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Bat Masterson
July 19th, 2012
11:08 pm
@Mark — Correct, I would be happy to see him take 30 points off the OBP and hit .250 with more HRs and RBI’s. _ Disgusted
Why in the hell would you want to take points off his OBP. I would prefer more hits to go along with the increased walk rate, or if I have to trade how about and even swap, a hit for a walk.
jeffrey d
July 19th, 2012
11:08 pm
It’s “Keep your hands off me lucky charms”
Woody Woodward
July 19th, 2012
11:09 pm
Oakland over the yanks 4-0. That weeks can sure run fast. Must run in the fambly.
NO MORE FREDI
July 19th, 2012
11:13 pm
TRENDING NOW ON AJC.COM
1. Chick-fil-A president says company opposes gay marriage
2. Chick-fil-A president says company opposes gay marriage
Why is this still on the right side of this blog days later? Looks like the AJC is trying to start some shib with Chick-fil-A. Gays are still going to eat their chicken. Plus who cares. They have a right to not back gay marriage if they want. What the F has happened to this country?
Mark
July 19th, 2012
11:15 pm
Nolie
You and I agree on most stuff on here but we’ll just have to agree to disagree on this one regarding OBP and Uggla.
Disgusted
July 19th, 2012
11:17 pm
Why in the hell would you want to take points off his OBP. I would prefer more hits to go along with the increased walk rate, or if I have to trade how about and even swap, a hit for a walk.
@Bat Masterson — A hit with men on base produces runs.
What does a menaingless walk produce if no runs are scored. OBP is nice, and I want a high OBP for a number one or two hitter, but if I have a guy whom I am depending on driving the ball in the middle of the lineup I want hits, HRS and RBI’s.
Right now Uggla is not producing anything and how much #$@# longer are you supposed to wait, this has gone on for a good 120 to 130 ABS. A batting average of .217 and not producing runs. That is not productive.
jeffrey d
July 19th, 2012
11:18 pm
Plus who cares
Well, considering you took time out to write a paragraph about it, I’d say you do. Heck, I wouldn’t be surprised if tomorrow your moniker was NO MORE AJC CHICK-FIL-A ARTICLES
Woody Woodward
July 19th, 2012
11:20 pm
Well, I guess corporations ARE people. THEY have opinions.
Bat Masterson
July 19th, 2012
11:22 pm
@Bat Masterson — A hit with men on base produces runs.
Not always. At least Mark wants to swap hits for walks. You want more hits and more outs.
Disgusted
July 19th, 2012
11:22 pm
Good for the Chick -Fil-A president for being honest how he feels about that stuff.
As a Christian man, he is being honest and if someone if offended than too bad.
Bobby H
July 19th, 2012
11:23 pm
As long as Uggla can walk, but not hit, let him bat 8th. At least if he gets on with a BB, the pitcher can attempt to bunt him over. And if it’s Hudson pitching, he’ll probably succeed.
When/if Dan starts making contact again, then move him in a more appropriate place in the lineup.
Disgusted
July 19th, 2012
11:24 pm
I want hits with men on base Bat Masterson. That often produces runs.
What do you get when you get a hit with a runner on second. Most of the time you get a run.
If you get a walk, you get a runner on first and second.
unbelievable
July 19th, 2012
11:24 pm
Liriano sucks
No, he really doesnt. Id like to see what he could do in the NL.
Woody Woodward
July 19th, 2012
11:25 pm
Well, mr. Chick fil a has a right to his opinion, that’s for sure. Now what’s he gonna do about it? Refuse to serve ‘em?
jeffrey d
July 19th, 2012
11:25 pm
No, he really doesnt. Id like to see what he could do in the NL.
He’d walk a bunch of people, just like in the AL
Mark
July 19th, 2012
11:26 pm
OBP regarding Uggla
Which would you want Uggla to do tomorrow vs the Nats ?
0 for 1 – 3 walks – 1 K – no Rbis – and by some miracle Janish drives him in once.
or
1 for 4 with a single and 2 rbis.
Bottom line, Ugglas OBP is not helping us win games.
jeffrey d
July 19th, 2012
11:26 pm
And as we all know, when you’re an Atlanta Brave, walking somebody automatically means that person is going to score.
Bobby H
July 19th, 2012
11:28 pm
Well, mr. Chick fil a has a right to his opinion, that’s for sure. Now what’s he gonna do about it? Refuse to serve ‘em? — Woody Woodward
I’d like to know that myself. Why don’t you and nolie walk in arm in arm and order a bucket, or something. See if they give you directions to the Colonel.
Disgusted
July 19th, 2012
11:29 pm
No Woody, no one would do that this day in time.
And no one should be refused service so long as they are acting like a respectable human being.
Bat Masterson
July 19th, 2012
11:29 pm
Looks like the AJC is trying to start some shib with Chick-fil-A. Gays are still going to eat their chicken. Plus who cares. They have a right to not back gay marriage if they want. What the F has happened to this country? _ NO MORE FREDI
Of course he has a right to say whatever he pleases and if people don’t like it they can get a chicken sandwich from the good Colonel, or wherever. Just don’t cry over any lost business, that’s all.
jeffrey d
July 19th, 2012
11:32 pm
I don’t think it’s going to result in much lost business.
Woody Woodward
July 19th, 2012
11:33 pm
So he’s willing to serve the people whose behavior he despises? Why doesn’t he come out against potty mouths?
Bobby H
July 19th, 2012
11:34 pm
The Colonel should JUMP on this business opportunity.
Make a commercial saying: “I don’t think there’s anything wrong with this!”
Disgusted
July 19th, 2012
11:34 pm
Mark — Even the hardest core sabergeek would take the 2 RBI’s.
What produces runs??????? Why, its hits with men on base.
Now, a walk is better than an out but when you are in the middle of the lineup, you are paid to produce RBIS and extra base hits.
In Uggla’s case he is not having a good year. Plain and simple. Had he not had that crazy hot stretch last yr he would not have had a good yr last yr either.
I am disappointed in Uggla and hope he can do better in the future. He was always streaky but not to this extreme in his Marlin days.
Come on Nolie and Bat, he is hitting in the .210’s. He is not helping them in plain English.
ncbravesfan90
July 19th, 2012
11:36 pm
“Just don’t cry over any lost business, that’s all.”
Oh there won’t be, very successful corporation and they’re not even open on Sunday’s and still right up there with other fast food restaurants in revenue.
Mark
July 19th, 2012
11:36 pm
I don’t condone that type of lifestyle. Don’t agree with it. Don’t like thieves, rapists, child molesters…either.
Never understood though why the sins of these seem to get so much more attention though than other sins.
Woody Woodward
July 19th, 2012
11:37 pm
Would you eat in a place where youre not wanted Jeffrey? Course they may have done a study and figured out how much of their clientele is gay. What they may not have counted on is those customers who may have a gay relative or friend. I’ll put it this way. I jones for chick fil a when I’m in Atlanta, but I ain’t eatin’ there no mo’.
jeffrey d
July 19th, 2012
11:39 pm
Would you eat in a place where youre not wanted Jeffrey?
Hey, if for whatever reason Sun Garden said they didn’t approve of blondes (I’m blonde), I’d still go there. Their mongolian beef is incredible
usnavyvolfaninva
July 19th, 2012
11:40 pm
I don’t think Cathy said he’d refuse to serve gays.
This is a non-story. Supporters of gay marriage will refuse to go to CFA for the same reason I refuse to buy Ben and Jerry’s ice cream. That’s how things should be decided in America. Let the $$ talk.
Bobby H
July 19th, 2012
11:40 pm
Woody – How would they know how many of their customers are gay?
Venice Jim
July 19th, 2012
11:40 pm
I don’t think it’s going to result in much lost business.
Certainly not before I use up all the coupons we got when they screwed up my recent purchasing experience…
usnavyvolfaninva
July 19th, 2012
11:41 pm
BTW, Chick-fil-a is the ONLY place even close to a fast-food place we eat at with any regularity (although 5-guys is a close 2nd; can’t argue with a bag full of fries)
Bat Masterson
July 19th, 2012
11:42 pm
Come on Nolie and Bat, he is hitting in the .210’s. He is not helping them in plain English.
I wouldn’t care one iota if Uggla’s .351 OBP was entirely driven by hits and HBP. You are the one that wants to give up more outs for hits, not me. I want more hits and walks.
jeffrey d
July 19th, 2012
11:42 pm
Plus, it’s not like the CEO said “I sure hate gays! They’re a bunch of q****s!!!” He just said he didn’t approve of same sex marriage. I’m Christian, but I see it as “hate the sin, not the sinner.”
usnavyvolfaninva
July 19th, 2012
11:42 pm
Hey, we’re just a 4-game sweep from taking over 1st place…let’s do this!
Mark
July 19th, 2012
11:43 pm
After reading my last post let me be clear that I’m not comparing gays to thieves, rapist…
Just tried to make a point, not very well I might add, that gay behavior seems to trump all other things that the majority disagree with. Sorry for the way my last post could have mistakenly been taken.
Trey
July 19th, 2012
11:44 pm
Damn, I’m hankerin’ for some Chick-fil-A.
MikeInFl
July 19th, 2012
11:45 pm
This conversation is the type that is discouraged on here… we really don’t want to turn this blog into a forum on gay rights or religion, do we?
Mark, as to Uggla and the OBP… I think even Uggla supporters will for the most part admit that he’s having a bad year so far. He has shown in the past that he tends to rally, with vengeance, and I guess that’s what we’re hoping for. In the meantime, I give him credit for running out every at bat (if he makes contact, lol) and playing solid defense.
The walks do make the lack of actual production much more palatable.
Woody Woodward
July 19th, 2012
11:46 pm
Lots of things I don’t approve of, but last I checked, in a democracy citizens don’t need the approval of other citizens on the matter of “lifestyle.” Lumping gay people I with criminals is an invidious comparison. More apt would be to compare with couples who live together before marriage, which I’m sure the chick fil a corporation has on their list of disapproved “lifestyles.” hmmmm. Why don’t he say sumpin’ bout that? Far more men and women livin in sin than there are gay people.
Bobby H
July 19th, 2012
11:47 pm
Damn, I’m hankerin’ for some Chick-fil-A. — Trey
You too, Trey?
kenhotlanta
July 19th, 2012
11:47 pm
DOB: Thanks for the video report…that was cool.
usnavyvolfaninva
July 19th, 2012
11:47 pm
Mike,
It is relevant, in that the LGBT will not let this story die, and will protest to the point that the cow may actually be removed from Turner Field (no, I’m not even joking; and, yes, I realize that many, straight or gay, probably want the cow gone anyway)
Disgusted
July 19th, 2012
11:47 pm
Mark — That particular group seeks out the attention they get and it works for them.
Mark
July 19th, 2012
11:47 pm
MikeInFl
Well said and I agree!
jeffrey d
July 19th, 2012
11:48 pm
we really don’t want to turn this blog into a forum on gay rights or religion, do we?
Yeah, that’s exactly what this conversation was.
“WHOOO!!! Gays should be able to marry!!!!”
“JESUS says you’re wrong!!!!”
“Religion, sex, Obamacare, and the Tea Party!!!!!”
iTiSi
July 19th, 2012
11:48 pm
No, in fact, CFA supporters will just go more often if they even talk about a boycott. After seeing WW’s post to cancel out his not eating at CFA in ATL, I will just go there 4 times a month instead of 2. Get my point? I think we still outnumber that crowd if it’s about 2% like I have heard. They just like attention, and the AJC is always happy to give it to them.
Trey
July 19th, 2012
11:48 pm
I love their chicken and lemonade. Quite expensive, but their chicken is better than most other places that sell chicken, IMO.
ncbravesfan90
July 19th, 2012
11:48 pm
The Braves have had general discussions with the Cubs about Dempster “without getting real specific” about players, tweets FOX Sports’ Ken Rosenthal.
Mark
July 19th, 2012
11:49 pm
Woody
You said what I was attempting to much better!
Trey
July 19th, 2012
11:49 pm
Bobby, sorry. That was to you.
Bat Masterson
July 19th, 2012
11:50 pm
Disgusted
July 19th, 2012
11:50 pm
I wouldn’t care one iota if Uggla’s .351 OBP was entirely driven by hits and HBP. You are the one that wants to give up more outs for hits, not me. I want more hits and walks.
You are totaly missing my point Bat — I want more runs whether they are accomplshed through either hits walks, etc.
In Uggla’s case I want more HRs and RBI’s like he is paid to do. His OBP this season means nothing the way he has gone as of late.
Bobby H
July 19th, 2012
11:51 pm
DOB: Thanks for the video report…that was cool. — kenhotlanta
I 2ND that! Not only I like seeing the players making their comments, I’m also too lazy to read.
Woody Woodward
July 19th, 2012
11:53 pm
Well, I’ll be quiet now. Subject is prolly beyond the boundaries of the blog. But dang, I sure love you guys. (in the baseball sense.)
MikeInFl
July 19th, 2012
11:53 pm
Rafael Betancourt would be a fine pickup for the ‘pen. But he’s owed a couple mil this year and $4.2 mil next year. Would be out of character for the Braves to commit that kind of money to a reliever (especially one in his late 30’s).
jeffrey d
July 19th, 2012
11:54 pm
Why? The conversation was quite civil
Bobby H
July 19th, 2012
11:54 pm
Bobby, sorry. That was to you
I figured, Trey, but I would’ve read it one way or the other. But all this talk about chicken has given me a craven for it. And even more fortuitous, after all of this talk about gays, I still love women!
uga-brave
July 19th, 2012
11:55 pm
fellas, fredo is a rare bird indeed.
one of select crew of managers in baseball history to win a game without the benefit of a single, a double, or a walk.
Mark
July 19th, 2012
11:58 pm
Time for some shut-eye
Gotta make a living tomorrow.
Take care all and lets get the Nats!!!
Woody Woodward
July 19th, 2012
11:59 pm
“fellas, fredo is a rare bird indeed.”
Yeah, he’s a dodo.
jeffrey d
July 19th, 2012
11:59 pm
I have to start making a living again next Monday
Bobby H
July 20th, 2012
12:00 am
That’s right, uga-brave, I never realized that. Sure as hell is an oddity. 11 total bases with only 3 hits.
N Nine
July 20th, 2012
12:16 am
ALL TIME HR RECORD:
32nd place:
Jose Canseco (462)
Chipper Jones (462)
Albert Pujols (462)
NO MORE FREDI
July 20th, 2012
12:18 am
jeffrey d – Your 11:18 post made me laugh out loud. Ha! That was funny.
b
July 20th, 2012
12:19 am
nolie and some of you other clowns, I’ll say this again.
Constaanza .291 Ml average and minors over .300.
He’s hit everywhere he’s damn been. Quit using two weeks as his career.
Some of you just have your head in the sands. The guy makes things happen offensively, on the bases and defensively. It’s a shame he’s been treated the way the braves have treated him.
And for nolie to say” he stinks” just shows he has real ammunition to put Jose down.
NO MORE FREDI
July 20th, 2012
12:26 am
George Brett stats his last season: .266 avg 19 hr 75 rbi (145 games)
Chipper Jones 2012 stats: .313 avg 8 hr 35 rbi (not going to be close in games played)
Looks like pine tar Brett went out with a bang his last season and no attention goodbye tour. Before you rednecks want to kill me, just comparing the players last season and not them overall. But I bet Chipper is too cool to do this….
http://90feetofperfection.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/george-brett.jpg
uga-brave
July 20th, 2012
12:26 am
pretty sure the braves will add a rh hitter and a starter in the next 5 days.
NO MORE FREDI
July 20th, 2012
12:28 am
b – He will end up somewhere like Blanco and do well. Too bad he is just a rally band-aid for the offense in Atlanta. Never understood why Fredi went away from that formula last year when it was going so well. Oh wait… it’s because Fredi has no clue what he is doing.
MikeInFl
July 20th, 2012
12:30 am
b, Constanza had 10 great games in 2011, his first 10 in the majors. Hit .421/.436/.579 for those 10 games.
Even then, anyone who knew baseball probably knew it wouldn’t last. He had 1 walk – ONE – in 40 plate appearances. And his BABIP was .441, which is an absurd, unsustainable number.
Since those 10 days, starting on 8/9/11, he has posted a .243/.278/.282 line, with 5 walks, 1 2b, and 1 hr, in 103 major league at-bats.
He’s not a major league hitter. He’s Matt Young. He’s a thousand other fast guys who can put a bat on the ball against minor league pitching.
uga-brave
July 20th, 2012
12:34 am
diaz,
.483 .ops in june.
.443 .ops in july.
to be fair.
hinske,
june, .461 .ops.
july, .686. .ops.
those two cant be your best option coming off the bench.
scary part is diaz is 3 for 30 against rh’s and heavy is 1 for 15 against lh’s.
UNCBrave
July 20th, 2012
12:44 am
Any trade talk?
Bobby H
July 20th, 2012
12:50 am
Any trade talk? — UNCBrave
DOB is still trying to send, NO MORE FREDI, b, Nick & and a few more of the in-gamers, over to the Bowman Blog, for half of an old hot dog, but Bowman still won’t go for it.
uga-brave
July 20th, 2012
1:03 am
really cool relationship between ross and macc.
ross seems the like the GUY. every team has one. the guy that everyone likes and respects.
uga-brave
July 20th, 2012
1:05 am
plus they have combined for 19 dingers. real good stuff from the catchers squat.
nolie
July 20th, 2012
1:24 am
used towork for the Colonel in Atlanta for a year or so. crotchety old f@rt
Ward
July 20th, 2012
1:28 am
Hello everyone! Just turned on MLB Net, and Dodgers are in talk with Cubs about Dempster right now, and the Brave are in the mix of it too, and the Braves have a better farm crop, so we will see?
nolie
July 20th, 2012
1:29 am
nolie
July 20th, 2012
1:34 am
back in the day, about 40years ago or so, the Marietta store was the busiest KFC store in the world.The Colonel was retired but he used to go around and check out all the franchises and walked in with an entourage one day. he tasted the gravy that a newbie had just made and it had a slightly singed taste. The Colonel picked up the pot and threw it all over the kitchen floof and started ranting and raving like he was trying to create the Braves blog. Wouldn’t think such a neat lil ol’ man would know all them words…..
Ward
July 20th, 2012
1:38 am
We could see Dempster traded tomorrow, or by Saturday? Coming down to Dodgers, and Braves…….
Ward
July 20th, 2012
1:40 am
nolie – You don’t happen to know Custer way back when? Little humor….
nolie
July 20th, 2012
1:40 am
Since those 10 days, starting on 8/9/11, he(Constanza) has posted a .243/.278/.282 line, with 5 walks, 1 2b, and 1 hr, in 103 major league at-bats..Mike Fla
in other words “he stinks”
nolie
July 20th, 2012
1:42 am
Nope, Custer imploded a few years b4 my time. and I never said I knew the Colonel, I said he showed up where I was working once and acted like a mean General instead of a mere Colonel
Ward
July 20th, 2012
1:45 am
nolie – good response……& Funny……
Ward
July 20th, 2012
1:49 am
You don’t think Wren will torment us, and make us wait until the 31st again? Hope we don’t have to wait that long? Come Wren, Be All You Can Be, and get Dempster.
Bobby H
July 20th, 2012
1:52 am
b. that’s funny stuff. he hit for two weeks in the bigs and then crapped out ever since and you are accusing us of using the small sample size. — nolie
I was gonna nail him for the same thing if he posted one more time. Georgie has 141ABs in the big leagues, and “b’s” talking about others using a small sample size.
But he’s just another of the, use-once-then-throw-away monikers. His author must be either, getting real tired or running out of names, to just be able to come up with – “b”.
Is he only left with 24 more?
Mitchell
July 20th, 2012
1:54 am
Anyway, say what you will about Cabrera – including that he was out of shape and terrible in his one season with the Braves in 2010
Not that anybody in the Atlanta print or broadcast media ever could bring themselves to say as much when he was actually here playing for us, wearing a Braves uniform.
I guess that’s the way we officially do things now, huh?
Criticize players after they leave on bad terms but never say a harsh or truthful word about them during their time with the Braves.
We just let guys like Melky Cabrera come to Turner Field and mock and ridicule us and we talk about doing something about it but never really do anything.
That’s it. That’s the way it goes.
nolie
July 20th, 2012
1:56 am
OBP does not mean a hell of alot if you have alot of LOB…..
year after year the highest scoring teams have higher OBP and the higher LOB totals
Mitchell
July 20th, 2012
1:56 am
By the way, three hits?
Really?
Oh, well. A win’s a win.
nolie
July 20th, 2012
1:57 am
Bitchell, lil’ buddy, you’re back!!!
nolie
July 20th, 2012
1:58 am
better they got 8 hits and lost…
Ward
July 20th, 2012
2:00 am
Mitchell – Melky + Great year = Steroids, and how else do you explain it.
kenhotlanta
July 20th, 2012
2:00 am
nolie: The KFC Big Chicken is still there, it’s not as busy as it used to be, but the building is an institution and I doubt will come down in my lifetime…It’s been “saved” from demolition a couple of times by local contributions. The locals still use it for giving all sorts of directions, ie: “go to The Big Chicken and turn left, right or whatever”. The highway it’s on is really named Hwy 41, but us oldtimers still call it the 4 Lane, because it was the only one around when we were growing up and before the expressways were built in the mid 60’s.
nolie
July 20th, 2012
2:02 am
is it still a KFC store ken?
Bobby H
July 20th, 2012
2:02 am
I guess that’s the way we officially do things now, huh? — Mitchell
Are you suggesting that your way is better? Cry like a little immature 3-year old that’s just been told no more candy – after & during every game?
How’s that been working out so far, Bitchell?
nolie
July 20th, 2012
2:05 am
c’mon Bobby. everybody knows that if you don’t raise a stink on the blog every night that Liberty will just let the Braves go to hell
nolie
July 20th, 2012
2:07 am
we gotta go all Network on them:
We are mad as hell and we are not gonna take it anymore
That will ensure they toe the line
Bobby H
July 20th, 2012
2:08 am
Well, if that’s true, nolie, I’ll have to learn to cry myself, then. You know, for the good of the team.
I’m sure I’ll have my choice of tutors.
kenhotlanta
July 20th, 2012
2:08 am
Yes it is and they keep it up in good condition, but I don’t think the store is as busy as it used to be. I could see Chic-fil-a buying it someday, especially if KFC couldn’t afford the upkeep.
Ward
July 20th, 2012
2:09 am
Liberty Media Sucks……….There I says it!!!!!!!!
kenhotlanta
July 20th, 2012
2:16 am
nolie: exactly 40 years ago I had bought my first house about 1 mile north of the Big Chicken and my first daughter was born around this time. We eat there a lot, so you could have sold me a box or 2 of chicken back then. Small world sometimes.