Braves roll 7-1 despite Hanson’s ugly outing (7 BB, 7 SB)

MIAMI – After more than an hour of reflection, Braves pitcher Tommy Hanson was still at a loss for words to explain how one of his most erratic performances ended in perhaps the most improbable win of his career.

Hanson allowed a career-high seven walks and seven stolen bases in five innings, but gave up just one run in a 7-1 win Wednesday afternoon at Marlins Park.

“Seven walks and seven stolen bases — to go out and pitch five innings and only give up one run, I have no idea how I did that,” Hanson said. “I don’t even know if that’s ever happened.”

It’s happened, but not in nearly a century. The Marlins were the first team since the 1914 St. Louis Browns to collect at least seven bases in a game and score just once, according to the Elias Sports Bureau.

Juan Francisco went 3-for-4 with a mammoth homer and three RBIs, and Michael Bourn and Jason Heyward also homered for the Braves, who won the series 2-1 to finish 4-3 on a road trip that started with a series split at Washington.

The Marlins went 1-for-12 with runners in scoring position and scored only one run in the first three innings despite getting three doubles, four stolen bases and four walks.

In five innings we steal seven bases walk like seven times, three doubles and we only score once. You think about it and you check your head how that can happen.”

“For the first five innings we felt like we could score any time, any moment, and we didn’t,” Marlins manager Ozzie Guillen said. “I’ve never seen that before. That’s amazing.”

Francisco pulled a two-run homer an estimated 435 feet down the right-field line to put the Braves ahead 3-1 in the fourth inning, and Bourn added a two-run homer in the fifth to push the lead to 5-1 for Hanson.

“It was really weird,” said Hanson (11-4), who had seven strikeouts and allowed three hits while picking up his eighth win in 12 road starts, tied for the major league lead. “Definitely not ideal, but we got the win. That’s what counts.”

Heyward hit an opposite-field leadoff homer in the eighth inning, his 15th of the season. That’s one more than he hit last season and three below his rookie total in 2010. Heyward also doubled and scored the tying run in the fourth.

The seven stolen bases were the most by a major league team this season, and all came in Hanson’s five innings as the Marlins exploited his slow delivery. Hanson picked off Jose Reyes trying to steal third base in the third inning, the only Marlins base stealer who was caught all afternoon.

“I think if we were in Vegas it would have been a nice line — seven walks, seven stolen bases, seven strikeouts,” Braves manager Fredi Gonzalez said. “That’s a good line in the slot machines, but it’s not something we want to do every fifth day. He got his 11th win not being real sharp….

“They’ve got some guys that can run. That’s the way [Hanson] has been forever. We try to speed him up every once in a while. It concerns me a little bit, but I go back to what my people from SABR [Society for American Baseball Research] say, that stolen bases do not equal runs, and today it came true. But it’s not really a good feeling when guys are running all over the basepaths.”

As if to underscore how ragged Hanson’s outing had been, Kris Medlen followed with three near-perfect innings, allowing just one walk with five strikeouts in 46 pitches.

“You get a lead like that, you just want to keep it going,” Medlen said. “You get a couple of scoreless innings out of the bullpen, why not get another one? We had a lead so I could just execute my pitches and pound the zone.”

It was such an impressive performance that Gonzalez said Medlen has once again thrust himself into consideration for a spot in the starting rotation if the Braves fail to acquire another starter before Tuesday’s now-waiver trade deadline.

The Braves pushed back struggling No. 5 starter Jair Jurrjens’ next start from Friday to Tuesday because of an off day in the schedule Thursday, and by then they could have a new starter to take that spot or go with Medlen.

Gonzalez and pitching coach Roger McDowell considered letting Medlen pitch the ninth inning, but decided against it because he also pitched an inning in Monday’s series opener.

“So we didn’t want to take him further than that,” Gonzalez said. “But [starting] is an option going forward. It all depends on how we come through the couple of games before that turn comes. Because he’s been terrific bridging that gap in the bullpen, getting us to [relievers Eric] O’Flaherty and [Craig] Kimbrel. But it’s an option, and we’re weighing it and thinking about it. We’ll see what happens the next two or three days.”

Medlen was sent to Triple-A on May 29 to build arm strength – get “stretched out” – for a possible move from the bullpen to the rotation. But two weeks later the Braves brought him back and opted to keep him in the bullpen. Jurrjens was brought up from Triple-A and re-inserted in the rotation, where he had three encouraging starts before things went awry in his past two.

“I just want to keep doing what they ask me to do, like I’ve done my entire career,” said Medlen, smiling and trying to avoid more discussions about the rotation possibility unless it actually happens. “We’re winning, so it feels good.”

But if he’s asked to start, how many innings could he pitch now?

“When I was down there [at Triple-A] I got up to 96 [pitches],” he said. “I haven’t done that in a while. It would probably take me a few starts if they felt like doing that. It hasn’t been brought up and I’m not really worried about it. I just want to keep bridging the bullpen, from the starters to the late-inning guys.”

163 comments Add your comment

Art Vandelay

July 25th, 2012
6:45 pm

What a bizarre win today. They all count the same, so I’ll take it. But Tommy Hanson is an absolute mess right now. His ERA should realistically be above 5.00 by now.

PaulG

July 25th, 2012
6:47 pm

No doubt some of the fire fredi managerial wits on this blog will claim if they were at the helm the score would have been 14-1

OrlandoBraveFan

July 25th, 2012
6:51 pm

How about get some good middle relief pitching or some good arms for the pen and put Medlen in the starting rotation?

Grandma Giffin

July 25th, 2012
6:55 pm

5 IP, 7 BB, 7 SB, 1 Earned Run

That doesn’t even look real.

Radio guys said that only one other pitcher in history had put up similar numbers in a game. At that point, Hanson was around 5bb and 5sb, give or take. That man? Randy Johnson.

Usually, I would say that is terrific company…

Mike from the coast

July 25th, 2012
6:58 pm

I am tired of seeing a 100 blogs a day about starting Medlen. His value as a middle reliever has seen him be a savior for some of our wins. That being said, I am about to get on the bandwagon. Watching him sail through three innings today tells me he’s earned it, the team needs it, and please don’t make us watch JJ start again. He needs to go back to AAA and work some more. I wouldn’t mind seeing Delgado start (over JJ) or Medlen start and try Delgado in the pen.

space monkey

July 25th, 2012
6:59 pm

The strange thing about this one is that Hanson had the best live fastball he’s had all year. 92, if the gun is to be believed with lots of movement. He was missing bats. He also missed the strike zone. But he threw well when he needed to. I think this outing shows promise. Just need to work on command.

TN Jeff

July 25th, 2012
7:09 pm

Hanson is a bullpen killer as he only goes 6 innings tops every game. The guy just doesn’t seem to have the fire and or desire to be a dominant pitcher. I suspect there will be a major 2nd half swoon in his future. The Braves really need to get another quality starting pitcher to go with Hudson and now Sheets.

"Chef" Tim Dix

July 25th, 2012
7:19 pm

Let Medlen start and call it a trade.

Amber Girl

July 25th, 2012
7:19 pm

I missed the game. Did Mr Hanson win?

John w

July 25th, 2012
7:20 pm

Hanson is not far from being as bad as JJ. He’s real lucky to have 11 wins with that ERA of his. Please don’t trade Delgado for anyone but a good # 2 or 3 starter. Looking at Delgado’s velocity from innings one to four (dropping from 94-95 to 90-92) I think he would be outstanding in the bullpen. Move Medlin to the #4 starter role and Hanson to #5 and finish out the year! Start looking for a right handed bat!

dawg4u

July 25th, 2012
7:27 pm

Bravos better be ready for the Phillies because that team is starting to rake just like the last few years. They have won four in a row with the last three in their last or next to last at bat I believe. They have a history of turning it on in August and September the last few years (as we well know) so just saying don’t just look at the standings and feel like it’s a given to win two of three. Chipper is right in that we definitely need another starter to compete with the Nats. They could have the best record in the majors if they keep winning at the current rate and they show no signs of slowing down.

Buddy Landel

July 25th, 2012
7:28 pm

Maybe if we moved Medlen to the rotation, some of our fans would learn to spell his name.

John w

July 25th, 2012
7:35 pm

Sorry about the spelling Buddie!!

RunninWithTheDawgs

July 25th, 2012
7:37 pm

One run, three hits, worked 5 innings. Regardless of how many he walked they didn’t cross the plate so he wasn’t walking in runs. Hanson’s winning games and that’s what counts.

VinceVanGo

July 25th, 2012
7:39 pm

Forget Dempster, promote Medlen, demote J.J. A rotation of Hudson, Sheets, Hanson, Minor & Medlen is the best the Braves can do without making a trade. And that starting 5 won’t keep the Braves out of the playoffs, the hitting(or lack there off) is what will nix the post season. Put Delgado in Medlen’s place and start him if someone else falters. But the Braves situational hitting better improve if they hope to make it. I don’t know what Chipper’s problem is but he preaches to the team about doing things the right way and then continues to swing at too many first pitches in the wrong situations. Sometimes it almost appears he swings at the first pitch because he is in a hurry to get back into the dugout. I wish Chipper would lead by example, his mouth sure ain’t gettin’ it done.

aj

July 25th, 2012
7:41 pm

Seven steals!!!! Can’t steal if you don’t get on base.
Far too many pitches for 5 innings.
Looking forward to the Phillies’ series with Ben Sheets
throwing the opener. Two very big series for Philadelphia
with the Braves and Nats. If they sweep both series, look
out NL east. Still concerned about our lead-off hitter and
those K’s. He needs to make better contact.
Hope a deal or two can be made before the deadline.
Definitely need at least one starting pitcher.

64 year Braves fan

July 25th, 2012
7:42 pm

SABR is full of s–t. Stolen bases do equate to runs scored. Trade Hanson to Boston for Cody Ross.

terry

July 25th, 2012
7:54 pm

cody ross has already turned down a offer to the braves last year, so we don’t need guys who really don’t wanna be here, get a package deal for grenke and hart for a combination of prado and a prospect or two, hart is signed through 2013 and grenke prefers atlanta

1991 braves

July 25th, 2012
8:00 pm

Hanson is killing the braves.His lack of quality starts is putting a tremendous strain on the bullpen. This guy has lost whatever he had last year or should i say the year before. He is so inconsistent, and his delivery is so slow. When a team steals 7 bases in 5 innings, that tells you all you need to know. If the braves had a pitching coach, he would not allow Hanson to continue to pitch with his pathetic delivery and arm angle. Not only is he slow to the plate, but he has lost so much velocity on his fast ball. All he can do now, is rely on his curve ball, which isn’t a major league curve ball. I would promote Medlen to the rotation, drop Hanson to 4th in rotation, keep Delgado in 5 spot, and send J.J to AAA or AA. Just get him out of the rotation.

PaulG

July 25th, 2012
8:05 pm

sorry 64 braves fan but Stolen bases do not equate to more runs scored if the % of successfull steals is ~70%

PaulG

July 25th, 2012
8:06 pm

Amazing….no fire fredi blogs yet….this can’t last……who will be the first

bostonbravo

July 25th, 2012
8:15 pm

Here ya go Paul G!!!
Whenever Fredi sez “WE”..it means the other person. As in “WE decided”, “WE thought it best”.
I think he’s a really bright man, but in brutal baseball terms: he’s clueless. Luckily for him, he is working for an equally clueless boss. This happens.

OrlandoBraveFan

July 25th, 2012
8:32 pm

If Medlen goes to starting rotation, we need someone else to bridge the short innings Hanson and Minor are giving us. If JJ or Delgado are involved, there’s two more. So, if Huddy and Medlen are starting that seems cool. Sheets is cool too but every win he gives us is good. We can’t count on him to be a horse. We need to fill in with trades where Medlen is not. If he starts, we need good bullpen help. If he is in the bullpen, we have to trade one of our good young arms to get temporary talent. I personally am stoked that Dempster turned us down, let’s keep our young arms and put Medlen in the starting rotation. Frank, trade for good bullpen depth…just my opinion.

jojo

July 25th, 2012
8:40 pm

whatever the Braves do, I hope they do NOT trade Prado! He’s one of the best hitters on the team and willing to play anywhere they ask him to, and he does a good job.

Tampa Gator

July 25th, 2012
8:41 pm

@VinceVanGo…..

I just love it when you tell a future hall of famer how to hit. Yeah boy.

kjb

July 25th, 2012
8:45 pm

Enter your comments here

Tampa Gator

July 25th, 2012
8:45 pm

I think every Braves fan sees what Gonzalez and Wren can’t seem to see…..that the best trade the Braves can make is putting Medlen into the starting rotation (trading JJ to the minors again). And the Braves get to keep a potential star starter in Delgado. But I am sure Gonzalez will not do that…..and Wren will probably trade both Medlen and Delgado for some other 35 year old pitcher who does not want to be a Brave.

kjb

July 25th, 2012
8:47 pm

Good game J-Hey…slowly but surely he’s getting better at the plate…..22yrs old!!!!!

Done

July 25th, 2012
8:51 pm

Hanson fits in with Ugla. THEY BOTH SUX!

Virginia Brave Fan

July 25th, 2012
8:58 pm

I never want this team to trade Prado. Trade Uggla and put Martin back at second. Uggla for Grienke. Or Uggla for Justin Upton.

kral

July 25th, 2012
9:02 pm

yeah boy gave up 1 run..he sucked…or am I WRONG maybe it was your done blog..TG loved your 8:41

Stuart

July 25th, 2012
9:02 pm

Trade one JJ for another…

VinceVanGo

July 25th, 2012
9:04 pm

Tampa Gator…

Yes Chipper is a Hall of Famer and I am not telling him how to hit. But the other night when the Marlins pitcher was all over the place and had just walked the bases loaded, then Chipper comes up and swings at the first pitch. I know that he’s not a career .305 hitter by chance, but if you’re an avid follower of the Braves you should have noticed that they are a much better hitting team when they work the count than when they swing at the first pitch or two frequently.

kirkinga

July 25th, 2012
9:20 pm

Some things cannot be reduced to numbers. While it may be true that stolen bases do not equal runs, it is absolutely true that base runners but pressure on the defense. Stressing the defense is just part of competition.

Baseball without base stealing is like basketball without pressing or football without blitzing.

Billy Rahall

July 25th, 2012
9:22 pm

I hear about Sheets alot… but you guys do realize he is rental property as well. That one reason means that the braves have to extend who ever they trade for because any trade will lead to at least two open spot in the rotation next year. You have to assume that Sheets will not be with the braves next year. You also will not have either Minor or Delgado, because they will be the center of a long list of prospect going the other way. I doubt that they can afford Grenke long term so that is not a good trade. Also Felix Hernandez would be better net because he is under control beyond next year. The most realistic trade I can see is Delgado and Medlen along with a lesser prospect for a pitcher that is under contract for at least two seasons. It would be nice to get Michael Saunders as Borne’s replacement because he isnt going to be back next year. Plus I am tired of of seeing Borrne complaining when he doesnt get a call.
So the first idea is Delgado, or Vizcaino and position prospect for Felix and Saunders
Second idea is Delgado, Vizcaino and positional prospect for Johnson and Ruggino

One reason this make sense to be is the braves do not have a shutdown #1 starter and they are going to have to play into the playoffs because they arent catching the Nationals. Do you really want Tim Hudson as the pitcher you are depending on to get you into the playoffs? I doubt it.
Now I will be honest.. If I was dealing in a dynasty fantasy league… I would not do either trade but I would never be desperate for pitching like the braves seem to be.
Ok… Now tear up those ideas.

Clay

July 25th, 2012
9:26 pm

Is it just me or does Hanson stills have that hitch in his delivery?

BrianSC

July 25th, 2012
9:32 pm

They should have NOT left Florida without Josh Johnson being on the plane.

The trade should have been Josh Johnson for Hanson, JJ, and Delgado. Then, move Medlen to the rotation.

Post-trade rotation…

Hudson, Sheets, Johnson, Minor, and Medlen

Of course, don’t make the trade unless you think you can sign the newcomer to a contract.

TexanBrave

July 25th, 2012
9:38 pm

If you look at this staff from front to back for the last………what is it now……seven years……….we are screaming for just one thing………………..a Pitching Coach. Roger has got em…….. “all messed up”………as Nolan Ryan used to say…………y’all gonna figure it out…………….sooner or (too) later for one more year…..

kral

July 25th, 2012
9:40 pm

nice painting over your irrational statement VAN G…that’s right you cut off a ear once despite your face

kral

July 25th, 2012
9:52 pm

it is the pitching coach..it is the batting coach, it’s the manager..it’s the gm..it’s the ownership…or maybe it’s just baseball..a game we will never figure out because the variables are just to immense

#3

July 25th, 2012
10:12 pm

This team is more than one piece away from a World Series. Braves need a power bat that is a consistent threat in the outfield, an ace and a #2 pitcher.
I am cool with Grinke if we don’t sell the farm and lock him up for 3 years. But we will need a little more to get over the hump.

PMC

July 25th, 2012
10:18 pm

So outside of an aging Hudson and a resurgent lefty… do we have anything working in the starting rotation now?

PMC

July 25th, 2012
10:21 pm

This all said, Hanson didn’t have great control today, but all those walks and steals didn’t hurt them. I’ll take a win anyway it has to happen, though after the 1st few, the Marlins can’t really hit.

West GA Braves Fan

July 25th, 2012
10:24 pm

@ Vince

You are correct Chip is not a .305 hitter by chance, he also doesn’t need any hitting advice from anyone on a blog.

TWO GOOD DOGS

July 25th, 2012
10:36 pm

HANSON HAS AND ALWAYS WILL HAVE THAT HITCH, OR HESITATION, THAT BENDS HIS ELBOW BACK SO FAR , THERE’S NO WAY HE’LL NOT HAVE ARM PROBLEMS DOWN THE LINE. DOESN’T THROW WITH ANY BODY MOMENTUM, JUST THE ARM . I’M SURE THE BRAVES MAY HAVE TRIED TO GET SOME FLUIDITY INTO HIS MOTION BUT HAD TO JUST TAKE WHAT HE GIVES. IN THE LONG RUN, HIS ARM WILL JUST WEAR OUT. DOESN’T HAVE THE THROWING EASE OF JOHN SMOLTZ OR OF JOSH JOHNSON.

Billy Rahall

July 25th, 2012
10:40 pm

There is a power bat on the market but you guys would flip when I suggest it. Alfonso Soriano. I hear the cubs would eat lots of his huge contract. I dont know where he would be played unless you use prado in a super utility role from OF, Third, Second and First everynight. So here we go what can the braves give for him. Medlen straight up. Again.. I would never do this in a fantasy league but the braves would have to give something substantial in order for the cubs to eat as much of Soriano’s contract as they could in order to be affordable for the braves.

Ken Stallings

July 25th, 2012
10:53 pm

Unfortunately, any other ballpark in the NL and Hanson would have given up at least two homers and likely 5 to 7 runs! That the Braves cranked out three homers in this most pitcher friendly of all NL ballparks and scored 7 runs is a testimony to how well the Braves hit the ball today!

Kris Medlin looked absolutely dominant today and could have easily gone four inning his pitches were like a homing radar on the target that McCann set down in the zone. Medlin needs to flat out join the starting rotation. He can certainly contribute five strong innings and frankly that is all the Jurrjens and Hanson have been able to tally on a good night!

Hanson is looking better than Jurrjens. In my view, Hanson needs to be relegated to number five starter. Perhaps he can figure it out and give the Braves a truly dominant pitching rotation:

1. Hudson
2. Sheets
3. Delgado
4. Medlin
5. Hanson

BravesWin

July 25th, 2012
10:54 pm

@ kirkinga…I like my chances better, too, with a stolen base. Well said.
@ clay…no, it’s not just you that sees Hanson’s ongoing hitch, it’s a million people watching the game, and especially every batter and baserunner that he faces. The only people who don’t see it are Roger and Fredi.

Ken Stallings

July 25th, 2012
10:56 pm

Or as others have mentioned, perhaps keep Mike Minor in the rotation and replace Medlin with Delgado as the designated long reliever.

Billy Rahall

July 25th, 2012
10:57 pm

Ken.. No Mike Minor?

Bro

July 25th, 2012
11:02 pm

Gonzalea and McDowell have no idea what they are doing with Medlin–pitching him or not pitch him, stretch him out so he can start, send him down or bring him up. If they don’t mess up a good pitcher, no one will. Want to send someone down–how about Hansen? He is a
lousey pitcher with poor form and a total lack of willingness to get better.
At least when he pitches the bullpen gets a lot of action.

Buzz 2011

July 25th, 2012
11:06 pm

No rout!! My gosh you were playing the Marlins not theYankees. The Braves will be swept by the Phils and have little left..

Need an interested owner

July 25th, 2012
11:07 pm

Wow! The post monster ate my post. All I said was we have WAY too many holes. Medlen as a starter, trade for a reliever. Or trade for a starter, and we need a righty bat. Uggs isn’t any better than another pitcher at the plate. Get Uggs straightened out, it’d be huge.

Need an interested owner

July 25th, 2012
11:12 pm

Btw, I was flat out wrong about Heyward. He obviously has made huge strides, and gotten healthy.
Welcome back, J Hey!
I hope to soon say I was wrong about Hanson.

TK

July 25th, 2012
11:17 pm

I saw where the Brewers are listening about Corey Hart. He would be a nice right handed bat.

Yogi Berra

July 25th, 2012
11:21 pm

MLB said J-Hey for Upton that would give Braves the RH bat they need other things being equal.
Thats not my opinion.I would love to have Upton, J Hey and Bourn in OF.

wb

July 25th, 2012
11:36 pm

Don’t include Prado in any possible trade!! Remember the Brett Butler trade with Cleveland?

[...] amazes me, that as documented here, “Braves pitcher Tommy Hanson … allowed a career-high seven walks and seven stolen [...]

man and dog

July 26th, 2012
2:16 am

Any pitcher with a hitch will at some point get ditched.
In the famous words of the Church Lady – “could it be…..HANSON?”

man and dog

July 26th, 2012
2:22 am

By the way Henske, maybe you should follow your former, now Giant, teammates’ lead and lose some weight

man and dog

July 26th, 2012
2:30 am

I may come off to a lot of homers as a basher or hater of the Braves. But I am a Braves fan through and through since they moved to Atlanta when I was 8 years old. I know baseball and I see the obvious that, it seems, Braves management doesn’t see. I will lead this team to a World Series Championship for $2.35 an hour if Media Liberty gives me the chance.

man and dog

July 26th, 2012
2:32 am

All I demand is my dog plays shortstop

MJinATL

July 26th, 2012
2:52 am

Tommy Hanson’s performance shouldn’t be a shocker to Braves fans because all we have to do is go back to 2005 and remember that this happened all year when Jorge Sosa started.

Teddy B

July 26th, 2012
4:05 am

“J-Hey for Upton”, Yogi? Are you serious? J-Hey is just now healthy and meeting/exceeding expectations, have you read what they Diamondbacks think of Mr. Upton? They question if he’s a winner. Why trade the guy who is winning us games, one after another, for a guy who hasn’t even convinced his coaches he’s a winner? Are you serious?

I thought Heyward’s 2012 put to bed all the doubters and trade him/send him to Triple-A headcases but I guess they still exist here and there. Oh well, just be happy we have a winner as it is and don’t wish for things you really don’t want.

clay

July 26th, 2012
4:05 am

Just move JJ to the bullpen, bring medlen in for his place and trade for grienke. Imagine our starters:
1. Grienke
2. Hudson
3. Minor (only bc you want to have a lefty in the middle.)
4. Medlen
5. Hanson
That is a hell of a starting rotation. Wren will add another right handed bat for pinch hitting and platooning. Venters looks like he is on his way back to pitching the eight inning and moylan looks like he is on his way back with the big club. Man all that falls into place. I smell a shot at a WS.

Teddy B

July 26th, 2012
4:08 am

They EVER trade Heyward and this Braves fan since youth would be out the door in a minute. He’s the future of our team, guys like this don’t come around often. The last guy this good that I’ve seen was Pujols, no joke. I honestly think Heyward is going to be twice as good as Bryce Harper, that should tell you something..

clay

July 26th, 2012
4:08 am

Wow. I can’t believe I forgot about sheets. Never mind, keep medlen in the bullpen. Use sheets in that 4th spot.

Stoned Mountain

July 26th, 2012
4:39 am

If Hanson concentrated and worked as hard on the leadoff guys as he does bailing his butt out of trouble he would be a decent pitcher. Got to work on that delivery, which is a license to steal.

Beltrans Right Ear Mole

July 26th, 2012
5:03 am

Did y’all hear the potentially good news? The Sun God Uggla disrespected when he hit the SUN may have taken its pound of flesh!

This Uggla beaning may be EXCELLENT news.

Uggla hit the Sun on that sculpture in centerfield during the last trip to Miami. That is the precise date his slump struck. Check the record…

This is not a joke!!!

Maybe Dan paid indemnity for this transgression by this beaning and his SLUMP will be OVER!!!

Could be.

Yours truly

Beltran’s right ear mole (not to be mistaken for “Carlos Beltran’s Mole.”

http://twitter.com/moleofbeltran )

No playoff's as F.G..is managing.

July 26th, 2012
7:29 am

FIRE FREDI G.

Old Time Fan

July 26th, 2012
7:47 am

I think Hanson’s nickname should be “Brick” since he is a redhead and has an extremely hard head. The game before this one he threw a batter the same pitch six times in a row before he finally hit a home run. I also remember a game earlier where the Glavine was announcing and explained how he needed to change the eye level of the batter, but he threw the ball in the same spot the next pitch and it was hit out. So “Brick” has been christened, help me carry the name on.

FAKE DAVE OBRIEN

July 26th, 2012
8:07 am

NEXT FOR THE BRAVES: Phillies

Friday. 7:35 pm. Hamels vs Sheets
Saturday 7:10 pm. Blanton vs Minor
Sunday 1:35 pm. Halladay vs Hudson

After 4-3 record in 7 games trip for D.C and Miami the Braves are back to Atlanta this weekend hosting the Phillies.

The Philies swept the Brewers in 3-games series this week winning the 3 games in the last at bat , 2 vs Francisco Rodriguez a former Met who blown the save last Monday and Wednesday…a lot of luck for the Phillies because faced one of the most overrated relievers in the game and one of the worst bullpens in NL ..

why good luck? because Halladay pitch uggly and left the game with 6 ER Monday night, Lee pitched uggly too but they took advantage of played vs the Brewers and the bullpen disaster

Hamels sign 6 year-144 mdd extension couple of days ago..

the last time the Phillies were in ATL the braves only won one game with a 2-run walk off HR by Chipper, but they swept the Phillies in the last series of the 1st half with a nice games by Hudson,Hanson and Jurrjens all with quality starts and McCaan knocking a HR in each game

Etc…

The Braves take off Jurrjens for his next start (saturday) and moving the rotation in natural 4-days rest so Minor and Hudson are pitching the last 2 games of the series

Francisco´s HR was estimated in 430ft , a real monster shot

Frank Wren could be trying to acquire Greinke this weekend before Greinke´s sunday game vs WSH in MIlwaukee,, the center piece in this deal could be Teheran along with Pastornicky and other pitcher or player from the minor league system……

FAKE DAVE OBRIEN

Hosea Williams

July 26th, 2012
8:14 am

I would rather trade Hanson than delgado, we will lose Hanson to free agency anyway.

Amber Girl

July 26th, 2012
8:19 am

Good morning Y’all. Is it OK if I come in?

Buckbaloweme

July 26th, 2012
8:29 am

same old same old, when the Braves hit homers they win. When they don’t they lose. It’s not rocket science but it sure would be nice if this team could score more without having to rely on the home run so much.

Winchester

July 26th, 2012
8:48 am

Running on Hanson with his type of delivery? Any manager can see this and exploit the weakness.

Relying on home runs to win will never prove successful in any post season play.

dap01

July 26th, 2012
8:55 am

After this season, I would trade Hanson. He is on a downward slope and his agent is Boras. Trade him and free up salary.

Speedy Gonzalez

July 26th, 2012
9:00 am

Current rotation ranking:
1. Huddy
2. Hanson
3. Sheets
4. Minor

Not scaring anybody with this set of guys, very very average, looks like another wait till next year YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

reckingball

July 26th, 2012
9:01 am

Yeah, I hate it when the Braves hit home runs, especially when they when by hitting homeruns.

reckingball

July 26th, 2012
9:03 am

I meant to say ‘when they win by hitting homeruns’

Amber Girl

July 26th, 2012
9:07 am

Good morning Mr reckingball, I agree. As long as they win,who cares.

LaMarr

July 26th, 2012
9:14 am

“After this season, I would trade Hanson. He is on a downward slope and his agent is Boras. Trade him and free up salary.”
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Hanson makes $535K. That’s really “freeing up” some salary!

Amber Girl

July 26th, 2012
9:18 am

LaMarr Why don’t you like Mr Hanson? He is a Brave. I root for him to do good.

Joey

July 26th, 2012
9:37 am

Did MLB ban pickoff moves to 1st base? (sarcasm)

How is it that coming up through the Braves system, nobody noticed Hanson
s slow delivery, and said, “buddy, you need a pickoff move or EVERYBODY will steal 2nd on you.”

Joey

July 26th, 2012
9:44 am

Francisco’s looking good after shakey first few games. Hits well when starting – looks like we have Chipper’s replacement for the future.

cowdogit

July 26th, 2012
9:52 am

Hanson has talent” He needs a good pitching coach. Most of the blogs are about pitchers. For fourteen years Mazzone had one of the best bullpens in the national league. No one ever complained about pitchers during the Mazzone era. If anyone needs to vent they should complain about the real problem and that would be the pitching coach.

BravesFan79

July 26th, 2012
9:53 am

I see alot of promise in Hanson. Have never thought of him as a #1 starter tho. And this team lacks that Smoltz type #1 ace that you need in the playoffs. And why would Sheets be just a rental? Its not like hes going to command 20million next year.

Sammy

July 26th, 2012
9:53 am

Amber girl, we all root and hope for the Braves players, but when you stink, you stink! Hanson stinks!!

Amber Girl

July 26th, 2012
9:58 am

OK Sammy. My question is. Didn’t he win yesterday? Why does he stink? I missed game. Maybe I am wrong.

Yogi Berra

July 26th, 2012
10:26 am

Amber Girl, he stinks when he don’t take a bath.

Tumbledown

July 26th, 2012
10:27 am

How did Mazzone do in Baltimore? I think he was a very good pitching coach who was fortunate to be coaching three future hall of famers while in Atlanta.

BravesFan79

July 26th, 2012
10:31 am

I think Mazzone would still make a excellent pitching coach. Maybe Mcdowell would make a better AAA coach to work with the youngsters.

BravesFan79

July 26th, 2012
10:33 am

I would love to see Mazzone work with Delgado, Minor and the other youngen starter we have. If anything the Braves should bring him back as special assistant.

reckingball

July 26th, 2012
10:36 am

It’s all Roger’s fault.

Braves fan in pennsylvania

July 26th, 2012
10:46 am

I love that the posters all assume Ben Sheets is going to be healthy and good for the rest of the year. He’s had two unbelieveable starts, but do you all think he’s throwing six scoreless every five days for the remainder of the season?
And who is going to want to trade for Jurrjens? He is terrible. And a lot of posts say ‘trade JJ and Delgado for Greinke’. That’s not happening.
How about we trade Delgado and Teheran for James Sheilds from TB. We need a power pitcher for the playoffs and we dont have one.

Yogi Berra

July 26th, 2012
10:46 am

In Baltimore he had nothing to work with..you can’t make chicken salad out of chicken sh**! Those 3 HOF’er were not HOF’er when he started working with them. They were young kids except Maddog..You can put Leo’s record up against any pitching coach in baseball and he will be in top 5.

Reckingball-nobody said it was all McDowell’s fault but he has failed just like Parrish and should have been fired last year just like Parrish was.

reckingball

July 26th, 2012
10:47 am

Mazzone is such a great pitching coach, that I think the Braves should re-hire him, sign him to a long term contract, and make him the Head pitchiing coach, then make Roger his assistant.
Next, the Braves could give Roger about 2 or 3 days to pick Leo’s brain, and learn how to be a pitching coach, without getting all of the Braves players injured.
After Roger has learned everything that Leo knows, the Braves could then trade Leo, for a top of the line starting pitcher.

Dirty Dawg

July 26th, 2012
10:49 am

Tommy Hanson is an enigma to me. He hurts his shoulder – which in my estimation, with that ‘all-arm’ delivery of his will come up again and again – claims that he has ‘reworked’ that delivery in order to be quicker to the plate, or to use his legs and size to make him a better pitcher…and then this happens. He tells us in his post-game interview that he knows what’s wrong (assume mechanics), but dollars to donuts nothing will have changed his next time out. I’m not one those that blames our pitching coach, and I never felt that Leo was responsible for Maddux, Glavine and Smoltz’s success – have you ever heard any one of them give Leo credit? But somehow, someway Tommy’s got to put stuff into practice that he, supposedly, is learning. That he ended up winning the game yesterday was a fluke based primarily on the fact that the Marlins had so depleted their roster that they didn’t have anybody left capable of getting a clutch hit. Bottom-line…put Medlen in the starting rotation now. Anybody with half a brain could see the obvious contrast between him and Hanson. Medlen’s become a pitcher, Hanson’s still a thrower with a flawed delivery.

1eyedJack

July 26th, 2012
10:54 am

“I think if we were in Vegas it would have been a nice line — seven walks, seven stolen bases, seven strikeouts,” Braves manager Fredi Gonzalez said. “That’s a good line in the slot machines, but it’s not something we want to do every fifth day.”

Ol’ Fredi is sharp, ain’t he?

Yogi Berra

July 26th, 2012
10:55 am

Ok reckingball be smart if you like are funny. I didn’t say hire Leo. If someone is not doing their job do you keep letting it go are replace them. I guess you just let it go. I thought more of you than being happen with average crap. Guess Wren is crazy then if he tries to improve the team?

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