Uggla’s slide continues; Minor makes some strides

MIAMI – While waiting for Ryan Dempster to approve or veto a trade to the Braves — I think he would have approved it Monday if he’d not been so surprised and perhaps miffed that news of the deal got leaked – let’s go over a few other pertinent matters facing the Braves as they try to end a three-game skid and get as many wins as they can in five games before they have to play again on Monday.

Yes, 0-12 record on Mondays, and 18 total runs scored in those games for the Bravos. Remarkable. The latest loss was Monday, a 2-1 defeat that got interesting in the ninth inning.

The Braves hope to get Dempster to help them reach playoffs. (And maybe he can win a Monday game for them, too....)

The Braves hope to get Dempster to help them reach playoffs. (And maybe he could even win a Monday game for them, too....)

But there isn’t much for me to add about that statistical oddity. Other than, it’s gone from odd to absurd. I mean, the Braves don’t have a losing record on any other day, and are 0-12 on Mondays. Next Monday game for the Braves is in six days against these same Marlins, who beat them 2-1 last night.

Moving on to other matters….

It’s gotten Uggly. The latest Uggla slump, that is. It’s lasted nearly six weeks now, and Braves fans are understandably restless and wondering when the team might get something closer to the performance Uggla had in his years with the Marlins.

The second baseman was traded to the Braves after the 2009 season for Omar Infante and lefty reliever Mike Dunn, and Uggla was given a five-year, $62 million contract extension before he’d played a game for Atlanta. With the notable exceptions of a 33-game hitting streak last season and an early season run this year that helped him win a fan-voted spot on the NL All-Star team, Uggla has struggled a lot in two seasons.

His .215 average is now third-worst in the NL, ahead of Rickie Weeks’ .193 (Weeks is also the only NL hitter with more strikeouts than Uggla, 114-112) and the Mets’ Ike Davis’ .208.

Uggla is 3-for-26 with four walks and 12 strikeouts in his past eight games, which includes his three-hit, four-run, two-walk game against Washington in the 11-inning miracle comeback win Friday. In the other seven of his past eight games, he’s 0-for-23 with two walks and 12 strikeouts.

But this slide began at the end of the first week of June. Specifically, it started the day after his two-homer, five-RBI game against his old Marlins team in Miami on June 5. He went 0-for-7 with four strikeouts in the last two games of that series, and hasn’t stopped reeling since.

In 39 games since that two-homer night in Miami, Uggla has hit .121 with an anemic .181 slugging percentage. Has just two doubles, two homers and 52 strikeouts in 127 at-bats in that stretch, with 27 walks and a .300 OBP.

A few other alarming stats:

– Uggla hit .265 with a .846 OPS (.362 OBP) in 317 games during his last two seasons with the Marlins in 2009-2010. In his first two seasons with the Braves, he’s hit .227 average with a .750 OPS (.326 OBP) in 255 games.

– After striking out once every 3.86 at-bats and homering once every 18 at-bats in his last two seasons with the Marlins, Uggla has struck out once ever 3.45 at-bats and homered every 19.3 at-bats with Braves. If those don’t seem like a lot, project them over 500-600 at-bats and you’ll see those are significant differences.

– Uggla vs. right-handers this season: .226 (46-for-223) with nine homers, 36 walks, 79 strikeouts, .327 OBP, .699 OPS

– When batting with two strikes, Uggla is 20-for-182 (.110) with 36 walks, 112 strikeouts.

In his first two seasons in Atlanta, the Braves haven't gotten the overall production from Uggla that he delivered during his six seasons with the Marlins.

In his first two seasons in Atlanta, the Braves haven't gotten the overall production from Uggla that he delivered during his six seasons with the Marlins.

He’s drawing more walks than ever this season, and that’s obviously a good thing. But Uggla and the Braves will tell you, they didn’t make him the highest-paid second baseman in baseball (at the time his $12.4 million average annual value was the highest for the position) to have him draw walks.

He was brought to Atlanta to hit 30-plus homers and drive in 90-100 runs a year, like he’d done for six seasons in Florida.

Uggla had 36 homers last season, but his RBIs dipped to 82 and his average and OBP fell to .233 and .311, down from his six-year average marks of .263 and .349 with the Marlins including .287/.369 in 2009.

The Braves thought that was the direction he was headed, that .287/.369/.508 season in his last year with the Marlins.

Instead, he went .233/.311/.453 in his first season with the Braves, and is at .215/.350/.371. After never having an OPS below .805 with the Marlins, Uggla had a .764 OPS in his first season with Atlanta and has a .721 OPS this season.

– After hitting .377 with a 1.200 OPS in his 33-game hitting streak through Aug. 13, 2011, Uggla has hit .222 with a .745 OPS in his past 136 games, with 164 strikeouts in 478 at-bats.

– Since the trade at the 2009 GM Meetings, Uggla has hit .227 with 86 extra-base hits (48 homers), a .750 OPS and 128 RBIs in 926 at-bats, while second baseman/utility infielder Infante has hit .280 with 72 extra-base hits (15 homers), a .718 OPS in 907 at-bats.

The already-out-of-the-race Marlins traded Infante and pitcher Anibal Sanchez to Detroit on Tuesday as they began another rebuilding project.

• Minor strides: Although his performance got overshadowed Monday by Josh Johnson’s six innings of one-hit, nine-strikeout dominance, young lefty Mike Minor had a solid outing of his own to continue his recent progress. Here’s what he and other Braves had to say about it.

Minor allowed two runs, six hits and no walks in seven innings, with four strikeouts. He’s 3-3 with a 3.64 ERA and .213 opponents’ average ein past eight starts, after going 2-4 with a 6.98 ERA and .288 opp average in his first 10 starts this season.

“It feels good to give these guys a chance to win every time,” Minor said of his teammates. “I feel like I’ve been a lot better the last couple of starts. I feel like I owe a lot to Roger [McDowell] and [Brian] McCann and just working together, helping me out to get through the struggles.”

• Marlins reboot, version whatever: Imagine if you’d bought season tickets for the Marlins and were all excited about seeing a revamped team with a greatly increased payroll finally playing in a new ballpark with a roof.

Braves manager Fredi Gonzalez was ejected after arguing in the ninth inning when Jason Heyward was called out on the back end of a double play (replays showed Heyward was safe). AP photo.

Braves manager Fredi Gonzalez was ejected after arguing in the ninth inning when Jason Heyward was called out on the back end of a double play (replays showed Heyward was safe). AP photo.

Now we’re a week from the trade deadline and once again they’re waving the figurative white flag and talking about “restructuring” (and offering no refunds that I’m aware of…)

Here’s the story from the Miami Herald.

• Braves will get a starter: I still think it’ll be Dempster, but whether it’s him or not, I’m almost certain the Braves will add a proven starting pitcher before the July 31 non-waiver trade deadline.

I became even more convinced of this after two recent quotes from Chipper Jones.

This was this one after Sunday’s loss at Washington: “We’ve struggled with our consistency because we’ve struggled at the end of our rotation, and you saw it today. It’s a little demoralizing when you’re in a dogfight for the division and you’re constantly fighting from behind.”

Which followed this one nearly two weeks ago: “I’d like to see us get a pitcher,” Jones told AJC columnist Jeff Schultz. “You would be amazed how consistent you play when you’ve got five guys who expect to win every time they walk out there.”

Chipper usually has his thumb on the pulse of team’s plans and potential moves, and I don’t think he’d have said either of those things if he didn’t feel like the Braves were in position to make a move for a starting pitcher.

• Tonight’s matchup: It’s a good one featuring veterans Tim Hudson and Marlins lefty Mark Buehrle, both coming in on good runs.

Hudson is 5-2 with a 2.92 ERA in his past eight starts, and allowed two earned runs or fewer in five of those. The stretch began with his five-hit shutout against the Marlins in Miami on June 5, the game where Uggla hit two homers and drove in five runs in an 11-0 win. That was the third win in as many starts for Hudson against the Marlins.

He’s 12-4 with a 2.76 ERA in 23 career starts against the Marlins, including 3-0 with a 1.16 ERA in his past three. Marlins newcomer Carlos Lee, the former Astros 1B/LF, is 12-for-32 (.375) with a homer and 10 RBIs against Hudson; Austin Kearns is 11-for-33 with a homer against him, and Jose Reyes is 20-for-74 (.270) with two homers.

Buehrle had an 0.94 ERA in a four-start winning streak before he lost Thursday at Chicago, where he gave up four runs in five innings against the Cubs. The lefty is 6-3 with a 2.62 ERA in 10 home starts this season, and allowed two or fewer earned runs in each of his past six.

Buehrle is 3-1 with a 3.81 ERA in four starts against the Braves, and Martin Prado is 3-for-9 with a homer against him.

• Let’s close with a great tune from Elvis Costello off his terrific Imperial Bedroom album. You can hear the tune by clicking here.

Elvis+Costello++The+Attractions

“MAN OUT OF TIME” by Elvis Costello

So this is where he came to hide
When he ran from you
In a private detective’s overcoat
And dirty dead man’s shoes

The pretty things of Knightsbridge
Lying for a minister of state
Is a far cry from the nod and wink
Here at traitor’s gate

‘Cause the high heel he used to be has been ground down
And he listens for the footsteps that would follow him around

To murder my love is a crime
But will you still love
A man out of time

There`s a tuppeny hapenny millionaire
Looking for a fourpenny one
With a tight grip on the short hairs
Of the public imagination

But for his private wife and kids somehow
Real life becomes a rumor
Days of Dutch courage
Just three French letters and a German sense of humor

He`s got a mind like a sewer and a heart like a fridge
He stands to be insulted and he pays for the privilege

To murder my love is a crime
But will you still love
A man out of time

The biggest wheels of industry
Retire sharp and short
And the after dinner overtures
Are nothing but an after thought
Somebody’s creeping in the kitchen
There’s a reputation to be made
Whose nerves are always on a knife`s edge
Who’s up late polishing the blade

Love is always scarpering or cowering or fawning
You drink yourself insensitive and hate yourself in the morning

– David O’Brien, Braves/MIB blog

4,926 comments Add your comment

Woody Woodward

July 24th, 2012
1:01 pm

I’m agin’ it.

Woody Woodward

July 24th, 2012
1:02 pm

He’s too old.

JoshTown

July 24th, 2012
1:04 pm

Sad stats on Uggla. Hope he comes around into some kind of form before October.

Jon

July 24th, 2012
1:04 pm

Trade Uggla. Forget Dempster and go for Greinke.
But whatever they do, they need to hurry and win before we fall too far back in the standings.

phil

July 24th, 2012
1:04 pm

Dumpster has a stinkin beard too….another in a long line of reasons not to get this guy.

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 24th, 2012
1:05 pm

TheOnlyBravesFan
July 24th, 2012
1:04 pm

But we’ve got 2012 fish to fry first.

That’s a lot of fish to fry and eat….

Thanks Chief!

tony austin

July 24th, 2012
1:05 pm

He’s struggled since coming to ATL. That song sounds way too familiar.

Woody Woodward

July 24th, 2012
1:06 pm

A reddish beard to boot.

jharber

July 24th, 2012
1:07 pm

Srry JoshTown, he is what he is worthless. Hugh anchor on this team.

David O'Brien

July 24th, 2012
1:08 pm

Dumpster has a stinkin beard too….another in a long line of reasons not to get this guy. — phil

The I-can’t-grow-a-beard crowd has now been heard from. Thank you.

the truth

July 24th, 2012
1:08 pm

Saw Elvis at The Fox back in 83. F’ing awesome. Hey DOB, the song for next Mondays blog should be “I Don’t Like Mondays” Boomtown Rats.

Efrim

July 24th, 2012
1:09 pm

Diamondbacks owner Ken Kendrick said Monday that it’s a “reasonable assumption” that Justin Upton will remain with the team for the rest of the season.

Reasonable expectations. :)

TennesseePaul

July 24th, 2012
1:09 pm

Thanks for the work DOB!

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 24th, 2012
1:10 pm

If Dempster can get a beard to grow on me, maybe I’ll like the deal ;)

JP

July 24th, 2012
1:10 pm

Wow, Elvis Costello is the MOST overrated musician ever. You name me three good songs he wrote and I’ll give you fifty grand.
He seems to have a hold on the 50 somethings, liberal elite, who probably think gentrification is the downfall of this country

Woody Woodward

July 24th, 2012
1:12 pm

No, Richard Thompson takes the prize for most overrated.

tony austin

July 24th, 2012
1:12 pm

I shave every other week whether I need to or not.

Sad Sack

July 24th, 2012
1:12 pm

You won’t be able to trade Uggla No one would want him at this point

phil

July 24th, 2012
1:12 pm

Beards matter when it comes to WHIP and walk/strikeout ratios and all….

Seriously, nice blog today. And glad to see you use Uggly in there too. I would say it can’t get worse, but obviously it could.

No. 1 Braves Fan

July 24th, 2012
1:13 pm

DOB: Why are my posts awaiting moderation?

Fols

July 24th, 2012
1:14 pm

Great blog……disappointing song choice….if we win on an Elvis Costello day i’ll be shocked.

Uggla stat over-load. Man he’s been something else. Literally…

Woody Woodward

July 24th, 2012
1:14 pm

Maybe Uggla should grow a beard. Or stop shaving his forearms.

Efrim

July 24th, 2012
1:14 pm

17 year old, LHP Luis Merejo with another rough outing in the GCL. Of course, stats down in the complex league are pretty worthless. I think the scouting report I read was a fastball that ran up to 93mph with an above average changeup and some feel for a breaking ball.

Old devil

July 24th, 2012
1:14 pm

I, too dislike the bearded pitchers, (never saw Glavine or Maddux with one). But I especially don’t like Cubs players who have been in a culture of losing environment. Grienke would have been a much better way to go. Just dreamin’…

Jimmy

July 24th, 2012
1:14 pm

We have a 1240 start tomorrow.
So if this Dempster thing is going through, he needs to nod his head and get on a plane to Miami.

I just don’t understand the 20 plus hour gap.

Brian from SC

July 24th, 2012
1:14 pm

Here’s how Dempster would rank among Braves starters in 2012 if the trade happens (not counting Sheets, who’s only had two starts; so basically comparing him to Hudson, Hanson, and Minor)

ERA – 1st
K/9 – 3rd
BB/9 – 1st
K/BB – 1st
HR/9 – 2nd
WHIP – 1st
H/9 – 1st
Opp. BA, OBP, and SLG – 1st
Quality Starts – 1st
IP/start – 1st

Braves Fan in Maine

July 24th, 2012
1:15 pm

thanks for the new bloggage DOB……. I am really getting irritated waiting on a yay or nay for dumpster

Bat Masterson

July 24th, 2012
1:16 pm

Dumpster has a stinkin beard too….another in a long line of reasons not to get this guy. _ phil

I was getting ready to say, at least Dempster has a beard going for him, that’s something, right. Smoltz had a beard and look what he did for the Braves.

phil

July 24th, 2012
1:16 pm

I suspect we could trade Uggla to one of a very few suitors….not sure who would have a need, but if Danny Ferry can unload Joe Johnson, as hopeless as that looked, then Wren could offload Uggly on someone, even if we have to eat a few bucks over the years to make it happen.

His wild inconsistency hurts this team much more than it helps, imho….

If I was looking to do anything at this point, it would be deperately trying to send Uggly on down the line….whether he hits .750 with 50 homers the rest of the year or not.

Woody Woodward

July 24th, 2012
1:17 pm

Just curious how he stacks up against Beachy, Brian. I know it’s not the point, but curious.

Fols

July 24th, 2012
1:17 pm

If I was 35 years old, pitching for the Cubs and received an offer to join a legit playoff race to possibly land a large contract next season…I wouldn’t even have time to grab my toothbrush…

Pace

July 24th, 2012
1:17 pm

As I understand it, with a 10/5 player, there is a 24 hour wait time until the trade is official? So, unless Dempster says yes within the next 20 minutes, he won’t be eligible to pitch tomorrow? Or can the time be waived?

TennesseePaul

July 24th, 2012
1:18 pm

Here’s how Dempster would rank among Braves starters in 2012

It’s really too bad the team didn’t have him when he compiled all those stats. What the Braves are going to get is the pitcher going forward and that could be anything. Could be he reverts back to his average self and looks like a 4.30 ERA guy with a 1.4 WHIP.

Brian from SC

July 24th, 2012
1:18 pm

We don’t know that Dempster is “having trouble deciding” (as one commenter put it). Maybe he’s doing some negotiating of his own with the Cubs. Who knows? I wouldn’t rush to judgment about the process on his end.

ncscoots

July 24th, 2012
1:18 pm

[Costello] seems to have a hold on the 50 somethings, liberal elite, who probably think gentrification is the downfall of this country

Obviously a music Nazi. :-)

Braves Fan in Maine

July 24th, 2012
1:19 pm

DOB what do you think the braves should do for other possible moves to help this team because even if we get dempster we still have hitting issues??

phil

July 24th, 2012
1:19 pm

Bat makes a solid point….

Trading millions of dollars in salaries and so forth, which is what it actually is in the business world, isn’t as simple as go catch a plane. There are a myriad of details to be worked through. If this deal is to happen, obviously this stuff has to be tended to first. Someone leaked this thing way early in the process is my best guess.

Not that I’m in favor of it. I’m not.

TennesseePaul

July 24th, 2012
1:20 pm

with a 10/5 player, there is a 24 hour wait time until the trade is official?

Ichiro was acquired and played pretty quickly… he had 10/5 rights.

BraveOne

July 24th, 2012
1:21 pm

Tell Frank to get Dempster the Hammer costume from the tool race at Turner Field. Dempster wants to be the “Hammer and not the nail” on where he is traded too. Let him be the hammer and give him the costume to wear in order to hammer this deal home.

Pace

July 24th, 2012
1:21 pm

That’s why I was asking – did he waive time?

Fols

July 24th, 2012
1:21 pm

As per twitter, Dempster’s wife worked for the Atlanta Thrashers.

Perhaps he’s taking his time looking at the Winnipeg Goldeyes ball club thinking….what if….

Brian from SC

July 24th, 2012
1:21 pm

Just curious how he stacks up against Beachy, Brian. I know it’s not the point, but curious.

Beachy has him beat by a little in K/9, ERA, and the opponents’ hitting rates. Dempster has fewer walks, fewer homers, better K/BB, and more innings per start.

TennesseePaul

July 24th, 2012
1:21 pm

If this deal does fall through due to Dempster feeling “blindsided” I wonder if any heads roll?

donte080

July 24th, 2012
1:21 pm

I find it interesting so many here are anxious to trade for a 35 year old sub.500 pitcher with a 4.30 career ERA having a career year and yet are so willing to trade away our starting 2B who provides some HR power on a team which lacks HR power?

overrated musciain?

July 24th, 2012
1:22 pm

Richard Thompson? Really? Most think that if he had a better publicity person he would be better known and appreciated than Clapton.
Listen to his early work with his wife Linda
Geez…

Woody Woodward

July 24th, 2012
1:22 pm

Thanks, Brian.

ccrider

July 24th, 2012
1:22 pm

JP, Pay up! Elvis Costello “Pump it Up”, ” Radio Radio” and “What’s so funny about Peace, Love an Understanding”
Oh, and The Song JP is an IDIOT

Jimmy

July 24th, 2012
1:22 pm

Brain – That would be me. Have you ever seen anything like this?

Pace- I hear something like that too. But Ichiro played last night. Don’t know what the rule is. Bet someone on here does though.

Efrim

July 24th, 2012
1:22 pm

Signable goes for Double-A Mississippi tonight.

Wren dreams of a rotation headed by Mike Minor and Sean Gilmartin. Pumping those 89mph fastballs by those #8 and #9 hitters. ;)

Braves Fan in Maine

July 24th, 2012
1:23 pm

I just want to know…….. either way it sounds like we are going to make a strong push for greinke in the off season if he doesnt resign with the brewers!!

abeeewright

July 24th, 2012
1:23 pm

“Lew, July 24th, 2012, 12:20 pm … “Maybe De;gado would be only a number three starter, but he’ll be that nuimber three under control for five more years”

Right now, Delgado isn’t even the number 5 in a Braves rotation that includes Jair “I’m done but pay me anyway” Jurrjens.

He might grow into a #3 in a couple of years. Right about when he starts getting expensive.

I agree that Delgado is still more valuable than 2 months of Dempster. But, a #3 starter can be found if necessary when the time comes.

Right now, Dempster is a proven #3 who is pitching like a #1.

Brian from SC

July 24th, 2012
1:23 pm

Jimmy…I don’t know. The Braves don’t swing trades for 10/5 guys very often, right?

Around The Horn

July 24th, 2012
1:23 pm

A TERRIBLE TRADE FRANK

So now Frank Wren has decided to mortgage the Braves future for a “going on” 36 year old pitcher.

You gave up far too much in Delgado Frank.

I’ve not been against Wren as a GM up until this point, but there’s little wisdom in giving up such a promising young starter for a two month rental.

You gave up so much for so little!

A far better move – to ensure the Braves more wins this year – would have been simply to replace Fredi as manager.

You must have thought Frank, as Ken Rosenthal alluded to earlier this season, that your job is on the line if the team doesn’t win this year.

Was the pressure on because of your past foolishness Frank?

You readily got fooled in hiring Fredi Gonzalez, who’s clearly incompetent as a major league manager – and is probably the worst tactical manager in the majors.

You got fooled in giving current NL strikeout leader Dan Uggla a 12.4 million dollar per year contract, the highest contract ever paid to a second baseman.

You got fooled with signing D. Lowe to “a high rent district” Scott Boras styled contract, which you’re eating 10 million dollars of this year.

You also got fooled with K. Kawakami, who spent his last year languishing in the minors – at 7 million a year.

So no, it won’t be for either you or the Braves, as the old Who song suggests: “WE WON’T GET FOOLED AGAIN!”

For Frank, you JUST GOT FOOLED AGAIN!

This is a John Smoltz for Doyle Alexander kind of a trade in reverse!

In fact over the weekend the Washington broadcasters commented that Delgado reminded them somewhat of Pedro Martinez, while discussing Delgado’s potential.

And Theo Epstein is laughing all the way toward rebuilding the Cubs with a high quality Braves prospect – just as the Rangers once did with four high quality Braves prospects.

To think I was lauding you for showing some restraint this winter – by not trading away young prospects.

Who should you have traded to get Dempster Frank? Someone like a Todd Redmond – maybe combined with a lesser prospect.

But you already traded Redmond away to get Janish, didn’t you Frank, when you realistically could have used Pastornicky** and Wilson (who won’t be out long) for six weeks.

**(After all Frank, you thought Pastornicky was qualified enough defensively to start the season.)

It’s a TERRIBLE TRADE FRANK, JUST TERRIBLE!!

ncscoots

July 24th, 2012
1:24 pm

If this deal does fall through due to Dempster feeling “blindsided” I wonder if any heads roll?

Wouldn’t the “blindside” have come from the Cubs org? If so, I don’t care who gets fired. :-)

Efrim

July 24th, 2012
1:24 pm

If this deal does fall through due to Dempster feeling “blindsided” I wonder if any heads roll?

Whose?

JC Boscan III

July 24th, 2012
1:24 pm

Dempster alone will not fix our ills – not enough to get to a World Series. Hanson’s sliding, Sheets is our 2nd most reliable starter (after 2 starts), we can’t hit lefties, our pinch-hitting is pathetic, and Uggla’s getting worse as the season progresses…….. One move alone will not fix the Braves. Will Wren be aggressive enough to address all of our weaknesses, or just patch the inner tube with Dempster (if they can complete the deal…)…???!

dap01

July 24th, 2012
1:24 pm

I would rather have traded for Infante or a good outfielder. With another player, we could sit Uggla and play Prado at 2nd until Uggla gets a clue.

Right now he sucks.

We have the best 1-2 hitters in the majors and our big hitters outside of Chipper have not delivered.

Forget Dempster, let him stay in that looser clubhouse at Wrigly.

Let’s continue to rebuild, we are a long ways away.

Woody Woodward

July 24th, 2012
1:24 pm

The guy’s self indulgent as a guitarist and uninteresting as a songwriter. Saw him a few years ago and it was the longest night of my life. Geez, yourself.

O.J.

July 24th, 2012
1:24 pm

Reminds me of the whole Ken Griffey Jr rumors.

Fols

July 24th, 2012
1:24 pm

“willing to trade away our starting 2B who provides some HR power on a team which lacks HR power?”

Some….Bourn has ’some’, we pay Uggla to have LOTS.

Arkansas Transplant

July 24th, 2012
1:25 pm

Our window for trading Uggla this season has closed. Detroit would have been a suitor had they not gotten Infante.

Efrim

July 24th, 2012
1:25 pm

Gotta imagine it’s the Cubs who will be heated if they don’t get Delgado for Dempster. Cubs fans should be doing backflips right now. Braves traded 2 months of Mark Teixeira and got Casey Kotchman and Stephen Marek. And the Braves had two picks coming to them and that’s still all they got. Just awful.

Arkansas Transplant

July 24th, 2012
1:26 pm

“willing to trade away our starting 2B who provides some HR power on a team which lacks HR power?”

Exactly where is this power I’m hearing about?

ncscoots

July 24th, 2012
1:26 pm

This is a John Smoltz for Doyle Alexander kind of a trade in reverse…broadcasters commented that Delgado reminded them somewhat of Pedro Martinez.

Pardon me, I gotta go get my high-waders, ’cause it’s getting deep in here.

Randall Delgado as John Smoltz/Pedro Martinez. Yowsah.

mountain_jim

July 24th, 2012
1:27 pm

Wish it was Hanson and Jurrjens being traded, not Delgado. I am tired of watching these slow-working junk-ballers on the mound for the Braves.

phil

July 24th, 2012
1:27 pm

Can we trade manager FG for Cub manager Sveum?

Now that one I support!

Although I will say that watching Fredi chew the idiot 1B ump out last night made me proud. He does far too little of that for my liking though. Especially when his normally calm demeanor seems to result in more close calls going against rather than for us….

Is there a stat on that? :-)

abeeewright

July 24th, 2012
1:27 pm

My take on the laz diaz crap-call last night …

It was closer in slo-mo than it looked live, but Heyward was clearly safe. Assuming Chipper still hits the single in the next AB, you’re looking at 1st and 3rd with one out and a run in.

Tie run comes in on the next batter, maybe.

Whether Braves win it in extras is moot. But, that was a huge missed call.

Give Fredi his props for chewing on Diaz. That’s for all those folks who don’t think Fredi ever shows any fire.

coach

July 24th, 2012
1:27 pm

Braves have traded P Delgado, P Minor, 2B Uggla, 3B Francisco and OF Castanza to Brewers for P Grenkie, OF Braun and 3B Ramirez

Efrim

July 24th, 2012
1:27 pm

Well the Braves are 23 hours from tomorrow’s game. I’m guessing Dempster starts Friday vs. the Phils.

Hanson’s shoulder won’t get the rest needed.

Vacillating Screen Name

July 24th, 2012
1:27 pm

“He seems to have a hold on the 50 somethings, liberal elite, who probably think gentrification is the downfall of this country”

Hey JP. Suck on it! You obviously contribute to the “other” large deficit our country is experiencing.

Critical thinking. You only know to repeat what you heard from someone who actually has a brain.

BravePack(FreeFan)

July 24th, 2012
1:28 pm

Here’s an idea for sh!ts and giggles…how about next Monday game DOB doesn’t even mention any Monday records or stats and we see what happens?

TennesseePaul

July 24th, 2012
1:28 pm

Whose?

Who ever it was that called Bowman.

Efrim

July 24th, 2012
1:28 pm

I am tired of watching these slow-working junk-ballers on the mound for the Braves.

What exactly is a “junk-baller”?

abeeewright

July 24th, 2012
1:29 pm

“Our window for trading Uggla this season has closed.”

I’m pretty sure that window never opened.

phil

July 24th, 2012
1:29 pm

Heads should roll….

If for no other than reason than just because, of course.

stevie zero

July 24th, 2012
1:29 pm

does anyone have the common sense to tell fuggla to stop swinging so f@#$ing hard?? i mean what is he trying to prove, other than he’s inadequate in some way….. youre killing us, dude. 12 mil a year. Aye

Efrim

July 24th, 2012
1:29 pm

Who ever it was that called Bowman.

Oh. Yeah, I could see that.

TennesseePaul

July 24th, 2012
1:30 pm

…come from the Cubs org?

I’d imagine they’d be bummed about losing out on Delgado…

TennesseePaul

July 24th, 2012
1:30 pm

Oh. Yeah, I could see that.

They should probably fire him anyway simply for talking to Bowman.

donte080

July 24th, 2012
1:31 pm

He hit 36 HRs last year…..got hot right about the time the noise level got loud in here last season….

Efrim

July 24th, 2012
1:31 pm

Dempster Foundation ‏@RyanDempsterFDN
Nothing official to report. You will be the 1st to know. Thnx to all my fans for the support #RD46 50 minutes ago

It really could be an extension or at the very least, he wants some sort of compensation from the Cubs to waive it.

Vacillating Screen Name

July 24th, 2012
1:31 pm

Delgado reminds me of the Colon kid the Braves traded to … who was it? The Tigers? A few years back. He played in the futures game. He had all kind of potential. Plus fastball, plus breaking stuff. Played in the futures game. Loads of accolades and predictions of greatness.

Now I can’t even really remember his name. Colon?

AZBravoFan

July 24th, 2012
1:31 pm

Has Chipper talked to Dempster at all, done any lobbying? Or is that not allowed?

Billy Beaneater

July 24th, 2012
1:31 pm

Sorry ccrider but Nick Lowe wrote ‘Peace Love and Understanding’. Insert ‘Watching the Detectives’ instead.

Braves Fan in Maine

July 24th, 2012
1:32 pm

I am so beside my self……. this deal goes from being finalized to being 50-50, to being waiting on dempster…… it appears to me this could be a bigger deal than what we first thought……. maybe soriano back in the deal or reed johnson

Capt.Mudd

July 24th, 2012
1:33 pm

A true, non-fictional piece….reading it was a bit difficult; I really like Dan Uggla. The content regarding Uggla really exposed statistically, how inept he has been {especially the past six wks.}. Let’s just trust (his) history and assume we are witnessing a climb not so much a decent since he will be a Brave for a few more seasons. IMO and as many bloggers appear to: think–it will be sooner than later to witness a rise in his stats. Thanks for the new blog–CR.

phil

July 24th, 2012
1:33 pm

I’m for dumping Uggly just for financial reasons over the next three years…I don’t particularly care what we get for the guy. I’ll take 2-3 minor leagurers that walk upright and can breathe….

He kills us much more than he helps.

See? He just struck out again!

Efrim

July 24th, 2012
1:33 pm

Kevin Goldstein ‏@Kevin_Goldstein
Not trade prospects. RT @tpgMets: @Kevin_Goldstein What do you think the #Mets should try to do w/the roster over the next week?

Kevin Goldstein ‏@Kevin_Goldstein
Lost you after first four words. RT @Zac_Zielinski: @Kevin_Goldstein If TEX trades Profar, do you still see Andrus leaving down the road?

One of the better reads on twitter, BP’s Kevin Goldstein.

Halbert

July 24th, 2012
1:33 pm

The scary part about Uggla is his total inability to make adjustments to try to at least slow the slide towards Mendoza. I mean, yes, they pay him to hit home runs and drive in runs, but spending a few days hitting balls back up the middle and going to right field for some singles and doubles would still help the team and, hey, just might get his confidence and swing back on track. This is two years now where for a large part of the season he has been a total zero out there. For what the Braves are paying him that just can’t happen.

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 24th, 2012
1:34 pm

Fire Mark Bowman and his source… ;)

ncscoots

July 24th, 2012
1:34 pm

Now I can’t even really remember his name. Colon?

Roman Colon? That guy?

Brian from SC

July 24th, 2012
1:34 pm

Rosenthal reports that Dempster is waiting for the Cubs to strike a deal with the Dodgers. He apparently much prefers them to Atlanta.

bobbymahlon

July 24th, 2012
1:34 pm

I hope Dempster is not pulling a Furcal on us so he can go to the Dodgers. All Wren talks about is how we need a power right hand hitter so he brings up a punch and judy left hand hitter. I don’t care if Urnesto Mejia is on the 40 man roster or not let him pinch hit and play a little first base and give Freeman a rest once and awhile and see if he can play his old position left field, he can’t be worse than Hinski.

Efrim

July 24th, 2012
1:34 pm

Now I can’t even really remember his name. Colon?

Delgado is a lot better than Roman Colon. Not even close. Colon had no control and very little command.

TennesseePaul

July 24th, 2012
1:35 pm

Delgado reminds me of the Colon kid the Braves traded

You are speaking of Roman Colon. He along with Zach Minor were traded to the Tigers for Farnsworth.

Colon couldn’t throw anything but heat from what I recall. He got lit up in the majors. I recall the reports about them asking how he succeeded in the minors and it was “he threw his fastball by everybody.” Not long after that he was traded.

phil

July 24th, 2012
1:35 pm

Dempster Foundation ‏@RyanDempsterFDN
Nothing official to report. You will be the 1st to know. Thnx to all my fans for the support #RD46 50 minutes ago
**************
If that’s actually Dumpster, then clearly it’s no longer hanging on him alone…he’s given his okay….it’s details or other players involvement issues.

Nick

July 24th, 2012
1:35 pm

If Uggla isn’t hitting here then why would anyone else want him? The same can be said for JJ.

The best thing we can do is be patient and hope he bust out of it with a streak, like he did last year. You can’t come out of a slump on the bench. The offense isn’t the problem with this team, so staying with him is the best option at this point. It may be wise to look at other options in the offseason, but somehow I still think he winds up with 30+ homers (he always has). The lack of RBI’s can be absorbed by J-Hey’s improved offense.

Brian from SC

July 24th, 2012
1:35 pm

Ray

July 24th, 2012
1:35 pm

I doubt if the braves were/are considering trading uggla. So do yourself a favor and the rest of us, stop playing fantasy gm and talking about trading him. Also, if the Braves trade delgado for dempster, how is THAT mortgaging the future? he is not the only “prospect.” The other aspect he is showing he simply is not ready, and may not be ready next year either.

tony austin

July 24th, 2012
1:35 pm

I fell pretty certain I won’t be the first to post this:

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal

Sources: Dempster does not want to go to #Braves – at least not yet. http://on-msn.com/MUJrN7

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