Someone needs to inform Hudson that the Giants WON 2 out of 3 games while Melky was “strutting around”. He apparently thinks winning one game(barely) means taking the series. Wow, this is the attitude of the Braves right now and shows why they are regarded as “wimps”. This is why I have no respect for him anymore.
Nats are too good. Swallowing to man pride just typing that, but they are. Up and down they find ways to win. Got to be their manager instilling this fight and attitude in them.
Francisely Bueno…now THAT is what having guts is about. Dude got tossed from his major league debut for going head-shot on Alfonso Soriano, and never saw a major league league field again for 4 years, until getting two games in for KC last month.
Nobody wants to murder anybody. It’s a man sport and men are fighters by nature. Most are anyways …
It’s been my experience that the folks who yell loudest for some blood tend to make sure it isn’t their own being spilled. Ken Caminiti had a name for them, I believe.
That’s the way it ought to be for many here. That’s why when Uggla or Heyward or Prado don’t perform well in a week or a month relative to their season or career numbers
Seriously shaun, you include Uggla in that sentence?
Sure. There are quite a few major league secondbasemen who are hitting worse than Uggla this season and who provide little to no defensive value but who are still adequate everyday major league secondbasemen.
Darwin Barney is your typical major league starting secondbaseman this year. Not your replacement-level secondbaseman, not your bottom-of-the-barrel starter, not even merely your below-average starter that barely gets the team by. He’s the average starting major league secondbaseman for 2012.
But Freddi didn’t. He doesn’t put the blame on Fredi, he said the players decided to forego plunking Cabrera but we all would have felt better had Melktoad had been plunked.
Hello everyone! Great win today, and where is Bitchell? Are the Braves a bad team to you now, or you just going to wait until the Braves lose to bitch. Tell us your story……
Yes you go beat them show them, but you also show some nastiness and pride by plunking these losers. Knock their asses out of the season with one right on the hand. Fu** ‘em. Scared of retaliation? Please, bring it!
Anger management, ChattTownBrian. Yeah, I know, you eat nails for breakfast and spit them out all day long. You pump iron and have season tickets to Big Time Wrestling… and really believe what you see. Got it.
Nats are too good. Swallowing to man pride just typing that, but they are. Up and down they find ways to win. Got to be their manager instilling this fight and attitude in them.
Cabrera in shape and playing well and it is a contract year? Yes, David, as you well said, it is most assuredly a “coincidence.” In the same way it will be a “coincidence” that after some team signs Cabrera to a long-term, high-paying deal that he will suddenly discover the same restaurants and meals he used to get 25 pounds overweight while playing for the Yankees and Braves — both of whom let him go!
Cabrera is having a great season, but he’s also showing why he has had so many unproductive seasons, well below his potential. A player so classless as to make obscene gestures toward his crotch while on the field, and taunting opponent players and the crowd as he did in this three-game series lack respect for the game. And players who lack respect for the game also tend to lack respect for themselves.
Little wonder why Bobby Cox made no effort to retain him. Melky was a walking poster boy for the “Bobby doesn’t like that” retort often given to minor league players who need reminding how to respect the game!
iTiSi, he should’ve hit him with a heater. I agree. I wouldn’t all Hudson a wimp though. McCann is the furthest thing from a wimp as well. You catch all those games in the heat/humidity of ATL summers and still be an all star hitter. They just have the Braves way in their soul.
Havana Fats says the players decided not to do anything about Melky…hmmm…pretty clear indicator of why his managerial style is so poor, the players run the team, not him…
Melky doesn’t understand that his physical condition while here in Atlanta was of his own making and that along with his performance got him traded, looks and sounds as though he would rather be in Atlanta than San Fran, just can’t accept the facts.
Havana Fats says the players decided not to do anything about Melky…hmmm…pretty clear indicator of why his managerial style is so poor, the players run the team, not him…
You guys could just accept that most of us who wanted to see Melky take one off the backside didn’t care more about whacking him than winning the game. It’s just as knee jerk to make that stupid assumption as it is for one of “us” to knee jerk that Hudson must be spineless for not throwing at the guy.
I personally want to win every single game. Period. Even when it’s impossible and 50 plus losses are a guarantee each and every year. Doesn’t mean i have to like it. Doesn’t mean I’m miserable or unhappy either.
Today, i wanted both. A nice win and a big ole bruise somewhere on do do head….
well obviously not, since they didn’t, but this team doesn’t show a ton of what Pete Rose brought to the park on a daily basis, with the exception of Ugly Dan, though it hasn’t exactly helped his lack of talent out very much…
I would like to see a Giant take on Heyward. Heyward could take on five Giants. Maybe some one could beam Melky from Bull Pen tomorrow, or have melky take a steroid test?
Efrim, I haven’t made any “reasonable expectations” comments.
Everyone gives me a hard time about that, but what do people truly expect from a 20-212-year-old in the majors, even a great prospect? I would say a 116 OPS+ in 1,429 PA is well within the range of those reasonable expectations. But there is so much background BS that surrounds Heyward that people don’t realize it. Say his name was Smason Smeyward and looked completely different and didn’t have all the BS surrounding him, and folks would say, “a 116 OPS+ in 1,429 PA from a great defensive rightfielder at ages 20-22 is pretty darn good.”
But, what about a player like Uggla, if you want to stay away from Heyward talk? Say you had a secondbaseman that was traded to your favorite team going in to his age 31 season, and had posted a 117 OPS+ in 3,372 career PA in his ages 26-30 seasons. A 103 OPS+ in 1,045 PA in his ages 31-32 seasons would certainly be in the range of reasonable expectations.
But hey, let’s ignore all that and read in to what they do in small sample sizes or be unnecessarily critical because they are merely doing about what we should have expected them to do. Or better yet, let’s ignore performance and simply go with some statistics that were passed along by our fathers and grandfathers and were on the backs of our baseball cards when we were kids.
Today, i wanted both. A nice win and a big ole bruise somewhere on do do head….
phil, there were posters here who explicitly said that they didn’t care about the game, score, or anything else, as long as the guy got hit. Now, I find you to be a reasonable man, but, some of these other jokers are too dumb to let breed.
SF is generally a class organization. I’m quite sure our fans started this by taunting Melky. But he deserved it. As I recall, it was not merely that he played poorly here, but he had some huge lapses in effort defensively and on the basepaths. He seemed like he did not give a crap, unlike Uggla, who at least plays hard all the time. Then Melky is in his contract year and plays like Ted Williams. That’s the disconnect that has Braves fans pissed off. And, he’s an idiot for not ignoring taunting, which 95% of all players get at some time or another. I don’t recall Chipper embarrassing Atlanta when Mets fans gave him grief.
So, Melky is an *ss. SF is a good organization. Somebody needs to have a talk with him. He will always be an *ss, but someone needs to tell him to keep it under wraps while he is wearing a SF uniform. After he gets a huge deal, will he have another year like this? Maybe. I would bet none of my money on it.
Hitting Melky could have led to injuries and suspensions and could very well have cost the Braves wins. Not hitting him just irks some fans. Let’s see, what should a major league team do?
I haven’t posted since I signed off with the hopes that you’d play well against the Nats. I came back to check and see if someone was still stealing my screen name. Bummer – why would someone do that?
Shaun, out of Uggla’s 36 home runs last year, how many were solo shots? All your advanced statistics do not change the fact that Uggla is a millstone around the offense’s neck (with the noteable exception of one month last season) and has been since he got here. There are lengthy stretches of time when he is as much of a guaranteed out as the pitcher’s spot in the lineup. Justify all you want, but I watch most of the games and the guy has hurt us offensively. Give me a scrappy, tough out with little or no power ANY DAY over him…
Doesn’t matter if a player is streaky or more consistent, all that matters is the overall numbers the player produces over a full season in my opinion.
There are plenty of players who put up comparable numbers over a full year all while either being consistent or streaky.
He warned us that he had some device that’d let him come down. It was like at the end of the movie when the defeated villian hints that he’ll return just in time for a sequel
Today, i wanted both. A nice win and a big ole bruise somewhere on do do head….
phil, there were posters here who explicitly said that they didn’t care about the game, score, or anything else, as long as the guy got hit. Now, I find you to be a reasonable man, but, some of these other jokers are too dumb to let breed.
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I don’t doubt it for a second….I wasn’t able to read some of the earlier drivel as I was in a deposition all morning.
Nolie’s buds on several talk radio shows were demanding bloody retribution on the way in to work this morning. Not where i got my idea of a slight bruise to the Melky ribs, but I’m sure such talk inflamed plenty of listeners!
Lynchburg SS Nick Ahmed continues his hit streak – 2 for 3 with a HR and 2 BB’s.
He’s definitely a more highly rated prospect than Salcedo, imo. I got heat for that on another blog where some folks think Ed is going to be an above average regular at 3rd base. I do not see this.
Shaun, show me some stats from your typical major league starting secondbaseman from this year that have stayed in the lineup of their given club over a span of 20 games hitting below .100 and over a span of 30 games hitting a buck fifteen. Just curious if there’s one out there and please name them.
Don’t allow today’s game to fool you. As I said the past several days – as did Hudson today, Hanson and JJ (although JJ looks like he tweaked his knee Monday night covering 1st; the jury may be out on him) will revert to pre-All Star game form. The long layoff was certainly unkind to the four pitchers, who require constant reps to maintain mechanics at an optimal level. Minor surprised me last night; the layoff did not affect him, and he is starting to figure some things out about himself – including having confidence in his fastball, and not falling in love with his off-speed pitches too much.
This team is the same team from the past 4-5 seasons, essentially. When it matters most, this team cannot hit consistently. They will get shut down by Washington this wekend; whether they win the series or not will be predicated by the Braves’ pitching. They MIGHT blow up next week and come up with a spate of runs, like the mirage this past weekend against the Mets. Don’t allow that smoke-and-mirrors act to fool you, as it did in previous seasons.
To waste young resources at this time on another starter is at best a stupid and idiotic endeavor; at worst… well, those words will not post on this blog. Even the second coming of Glavine-Maddux-Smoltz cannot save this team because when late August and early September rolls around, the lack of punch and consistency from Braves’ hitters will doom this team, as well as any chance at a Wild Card.
You cannot win if you cannot score runs. Three hits today? Monday’s uninspired effort against a struggling pitcher? Pathetic.
Agreed. But I will say that back on Planet Earth, those three were never considered our three best position prospects by anyone who knows anything. It’s Bethancourt, Lipka, Ahmed and Salcedo, imho.
I don’t know if he is actually Dentz, but there is a guy who has been here and blown up a number of times, gone crazy on religion and other subjects and Nich was that guy.I thought so for awhile though no positive because of some of the totally inappropriate things he would blurt out, but this time re reigned them back in several times. But from what he said and did last night there is no doubt in my mind that it was him. Like I said I am not positive that is the original Paul Lentz though, but I am certain Nick was the guy I was thinking of. I guess most missed his blow up, but it was very much in the same vein as previous ones
BravesFanSince80’s, I honestly have no idea how many Uggla homers were solo shots. I’m not sure what that has to do with much of anything regarding Uggla, since he can’t really force players to be on base for him every time he hits a homerun. Oh, yeah, “RBI guys” are supposed to have those magical powers.
There is absolutely nothing objective that indicates Uggla has cost the Braves offensively.
If you are going to dock him for stretches when he performed poorly, you also need to give him a lot of credit for when he performed extremely well. The folks who focus on small samples don’t get this. It’s not all about what a player does during his hottest stretches and coldest stretches. It’s about what he’s worth over the long haul of a season or during his time with your team. No player’s performance is linear.
Uggla’s highest highs have made up for his lowest lows enough to allow him to be a more than adequate big league starting secondbaseman. Is he the Uggla he was in his best seasons with the Marlins? No. But we should never have expected him to be that guy. The man was 31 his first game with the Braves. Now all of the sudden some of us want to be outraged because he’s not Robinson Cano?
Given Chipper’s comments after Wednesday’s game that Melky’s actions would not be forgotten, any knockdown pitch by Hudson thrown at Melky would have surely resulted in being tossed, a fine, and a suspension. The Braves could not afford to lose Hudson for essentially two games. Thus, Hudson and the Braves played it smart and cool, unlike several ludicrous fans who clearly desired retribution no matter the cost.
whether he is Lentz or not, he is the guy who has totally gone off on here a number of times b4. worked with all them kinda crazies too much not to have an excellent feel for them
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iTiSi
July 19th, 2012
3:33 pm
Someone needs to inform Hudson that the Giants WON 2 out of 3 games while Melky was “strutting around”. He apparently thinks winning one game(barely) means taking the series. Wow, this is the attitude of the Braves right now and shows why they are regarded as “wimps”. This is why I have no respect for him anymore.
ChattTownBrian
July 19th, 2012
3:34 pm
Nats are too good. Swallowing to man pride just typing that, but they are. Up and down they find ways to win. Got to be their manager instilling this fight and attitude in them.
Hillbilly
July 19th, 2012
3:34 pm
Francisely Bueno…now THAT is what having guts is about. Dude got tossed from his major league debut for going head-shot on Alfonso Soriano, and never saw a major league league field again for 4 years, until getting two games in for KC last month.
Grit. Balls. Spine. DILLIGAF. He’s got it all.
jeffrey d
July 19th, 2012
3:34 pm
And you guys said the stupid comment competition was over
Arkansas Transplant
July 19th, 2012
3:36 pm
I just figured I’d let him do all the leg work.
Efrim
July 19th, 2012
3:36 pm
If he manages to not get any more XBH for the entire…bleepin’…month, then that’s something else. You think that’s gonna happen?
Boy, I certainly started a nice long conversation on Heyward’s July.
I see TenneseePaul made the comments I’d expect from him.
And I see that ncscoots made the responses I’d expect from him.
Oh….and there is Shaun, making those comments about “reasonable expectations”.
All I know is that I love me some Jason Heyward….
And gee whiz, look at what ESPN has added to their regular stats page?!?!?!?!?
http://espn.go.com/mlb/team/stats/batting/_/name/atl/cat/offWARBR/atlanta-braves
ncscoots
July 19th, 2012
3:36 pm
Nobody wants to murder anybody. It’s a man sport and men are fighters by nature. Most are anyways …
It’s been my experience that the folks who yell loudest for some blood tend to make sure it isn’t their own being spilled. Ken Caminiti had a name for them, I believe.
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
July 19th, 2012
3:36 pm
Uggla’s bat belongs in LF, his glove has been there since 2011. So when it happens….and I told ya’ll so, the move will be about two years too late.
Shaun
July 19th, 2012
3:37 pm
That’s the way it ought to be for many here. That’s why when Uggla or Heyward or Prado don’t perform well in a week or a month relative to their season or career numbers
Seriously shaun, you include Uggla in that sentence?
Sure. There are quite a few major league secondbasemen who are hitting worse than Uggla this season and who provide little to no defensive value but who are still adequate everyday major league secondbasemen.
Darwin Barney is your typical major league starting secondbaseman this year. Not your replacement-level secondbaseman, not your bottom-of-the-barrel starter, not even merely your below-average starter that barely gets the team by. He’s the average starting major league secondbaseman for 2012.
Chernoff Said Plunk Melky
July 19th, 2012
3:37 pm
But Freddi didn’t. He doesn’t put the blame on Fredi, he said the players decided to forego plunking Cabrera but we all would have felt better had Melktoad had been plunked.
phil
July 19th, 2012
3:37 pm
I prefer a sweep of the lowly Nationals….
Ward
July 19th, 2012
3:37 pm
Hello everyone! Great win today, and where is Bitchell? Are the Braves a bad team to you now, or you just going to wait until the Braves lose to bitch. Tell us your story……
Jeff R
July 19th, 2012
3:38 pm
Yes you go beat them show them, but you also show some nastiness and pride by plunking these losers. Knock their asses out of the season with one right on the hand. Fu** ‘em. Scared of retaliation? Please, bring it!
Anger management, ChattTownBrian. Yeah, I know, you eat nails for breakfast and spit them out all day long. You pump iron and have season tickets to Big Time Wrestling… and really believe what you see. Got it.
jeffrey d
July 19th, 2012
3:38 pm
Nats are too good. Swallowing to man pride just typing that, but they are. Up and down they find ways to win. Got to be their manager instilling this fight and attitude in them.
Nats just lost
Ken Stallings
July 19th, 2012
3:39 pm
Cabrera in shape and playing well and it is a contract year? Yes, David, as you well said, it is most assuredly a “coincidence.” In the same way it will be a “coincidence” that after some team signs Cabrera to a long-term, high-paying deal that he will suddenly discover the same restaurants and meals he used to get 25 pounds overweight while playing for the Yankees and Braves — both of whom let him go!
Cabrera is having a great season, but he’s also showing why he has had so many unproductive seasons, well below his potential. A player so classless as to make obscene gestures toward his crotch while on the field, and taunting opponent players and the crowd as he did in this three-game series lack respect for the game. And players who lack respect for the game also tend to lack respect for themselves.
Little wonder why Bobby Cox made no effort to retain him. Melky was a walking poster boy for the “Bobby doesn’t like that” retort often given to minor league players who need reminding how to respect the game!
ChattTownBrian
July 19th, 2012
3:39 pm
iTiSi, he should’ve hit him with a heater. I agree. I wouldn’t all Hudson a wimp though. McCann is the furthest thing from a wimp as well. You catch all those games in the heat/humidity of ATL summers and still be an all star hitter. They just have the Braves way in their soul.
Everyone Keep Calm
July 19th, 2012
3:40 pm
We know the Braves would have lost a fight to the Giants, they have very little power.
The Giants are the classiest organization in MLB and Melky deserved the All-Star MVP.
The Braves meanwhile are soft.
Venice Jim
July 19th, 2012
3:40 pm
Mets win…
Ward
July 19th, 2012
3:41 pm
Chatt – Melky + steriods = his great season.
Hmmmm
July 19th, 2012
3:42 pm
“Nats just lost”
which doesn’t = not good though
Jeff R
July 19th, 2012
3:43 pm
ChattTownBrian, chugging Red Bulls this afternoon?
nolie
July 19th, 2012
3:43 pm
I guess I should not be amazed that some of you care more about hitting someone than about actually winning a game…cab
no you shouldn’t. that would be the idiotic football mentality crowd, who are too stupid to recognize that the games are copmpletely different
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
July 19th, 2012
3:44 pm
Ok, it’s really a final this time……
Mets 9 Nats 5 we pick up a game. But man does the Mets bullpen suck arse.
jeffrey d
July 19th, 2012
3:45 pm
which doesn’t = not good though
Ok. But when someone says
“Up and down they find ways to win. Got to be their manager instilling this fight and attitude in them.”
And 5 minutes later they lose by 4, you kinda have to brig it up.
Murph
July 19th, 2012
3:45 pm
Ken Caminiti had a name for them, I believe.
He wasn’t a very nice man.
ncscoots
July 19th, 2012
3:46 pm
He wasn’t a very nice man.
Maybe not. But he was succinct.
Jeff R
July 19th, 2012
3:46 pm
Nice. Gnats lose.
BravesFanSince80's
July 19th, 2012
3:46 pm
Havana Fats says the players decided not to do anything about Melky…hmmm…pretty clear indicator of why his managerial style is so poor, the players run the team, not him…
alanfalcon
July 19th, 2012
3:47 pm
Melky doesn’t understand that his physical condition while here in Atlanta was of his own making and that along with his performance got him traded, looks and sounds as though he would rather be in Atlanta than San Fran, just can’t accept the facts.
jeffrey d
July 19th, 2012
3:47 pm
players run the team, not him…
So….wouldn’t they have hit Melky then?
Bat Masterson
July 19th, 2012
3:47 pm
Ah, the hell with Melky. The next thing you know he’ll be getting a tattoo on his face and bitting someones ear off.
Jeff R
July 19th, 2012
3:48 pm
Havana Fats says the players decided not to do anything about Melky…hmmm…pretty clear indicator of why his managerial style is so poor, the players run the team, not him…
Fixated and dumb is no way to go through life.
phil
July 19th, 2012
3:48 pm
You guys could just accept that most of us who wanted to see Melky take one off the backside didn’t care more about whacking him than winning the game. It’s just as knee jerk to make that stupid assumption as it is for one of “us” to knee jerk that Hudson must be spineless for not throwing at the guy.
I personally want to win every single game. Period. Even when it’s impossible and 50 plus losses are a guarantee each and every year. Doesn’t mean i have to like it. Doesn’t mean I’m miserable or unhappy either.
Today, i wanted both. A nice win and a big ole bruise somewhere on do do head….
BravesFanSince80's
July 19th, 2012
3:50 pm
well obviously not, since they didn’t, but this team doesn’t show a ton of what Pete Rose brought to the park on a daily basis, with the exception of Ugly Dan, though it hasn’t exactly helped his lack of talent out very much…
Ward
July 19th, 2012
3:50 pm
I would like to see a Giant take on Heyward. Heyward could take on five Giants. Maybe some one could beam Melky from Bull Pen tomorrow, or have melky take a steroid test?
flange1
July 19th, 2012
3:50 pm
Again, very happy with a win and a nice game from Huddy.
Shaun
July 19th, 2012
3:51 pm
Efrim, I haven’t made any “reasonable expectations” comments.
Everyone gives me a hard time about that, but what do people truly expect from a 20-212-year-old in the majors, even a great prospect? I would say a 116 OPS+ in 1,429 PA is well within the range of those reasonable expectations. But there is so much background BS that surrounds Heyward that people don’t realize it. Say his name was Smason Smeyward and looked completely different and didn’t have all the BS surrounding him, and folks would say, “a 116 OPS+ in 1,429 PA from a great defensive rightfielder at ages 20-22 is pretty darn good.”
But, what about a player like Uggla, if you want to stay away from Heyward talk? Say you had a secondbaseman that was traded to your favorite team going in to his age 31 season, and had posted a 117 OPS+ in 3,372 career PA in his ages 26-30 seasons. A 103 OPS+ in 1,045 PA in his ages 31-32 seasons would certainly be in the range of reasonable expectations.
But hey, let’s ignore all that and read in to what they do in small sample sizes or be unnecessarily critical because they are merely doing about what we should have expected them to do. Or better yet, let’s ignore performance and simply go with some statistics that were passed along by our fathers and grandfathers and were on the backs of our baseball cards when we were kids.
Ward
July 19th, 2012
3:51 pm
Wait until Melkys’ last at bat tomorrow. There’s a plan…..
phil
July 19th, 2012
3:51 pm
I’m open to the notion, however, that not hitting Melky with a high hard one was taking the high road.
It is, I guess….but I still don’t have to be thrilled with it.
ncscoots
July 19th, 2012
3:51 pm
Today, i wanted both. A nice win and a big ole bruise somewhere on do do head….
phil, there were posters here who explicitly said that they didn’t care about the game, score, or anything else, as long as the guy got hit. Now, I find you to be a reasonable man, but, some of these other jokers are too dumb to let breed.
Melky
July 19th, 2012
3:52 pm
I am glad that I am in San Francisco near my hero Barry Bonds. It is amazing how much my game has improved since I started taking Barry’s vitamins.
BravesFanSince80's
July 19th, 2012
3:52 pm
Phil@3:48, completely agree and well said…
nolie
July 19th, 2012
3:53 pm
Hey! Hey! Hey, hey, hey!
Macho, macho man (macho man)
I’ve got to be, a macho man
Macho, macho man
I’ve got to be a macho! Ow
old man
July 19th, 2012
3:53 pm
SF is generally a class organization. I’m quite sure our fans started this by taunting Melky. But he deserved it. As I recall, it was not merely that he played poorly here, but he had some huge lapses in effort defensively and on the basepaths. He seemed like he did not give a crap, unlike Uggla, who at least plays hard all the time. Then Melky is in his contract year and plays like Ted Williams. That’s the disconnect that has Braves fans pissed off. And, he’s an idiot for not ignoring taunting, which 95% of all players get at some time or another. I don’t recall Chipper embarrassing Atlanta when Mets fans gave him grief.
So, Melky is an *ss. SF is a good organization. Somebody needs to have a talk with him. He will always be an *ss, but someone needs to tell him to keep it under wraps while he is wearing a SF uniform. After he gets a huge deal, will he have another year like this? Maybe. I would bet none of my money on it.
jeffrey d
July 19th, 2012
3:53 pm
Heyward could take on five Giants.
Jason Heyward vs. Goliath, Optimus Prime, Godzilla, the guy at the top of the bean stalk, and Stay Puft
cowdogit
July 19th, 2012
3:54 pm
Hey Frank” Please don’t trade for any more heavy weights, The plane is already having problems taking off.
ncscoots
July 19th, 2012
3:55 pm
Jason Heyward vs. Goliath, Optimus Prime, Godzilla, the guy at the top of the bean stalk, and Stay Puft
Unfair to the versus.
Ward
July 19th, 2012
3:55 pm
Melky 3:52 pm post – I bet the juice will carry you well , until they fine out from the test.
flange1
July 19th, 2012
3:55 pm
jeffrey
nolie
July 19th, 2012
3:56 pm
don’t forget King Kong
Shaun
July 19th, 2012
3:56 pm
Hitting Melky could have led to injuries and suspensions and could very well have cost the Braves wins. Not hitting him just irks some fans. Let’s see, what should a major league team do?
jeffrey d
July 19th, 2012
3:57 pm
King Kong was in the original draft but I replaced him with Godzilla
ColbyinCalifornia
July 19th, 2012
3:57 pm
I haven’t posted since I signed off with the hopes that you’d play well against the Nats. I came back to check and see if someone was still stealing my screen name. Bummer – why would someone do that?
BravesFanSince80's
July 19th, 2012
3:57 pm
Shaun, out of Uggla’s 36 home runs last year, how many were solo shots? All your advanced statistics do not change the fact that Uggla is a millstone around the offense’s neck (with the noteable exception of one month last season) and has been since he got here. There are lengthy stretches of time when he is as much of a guaranteed out as the pitcher’s spot in the lineup. Justify all you want, but I watch most of the games and the guy has hurt us offensively. Give me a scrappy, tough out with little or no power ANY DAY over him…
jeffrey d
July 19th, 2012
3:58 pm
I would’ve liked to have seen them plunk him, but whatever…it’s over now
Efrim
July 19th, 2012
3:58 pm
Shaun, I actually enjoyed your 3:51pm post – strangely enough. Well done.
ncscoots
July 19th, 2012
3:58 pm
Let’s see, what should a major league team do?
Get a six-run lead and then bury the ***hole. Failing that, exactly what they did today: win the game and let the fire smolder a little.
TennesseePaul
July 19th, 2012
3:58 pm
I see TenneseePaul made the comments I’d expect from him.
Well, if that’s the case I’m going to start pitching some cutters down and in. No more meat down the middle.
Ward
July 19th, 2012
3:59 pm
Too bad Gattis isn’t here. I would like to see what Gattis would do in a fight. He would destroy the whole Giant team.
Lew
July 19th, 2012
3:59 pm
Apparently the Nats’ manager only instilled that win at all costs attitude in them three more times than Fredi instilled it into the Braves.
TennesseePaul
July 19th, 2012
4:00 pm
in furtherance of my efforts to become a better man
Nobody ever held it against honest Abe that he killed every bug he found in his house.
b
July 19th, 2012
4:00 pm
When’s Constanza getting recalled and when’s Medlen getting a start?
Thank God, the smug NickB is banned.
Murph
July 19th, 2012
4:01 pm
Man, I gotta get up at 3am tomorrow to catch a flight. A, I hate flying. B, I don’t usually go to bed until 1am.
It always sounds like a good idea when you book it. Mrs Murph said “It’ll be great, you’ll have all afternoon on the beach!”
Yeah, not thinking it’s such a good idea now.
TennesseePaul
July 19th, 2012
4:01 pm
I actually enjoyed your 3:51pm post – strangely enough. Well done.
Was it the Smason Smaywerd that rang your bells?
Efrim
July 19th, 2012
4:01 pm
billy (vegas) [via mobile]
Have u heard anything on this guy cunningham in the braves AA system. Is he abel to take over in center if bourn doesnt sign next year.
Klaw (2:08 PM)
Extra outfielder ceiling. If that.
Haha. Oh man. That’s going to upset a few here. Terdoslavich, Cunningham, Gattis….our big three bats!
Efrim
July 19th, 2012
4:02 pm
Was it the Smason Smaywerd that rang your bells?
Yes, that was part of it. Made me laugh.
Lew
July 19th, 2012
4:03 pm
All afternoon on the beach – where you’ll fall asleep and get the worst case of sunburn you’ve ever had.
nolie
July 19th, 2012
4:03 pm
Nick B has blown up a dozen times on this blog, he actually lasted a lot longer this time than usual.
VaBravesFan
July 19th, 2012
4:03 pm
Doesn’t matter if a player is streaky or more consistent, all that matters is the overall numbers the player produces over a full season in my opinion.
There are plenty of players who put up comparable numbers over a full year all while either being consistent or streaky.
jeffrey d
July 19th, 2012
4:03 pm
Thank God, the smug NickB is banned.
He warned us that he had some device that’d let him come down. It was like at the end of the movie when the defeated villian hints that he’ll return just in time for a sequel
Efrim
July 19th, 2012
4:04 pm
Well, if that’s the case I’m going to start pitching some cutters down and in. No more meat down the middle.
You know what cutters down and in would be, TenneseePaul. Reference scoots responses and I will be swinging right through those biting sliders.
Murph
July 19th, 2012
4:05 pm
All afternoon on the beach – where you’ll fall asleep and get the worst case of sunburn you’ve ever had.
I’m counting on the 4 year old burying me in a protective layer of sand.
Steve from OH
July 19th, 2012
4:05 pm
Haha. Oh man. That’s going to upset a few here. Terdoslavich, Cunningham, Gattis….our big three bats!
Oy. That’s why we gotta try to win now, folks.
ncscoots
July 19th, 2012
4:05 pm
Nick B has blown up a dozen times on this blog, he actually lasted a lot longer this time than usual.
nolie, are you saying this guy was Dentz, all along?
phil
July 19th, 2012
4:06 pm
ncscoots
July 19th, 2012
3:51 pm
Today, i wanted both. A nice win and a big ole bruise somewhere on do do head….
phil, there were posters here who explicitly said that they didn’t care about the game, score, or anything else, as long as the guy got hit. Now, I find you to be a reasonable man, but, some of these other jokers are too dumb to let breed.
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I don’t doubt it for a second….I wasn’t able to read some of the earlier drivel as I was in a deposition all morning.
Nolie’s buds on several talk radio shows were demanding bloody retribution on the way in to work this morning. Not where i got my idea of a slight bruise to the Melky ribs, but I’m sure such talk inflamed plenty of listeners!
jeffrey d
July 19th, 2012
4:07 pm
Nick isn’t L*ntz, but I think tuffshtuff is
Lew
July 19th, 2012
4:08 pm
Murph – Yeah, that scenario doesn’t sound much safer than sun poisoning.
Efrim
July 19th, 2012
4:08 pm
Lynchburg SS Nick Ahmed continues his hit streak – 2 for 3 with a HR and 2 BB’s.
He’s definitely a more highly rated prospect than Salcedo, imo. I got heat for that on another blog where some folks think Ed is going to be an above average regular at 3rd base. I do not see this.
TennesseePaul
July 19th, 2012
4:08 pm
Freeman since returning from injury: .337/.420/.605/1.025, w/ 5 HR. Supper hot.
Arkansas Transplant
July 19th, 2012
4:09 pm
Shaun, show me some stats from your typical major league starting secondbaseman from this year that have stayed in the lineup of their given club over a span of 20 games hitting below .100 and over a span of 30 games hitting a buck fifteen. Just curious if there’s one out there and please name them.
MiaBchBravesFan
July 19th, 2012
4:10 pm
Don’t allow today’s game to fool you. As I said the past several days – as did Hudson today, Hanson and JJ (although JJ looks like he tweaked his knee Monday night covering 1st; the jury may be out on him) will revert to pre-All Star game form. The long layoff was certainly unkind to the four pitchers, who require constant reps to maintain mechanics at an optimal level. Minor surprised me last night; the layoff did not affect him, and he is starting to figure some things out about himself – including having confidence in his fastball, and not falling in love with his off-speed pitches too much.
This team is the same team from the past 4-5 seasons, essentially. When it matters most, this team cannot hit consistently. They will get shut down by Washington this wekend; whether they win the series or not will be predicated by the Braves’ pitching. They MIGHT blow up next week and come up with a spate of runs, like the mirage this past weekend against the Mets. Don’t allow that smoke-and-mirrors act to fool you, as it did in previous seasons.
To waste young resources at this time on another starter is at best a stupid and idiotic endeavor; at worst… well, those words will not post on this blog. Even the second coming of Glavine-Maddux-Smoltz cannot save this team because when late August and early September rolls around, the lack of punch and consistency from Braves’ hitters will doom this team, as well as any chance at a Wild Card.
You cannot win if you cannot score runs. Three hits today? Monday’s uninspired effort against a struggling pitcher? Pathetic.
Efrim
July 19th, 2012
4:10 pm
Oy. That’s why we gotta try to win now, folks.
Agreed. But I will say that back on Planet Earth, those three were never considered our three best position prospects by anyone who knows anything. It’s Bethancourt, Lipka, Ahmed and Salcedo, imho.
TennesseePaul
July 19th, 2012
4:10 pm
Terdoslavich, Cunningham, Gattis….our big three bats!
Please Ef, If you are talking about the “big three bats” in the minors, then you can only be talking about Gattis.
Arkansas Transplant
July 19th, 2012
4:11 pm
Murph, I did my first ever tanning bed visit today trying to prepare for my visit to the beach a week after next.
Arkansas Transplant
July 19th, 2012
4:11 pm
Murph, I did my first ever tanning bed visit today trying to prepare for my visit to the beach a week after next.
phil
July 19th, 2012
4:11 pm
NickB didn’t just blow up. What i saw was more repulsive and pathetic than anything I’ve read, anywhere, in ages….
Takes a lot to surprise me but that did. He needed a two seamer to the ribs himself.
Efrim
July 19th, 2012
4:11 pm
Freeman since returning from injury: .337/.420/.605/1.025, w/ 5 HR. Supper hot.
Maybe we actually will see Heyward/Freeman 3/4 next year. I’d love to see it.
TennesseePaul
July 19th, 2012
4:13 pm
Freeman over his 10 game hit streak: .417/.488/.806/1.293, w/ 3 HR.
Arkansas Transplant
July 19th, 2012
4:13 pm
Did you get that? Didn’t mean to repeat myself.
VaBravesFan
July 19th, 2012
4:13 pm
Efrim
You think Nick Ahmed is someone who will be traded down the road? Simmons easily is the long term guy.
nolie
July 19th, 2012
4:13 pm
I don’t know if he is actually Dentz, but there is a guy who has been here and blown up a number of times, gone crazy on religion and other subjects and Nich was that guy.I thought so for awhile though no positive because of some of the totally inappropriate things he would blurt out, but this time re reigned them back in several times. But from what he said and did last night there is no doubt in my mind that it was him. Like I said I am not positive that is the original Paul Lentz though, but I am certain Nick was the guy I was thinking of. I guess most missed his blow up, but it was very much in the same vein as previous ones
phil
July 19th, 2012
4:13 pm
Tanning bed?
no, no, no, no, no….please avoid those things.
Shaun
July 19th, 2012
4:13 pm
BravesFanSince80’s, I honestly have no idea how many Uggla homers were solo shots. I’m not sure what that has to do with much of anything regarding Uggla, since he can’t really force players to be on base for him every time he hits a homerun. Oh, yeah, “RBI guys” are supposed to have those magical powers.
There is absolutely nothing objective that indicates Uggla has cost the Braves offensively.
If you are going to dock him for stretches when he performed poorly, you also need to give him a lot of credit for when he performed extremely well. The folks who focus on small samples don’t get this. It’s not all about what a player does during his hottest stretches and coldest stretches. It’s about what he’s worth over the long haul of a season or during his time with your team. No player’s performance is linear.
Uggla’s highest highs have made up for his lowest lows enough to allow him to be a more than adequate big league starting secondbaseman. Is he the Uggla he was in his best seasons with the Marlins? No. But we should never have expected him to be that guy. The man was 31 his first game with the Braves. Now all of the sudden some of us want to be outraged because he’s not Robinson Cano?
Efrim
July 19th, 2012
4:14 pm
Oh and on top of Ahmed’s 2 for 3 with a HR and 2 BB’s – he stole his 27th and 28th bases of the season. 28 for 37. 6′3” 205lbs.
Apparently, he’s a sight to see at SS. Not in a great, Andrelton Simmons way, but his fielding is unorthodox.
Tumbledown
July 19th, 2012
4:14 pm
Given Chipper’s comments after Wednesday’s game that Melky’s actions would not be forgotten, any knockdown pitch by Hudson thrown at Melky would have surely resulted in being tossed, a fine, and a suspension. The Braves could not afford to lose Hudson for essentially two games. Thus, Hudson and the Braves played it smart and cool, unlike several ludicrous fans who clearly desired retribution no matter the cost.
TennesseePaul
July 19th, 2012
4:15 pm
Maybe we actually will see Heyward/Freeman 3/4 next year. I’d love to see it.
Hope so. I loved looking at their numbers when they were coming up competing against each other. Be nice to see that in the MLB.
TennesseePaul
July 19th, 2012
4:16 pm
Apparently, he’s a sight to see at SS. Not in a great, Andrelton Simmons way, but his fielding is unorthodox.
Wonder if he keep raking if they’ll move him to third or something. Or even outfield. Guess he can run…
brian
July 19th, 2012
4:16 pm
thanks for the Ahmed update. He seems to be coming along nicely. At his size, a possible 3B in the future?
nolie
July 19th, 2012
4:16 pm
whether he is Lentz or not, he is the guy who has totally gone off on here a number of times b4. worked with all them kinda crazies too much not to have an excellent feel for them
Efrim
July 19th, 2012
4:17 pm
You think Nick Ahmed is someone who will be traded down the road? Simmons easily is the long term guy.
There are still questions about his chance to play of the left side of the infield – but he may hit enough to be a slightly above average 2nd baseman.
As I said before, he is a position player I’d target – and we don’t have many of those.