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UNCBrave
July 27th, 2012
9:49 am
Could this mean the Braves got Greinke and Teheran is GONE???
Ken Rosenthal@Ken_Rosenthal
#Braves have promoted their first-round pick in 2011, LHP Sean Gilmartin, to Triple A. Gilmartin was 5-8 with a 3.54 ERA at Double A.
tony austin
July 27th, 2012
9:50 am
Imagine this blog if the Braves do sign Greinke for 5 or so years/$100+ million and then he tanks.
TennesseePaul
July 27th, 2012
9:51 am
Young, Byrd, and Sizemore
Ha! ( : man that would be the most polarizing and frustrating outfield in history. Zero production but tons of print.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 27th, 2012
9:51 am
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
#Braves have promoted their first-round pick in 2011, LHP Sean Gilmartin, to Triple A. Gilmartin was 5-8 with a 3.54 ERA at Double A.
Yeah C’Mon! September callup, maybe?
Lew
July 27th, 2012
9:51 am
Prado hitting leadoff – .297, .339, .462
Prado hitting second – .290, .339, .418
Bravesfaninnc
July 27th, 2012
9:52 am
@UNCBrave that what I am also thinking otherwise why would Gilmartin get move all the way up from Double A to Triple A.
Veer
July 27th, 2012
9:52 am
I think we sign one of Hunter Suzuki or Upton.
If we are able to get Grienke then Hanson becomes expandable and surely other teams would love to have a low cost 15 game winner and thus Hanson will be traded for an OF. Doesn’t have to be a superstar but a solid OF.
our rotation probably be
1) Grienke
2) Hudson
3) Beachy ( when he return)
4)Minor
5) One of Teheran/Delgado whichever is not traded
- Sheets probably signed as insurance policy.
ncscoots
July 27th, 2012
9:53 am
I like any combination of Young, Byrd, and Sizemore (he can be coaxed back) – from a budget standpoint, of course
Heck, might be able to pick those guys up for free Chick-Fil-A lunches.
And as I write that, I wonder if the company’s publicized stand on gay marriage would give us a chance to get rid of the cow. I don’t really care much where the company stands on the issue itself, but I’m willing to be offended by it, if there’s gonna be some upside.
Ray
July 27th, 2012
9:53 am
Its not what should be paid for a 2 month rental. Its what the price will be driven to get Greinke. Don’t forget the Whitesox and Angels. There are 4 teams in on him. Supply and Demand. The demand is high so the price will be high. Expect at least 3 top prospects. Now we will probably never know what the final offer will be from Wren, so with that said the asking price could be just too high for Greinke. The Rangers could be willing to give the Brewers their top prospects and the Brewers may like theirs better than the Braves. Its not about “Wren couldn’t get the deal done.”
Danga
July 27th, 2012
9:53 am
I like any combination of Young, Byrd, and Sizemore
Yikes, yikes, and YIKES.
tony austin
July 27th, 2012
9:53 am
UNCBrave – I just saw that myself. However with, from what I’ve read, the Angels and the Rangers may be after him. If that’s the case I can’t see Milwaukee pulling the trigger yet.
Dadgum.......
July 27th, 2012
9:54 am
If it wasn’t for Lowe we wouldn’t have even been in the playoffs against San Fran. Man pitched lights out for a month then resorted to implode from there on out. We got Lowe in a desperation period when we had to settle for what we could get. Having said that, I would be real hesitant to lock up a top pitcher for 5-6 years and give up the farm. Past results is not an indication of future performance. I like Greinke better than any other pitcher we have been talking about ( King Felix not withstanding). I don’t get the feeling we are as desperate as in the Lowe deal so I don’t see Wren going all-in on Greinke. I see Greinke going to Texas in a rental deal then he will test the FA waters.
I’m starting to warm to the idea of a two month rental pitcher. The Yankees go out and get rental players all the time. Dempster probably won’t resign with Atlanta but could be the player that gets us to the World Series. If that happens I’m not worrying about us resigning him. Time to put our strongest effort to win now. Building for the future is great but you are playing in the present. Wren needs to keep that in mind.
Rock on…..So far Wren has looked terrible in about every trade he’s made. Tex fiasco, Vazquez to NY, and now the Uggla scenario staring us down. Wren needs to pull a rabbit out of the hat. After this year his job may depend on it.
Bravesfaninnc
July 27th, 2012
9:54 am
Mark Bowman @mlbbowman
Padres are asking for a significant return @billsanderslsu I think the Braves surprise everyone and trade for E. Volquez.
ncscoots
July 27th, 2012
9:54 am
all the way up from Double A to Triple A.
“All the way up” is one level. Not sure where else they could have promoted him.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 27th, 2012
9:55 am
Could this mean the Braves got Greinke and Teheran is GONE???
Hmm, interesting thought… I thought maybe he’s taking Redmond’s spot in the rotation, but I guess Delgado is taking that spot… maybe it does mean that a trade is likely…
Veer
July 27th, 2012
9:55 am
How long is Beachy out for? Is he expected to be ready by Spring?
Jeff R
July 27th, 2012
9:56 am
An opportunity value, as it were? I see that as worth an A-ball pitcher that about four people in the forum have ever heard of.
Ah. Could be. But I’d guess that Wren gets some sort of understanding that Greinke’s determined to stay a Brave long term. I think if Greinke comes to Atlanta, Wren will have made the trade with the confidence that Greinke remains in Atlanta.
Me. I’d wait until after the season to pursue Greinke, if I thought that was the best move then.
Danga
July 27th, 2012
9:56 am
Expect at least 3 top prospects
If so, it would be an irresponsible trade.
CrαZy
July 27th, 2012
9:57 am
How long is Beachy out for? Is he expected to be ready by Spring?
Spring of 2014 yes… maybe late season 2013
tony austin
July 27th, 2012
9:57 am
Dadgum – not to nitpick and I’m not defending FW, but I believe JS was the one behind the Tex deal.
Lew
July 27th, 2012
9:59 am
Not so sure I’d consider Volquez a top line starter. He’s having a decent year this year, but (I know he was hurt) it’s his first good year in the last three or four years.
Bravesfaninnc
July 27th, 2012
9:59 am
@ncscoots I meant to say he could been promoted to AA. To jump from Double A to Triple A.that is a big jump
CrαZy
July 27th, 2012
9:59 am
Slimed down Barry Bonds
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/barry-bonds-sports-look-fancy-bicycle-slimmed-down-211832336–mlb.html
Lew
July 27th, 2012
10:00 am
Not to mention that Cincinnati is in first place. Why would they consider trading their pitching at this point?
UNCBrave
July 27th, 2012
10:01 am
Maybe Greinke told the Brewers that he wanted to go to the Braves and make the deal with them?
One can only HOPE
If GILMARTIN was taking Redmond’s spot in the Gwinnett rotation, he would’ve moved up when Redmond was traded. Also, wouldn’t you send JJ down to take that spot??
I think somethings definately UP
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 27th, 2012
10:01 am
Not so sure I’d consider Volquez a top line starter. He’s having a decent year this year, but (I know he was hurt) it’s his first good year in the last three or four years.
Agree… somewhere here suggested that before (like in May), got grief for it…
@Crazy: It’s amazing what getting off of the ‘roids will do…
ncbravesfan90
July 27th, 2012
10:02 am
“Not to mention that Cincinnati is in first place. Why would they consider trading their pitching at this point?”
Volquez is in San Diego now…..
CrαZy
July 27th, 2012
10:03 am
GCL< RookieLeague < A < A+ < AA < AAA < the mythical AAAA < MLB
Jeff R
July 27th, 2012
10:04 am
Expect at least 3 top prospects
If so, it would be an irresponsible trade.
Again, there’s no way of knowing for certain, but the internal pressures on Wren to deliver a post season in ‘12 are likely enormous.
Three top prospects might be an acceptable price to to Wren to secure Greinke and keep him.
Dadgum.......
July 27th, 2012
10:04 am
If you haven’t seen Gilmartin pitch it would be worth the time. Coming out of FSU he already had AA stuff and was earmarked about this time to move to AAA. For me, he will be better than Minor. Losing Teheran to get Greinke is no big deal but not sure Gilmartin going to AAA is an indicator that we are going to get Greinke. I would like it though. One thing for sure though it puts the final stamp on JJ. No place for him to go.
Boonie27
July 27th, 2012
10:04 am
DOB do you have any idea what Wren’s back up plan is if he fails to land Greinke or Shields? Would he go after guys like Wade Davis or Joe Saunders?
CrαZy
July 27th, 2012
10:05 am
Cinn traded Voquez to SD along with a handful of other players for Mat Latos last off season.
TennesseePaul
July 27th, 2012
10:06 am
Not to mention that Cincinnati is in first place. Why would they consider trading their pitching at this point?
They traded him a while ago to the Padres for Mat Latos.
ncscoots
July 27th, 2012
10:06 am
Losing Teheran to get Greinke is no big deal
I cannot stress enough how little I think of this idea. Folks here are probably getting tired of me saying it, I bet.
TennesseePaul
July 27th, 2012
10:07 am
Volquez is flourishing in Petco. Looks like himself on away games.
unbelievable
July 27th, 2012
10:07 am
Veer, Hanson is not going to be traded right now.
CrαZy
July 27th, 2012
10:08 am
Mike Bell@mikebell790
London Games’ secret reveled, since there are no famous British athletes anyone would recognize…Harry Potter to light flame tonight.
TennesseePaul
July 27th, 2012
10:08 am
I cannot stress enough how little I think of this idea. Folks here are probably getting tired of me saying it, I bet.
Perhaps you need to stress it more? Seemed to be the conclusion of Payne with his RBI point, AT with his Uggla point and Robot with his Cox “point”.
ncscoots
July 27th, 2012
10:09 am
Looks like himself on away games.
Park-adjustment has left a scar, has it?
unbelievable
July 27th, 2012
10:09 am
Would he go after guys like Wade Davis or Joe Saunders?
Not if he has intentions on upgrading the rotation and making the playoffs.
Tomahawkin
July 27th, 2012
10:09 am
tony austin
“Imagine this blog if the Braves do sign Greinke for 5 or so years/$100+ million and then he tanks.”
That is EXACTLY Is whats gonna Happen…He will be twice as worse as the Derek Blowe or Mike Hampton!
Wren…Please Dont DO IT!!! I’m On Bended Knees!!!
Tomahawkin
July 27th, 2012
10:10 am
I meant to say: Thats Exactly whats gonna happen!!!
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 27th, 2012
10:10 am
Volquez is putting up just decent numbers in San Diego, gonna be “bad” in ATL….
Veer
July 27th, 2012
10:11 am
Gilmartin could just been a procedural move by the Braves but you see Rosenthal reporting as if he is trying to be the first to break that something is brewing. These guys are battling it amongst themselves to be the first one to report a BREAKING NEWS.
You don’t see Rosenthal reporting that Constanza got called up??? Ken Rosenthal will do anything for “hits”
unbelievable
July 27th, 2012
10:11 am
For me, he will be better than Minor
From scouting reports, he’s Minor lite. His secondary pitches arent as good and his fastball is a few ticks behind. I wouldnt expect more than a backend of the rotation starter there. Lets please not compare him to Glavine.
Danga
July 27th, 2012
10:11 am
I like Greinke a lot. Far more than Scoots does I suspect.
However, this pitching staff has issues that cannot be solved by 2 months of Greinke. These young pitching prospects should be more valuable to the Braves now than they ever have been. I think the Braves do need to add a SP to this team, but I think they need to take a deep breath and count to 10 before pulling the trigger on any of these deals.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 27th, 2012
10:12 am
Looks like himself on away games.
Indeed. 2.84 ERA (12 starts) at Petco, 3.96 on the road (9 starts)
Dadgum.......
July 27th, 2012
10:12 am
I don’t think the Braves have big plans for Beachy returning until possibly Sept ‘13 at the earliest thus our need for a solid #1 starter. Having Beachy as a #2 and say Greinke as #1 would be about perfect. Throw in Hudson in his last year as a #3 and I see a possible World Series favorite.
Veer
July 27th, 2012
10:12 am
I don’t think Braves are that stupid to promote Gilmartin to AAA if they were going to trade for another pitcher because that would give away their poker hand. If really there was a trade brewing then Gilmartin would been promoted after the trade not before the trade.
ncscoots
July 27th, 2012
10:12 am
Perhaps you need to stress it more?
I would hope that you, or another of my blog acquaintances, would give me the figurative pimp-slap should I stray into obession with the subject.
CrαZy
July 27th, 2012
10:13 am
#Braves have promoted their first-round pick in 2011, LHP Sean Gilmartin, to Triple A. Gilmartin was 5-8 with a 3.54 ERA at Double A.
Sweet a new reason to go to Gwinnett games!!
Steve from OH
July 27th, 2012
10:13 am
There is no pending FA pitcher whom I would trade Teheran for, period.
Tomahawkin
July 27th, 2012
10:15 am
CrαZy
July 27th, 2012
10:13 am
#Braves have promoted their first-round pick in 2011, LHP Sean Gilmartin, to Triple A. Gilmartin was 5-8 with a 3.54 ERA at Double A.
“Sweet a new reason to go to Gwinnett games!!”
That’s The Only reason to Go…I live 25 minutes from there on Highway 20 and still have never been…There is no atmosphere there….
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 27th, 2012
10:15 am
Lets please not compare him to Glavine.
Gilmartin seems to be a younger Glavine to me….
Jeff R
July 27th, 2012
10:16 am
Losing Teheran to get Greinke is no big deal
Potentially, it could be a very big deal. Teheran, despite his struggles this season, is still highly touted and may just pitch circles around Greinke in the not too distant future.
And let me back-peddle here a little.
Wren has proven to be a pretty shrewd trader (I think better at trading than free agent signings). Generally, the man has managed to surrender less value than he’s got in return.
Now, I’m not suggesting that he can quite pull that off with the Brewers for Greinke’s services, but he might end up surrendering less than the “three top prospects” referenced earlier.
Efrim
July 27th, 2012
10:18 am
You might quibble over “top end” as a characterization of Delgado and Minor (or even Teheran, if you’re so inclined), but this is why blithely trading those kids without regard to the future is a bad idea.
That doesn’t mean that they are untouchable, but the return for one of them has to be very solid.
Julio Teheran for Zack Greinke would be insane. But Randall Delgado for Ryan Dempster is equally insane, so I won’t put it past Wren.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 27th, 2012
10:19 am
Would you trade for a pitcher in a slump (Shields)
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
COLUMN: Would you trade for a pitcher in an apparent slump? In case of #Rays’ Shields, #Angels’ answer might be yes. http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/tampa-bay-rays-james-shields-interests-los-angeles-angels-despite-struggles-072712
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
July 27th, 2012
10:19 am
Ugh, finally a game tonight! Feels like it’s been forever…
Danga
July 27th, 2012
10:19 am
But Randall Delgado for Ryan Dempster is equally insane
Agreed.
ncbravesfan90
July 27th, 2012
10:19 am
“Julio Teheran for Zack Greinke would be insane”
On Milwaukee’s part
UNCBrave
July 27th, 2012
10:19 am
Efrim,
What about Julio Teheran for Zack Greinke and an extension??
Lew
July 27th, 2012
10:21 am
ncbraves – Guess I missed the move. That makes a bit of difference on his availability.
Actually, he might be a cheap upgrade to the mid/bottom of the rotation – t not a number one or two by any stretch.
Dadgum.......
July 27th, 2012
10:21 am
Scoots….I understand others takes on Gilmartin. Also agree he is probably a 4-5 spot starter. Minor is that as well and will never be a top slot or two starter either. Gilmartin has more upside to me than Minor.
UNCBrave
July 27th, 2012
10:22 am
One things for sure with the Gilmartin promotion…….JURRJENS is gone
Tomahawkin
July 27th, 2012
10:22 am
I’m in the Minority on this but I think we need another reliever as an insurance option…Hopefully we can get a decent one for a bag of cheetos
Gas Can Durbin CANT Be trusted in games that are on the line because his Gas Can Status shows itself, and No one can predict on how Moylan will look like when he comes back
CrαZy
July 27th, 2012
10:22 am
Tomahawkin
I live 5 min from Cool Ray and go to 10-15 games a year… don’t know why but I’ve always loved minor league baseball… could care less about the atmosphere!! I might go to 1 game a year at Turner field because I’d rather watch it at home. Love taking my son to a game and getting home by 10:00.
Efrim
July 27th, 2012
10:23 am
Yeah C’Mon! September callup, maybe?
No. Not at all.
I think Bowman said Gilmartin would spend all of 2013 in Triple-A and I disagree. However, he is not going to be a September callup. I do think he could challenge for the 5th spot in the rotation next spring….
And honestly, that’s Frank Wren’s perfect little plan – Mike Minor and Sean Gilmartin holding down two rotation spots for the Atlanta Braves. Disgusting.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 27th, 2012
10:24 am
One things for sure with the Gilmartin promotion…….JURRJENS is gone
Maybe…. wouldn’t mind it!
CrαZy
July 27th, 2012
10:24 am
Tomahawkin
If I had to bet your either single or don’t have kids?
Because honestly that’s the last time I really cared about an atmosphere at a game.
Tomahawkin
July 27th, 2012
10:24 am
@Crazy
That Ballpark in Gwinnett is in the Middle of Suburbia Mid/Upper Class Neighborhoods, there is nothing to do there and Wild Bills is too far of a Drive…
Tomahawkin
July 27th, 2012
10:26 am
@Crazy
Me Having Kids? Hell Naw! Thanks For Asking
I have an Al Bundy Mantra on Being Married with Children…Ain’t for me!
Efrim
July 27th, 2012
10:26 am
What about Julio Teheran for Zack Greinke and an extension??
I apologize to those of you for my actions today. I am at my boiling point with this trade Teheran for Greinke and sign him to extension garbage. Like they are mutually exclusive…….
THE 100 MILLION YOU GIVE GREINKE IS COMPENSATION FOR THE EXTENSION. TRADING TEHERAN IS ONLY GETTING YOU 2 MONTHS OF THE PLAYER.
That is all.
Lew
July 27th, 2012
10:26 am
crazy – Yep, figured that – just don’t pay much attention to SD.
Tomahawkin
July 27th, 2012
10:27 am
@Crazy
“I live 5 min from Cool Ray and go to 10-15 games a year… don’t know why but I’ve always loved minor league baseball…”
Minor League Games do kick Ass…I have Been to a few In The M (Memphis) and the atmosphere there is just as good as Turner Field, plus the Bars and Clubs on Beale street is walking distance
Efrim
July 27th, 2012
10:28 am
Gilmartin has more upside to me than Minor.
Have you ever seen Gilmartin pitch?
keylargo
July 27th, 2012
10:28 am
Honestly, I don’t understand this thinking. Why should the Brewers get a better package, if Greinke is willing to sign a contract extension with a new club? All the Brewers have to offer is two months of the current contract, that’s it. That’s what you’re trading for. Anything else is between Greinke and his new club.
While I do agree with about 90% of that, I will point out that you get two months of exclusive rights to show off your organization and negotiate a new contract.
Braves/Heat 2012 Champs
July 27th, 2012
10:29 am
Has anyone else heard about the new Clint Eastwood movie where he stars as a Braves scout? Seriously here is the link http://insidemovies.ew.com/2012/07/26/clint-eastwood-trouble-with-the-curve-first-look/
Hillbilly
July 27th, 2012
10:29 am
You.Don’t.Trade.For.An.Extension.
Efrim
July 27th, 2012
10:30 am
Losing Teheran to get Greinke is no big deal
Yeah, trading a pitching prospect ranked #4 overall by Baseball America heading into the 2012 season for 2 months and something like 9 starts of a pitcher isn’t a big deal. Wren is gearing up to be laughed at.
Dadgum.......
July 27th, 2012
10:30 am
Can anyone defend a trade / signing by Wren where the Braves are reaping any rewards to date. Surely there has to be one but nothing comes to mind. Also, one other question, if you are always building for the future how do you ever win in the present? Time for Wren to make a huge statement about winning this year because most of us are sick about the future prospects for the Braves with Wren pulling the trigger.
DAP
July 27th, 2012
10:30 am
lew Not so sure I’d consider Volquez a top line starter.
neither is ryan dempster, but he almost ended up here.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 27th, 2012
10:31 am
And honestly, that’s Frank Wren’s perfect little plan – Mike Minor and Sean Gilmartin holding down two rotation spots for the Atlanta Braves. Disgusting.
Throw in Delgado/Teheran (assuming 1 or both stay), other AAA pitchers to go along with an aging and “banged up” Huddy, an “injured” Hanson, and a recuperating Sheets (maybe), that looks like a great rotation!
That’s why I wouldn’t mind a trade for Greinke…
Efrim
July 27th, 2012
10:31 am
While I do agree with about 90% of that, I will point out that you get two months of exclusive rights to show off your organization and negotiate a new contract.
Name me players that have signed extensions August 1st through September 30th. I can think of one – Carlos Zambrano for five years and 91 million with the Cubs – a team he had spent his entire minor and major league career with.
CrαZy
July 27th, 2012
10:32 am
David O’Brien@ajcbraves
Gwinnett RHP Eric Junge was released yesterday RT @JustinMain: @ajcbraves any idea who he replaces and who replaces him
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 27th, 2012
10:33 am
David O’Brien @ajcbraves
Gwinnett RHP Eric Junge was released yesterday RT @JustinMain: @ajcbraves any idea who he replaces and who replaces him
I’m assuming that’s talking about Gilmartin…. wonder how “bad” Junge was doing
Can anyone defend a trade / signing by Wren where the Braves are reaping any rewards to date.
Michael Bourn….. yeah, that trade sure sucked
Hillbilly
July 27th, 2012
10:33 am
Efrim caught me not refreshing before I post but the point remains:
You don’t tug on Superman’s cape.
You don’t spit into the wind.
You don’t pull the mask off the ol’ Lone Ranger,
And you don’t trade for a ######### extension.
Efrim
July 27th, 2012
10:34 am
scoots – you see that J.R. Graham struck out 8 last night in his 2nd Double-A start?
Lew
July 27th, 2012
10:34 am
Try to convince him AFTER the trade? No freaking way – You don’t trade for him without a 72 hour window to sign him to an extension – if not, forget it. No way you pay the price for just a rental.
ncscoots
July 27th, 2012
10:36 am
you see that J.R. Graham struck out 8 last night in his 2nd Double-A start?
Aw, he probably got ‘em on curveballs.
CrαZy
July 27th, 2012
10:36 am
Minor League Games do kick Ass…I have Been to a few In The M (Memphis) and the atmosphere there is just as good as Turner Field, plus the Bars and Clubs on Beale street is walking distance
Well in all fairness I’ve kinda outgrown the bar scene at this point… I’m only 29, but been marred 10 years and have 2 kids… So I’m thinking more about getting home so the kids don’t drive me nuts the next day!!
Efrim
July 27th, 2012
10:36 am
And you don’t trade for a ######### extension.
Exactly. And you trade for this mysterious negotiationg window of which is nearly never utilized by the player, team or agent.
Steve from OH
July 27th, 2012
10:37 am
What about Julio Teheran for Zack Greinke and an extension??
Oh. My. God.
Efrim
July 27th, 2012
10:38 am
On Milwaukee’s part
No, it would be fantastic and everyone would think this.
unbelievable
July 27th, 2012
10:38 am
Can anyone defend a trade / signing by Wren where the Braves are reaping any rewards to date.
Bourn? nah
Bravofan
July 27th, 2012
10:39 am
DOB said on Twitter that Gwinnett RHP Eric Junge was released yesterday.
unbelievable
July 27th, 2012
10:40 am
Try to convince him AFTER the trade? No freaking way – You don’t trade for him without a 72 hour window to sign him to an extension – if not, forget it. No way you pay the price for just a rental. – Lew
100% correct…which 72 hours right now puts us way to close to the deadline to come away with nothing.
ncbravesfan90
July 27th, 2012
10:43 am
“No, it would be fantastic and everyone would think this.”
So you’re saying it would only take on top prospect to acquire Greinke? Teheran for Greinke straight up? I wish that’s all it would take, Greinke would be starting for us against the Phillies this weekend if that was the case.
Efrim
July 27th, 2012
10:44 am
http://capitolavenueclub.com/?p=7314
The hope isn’t that Gilmartin turns into a Clayton Kershaw, because that simply isn’t the kind of pitcher he is. The hope is that he turns into a Jordan Zimmerman type, that strikes out fewer than 20% of the batters he faces but also limits his walk percentage to about 5%. – Ben Duronio
Ya know, except that Zimmermann touches 95mph and sits comfortably in the 92-94 range – averaging 93.6mph on his fastball, and 86mph on his slider.
Dadgum.......
July 27th, 2012
10:44 am
Efrim……many are already laughing at Wren. Wren holds too many cards close to the vest when he should have played them long ago. The future is unknown. Teheran might be a top pitcher years down the road. Might not. Take your gambles now. The Braves have a shot to get to the World Series with Greinke this year. They have no shot with Teheran. Case closed.
Rock on…..
ncscoots
July 27th, 2012
10:45 am
way to close to the deadline to come away with nothing.
You’re actually not coming away with nothing, if you’ve retained the trade pieces you would have expended in uncompleted trades. You’re just delaying the trades in which they’ll be included.
I understand that folks get antsy, some want the team to get cracking, and so forth. But that’s a bad way to buy anything, from anybody. You can’t make righteous decisions if you get emotional about the purchase.