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phil
July 19th, 2012
1:58 pm
Uggla hasn’t lost anything….
This is what he does. Homer. Strikeout. Many, many more ks than homers.
He’s just taking it to anothe rlevel of awful right now.
Brian from SC
July 19th, 2012
1:59 pm
Nats have five innings left to pitch with their bullpen today. If the Braves can make it a short night for Strasburg tomorrow (he rarely goes more than 6 anyway), they could set themselves up well to wear them out.
flange1
July 19th, 2012
1:59 pm
Mets knock Cio out of the game.
Nice!
David O'Brien
July 19th, 2012
1:59 pm
DOB, do you think braves will sign prado to an extension
Probably so, during the offseason.
Yogi Berra
July 19th, 2012
1:59 pm
The Giants last night had a bench that producted.The Braves didn’t.
RC
July 19th, 2012
2:00 pm
I can handle a bad week or 2. It’s the month long slugging under .400 which you like and I dislike. I still like Heyward, but not his sub-400 slugging, which he did in May and is now doing in July.
I’m pretty sure you could name any player in major league baseball and if I look hard enough I could find a sub-.400 slugging month for any of them in the past 2 years. The key to having those months occur few and far between, and being WAY over .400 in the other month.
iTiSi
July 19th, 2012
2:01 pm
“RC” Didja ever hear of a “safety squeeze”? The odds were much better for Janish on a bunt attempt than trying to get a hit, as we ALL saw what happened. That was so predictable. If he cannot bunt he has no business being the the major leagues. Pitchers get by with it just because they are pitchers.
The art of bunting is becoming more and more extinct, and that is sad. Many a run has been manufactured by just a simple bunt in years gone by. Lots of already gone managers are turning over in their graves.
Arkansas Transplant
July 19th, 2012
2:01 pm
I must have missed something, I’m guessing Uggla hasn’t gotten a hit today?
Al Bundy
July 19th, 2012
2:04 pm
Uggla is 0-2 so far today and his batting average is a smokin hot .217
phil
July 19th, 2012
2:04 pm
Prado is in the process of regressing to more typical utility man numbers that one should expect from him….makes him cheaper and makes Uggla feel better watching him flounder around.
phil
July 19th, 2012
2:06 pm
Unlike the other Braves other than Mac, Uggla isn’t on this team to hit…
Pace
July 19th, 2012
2:06 pm
Not even close to a strike on Uggla there – When you’re slumping hard, you get zero breaks. Wow.
tony austin
July 19th, 2012
2:07 pm
Sometimes that is a strike and sometimes that is a ball. I guess it’s just how the ump is “feeling” at the moment.
TennesseePaul
July 19th, 2012
2:07 pm
The key to having those months occur few and far between, and being WAY over .400 in the other month.
I would agree. But, Heyward has slugged under .400 in 7 of the last 10 months he’s played ball (including this month). That’s not desirable.
ColbyinCalifornia
July 19th, 2012
2:07 pm
That was not a strike. Slump = no breaks. Rough!
Charlie
July 19th, 2012
2:08 pm
Hey! What’s a Braves game, without Worthless Dan taking another called third strike, and another 0′fer for the day? Worthless Dan Uggla, you are who you are!
Pace
July 19th, 2012
2:08 pm
Posey caught it on the corner – it was a breaking ball that came from the LH batters box – no way it touched the plate – I wish they’d run the FoxTrax on it.
RC
July 19th, 2012
2:08 pm
“RC” Didja ever hear of a “safety squeeze”? The odds were much better for Janish on a bunt attempt than trying to get a hit, as we ALL saw what happened. That was so predictable. If he cannot bunt he has no business being the the major leagues. Pitchers get by with it just because they are pitchers.
I have heard of a safety squeeze. I still say that when the opposing team knows that they have to get the runner at the plate or the game is over, a safety squeeze isn’t very likely to work. The 1st and 3rd basemen are going to break as soon as they see bunt, and they were already playing crazy shallow due to the aforementioned runner at 3rd. While I agree that Janish looked lost at the plate and had no business hitting, I think that removing him for Hinske would have been the right move, especially with Pastornicky available to cover extra innings if needed.
TuffShhhtuff
July 19th, 2012
2:08 pm
“the truth” and “nolie” must be one and the same. They are synonymous.
ncscoots
July 19th, 2012
2:08 pm
I can handle a bad week or 2. It’s the month long slugging under .400 which you like and I dislike.
He’s played 13 games in July. Is that not a couple of weeks? The guy has more games left in July than he’s already played, fercrissake.
ColbyinCalifornia
July 19th, 2012
2:08 pm
Melky BOOM. Triple. Melky 3, Hudson 1
Arkansas Transplant
July 19th, 2012
2:08 pm
Nice!!!
usnavyvolfaninva
July 19th, 2012
2:08 pm
Wow…I’ve never seen anyone struggle at the plate as much as Uggla has. How can a guy just “forget how to hit” the way he has? Also, I thought it was funny how when he struck out, Chip says ” no argument from Uggla” as Uggla turns to argue the call.
TNScott
July 19th, 2012
2:09 pm
Time to get Huddy out.
It's over now
July 19th, 2012
2:09 pm
Good job Dan (.216 – 67 for 310). The Mendoza line is getting closer………….
David O'Brien
July 19th, 2012
2:09 pm
Melky triples, then acknowledges booing crowd. Wow.
Bronke
July 19th, 2012
2:09 pm
Wow three hits over seven innings and the Braves have the lead. This defIes baseball logic. Uggla has now become an automatic out. He must be going crazy on the inside!
StingerSplash
July 19th, 2012
2:09 pm
“Sandoval to the warning track”
Why? Was some of the postgame spread put out there?
Seriously, DOB, and I figure you’re getting peppered with this now, but how much longer can Fredi keep Struggla in the lineup at all? Yeah, yeah, let him try to hit his way out of his slump, he did last year, yada yada yada. But there really is no end in sight now. And this is Uggly what’s happening at the plate. With Struggla, the light-hitting Janish and the pitcher’s spot, the lineup is only six spots deep right now. As uneven as the starting pitching has been, as crapshoot as the set up guys in the pen have been, how can Struggla keep his place in the lineup? It might be time for an “injury” to pop up with him.
RC
July 19th, 2012
2:09 pm
Also, with 1 out, Hinske wouldn’t have even needed to get a hit. A decent distance fly ball would have won the game.
ncbravesfan90
July 19th, 2012
2:09 pm
87 mph fastball…they usually get hit like that, if your lucky enough to keep them in the park.
TennesseePaul
July 19th, 2012
2:09 pm
AT, not yet, but he did beat the ever-loving-sh!t out of Melky. Can’t believe you missed that. He had him in a Ryan Express style headlock, just wailing on him…
Arkansas Transplant
July 19th, 2012
2:09 pm
Lard got on base again huh? It’s a wonder he could run with that big head!!
faninva
July 19th, 2012
2:09 pm
what a jerk.
StingerSplash
July 19th, 2012
2:10 pm
I’ve given a safety squeeze before. She was hot, though.
tony austin
July 19th, 2012
2:10 pm
Hopefully Huddy can make it through this inning, even if that run scores. Then turn it over to Kimbrel.
Arkansas Transplant
July 19th, 2012
2:10 pm
TennesseePaul, actually if he did that… he’s underpaid!!
Chris from the Rock
July 19th, 2012
2:11 pm
Just as I thought…Braves have now faced more lefty SPs than any other team in MLB except the Dodgers, whom they are tied with at 34 games apiece. Braves are 14-19 so far. Further proof they really need to add a RH masher in the offseason.
LAG
July 19th, 2012
2:11 pm
A couple of questionable called third strikes on Uggla in recent games. His thoughts? “Figures.”
Also, that pitch that Cabrera tripled on was probably the worst pitch he’s thrown in the game. And he just happened to throw it to him.
Shaun
July 19th, 2012
2:11 pm
MikeInFl,
a) many of those guys who posted lower ERA’s pitched over their heads in 2011.
b) Defense is not the only outside factor (other than a pitcher’s performance) that influences ERA and WHIP. Some of it is randomness as well (some might call that luck, chance, whatever).
c) Greinke had the highest rate of giving up groundballs on the Brewers’ starting staff in 2011. The Brewers had one of the worst defensive infields in the majors, attributing to most of their defensive deficiencies.
d) 2011 is just one season.
I think it’s clear, based on the information we have, that he’s in that second tier of great starters, behind guys like Verlander, Halladay, Cliff Lee. Even if we are pretty conservative, we would say he’s one of the top 12 pitchers in the game since the start of 2009 and top 15-20 since the start of 2010 (if you don’t feel comfortable including his remarkable 2009). On the free agent market, $20M a season is reasonable for that kind of pitcher. The bigger question for me is what would the Braves have to give up to get him in a trade this season. And does some team that has a larger budget offer something like $23M-a-year or more? And, if so, would he take less than that to play in a place like Atlanta? Lots of questions and valid reasons to have misgivings about trading for him. But I don’t think there is much doubt that $20M a season is fair, considering what a player of his caliber has been worth on the free agent market in recent seasons.
phil
July 19th, 2012
2:11 pm
A pitch is either a strike by rule or it isn’t. There’s no in between other than the human element that will never be able to get it right every time.
With Uggly up there….sigh.
I hate to break out Uggly again, but it’s time.
TennesseePaul
July 19th, 2012
2:11 pm
The guy has more games left in July than he’s already played, fercrissake
Challenge! There are 11 games left this month. He is playing in his 14th game.
LAG
July 19th, 2012
2:12 pm
To clarify, “the worst pitch *Hudson’s* thrown in the game.”
raleighbravefan
July 19th, 2012
2:12 pm
AT + Uggla = George + Fredi = Robert + Bobby……..Obsessive!
bravesgrl4life
July 19th, 2012
2:13 pm
Ooops, Huddy. Weren’t supposed to do that. God, I hope the ‘pen can hold the 1 run lead.
ColbyinCalifornia
July 19th, 2012
2:13 pm
Whoa..Buster just missed that. 3-2. What a great game. Jon Miller & Dave Flemming are praising Tim Hudson
Hudson = GAMER
Arkansas Transplant
July 19th, 2012
2:14 pm
raleighbravefan, did that make you feel better?
usnavyvolfaninva
July 19th, 2012
2:14 pm
Colby, did Jon retire from ESPN?
David O'Brien
July 19th, 2012
2:14 pm
Hudson: 7-1/3 IP, 8 H, 2 R, 2 BB, 3 K, 95 pitches/61 strikes
space monkey
July 19th, 2012
2:14 pm
If Melky ever shows his face in this park again, I’ll buy the D-cells.
TennesseePaul
July 19th, 2012
2:15 pm
besides scoots, I acknowledge that this month is not over, I hope he gets it going soon. He could bounce back up there. But, ignoring this month, he has slugged under .400 in 6 of the last 9 months he has played ball, that still isn’t desirable from a RF.
phil
July 19th, 2012
2:15 pm
David O’Brien
July 19th, 2012
2:09 pm
Melky triples, then acknowledges booing crowd. Wow.
****************
Another example of what I’m saying….
We let the guys like this kick our ass and make us look foolish. It gets so old.
Pace
July 19th, 2012
2:15 pm
Melky showing real class there slowing from his trot to a walk across the plate scoring on the sac fly. What a clown. He’s having a great year and reacting badly to the booing from fans in the stands, but…retribution HAS to be coming soon from the Braves. I’m surprised he didn’t at least get brushed back today – and he hopefully won’t bat again today.
ncscoots
July 19th, 2012
2:15 pm
Challenge!
What. Evah.
Bat Masterson
July 19th, 2012
2:15 pm
The art of bunting is becoming more and more extinct, and that is sad. _ iTiSi
What is really sad, I, is that sentence.
iTiSi
July 19th, 2012
2:15 pm
I had already lost all respect for the manager of the Braves, now I have lost all respect for Hudson and the other Braves. They are letting Melky C. just “mop the floor” with them and then rub it in. He could have accomplished two things right there. Send a message to Cabrera that his actions are not acceptable in your own home park, and only given up one base INSTEAD OF A “FRIGGIN” TRIPLE! Not too many places where this would happen in baseball. Of course, we all know why it happens in Atlanta.
usnavyvolfaninva
July 19th, 2012
2:15 pm
Wow…ever feel like you’re losing when you have a 3-2 lead?
JC Brave
July 19th, 2012
2:16 pm
BOOM!
Go Braves!
Best bullpen in baseball!
Yogi Berra
July 19th, 2012
2:16 pm
That little fat man can boogie!
phil
July 19th, 2012
2:16 pm
Looks like Hudson threw a fine game…well done.
Be nice to actually win it though.
brian
July 19th, 2012
2:16 pm
Melky is showing a complete lack of class. The Giants should be embarrassed by him as should any professional baseball player. The only thing professional about Melky is his paycheck
ColbyinCalifornia
July 19th, 2012
2:17 pm
Pace are you kidding? Slowing his trot? Wow you are really looking to find something on that. usnavy, Jon did not retire from ESPN, they parted ways I guess. Jon relishes radio, and loves the Giants and I think he wanted to focus here. Jon is funny, he was saying “Pradooooh, sounds so macho and tough. Pradooooh…watch out for…Pradooooh”. It was good
brian
July 19th, 2012
2:17 pm
nice strikeot by EOF – need one more out here
usnavyvolfaninva
July 19th, 2012
2:17 pm
Yes, iTsi, that’s a great idea… let’s lose Hudson in a close game, when the Braves have already lost the first 2 games. Then we can overwork the bullpen again…
wait until the Braves have a big lead and can afford it, then send the chin music.
cabravesfan
July 19th, 2012
2:18 pm
I had already lost all respect for the manager of the Braves, now I have lost all respect for Hudson and the other Braves.
Totally. Because starting a fight is WAY more important than winning a game. And hitting him there, in a 2 run game with Buster Posey on deck, is a wonderful idea…
ncscoots
July 19th, 2012
2:18 pm
We let the guys like this kick our ass and make us look foolish. It gets so old.
You think this is the last time he’s gonna get in the box against the Braves?
Braves Fan in Maine
July 19th, 2012
2:18 pm
LETS GO BRAVES!!!!!!!!!!!
Pace
July 19th, 2012
2:18 pm
Colby – did you see him? He actually walked and paused before stepping on the plate and then took two steps towards the Braves Dugout. Classless individual.
brian
July 19th, 2012
2:18 pm
nice recovery by EOF.
Braves Fan in Maine
July 19th, 2012
2:18 pm
we need this game bad!!
Shaun
July 19th, 2012
2:18 pm
Does anyone just realize who individual players are as players and realize there is randomness throughout the baseball season that is going to cause performances to fluctuate from small sample to small sample throughout the season?
Let’s try this, for all you visual folks: If you are trying to graph a player’s performance, you would draw a straight line to indicate a player’s talent level. Then you have a wavy line around that straight line, going up and down from that straight line, that indicates the player’s performance. That’s how baseball works, FYI.
brian
July 19th, 2012
2:19 pm
I would love to see a fastball by Kimbrel get loose and accidently plunk Melky
iTiSi
July 19th, 2012
2:19 pm
“BM” No, what is really “sad” is that somebody like you sits and waits for something to try to correct on someone’s post. That is the second time this week. You must be an ex-English professor who lost his liberal-spouting post at some little known college. BTW, did I not word it properly for your acceptance sir? There’s lots worse on here, yet you seem to “zero” in on certain ones.
Arkansas Transplant
July 19th, 2012
2:19 pm
Would like to see LARD come to bat in the 9th against Kimbrel and a nice 100 mph ball to the ribs. Needs to take a marker with him to the mound and send his regards on the ball. Just remember to throw hard enough to leave the imprint.
ColbyinCalifornia
July 19th, 2012
2:19 pm
I did see it. I didn’t see the 2 steps towards the Braves dugout. That looked like a guy crossing the plate. ?? You guys really, really, really hate him. Wow.
phil
July 19th, 2012
2:19 pm
We would rather whine about getting our butts kicked than to kick back….as much as I heard from all over about the need to knock Melky down today, why the hell didn’t we do it?
MT Braves fan
July 19th, 2012
2:19 pm
Melky needs to hear a little Sweet Chin Music………
usnavyvolfaninva
July 19th, 2012
2:21 pm
phil,
maybe because the Braves actually want to WIN the game?
Braves Fan in Maine
July 19th, 2012
2:21 pm
Need runs boys lets go!!!!
Braves Pitchers Are Cowards
July 19th, 2012
2:21 pm
They are unwilling to stand up for their own teammates and do what needs to be done.
PLUNK MELKY
phil
July 19th, 2012
2:22 pm
Sure, scoots….he’ll never hit against us again. What the heck?
raleighbravefan
July 19th, 2012
2:22 pm
AT – It sure did, thank you very much. Does Bitching and moaning about Uggla ad nausium make you feel better?
tmc
July 19th, 2012
2:22 pm
since Melky Cabrerra is all over the map here in the ATL, i thought i might see an article interviewing Melky on his resurgence at the plate. What is different about SF vs. ATL and maybe some insight on why he struggled badly here and doing well there (and Gregor Blanco for that matter too).
But i guess that’s asking a little much from our esteemed paper?
JC Brave
July 19th, 2012
2:22 pm
Melky is just a small sample of so many players that don’t respect the Braves as an organization.
Why?
Because the Braves never retaliate. They never MAKE other teams respect them.
Cabrera should have been hit in the ribs last night and maybe even today again, just to set an example out of him… send a message.
This team tends to take so much crap from flashy losers like Cabrera, Ruiz, Rollins, Phillips, just to name a few… and never gets back at them, they just roll over and lose.
Fantastic job, Braves.
usnavyvolfaninva
July 19th, 2012
2:22 pm
Colby…
I’m happy for the guy in that he’s obviously improved his game. Just don’t rub it in the face of your former team, and the fans.. I mean, really, what does that accomplish?
abeeewright
July 19th, 2012
2:23 pm
It seems that many of the Giants players are supporting Melky in his foolishness. Does not reflect well on that franchise or its manager.
Sopheee
July 19th, 2012
2:23 pm
Melky triples, then acknowledges booing crowd. Wow.
What a gem.
ncscoots
July 19th, 2012
2:23 pm
Would like to see LARD come to bat in the 9th against Kimbrel and a nice 100 mph ball to the ribs.
Since the Braves would probably be down by four runs for Melkster to make it back up, I believe I’d prefer they want until next time to plunk him.
Braves are SOFT
July 19th, 2012
2:23 pm
Seriously, why has Melky NOT been plunked in the ribs yet? Are the Braves really that soft?
Really disgusted with this team and manager right now.
raleighbravefan
July 19th, 2012
2:24 pm
I’d love to see Kimbrell plunk Melky….except the game is too close, and I don’t want to put him on base. We can always get revenge later, when he least expects it.
bravesgrl4life
July 19th, 2012
2:24 pm
Save the Melky plunk til later in the summer for the last game when we are in their house. Make it the last game of the series and take the lumps then.
TNScott
July 19th, 2012
2:25 pm
Colby- Melky was just imitating Barack Obama when he went on the Jimmy Fallon Show. He was “Slow Jammng” his trot.
TuffShhhtuff
July 19th, 2012
2:25 pm
“brian” if that happened the last thing we would see in the dugout would be Fredi G’s rear end headed to the clubhouse. Really can’t wait to see a brawl IF it ever happens to see just how FG does handle it.
I have a feeling he is the reason nothing has happened with MC today. He probably said, “no, no, just leave him alone. He is a decent guy at heart. Maybe we are just misunderstanding him. He has good intentions. We have to be more sensitive to our fellow man.”
mjn
July 19th, 2012
2:25 pm
The only way Melky gets hit today is if they have a 4-5 run lead. They’ll get him before the season’s over.
phil
July 19th, 2012
2:25 pm
We want to WIN the game. Get it?
tony austin
July 19th, 2012
2:25 pm
Shaun – You post great stats that are telling and convincing and your knowledge about the game is incredible, but wow man, sometimes you can really be a jerk.
tmc
July 19th, 2012
2:25 pm
i’ve never seen a team have so many players go into major slumps as the Braves.
I know it happens in baseball, but player after player. Good players, average players, role players go completely in the toilet for long stretches at a time. Year after year.
A players perspective no longer in atlanta might be insightful on why this is becoming common here?
abeeewright
July 19th, 2012
2:26 pm
Would Melky have been allowed to play the fool like this in New York? I think not.
Meanwhile, good news that the Braves are leading, but this has been a pretty inept offensive output outside of the home runs.
What pitiful at bats and results in the last couple of innings. Meek, even.
Braves Fan in Maine
July 19th, 2012
2:26 pm
Lets go Kimbrel!!!!!
Steve from OH
July 19th, 2012
2:26 pm
I’d prefer they wait and bean Melky next time. Not proper to drill him on getaway day and in a tight game.
Pace
July 19th, 2012
2:26 pm
Well, Cabrera is making $6M this year so the Giants are getting a huge bargain. 130 hits, 43 multi-hit games and very good defense. Of course he’s a Free Agent, how much of this is him making sure he is at his best for negotiating? Lost the weight, worked on his game, figure SF will be paying him a ton of money for years to come. Good for him.