3:22 pm July 26, 2012, by David O'Brien
July 26th, 20126:19 pm
Wish I was having as good a season as Chipper…sans the marital stuff.
July 26th, 20126:20 pm
So now I read on SI that Braves will end up with Greinke. How?? He’s turned down $100 million for 5 yr. Braves will be mortgaging a helluva lot on him. He’s right age…but I’m gunshy…we’ve been burnt too often…you take the time to list ‘em…some real stinking deals last 5 yrs or so. Uggla just happens to be most recent…although Lowe is gone we still paid him…
July 26th, 20126:22 pm
Tell him to have a chat with Uggla
July 26th, 20126:34 pm
So lets get Chipper to the playoffs….Sign GREINKE
2. Braves. The Braves like Greinke very much, and another positive, he is said to like them, as well, a big plus after their bad experience of being blown off by Ryan Dempster (who they expected to approve the deal to Atlanta). Greinke is said by one person close to him to actually love the idea of Atlanta long-term, as the Braves have been consistent winners (a big thing for him, though apparently not so much for Dempster) and it doesn’t hurt that they train in his hometown of Orlando. The Braves have a very nice crop of big-time pitching prospects, including Randall Delgado, who was all set to go to Chicago for Dempster.
Greinke WANTS to be a BRAVE….MAKE IT HAPPEN WREN!
July 26th, 20126:42 pm
Outstanding piece, DOB!
July 26th, 20126:45 pm
Any rumblings on who the Braves are targeting as the trade deadline approaches? Its looking like the Angels and White Sox are the most serious suitors for Greinke at this point in time.
Awesome article on Chipper and I am with the mass here when I say I hope Chipper becomes the hitting coach for this team sometime soon. He will be awesome to have in the dugout even when he is no longer a active player.
July 26th, 20126:48 pm
Yes, Chipper is having a gutsy year at the plate and in the field. But shouldnt DOB be spot-welded to Frank Wren for the scoop on what deals the Braves can and cannot make and the reasons why. Save the Chipper retrospections for September.
July 26th, 20126:49 pm
Could perhaps the great Henry Aaron have a talk with Uggla and all the Braves hitters for that matter?The Hammer was recently paid the ultimate compliment by Texas Ranger president Nolan Ryan, who knocked Josh Hamilton for giving away too many at-bats. Ryan singled out Aaron as one guy who never gave away an at-bat in during his long career, approaching each trip to the plate as a battle. There are a few guys on this team who could benefit from that type of mentality.
July 26th, 20126:54 pm
Dempster throws a tantram, cooler,and contents about dugout yesterday when mgr took him out of game. Another Zambrano!
Glad we didn’t get that nut case.
July 26th, 20126:59 pm
If y’all want to sniff my jock, meet me at Hooter’s, haw-haw
“Chuck Oliver IS an idiot. Mostly about college football though.Enter your comments here”
Well, then Matt Turnoff is an even bigger idiot. That radio show is painful.
July 26th, 20127:02 pm
Yes, Chipper is having a gutsy year at the plate and in the field. But shouldnt DOB be spot-welded to Frank Wren for the scoop on what deals the Braves can and cannot make and the reasons why — Screwball
Spot-welded to Frank Wren, huh? You been following the Braves for very long, Screwball?
July 26th, 20127:09 pm
DOB – In your opinion, who are we having to give up to get Greinke if it can be pulled off?? Milwaukee sounds like they are looking for SS help and SP… Delgado and Pastornicky??
July 26th, 20127:10 pm
Or, do you think a blockbuster is even remotely being considered with Hart being put in for the big bat, as well??
July 26th, 20127:11 pm
Or, do you think there is any possibility Wren would think about trying to get Hart with Greinke for another bat we need?? If so, what do you think that blockbuster would look like??
July 26th, 20127:17 pm
a fire truck
July 26th, 20127:23 pm
I am sorry DB spot welding will really hurt..buy come on take one for the team
July 26th, 20127:27 pm
Why can’t Chipper,Walker,& Fletcher help the mess named Uggla ?
July 26th, 20127:30 pm
Blockbuster deal would include Uggla ,Delgado ,Rev and Venters ,for Rickie Weeks ,Jon Axford ,Manny Parra and Grienke. Weeks and Uggla are both struggling at the plate change of scenery would do them both some good. This is only if you want a blockbuster trade .Otherwise ,Delgado and the Rev for Grienke.
July 26th, 20127:32 pm
If they can’t get rid of uggla, they should make him bunt every time that it could possibly work in the game situation. He sure isn’t any help swinging for the next county every time.
July 26th, 20127:35 pm
That WOULD be a blockbuster… But, who I’m talking about is only Greinke and Cory Hart… Thoughts??
July 26th, 20127:38 pm
Great article! I will miss seeing Larry Wayne Jones Jr. manning 3rd base…I’ve loved seeing his smile this year and knowing how much he’s treasuring every moment, going out on his terms. I just hope people appreciate how amazing he is and we get to see him play right here! They’ll never be another Chipper.
July 26th, 20127:41 pm
Delgado ,Rev and another minor league arm may do the trick for Grinke and Hart ,but I think the Brewers would rather move Weeks than Hart. Uggla and Weeks would be a good match ,both are 2b and both are former all-stars having horrible years at the plate.
July 26th, 20127:45 pm
Great article DOB!
As usual THANKS!
July 26th, 20127:48 pm
I think you’re right, but I’d rather hang onto Uggs and believe that with another big bat and the right move in the lineup he’d snap out… I like Hart – think about the outfield with Bourne, Heyward and Hart… That would be a pretty good upgrade….
July 26th, 20127:53 pm
Knock a homa…still waiting for Brooks Conrad, Glaus, McLouth to snap out of it??Sometimes it’s just “over”.
July 26th, 20127:54 pm
About trades that have already happened ,Very happy for Omar Infante one of my favorite former Braves ,he gets out of that grease fire in Miami and gets to go to a contender and play for a class manager Jim Leyland.
July 26th, 20127:55 pm
Quicherbichin: Would appreciate your input if you said anything worth consideration or reading!!! Try answering the question(s). I may be incorrect at times but at least I give my reasoning. It’s easy to say someone is wrong but much more difficult to justify what we say. At 80 years of age, I have been around the block a few times and probably passed you quite often. Be a good fan but be realistic!!!
July 26th, 20127:57 pm
boston… no, I just don’t think we give away Uggla when he’s still an impact in other areas for the team and clubhouse, and has show an ability to snap out of it as you say… I don’t think all of a sudden, he’s just “over”…
July 26th, 20127:58 pm
One player, does Not a Team make, never has and never will. All these “Fantasy Baseball” chants are amusing, turning suddenly into another dose of Reality in September… all this makes for much sentiment which all sounds nice on the surface, unfortunately it has no roots.
You’re 80 years old and know how to work a computer? You’ve got my respect.
July 26th, 20128:00 pm
I like the Weeks for Uggla trade. It might do both good with a change of scenery. What about Delgado,Pastornicky,and Uggla for Grienke & Weeks ?
“Chief”, GLAD to see Someone actually displays some Samity, instead of all this emotional nonsense.
July 26th, 20128:05 pm
Chipper, wish you could play at this level another five years. The Braves Era of Old is coming to an end. I pray he stays healthy the rest of the way, because this is called going out with dignity and on top.
July 26th, 20128:10 pm
I read where the Nats want Grienke too. If they get him theyd be unstoppable. I’m watching ESPN. I’m already tired of hearing about Peyton Manning as a Bronco in July…
July 26th, 20128:12 pm
I like the Uggla and Delgado for Greinke and Weeks idea. Send Pastornicki somewhere for a prospect or something. When is Andrelton coming back. Seems like a year. lol
why trade for King Felix have more sense than Greinke´s deal
July 26th, 20128:14 pm
well i have some points about:
1.- Greinke pretends hit the free agency after this season so it´s not sure he will sign a extension with Atlanta..by the way Greinke idea about contract is like 5 years and 90-100 mdd i guess
2.-He have an anxiety problems , that is not good for a playoff team and obviously nothing good for give him an extension
Now points about Felix Hernandez:
1.- Maybe the same cost like Greinke with the big difference Felix is under control 2013 and 2014 earning 19.5 mdd and 20 mdd,,,this season the remaining salary by Felix is like 6 mdd
2.-He dont have anxiety problems, he is a power pitching , a competitor
3.- He is only 26 years old
4.- He will be improve his numbers with a better offensive than Seattle
2012 Felix numbers. GS 21 9 wins 5 loses 2.80 ERA . 147 K only 39 BB WHIP 1.15 0.6 HR/9 148 IP
2012 Greinke numbers: GS 21 9 wins 3 loses 3.44 ERA 122 K 28 BB WHIP 1.20 0.5 HR/9 123 IP
PROBABLE PACKAGE FOR GREINKE: Teheran, Pastornicky and maybe other like Terdoslavich
PROBABLE PACKAGE FOR FELIX: Teheran or Delgado, Spruill , Gearrin or Varvaro, and one batter (Pastornicky, Terdoslavich or Gettis (Gattis) hehe)
the key here is you have the security you will have Felix for the next 2 seasons
July 26th, 20128:15 pm
Brandon – thanks… Just don’t see getting rid of Uggla at this stage… He’s been through this before and should be fine… If not, there’s time to move him later….
July 26th, 20128:18 pm
I agree with Busch Leaguer & Neekrow, Uggla needs to go.
July 26th, 20128:24 pm
Let us see whose is jumping o a 12mil..2.15 batting average contract..come on ugg..still hoping
July 26th, 20128:25 pm
Mr.Uggla could probably crush many of our heads like a grape,but I still think he needs to sit or take a vacation for a week. Maybe the Braves could bring in a Hall of Fame hitter and consult him. Someone who would tell him the truth. Hank Aaron maybe???
July 26th, 20128:27 pm
Trouble with acquiring King Felix is that you would have to overwhelm Seattle with an offer that would more than likely include Freeman.Brewers are going to trade Greinke somewhere ,think Milwaukee is leaking other teams interest to drive up price for Greinke .
July 26th, 20128:32 pm
Trouble with Uggla is we have all been through this before and I don’t want to go through it again.
Uggla’s cute but not a very good hitter.
July 26th, 20128:34 pm
Yes, I have, as a matter of fact. By spot-welded, I mean sticking close to. Does Frank Wren live in a secret undisclosed location? I mean staying current on and reporting on, even dismissing, rumors. I would rather know what the Rangers/Angels/W Sox et al might have to lure Greinke vs. what the Braves have packaged? Why do I have to read that elsewhere? Instead, we get another piece about good ol’ Chipper (whom I respect). Give me some news, man.
July 26th, 20128:36 pm
Re: Uggla. Yes, in fact, sometimes…just like “THAT!” it’s over! In fact, & sadly, that is usually the case, in most endeavors requiring a skill set.
July 26th, 20128:38 pm
Brewers are sad ,Nats 4 Brew Crew 0 top of 2nd.
July 26th, 20128:40 pm
DOB, seems like on an off day like today your choices on the boards all lead you to crap city. You can choose to not write anything, in which case, people on this board whine that you aren’t doing your job. You can speculate who the Braves might trade for, but then you only postpone the whining until later, when the trade doesn’t happen. You can get on the phone with Braves officials and beg for a scoop, knowing full well that the Braves never release any information about anybody they might be targeting. I try to think of a scenario in which whining won’t come your way, but even if the Braves win the Series, I assume people will whine that they will never repeat.
July 26th, 20128:42 pm
Here is another thought about SP ,how about James Shields from the Rays .Would have control through 2014. He has playoff experience and is about same age as Greinke.Crap, Tampa needs bats not arms. Could include Uggla and a lot of $$$$ .
July 26th, 20128:43 pm
Do the Braves have any hitting prospects ,ready to be moved for a major league SP?
July 26th, 20128:52 pm
Blashemy from the uneducated is rampant on here.
July 26th, 20128:55 pm
screwball go to MLB.com its all listed. Wren don’t give out info on trades to no-body. DOB is working 20 hours out of 24 and does a damn good job. Show some respect.
July 26th, 20128:59 pm
Rays don’t want Uggla they have $$$ problems.. that why they trading Shields.
The three most likely for Zach would be Delgado, Graham & Aprill. I too would love to see Hart in deal.
July 26th, 20129:00 pm
sorry that Spruill sp.
July 26th, 20129:02 pm
If Kimbrel got Uggla traded would he get a save ?
what about that? PITTSBURGH PIRATE Starling Marte knocked a lead off 1st pitch 1st carrer HR in his first AB… obviously vs Astros in Minute Maid Park…still counts
July 26th, 20129:10 pm
No update on potential trade DOB ?
July 26th, 20129:23 pm
If Chipper had done steroids he could have put up some of the best numbers in the history of the game.
Now my poop is white
July 26th, 20129:33 pm
Does anyone know how much an adult human arm weighs?
July 26th, 20129:36 pm
I sure hope the season ends with a Chipper moment in the World Series. Wouldn’t that be cool.
July 26th, 20129:51 pm
Let take Chipper out with a bang and get a championship.
Go get Josh Johnson.
July 26th, 20129:54 pm
World Series Babby
July 26th, 201210:12 pm
The Battle Axe t-shirts. HUGE marketing opportunity there. They better design some for next year to sell with Chipper’s career statistics once this season is complete.
Seriously, that would make a sweet t-shirt.
July 26th, 201210:17 pm
What if the Braves could trade Uggla for B J Upton, and move Prado 2B.
July 26th, 201210:19 pm
1. BOURN CF
2. UPTON LF
3. PRADO 3B
4. HEYWARD RF
5. FREEMAN 1B
6. MCANN CATCHER
7. CHIPPER 3B
8. SIMMONS SS
keeping it real
July 26th, 201210:27 pm
To change the topic. Hanson has turned into a mediocre major league pitcher. When he first came up, he looked like a top of the rotation starter. Since then he has lost 3-5 mph on his fastball and rarely has command. He is Jurrjens in waiting.
July 26th, 201210:39 pm
DOB – In your opinion, who are we having to give up to get Greinke if it can be pulled off?? Milwaukee sounds like they are looking for SS help and SP… Delgado and Pastornicky?? — Chief Knock-A-Homa
I think it’ll take more than that. Delgado and a strong prospect, or perhaps Teheran (though I don’t rate him above Delgado, most others do) and Pastornicky, something like that.
July 26th, 201211:11 pm
The Dodgers have said no to the Cubs regarding the Dempster deal and have said they want Garza. Ha! I guess Dempster will spend the rest of the season pitching for the miserable Cubs and throwing water coolers around. I sure hope Wren has closed the door to Dempster and is focused on Greinke.
July 26th, 201211:20 pm
Oh yeah, Dave you are doing a great job keeping us up to date on the Braves and ignore the idiots. Your job is to cover the Braves which means you have to spend a lot of time with the players, coaches/G.M.;i.e., you have to establish rapport with them and there needs to be some level of trust. Otherwise they won’t talk to you and you can’t do your job. Yet the idiots expect you to play some kind of Mike Wallace 60 minutes adversarial role–with a bunch of gotcha questions/comments. Oh well, what can one say? Just ignore them.
July 26th, 201211:26 pm
“Yes, Chipper is having a gutsy year at the plate and in the field. But shouldnt DOB be spot-welded to Frank Wren for the scoop on what deals the Braves can and cannot make and the reasons why — Screwball
Spot-welded to Frank Wren, huh? You been following the Braves for very long, Screwball?”
I Think you hurt that guys feelings Dave
Rotunda Shaquonda Obama
July 27th, 201212:11 am
Retire now Larry.
July 27th, 20121:35 am
Chipper will be missed. Good thing GM’s don’t consult blogs for advice. If the Braves did, Chipper would have been gone long ago.
Gene Stallings once said, “if you listen to the fans, you’ll soon be sitting with them.”
NO MORE FREDI
Will make an amazing hitting coach but never a manager. His leadership qualities are one of the things I dislike about him. He doesn’t have that Jeter team leader thing going for him.
July 27th, 20123:47 am
And the blind man led the way for those who would not see!!!
July 27th, 20126:55 am
The deal for greinke will be delgado, pastornicky and teheran….. with an extension signed to it!
July 27th, 20127:41 am
Chipper bashers….I bet he would be willing to meet any of you in the tunnel to discuss your vile; crude; and abusive comments regarding him personally. I would like to be there to watch.
July 27th, 20128:04 am
Good morning DOB and everyone..God Bless USA..have a great day.
July 27th, 20128:34 am
Uggla seems to me to be trying to hit a home run every time up. Stop swinging so hard and swing until control a bit more
typo, under control.
July 27th, 20128:41 am
@skeezix, DOB keeps us aware of what? Why would anyone take uggla at this point. In any case, he needs to move on for the Braves sake and his own. Clearly he is in a slump, even if he has a decent #’s last 2 months,his numbers for the SEASON are unacceptable for the payout. Ihope we don’t rent Dempster, agree with Skeezix,let him stew in the cellar
July 27th, 20128:42 am
Uggla is not willing to be coached on hitting, much like a former Brave now with KC
BattleAxe for President
July 27th, 20128:50 am
Uggla will start hitting soon and if he clicks on all cylinders like he did after last seasons slump ended, I think the Braves have a better than good shot at the playoffs. I doubt we can count on a Washington collapse so they just need to get their mind set to get there any way possible.
July 27th, 20129:31 am
Good morming Y,all Miss ignorramus is here. Hopefully I will get more education and laughs from y’all
July 27th, 20129:36 am
How much better is Hanson than Delgado?
Which one has the higher trade value?
July 27th, 201210:03 am
I wanna be the hitting coach too!!!
July 27th, 201210:54 am
Chipper’s a man! He’s 40!!!!!
July 27th, 201211:38 am
Ah yes the great poster boy from Hooters. Want my son to grow up just like him. NO.
July 27th, 201212:54 pm
@Columbus… It would be nice also if this article shuts some of the morons up who are always hatin on Chipper…”
Amen, brother. Although there does seem to be a little less hatin this year than the last couple. Some fans just don’t realize this is a golden opportunity this year to see a HOFer live and in action…now, not on film. Haters need only observe how every away team has honored him this year…and opposing fans giving him standing ovations. That really says a lot. Not to mention his stats this year.
@Fats…Maybe the Braves could bring in a Hall of Fame hitter and consult him. Someone who would tell him the truth. Hank Aaron maybe???…”
Good lord son, did you not just read the article on which you’re commenting?
Uggs appears to not be listening to either the coaches nor Chipper. But, maybe it’s also like Chipper says, “…400 people advising him..and he listens to all of em…” I wonder if that was the case with A. Jones? He sure seemed hard-headed. I thought the same about J.Francisco for a while; until lately when he started hitting. And, ya know, Freeman and B Mac weren’t so hot for a while. Hopefully, Uggs’ll come out of it. I’m not ready to give up on him quite yet. Remember why we got him in the first place? Far as that goes, why no hate on Janish? He might be a defensive whiz, but good lord, he just recently raised his average to .184.
“…replace Henske with Chipper…” At first blush, I thought that was a good idea. But Henske also plays OF. No way Chipper could play OF. Otherwise, I agree he could come off the bench and excel. Hopefully, Henske will come around too…and be the bench guy he’s been historically.
July 27th, 20121:46 pm
There’s no doubt he can still hit. Heck, I’d bet he’ll be able to hit when he’s 60.
Bob Horner's Blonde Mullet
July 27th, 20122:14 pm
Good article DOB. Chipper’s having a nice Swan Song – hope he keeps it up. Sure wish we would’ve given him multiple off days toward the end of the Bobby Cox era… probably would’ve gotten the same number of games out of him, with better numbers and less trips to the DL.
July 27th, 20122:15 pm
If we just signed Batista who the Mets cut, Frank needs his head examined. Make Chipper the manager next year and bring in new GM like Billy Beane.
July 27th, 20122:27 pm
Roy U = Correct Again !!!
paul in richmond
July 27th, 20123:19 pm
I agree with Roy. Teams and groups have personalities. Some believe in themselves. Others expect to win. Others see themselves as in over their heads. etc etc. Those who come to the Braves fired up and gutsy cannot imbue that personality onto a team that is playing part time and always fretting about resting or some injury. Further, people are shuffled in and out like cogs (except for a few revered players) and expected to perform as if they were part of something larger.
A team has to think, act and play as a team and I don’t believe you can do that with two or three “leaders” in the group.
As to hitting coaches – you must be kidding. The braves get where they get on pitching. If they could hit they would be top of the division all the time. They can’t hit. They wait for the big bop and that attitude wrecks their hitters (including uggla)
July 27th, 20125:33 pm
That Walker and Fletcher, man, what a great hitting coach that guy is.
July 27th, 20126:57 pm
“Chipper bashers….I bet he would be willing to meet any of you in the tunnel to discuss yourvile; crude; and abusive comments regarding him personally. I would like to be there to watch.”
–you got that right…with all the dough I make, I could hire someone who’s actually tough to whoop some ass, haw-haw
July 27th, 20129:40 pm
I have been saying for years Chip should take a break then come back as the Braves hitting coach. I think he would be one of the best ever.However for the Braves only cuz I cant cheer for any one else. Just thinkhow awesome that would be ,not to mention unheard of ,drafted by the team you retire with in your 60’s. Chip is the bat swingin man!
July 28th, 20128:12 am
If all the players don’t hit .300 Chipper will get bashed by many of you, as you have with Fredi, T.P., Walker, et al. If one or two are batting .200, look out Chipper; it’ll be all your fault and you’ll need to be shipped off.
July 28th, 201210:18 am
Make Chipper the player/manager now!
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