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Woody Woodward
July 17th, 2012
6:44 pm
And we know,what happened to yunel.
nolie
July 17th, 2012
6:44 pm
gee look who is back
NickB
July 17th, 2012
6:45 pm
nolie
IF the Braves are patient and let Zito walk the world (as he often does) they should be able to put up 4 or 5 on him. If they hack away it could be a long night
nolie
July 17th, 2012
6:45 pm
yet another avatar appears
nolie
July 17th, 2012
6:47 pm
cough cough
NickB
July 17th, 2012
6:48 pm
why do folks have multiple names? so they can create the illusion that their POV is more supported and popular?
Capt.Mudd
July 17th, 2012
6:50 pm
The headline reads well….and the variables of this resurgence are aptly credited. From my point of view; the manner in which we extended innings was the key. The back to back to back….hits and run support created a higher confidence level in the dugout; our hurlers got the support and the reclamation of our offense has been a bright, inspiring experience.
cricket
July 17th, 2012
6:50 pm
the main line-up, organist line-up -https://twitter.com/bravesorganist
Matthew Kaminski @bravesorganist
#Braves vs. #Giants – Stairway to Heaven or Wichcraft for Pagan
11m Matthew Kaminski @bravesorganist
#Braves vs. #Giants – King Fu Fighting for Sandoval
12m Matthew Kaminski @bravesorganist
#Braves vs. #Giants – Ring around the Rosie for Posey
johnny e
July 17th, 2012
6:51 pm
why do folks have multiple names? so they can create the illusion that their POV is more supported and popular?
I don’t know, but that jeffrey sure has some hilarious and accurate things to say.
Sopheee
July 17th, 2012
6:51 pm
Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN
The Braves are going to try to sign Martin Prado to a multi-year deal, given his current standing as heir to Chipper Jones’s spot at third.
Celebratory icees for everyone!
cricket
July 17th, 2012
6:51 pm
i credit the winning streak to the strategy of scoring more runs than opponent in every game
Sopheee
July 17th, 2012
6:52 pm
Who’s jeffrey?
nolie
July 17th, 2012
6:52 pm
that and because they are too cowardly to attack with their usual screen name. and then there are deviants like Lou who get a kick out of stirring things up over and over again.
BC
July 17th, 2012
6:52 pm
jeffrey and johnny are dummies.
jeffrey d
July 17th, 2012
6:53 pm
i credit the winning streak to the strategy of scoring more runs than opponent in every game
That’s fair, but I think it’s because pitching has given up fewer runs than the opponent in every game.
nolie
July 17th, 2012
6:53 pm
me too cricket. that is always a great strategy
jeffrey d
July 17th, 2012
6:54 pm
You guys stink
7-0
July 17th, 2012
6:54 pm
Hi, I’m new here, just moved to ATL Sunday. Going to the game tonight with my new girlfriend. Her name is 8-0 and as you can see she is kind of “curvy”. Looks like we may hit it off big if the rain stays away. Here’s hoping we will. She does have a sister, named 9-0, and I’m thinking about taking her to the game tomorrow night. As you can see, she’s somewhat top heavy. Just depends on how it goes tonight.
Efrim
July 17th, 2012
6:54 pm
Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN
The Braves are going to try to sign Martin Prado to a multi-year deal, given his current standing as heir to Chipper Jones’s spot at third.
Awesome news. And yes, he is absolutely the heir to Chipper’s spot at third base.
NickB
July 17th, 2012
6:54 pm
so what do you think they will offer Prado? 5 years $50 Mill? less? more?
nolie
July 17th, 2012
6:55 pm
it is obviouslt because the hitters have scored more runs than the pitchers allowed. anybody who thinks otherwise is a big dumb sweety….
Bat Masterson
July 17th, 2012
6:55 pm
Bat’s a pretty sharp guy
ACE
July 17th, 2012
6:56 pm
Frank will have to get rid of Fredi after this season.
NickB
July 17th, 2012
6:56 pm
7-0
was always a fan of her cousin 5-0 (but I was always a booty man)
Bat Masterson
July 17th, 2012
6:56 pm
No he’s not
cricket
July 17th, 2012
6:56 pm
pitchers can pitch a shutout, doesn’t matter if hitters don’t score a run either ..hitters rule !!
DERANGED ANGRY HILLBILLY
July 17th, 2012
6:57 pm
EVERYTHING THAT NICKB SAYS IS DADBURN PERFECT AND THE REST OF YOU CITY FOLK OUGHTA SHUT YER LIQUOR HOLE AND LISTEN TO HIM!!!!
TRADE FREDI,PRADO,HUDSON,HEYWARD, UGGLA AND FREEMAN FOR GREINKE!!! AND LET CONSTANZA PLAY THE OTHER SPOTS
nolie
July 17th, 2012
6:57 pm
hard to tell on that since they would be buying out 2 arb years, which skews it some compared to if it was a straight FA contract.
Sopheee
July 17th, 2012
6:58 pm
Melky, Melky, Melky, Melky, Melky, Melky.
jeffrey d
July 17th, 2012
6:58 pm
You’re doing it wrong, Bat
NickB
July 17th, 2012
6:58 pm
lol, I don’t pull out the hillbilly nearly enough anymore
jeffrey d
July 17th, 2012
6:58 pm
Hey, what happened to TheOnlyBravesFan?
nolie
July 17th, 2012
6:58 pm
sure he is Bat
7-0
July 17th, 2012
6:58 pm
“NickB’ Booty men are a dime a dozen. I like 8-0 because she’s well-proportioned with a tiny waist.
cricket
July 17th, 2012
6:59 pm
some funny sh!t on the giants blog
Jake W.
July 17th, 2012
6:59 pm
The Braves are going to try to sign Martin Prado to a multi-year deal, given his current standing as heir to Chipper Jones’s spot at third.
This is some good news. As soon as I saw the guy play short in a pinch I said pay the guy. He’s earned it.
nolie2
July 17th, 2012
7:00 pm
everybody knows that nolie is the smartest, funniest, best looking peep on the blog
NickB
July 17th, 2012
7:00 pm
nolie
good point, maybe some thing like this?
2013- $8 mill
2014- $8 mill
2015-$10 mill
2016-$11 mil
2017-$12 mill
2018- team option for $12 mill and $1 mill buyout)
5 year $50 mill backloaded and a team option?
hell I’m so just guessing here
nolie
July 17th, 2012
7:00 pm
thank you thank you
Bat Masterson
July 17th, 2012
7:00 pm
jeffrey_
Told ya Bat was a dummy
cricket
July 17th, 2012
7:00 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan has either gone back to one of his previous avatars or adopted a new one.
wait a minute, has anyone seen TheOnlyBravesFan and NickB in a room together at the same time?
Math Geek
July 17th, 2012
7:01 pm
For all those who are calling to pay Grienke $17-20M per year, I sat here and figured out some money things for next year. These are just rough numbers, not sure if they are exact, but it gives an idea of how tough Wren’s job is.
In 2013 we already have $34M committed to 3 players (McCann, Uggla, Hanson). That leaves about $50M or so for the other 22 players on the active roster. $21M of that is club option, but….it’s spent.
So where to spend that $50M?
We have six Arbitration eligible players, currently making approximately $14.2M – Jurrjens (5.5M), Prado (4.7M), O’F (2.5M), Martinez, Medlen, and Venters, each around 500,000. Who do the Braves keep and how much will they make? Assuming we keep them all, I’m thinking that each of them will get a raise, even Jurrjens.
Then we have 12 players who the Braves control but are due raises next year: Kimbrel, Heyward, Hanson, Freeman, Minor, Varvaro, Delgado, Beachy, Fish, Pastornicky, and Vizcaino. They are currently making about $6.1M this year, how much more will these players cost?
So from the $50M or so we have ‘uncommitted’ for next year, AT LEAST $20.3M is spoken for (that figure DOES NOT account for any raises).
We have seven Unrestricted Free Agents: Bourn, Diaz, Ross, Hinske, Wilson, Durbin and Sheets. How much of the $30M do we spend here? How much will be left over after signing Prado to a multi-year deal?
I realize that’s 28 players, but those are the players the Braves are paying that consitute the $82M payroll right now. I couldn’t find what we’re paying Sheets, but…you get the idea.
Pace
July 17th, 2012
7:01 pm
Enter your comments here
Efrim
July 17th, 2012
7:01 pm
Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN
As of this evening, Diamondbacks are not close to a Justin Upton trade. Some of the teams that have expressed interest are non-contenders.
That was the tweet right before the Prado one. Guessing Buster is talking to one source that might of talked to him about the Upton for Prado deal….
Bat Masterson
July 17th, 2012
7:01 pm
Thanks, nolie
csg
July 17th, 2012
7:01 pm
Thought of a name no one has brought up. Could the Angels part with Haren? Ive heard they may not want to pick up his $15.5 mil club option for next year. I dont know what they would want in return, but could be a good gamble. He comes back from the DL this weekend.
cricket
July 17th, 2012
7:01 pm
ha ha nolie is a peep
Kat
July 17th, 2012
7:01 pm
Today’s game is on MLB Network for those not in the Atlanta area.
phil
July 17th, 2012
7:02 pm
Coach (2012 Fredi’s Beisbol Fandango)
July 17th, 2012
5:10 pm
Here you go Dr. Phil…..something even you can understand.
Our 2012 Braves are 26-11 (.702) when receiving a quality start. 23-28 (.450) when they DON’T GET THE REQUISITE QUALITY START. God how I love it when I already know the answer before I even have to look it up!
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thanks for the useless enlightenment, you bonehead….
Go lick a sidewalk.
TuffShhhtuff
July 17th, 2012
7:03 pm
I’m in “Hog Heaven” tonight. Got MLB.TV free for a week on DTV, with all the games, but only interested in the Mets-Gnats game, besides of course, THE MAIN ONE. Watched the lowly Marlins take care of the Gnats last night. Went to bed feeling good about the situation for a change.
cricket
July 17th, 2012
7:03 pm
Angels themselves are looking for more pitching as Haren went to DL. Don’t think they will trade him.
Efrim
July 17th, 2012
7:04 pm
hard to tell on that since they would be buying out 2 arb years, which skews it some compared to if it was a straight FA contract.
We’d be buying out one arb year. He is a free agent after 2013.
I think a fair offer is four year contract through 2016. Something around 34-36 million in total. Prado will turn 29 this October. 2016 will be his age 32 year old season, turning 33 that October.
NickB
July 17th, 2012
7:05 pm
I bet that the early parts of any Prado deal are designed t allow freedom to sign Bourn, or at least try….(I don’t see the Braves giving him $15 mill)
Hell who knows, it’s exciting stuff though
Jerry
July 17th, 2012
7:05 pm
Okay, let’s hope DOB didn’t jinx the shyt outta this team like has happened in the past. I’d like to see the Braves tear Zito up tonight. He has been pitching with mirrors this season and has a great record at Turner Field. And will this be the night that Uggla takes his thumb outta his butt and actually does something constructive? We’ll see.
MiaBchBravesFan
July 17th, 2012
7:05 pm
Well, nolie, with all due respect, if I had to manage Escobrat, I would have been the first manager in the history of the MLB charged with a clubhouse felony.
NickB
July 17th, 2012
7:05 pm
well boys, off to watch the game back when it’s over
iTiSi
July 17th, 2012
7:06 pm
nolie? NO LIE ! (just fabricates things in a purty way sometimes)
cricket
July 17th, 2012
7:06 pm
did buster olney mention that marlins are fire selling including Stanton? can someone with ESPN Insider check please?
cabravesfan
July 17th, 2012
7:06 pm
Seriously, the game on Thursday is at 9:00??
MiaBchBravesFan
July 17th, 2012
7:07 pm
Oh, Braves beat Gi’nts tonight – lead pipe cinch!
Kat
July 17th, 2012
7:08 pm
cab their schedule says 12:10pm for Thursday
BRAVESSSSSS
July 17th, 2012
7:08 pm
@NickB: yes Liriano is FA after this season but is cheap than greinke for the next months and more flexible for re-sign with the braves:
chipper 14 mdd
lowe 10 mdd
hinske and diaz together 3.725 mdd
wilson 1 mdd
hudson 9 mdd
bourn 6.845 mdd
TOTAL: 44.570 MDD
POSSIBLE CONTRACTS
bourn 5 years@ 14 mdd
hudson 2 years@ 7 mdd
mccaan option 12 mdd
and 11.5 mdd for arbitration salary ( MEDLEN prado j-hey oflaherty kimbrel francisco JJ beachy)
basically the same payroll with 5 mdd Liriano extra and maybe a good LF who earns 6-9mdd per year
is a good option ,,or other is trade JJ in the winter and forget his 5.5 mdd or let hudson hit the Free agency and save
his 9 mdd so is like 4 or 5 mdd free for expend in bench help
ATLANTA BRAVES PAYROLL IS 82.4 MDD THE NEXT YEAR GUESSING THE BRAVES DONT RE SIGN HUDSON WE HAVE 8 OF 9 MDD FREE BECAUSE IS
1MDD BUYOUT : 5 MDD FOR LIRIANO , 3 MDD + 4-5 MDD EXTRA FOR LF
SHEETS DEPEND HIS PERFORMANCE I THINK 2 YEARS @ 2 MDD PER YEAR
SO IS LIKE MAYBE 9 MDD EXTRA
NEXT YEAR POSSIBLE PAYROLL 90-91 MDD
WITH LIRIANO,NEW LF AND BOURN BACK
NEW ROTATION: BEACHY HANSON SHEETS LIRIANO JURRJENS
NEW LINEUP: BOURN PRADO JHEY NEW LF FREEMAN MCCAAN UGGLA SIMMONS
NEW BENCH: ROSS JANISH + 3 NEW PLAYERS ( 2 OF AND UTILITY)
BULLPEN: MARTINEZ VIZCAINO MEDLEN OFLAH VENTERS KIMBREL + MAYBE NEW RELIEVER OR BRING BACK DURBIN AND MOYLAN
cabravesfan
July 17th, 2012
7:08 pm
Grrr…that’s early
cricket
July 17th, 2012
7:09 pm
Seriously, the game on Thursday is at 9:00??
ha ha west coast
BrandonLee49
July 17th, 2012
7:10 pm
is Everybody seated securely on the Bandwagon, because there’s a steep uphill climb ahead,and we wouldn’t want anyone to fall-off. Congrats to Ben Casey for an impressive First call to duty after his extended down-time. Of course we all hope him Well, but those HotLanta Summer winds can make an uphill Battle real quick from a Bandwagon Party real Quick.. Course Ben Casey is From the Midwest, and pitcheed in Milwaukee, so this should be no different… now for Jair and Tommy and Huddie, we hope they’re up for the task…. September Swoon still Looms ahead.
phil
July 17th, 2012
7:10 pm
Lew
July 17th, 2012
5:41 pm
ACE – How about I ask a tough question – just like you expect from DOB?
Why are you a total ass?
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lol!
Brava
July 17th, 2012
7:10 pm
Go Braves!!!
cabravesfan
July 17th, 2012
7:10 pm
ha ha west coast
Well, I’ll still be watching at home, but I’ll be working too…and still waking up
Efrim
July 17th, 2012
7:12 pm
I wouldn’t give Prado five years, 42-45 million. Bit much for my taste. An AAV of 9 million a year is a fair offer through 4 years, imo.
Brava
July 17th, 2012
7:12 pm
Some real dumbasses visit this blog. Just saying.
unbelievable
July 17th, 2012
7:12 pm
Haren is an interesting name to throw out there. Probably a better plan than Liriano Vargas and Garza
Tomahawkin
July 17th, 2012
7:12 pm
Gametime!
Lets Go Double J
Kat
July 17th, 2012
7:13 pm
OH west coast.. gotcha.
TuffShhhtuff
July 17th, 2012
7:13 pm
I know now why they call it the “Left Coast”. Everybody should have “LEFT” there already!
unbelievable
July 17th, 2012
7:13 pm
I threw out 9/$36 or 5/$45 a couple of weeks ago.
Tomahawk Mafia
July 17th, 2012
7:14 pm
That walk looked pretty bad.
cabravesfan
July 17th, 2012
7:14 pm
I know now why they call it the “Left Coast”. Everybody should have “LEFT” there already!
Yet more people move here every year…
Kat-
Yup. West Coast. You knew that, I thought?
cabravesfan
July 17th, 2012
7:16 pm
Bad call
Kat
July 17th, 2012
7:16 pm
That is so sad that with a pitch out we can even get a guy out on second….
Pace
July 17th, 2012
7:16 pm
Prado’s making $4.7 million this year, you think he’ll sign for double his current salary for the next 4-6 years? I don’t see it. His market value has gone up this year.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
July 17th, 2012
7:16 pm
And he was safe on what planet???? LORDY!!…
cricket
July 17th, 2012
7:16 pm
he was out
Rick
July 17th, 2012
7:16 pm
Bad call on a stolen base. What else is new?
TNScott
July 17th, 2012
7:16 pm
Michael Bourn never gets those calls.
Kat
July 17th, 2012
7:16 pm
Okay tag looks like it was right but still too close for comfort even with a pitch out.
Brava
July 17th, 2012
7:17 pm
He was out. Damnit, I’m sick of these incompetent umps.
njbraves
July 17th, 2012
7:17 pm
The umps in this league are a joke.
Pace
July 17th, 2012
7:17 pm
Great call – now where’s that sarcasm font?
Rick
July 17th, 2012
7:17 pm
Kat, it’s so sad that umps keep missing easy calls.
Jerry
July 17th, 2012
7:17 pm
Yeah, the runner should have been called out, but McCann should have made a better throw too on a pitch out.
Tomahawk Mafia
July 17th, 2012
7:17 pm
Missed caught stealing calls against the Giants are never good.
One-Eyed Mac
July 17th, 2012
7:18 pm
What is it with 2nd base umpires on steal attempts. They seem to miss more of those than any other calls.
cabravesfan
July 17th, 2012
7:18 pm
And Uggla should have made a better tag…had plenty of time…
cabravesfan
July 17th, 2012
7:19 pm
Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN
Mark Trumbo: 415 feet into the left field stands. And the Angels lead Detroit 4-0 after four batters.
iTiSi
July 17th, 2012
7:19 pm
Why is it the worst umps are always on second base? Even when they rotate? The lighting must be bad there!
David O'Brien
July 17th, 2012
7:20 pm
Venters confident as he nears return from DL
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/07/17/venters-confident-as-he-nears-return-from-dl/
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 17th, 2012
7:20 pm
jeffrey d
July 17th, 2012
6:58 pm
Hey, what happened to TheOnlyBravesFan?
Summer Weather Camp in D.C., so I’ve been (very) busy lately…. I just happened to see this post, not going to be around.
Take care all, Go Braves!!!
Peace
cricket
July 17th, 2012
7:20 pm
yes McCann should’ve made better throw on a pitch out but the runner was still out. this is not gymnastics, no points awarded for degree of difficulty. if you get someone out, he’s out, doesn’t matter if it doesn’t look smooth.
TNScott
July 17th, 2012
7:20 pm
Umps 1 Braves 0
BravesQueen
July 17th, 2012
7:20 pm
Shoulda figured that missed out call at second would come back to bite ‘em. Ugh!