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Freddie Freeman
July 28th, 2012
3:04 pm
First (Base)
Waiting 4 D Haters
July 28th, 2012
3:05 pm
Matthew 19:30
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 28th, 2012
3:05 pm
3rd… lemme read it now
nolie
July 28th, 2012
3:09 pm
thank you
David O'Brien
July 28th, 2012
3:10 pm
Braves lineup: Bourn cf, Prado lf, Heyward rf, Jones 3b, Freeman 1b, McCann c, Uggla 2b, Janish ss, Minor p
UNCBrave
July 28th, 2012
3:11 pm
DOB=spin cycle on GREINKE for Braves
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 28th, 2012
3:12 pm
Good read, DOB. Great job as always.
Chris from the Rock
July 28th, 2012
3:12 pm
Buddy Carlyle is the way to go.
Dawg '88
July 28th, 2012
3:12 pm
so the Angels are willing to do everything in their power to win the WS now and the Braves are not. Ok…thats now clear for me. Wait till next year or the year after or the year after that or maybe…never.
Now that encourages the fan base.
Jeff R
July 28th, 2012
3:13 pm
Thanks, DOB, for the comprehensive analysis of Greinke and Braves’ trade possibilities.
Jeff R
July 28th, 2012
3:16 pm
DOB=spin cycle on GREINKE for Braves
I think UNCBrave is taking lessons in idiocy from ACE (Bless your heart, ACE, wherever you are).
Memphis
July 28th, 2012
3:16 pm
The Angels also have one of the more wealthier owners in baseball.
Powderfinger
July 28th, 2012
3:16 pm
I still like the idea of moving Meds into the rotation. DOB, can you give us some names that might be available to replace him in the pen if that happened? Also, what’s the timetable for Petey’s return?
NORRIS
July 28th, 2012
3:17 pm
Does anyone actually really believe that the Nationals will shut down Strausburg and not let him pitch if they make the playoffs? Come on. The whole reason you play this game is to win. If they sit him then I got some swamp land for sale in Arizona.
nolie
July 28th, 2012
3:17 pm
it should have been clear a long time ago ‘88
Disgusted
July 28th, 2012
3:17 pm
And in the case of the Braves situation they should avoid a potential first Texiera deal.
Actually the Braves made two bad Tex trades, and I still say to this day that the second deal with the Angels for the junk thay got back was worse then the first. The picks comming back were a better gamble, never liked Kotchman/Marek from day one.
NORRIS
July 28th, 2012
3:17 pm
i heard moylan just went on the DL again. Is that true?
Pace
July 28th, 2012
3:19 pm
NORRIS – he’s on the DL for tendinitis (shoulder) – he said he could’ve pitched through it, expects to be out a week.
Metro Coach
July 28th, 2012
3:19 pm
Jim Bowden tweeted that it would be LA for Dempster, whether it would be Tuesday or in November. He’s of the opinion that the Braves are not an option. TIFWIW.
Justin
July 28th, 2012
3:19 pm
Trade For Wade Davis stick him in the pen and put Medlin in the Rotation
Jeff R
July 28th, 2012
3:20 pm
so the Angels are willing to do everything in their power to win the WS now and the Braves are not. Ok…thats now clear for me. Wait till next year or the year after or the year after that or maybe…never.
Hmm… let’s see. The Angels have a deep-pockets owner willing to pay out the ying-yang for talent. The Braves have a restricted budget. Might that be a difference maker?
And the “Win it right now and and damn the future” crowd are funny folk. Cause if the Braves did as they said and “won it right now,” surrendering key talent in the process, and then failed to scratch in subsequent seasons, you bet the very same folk would be hollering about that, too.
Ward
July 28th, 2012
3:23 pm
Hello everyone! Better mood…….Thanks for the article DOB. Good stuff.
Disgusted
July 28th, 2012
3:24 pm
BTW Jeff R –
Yes, that LM allows its baseball people to run the team is a good thing, but they are not giviing their baseball people enough of a payroll to compete for top tiered talent in today’s market.
To afford a legit number one or two pitcher and extend him in his prime you are going to pay in excess of 20 mil for five or six yrs. To maintain an All-Star level guy you will pay in the 15 mil plus range for maybe more yrs, and a superstar, that is in the 20 plus mil range.
You cannot do that with a 90 mil roll and fill out the roster with any kind of quality.
If they are going to stay with 1998’s payroll and that seems to be a fixed in stone range they are giving FW, its an inordinate amount of pressure on the system.
And its frustrating to see guys you develop an attachment to walking out while all you are seeing is a revolving door.
What is 90 mil gonna be in 2030????? Cause I don;t know if anything will change in the next 20 yrs.
In the meantime we can enjoy seeing Delgado and Minor work on getting better and as you said you have to tough it out with young pitchers.
These guys are so so much better than the Jo Jo Reyes and Charlie Mortons of the world.
From where we were at the end of 08, where Wren has taken them with these limited resources is great.
Jeff R
July 28th, 2012
3:24 pm
The Tex deal evidently made a lasting impression on Wren (who wasn’t responsible) and the front office. The Braves contribute mightily to Texas’ success by giving them core talent.
Good for Wren having the prudence not to unload a bushel of key prospects on a roll-of-the-dice trade for a supposed game-changer.
Ward
July 28th, 2012
3:24 pm
DOB – Scott Hairson was mentioned from the Mets last night in an article. Are the Braves going to get hm for the bench, or is that just a false rumor.
Nerdbucket Moylan
July 28th, 2012
3:25 pm
Gotta agree w DOB on this one. Not worth dealing Teheran + for Greinke or Delgado for Dempster. If we are going to make a move it really needs to be for a longer term solution. This team MIGHT make the wild card with 1 SP addition. That’s really a poorly calculated risk considering the current state of the team. Now, if we didn’t have so many weaknesses and 1 SP would help us win the division and we looked strong enough to make a WS push then I might consummate a deal for a short term solution ie greinke.
Mark
July 28th, 2012
3:26 pm
Thank goodness because an organization couldn’t survive after many of those bone-headed deals.
Disgusted
July 28th, 2012
3:27 pm
Hmm… let’s see. The Angels have a deep-pockets owner willing to pay out the ying-yang for talent. The Braves have a restricted budget. Might that be a difference maker?
Sure it is — But when you have the deep pocket owner you can replace prospects and they LAA have developed a great one in Mike Trouth and Jared Weaver is home grown.
On the other hand you can spend dumb and trade dumb — Like the Boston Dead Sox. Worst run big market team in baseball. And a current GM wh is in over his head and in total denial.
Juan
July 28th, 2012
3:27 pm
Ward…that was a false rumors, also look like the mets going to bench Bay and going to use Scott Hairston more
JasonInFL
July 28th, 2012
3:28 pm
What we got for Tex when we traded him is as bad as what we gave up. I mean, look that Milwaukee just got for Greinke. Look that the Mets got for Beltran last year. We got Casey Freaking Kotchman and Steve Marek. Are you frigging kidding me?
Mark
July 28th, 2012
3:28 pm
Last two times the Braves sat Uggla we won big not because of the replacement but it was still big wins. Just saying!
Disgusted
July 28th, 2012
3:28 pm
Remember that the first Tex deal was not Frank’s doing — it was Mr. Scheurholz.
JS also made a similar one in the JD Drew deal.
The org want through the transition of austerity and JS did not adjust at the end & JS as great as he was got out at the right time.
JasonInFL
July 28th, 2012
3:28 pm
DOB, think they would give up Teheran for Shields? Big Game James isn’t having the best of years.
RTS
July 28th, 2012
3:29 pm
The same idiots on here complaining we did not make the trade would be the same ones complaining if we made the trade and we dont win a WS and Greinke leaving at the end of the season………I wanted a front line starter too BUT not at the cost of what it would have cost the Braves. I would give Hanson 1 more start to prove something….or swap him out with Delgado. hanson is killing us….seems like he gets a pass for his poor performance(Delgado’s stats are better than his)
Jeff R
July 28th, 2012
3:30 pm
Yes, that LM [Liberty Media] allows its baseball people to run the team is a good thing, but they are not giviing their baseball people enough of a payroll to compete for top tiered talent in today’s market.
I don’t disagree, Disgusted, that the Braves need a bigger budget. But it’s not going to increase much until Liberty Media sells the Braves – and Liberty Media will do that, in my estimation, sooner rather than later.
Who buys the Braves is critical. Believe me, you don’t want a wealthy fool like Peter Angelos and his family owning the Braves. Money’s only good if spent wisely.
You want an owner (or owners) who are willing to smartly increase the budget but keep the baseball operations in the hands of capable execs.
JasonInFL
July 28th, 2012
3:30 pm
I would give up Teheran for Josh Johnson every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Teheran, Spruill, and a top position prospect not named Bethancourt. Is that in the ballpark?
Lawton
July 28th, 2012
3:30 pm
Braves are now a mid-market team. It is what it is. The emphasis shifts to player development and getting production from players during their first 6 seasons. This team isn’t a top of the division team right now because the pitchers developed (or acquired early in their careers) haven’t sustained themselves as front of the rotation pitchers. They would be Tommy Hanson and Jair Jurjjens specifically. Its’t not like they haven’t tried. It just hasn’t happened for them, and that’s baseball.
Ward
July 28th, 2012
3:30 pm
Still think Braves need an owner, not Liberty Media.
Disgusted
July 28th, 2012
3:32 pm
I hope Dumpster does go to L.A., anywhere but here.
He is one of my most hated guys in sports right now. Stand up & BOO him loud when he comes around here again.
He & Melky — Despise both of em.
JasonInFL
July 28th, 2012
3:32 pm
Not me RTS. I understand the Tex trade. Salty was blocked by McCann. At the time, Elvis was blocked by Yunel. The two we really gave up were Feliz and Harrison. Feliz was the wildcard in the trade at the time and we had depth in starting pitching prospects. Hindsight says the trade wasn’t good, but you have to take it in context too. It isn’t like we gave up 5 players who were going to contribute to the team right away. Salty still would not be playing for us. Elvis would have when Yunel wore out his welcome, but now we have Simmons. Harrison and Neftali are the ones that hurt…
Jeff R
July 28th, 2012
3:32 pm
On the other hand you can spend dumb and trade dumb — Like the Boston Dead Sox. Worst run big market team in baseball.
At least the Red Sox have a championship to show in recent years. The Orioles went from a premier franchise to bottom-feeders during the Angelos family’s tenure.
Bama Brave
July 28th, 2012
3:32 pm
I Feel Bad For Chipper Jones,
Lawton
July 28th, 2012
3:33 pm
The Braves don’t get the gate or the TV revenues to be a 100 to 120mil+ payroll team. I don’t think fans should expect ownership to operate in the red just to put a World Series contending team on the field.
Ward
July 28th, 2012
3:34 pm
Lets all do a Liberty Media bashing for the whole night campaign…….Just so they here us loud, and clear…..
Juan
July 28th, 2012
3:35 pm
Bama why you feel sorry for Chipper?….he’s hitting 300 and the season is not over yet.Two more months for Baseball.
Nerdbucket Moylan
July 28th, 2012
3:35 pm
Middle market teams and GM’s do not sign Kenshin Kawakami’s for $7m per year. They do not sign Dan Uggla for 5 years and $60m. They do not sign Drunk Lowe for 4 years $60m.
Wren does not spend wisely, does not value OBP, and does not understand the concept of selling high. We’ve got to fire Wren and get new owners.
Jeff R
July 28th, 2012
3:35 pm
Lets all do a Liberty Media bashing for the whole night campaign…….Just so they here us loud, and clear…..
I wouldn’t do too much bashing of Liberty Media. Sometimes, the devil you know is better than the one you don’t know.
Disgusted
July 28th, 2012
3:35 pm
Lawton — The Braves are evolving into a small market team given the wage scale that is cmming down the road the next very few yrs.
It sucks — We are not a small market or even a mid market city. The Braves do not draw a bad gate and we deserve better. We were a top two or three drawing team in the 90’s/
Hating LM is not going to force them out, but we can dislike them anyway. I liked it better in the days of Ted and want those days agein.
Wow
July 28th, 2012
3:36 pm
The future for the Braves isn’t looking so bright anymore. The “untouchables” have been anything but, and the Nationals have been unstoppable and they’re just getting starting, they’re going to be even better as the years go by.
PHILLY PHAN
July 28th, 2012
3:36 pm
batista!!!
Penpal
July 28th, 2012
3:37 pm
Ya know What ?? Sometimes you are damned if you do, and damned if you don’t !!
Disgusted
July 28th, 2012
3:37 pm
At least the Red Sox have a championship to show in recent years. The Orioles went from a premier franchise to bottom-feeders during the Angelos family’s tenure.
Yea Jeff, but they are in decline right now and they have $$$$$$$ they really cannot move and they are going to be mediocre to bad for a while. That is unacceptable for thse fans.
ChattTownBrian
July 28th, 2012
3:37 pm
I doubt they get Shields, just because he’s having an off year and it is obvious Wren is trying to go for right now. And the future too, but it sounds like Shields has some serious kinks in his armor that might need an offseason to work on. Just don’t see that happening.
Wow
July 28th, 2012
3:38 pm
“On the other hand you can spend dumb and trade dumb — Like the Boston Dead Sox. Worst run big market team in baseball.”
And how many more championships have the Braves won than the Red Sox in the last decade again?
Bama Brave
July 28th, 2012
3:38 pm
Because He Hinted That We Needed Another Pitcher And Thats Not Gonna Happen.
saltyweeks
July 28th, 2012
3:38 pm
The price teams want for these guys who will be FAs is crazy, considering they will only be in a few games. If folks keep mentioning the Tex deal they should! DOB is right, except I would be even more reluctant to trade for anyone without another year on their contract. If you put Medlen in then, frankly, we’ll probably end up the season within one or two games of where we would have anyway.
That Tex trade continues to haunt us. Let Medlen start, find a bench bat and let’s just play ball.
Disgusted
July 28th, 2012
3:38 pm
Lets all do a Liberty Media bashing for the whole night campaign…….Just so they here us loud, and clear…..
Ward — that beats a Wren or Fredi bashing. More accurate.
Mark
July 28th, 2012
3:39 pm
Not many top line starters are going to top out at 90. Everyone used to harp and harp about the radar gun being over-rated when we had Maddux and Glavine. Well, not many nibblers can hit spots like Glavine plus he could get it up there a little quicker than 90. As for maddux he never threw a ball the same speed to a batter and none of them were straight but he could drive nails he was so accurate. These 2 guys don’t count.
Top tier pitchers have velo. Everyhting starts off of the FB which is why Hanson is getting drilled, JJ is done, and Venters isn’t the same.
Jeff R
July 28th, 2012
3:40 pm
The future for the Braves isn’t looking so bright anymore.
I couldn’t disagree more. Wren has budget money loosening up this winter, so more play to improve the team. The younger pitchers are good but need time to mature and learn the major league game.
Position-wise, Freeman, Simmons, Prado, McCann, and Heyward are looking pretty solid. Uggla is streaky, though I think he’ll come close to hitting his norms this season and moving forward.
The Braves are a work-in-progress, in many respects. I think the team is moving in the right direction, overall.
Ward
July 28th, 2012
3:40 pm
Well, thought I would add my contribution now.
Disgusted
July 28th, 2012
3:40 pm
Wow — Have you seen what that team has done the last 3 yrs. Especially this yr.
Those championshisp were 5 and 8 yrs ago respectively. They have spent poorly and spent on guys who spend more time on the DL than on the field.
iTiSi
July 28th, 2012
3:42 pm
A little off topic, but still baseball. About fell out of my chair last night when Bud Selig said he was advocating some additional video replay starting next season. I thought surely he would go to his grave saying “NO” to that. He says he is working on the guidelines for replays on two additional items. One is “fair or foul ball drives down right and left field lines, and the other we are all familiar with from just the other night, the “is it a trap or a catch” in the outfield. Hopefull that will open the door to even more replays, like bad calls at 2B on steals which have hurt the Braves this year, and close calls at home plate.
Wow
July 28th, 2012
3:42 pm
They can keep putting off all they want, but sooner or later, the Braves are going to have to get a front-line starter. No one on the staff or the minors even comes close to resembling one.
Disgusted
July 28th, 2012
3:42 pm
With the price of free agents the way they are now the Braves will get outbid for the better talent available & we have one guy in Bourn who is likely to walk.
No way we pay him in the high teens of mil for 5 yrs. Some one else will pay though.
Disgusted
July 28th, 2012
3:43 pm
Wow — They will not spend the $$$$$$$$$ to get a frnt line SP.
MEB
July 28th, 2012
3:43 pm
As usual great stuff DOB!
GO BRAVES!!! (Sign Michael Bourn)
Jeff R
July 28th, 2012
3:43 pm
I’m not arguing that the Red Sox don’t have big problems.
Ward
July 28th, 2012
3:45 pm
All Braves fans should got to the ball park with Anti Liberty Media signs, and that would get their attension.
Jim Hertel
July 28th, 2012
3:45 pm
Good update David. I agree, Grenke was too much to give up and not a sure thing. There may not be any sure things out there. This is baseball, but our internal options are just as good. However, I may be alone, but I would not be adverse to including Tehran in a blockbuster trade. He looks like the second-coming of Bruce Chen to me.
Mark
July 28th, 2012
3:45 pm
Chipper is a great player and I’ve enjoyed watching him but the idea that the Braves somehow owe him and must trade away top prospects for a chance to just make the playoffs amazes me. He has been compensated very fairly for his great play and making stupid trades shouldn’t be extra compensation for a HOFer.
Ralph
July 28th, 2012
3:46 pm
DOB – I like your last option best, in fact it is the only option I like, I wouldn’t trade Delgado and Minor for all those other pitchers you mentioned. Please excuse me now I just saw todays line-up and I have to go to the bathroom and Puke, Uggla
NickGranite
July 28th, 2012
3:47 pm
We have high 3 and 4+ ERA guys already. If you can’t get a shutdown pitcher with a reasonably good shot at winning two playoff games every playoff series, it’s kind of pointless to waste top prospects. For what? To get snuffed out by McDonald at Pittsburgh in a one game wildcard playoff? The only two left as you mentioned are ” cough” Josh Johnson “cough” and King Felix and they seem unavailable so basically, we’re kind of stuck with what we got. That’s not terrible, some seasons are for seasoning prospects as you get better and this is a pretty good team except…I’m afraid the line-up might take a step back next year with Chipper and likely Bourn gone even while our young pitchers are getting better.
Jeff R
July 28th, 2012
3:47 pm
All Braves fans should got to the ball park with Anti Liberty Media signs, and that would get their attension.
Okay. You organize it, Ward.
ChattTownBrian
July 28th, 2012
3:47 pm
We might very well end up with a Kevin Corriea type. Don’t say ya’ll haven’t been warned. Wren’s head is probably spinning about now after missing out on Dempster and Greinke. His knee is a jerkin’ real hard, folks.
Bama Brave
July 28th, 2012
3:47 pm
I Will Be Shocked If Bourn Returns Next Year!
Ward
July 28th, 2012
3:48 pm
Anyways, good talking, and will talk later tonight……..Peace my friends, and “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
JoeFan
July 28th, 2012
3:49 pm
Insert Medlen into the rotation, find another decent bat and upgrade the bullpen if possible. Then in the offseason, where there is time and flexibility, restructure the team. I would much rather see the Braves competitive for the next 8-10 years than mortgaging the future for maybe a playoff spot now.
shawn
July 28th, 2012
3:49 pm
Thanks DOB, great stuff as always….
Jerry
July 28th, 2012
3:49 pm
Thanks DOB for the stat breakdown on Greinke. Something just didn’t sit right with me with that guy. Glad the Angels took care it for us.
old man
July 28th, 2012
3:50 pm
If I could pick between pot luck on a new owner, versus a market rate TV contract, I would take the latter. There is something not kosher about that deal. Why do we hear nothing about how it happened?
njbraves
July 28th, 2012
3:50 pm
I don’t like LM, but payroll is not a huge problem for this team. Cards don’t have a huge payroll, Giants didn’t at the time they won the WS either. TB’s payroll is much lower than Atlanta’s, and they’re a contender every year. I’d love more flexibility, but it’s not as big as so many think.
Pace
July 28th, 2012
3:53 pm
Getting a #1 SP for the stretch run would be great
Giving up 3 of our top 4 prospects – not so great
Making an all out run to give Chipper a WS in his final season would be a great “Feel Good” story
Mortgaging the future of the team – not the best move this team can make.
Disgusted
July 28th, 2012
3:53 pm
What we have in house is better than Kevin Corriera.
But I get what you are saying CTB.
Felix
July 28th, 2012
3:53 pm
I was disappointed that we didn’t get Greinke, but agree that we don’t want to mortgage our future for 10 starts. I was also hoping against hope that Fredi would sit Uggla today.
Does anyone in this wide, wide world of sports understand why Wren signed Batista? Batista must be old enough to be Julio Franco’s uncle.
ChattTownBrian
July 28th, 2012
3:53 pm
I can hear McCann spinning a Corriea trade right now – “he’s an innings eater and knows this league. Guy’s got awesome stuff when he’s on. He’s been around this game for a while now and he’s very underrated and we’re excited to have him on board”.
Graham
July 28th, 2012
3:54 pm
At this point I’d make a big offer for King Felix (Teheran + Delgado + 2 of Lipka/Ahmed/Cunningham/ Kubitza etc or even Salcedo if it would seal the deal) and get them to throw in League. Assuming that didn’t come to pass I feel like picking up Matt Belisle and/or Rafael Betancourt from Colorado for the pen and put Medlen back in the rotation
Ralph
July 28th, 2012
3:55 pm
The money we would have to pay a Greinke or J.Johnson would buy us an All Star 3rd baseman to replace Chipper or it would cover the cost of sitting Uggla on the bench where he belongs, actually he belongs somewhere else but I doubt that is possible.
Mark
July 28th, 2012
3:56 pm
Bama
Bourn is already gone. Too few leadoff guys out there that can defend and steal bases. No real spark plug kinda guys out there. He is the closest thing and will demand a Kings ransom. Much more than the Braves will or should pay. I say should because he Ks too often and he’ll bet a long, expensive deal. His production will begin to decline soon but he’ll be getting paid big for a long time. He’s 30 I believe and he’ll start losing a step soon.
Don’t get me wrong. I like him here for now but I believe whoever gets him will regret it down the line.
Disgusted
July 28th, 2012
3:57 pm
Old Man — We really need both. With the apprciation of franchise value the only way we can get new ownership is if that contract is bought out. LM will make plenty of $$$$$$$$$, how much would it take to buy it out, 100 mil, 150 mil????
With the TV deal the Braves are not an attractive investment for the most passionate baseball billionaire with the deepent pockets.
So we are stuck, And what is this going to be in late decade????? Are we going to be behind Pittsburgh and KC in a few yrs ???????? It could be.
BravesFanInNashville
July 28th, 2012
3:57 pm
I love the fact that the Braves haven’t made a deal yet. I think their best option based on price in prospects to land a pitcher is Kris Medlen. I don’t like the thought of signing a pitcher to $ 100 Million plus and that’s what it would take to have made a Grienke trade make sense. I think we stay the course and not jump at a big name right now. Medlen was 11-1 as a starter for the Braves before he got hurt. Maybe he’ll be a spark to the rotation and if Sheets can finish the year with no injuries we might be OK and will have held on to the most coveted commodity in the game which is pitching.
Let’s put the money we would have offered Grienke to better use and sign Micheal Bourne and put a difference maker on the field every day instead of every 5th day.
tulsabravo
July 28th, 2012
3:57 pm
Great call Dave on Sugar, but I would have gone with, “If I Can’t Change Your Mind.” “Copper Blue” is absolutely amazing.
Lawton
July 28th, 2012
3:59 pm
how about……….
Tommy Hanson plus something for James Shields?????
If adding a front of the rotation guy with some team control, I’d rather deal Tommy than Delgado, Minor or Teheran. Tommy will make something like $7.5M next season, Adding a guy that makes $9M to $12M on top of Tommy’s $7.5M will leave very little flexibility to pursue a CFer and/or resign Sheets.
bvillebaron
July 28th, 2012
3:59 pm
.Thanks for bringing some sanity to these trade discussions, Dave. Can you make sure Schultz reads it?
Davet
July 28th, 2012
3:59 pm
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Disgusted
July 28th, 2012
3:59 pm
Micheal Phelps deserves to be Booed. He is a BUMB.
Again, Kudos to the Women’s soccer team.
Mark
July 28th, 2012
3:59 pm
We won big the last two games Uggla sat. Maybe it wasn’t due to the replacements performance but they were still big wins.
I’m for a precautionary sitting from that beaning last week!!!! Prado to 2B and Constanza to left.
Jerry
July 28th, 2012
4:00 pm
How could anyone feel sorry for Chipper Jones? The man has been to the playoffs for more than a decade in his career and has been to 3 world series with one ring to show for it. When he’s not playing baseball, he sits at his ranch and rolls in his dough. Nope, Chipper Jones doesn’t need anyone feeling sorry for him. Damn sure wouldn’t give the farm away in an effort to get Chipper back to playoffs while foregoing years of having a competitive team in Atlanta. Dumb!
JasonInFL
July 28th, 2012
4:02 pm
That is a good point. We could put Meds in the rotation and get a solid 7th, 8th inning guy. I love Meds, but he is not the ace type pitcher we need to lead our rotation into the next couple of years. But, it isn’t a bad plan B.
bvillebaron
July 28th, 2012
4:02 pm
Lawton:
Shields isn’t a better pitcher than Hanson so why would you trade Hanson AND someone eles for him. Take a look at his numbers this yearand for his career.
JasonInFL
July 28th, 2012
4:04 pm
Lawton, not a bad idea, but I bet the Rays are thinking the same thing…they want young, controllable prospects and not someone who like Tommy.