he homered.
And to address someone else’s observation, I suppose Hanson lost a few MPH off his fastball because he is pitching in ATL? Nope, but I believe Beckett’s results are a result of a toxic environment and atmosphere he is either part of or created for himself in Boston.
For 7-8 million a year, I think he’s worth a gamble. Can’t be any worse than KK getting 8 mil a year to pitch in Gwinnett can it?
Again, how much the Red Sox eat of his salary depends on what ATL would send them in return. Heck ATL ate 10 mil of Lowe’s salary and got Chris Jones in return. Not exactly on everyone’s “can’t miss” roster.
Brian from SC
July 30th, 2012
10:31 am
More useless streak stuff:
The Braves’ .220 batting average in the last five games is the lowest batting average they’ve had in a win streak of five or more games since they hit just .216 in a 9-game win streak in August 1993.
Jeff R
July 30th, 2012
10:31 am
No worries, George.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 30th, 2012
10:31 am
Nothing too impressive about Floyd IMO. I’d rather go with Meds…
ncscoots
July 30th, 2012
10:31 am
Contenders to the end, despite the protest from one on here
I don’t know that I’ve ever said that they wouldn’t be in the race, only that I don’t see them as being quite as good as some here. The holes in their team are evident, if one wishes to look, just as are the Braves’ weaknesses.
TennesseePaul
July 30th, 2012
10:32 am
This year – his All Star return, he was hitting .319, .373, .440 on June 7 and today is hitting .272, .341, .352. Quite a drop-off.
Man, I haven’t paid much attention to him. I had to go look that up. Since June 7th, he has hit .206/.297/.225/.522 . Crazy. Over that same stretch Uggla has hit .121/.305/.189/.495.
Bruttal. So glad that isn’t the Braves middle infield right now.
David O'Brien
July 30th, 2012
10:32 am
Good clubhouses are great if you can have one, but good clubhouses don’t generally mean championships. Never have and probably never will. They don’t hurt, but they don’t help. IF you asked most fans if they would have their team sing Kumbaya or win a championship…most would take the championship. — Jepster38
Vast majority of players disagree with you and say a good clubhouse is important in baseball more than any sport, because of the 162-game season and the time these guys spend with each other (more time than they spend with their families, literally, from February through at least September). And with all due respect, GMs and managers don’t construct teams and make lineup decisions based on what fans (or media) want.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 30th, 201