he makes $13mil next year, and then has a player option for $13mil in ‘14. its too much for him, and is basically guaranteed, since, of course he will decide he wants to make $13mil in ‘14. it would make him our highest paid pitcher by far. maybe our highest paid player in ‘14.
Arkansas Transplant, the point is it’s not a blind assumption. It’s based on how the details of how he’s performed, not just a wild guess. I’m not going to argue about semantics.
The point is I would be okay with getting Dempster but I hope the Braves don’t give up much because, in spite of his ERA, he’s at best a 35-year-old, middle-of-the-rotation starter whose contract expires after the season. There’s value in that kind of pitcher, obviously. But the Braves shouldn’t give up much.
It would be a good time for our Black Hole at 2nd base to wake up out his funk. Our options are not too good at this point…Marteeen at 2nd is fine, but Diaz or Hinske are not much better in left than Uggla at second. It sure would be nice to have Infante right now or even Conrad would be better than what we have now. Hopefully if we trade for a pitcher, we can get a middle IF or corner OF too.
I feel like Dusty Springfield….Wishing and Hoping!
George, just where in hell do you come up with this crap? Why do you think that thought ever crossed his mind in regards to this season? We’re within a couple of games of the division lead with 70 games left. I would seriously doubt that any manager in contention and that close to a lead would even be contemplating the WC at this point in time.
Rick Ankiel gets cut by Nationals on his birthday.
Ouch! But once again a team shows they want to win and you are gone if not producing. Braves would have made him a cake and started him on his birthday. Braves are too nice to win anything. Nats beat down coming this weekend.
the only way I see the Braves giving up one of the big 3 pitching prospects for Dempster is if there is a significant prospect that comes over with Dempster
the only way I see the Braves giving up one of the big 3 pitching prospects for Dempster is if there is a significant prospect that comes over with Dempster
Yep. NOT an extension. That should have nothing to do with the caliber of prospects.
If you folks don’t like the Braves and think they are stupid and that they suck, why waste your time watching them or more to the point why waste time on a blog talking about them?
The point is I would be okay with getting Dempster but I hope the Braves don’t give up much because, in spite of his ERA, he’s at best a 35-year-old, middle-of-the-rotation starter whose contract expires after the season. There’s value in that kind of pitcher, obviously. But the Braves shouldn’t give up much.
This statement I can definitely agree with. I wouldn’t give up any major prospects for his services either.
Wren will not give up one of the big three pitching prospects for two months of Dempster even if the Cubs agree to pay most of his salary. I think the trade would be Zeke Spruill or David Hale + one or possibly two lesser prospects for Dempster and $3M of his remaining contract paid by Cubs.
If you folks don’t like the Braves and think they are stupid and that they suck, why waste your time watching them or more to the point why waste time on a blog talking about them?
***************
This is an excellent question but it’s also one that will never be answered in our collective lifetimes…
Braves will not have to face Gio this weekend. He and Strasburg are the two studs in the Nats starting rotation. Strasburg is a great young pitcher, but we’ve had better-than-most success against him. Wish we had Huddy going, but we needed his effort yesterday. GO BRAVES!
Lew, yeah, I think 2 years at $8M-$10M, at most, is fair for Dempster. I think he might be forced to take that kind of cut because I think most teams realize what he is and isn’t.
the cubs have a surplus of OF prospects now especially with the signing of Soler. They may want to trade one in for a top tier pitching prospect. Brett Jackson plus Dempster for Minor or Delgado will be the angle. No way in h e double hockey sticks do they get one of those 2 without a significant prospect to go with Dempster.
If I were Wren – no prospect, no deal. Move on to Liriano and Shields
Davey Johnson will show Fredi how real manager works in this series. The same Davey Johnson who once hit 40 homers in a season for our braves. Also Hank aaron and Darrell Evans had 40 or more. Let’s see what Fredi did in the majors, oh that’s right he never made it.
As much as Uggly makes my stomach burn with his god-awful “hitting” of late, we’ve got to play the guy.
Frankly, I’m hoping others can keep carrying the team until about Sept. 10 or so when I’d like to see Uggly revert to July 2011 form and stay that way for 7 weeks or so.
Otherwise, he goes on a tear soon and the inevitable collapse to awful happens just when we least need it.
Or maybe we should just fire FG since he never hit 40 dingers….
Just a thought, but if Liberty has authorized Wren to spend on a big contract, why does it have to be a pitcher? I would much rather they put together a package to get David Wright. Then move Chipper to the bench to upgrade that sore spot. If that were to happen, I could live with Sheets, Hudson, Hanson, Jurrjens, and Minor.
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George
July 20th, 2012
12:12 pm
Thanks, VJ, I am sure you folks are pleased game not on FOX.
DAP
July 20th, 2012
12:13 pm
AT his contract disqualifies him for the braves.
In what ways?
he makes $13mil next year, and then has a player option for $13mil in ‘14. its too much for him, and is basically guaranteed, since, of course he will decide he wants to make $13mil in ‘14. it would make him our highest paid pitcher by far. maybe our highest paid player in ‘14.
Shaun
July 20th, 2012
12:18 pm
Arkansas Transplant, the point is it’s not a blind assumption. It’s based on how the details of how he’s performed, not just a wild guess. I’m not going to argue about semantics.
The point is I would be okay with getting Dempster but I hope the Braves don’t give up much because, in spite of his ERA, he’s at best a 35-year-old, middle-of-the-rotation starter whose contract expires after the season. There’s value in that kind of pitcher, obviously. But the Braves shouldn’t give up much.
kenhotlanta
July 20th, 2012
12:19 pm
It would be a good time for our Black Hole at 2nd base to wake up out his funk. Our options are not too good at this point…Marteeen at 2nd is fine, but Diaz or Hinske are not much better in left than Uggla at second. It sure would be nice to have Infante right now or even Conrad would be better than what we have now. Hopefully if we trade for a pitcher, we can get a middle IF or corner OF too.
I feel like Dusty Springfield….Wishing and Hoping!
Lew
July 20th, 2012
12:19 pm
Fredi should not depend on the one game playoff?
George, just where in hell do you come up with this crap? Why do you think that thought ever crossed his mind in regards to this season? We’re within a couple of games of the division lead with 70 games left. I would seriously doubt that any manager in contention and that close to a lead would even be contemplating the WC at this point in time.
Obsession personified.
NO MORE FREDI
July 20th, 2012
12:20 pm
Rick Ankiel gets cut by Nationals on his birthday.
Ouch! But once again a team shows they want to win and you are gone if not producing. Braves would have made him a cake and started him on his birthday. Braves are too nice to win anything. Nats beat down coming this weekend.
brian
July 20th, 2012
12:21 pm
the only way I see the Braves giving up one of the big 3 pitching prospects for Dempster is if there is a significant prospect that comes over with Dempster
Venice Jim
July 20th, 2012
12:23 pm
Nothing like inventing hypothetical facts to buttress your position…
DiamondbackMac
July 20th, 2012
12:25 pm
McFann
The stupid schedule on the Braves website doesn’t give TV info—does anybody know if game one is on TV, and if it is, what channel?
The TV info is listed under “Schedule” then “Broadcast Information”.
http://mlb.mlb.com/schedule/broadcast/index.jsp?c_id=atl
Hillbilly
July 20th, 2012
12:26 pm
the only way I see the Braves giving up one of the big 3 pitching prospects for Dempster is if there is a significant prospect that comes over with Dempster
Yep. NOT an extension. That should have nothing to do with the caliber of prospects.
DAP
July 20th, 2012
12:28 pm
cubs arent trading any prospects.
flange1
July 20th, 2012
12:29 pm
If you folks don’t like the Braves and think they are stupid and that they suck, why waste your time watching them or more to the point why waste time on a blog talking about them?
Arkansas Transplant
July 20th, 2012
12:30 pm
The point is I would be okay with getting Dempster but I hope the Braves don’t give up much because, in spite of his ERA, he’s at best a 35-year-old, middle-of-the-rotation starter whose contract expires after the season. There’s value in that kind of pitcher, obviously. But the Braves shouldn’t give up much.
This statement I can definitely agree with. I wouldn’t give up any major prospects for his services either.
flange1
July 20th, 2012
12:31 pm
Cubs don’t have many prospects TO trade
cricket
July 20th, 2012
12:31 pm
Dempster is better choice because he could be possibly signed to affordable extension. Don’t see that happening with Greinke.
Boonie27
July 20th, 2012
12:35 pm
Wren will not give up one of the big three pitching prospects for two months of Dempster even if the Cubs agree to pay most of his salary. I think the trade would be Zeke Spruill or David Hale + one or possibly two lesser prospects for Dempster and $3M of his remaining contract paid by Cubs.
phil
July 20th, 2012
12:40 pm
I keep hearing about the Cubs’ Dumpster….
I keep hearing about Grienke….
I keep hearing about Liriano….
The solution is Bruce Chen.
phil
July 20th, 2012
12:41 pm
flange1
July 20th, 2012
12:29 pm
If you folks don’t like the Braves and think they are stupid and that they suck, why waste your time watching them or more to the point why waste time on a blog talking about them?
***************
This is an excellent question but it’s also one that will never be answered in our collective lifetimes…
Brave New World
July 20th, 2012
12:41 pm
Braves will not have to face Gio this weekend. He and Strasburg are the two studs in the Nats starting rotation. Strasburg is a great young pitcher, but we’ve had better-than-most success against him. Wish we had Huddy going, but we needed his effort yesterday. GO BRAVES!
jeffrey d
July 20th, 2012
12:42 pm
The solution is Bruce Chen.
YES!
Lew
July 20th, 2012
12:43 pm
Dempster’s making $13 mil now – not so certain he signs for less than that going forward and he’s already 35.
He might make a differenc eright now, but I’m not certain I’d sign him to any more than a two year deal – if that.
ChattTownBrian
July 20th, 2012
12:44 pm
Somebody give me somthing to bi**h about. Please! I need it.
Venice Jim
July 20th, 2012
12:48 pm
90% chance of storms/showers/drizzle/barely-perceptible-spritzing until 9 pm in DC – drops off to 60% thereafter…
Trader Jack
July 20th, 2012
12:48 pm
phil
July 20th, 2012
12:40 pm
I keep hearing about the Cubs’ Dumpster….
I keep hearing about Grienke….
I keep hearing about Liriano….
The solution is Bruce Chen.
HA! – The Return of Bruce Chen – sounds like a good action movie
Lew
July 20th, 2012
12:50 pm
Bruce Chen (Not So) Fastballs Of Fury?
Shaun
July 20th, 2012
12:50 pm
Lew, yeah, I think 2 years at $8M-$10M, at most, is fair for Dempster. I think he might be forced to take that kind of cut because I think most teams realize what he is and isn’t.
phil
July 20th, 2012
12:51 pm
Dumpster is 35? I don’t pay close attention to trade chat….
35? No thanks.
Lew
July 20th, 2012
12:52 pm
Shaun – Yeah, I’d go for that two year deal. Cetainly no more than that, though.
Disgusted
July 20th, 2012
12:53 pm
I would think of offering Dempster two yrs for 13 mil per, but would have to take a closer look at the budget before I commit to it.
I don’t think I want to go more than two cause of his age. But his history of being good vs Washington is tempting to slightly overpay.
brian
July 20th, 2012
12:53 pm
the cubs have a surplus of OF prospects now especially with the signing of Soler. They may want to trade one in for a top tier pitching prospect. Brett Jackson plus Dempster for Minor or Delgado will be the angle. No way in h e double hockey sticks do they get one of those 2 without a significant prospect to go with Dempster.
If I were Wren – no prospect, no deal. Move on to Liriano and Shields
ACE
July 20th, 2012
12:53 pm
Davey Johnson will show Fredi how real manager works in this series. The same Davey Johnson who once hit 40 homers in a season for our braves. Also Hank aaron and Darrell Evans had 40 or more. Let’s see what Fredi did in the majors, oh that’s right he never made it.
phil
July 20th, 2012
12:53 pm
ChattTownBrian
July 20th, 2012
12:44 pm
Somebody give me somthing to bi**h about. Please! I need it.
***********
Are you married? There you go…
Disgusted
July 20th, 2012
12:54 pm
I thought Demster was going to be free this winter, saw his name on the FA list, hey, I could be wrong.
cricket
July 20th, 2012
12:55 pm
Dempster could be another Huddy with 2/3 yr deal
ACE
July 20th, 2012
12:55 pm
maybe Davey could give Uggla some pointers at second and hitting.
phil
July 20th, 2012
12:55 pm
ACE – Brilliant. FG never made it to the majors as a player.
There you have it….dump Fredi this second because he never hit 40 homers like those great managers, aaron and Evans.
Lew
July 20th, 2012
12:55 pm
ACE – Another tough question for you (since you feel they MUST be asked) – Why are you such a compulsive idiot?
cricket
July 20th, 2012
12:56 pm
Bonds hit many homers in majors. Fire Fredi, hire Barry.
Lew
July 20th, 2012
12:58 pm
Excuse me – Obsessive compulsive.idiot.
cricket
July 20th, 2012
12:58 pm
remember golden days when playing decent golf was a criteria to join braves’ staff?
phil
July 20th, 2012
12:59 pm
As much as Uggly makes my stomach burn with his god-awful “hitting” of late, we’ve got to play the guy.
Frankly, I’m hoping others can keep carrying the team until about Sept. 10 or so when I’d like to see Uggly revert to July 2011 form and stay that way for 7 weeks or so.
Otherwise, he goes on a tear soon and the inevitable collapse to awful happens just when we least need it.
Or maybe we should just fire FG since he never hit 40 dingers….
cricket
July 20th, 2012
1:00 pm
DOB tweet –
#Braves trade possibility Dempster is 9-1 w/ 2.76 ERA and .200 opp avg. vs. #Nationals including 8-1 w/ 2.98 ERA in 16 starts
phil
July 20th, 2012
1:01 pm
Hire Barry….
LOL. the personality of Shaun.
jeffrey d
July 20th, 2012
1:03 pm
Barry Bonds would be impeccable as a manager. All those homeruns!
ACE
July 20th, 2012
1:03 pm
Thanks for your support Lew. Your name calling shows your high IQ
phil
July 20th, 2012
1:03 pm
I saw where Richt was asked tough questions yesterday at the absurd SEC media days….
Obviously no DOB disciples in the football press corp.
cricket
July 20th, 2012
1:04 pm
the personality of Shaun.
com now phil, no need for inhuman mocking just because he was roided
ACE
July 20th, 2012
1:04 pm
All you koolaid drinkers keep supportng Fredi and keep watching other teams in the playoffs.
Venice Jim
July 20th, 2012
1:05 pm
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
Source: Dempster talks could “drag on a few more days.” Scheduled to pitch for #Cubs tonight in St. Louis.
MFin04
July 20th, 2012
1:06 pm
“Nationals including 8-1 w/ 2.98 ERA”
Ahh, but without the Great and Mighty Bryce Harper!
ACE
July 20th, 2012
1:06 pm
Can’t ask any tough questions don’t want to be left out of those Harley rides.
jeffrey d
July 20th, 2012
1:06 pm
Listen, Eeyore – using their major league performance to judge a manager isn’t too bright
CrαZy
July 20th, 2012
1:06 pm
Davey Johnson looks like a HIV patient.
jeffrey d
July 20th, 2012
1:07 pm
Also – the question thing
Trader Jack
July 20th, 2012
1:08 pm
Venice Jim
July 20th, 2012
1:05 pm
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
Source: Dempster talks could “drag on a few more days.” Scheduled to pitch for #Cubs tonight in St. Louis.
Well played by Theo, keeps raising the value
ACE
July 20th, 2012
1:08 pm
crazy you are right up there with NickB.
Arkansas Transplant
July 20th, 2012
1:09 pm
If Dempster goes tonight, I could see a deal for the trade drag out a little longer.
CrαZy
July 20th, 2012
1:09 pm
All you koolaid drinkers keep supportng Fredi and keep watching other teams in the playoffs.
All you a$%hats that obsess about the manager (first Bobby now Fredi) stop looking past the players who actually play in the games!!
Arkansas Transplant
July 20th, 2012
1:10 pm
But then again, I really don’t want to see us get Dempster if it’s going to cost one of the 3.
CrαZy
July 20th, 2012
1:10 pm
ACE
I’m not sure you’re up with anyone except your own A#$
ACE
July 20th, 2012
1:11 pm
what is a HIV patient supposed to look like. Magic Johnson.
jeffrey d
July 20th, 2012
1:11 pm
I’d rank ACE somewhere between Mitchell and Robert
phil
July 20th, 2012
1:11 pm
CraZy – come on, man. Not remotely funny.
Brian from SC
July 20th, 2012
1:12 pm
New blog. I believe this is the new big one.
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/07/20/braves-to-face-nats-awaiting-questions-re-weather-dempster/
phil
July 20th, 2012
1:12 pm
Good point @ 1:09….
Release the bench!!
flange1
July 20th, 2012
1:12 pm
Ace,
Just curious what “tough” questions you would ask Fredi if you were DOB.
ACE
July 20th, 2012
1:12 pm
Thanks for your medical knowledge Crazy.
Jerry
July 20th, 2012
1:12 pm
Just a thought, but if Liberty has authorized Wren to spend on a big contract, why does it have to be a pitcher? I would much rather they put together a package to get David Wright. Then move Chipper to the bench to upgrade that sore spot. If that were to happen, I could live with Sheets, Hudson, Hanson, Jurrjens, and Minor.
ACE
July 20th, 2012
1:13 pm
There is nothing funny about HIV or Cancer.
Carroll Rogers
July 20th, 2012
1:13 pm
new Braves blog is up.
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/07/20/braves-to-face-nats-awaiting-questions-re-weather-dempster/
ACE
July 20th, 2012
1:14 pm
It would depend on what bonehead movs he made in that game.
Trader Jack
July 20th, 2012
1:15 pm
Soooooooo – tomorrow between games we have an Old Timers Home Run Derby, pitting Aaron, Johnson, Evans and Fredi – I’m putting $20 on Aaron
JimBob
July 20th, 2012
3:13 pm
ACE you are a cancerous troll. You are beyond obnoxious. Keep typing. You are keeping our entire office in tears laughing at your stupidity.
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