Braves quotes after Wednesday’s loss to Giants

**FREDI GONZALEZ

On  wild game and loss

“Let’s take it a step at a time. I thought [Mike] Minor was outstanding. I thought for him to have not pitched for 12 days, he was terrific. He really was. We couldn’t ask anything more from him.

“We had some chances offensively to score some runs. We didn’t. That 10th inning was a tough play for Chipper [Jones] to make, that chopper to third base. That’s a bare-handed tough play to make coming in and they scored a couple runs. We came back. [Brian McCann] got us back in the game, a tie game, then we give up six runs in the 11th.”

On the late innings

“We had some opportunities. We had some opportunities and we didn’t take advantage of them. Who would have thought that you had [Pablo] Sandoval and [Buster] Posey out of the lineup in the eighth and nine innings, when they did some switching, and the guys who they put in there scored six runs. It’s just a tough day.”

On Durbin giving up two three-run homers in 11th

“It was some balls over the plate against some lefties. You can pinpoint anything — an extra-inning game and you’ve got [Anthony] Varvaro, who has been pretty good, hits a guy and walks a guy in the 11th, and puts [Chad] Durbin in a situation where you may not want him to pitch or pitch to the guys you want to. He just left some balls out over the plate to left-handed hitters.”

On Uggla’s continued struggles and what can be done

“Right now, he is having a tough July. The good thing going here is he has some history of coming out of it and mental toughness. We’ll get through it with him.”

On key at-bats finding slumping Uggla (scoring opportunities, etc.)

“When you are going bad that happens. When you are going good you come up big in those situations. We’ll keep running him out there and keep playing him. I thought [McCann’s] at-bat against [Santiago] Castilla was outstanding to get us back in the ball game. All of a sudden we had four home runs by both teams in the last two innings of the game at one in the morning almost. I don’t know what to tell you there. Again, we had some opportunities and we didn’t take advantage of them.”

**BRIAN McCANN

On rollercoaster of a night

“Early on, both starting pitchers did a great job of making their pitches. It was … I don’t even know what to say. It was a hard-fought game on both sides, it just didn’t come out with us as a winner.”

Take any positives out of this?

“Yeah. We played hard. That’s the positive I take out of every day we come here – this team gives it everything we’ve got on a daily basis. We show up ready to play. Tonight they got the better of us, but we’ll be back tomorrow and get after it. I don’t think we played bad. I thought Vogelsong threw a great game. Mike Minor threw a great game.”

On Melky’s antics

“That’s just Melky. He’s joking half the time. He’s not a bad guy. He likes to joke around.”

**CHIPPER JONES

On whether it was a bittersweet night, tying George Brett’s RBI mark after costly error

“It was bitter.”

On the under-handed throw that sailed over McCann

“It takes too much time to come back and throw overhand. It’s one of those do-or-die plays. I know the guy was fast. I possibly could have side-armed it, but he was running inside [the baseline], so it kind of takes the angle away from me. I figured I’d try to flip it as hard as I could, trying to get a little more of a flip. It turned out to be costly.

“We still had an opportunity in the [ninth], second and third, didn’t get it done. Mac hits a big two-run homer, we’re feeling good about things. A hit batter and a walk to lead off the following inning, then the floodgates came open.”

On his aching knee

“Both of them hurt; my right one is killing me.” [Ached more when he beat out the grounder that Theriot fumbled.]

Probably out of lineup Thursday?

“I would say so, just because when I had to back up on that ground ball [in the 11th inning, bounced throw to first] it was tough to plant my right leg and really be able to push off. It was kind of all-arm over there and that’s why you saw it come up short. It didn’t feel good when I got here today, and it progressively got worse.”

Can you even take anything from tying Brett for all-time RBI lead for third basemen?

“No, I’m not really thinking about that. It’s just an unfortunate loss. It’s a well-played game until the last couple of innings. It seemed liked we had some magic left in the tank there late, but obviously you give up six runs in extra innings in one inning, it’s going to spell your doom.”

On Melky’s antics

“That’s Melky, and that’s why he’s not here anymore…. He got a little happy when Blanco hit the home run. It won’t be forgotten.”

**CHAD DURBIN

On giving up two quick homers in 11th inning

“Same pitch almost. A cutter that stays on the plate, and for lefties it runs right into their swing. After the cutter in that [Crawford] fouled off his leg, we were trying to run it back in there a little bit closer to him instead of leaving it on the plate. It didn’t quite get there.”

On giving up homers to a couple of guys not known for going deep

“The book on [Crawford] is you can get him out in, but it was just wasn’t in enough. It started middle and ended up on the inner third, and for a lefty that just runs right into their swing.”

Rough way to lose

“After Mac’s homer, and getting the out there [strike out of Arias, first batter Durbin faced after entering with two on and none out], then you blink and it’s 9-3. At least Chipper got his RBI. Not a fun way for him to get it, in a game that’s 9-4. But a hell of an accomplishment.”

**MIKE MINOR

On his performance

“I feel like we had a real good gameplan today. We went over it, and I felt like I executed my pitches. That’s what got me through the lineup a couple of times.”

On working through that jam in fifth inning

“I feel a lot more comfortable out of the stretch now. I’ve been in that situation a lot, and tonight it was more relaxing. I knew I just had to make quality pitches and get out of it.”

On getting a lot of strikeouts looking, what were you throwing?

“I was going back and forth with them [mixing up his pitches]. Besides the home run – I threw a lot of change-ups to Melky and he sat on that one. He’s a good hitter and he’s having a great year.”

“I threw inside. I went more back and forth and threw a lot of stuff for strikes, and then later on I mixed in a lot of sliders and curveballs.”

120 comments Add your comment

Thrasher's Fan!

July 19th, 2012
1:51 am

I F’in love Chipper Jones

The Dude

July 19th, 2012
1:52 am

Melky Cabrera…He was fat and played super lazy for the Braves. Ended up hitting like .240 and did nothing but end rallies. Then decides to shape up and actually play for KC/SF. Then tonight he shows off and rubs it in the Braves face like it is THEIR fault. What an idiot.

Darryl Blackberry

July 19th, 2012
1:53 am

“That’s just a**hole being a**hole.” The way Melky plays, you’d think HE thinks he’s Barry Bonds 2.0.

Slips

July 19th, 2012
1:56 am

i was hoping o’flaherty was gonna give melky one between the numbers there in the 8th. what a punk.

Hmmmm

July 19th, 2012
2:04 am

“Chipper [Jones]”

I’m assuming that particular bracket is for foreign readers who don’t know who the guy is, otherwise it was an “lol” moment for me

Livan is Gone

July 19th, 2012
2:06 am

5 games since the break, starters have gone 25innings. Thats gotta change or the pen will be toast come September

NorCal Brave

July 19th, 2012
2:13 am

This team has a lot more to be concerned about than Melky’s showboating. How about their tiresome struggles with RISP? And how nice of our portly manager to come out and give us another history lesson on Mr. Uggla. Yes, our all-star 2nd baseman is indeed showing his mental toughness. No skill at the plate, just a lot of mental toughness.

IlliniBrave

July 19th, 2012
2:18 am

Answer me this, Milk Pud, how many plaques, honorary jerseys, home plates, etc. are you gonna receive when you are in your last year? How many standing ovations from opposing fans? How many players on other teams wanting to get your autograph? Try ZERO! The guy is a punk. Same with Escobar, Marquis, Betemit, and Lofton, among others. When you act like a d-bag, the Braves find a way to show you the door.

Ozzie

July 19th, 2012
2:23 am

Chipper is just pissed he made a gaffe and in pain. He hates to lose and care barely move. He won’t make it to Sept w/o time on the DL.

Melky is not here bc Wren didn’t want to risk paying arb money and see another year of mediocre performance.

He made a bet Melky was going to play below his contract and he bet wrong. It happens.

Melky horsing around happens in every stadium he plays in. Not a big deal but for the accounting firm clubhouse that is ATL it will always be seen as bad form.

DogFan

July 19th, 2012
2:52 am

We should worry more about winning instead of complaining about Melky. Our team looks like a bunch of whiners, Chipper included (who is looking more like 50 than 40). Best way to shut the Giants up is to win. Until that happens, we can’t complain about anything other than our own team.

extremus

July 19th, 2012
3:17 am

When is a 7-game winning streak not that big a deal?

Answer: When your pitching is inconsistent enough to make a 7-game losing streak happen immediately afterward.

Two games in the standings lost to the Nationals in two days, after all those consecutive wins only made up minimal ground; that has to be frustrating especially given how dismal the pitching has been all of a sudden (Minor’s start notwithstanding). The upcoming Nats series could potentially put the Braves away as far as the NL East title is concerned, for all intents and purposes.

Hoss10

July 19th, 2012
3:46 am

Ozzie-

There’s horsing around, and there’s showing up other teams and players. He might not mean any harm (although in this instance against the team that cut him, I think he does), but he should know by now how he sometimes comes across to others. The Braves are a widely respected organization and his lack of character is definitely part of the reason he isn’t there anymore. It’s also why the Yankees had no problem trading him. It might be fine for the Giants, who regularly have guys like Bonds, Lincecum, etc. but it’s not acceptable for classy organizations like the Braves and Yankees.

Hoss10

July 19th, 2012
3:55 am

On a more important note, Fredi seemingly makes bad if not very questionable decisions EVERY GAME! Why bring back Varvaro for the 11th?! I don’t know what his pitch count was in the 10th, but it was a very high-stress inning nonetheless. He should’ve known he was done! But no, it takes him plunking the first guy and walking their hitter who is in the biggest slump for Fredi to realize. The guy has ZERO FEEL for his players and the game overall, in my opinion.

It would be amazing if Frank canned him sometime soon, but we all know that won’t happen. I sure hope he’s gone after this season!

Mitchell

July 19th, 2012
4:09 am

Take any positives out of this?

“Yeah. We played hard. That’s the positive I take out of every day we come here – this team gives it everything we’ve got on a daily basis. We show up ready to play…

Is Brian McCann really serious when he’s saying this?

spliff(TONE)

July 19th, 2012
4:14 am

Pretty sure the Braves would deal with Melky’s “antics” just fine if he was hitting .353/.392/.516 for them. There’s no point in trying to demonize the guy just because he’s having success with another team and enjoying himself.

Mitchell

July 19th, 2012
4:16 am

extremus

July 19th, 2012
3:17 am

When is a 7-game winning streak not that big a deal?

How about when you’re still 2-6 against the team that’s in first place?

myke hawk

July 19th, 2012
5:00 am

melky needs a heater off the wrists like the one polanco took from.. damn, cant remember what braves pitcher it was… but f**K him

Go Go Pilots

July 19th, 2012
5:44 am

what Melky do is his if man wants play well that him U all be complainin bad if Melky was lazy not carein….sorta like chipper jones n friends selfish no leaders Just robots here its time for change(gee where heard that line before) and starts with pitchin coach needs be fired…And Please tell me that freddi feels we played great again….Sorry we played like sandlot team no fire No leaders Just mules!…Can u just see if had ozzie here coachin he would make O’Brien cry!

Kyle

July 19th, 2012
6:34 am

When Melky was here he played like crap and if we had any pitchers he wouldn’t be doing anything now. I hope Frank Wren is picking up his paycheck with a ski mask and a shotgun because I don’t think he has earned a penny of it since he has been here and I don’t see that changing before the trade deadline. He might make a move but I’m sure it will be for someone cheap that isn’t going to make a difference. The Braves must already have their calendar on September from what I’ve seen the last two nights. The Giants sweep today and this team will just be post season practice for Washington to say the least this weekend.

NickGranite

July 19th, 2012
6:36 am

I’ve been a defender of Uggla’s because of the final numbers he generally produces from the 2nd base position but it’s getting difficult watching him not just make outs with RISP but fan time after time. Just wood on ball very often would help a great deal. The other issue is our lefthanded hitters do not have enough backing from his right-handed bat because of the unfortunate anomaly that Wren happened to find a right-handed power hitting 2nd baseman on a lefty hitting dominated team who hits righties better than lefties…when he hits.

shorty

July 19th, 2012
6:38 am

Fire Fredi..His lazy responses to questions are a reflection of his management style..he has to go

Bill M.

July 19th, 2012
6:50 am

The Braves could add two pitchers and it would do no good. Please Liberty Media sell this team to someone that has the resources to put an exciting team on the field. Gonzales & McDowell needs to go. Don’t let Wren wreck the minor league system. They have above average system. If this keeps up, I would trade Bourn, Uggla, McCann, Hudson, Sheets and anyone that could be moved. There is just a bad mix among players and management.

MD Braves fan

July 19th, 2012
6:59 am

Look, I think Frediot is the worst manager I’ve seen since Mike Hargrove but at what point does McDowell start takin heat for the pitching? I can’t get used to a braves pitching staff being this bad. If your “ace” is Tim Hudson, you don’t have an ace.

birdo

July 19th, 2012
7:10 am

Why run Varvaro out there in the 11th. This guy was living on the edge, just scary. He looked like a batting practice picture with no command of the ball. I’m not claiming to be a hitting coach, but please tell Uggla to try and hit the pitch where it is pitched. He is trying to hit every pitch in the left field stands, go with the pitch to the opposite field. Hello.

archie

July 19th, 2012
7:15 am

I wish Bob Gibson was on the mound for the Braves today, even at age 75 or whatever. He’d plunk Melky on the first pitch. Braves pitchers and coaches are too timid.

the don of the real

July 19th, 2012
7:17 am

Does Roger McDowell have hemorrhoids? Can someone tell him to not pick his butt each time he visits the mound. Kinda gross….

WTF - the original

July 19th, 2012
7:23 am

“Let’s take it a step at a time.” After reading Fredi the FreeHomer’s 1st line, you need read no further.
Epic fail. First, middle and last step. Epic fail.
Good teams do what the Giants did to us last night.
4th place. No playoffs, no Chipper, no fans.
Take heart – good ball starts in August with the LLWS.
Then college football starts.

WTF - the original

July 19th, 2012
7:24 am

And thank you, Bill M. You nailed it!

GaryinBham

July 19th, 2012
7:40 am

No need to panic. We do need more pitching down the stretch, don’t know where to start. Minor was great tonight. We’re startin’ to see the kid’s real stuff.

As far as Melky, “horsing around,” I prefer Chipper’s assessment to BMac: “That’s Melky, and that’s why he’s not here anymore…. He got a little happy when Blanco hit the home run. It won’t be forgotten.”

Wish we had Bob Gibson and it was the old days. They’d have to take Melky to the ER to remove a fastball from the horse’s arse.

Charlie

July 19th, 2012
7:50 am

Varvaro’s second inning of “work” (a bigger joke than the first)…letting Janish “hit” (an at bat. like a 12 year old) were just two of great decisions by Fredi the Idiot. Fredi cemented his hold on the “Dumbest Man in Baseball” standing.
Worthless Dan Uggla is the biggest headcase in history. Rough July? Are you kidding? He did nothing in the month of June either. He can’t make adjustments because he’s brain dead. What a total loser. 5 ab’s last night…4 K’s…RISP all over the place. Worthless Dan Uggla COULDN’T EVEN PUT A BALL IN PLAY. NOT ONE. Can’t get more WORTHLESS THAN THAT. That’s Dan Uggla, Braves fans. He brings nothing positive to this team. The trade and signing extension of Worthless Dan Uggla will go down in history as one of the worst signings EVER. Along with that signing, came his former manager Fredi G. Talk about two guys that deserve each othe. What a joke.
The Braves are hard to watch. They have a Keystone Kops mentality. They find more ways to spit out games, than any team in history. Winners find a way to win. The Braves find a way to CHOKE. They are still the same Chokers as they showed in September of 2011. They have the worst bench in MLB. Add Fredi G. a manager, and it’s amazing that they can win a game.
Giants will sweep Thursday. Washington will take all 4 games on the weekend. The Braves will be at leat 8 games out by next Monday morning. It’s who they are.

Steven

July 19th, 2012
7:51 am

Maybe the Giants will be tired today from running the bases all week against the Braves?

Sammy

July 19th, 2012
7:52 am

Uggla needs his vision checked. Has he ever struck out this much before??

Herschel Talker

July 19th, 2012
7:55 am

THIS TEAM AIN’T WINNING ANYTHING UNDER THIS IMBECILE MANAGER!!!

FIRE FREDI GONZALEZ!!!

Buckbaloweme

July 19th, 2012
7:57 am

who didn’t see this loss coming after the way we the Braves blew their chances in the 9th.Turned the TV off after Bourne strikes out

Buckbaloweme

July 19th, 2012
8:00 am

Does Fredi ever argue balls and strikes or does he just sit on his ars and vent to his coaches. Bobby Cox would always go to bat for his players and I think Fredi could care less. Maybe upper management told Fredi before he got hired that they wanted to change the perception of Braves manager always getting thrown out of games. lol

Jaded

July 19th, 2012
8:00 am

This team is infuriating! They’ll tease you by beating up on middling teams, then fall flat on their faces when faced with a test.

I don’t think this team has winning in its DNA. They proved it in down the stretch in 2010 and 2011, and they’re proving it again this year with their abysmal record against quality opponents. Oh sure, they can win enough to stay in playoff contention, but whenever they need to step up in a big series they wimp out.

I say sit tight this year, try to grab a wild card spot and hope for the best. This team will get the shake up it badly needs this winter. Wren is going to be in a tough position, but I’ll just be glad to see some fresh faces. This current group’s act is really old.

Carl Farvman

July 19th, 2012
8:10 am

Frankly,I don’t quite understand the point of the Quotes arcticle. Typical canned responses that add no value to the process of nonsensical sports following.

O.J.

July 19th, 2012
8:20 am

You guys need to chill, sure Melky is an A-hole, but Juan Francisco started it by admiring the homer he hit in the beginning of the game. It happened on both sides.

mountain_jim

July 19th, 2012
8:22 am

“Varvaro’s second inning of “work” (a bigger joke than the first)…letting Janish “hit” (an at bat. like a 12 year old) were just two of great decisions by Fredi the Idiot.”

I agree Charlie. I was really ticked off when he did not pinch hit for Janish when a fly ball would win the game. I hate Fredi’s managing. :(

TPic

July 19th, 2012
8:23 am

Well, Fredi Cox did it again. We all knew he would be out-managed in close game where his input be a factor and he did not disappoint.Give him credit; despite it being a non-save situation, he brought in Kimbrel with the game tied in the 9th inning. This was a smart move. The dumb move was not having him pitch the 10th. He hadn’t thrown in four days and that outing was just 13 pitches. In the game last night he threw NINE pitches. So, what’s the issue? He can’t throw more than one inning?

Tina

July 19th, 2012
8:32 am

Late game last night with early game today means shutout for Giants. Easy bet to say ass Milky gets two hits while are worthless allstar gets two strikeouts.No way we should trade young players for a starter. This team isnt going to win a playoff game. Have a firesale and fire Freddi would be a good start.Future looks good with Freeman Heyward Simmons Prado and Krimbel. McCann is a DH Uggla is an unmoveable piece of crap .The bench is the worst in baseball .Bochey showed Freddi how to manage. My husband said i sound like a racist but hes wrong because i only cant stand 1 Cuban that ass Freddi.

Rafael

July 19th, 2012
8:33 am

Chad “PROCTOR” Durbin.

It’s time to cut your losses with Dan “Julio Lugo” Uggla. Uggla’s 2 hits for 145 ABs does NOT help this team.

It would be NICE if Martin Prado COULD get a hit with runners on base. Prado is a “Claudell Washington” clone… always get a hit with no one on base and can’t buy a hit with runners on base.

Deja Vu… just like the old CUB regimes… Frank Wren teasing us with the names of Zach Greinke, Ryan Dempster, and Justin Upton to falsely get our hopes up when he has NO intention of upgrading the team. Then I remember who owns the team… Liberty CHEAPIA.

Now we are 4 and a half games behind the Nationals. The Braves will probably be 8 and a half games out by Sunday after the 4 games series with Washington this weekend. Nats GM Paul Rizzo and the Nationals ownership WANT to win and use their resources to do so.

You DON’T see ANY Chad “PROCTOR” Durbin or Matt “Double Play” Diaz on the Nationals roster!!!!

Matt Diaz… “he rakes lefthanders you know.”

Chad “PROCTOR” Durbin.

ijudgenot

July 19th, 2012
8:34 am

This may be piling on against Fredi but in the game of chess between managers he constantly gets outwitted. Last night in the bottom of the ninth with one out and runners on second and third the next hitter was weak hitting Janish. Romo a right handed hitter was facing him. All the Braves needed in that situation was a ball hit to the outfield to win the game, why not pinch hit Hinski there instead of for the pitcher coming up next. That would have forced had of Boche to bring in left handed pitcher to pitch to Hinski and Fredi could have made same move he made to then pinch hit Pastor. The difference in making the move one batter earlier is that you only had one out and the question was who was more apt to getting game winning fly ball Janish against Romo or Pastor against lefthanded pitcher? Pastor may have defensive issues but the kid has shown he can hit. Janish is strictly defense. Fredi could have forced Boche to make move with only one out, but it was Boche who forced Fredi to waist Hinski with two out needing a hit from Pastor instead of a fly ball.

cornjolio

July 19th, 2012
8:34 am

Fire Fredi !

Eat half of Uggly’s contract and trade him !

.218 is not All Star caliber.

Carl Farvman

July 19th, 2012
8:35 am

I think that Chipper’s underhand toss 15 feet over the catcher head kind of resolves the debate about Brett and Larry. If you net out what he can’t accomplish defensively that most 3 baggers can….who knows what the numbers wold look like…

braveshoo

July 19th, 2012
8:37 am

Melky Cabrera was a complete jerk. I want to see a few brushback pitches to him today, or this team has no character at all.

Bravo Uno

July 19th, 2012
8:37 am

What exactly does Dan Uggla do to earn the big bucks ? Hitting an occasional solo HR doesn’t justify it. He’s on a pace to strikeout over 200 times. You can justify it if he was going to hit 45 home runs, but he’s not going to do that.

mountain_jim

July 19th, 2012
8:41 am

exactly ijudgenot (8:34am) – that sequence clearly illustrates why Fredi is a terrible strategic late-close-game manager, and why I have no expectations for this team in any post-season, should they reach it.

Fredi plays checkers against the opposing manager’s chess.

Accountant

July 19th, 2012
8:47 am

We finally unloaded $30 million in salary by cutting Lowe, Kawakami & McLouth – all brilliant acquisitions by Frank Wren; now we are saddled with Dan Uggla’s contract for God knows how long, and we’ll end up losing Michael Bourn to free agency.

Brilliant, Frank Wren; BRILLIANT !

Turtsnap

July 19th, 2012
8:54 am

I know it is a short turn around for a 12:00 PM game today, but the way I look at it, the Braves have pretty much taken the last two games off, so they should be good to go. We had 1 run and 4 hits going into the 9th inning last night? That won’t win you many games…. and that after being shut out by Zito the night before? I mean…. come on!!!

I wish the Braves would trade Uggla to a team that needs a 2B, package him with a prospect and bring back a LF that can hit – not necessarily for power. Move Prado to 2B. I am SICK of Uggla

Amber Girl

July 19th, 2012
9:06 am

Good morning everyone. Calm down people. It’s one game. I love my Braves! Go Braves!!!

Jaded

July 19th, 2012
9:07 am

I was a Wren defender until probably a year ago. But I’m starting to realize that the guy gives out bad contracts like candy. You can say hindsight’s 20/20, but the deals he gave to Lowe, Kawakami and Uggla were all questionable even at the time they were given. Lowe was 35-years-old and moving away from a very hitter-friendly park and division; Kawakami had never pitched a big-league inning, and Japanese pitchers are notorious for struggling to make the transition to MLB; and Uggla projected as a guy who wasn’t going to age well.

Wren has made some good moves, too. I don’t dispute that. I will also concede that Uggla’s steep decline this early into his contract could not have been predicted. Still, Wren’s building up a substantial body of work that says his judgment is not always the best.

Ken Stallings

July 19th, 2012
9:13 am

I cannot recall a relief pitcher giving up two three-run homers in one inning. Melky’s antics were so atrocious that Joe Simpson and Chip Caray were ridiculing him during the game — something I have never seen them do before. One comment made reference to the 25 extra pounds he carried while playing with the Braves.

I think Melky’s going to be pulling a baseball out of his ear not too long from now. The game this afternoon could become very interesting!

Nerdville

July 19th, 2012
9:18 am

I told you that you can’t trust this team. They’ll win a few and then just start choking again and go on another losing streak. The Giants will probably sweep them. Not enough heart, itching, hitting, running or defense. And have you rah rahs figured out yet that Fredi ain’t no Bobby Cox?

Nerdville

July 19th, 2012
9:19 am

……..pitching, not itching

BLK09GT

July 19th, 2012
9:20 am

@Rafael – Do you do anything but copy and paste the same crap over and over again. Chad has actually being pitching well for us for me to not complain about one bad night. And Matty has seemed to turn it around as well, particularly in the recent game he started in and played all 9 innings.
@OJ – I agree with Francisco. Not the first time he has done that. He will be gone next season too. Braves don’t put up with that as seen with Escobar. But admiring a HR was not the only thing Melky did last night. Did you watch the whole game? He was motioning to the crowd from the dugout. Pointed at the pressbox after the HR. Joe Simpson said something about it but implied it was a good wave. It was not, it was basically a middle finger. Then he motioned at Jason H., daring him to run from second to third. Chipper’s assessment was correct, not BMACs.

Melky Cabrerra

July 19th, 2012
9:31 am

Just want to say, I know I am a lazy fate dude, but did you see how majestic my HR that sailed over by 2 feet looked. What a joke. Glad he is not on braves, even if he is playing like that now. F Melky, and F the A J C writers. Always writing terrible articles about the dawgs. Go braves

Herschel Talker

July 19th, 2012
9:32 am

ijudgenot:

Exactly. Thanks why Fredi is a buffoon who couldn’t manage his way out of a wet paper bag. We are doomed with this idiot managing the team.

FIRE FREDI GONZALEZ!!!

HT

Times Change

July 19th, 2012
9:34 am

Remember when you idiots thought Jason Heyward was the problem? Ha! The fact that Dan Uggla can’t put the ball in play and the fact that this has happened two consecutive years makes Jason’s struggles in year two look very unimportant. Chipper Jones continues to hurt this team, because he can’t play on a regular basis and the pitching continues to give up runs after the offense scores runs. Remember when Tommy Hanson was supposed to be the best prospect in the braves organization? That guys gives up home runs by the bunch! Jurrjens is a lost, Minor is inconsistent, Hudson is old, and Ben Sheets is a question mark!

lefty fielder

July 19th, 2012
9:42 am

how about a comment on letting janish bat with the winning run at third and one out . . .

ColbyinCalifornia

July 19th, 2012
10:00 am

Whoa. I am really surprised with the Braves reaction to Melky, especially Joe & Chip. KNBR (SF) had Chip on the air Tuesday morning before Game 1, and he praised Melky. The only ‘chip’ on his shoulder was regarding Buster beating Heyward for Rookie of the Year :) (by the way, once again Heyward can’t get to a ball in the outfield when it counts against the Giants) Anyway! I truly believe the Braves fans are hostile to Melky, right from Tuesday’s pre game, before Melky did a thing. Jon Miller was talking about the fans in Left being all over him, and I could hear them during the broadcast. Which is fine, we do that in SF as well. I am just a little shocked that this is happening, because he has been a model citizen his entire time with the Giants, and his tour around the NL and his reception at the All Star Game has been lovely. This is the first choppy air he’s had. In fact, he’s even a bible readin’ boy (hello bible belt). I guess he burned a bridge in Atlanta? I remember he didn’t do a thing for you guys in the Division Series in 2010, but he was with you for 1 year, right? Why is Chipper calling him out? “He got a little happy when Blanco hit that HR, that won’t be forgotten”. The entire Giants dugout was flipping out! It was the 2nd 3 run HR in the same inning, in a crazy nail biter game. Weird reaction, but for me, anything Chipper does is ok with me, he’s a Hall of Famer and a tough veteran. Reading these comments, it feels like the Braves have a problem with the Giants. A couple commenters even wrote that we as an organization do not have class, like the Yankees & Braves. Wow. Remember in 2010 when the entire Giants team saluted your venerable manager Bobby Cox, on your own field??? The Giants and Braves have locked horns for years, and what have we ever done to you? It’s almost like Braves fans expect the Giants to come in to Turner Field and lay down, because you’re the Braves. Weird. I have been to a game @ beautiful Turner Field and the fans are nice people, but when they saw my Orange & Black they scoffed and put there nose up in the air a little. Well, just like it did for Melky I imagine, my attitude was tweaked a little, you know? We won that day and I dished it right back to the Braves fans in my section, and Braves fans were all over me, you know? It’s like you guys let me know that I’m not good, and then when I react, it’s my fault. Same with former Brave Melky. Anyway I’m kind of repeating myself but I am just surprised I guess. I thought that was just a baseball game and Melky was a visiting player, but I guess there’s bad blood. The Giants are a tough team, especially our staff. Our guys, like ace Tim Hudson, back up their hitters. If Tim throws at Melky, you are going to get Madison Bumgarner lighting up Brian McCann. Bring it. The Giants have always dreaded coming to Atlanta, in fact we have a really hard time winning series in your park, but we’ve got your number the last couple times. Good luck, play good ball, and when the Giants are in your park, give us some respect. We’ve earned it because we gave it to you first, back in 2010, and over the years.

mountain_jim

July 19th, 2012
10:00 am

Yes lefty fielder – I would have liked to hear Fredi’s sputtering response to that (presumably unasked) question.

Reed

July 19th, 2012
10:01 am

I guess if you aren’t a good ol boy like a Scott Rolen anytime u have fun it called “antics”

Yogi Berra

July 19th, 2012
10:02 am

OJ u stupid, JF did no more than any other Brave that hits homer.JF has come alone way with Braves and is working hard to get better. Stop the bs.

Milky is the winner! Reason is because he has got everyone talking about him instead of the damn game and winning. Get you mine off Milky and play the damn game to win.

mountain_jim

July 19th, 2012
10:03 am

Well ColbyinCalifornia – our players can match up with your team, but our manager with yours in strategy….. not so much.
:(

Rick

July 19th, 2012
10:04 am

Colby, I’ve got no problems with the Giants, but I wouldn’t expect Melky to get a warm reception here. He was out of shape and played like crap for us. He acted like a douche several times in the game (faked throwing a ball into the stands, took a slow trot to first as he stared at his homer, taunted Heyward, etc.). Dude has no class.

Brooklyn Braves Brawler

July 19th, 2012
10:04 am

Fredi did all the right things and Mike minor pitched a whale of a game, last night. I’m convinced no matter the outcome Fredi is going to get criticism because he did not win the way the denziens on the blog want him to win. The team came off a 7 game winning streak, and now Fredi’s a bum again. Fact of the matter is that shotty defense and the inability to hit with runners in scoring position are the main culprits. Fredi is doing the best he can with what he has. Fredi is thankful on the days he does not have to play Chipper, the lineup flow a lot better. If Chipper is not healthy, then put him on the DL and bring Constaza up

Melkman rings twice

July 19th, 2012
10:05 am

The Braves announcers went beyond the usual homer routine last night to punk status with their harping on Melky for doing the same “styling” Francisco had done after an earlier HR. The repeated jibes about his weight were bush league. And anyone who says Cabrera was let go by the Braves and Yankees because of his “act” instead of his mediocre results those years has no way of isolating one from the other. That goes for opining from the wise old sage Chipper too. The truth is Braves players have shown a lack of urgency on defense in two games against the Giants so far this week. If that “act” doesn’t change in coming weeks, Chipper will start his retirement after the Mets series at the end of the regular season.

steve

July 19th, 2012
10:06 am

Wonder what Fumbling Frank’s excuse will be when no one of consequence is acquired before the trade deadline? After all, he acquired Ben Sheets. Isn’t that enough people?

Sitting in CF

July 19th, 2012
10:09 am

If Greg Maddux was pitching today, Melky would definitely have one right in the ole rib cage!! Let
see what Huddy does.

Barbara

July 19th, 2012
10:09 am

What a @&$@&$ game same ole same ole can’t get a hit with runners on. Uggla needs to be benched or moved to the eighth spot. I am so sick of Joe Simpson bragging about the opposing teams players and the camera panning the opposing teams bench. You are the Braves announcer you act like you are for the opposing teams. And Carey is just as bad. I mute them most of the time

Brooklyn Braves Brawler

July 19th, 2012
10:11 am

Fact of the matter is, if Melky this well for the Bravos, like he is doing now for the Giants then nobody on this blog would care about his antics. The pompous attitude of the bloggers would be masked by winning. Melky has rings and is having great years over the last 2 or 3 seasons. Remember that in the early 90’s we were close to getting Barry Bonds and we did sign (the drug addict Ken Caminiti). Melky is enjoying a great season and sticking to the teams that did not believe him. If you wanna shut him up then the bravos have to beat him, pure and simple.

Bob Horner's Blonde Mullet

July 19th, 2012
10:18 am

Melky gets plunked tonight -

Bob Horner's Blonde Mullet

July 19th, 2012
10:21 am

Really missing Andrelton in the lineup — we have another easy out plugged in now, so that lack of hitting with runners on is really magnified.

mountain_jim

July 19th, 2012
10:23 am

Brooklyn Braves Brawler- “Fredi did all the right things? :(

A post above clearly outlined a superior strategy with Janish and 2 on with one out, that’s where Fredi threw away our best chance to win that game.

I knew it when Janish came up to bat, and he proved it with such a pityful at bat, as if he were swiinging with his eyes closed.

I agree that Minor pitched great and deserved a win. If Ugla would wake up and get some coaching that would help alot – he kills every rally.

ColbyinCalifornia

July 19th, 2012
10:28 am

I hear you Rick (well I read you:). I just can’t agree on the “no class” for Melky, as it stings because there’s also a no class thing Braves fans put on the entire Giants organization. I think you guys have class, for sure. In fact, this is an excellent blog, and David O’Brien is tip top class. I just don’t understand why Melky’s flair (we call it) is being taken the way you guys take it. I totally understand about his tenure with the Braves, and the shape he was in, thank you for sharing that, all of you guys. That was years ago. What he was doing last night, and Tuesday night, was really basic, in my eyes. It’s like Braves fans want other players to kiss their butts, and only spoke when spoken too or something like that. A little heavy, to me!

JC Mead

July 19th, 2012
10:30 am

I don’t care if Francisco stands on his head after homer just so he hits one. Every Brave that has hit homers have got excited. I watched his Homer again and nothing was extreme.

LAC

July 19th, 2012
10:31 am

I am so sick of teams in this town NOT winning or even being close to contenders.

Most owners we ever had stink to high heaven and LIE like hell to us.

They do not spend any $, let one team rot to winnipeg and earlier calgary, while we lose lose lose.

Last night another example of WHY Waste YOUR money watching a bunch of OVERPAID LOSERS !

This dan uggla SUCKS !! I wish I could preform as bad at MY job and get a 10th of what that nothing makes !!!!! We have a GM who cannot tell a baseball from an apple ! He is CLUELESS about the game. How in the HELL did he EVER get to be GM, he has done not on damn thing to improve this team, and a corporate owner, GREAT !!!

I just wish ALL Atlanta teams would move and we have NONE, because they have been playing TOO LONG to only produce on Championship in 46 years !!!!! Let’em ALL move to canada, Who cares anymore ? Do you ???

Backdoor Slider

July 19th, 2012
10:32 am

CHIPPER

Chipper should be the Braves manager.

He has great leadership ability and practical baseball wisdom.

mitchell 80s

July 19th, 2012
10:36 am

minor finally has a good start but it seems we need more bullpen deth if we are going to do anything this year. but we wont spend the money. frank we just hope venters and moylan we be back to form this year. melky is a punk and should have been pulled from the game from his coach

Ebenezer Snerdberg

July 19th, 2012
10:37 am

Uggy Bear is a joke. His uncle Havana Fats got him that primo contract and now he can suck big time ’cause he’s vested. Fats managed a terrible game as usual. And…The Dinger Flinger strikes again. By my count that makes (5) five games he’s lost giving up a Gofer. The Braves are GWTW——again!

JC Mead

July 19th, 2012
10:42 am

Being a good old boy don’t make you win. I’d rather have players with some fire in their belly and get fired up and show some emotions. When a football player scores a TD I like some emotions. If you don’t get fired up like the boggers on here do something wrong with you. The other night when J-Hey got a double, he clap,clap,clap, clap, clap,five times and was jumping up and down. Let it out! Braves need to do more of it.

The Cuban Buban

July 19th, 2012
10:44 am

Mountain Jim is right Brawler. It is the difference in a manager having little to nothing to do with winning games that the players win – and we’re not lost due to the ease of paint by numbers managing of the bullpen or the brilliance of playing Diaz in left from time to time b/ c he has a .420 avg against a handful of pitchers. But, you put him in a situation like last night where it is all on the mgr. in a defining moment and he proves time and time again he should be managing the Mudhens. He probably was going by what he saw from Janish in getting a double in mop up time in the 9-0 loss and a single in the game last night – so he thinks Janish is a hitter. I am just amazed at the people who defend him ,, i.e. do you actually understand baseball or watch the games??

Kat

July 19th, 2012
10:45 am

I hope he gets fined for Tuesday’s crotch chop to fans too http://twitvid.com/Q3WHC

ColbyinCalifornia

July 19th, 2012
10:46 am

Chipper should be the manager :) Chipper is so awesome, you guys are so lucky to have a Hall of Famer like him for 20 years. That is just amazing. Yes..Freddi Gonzalez, what is up with him? He totally wasted Eric Hinske last night. Could he not see in the Giants bullpen that Javier Lopez was getting ready? I mean that’s fine, but if you waste Hinske, you better have a better hitter next to take on Lopez. Didn’t happen, and you didn’t score. Bruce Bochy never lets that happen. We are lucky with ol’ Boch. Back to Melky: Just to let you guys know, Melky has been putting his finger back in his holster the entire year (after an outfield assist). We see it as playful and frankly exciting. He’s not a robot out there, and thank god. Baseball players can be so run-of-the-mill, and every day it’s the same old thing: Do something spectacular, but don’t smile, don’t blink, don’t blah blah blah. That is just a terribly way to go about it. I play in a baseball league in Northern California, for years now, and we have fun when we’re competing, and we ratchet up the intensity when things get interesting. Some of us even have fun while the game is on the line, and that makes it even better. Melky, IMHO, is having fun. He’s not doing these things to just the Braves, he’s been playing like this the entire year. It’s flair, it’s not boring. We like it, and welcome it. Ryan Braun plays like that against us, and I like it. I wish you guys, and some Braves players, wouldn’t take this and themselves so seriously. If the Braves were more of a swashbuckling team, I’ll bet guys like Heyward and Freeman & Uggla would go off! Play too tight for too long, and things start to stumble..

Backdoor Slider

July 19th, 2012
10:50 am

MORE FREDI LOGIC

I love Fredi’s logic in this sequence of events:

Varvaro gives up two runs in the 10th to put the Braves down 3-1.

McCann homers to tie the game in the bottom of the 10th.

Fredi brings Varvaro back in to start the 11th, who promptly hits Whiteside with a pitch, throws a wild pitch to advance Whiteside to second, and then walks Belt.

Runners on 1st and 2nd with no one out — and the inning from that point on begins to unravel even more.

More Fredi logic!

Come on Frank, make a well needed managerial change!

Jaded

July 19th, 2012
10:53 am

Completely agree with JC Mead. The A’s dynasty of the 1970’s was notorious for having players get in fights with each other. The great ‘86 Mets team was full of bad guys and hot heads (Gooden, Strawberry, Dykstra, McDowell, etc.).

Give me guys like Gary Sheffield. I’ll take my 40 homers and 1.000+ OPS and live with the headaches.

dean

July 19th, 2012
10:54 am

Sigh.

I consider myself an optimist and an admitted homer. I think our Braves might be hosed. While it may not be “over ’til it’s over”, come Sunday we’ll have a much better idea how close “over” is or isn’t.

BravesFan in DC

July 19th, 2012
10:55 am

Melky Cabrera is such a D-Bag.

BLK09GT

July 19th, 2012
10:58 am

@Colby I don’t agree with commenters that have said the Giants are classless. None of us really know the inner workings and conversations as to why they let players go, but I don’t recall anything being brought up about Melky having a bad attitude while with the Braves. However, judging by Chipper’s comments there must have been some issues with how he got along with the other players in the clubhouse or players and coaches not satisfied by his work ethic and effort. My observation and many others would probably agree, simply put he didn’t play well enough to warrant bringing back. He was playing out of shape and it showed. But his actions last night were uncalled for. All players get hassled by opposing fans and he should act more professional than that. I have not read any interviews of the Giants players or manager after the game, but if they do not call Melky out for his actions then yes it does make me question the Giants organization and how classy they really are. Fredi G. publicly called out Francisco previously for his HR watching, slow trots. I hope Bochy does the same thing. (At the very least say something to the effect of we are taking care of it internally) Chipper has said it many times and I agree. There is a right way and a wrong way to play the game. Melky should know better.

Rick

July 19th, 2012
11:00 am

Colby, if you don’t think Melky’s actions last night show a lack of class then you and I must have a different definition of the word. I’m happy for Melky that he got in shape and is playing well, but he’s not exactly being graceful about it. I don’t like when players do that, including on my team. I don’t like Francisco staring down his homers either.

JeanE

July 19th, 2012
11:03 am

Juan Francisco does the same self-admiring of his homers as the Dud and it makes me just as sick. Juan needs to go. Also, why doesn’t Roger get his butt out there more? I am singularly unimpressed with him as a pitching coach and I miss Bobby who would defend his players to death, bad knees waddling out there and all! Go Braves and I BETTER see some retaliation against that Melk Dud.

DawgDad

July 19th, 2012
11:05 am

I agree, and I thought so at the time, Fredi passed on a opportunity to pinch-hit for Janish. But I’m sure he didn’t expect Durbin to go out and throw batting practice; I mean, with the last at-bat in-hand you can normally be a bit less aggressive in using your bench.

We say this every day – Uggla is not doing what he is expected to do. But the top of the order was 1-12 or something like that last night, too. The Braves are a fragile team in terms of pitching health/consistency, lack of depth, and Chipper with achy knees does not bode well because there is no other big right-handed protection in the middle of the order. Wren needs to correct some of his self-inflicted roster issues.

BravesFan in DC

July 19th, 2012
11:07 am

I don’t blame Melky for his actions. Would would you expect from a guy with an IQ of 24?

Too Tough

July 19th, 2012
11:14 am

Listen #4 (short stop) on the Braves…I dont even know how to spell your name yet..I just wanted to say as a fan of the Atlanta Braves..you had the most FEEBLE LOOKING at bat with one out and the bases loaded…just needed a fly ball…good grier..and Coach Freddie…what was you thinking allowing him to even bat in that situation..with Diaz,Ross,Henskie or even T hudson…Freddie, we needed a sac fly…feeble management of the game…late inning..wake up man! Go Braves! If Braves have any gonads..Melky will get a wake up call today!

Donovan

July 19th, 2012
11:19 am

Listening to FG is so infuriating. “Tough game, going to run him back out there”.

Can I have another Durbin, please?

This team really does suck!

Too Tough

July 19th, 2012
11:22 am

hey ccalf…Its a southern gentleman thing….BUT dont p#ss a southern genteman off!

PMC

July 19th, 2012
11:25 am

Paul Janish is as responsible as anyone for last night, for the WORST AT BAT ever.

3 sliders all out of the zone, he swung at them like a freaking 6 year old.

yep

July 19th, 2012
11:27 am

let’s get a win today and make sure we bring the bats to Washington.

jharber

July 19th, 2012
11:28 am

Wren for President-Fredi for V.P.

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