3:02 pm July 28, 2012, by David O'Brien
July 28th, 20125:00 pm
Do you have a friend named Samantha? And do you know Murph?
July 28th, 20125:01 pm
Amber Girl,don’t feel bad, some of our other bloggers are not out on their own either.
July 28th, 20125:02 pm
Those Angels prospects didn’t look too great
July 28th, 20125:03 pm
Put Medlen in the rotation and trade for Wade Davis to take his spot in the pen. Done, let’s roll!
July 28th, 20125:04 pm
The Angels are already “overbudget” for the next year or 2….
Angels payroll was 154.5 million to start this season. The Braves and Angels are not even in the same paragraph when it comes to ability to spend, and they have been aggressively raising it. What is their budget exactly and how does one determine that it is over?
Hey we made a trade!!!!
Pirates acquired 1B-OF Christian Marrero from the Braves for INF Brian Friday.
Marrero has posted an underwhelming .248/.352/.392 batting line in 79 games this season in the minor leagues. The 25-year-old can no longer be considered a prospect.
Brian Friday ain’t all that great either… listed as a 2B (Uggla’s in trouble lol) .232/.324/.305/.638 line this year…. Batting average and OBP has declined for his last 6 straight years. Currently 26… playing for AAA
Angels are trying to extend Greinke. Greinke reportedly was interested in signing an extension with the Cards, Braves, or Angels. I wonder if he will sign on…
On a side note – Livan Hernandez came in and pitched a couple of innings last nite to help shut out the gNats – even though the Braves released him – still helping the team!!!
July 28th, 20125:05 pm
In case you missed it on Twitter feed at bottom of blog page, Kris Medlen is replacing Jurrjens in rotation Tuesday. Jurrjens goes to bullpen for time being. Only thing that could change it is if Braves trade for a starter in next couple of days. Otherwise, it’s Medlen.
SS was their #1 prospect I believe.
Also, more importantly, the Angels are good already. A top pitcher really pushes them over the top. That would not have happened for the Braves.
Danga sorry about typo..was funny.
Jeffrey d @ 4:50 have to agree both did a good job.
July 28th, 20125:06 pm
JasonInFL…”Love Meds, but we need a top of the rotation starter!!”
You just contradicted yourself.
July 28th, 20125:07 pm
“JJ in the pen” – that’ll make the hair on the back of your neck stand up.
I wonder what Medlen’s pitch count will be
True that…. surprised Delgado+ couldn’t “beat” it. At least I’d think that’s what FW would offer, considering he offered at least that for Dempster….
What is their budget exactly and how does one determine that it is over?
I remember reading when CJ and Albert came over that the Angels were going to be cash-strapped this year and next unless they could unload some contracts, (namely Vernon Wells). The signings were said to put them over budget.
LOL Brian Friday lol Yay
July 28th, 20125:08 pm
I have been asked a thousand times if I am Samantha. One more time. My Uncle knows Samantha and where she is. I am not Samantha for the last time. Since when is Samantha,only 13. I came on here to learn and have a laugh or two. Just because I am dumb Amber does not make me somebody I am not. So Mr hotatlanta if I have disrespected you in any way. I AM SORRY.
Amber where is your buddy reckingball?
July 28th, 20125:09 pm
Kris Medlen should have about 12 or 13 starts to finish out the season. I’m calling it, 9-2 with a 2.80 ERA.
July 28th, 20125:10 pm
JJ is being relegated to mop up duty. Way ahead maybe, way behind definately.
Is it really always about the money? Maybe Greinke turned down the $100 mil because he didn’t want to play in Milwaukee. Even if he takes 25% less to get closer to home… I’d love to see him sign with us this fall. for a reasonable price.
At this point, I think Medlen is our best option as a starter. That said, it will take some creative management to get through the rest of the season and (hopefully) post season and I think that’s where the Braves are most lacking. I was really hoping that FG would be worth a d@mn. I don’t think Liberty gets the blame here; there are too many other teams with lower payrolls that are competing. I think this is a management issue.
July 28th, 20125:11 pm
Kris Medlen should have about 12 or 13 starts to finish out the season. I’m calling it, 9-2 with a 2.80 ERA.
That would be awesome. I hope you’re right.
Gawd, I hope not! Wait for us Zack!!! We’ll be waiting for ya at year’s end
Yes, be he does have a low floor. All 3 guys have high ceilings, but low low floors. They could “bust”.
70-85…. just enough for him to pitch the whole game!!!!
Seriously, I think he goes just 5 innings, maybe 80 pitches max.
July 28th, 20125:12 pm
I trust Wren will make the right call regarding whether to trade or not. I just hope the bullpen does not wear down like last year.
Jurrjens struggles and he’s taken out of the rotation. Uggla struggles and we keep running him out there! Why? What’s good for the goose should be good for……Oh, nevermind! GO BRAVES!!!!
Surely the Braves don’t intend to leave JJ in the BP. That just seems to have disaster written all over it.
July 28th, 20125:13 pm
s it really always about the money? Maybe Greinke turned down the $100 mil because he didn’t want to play in Milwaukee.
This. Some people don’t make decisions entirely on money… Chipper didn’t, hopefully BMac won’t (hint hint). I don’t think Zack turned it down to get more money, I think he saw the mess out there.
Alaska Braves Fan
Call me Pollyanna, but I have a pretty good feeling about the direction of our younger arms. Minor and Delgado, especially, are displaying the inconsistencies of youth, but they are improving steadily. When they are on, they are excellent pitchers. I’m concerned about Hanson. He shouldn’t be particularly inconsistent at this point, but he is. Hudson is a bulldog, and a great asset to the team, but he is getting older and sometime relatively soon, his work will become less reliable. Sadly, JJ is a lost cause and cannot be counted on now or in the future. Nice man, but somehow he has lost it. Sheets is a magnificent bonus so far. One has to worry about his bionic arm and his age, but he looks to have a good couple of years left in him. Right this minute, he’s the best and most consistent pitcher we can run out there on any given day. Medlen needs a chance to start. We really don’t know how he would respond, but I’m optimistic that he would make a good third or fourth starter. With Beachy coming back late next year, and with Teheran and others in the minors, I think we’re good to go.
Since Frank Wren must work within quite a limited budget, and since the ace type starters are getting over $20 million per year on the free agent market, I’m thinking he would be wise to hold what he’s got unless he can find another Sheets-like surprise or some other real bargain. Of course, that probably would mean this year ends relatively early during the playoffs, but next year would start to look good.
For Chipper – for all of us – I would like to see us in the Series this year, but next year seems much more realistic.
Amber: I was not trying to disrespected you either and I was not aware you had been asked that before. Tell Samantha hello for us and that we miss her. You are welcome here anytime.
July 28th, 20125:14 pm
Interesting fact, the Braves have never been more than 11 games over .500 this year. Every time they get up to 10 or 11 games over, they’ve gone on a terrible losing streak. With the next 9 games against the Phils, firesale Marlins and Astros, this is the Braves chance to put themselves in a good position for a wild card or to chase down the Nats.
Amber tell Whiskey River hello!
July 28th, 20125:17 pm
I hear Frank Wren is looking at Jim Abbott for a return – he said he has a good arm left !!!
Geez DOB, your credibility takes a big hit with this column.
Hanging on to a bunch of questionable “maybes” for a bonafide front of the rotation major league starter — something the Braves lack more than anything (other than a competent field manager or a GM with a pulse & brain waves) — that’s a commitment to continued mediocrity.
Sadly, there seems to be about as much interest in winning in the Braves organization as there is in the Hawks (dis)organization.
Surely the Braves don’t intend to leave JJ in the BP. That just seems to have disaster written all over it.
Nah, he’ll be like KK out there… oh wait, you haven’t pitched in 2 weeks? Sorry…. Why not let Carlyle take this dude’s spot? At least you can blame it on his “age” and he’d be cheaper if he does stink it up…
July 28th, 20125:18 pm
Oops! I didn’t realize there is an actual Pollyanna on this blog. Please excuse my reference to the name.
ABF–wait to next year , right. Think I’ve heard that for 46 years.
Agreed. Ks and leaving runners all over the bases continually does not strike a nerve in the Braves front office nearly as much as giving up runs and taking losses on the mound.
Plus a pitchers poor performance can’t be justified by his high K ratio or whatever. They get on, they score, you are out.
Hitters can hit 215 and strike out 1 out of every 3 ABs and some will justify that by saying he walks a lot!!
Marlins’ slugger Stanton to start rehab assignment Wednesday, supposed to last 4-5 games. Means Braves will miss him again in upcoming series.
July 28th, 20125:19 pm
Vote NO to T-Splost on Tuesday
More info on Brian Friday, he’s had had injury issues…
He’s been overtaken by other shortstops in the system and is functioning as an organizational infielder in AAA. Injuries have been a problem for Friday in every season, some of them coming at times when he seemed to be elevating his game.
2007 An ankle injury hampered him some.
2008The Pirates jumped Friday to Lynchburg, where he had a solid season that was interrupted by back problems. He adapted quickly to the higher level and seemed to be breaking out with .319 average in May, but the back problems flared up at that point and he missed most of June and July. He posted only a .692 OPS in August, which may have been due to his back.
2009 Friday spent the season as the regular SS at Altoona. He started fast, hitting .500 in his first six games, but then went out for over a month with an inner ear infection.
2010 He missed a chunk out of the season’s middle part due to an ankle hurt in an infield collision. It seems likely that the injury affected him late in the year. Prior to it, he was hitting 277/352/439. After he returned he hit 233/342/308.
2011 With d’Arnaud, Ciriaco and later Mercer all at Indianapolis, Friday became a utility player, spending half his time at second and dividing the rest between short and third. He struggled at the plate. RHPs were the main problem, as he had a .588 OPS against them, compared to .883 against LHPs. He got hurt at the beginning of July and didn’t return until the last few days of the season, limiting him to 67 games.
July 28th, 20125:20 pm
JJ takes over Livan’s long relief role…
If Medlen actually gets the chance, I believe the Braves will be glad they gave it to him. He could be a future ace of the staff.
DOB hope we miss Johnson also.
July 28th, 20125:21 pm
DOB, you make an excellent case why a trade for Greinke would have been foolish. I earlier pooh-poohed the idea of going after Lester, but wasn’t aware of his home/away stats; maybe that would be a good option. I pray Wren will get us another RH bat, in case Uggla never comes around.
July 28th, 20125:22 pm
DOB, still think FW is working hard on a starter or has he moved onto bullpen help and RH bench bat? Stark reported as much yesterday, but I didn’t believe it until now.
Mr. Deal…I will vote No!
July 28th, 20125:23 pm
@afan Whiskey River is my Uncle. I do not know Samantha personally, but he does.
Sadly, JJ is a lost cause and cannot be counted on now or in the future. Nice man, but somehow he has lost it.
But he was too good last year for this to have happened. He’ll turn it around…..
Injuries. Happen. He got KO’d.
McCann is 17-for-53 (.321) in his past 15 games with eight homers, 19 RBIs, .373 OBP and whopping .792 slugging percentage.
That includes four homers and 11 RBIs in four games against Phillies during that stretch, and in six games against them this season he’s 9-for-26 (.346) with SIX HOMERS, 16 RBIs and a 1.038 SLUGGING PERCENTAGE – not OPS, but slugging percentage alone.
McCann has 15 RBIs in his past five games against the Phillies. He drove in 15 of the Braves’ 36 runs in those games, all wins.
July 28th, 20125:24 pm
If he was a future ace, he’d have been starting already….
.792 slugging. I like it.
We would all feel a lot better if Wren would explain his plans for next year. We know Chipper will be gone so 3B will be vacant. If they move Prado to 3B then LF will be vacant. And don’t tell me Francisco &/or Constanza are apt replacements. Then Bourn will likely leave. So now you have two positions to replace. I feel McCann will resign. Then there’s 2B with Uggla hitting like a AA hitter not ready for MLB pitching. How long can Braves wait on him ? Maybe Teheran,Delgado,Vizcaino,or Minor will step up next year. But right now Braves are facing a need at LF,CF,and 2B next year.
July 28th, 20125:25 pm
I loved Med when he started before his injury. He was very solid.
However, I would rather have a shields or volquez or dempster…if possible. Medlen has been an amazing bridge guy the last month or so.
Good article, DOB. GO BRAVES
Lets Trade Brian MacCann While He Has Some Value?
July 28th, 20125:26 pm
I hope everyone is happy now. I am trying to cry so I am going swimming and get rid of you nonsocial people.
Re: pitchers wanted
Wren has already made us known his plans…at least a couple of the ones you mentioned.
It is common knowledge that they do intend to play Prado at 3rd and will try to resign Bourn.
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July 28th, 20125:27 pm
I think that Lester would be a good option at this point. He probably needs a fresh start somewhere else. It will be interesting to see how he pitches tonight.
/hit the nail on the head in the begining middle and end of this article. The Tex trade will go down as one of the all time worst deals in pro sports remember Cowboys and Vikings Herschel Walker. Don’t mortgage the future. Finally a voice from the wilderness Medlin,Medlin,Medlin sometimes the answer is right in front of us all along.
July 28th, 20125:28 pm
July 28th, 20125:29 pm
DOB: Give the rest of the team some of whatever it is that McCann is drinking these days.
July 28th, 20125:30 pm
DOB: Why aren’t the Braves interested in Francisco Liriano? Too costly in terms of prospects? Just don’t like him?
July 28th, 20125:32 pm
Simmons got smaller cast during exam Fri. He hopes to be back in 2 weeks, but that’s optimistic. 3-4 weeks seems more likely.
McCann is drinking these days.
A Big Gulp of Mountain Dew? And none of that sissy low calorie diet stuff.
July 28th, 20125:33 pm
True Uggla’s bat has been pretty much of a not show for quite a while now, but the Braves are 14-8 in July. It doesn’t seem to be hurting the team that much.
Has anyone else noticed that everytime Amber show up, so does afan.
One and the same. haha.
Is a fan also one of your characters?
jc krapil has to be one also.
As an older Braves’ fan, I remember when the 1983 Braves made a terrible deal for pitcher Len Barker. They gave up a solid player in Brett Butler and some prospects for a dud pitcher. That trade is another cautionary tale as the 83 Braves lost the division race.
July 28th, 20125:34 pm
If the angels don’t address their awful bullpen they wont go far in the playoffs. The yanks lit up their pen a few weeks back.
July 28th, 20125:35 pm
McCann is drinking some of Chipper’s Geritol, before and during the games.
July 28th, 20125:36 pm
Because the Braves have a limited budget, they have to try to put together an effective team using draft choices and skillful use of the funds that are available. Any suggestion that Wren and Gonzalez do not want to win is absurd.
Finding a balance between cost and the desire to get the best possible player is not an easy task. Part of the problem, too, is that players are not widgets. They don’t perform in precisely the manner you expect. For example, Uggla’s work does not reflect his previous successes right now.
I’m pessimistic about our chances of resigning Bourn. He’s quite a player, and he’ll get a very good deal from someone. If the Braves stay below the $100 million line, as seems likely, Wren cannot commit $10 – $20 million each year to three or four players. He just runs out of money very quickly.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
Those stats you posted on BMac…Wow. I LOVE it!! Gonna be sad if his homer streak against the Fillies gets broken…But if it does, hopefully it won’t be with a stinkin’ pinch-hit appearance like with his hitting streak last weekend. And as long as he still gets some kind of a hit and we win, it wouldn’t be too hard to swallow…
July 28th, 20125:37 pm
Off to baseball practice, I’ll be back later.
Go Braves!!! Braves win tonight, 7-4… Uggla and Heyward go yard.
When Simmons Comes Back I hope We Keep Paul And DFA Wilson.
July 28th, 20125:38 pm
He didn’t play in 2 of those wins. He played in all the losses
TOBF Uggla and Heyward go yard.
BMAC, TOO!!! Or was that just a given…?
July 28th, 20125:39 pm
Great news on Simmons. Good to seeing him getting better. My new favorite Brave!
July 28th, 20125:40 pm
It’s true that the Braves haven’t done badly by playing through Uggla’s troubles. And, Uggla has contributed by getting on base through walks and by running the bases extremely well. Still, imagine where the Braves would be if Uggla were hitting even .250 and were hitting HR’s at his career pace. His struggles leave a big hole. Hopefully, he’ll snap out of it. Still, how do you value a player who has such big gaps in his productivity?
July 28th, 20125:41 pm
David O’Brien has to be the best team writer in mlb. Always informative. I believe the Bravos make the playoffs without giving away the farm. Wren is probably doing all he can with the teams limited funds. We need new ownership.
July 28th, 20125:44 pm
Everyone is so accustombed to the absurdity that is baseball player contracts that most fans look at it like monoply money… what’s the problem, can’t we buy Board Walk and Park Ave. but forget about Kentucky Ave., that is way too cheap.
July 28th, 20125:47 pm
Great insight on the new DOB blog today David, thanks!
July 28th, 20125:48 pm
Someone made a good point earlier. Wonder why JJ gets bumped yet Uggla and his 215 is allowable. I want to be clear I agree with bumping JJ, actually send him back down, but I’d also bump Uggla and move Prado to 2B. Then we’d have a best, or close to it, position player in the league but thats another topic.
Comparitively speaking how sorry would a pitchers ERA have to be to equal a hitter at 215? 8, 9, 12, 15?
Alaska Braves Fan – You make too much sense. I agree with your last two posts.
Unless the Braves figure out some way to get out of their lousy TV contract, they’ll be playing the modern equivalent of Moneyball (find underappreciated value and churn your roster constantly) for the next two decades. A new owner might not make any difference, unless that owner is willing to throw away tens (hundreds?) of millions of dollars to get out of the TV contract or pay large contracts out of his own pocket. That TV deal just kills the team long-term.
July 28th, 20125:51 pm
Yeah, maybe the Braves made a bad trade for Tex, but he was and still is, a very good baseball player–and I believe also a well-respected teammate.
@ABF…….Value was and is placed on Mr. Uggla by Mr. Wren, GM…per his allowance (budget) which doesn’t preclude the financial prowess of Liberty Media, Owner of the franchise. More so it is a collective package of compensation rendered for Uggly’s services of a period of time—this period of time includes this epic struggle/slump; i.e., his check comes like clockwork.
July 28th, 20125:52 pm
I agree that DOB is one of the very best. I’ve experienced some of the others, and many of them have hugely inflated heads and come across as pompous asses.
Dawg Whisperer: You make a very good point that we often forget: Salaries for professional athletes are obscenely huge. Many of them earn several times as much each year as the average person earns in a lifetime of hard work. That’s not right, but it is a result of the willingness of many of us to pay for tickets, paraphernalia, MLB on-line access, cable access, etc. I don’t know how to end it or change it, but it pains me.
July 28th, 20125:53 pm
Tumbledown: Thanks! I do appreciate that.
July 28th, 20125:58 pm
“for INF Brian Friday”
We don’t need Friday’s help .. we need Monday’s! Trade for Monday’s help!!!
July 28th, 20126:01 pm
Hey @McFann–Are you on, I want to ask you a question.
I laughed at someone who joked about picking up Rick Ankiel…then I looked at the Braves’ bench. He’d be an upgrade. He has more power than Hinske and can play good defense, steal a bag, pinch-run, and throw someone out.
Jasons Shrinking Waist
July 28th, 20126:02 pm
July 28th, 20126:03 pm
You know that Frank’s other nephew by another mother,Nate McClouth is now available to take over CF and leadoff duties in 2013 .
July 28th, 20126:04 pm
“Tex-like mistake”? The current situation is nothing like the Teixeira situation. Teixeira didn’t solve the biggest problem for that team (starting pitching); Greinke or Dempster or Johnson would solve the biggest problem for this team (also starting pitching). That team wasn’t in position to be a serious World Series contender with the addition of Teixeira; this team is in position to be a serious World Series contender if they add a legit ace.
There is nothing wrong with mortgaging the future if you are acquiring a guy who gives you a serious chance to win a title. For two reasons, Teixeira didn’t give that team a serious chance to win a title. That’s why that was a bad trade. The current situation is totally different.
July 28th, 20126:07 pm
Nice article DOB… It should have added some perspective for reasonable Braves fans… Stats aside I would have never given the beer mongers all of that. I think we should save some money and keep Bourne or we are screwed anyway in the future…. On another note It would be cool for someone to kick some stats on what juan is doing.. its the most under discussed positive so far this year, who did we give up for him ? why were the reds so eager to let him go ? It was good to see him get an at bat against a lefty last night and go the other way too. Go Braves !!!!
July 28th, 20126:08 pm
You know, if the Braves eek out the Wild Card, it won’t upset me at all, given how they’ve done on the road this year. Maybe that’s what they should be shooting for.
July 28th, 20126:09 pm
ABF – It seems like you do not think the Braves should try to trade for a front line starter, especially given your faith in the braves younger pitchers and the team’s limited budget. Nevertheless, is there anybody out there you would want the Braves to target before the deadline?
July 28th, 20126:10 pm
Yanks and Boston getting back to BB now……1st frame.
Yeah, tumbledown, but if memory serves, the Braves beat the Dodgers (with Butler) in ‘91. You know what they say about Karma.
July 28th, 20126:14 pm
It was not Butler’s fault he was traded in 1983. Also it took the Braves eight year from 83 to 91 to become a playoff contender.
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