Braves to face Nats, awaiting questions re: weather, Dempster

(Staff writer Carroll Rogers is filling in for David O’Brien this series.)

Washington – It’s your Braves-Nats correspondent here, reporting from an overcast nation’s capital where we have a few balls up in air today – weather issues, four games scheduled in three days against the first-place Washington Nationals, and a trade possibility.

From what I was told this morning, the Braves are still in the mix for Ryan Dempster of the Cubs as a possible addition to their rotation. The Cubs have set a goal of trying to deal him before he starts tonight in St. Louis, or at the latest by his next start Wednesday. Cubs writers have said the team has lined up a couple of backup possibilities to pitch in Dempster’s place tonight if they are able to pull off a trade.

Could Dempster be switching uniforms soon?

Could Dempster be switching uniforms soon?

Reports indicate this morning that the Dodgers, who are believed to be front runners for Dempster, weren’t offering what the Cubs were looking for at first blush, so perhaps there’s an opening there for the Braves, Nationals or Tigers, other teams believed to be in pursuit as well.

I’m not sure what the Braves would offer to get Dempster, but it wouldn’t surprise me if the Cubs covet left-hander Mike Minor. He struck out 12 batters against them back in August of 2010 and has won each of his four starts against them, including a quality start on July 5, allowing three runs in six innings.

So the Braves would have to decide how aggressively to go after a player who is viewed as a rental for the stretch run. Dempster is a free agent after the season. That said, he also has the best ERA in the majors at 1.86, has gone five straight starts and 33 innings without giving up a run, has an established relationship with both general manager Frank Wren and manager Fredi Gonzalez from their days with the Marlins, has indicated in reports that he would like to play in Atlanta, and has ties through his charity work to the city of Atlanta.

I don’t know Dempster well personally, but I will say he made one of the biggest impressions on me a ballplayer ever has. I was in the Cubs clubhouse one day during spring training in 2004, there to do a story about Greg Maddux in his first spring after leaving the Braves.

I was waiting around for Maddux, not knowing anyone, and feeling kind of dumb, when up walks this player who starts asking me who I was and what I was working on. He actually introduced himself, “Hi, I’m Ryan Dempster.” Absolutely as nice as he could be. He went out of his way to make me feel comfortable in an unfamiliar setting. Something I won’t forget.

Fredi tells a story about Dempster when he was coaching third for the Braves one day in Chicago and the grounds crew is out raking the infield in their white jumpsuits. A guy in a jumpsuit is raking around third base and bumping into Fredi, and he’s like “What the heck?” Turns out it’s Dempster, totally messing with him.

Rain, rain

The forecast in Washington is calling for 100 percent chance of rain from 3 p.m. to 6 p.m. today, then 80 percent from 7-10 p.m. We’ve already got a day-night doubleheader scheduled for tomorrow to make up the rain out our last trip here on June 1.

The Braves do return one more time this season for a three-game series on August 20-22, but the rub there is that it’s the first part of a three-city trip that includes four games in San Francisco and three in San Diego. So that would be complicated too. Perhaps there’s a mutual off day in there somewhere where a makeup could be played. Or perhaps we’ll miraculously get a window somewhere and get the game played.

Braves vs. Strasburg

Tommy Hanson is scheduled to take on Stephen Strasburg, a guy the Braves are getting to know fairly well now. Strasburg has made 35 starts in his career, and five of them have been against the Braves.

He has taken three of his eight career losses to the Braves. He’s 16-8 with a 2.60 ERA overall, 2-3 with a 4.26 ERA against the Braves. He’s won two out of three against the Braves this year though, while allowing seven earned runs in 15 innings. I think the Braves saw him at his absolute nastiest up here on June 2, when he threw seven shutout innings, struck out nine, and walked none, while hitting his spots with his 99 mph fastball, 90-91 mph changeup and upper 80s breaking ball.

Strasburg left his June 30 start vs. Braves with heat-related issues

Strasburg left his June 30 start vs. Braves with heat-related issues

Strasburg’s only loss to the Braves this season came when he had to leave a June 30 start at Turner Field after three innings with heat-related issues on a day with temps in the triple digits. Don’t think that sat well with him.

It’s been fairly well publicized (ahem) that the Nationals plan to shut down their ace at the discretion of GM Mike Rizzo at some point before he logs more innings than they deem prodigious for a young pitcher in his first full season back from “Tommy John” and who has never pitched more than 123 or so innings in a season.

Rizzo hasn’t said it’ll be right at 160 innings, but the way it projects it looks like the Braves could face Strasburg twice more – this series and that August series.

Hanson, meanwhile, gave up back-to-back home runs to Steve Lombardozzi and Bryce Harper in his last start at Nats Park on June 3 but gave up nothing more in seven innings of a 3-2 win over Gio Gonzalez.

Eye on Nats roster

The Nationals just activated former closer Drew Storen from the disabled list Thursday for the first time all season. He responded with a scoreless ninth inning. He had surgery in April to remove bone chips from his elbow. Seems he’s arrived just in time for the Nats, with Tyler Clippard showing a little vulnerability with a blown save Tuesday night and giving up two homers on Wednesday.

The Nats designated outfielder Rick Ankiel for assignment to make room for Storen. The former Brave was hitting .228 with five home runs and 15 RBIs. He managed to do some big things against the Braves though.

Big picture

The Braves are 2-6 against the Nationals this season and come in 3 ½ games back in the NL East. With four games scheduled over these three days, they could leave here at best one-half game up in first place, or at worst, 7 ½ games back. There’s a lot at stake here, especially considering with two wild cards this year guaranteed of nothing more than a one-game playoff, the division is that much more important again.

“Last year, I would have taken the play-in game but you don’t want to be in a position to use your No. 1 starter in a play-in game,” Gonzalez told our Chris Vivlamore when asked about it this week. “You may not even get that opportunity. The way it lines up, your fifth guy might have to pitch that play-in game. The division [is most important], which it should be.”

And on this weekend series: “This is a chance to get really, really close. There is still a long way to go. We still have some hurdles to clear.”

Braves lineup:

1. Michael Bourn CF

2. Martin Prado LF

3. Jason Heyward RF

4. Chipper Jones 3B

5. Freddie Freeman 1B

6. Brian McCann C

7. Dan Uggla 2B

8. Paul Janish SS

9. Tommy Hanson P

4,463 comments Add your comment

Gustopher

July 20th, 2012
1:12 pm

Brian from SC

July 20th, 2012
1:14 pm

The Braves aren’t going to win the division this weekend, but they could really boost their chances of losing it with a bad series. Still a long ways to go, but the schedule eases up some starting next week.

Venice Jim

July 20th, 2012
1:14 pm

Thanks, Carroll!

Memphis

July 20th, 2012
1:15 pm

Is it me or does DOB not cover as many Braves games as he use to?

flange1

July 20th, 2012
1:15 pm

Thanks for the new blog CR!

jeffrey d

July 20th, 2012
1:18 pm

Thanks Carroll!

Gustopher

July 20th, 2012
1:20 pm

Great blog Carroll Let’s keep our fingers crossed for tonights game. Sorry to hear about Rick though.

Do or do not, there is no try

No. 1 Braves Fan

July 20th, 2012
1:21 pm

As Larry Munson would say “Braves need to hunker down”.

JT Grace

July 20th, 2012
1:22 pm

The Braves are OUT OF THEIR MINDS if they even are remotely considering trading Mike Minor for 2 months of Ryan Dempster.

Zac in Tempe

July 20th, 2012
1:22 pm

Why are teams so influenced by player’s success against them? I presume they have the resources to watch every start of a player they want, since I have those resources and am just a fan.

Packere Ed

July 20th, 2012
1:22 pm

The Braves have the best everyday lineup of hitters in the National League (and they will get better) and the best middle relief and bullpen in the National League.

If the Braves had any money and an owner that would want to win it all, they could acquire one Ace Starting Pitcher (Zack G) and win it all this year and be competive for many years to come.

Braves need to expand payroll to $105,000,000 now! Get an Ace!

Can Of Corn

July 20th, 2012
1:23 pm

JUST “RUN HIM OUT THERE” FREDI

You really do have to wonder if Fredi has much real baseball knowledge. For most of the time it seems he doesn’t have a clue.

Case in point. I read DOB’S previous blog this morning where David asked this question of Fredi. Note Fredi’s typical response.

David writes:

“I asked manager Fredi Gonzalez about it again last night after the game, about what could be done and if they’ll continue to let him try to hit his way out of it.

“Right now, he is having a tough July. The good thing going here is he has some history of coming out of it and mental toughness. We’ll get through it with him … We’ll keep running him out there and keep playing him.” ” — End quote.

We’ll keep running him out there.

Just keep running him out there.

That’s my solution.

That’s the Fredi solution!

Fredi, there are actually other things that you can do BESIDE JUST RUNNING HIM OUT THERE!

How about helping him understand what’s wrong with his hitting mechanics — for one?

Or giving him some time at Gwinnett to clear his head and work on his mechanics?

Can we get a manager Frank, who actually knows what he’s doing?

ACE

July 20th, 2012
1:23 pm

any chance of sending this Miami connection back to Florida?

Jerry

July 20th, 2012
1:24 pm

Just a thought, but if Liberty has authorized Wren to spend on a big contract, why does it have to be a pitcher? I would much rather they put together a package to get David Wright. Then move Chipper to the bench to upgrade that sore spot. If that were to happen, I could live with Sheets, Hudson, Hanson, Jurrjens, and Minor.

phil

July 20th, 2012
1:25 pm

Well, Can, I’m no baseball genius, but I suspect someone, somewhere is, in fact, trying to work with Uggly on those awful mechanics of his….

jeffrey d

July 20th, 2012
1:25 pm

Eeyore – you shouldn’t keep using a pronoun without first introducing the subject

jeffrey d

July 20th, 2012
1:25 pm

Also, nice new name

nolakid21

July 20th, 2012
1:26 pm

Lol I would not listen to this lady if you put a gun to my head. The most incorrect information I have ever heard. Ryan Dempster will go to the Dodgers you can book it. Why would a team with a tighter budget that has been taken to the cleaners on a rental trade in previous years, give up a LHP with a good ammount of starts in the MLB that is still learning? C’mon lady get it together. Just like JJ had a few more notches of velocity on his pitches…. ya right.

ACE

July 20th, 2012
1:26 pm

Well put Can of Corn. Watch out the Fredi Koolaid drinkers will soon be jumping to his defense.

phil

July 20th, 2012
1:27 pm

Jerry, with all due respect, we’re not going to bench Chipper….

Or Uggla
Or Heyward, Freeman, Prado, Bourn, McCann or….well, maybe we banish Yanish at some point soon…

but you get the idea.

jeffrey d

July 20th, 2012
1:27 pm

Now you’re agreeing with yourself. I think you need a new obsession

jeffrey q

July 20th, 2012
1:28 pm

hm, very good point, jeffrey d

phil

July 20th, 2012
1:29 pm

nolakid21 – Look, Dipster….don’t come around here dumping on Carroll…

Now get back to watching judge judy.

cricket

July 20th, 2012
1:29 pm

looks like new blog is infected by troll-a-thon

ACE

July 20th, 2012
1:29 pm

Thanks for yoru support Jeffrey.

Venice Jim

July 20th, 2012
1:29 pm

Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS
#nationals said trying hard on dempster. #braves in, & #tigers may be, too. 1 gm still thinks #dodgers still favorite tho

jeffrey r

July 20th, 2012
1:30 pm

Rick

July 20th, 2012
1:30 pm

Can of Corn, how do you know they aren’t working with Uggla on his mechanics? The impression I have gotten is that Greg Walker is a very hands on hitting coach. Just because Fredi doesn’t explain every detail in a post game quote to the media, doesn’t mean other things aren’t going on.

ACE

July 20th, 2012
1:30 pm

Don’t say anything about Fredi Uggla, Chipper, DOB or any other reporter for the AJC and these koolaid drinkers will be happy.

jeffrey d

July 20th, 2012
1:31 pm

Thanks for yoru support Jeffrey.

D or Q?

jeffrey d

July 20th, 2012
1:31 pm

And don’t say the same thing over and over and over or you’ll look crazy

Nattering Nabob

July 20th, 2012
1:32 pm

why do you think the mets would part with their best player in the middle of a pennant race

phil

July 20th, 2012
1:32 pm

Someone with some sense, please….

Is acquiring Dumpster, either as a rental or for several more years, a decent gamble?

ACE

July 20th, 2012
1:32 pm

Fredi doesn’t explain anything in detail. Unless you include cap tipping and running him out there.

Rick

July 20th, 2012
1:32 pm

nolakid, they would trade Minor because they are trying to win now, obviously. Whether it’s the right decision or not is at this point opinion and we won’t know until it plays out.

Nattering Nabob

July 20th, 2012
1:33 pm

that trade could end up being this year’s smoltz-alexander trade

phil

July 20th, 2012
1:34 pm

Carroll is obviously an exceedingly nice person. And she does an outstanding job. Besides, she once worked in Macon. Senselessly bashing her is uncalled for….

MikeInFl

July 20th, 2012
1:34 pm

So the Brewers have offered Greinke at least 5 years/$100 mil, maybe more, according to Heyman. So much for us signing him for $16 mil/year, or whatever…

JoshTown

July 20th, 2012
1:35 pm

Thanks Carroll! Here’s hoping for a good series and gettin some games in. Go Braves!

Jerry

July 20th, 2012
1:36 pm

phil,

I understand playing Chipper, but again, we all know Chipper is gonna have his days off and a lot of those. Personally I’m not concerned that much about Wright this year as much as I just want him after this year. I know it’s not gonna happen, but I would like it more than any pitcher.

jeffrey d

July 20th, 2012
1:36 pm

All managers tip caps in postgame quotes. Except Ozzie Guillen, but nobody likes him

ACE

July 20th, 2012
1:36 pm

Jeffrey don’t ask don’t tell.

Jerry

July 20th, 2012
1:38 pm

Someone with some sense, please….

Is acquiring Dumpster, either as a rental or for several more years, a decent gamble?

A lot of people thought signing Lowe was a decent gamble. We all see how that turned out.

ACE

July 20th, 2012
1:39 pm

They could send Fredi down to AAA to clear his head but what would be the point.

MikeInFl

July 20th, 2012
1:39 pm

Is acquiring Dumpster, either as a rental or for several more years, a decent gamble?

Don’t know. I rented a dumpster when I renovated my kitchen and baths, and it worked out pretty good. If that’s any help…

No. 1 Braves Fan

July 20th, 2012
1:40 pm

ACE has problems. Anyone who consistently talks as bad as he does about someone else (Fredi in this case) needs help. Bitterness or whatever his reasons are bad for his health.

WrentchintheMix

July 20th, 2012
1:41 pm

I read somewhere we were looking at Anibal Sanchez….any thoughts?

ACE

July 20th, 2012
1:42 pm

Thanks for your support No. 1. Have another glass of koolaid. Maybe you can get the same flavor that Larry Parrish did.

phil

July 20th, 2012
1:43 pm

Thank ya, Mike…

I think I’ll just toss the refuse in the neighbor’s yard at night while he’s asleep.

Puma

July 20th, 2012
1:43 pm

I don’t think Carroll was suggesting a Minor for Dempster trade, she was just saying she was unsure the Braves would do that trade…chill people

jeffrey d

July 20th, 2012
1:44 pm

Maybe you can get the same flavor that Larry Parrish did.

He said it! It’s like a sitcom character using his catch phrase

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClnSMCdw6E8

jeffrey d

July 20th, 2012
1:45 pm

Now we just need the softball questions comment to complete the trifecta

ACE

July 20th, 2012
1:46 pm

That would be Dynomite for you Jeffrey.

ACE

July 20th, 2012
1:47 pm

Softball was the league Fredi played in. It wasn’t the majors.

George

July 20th, 2012
1:48 pm

Thanks CARROLL, I can only hope we get the game in so DHers do not pile up.

ACE

July 20th, 2012
1:49 pm

Get down with your bad self Jeffrey.

haggard

July 20th, 2012
1:49 pm

Thanks for the scoop, Carroll!

George

July 20th, 2012
1:50 pm

Some folks think I am bad, but ACE is just wow.

Hi it's me Coach Freddie

July 20th, 2012
1:50 pm

PLEASE DO NOT TRADE MINOR!!!!

ACE

July 20th, 2012
1:50 pm

Jeffrey doesn’t think that cap tipping and running him out there are catch phrases.

Arkansas Transplant

July 20th, 2012
1:51 pm

Here’s to hoping they get the game in tonight!

Alaska Braves Fan

July 20th, 2012
1:51 pm

Can of Corn: Both players and managers in professional baseball work constantly on the game. They’re careful about details, and though Fredi may choose words like “. . . run him out there . . . .” that doesn’t mean that he and Uggla aren’t working hard to improve the situation. It’s not as though Uggla doesn’t have a long track record.

But, CoC, do you really think Fredi is going to call YOU up to let you know how it’s going? Do you think he’s going to betray the confidences between him and Uggla by saying too much in public? Think it over. Also, with the investment we have in Uggla, and the performance he has given in the past, it would be quite foolish to give up on him.

The Dempster trade is worth while only if we get a great bargain or some sort of guarantee beyond this year. Who doesn’t want the guy with the best ERA? Nonetheless, we all know how badly those short-term rentals can turn out. The real question is, what can the Braves realistically afford?

Ahhh! If only we had a magic baseball wand!

ABF

ACE

July 20th, 2012
1:51 pm

Thanks George, WOW is the nicest thing I have been called on this blog.

Arkansas Transplant

July 20th, 2012
1:52 pm

Minor for Demspter would be a huge mistake.

ACE

July 20th, 2012
1:53 pm

ABF you mean betray him like he did pastornicky?

DAP

July 20th, 2012
1:53 pm

i prefer the james shields rumors.

No. 1 Braves Fan

July 20th, 2012
1:54 pm

ACE: I really don`t care for any flavor of koolaid. I do care about the Atlanta Braves which includes anyone associated with the organization. Also, you have a right to not care about Fredi or anyone else therein. My concern is that you go out of your way in every post to say negative things about him which we already have heard many times from you. It would be a nice gesture on you part to just take a day off about Fredi and post something nice or good about something else.

Jeff R

July 20th, 2012
1:54 pm

Dempster sounds like a nice guy and he’s been effective lately, but is he worth Minor for two months?

George

July 20th, 2012
1:54 pm

I did suggest bringing our AAA MGR BRUNDAGE up here to MGR BRAVES rest of season.

eskippy

July 20th, 2012
1:54 pm

If the Braves let Washington get Dempster, that will be a disaster. Bench help is needed desperately.

ACE

July 20th, 2012
1:55 pm

DOB says Fredi has a nice Harley.

Jeff R

July 20th, 2012
1:55 pm

Minor’s making a lot progress through his struggles. The kid is a very good pitcher and, I think, his upsides make him valuable moving forward. Not saying Minor is untouchable, but for a two-month rental?

jeffrey d

July 20th, 2012
1:56 pm

No, George, I actually think you edge out ACE

Disgusted

July 20th, 2012
1:56 pm

“A lot of people thought signing Lowe was a decent gamble. We all see how that turned out.”

At the time, having Lowe was not a bad idea though it was clearly an overpay. His L.A. record was good over 4 yrs.

Given what the options were that winter it was understandable. Wren was trying to get the Braves relevant again and knew it was not going to work with a pitching staff of Jo Jo, Charlie Morton and James Parr. What he had was not good enough.

Say what you want about Lowe but he did give them 31 wins and over 190 IP in 2009 and 10. Kawakami, well that was an aggressive gamble that did not work at all.

At least Wren did not get Oliver Perez.

The Mc Louth deal looked great at the time but it did not work at all. Hindsight is always 20/20.

I like Wren, for what he has had to work with, he has been a solid GM and the system is solid. Wren also has been smart in being stubborn not giving up certain kids who are doing it now.

ACE

July 20th, 2012
1:56 pm

Rocket Wheeler would also be a good choice to replace Fredi.

haggard

July 20th, 2012
1:57 pm

latchkeykid21

Carroll would be an asset anywhere she chose to use her talents as a journalist. We’re lucky she graces our pages.

Jeff R

July 20th, 2012
1:57 pm

It’s not names that best describe you ACE. It’s you in your own little words.

Jbailz

July 20th, 2012
1:57 pm

My two cents – Jerry you need to remember that for several years Lowe was the best pitcher on this staff, especially in big games and he ate a lot of innings.

That said I don’t want to see Minor gone for 2 months of Dempster an I don’t think they’ll do that. I think they’ll go after Dempster if they think he will stay for the future, which he may since he has ties to Atlanta.

Anibal Sanchez?? Seriously? Only if we get him for a bag of balls. Already used balls…

nolakid21

July 20th, 2012
1:58 pm

It is not bashing a writer. She gets paid for this and should take the time to do her research and give correct information, same with DOB.

Arkansas Transplant

July 20th, 2012
1:58 pm

“A lot of people thought signing Lowe was a decent gamble. We all see how that turned out.” – Disgusted

I know someone that didn’t.

ACE

July 20th, 2012
1:58 pm

Thanks Jeffrey, I think.

Disgusted

July 20th, 2012
1:58 pm

I agree with Jeff R. — Minor has battled back from adversity, the way he has gone of late this kid will be good.

No great but solid mid rotation lefty that most MLB teams will covet. Can he be a 200 IP and 12 to 15 win guy? Maybe.

George

July 20th, 2012
1:59 pm

ACE

July 20th, 2012
1:55 pm
DOB says Fredi has a nice Harley.
********************************
FREDI should take a long ride on it and get lost.

Arkansas Transplant

July 20th, 2012
1:59 pm

Actually if the Braves were to make a move for a new manager.. I wouldn’t mind Brett Butler.

Venice Jim

July 20th, 2012
1:59 pm

Have another glass of koolaid. Maybe you can get the same flavor that Larry Parrish did.

Once again, ACE disparaging the memory of the late Congressman Ryan by making despicable references to mass murder, today of all days. What a nice guy he is…

ACE

July 20th, 2012
2:00 pm

watch out Nola. The koolaid drinkers will be after you if you dare disagree with anyone from the AJC or Fredi.

tony austin

July 20th, 2012
2:00 pm

Keep Minor, trade Delgado if the price is right. Keep running Uggla out there, maybe get Dempster, no on Garza and Lirano and I’m on the fence about Grienke.

On the other hand, you have different fingers.

Alaska Braves Fan

July 20th, 2012
2:00 pm

ACE: Now, you make a good point. When it became apparent that Pastornicky wasn’t adequate for the SS job, and that Simmons’ abilities were far superior, Wren and Fredi made the change. One reason they made the change is that they had an option, and another is that Pastornicky’s very short record was not good.

To me, what they did smacks of competent management, not betrayal. If you choose to play professional sports, you have to beat out the guys waiting behind you, and you have to continue to produce. With a long track record, you’ll get much more consideration; Pastornicky doesn’t have that kind of history.

If you’re sensitive to “betrayal,” ACE, look around MLB, and you’ll see folks going up and down the ladder frequently. Today, for example, the Nats “betrayed” Rick Ankiel. Why? Two reasons, at least: He hasn’t produced this year, and his history is very spotty.

I suppose my main thoughts center around keeping a balanced view of these things. You have one way of seeing it, and I another. I will say, I try to avoid extreme and nasty statements about the people I’m hoping will produce a playoff season for the Braves. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot!

ABF

haggard

July 20th, 2012
2:01 pm

Okay, work calls….Hope we can get this one in. Go Braves!

Chipmunk

July 20th, 2012
2:01 pm

Giving up Minor for a short term rental would be a huge mistake.

ACE

July 20th, 2012
2:01 pm

VJ when all else fails I can count on you for support.

cabravesfan

July 20th, 2012
2:01 pm

nolakid21-

So provide the link that says the Dodgers have traded for Dempster. Not that they are the favorites, because you said “Ryan Dempster will go to the Dodgers you can book it.” If Carroll’s info is wrong (and all she said was the Braves were still in the mix, which other baseball folks have said too), show us your proof.

jeffrey d

July 20th, 2012
2:01 pm

Keep in mind that the Braves had a rotation anchored by Jorge Campillo and Buddy Carlyle. Lowe was coming off a good season and we needed a good starter.

Venice Jim

July 20th, 2012
2:02 pm

The koolaid drinkers will be after you if you dare disagree with anyone from the AJC or Fredi.

ACE will continue to spew his hatred because he has no historical perspective as to how pathetically pathetic he is…

Venice Jim

July 20th, 2012
2:03 pm

Just pointing out your hatred of all that is good and decent in your anti-American diatribes… :)

Disgusted

July 20th, 2012
2:03 pm

It was a bold controversial move Arkansas Transplant but that is what GM’s are paid to do.

I would rather see a GM make a move like than than try to sell to the fan base that we are building around the likes of Jo Jo, Boyer and Francoeur.

Wren saw we had second rate talent on that 2008 team and he jettisoned most of it. Those Baby Braves were fools gold save for Mc Cann and they got gone before long.

Wren tries, he is not always right but when he can he will pursue and talk. From what I hear Frank is out trying, even if he gets no one he is out there trying to move to get better, that is all you can ask.

cricket

July 20th, 2012
2:03 pm

Is acquiring Dumpster, either as a rental or for several more years, a decent gamble?

I don’t think it is a gamble at all if we can get Dempster and sign him to a 2 or (more likely) 3-yr extension. He will be just like Huddy, should give similar / slightly better production and stabilize the rotation. Huddy, Hanson, Dempster, Beachy and Delgado / Minor / Teheran (whoever is left) sounds pretty good with Beachy coming back after next year’s ASG. I would be willing to give up 1 of the 3 if 3-yr extension is worked out.

Venice Jim

July 20th, 2012
2:03 pm

Jon Morosi ‏@jonmorosi
#Cubs dialogue on Ryan Dempster remains heaviest with #Dodgers. But there’s time for another team to put together an overwhelming offer.

jeffrey d

July 20th, 2012
2:04 pm

The koolaid drinkers will be after you if you dare disagree with anyone from the AJC or Fredi.

No that’s not it. It’s that your entire schtick is based on

1) Saying Fredi is bad
2) Saying Fredi “betrayed” Pastornicky
3) Bring up Larry Parrish

Disgusted

July 20th, 2012
2:06 pm

Oh yea, Buddy Carlysle and Campillo, forgot about them

I do think that Frank hung on to Francoeur and Jo Jo Reybust too long. What they ever saw in Jo Jo I will never get, but he is the worst Braves SP in their ATL history. Hands down.

I really despised and disrespected Jo Jo as a pitcher, he could not do the job in MLB. No sense of mental approach whatsoever.

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