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unbelievable
July 27th, 2012
1:33 pm
Phils arent playing 27 games above .500 the rest of the way. 90 wins is probably the benchmark.
Jeff R
July 27th, 2012
1:34 pm
They have dropped baseball from Olympics I believe, but have they kept softball?
Of course the Olympics would drop baseball… only played in the Americas, Japan, Australia (now), and beginning to be played in parts of Asia.
Why, baseball just doesn’t have much global reach, like shot-putting.
Jeff R
July 27th, 2012
1:34 pm
90 wins is probably the threshold, but not necessarily.
tony austin
July 27th, 2012
1:35 pm
The Braves are on a pace to win 89 games. If 90 wins gets a one game playoff they might be in pretty good shape w/o a significant move.
The Nats are on a pace to win 98 games. Maybe they’ll keep that pace, maybe they won’t, but if they do the Braves will have to play .688 the rest of the way. That would be quite an improvement to go from .551 to .688. I don’t think Greinke or any one player is going to make up that kind of a difference.
That doesn’t mean I’m against trading for Greinke. If he’s available to the Braves then go for it, if not try to get him in the off-season.
Shaun
July 27th, 2012
1:37 pm
I think the biggest factors in where Greinke signs in the offseason are the contract offer and in which city he wants to play. I don’t think the team trading for Greinke will get any extra points from Greinke when it comes to where he might sign.
If a team offers him a good contract and he wants to pitch in that city, he’ll go to that team whether he pitched their in 2012 or not, I strongly suspect.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 27th, 2012
1:39 pm
Downside risk for the Braves: Greinke signs with whoever he’s traded to.
This. Question to ask is “Is Teheran/Delgado+ others worth it to make sure I have the best chance at him”
They have dropped baseball from Olympics I believe, but have they kept softball?
I know… What a joke…
TennesseePaul
July 27th, 2012
1:41 pm
I don’t think the team trading for Greinke will get any extra points from Greinke
I don’t think he’d give a team points simply for trading for him, but I wouldn’t be surprised to find that Greinke would evaluate his experience playing in that city as either a plus or a minus when determining his future.
unbelievable
July 27th, 2012
1:43 pm
On 90 games, true, its not a requirement but as of this moment the Braves are a borderline playoff team. They need a top flight starter to take some innings off of this pen and away from JJ.
DAM
July 27th, 2012
1:46 pm
Softball has also been dropped, I believe.
Efrim
July 27th, 2012
1:46 pm
Downside risk for the Braves: Greinke signs with whoever he’s traded to
When? In August? September? In the middle of a pennant race?
NCMike
July 27th, 2012
1:48 pm
Solo synchronized swimming was dropped a while back. What a joke!
Disgusted
July 27th, 2012
1:49 pm
I don’t think the Braves are getting a SP in the off season, even a middle of the pack SP is going to cost in the 7-8 mil range in Free Agency.
Its a safe gamble that Delgado and Minor will be better with a little experience.
They will be fools not to pick up the option on Hudson who is a bargain. Its not the worst thing to keep on with the kids and allow JJ to walk away. JJ is just not that good anymore.
It will be interesting to see what Hanson does next yr. Can he get another mile or two on the fastball gain in the off season??????? That we have to find out.
There is NO WAY the Braves are affording a $20 mil per yr SP, and some guys are getting more than that. Not with a $90 or $95 mil payroll.
The max I see the Braves paying for a player is around $15 mil per.
Going to be interesting to see just how well Sheets does and if he is real real good, what other teams will offer him in this off season. Sheets is still a work in progress but with a great early start.
Rotation for 2013?????
Hudson
Hanson
Delgado
Minor
Teheran/Medlen or….Maybe Sheets (depends on alot of factors) or a veteran they find on the real cheap very late in free agency.
Gilmartin, I doubt we see him till late 14 or 15.
Efrim
July 27th, 2012
1:52 pm
So we signed Miguel Batista. Org. depth.
McKee
July 27th, 2012
1:52 pm
From Jayson Stark: The Braves may not have announced on anybody’s radio show that they’ve moved on with Zack Greinke, the way they did for Ryan Dempster, but they are telling teams that they’re turning their focus away from the rotation and are shopping more for bullpen and bench pieces. That would be an indication they have no interest in dealing Julio Teheran for a rental player.
Sowega Fanatic
July 27th, 2012
1:53 pm
Regarding Phils: “Sweep this weekend and the distance is probably 6.5 depending on Cards @ Chi and Dodgers @ Giants”
Oh, good grief. 5 “ifs” in that statement alone. Phils are done.
Trader Jack
July 27th, 2012
1:54 pm
Braves sign Miguel Batista, reports David Lennon of Newsday
PHILLY PHAN
July 27th, 2012
1:55 pm
MIGUEL BATISTA TO THE BRAVES!!!!!
THAT’S YOUR MID-SEASON PITCHER…THAT WILL CARRIE YOU TO THE POST-SEASON.
MLB TRADE RUMORS…
Trader Jack
July 27th, 2012
1:55 pm
The Braves have agreed to sign Miguel Batista, David Lennon of Newsday reports (on Twitter). The Mets released the 41-year-old right-hander yesterday after designating him for assignment.
Batista posted a 4.82 ERA with 6.6 K/9 and 6.0 BB/9 in 46 2/3 innings for the Mets this year, including five starts. Batista joined the Mets last summer on a minor league deal and signed another with the club in January. The 18-year veteran has a 4.49 ERA with 5.8 K/9 and 4.1 BB/9 in his career.
Sowega Fanatic
July 27th, 2012
1:56 pm
Miguel Batista? They have to be kidding.
Disgusted
July 27th, 2012
1:56 pm
Don’t get it either. Brought this up a few days ago. Unless they are increasing the payroll 10-15 million that we don’t know about. I just don’t see how this works.
Efrim — One thing about this ownership group is that they do not let you know much about what they are about. That might not be such a bad thing, but increasing payroll is not characteristic of this group. Hell, do they even like baseball???????
They are doing alot of talking for sure, but this off season we will see how much action they are real about.
Robert
July 27th, 2012
1:58 pm
“The Nats are on a pace to win 98 games. Maybe they’ll keep that pace, maybe they won’t”
Can’t worry about the Nats. We need to take care of our own business. Of course, it would be nice if the Nats gave us a game or two by going ahead and shutting Strasburg down
Disgusted
July 27th, 2012
1:59 pm
Batista has to be bullpen depth.
keylargo
July 27th, 2012
2:00 pm
They have dropped baseball from Olympics I believe, but have they kept softball?
Of course the Olympics would drop baseball… only played in the Americas, Japan, Australia (now), and beginning to be played in parts of Asia.
Why, baseball just doesn’t have much global reach, like shot-putting.
Baseball is probably going to see a big downswing the rest of our lifetimes. It just isn’t played as much by kids as it used to be. Nothing is being played by kids now like it was in the past.
I don’t claim to be able to predict the future and don’t have any stats but the last game of the Marlins/Braves series was attended by about 20,000 kids from area youth programs. The Marlins were persuaded to close the retractable roof and turn on the AC to keep the kids from getting hot. It’s just not the same and I can’t see any outside sports not declining in this environment kids now are being taught.
raleighbravefan
July 27th, 2012
2:00 pm
Phillie Phan – Where you been lately?…..LOSER!
Shaun
July 27th, 2012
2:01 pm
The Miguel Bautista signing could be a move to fill a Triple-A roster spot in case of a trade of a prospect. I don’t think there is any way he’s getting a major league deal. This is probably not as big a deal as people may be making it out to be.
Crazy Talk!
July 27th, 2012
2:01 pm
I was going to make a joke that the Braves would sign Batista when I saw the Mets released him.
DAAAMNNN! What I thought was a joke turned into a REAL JOKE! hehehehe
Disgusted
July 27th, 2012
2:02 pm
From Jayson Stark: The Braves may not have announced on anybody’s radio show that they’ve moved on with Zack Greinke, the way they did for Ryan Dempster, but they are telling teams that they’re turning their focus away from the rotation and are shopping more for bullpen and bench pieces. That would be an indication they have no interest in dealing Julio Teheran for a rental player.
That is what I expected, and I did not get all that excited over the propsed big names that have been dallied about. This ain’t Ted’s Braves anymore.
And will reiterate that keeping our big 3 kids, Julio, Mike and Randall ain’t bad at all.
cricket
July 27th, 2012
2:02 pm
Rotation for 2013?????
Hudson
Hanson
Delgado
Minor
Teheran/Medlen or….Maybe Sheets (depends on alot of factors) or a veteran they find on the real cheap very late in free agency
looks like my next year’s MLB EI package will be gone. good that i’ll have lots of time available during summer evenings, may be to go to gym finally.
Boonie27
July 27th, 2012
2:02 pm
So Medlen to the rotation with Bautista as the long man in the pen?
Crazy Talk!
July 27th, 2012
2:03 pm
This is “Livan Lite.”
unbelievable
July 27th, 2012
2:04 pm
Stark – The Braves may not have announced on anybody’s radio show that they’ve moved on with Zack Greinke, the way they did for Ryan Dempster, but they are telling teams that they’re turning their focus away from the rotation and are shopping more for bullpen and bench pieces. That would be an indication they have no interest in dealing Julio Teheran for a rental player. It’s also an indication that they will have a tough time convincing themselves they can re-sign Greinke in the wake of the Cole Hamels contract.
Efrim
July 27th, 2012
2:04 pm
The Braves may not have announced on anybody’s radio show that they’ve moved on with Zack Greinke, the way they did for Ryan Dempster, but they are telling teams that they’re turning their focus away from the rotation and are shopping more for bullpen and bench pieces. That would be an indication they have no interest in dealing Julio Teheran for a rental player. It’s also an indication that they will have a tough time convincing themselves they can re-sign Greinke in the wake of the Cole Hamels contract. – Jayson Stark
unbelievable
July 27th, 2012
2:05 pm
Just wait until Sheets goes down. Our potential playoff rotation – Hudson, Hanson, Minor
Trader Jack
July 27th, 2012
2:06 pm
When did the Braves hire Omar Minaya as an advance scout?
cricket
July 27th, 2012
2:06 pm
cricket July 26th, 2012 4:25 pm
Miguel Batista is released
cricket July 25th, 2012 10:09 am
Vargas is very good in club house and braves kept all top prospects and braves did not overpay …
there, i’m getting a jump start on what will be posted on this blog by many pretty soon..
PHILLY PHAN
July 27th, 2012
2:07 pm
GREAT MOVE WREN…DEGADO AND HEYWARD FOR BATISTA
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 27th, 2012
2:07 pm
Dang, spoiling my Zack Greinke party!
Zack’s gonna be so sad this offseason, can’t come to his fave team…. (sarcasm)
A RP and a bench bat isn’t too bad I guess… just hope our pitchers keep this up, they’ve been very shaky.
Disgusted
July 27th, 2012
2:08 pm
You can always use a veteran arm as org depth this time of the yr, but as one poster said, this could be for AAA depth for now.
Batista was not a bad pitcher five, ten yrs ago. Once won 16 games in a season.
And for this winter, do not expect it to be much more exciting than last winter was. As long as Liberty Cheapedia is around, no studs are going to be kept here unless we develop them from the system.
The system is the backbone of the ATL Braves organization as they are constructed now.
And what is our $90 something mil payroll going to be in five yrs????? For sure we will be a bottom third payroll by then, assuming things are the same.
We are fortunate to have good young pitching prospects, and some good young guys like Heyward, Freeman and Simmons who will enter their prime in 2 yrs. Very lucky.
If our system goes on a bad run, we are in real trouble.
Ward
July 27th, 2012
2:08 pm
Hello everyone! True, and the Braves signed RP Bautista, not too bad of a signing……Also Braves are first up on Jame Shields, and were mentioned first up on Greinke.
unbelievable
July 27th, 2012
2:08 pm
just hope our pitchers keep this up
Keep what up? We’ve had one of the worst rotations in the NL this season.
unbelievable
July 27th, 2012
2:09 pm
Also Braves are first up on Jame Shields, and were mentioned first up on Greinke.
What does 1st up mean?
Ward
July 27th, 2012
2:10 pm
Could be Braves will get James Shields, or Greinke? Braves are mentioned first in those guy’s above all the other teams.
PHILLY PHAN
July 27th, 2012
2:10 pm
SHEETS
HUDSON
JJ
BATISTA
HANSON…WORLD SERIES…I CAN SMELL IT!!
Ward
July 27th, 2012
2:11 pm
Braves are in the lead……
Bama Brave
July 27th, 2012
2:11 pm
Where Gonna Get One Of Them I Hope…
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 27th, 2012
2:12 pm
Playoff rotation today would have to be Hudson, Hanson, Minor. Sheets and Delgado (is he gonna replace JJ soon) are our 4/5. You have to be okay with that in case we make the playoffs.
unbelievable
July 27th, 2012
2:12 pm
Im guessing if Stark is correct, then Medlen will be moved to the rotation and Batista may replace him in the pen? Not sure how we go from adding Dempster, to adding Batista.
PHILLY PHAN
July 27th, 2012
2:12 pm
MAY BE THEY CAN GO AND GET VICENTE PADILLA NEXT…
Disgusted
July 27th, 2012
2:12 pm
Grienke is going after the $$$$$$$$$$$ and if an East Coast team shows him the cash don’t think for a minute that he won’t chase the bucks.
Anxiety and all, fact is that money speaks most of the time, and if he flops, hey, don’t feel sorry for him.
unbelievable
July 27th, 2012
2:13 pm
Hanson hasnt pitched more than 5.1IP in any start since the all star break. Not sure how much you can count on the soft tosser come playoff time.
McKee
July 27th, 2012
2:13 pm
Philly Phan: Funny thing is, that proposed rptation of yours for the Braves will get a hell of a lot closer than your rotation with Halladay, Cole and Lee…….go figure
tony austin
July 27th, 2012
2:14 pm
Not sure how we go from adding Dempster, to adding Batista. – unbelievable
That’s because FW is running the show.
Juan
July 27th, 2012
2:14 pm
WHAT….Hanson/MInor for BATISTA…..or BAUTISTA?..
PHILLY PHAN
July 27th, 2012
2:14 pm
NOW THEY SHOULD GO AND SIGN KEN GREFFEY…
Ward
July 27th, 2012
2:14 pm
I betting Shields more than Greinke, but Greinke does like the Braves…..
TennesseePaul
July 27th, 2012
2:15 pm
shopping more for bullpen and bench pieces
@#$!
I am not upset that the team is keeping its strong pitching. I’m pissed that this team appears to again be thinking along the lines of Ankiel/Farnsworth for the stretch run.
McKee
July 27th, 2012
2:15 pm
Who’s Ken GREFFEY?
O.J.
July 27th, 2012
2:15 pm
PHILLY PHAN, talking a lot of stuff for someone whose team is in last place.
raleighbravefan
July 27th, 2012
2:15 pm
It takes a pretty big moron for a fan of a LAST PLACE TEAM to mouth off.
Efrim
July 27th, 2012
2:15 pm
Im guessing if Stark is correct, then Medlen will be moved to the rotation and Batista may replace him in the pen? Not sure how we go from adding Dempster, to adding Batista.
If they move Medlen into the rotation, they’ll get a bullpen arm like Jonathan Broxton.
Ward
July 27th, 2012
2:15 pm
We go from Dempster to Medlen. I take it as improvement.
TennesseePaul
July 27th, 2012
2:16 pm
Jose Bautista? Awesome!
oh wait…
PHILLY PHAN
July 27th, 2012
2:16 pm
WILL SEE THIS WEEKEND…
ROY VS BATISTA
COLE VS JJ
LEE VS HANSON…YEAH LOOKS PRETTY GOOD TO ME….
Wow
July 27th, 2012
2:16 pm
“I am not upset that the team is keeping its strong pitching.”
What strong pitching?
Brian from SC
July 27th, 2012
2:16 pm
I don’t think Batista is a significant part of anything. I’m not even sure he’ll see the Atlanta roster.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 27th, 2012
2:16 pm
Keep what up? We’ve had one of the worst rotations in the NL this season.
*step this up… our rotation is worst of contenders, it will need to improve. Best SP ERA is 3.71 and our next best is 4.39
Disgusted
July 27th, 2012
2:16 pm
The Only Braves Fan — It could be worse and if the Braves do get there and get bounced right away, that is better than last yr.
Hey, with out post season record since the turn of the century, its something we should be ussed to by now.
This team has actually done better than I thought anyway, were we not picked to finish 4th by most pundits when this started.
We cannot be too disappointed to date. It has been a decent year, but the Nats are better, that is fair.
We got a break in that the Phillies were disappointing and the Marlins well, the record and their dismantling speaks for itself.
Philly should be better in 13, this was a bad yr. The Fish are the Fish.
Efrim
July 27th, 2012
2:16 pm
I am not upset that the team is keeping its strong pitching. I’m pissed that this team appears to again be thinking along the lines of Ankiel/Farnsworth for the stretch run.
And it wouldn’t surprise me one bit to see them go to the Royals for that bullpen arm. Hah! Double Sigh..
unbelievable
July 27th, 2012
2:17 pm
Ward, Ill be surprised if the braves get either. Chipper has been very vocal about this team needing another starter. Sure will be disappointing.
O.J.
July 27th, 2012
2:17 pm
Efrim, your bullpen arm is Bautista
Tomahawkin
July 27th, 2012
2:18 pm
We Just Signed Miguel Batista???
Yuck!
I’m sure that will put Cheeks in the seats
O.J.
July 27th, 2012
2:18 pm
God, I hate Trolls like PHILLY PAN…….Seriously.
Efrim
July 27th, 2012
2:18 pm
I think they’ll stay in on the Greinke talks till the end. But Teheran isn’t going to get traded for him, so he’ll offer Delgado+ and see if that’s enough. It won’t be if Texas stays in it. I suppose we can just hope they go get Josh Johnson or James Shields – however I’m starting to think those two won’t get moved so it’s going to be Angels vs. Rangers for Greinke.
PHILLY PHAN
July 27th, 2012
2:18 pm
I LIKE LITTLE BOYS
TennesseePaul
July 27th, 2012
2:19 pm
they’ll get a bullpen arm like Jonathan Broxton.
This is totally shaping up to be Farnsworth again! In the absence of getting the impact player they had said they would get, the team reaches out to the Royals for a reliever. Who else is on that Royals team? Is there a weak outfielder available?
Disgusted
July 27th, 2012
2:19 pm
“Hanson hasnt pitched more than 5.1IP in any start since the all star break. Not sure how much you can count on the soft tosser come playoff time.”
We do not win in the playoffs anyway, so its no big deal. Winning in the playoffs is something that other teams do, notably Braves opponents who play them in the post season. The record since 2000 speaks for itself.
Crazy Talk!
July 27th, 2012
2:19 pm
I can deal with not adding a starter due to the fact that they are overpriced and most are rentals but good gosh Wren, you could probably get a quality bullpen arm somewhere without resorting to picking up another guy that the METS wouldn’t even keep! I guess the only memory Wren has of Batista is the way he used the Braves a few times in his career. Just because a guy can get the Braves out doesn’t mean he can get anyone else out.
PHILLY PHAN
July 27th, 2012
2:19 pm
EVERYONE LIKES THE BRAVES….AS A SECOND TEAM
BURNETTE LOVE THE BRAVES BUT…YANKEES
DEMPSTER BRAVES IN NO TRADE LIST BUT….DODGERS IS HIS FAVORITE
FURCAL TO THE BRAVES…OH WAIT…NO THE DODGERS
ON AND ON AND ON….
Tomahawkin
July 27th, 2012
2:19 pm
Crazy Talk!
July 27th, 2012
2:03 pm
“This is “Livan Lite.””
Co-Sign!
I will start the Brigade of calling him that with my Ingame Blogging Crew
Brian from SC
July 27th, 2012
2:19 pm
The blog commentors had a hissy fit when Wren thought about trading Delgado. And they’ll have another one if Wren decides not to trade multiple high prospects for a starting pitcher.
It’s as predictable as can be.
Memphis
July 27th, 2012
2:20 pm
Francouer or Alex Gordon ?
Patrick
July 27th, 2012
2:20 pm
Ahh, and in the end, it comes down to the Braves being cheap that is going to cost them the playoffs.
Why am I not surprise.
I’m not sure if McGuirk and Wren have every heard of a little thing called Inflation. But if they want to compete, they are going to have to start signing some REAL high calibur players. No more Uggla’s or Sheets,
They should re-sign Bourn and sign Greinke, that would be a first good step.
But…they won’t sign either and will continue to be mediocre
Pathetic
Disgusted
July 27th, 2012
2:20 pm
The Braves are keeping their “potentially” strong pitching. That is more like it.
PHILLY PHAN
July 27th, 2012
2:20 pm
MY TEAM IS IN LAST PLACE. ONE OF THE HIGHEST PAYROLLS IN BASEBALL. LAST PLACE
Ward
July 27th, 2012
2:21 pm
Philly Phan – How is your Momma? I hear she is fatter than you.
PHILLY PHAN
July 27th, 2012
2:21 pm
I LOVE CHEESTAKES HAIRY BACKS AND NO DEODERANT
Disgusted
July 27th, 2012
2:22 pm
Don’t blame Wren for this forever stagnant payroll, its set way above him,
Wren is keeping the Braves relevant in spite of Mc Guirk and the corporate shirts.
Efrim
July 27th, 2012
2:22 pm
Efrim, your bullpen arm is Bautista
No, it isn’t. Quit freaking out over Miguel Batisita. He’s org. depth.
TennesseePaul
July 27th, 2012
2:22 pm
Francouer
Fits the platoon type player Wren was mentioning….
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 27th, 2012
2:22 pm
I guess Wren’s “moment of insanity” has cooled off that he won’t overpay for an impact starter now…
Hope all 3 or 4 of his starters work out, and that he doesn’t cost himself or FG a job this year…
Tomahawkin
July 27th, 2012
2:23 pm
Robert
“The Nats are on a pace to win 98 games. Maybe they’ll keep that pace, maybe they won’t”
Can’t worry about the Nats. We need to take care of our own business. Of course, it would be nice if the Nats gave us a game or two by going ahead and shutting Strasburg down”
I warned Everyone on Here abt the Curley W’s and was Mocked at and Jeered…They remind me of the 1994 Expos, Just a Better overall team with their Natitude.
We are not catching them, RING THE BELL
JC Brave
July 27th, 2012
2:23 pm
Miguel Batista… a new low.
Tomahawkin
July 27th, 2012
2:23 pm
Ward
“Philly Phan – How is your Momma? I hear she is fatter than you.”
Ouch!
unbelievable
July 27th, 2012
2:24 pm
Wren’s moves since last fall
Traded Derek Lowe
Traded Jairo Asencio for cash
Signed Chad Durbin
Signed Livan Hernandez
JJ Hoover traded for Juan Fransisco
Traded Drew Sutton for cash
Todd Redmond traded for Paul Janish
Signed Miguel Batista
What am I forgetting?
Memphis
July 27th, 2012
2:24 pm
No way Bautista is your bullpen arm. Broxton/Francouer………..May as well Braves like some Georgia boys. Whether Medlen moves to roation or not, I still think the Braves aquire a bullpen arm
Tomahawkin
July 27th, 2012
2:24 pm
@Disgusted
I now see why you use that Moniker Name…Our Owners are A JOKE!
Ward
July 27th, 2012
2:25 pm
That would be grand to see Sheets win……..
Steve from OH
July 27th, 2012
2:25 pm
Miguel Batista? They have to be kidding.
Maybe we just want to know the Mets’ signs for the stretch run?
Trader Jack
July 27th, 2012
2:25 pm
TennesseePaul
July 27th, 2012
2:19 pm
they’ll get a bullpen arm like Jonathan Broxton.
This is totally shaping up to be Farnsworth again! In the absence of getting the impact player they had said they would get, the team reaches out to the Royals for a reliever. Who else is on that Royals team? Is there a weak outfielder available?
Frenchy – Sorry I couldn’t resist
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Memphis
July 27th, 2012
2:25 pm
Unbelievable,
What’s your point?