Improved rotation, deeper lineup = 7-game Braves win streak

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ncscoots

July 18th, 2012
11:59 am

You know, I’m thinking back to Teixeira. People here whine about “rentals”, and then whine about paying a game-changing difference-maker game-changing-difference-maker money. Many folks cry about not signing Teixeira, but conveniently forget how much the Braves (reportedly) offered him. More than Texas, which would put the offer at $140MM or more. I’m sure that plenty of folks would have also cried “too much” at that.

so, it occurs to me that many of our folks are just like an evil ex-spouse: “I not only want everything you own, I want everything you’re gonna own. And then I want you to kick in a little extra for a tip.” We want impact players, who are willing to sign long-term contracts, as long as the value of that contract is below market-value. Short of that, well, we’re just…not…interested. :-)

Steve from OH

July 18th, 2012
12:00 pm

What if the Braves trade for a starter this week? Would Minor be booted in favor of Jurrjens?

I wouldn’t, and I doubt the FO would either. FW loves him some Polished.

George

July 18th, 2012
12:00 pm

Brian from SC

July 18th, 2012
11:55 am
I thought they were up a bit , but was surprised how much,3,060 per game.

Nova Scotia Steve

July 18th, 2012
12:03 pm

RE: Rental Players

So when exactly do you “go for it” as an organization? In order to win and win in the playoffs the Braves need a proven top of the rotation arm before the deadline.

Hanson’s ERA is 4.02 and Hudson is leading the rotation with a 3.80 ERA.

The Braves need another arm in addition to Sheets (who still has a lot to prove) in order to go head to head with the big dogs.

I’m all for giving up some young talent for a chance to win – we’re not going to sell the farm like the Tex deal but you have to give talent to get talent. The Braves are in a position to do just that why not give it a shot.

AND I think they will. I believe Ryan Dempster will end up with the Braves.

unbelievable

July 18th, 2012
12:03 pm

Dont see how you could justify keeping Jurrjens over anyone.

DAP

July 18th, 2012
12:04 pm

danga At this point, JJ non-tender or no?

i say no.

DS1Jurrjens will get at least 1 more start.

he’ll get plenty more than that, unless he gets hurt or something.

PureATL

July 18th, 2012
12:05 pm

Happy Birthday to Mr. Ben Sheets

Nova Scotia Steve

July 18th, 2012
12:05 pm

I think if we made a deal for a starter – Jurrjens might be the odd man out once again. Depending on who is moved in a potential deal.

I think we are all wll aware that Minor or Delgado will be part of any significant trade.

Braves Fan in Maine

July 18th, 2012
12:06 pm

Michael (Huntsville, AL)

Do you see both sides agreeing to swap Grienke for Delgado/Teheran and another B prospect? That’s obviously assuming that Wren believes he can sign Grienke going forward. I don’t see Minor being included in the deal as the Braves still have faith in him. At least more than Delgado.
David Schoenfield (2:48 PM)

I don’t think the Braves would be in the running to sign Greinke long-term. Libery Media (owners) keeps the payroll pretty tight.

Found this on espn site…… I still believe that Liberty Media is going to hurt us…. they decide and write the paychecks….. lets hope they decide to sell them

ncgary

July 18th, 2012
12:07 pm

ncbravesfan90

July 18th, 2012
12:07 pm

“he’ll get plenty more than that, unless he gets hurt or something.”

With Gwinnett or team he will.

ncbravesfan90

July 18th, 2012
12:07 pm

“he’ll get plenty more than that, unless he gets hurt or something.”

With Gwinnett or another team he will.

Wow

July 18th, 2012
12:08 pm

You’re kidding yourselves if you think Jurrjens is going to be booted now. In their heads, Jurrjens has pitched good since coming back up and this was just a hiccup. If he has a couple of more starts like this back to back, then yeah, he’s out, but not now.

Murph

July 18th, 2012
12:09 pm

What if the Braves trade for a starter this week? Would Minor be booted in favor of Jurrjens?

Man, that’s like picking between a kick in the balls and a punch in the balls.

I guess I’d take the punch in the balls. Not sure who out of Minor/Jurrjens is which, though.

CrαZy

July 18th, 2012
12:09 pm

JJ has been pretty good since he returned… The biggest difference last night was he couldn’t locate the FB low and on a corner like he did in his previous 3 or 4 starts. I think he’ll stay in he rotation over one of the young guys if we make a move for another starter.

CrαZy

July 18th, 2012
12:10 pm

What if the Braves trade for a starter this week? Would Minor be booted in favor of Jurrjens?

I think if we make a move it’ll probably include Minor so that might make the decision easy!!

Lew

July 18th, 2012
12:11 pm

The odd man out would be MInor who has Options left. JJ either sinks or swims this time. They’ll keep him up in hopes he performs well enough to trade for someone – anyone.

Brian from SC

July 18th, 2012
12:12 pm

Jurrjens pitched well in Boston. He hasn’t pitched well, but gotten OK results, in his starts since. Last night, he got the bad results as well as the bad performance.

Brian from SC

July 18th, 2012
12:12 pm

JJ has options left…in fact, he’s already been sent down once this year.

Arkansas Transplant

July 18th, 2012
12:12 pm

When is that move going to be made?

Lew

July 18th, 2012
12:15 pm

Brian – Yes, he does. But how do the Braves benefit from a potential trade if he can’t stick in the bigs? MInor talked the talk and didn’t walk the walk. He’ll go down and if he’s smart he’ll STFU and learn from the experience. At this point, what is the purpose of sending Jurrjens back down? To convince him he’s toast and will be non tendered?

unbelievable

July 18th, 2012
12:16 pm

I think Minor stays. Both Minor and Jurrjens have options left.

Frankie

July 18th, 2012
12:16 pm

I think a lot actually depends on tonight. My gut feeling is that Minor pitches well tonight. If so and they acquire a starter, send JJ back down. He pitched great in Boston but I thought he had a way generous strike zone. Gave up 9 hits in 5 innings next outing although Uggla’s defense didn’t help him.

I have more confidence in Minor than JJ although that can be reversed with a bad outing tonight. I think he pitches well.

Lew

July 18th, 2012
12:17 pm

Not to mention that last night notwithstanding, JJ has been better sinc ehe returned than MInor has been for quite a while.

Brian from SC

July 18th, 2012
12:17 pm

At this point, what is the purpose of sending Jurrjens back down? To convince him he’s toast and will be non tendered?

To give the Braves the best 5-man rotation possible. I think Minor and Delgado are both better pitchers than Jurrjens right now.

The likelihood of Jurrjens being traded to anyone this season or this off-season is very remote.

Wow

July 18th, 2012
12:18 pm

I have no love for Minor. He talked a lot of crap during ST and yet, still continued to suck. Big surprise.

He can be traded for some big league chew for all I care.

DAP

July 18th, 2012
12:18 pm

even after jurrjens got lit up last night, his ERA since coming back is 4.40. only time hudson has a lower ERA over his last 5 starts. im guessing the Braves arent looking at his season as a whole when considering to keep him in the rotation, but more likely will look at what he has done since coming back up.

Lew

July 18th, 2012
12:20 pm

Remote? Maybe so. Maybe even most certainly. However, if he’s sent down again, count on him having value and no chance of anything other than non tendering him. At least if he remains up he has the potential to bring something in return. If sent down, they concede he’s worthless and gone and tlls every other MLB team that is their intention..

Lew

July 18th, 2012
12:20 pm

Excuse me – having NO value if sent down again.

DAP

July 18th, 2012
12:21 pm

teams ERA in last 5 starts:

Tim Hudson: 3.60

Jair Jurrjens: 4.40

Mike Minor: 4.66

Randall Delgado: 5.18

Tommy Hanson: 5.87

Lew

July 18th, 2012
12:23 pm

And don’t take my argument as being in favor of retaining JJ. I really don’t care – never did think he’d be a Brave long term not even when he was good.

David O'Brien

July 18th, 2012
12:23 pm

In his past 18 home games (since June 11), Uggla is 5-for-57 (.088) with no homers, two RBIs, 26 strikeouts, .123 slugging percentage.

MFin04

July 18th, 2012
12:23 pm

DAP – So perhaps when the trade is made…Tommy Hanson gets the boot to AAA? :)

Ahh don’t let the stats and facts get in the way.

Brian from SC

July 18th, 2012
12:23 pm

In their last 5 starts (Jurrjens’ span since coming back from AAA):

Minor: 29 IP, 7.1 K/9, 4.3 BB/9, 7.1 H/9, 1.276 WHIP, 1.5 HR/9
Jurrjens: 28.2 IP 3.5 K/9, 2.5 BB/9, 10.0 H/9, 1.395 WHIP, .03 HR/9

I give the edge to Minor.

Frankie

July 18th, 2012
12:23 pm

JJ’s confidence and intensity is a fraction of what he was. I recall him in Shea(maybe his first or second season) just having a demeanor like a seasoned vet and just delivering under a difficult environment. Smoltz like demeanor. At that time thought man this kid would hold up great in playoff pressure games. Never got the opportunity. His presence on the mound is nowhere what it use to be. Confidence is what it adds up too or lack of it right now.

unbelievable

July 18th, 2012
12:25 pm

I doubt the Braves will only consider ERA as their factor of who stays in the rotation. Lets compare their past 5 starts which is how many JJ has made since coming back

Jurrjens – 28.2IP 32H 14ER 8BB 11K
Minor – 29IP 23H 15ER 14BB 23K

MFin04

July 18th, 2012
12:25 pm

“In his past 18 home games (since June 11), Uggla is 5-for-57 (.088) with no homers, two RBIs, 26 strikeouts, .123 slugging percentage”

I take it you aren’t counting his dominant performance in the ASG? You certainly should, the game does count for World Series home field advantage. :roll:

unbelievable

July 18th, 2012
12:25 pm

Guess Brian posted the same thing.

Brian from SC

July 18th, 2012
12:25 pm

I agree that sending Jurrjens back down would not help his confidence or trade value, if he has any of either left. But to me, the best 5-man rotation the Braves have right now to try to make the postseason, and especially if the Braves acquire another starter, does not include Jurrjens.

Lew

July 18th, 2012
12:25 pm

Frankie – Sitting in the dugout last night after he was taken out of the game, he did look somewhat dazed and ven shell shocked. You might be on to something with his confidence being at a low point.

ChattTownBrian

July 18th, 2012
12:27 pm

So DOB, what you’re saying is that if you are planning on heading to TF to see a Uggla homerun, you’re shyt out of luck?

Lew

July 18th, 2012
12:27 pm

rian – Like I said – not advocating for Jurrjens. I just believe that if sent down, he’s done and we get nothing – not even a used knee brace,

Lew

July 18th, 2012
12:28 pm

Of course, I thought he was done when they sent him down last time. I was kind of wrong on that call.

unbelievable

July 18th, 2012
12:28 pm

At least if he remains up he has the potential to bring something in return. – Lew

No one would trade for the guy in the past offseason and everyone had legit concerns about his health. The Braves have two weeks until the trade deadline. Anyone really think a contending team would see value in the guy before that time is up?

DAP

July 18th, 2012
12:29 pm

MFin04 So perhaps when the trade is made…Tommy Hanson gets the boot to AAA?

yeah, i guess if you are taking recent results. i wouldnt do that though. personally, if we get a starter, im sending down mike minor, or maybe he is in the trade.

when it comes to tendering jurrjens a contract after this season, obviously you have to wait and see how the rest of the season plays out, but if i was making the decision, and jurrjens was healthy, by all accounts, id tender him. its one more year of a solid veteran. worth a shot, to me.

Brian from SC

July 18th, 2012
12:29 pm

Like I said, JJ has gotten OK results in his last few starts, which the 4.40 ERA attests to. But according to how he’s pitched, he’s been very fortunate to get those results, which were not sustainable without him being able to miss more bats. Last night’s a good example of what happens when teams have no trouble making contact with whatever you throw. Balls are going to find holes.

Arkansas Transplant

July 18th, 2012
12:31 pm

The scariest number in those Uggla’s stats is his rbis. 2 in 18 games from the guy you signed to be our run producer.

David O'Brien

July 18th, 2012
12:31 pm

MFin04 So perhaps when the trade is made…Tommy Hanson gets the boot to AAA?

That’s not happening.

MFin04

July 18th, 2012
12:32 pm

“His presence on the mound is nowhere what it use to be. Confidence is what it adds up too or lack of it right now.”

Disagree. I think he is confident…just a lot of other crap went wrong yesterday, but nothing to do with confidence, location and outside influences played a huge part.

ChattTownBrian

July 18th, 2012
12:32 pm

With Uggla I think it starts to become a matter of stubborness. Streaky is one thing, swinging for the 500 ft homerun every time is another. Granted, he does still take some walks, so that is a good thing. But, he gets tons of booes from the conservative Atlanta crowds for a reason. The guy is obviously beyond stubborn. Andruw/Frenchy like.

DAP

July 18th, 2012
12:33 pm

unbelievable I doubt the Braves will only consider ERA as their factor of who stays in the rotation

probably not, and im not trying to make that judgement based on ERA. just pointing out that jurrjens has pitched well since coming back up, overall.

Frankie

July 18th, 2012
12:34 pm

“The scariest number in those Uggla’s stats is his rbis. 2 in 18 games from the guy you signed to be our run producer.”

Wow, that just cannot continue. He’s got to get it going now.

Brian from SC

July 18th, 2012
12:34 pm

just pointing out that jurrjens has pitched well since coming back up, overall.

I look at his performance and see the opposite. He has been better than he was before the AAA, but still poor overall.

MFin04

July 18th, 2012
12:36 pm

People actually thought the Hanson comment was serious, kinda funny. Which means there is at least some merit to it, or no one would have said anything. Nah I wouldn’t send him down. Minor makes the most sense to send down.

It is kinda ironic how much stock people put in 1 bad start, but not in 4 good starts. Not to mention the 1 bad start had a bunch of outside factors that don’t usually occur in one game that consistently. Bad defense, missed first base, bad umpiring, bad location. Anyone would have a bad start when all of those factors collide.

rico carty

July 18th, 2012
12:36 pm

There’s another way to look at this. Instead of trading top-flight (what we think is top flight) young pitching talent for Dempster or Greinke and going through the hassle of trying to sign either one long-term and adding a lot to the payroll, we could try to out-score the opposition. How about going after Justin Upton (nice OF with him, Bourn, and Heyward) and another right-handed bat off the bench? Olney suggested a Prado for Upton swap a week or so ago. I like Prado but Upton is still young and still has the chance to be special. If Bourn leaves, you still have Upton and wouldn’t be forced to spend a bundle. Remember Tom Glavine? Maybe Minor, Teheran, Delgado need that one “prep” year. We might not make the playoffs this year–we could if Huddy, JJ, and Hanson come around–but we would be set for ‘13 and beyond.

ACE

July 18th, 2012
12:36 pm

Why do all these people keep saying we should get rid of Uggla? He is going to be your second baseman for the next three seasons. The braves would have to eat a huge amount of his contract for anyone to consider a deal.

DAP

July 18th, 2012
12:37 pm

brian from SC, totally agree on the K rate. its really bad right now, about 3.8 K/9 since hes been back, right? its dangerously low.

CrαZy

July 18th, 2012
12:37 pm

Is Uggla in a worse slump now than his “career worst slump” from last year?

Brian from SC

July 18th, 2012
12:37 pm

Agreed, ACE. Uggla is not really a tradeable player with so much contract left.

unbelievable

July 18th, 2012
12:37 pm

when it comes to tendering jurrjens a contract after this season, obviously you have to wait and see how the rest of the season plays out, but if i was making the decision, and jurrjens was healthy, by all accounts, id tender him. its one more year of a solid veteran. worth a shot, to me.

Not saying you are wrong, but I wouldnt do that. There is a huge list of FA starters this offseason and I think a $7 mil gamble could be better spent on another starter. You could probably get Dempster, Marcum, Correia, Lewis, and many others for a better value. At the end of the day JJ is not healthy and has major concerns. Best case scenario is he gets that knee fixed this offseason and agrees to sign for much less. If not, he’s non tendered.

ChattTownBrian

July 18th, 2012
12:39 pm

To me the scariest thing about Uggla’s nummbers is that he will keep being thrown into the lineup every day. Reason is because he went on there hot streak on July 5th last year after a horrible start. Can’t exactly blame them because he can carry an offense. What if he stays this bad though? Prado at 2nd, get a LF and have Uggla sit on the bench. Never going to happen though.

ACE

July 18th, 2012
12:40 pm

With Fredi as manager it doen’t really matter who is playing second.

Bat Masterson

July 18th, 2012
12:40 pm

I like JJ but I would take Minor, Delgado, Meldeen, the top two in AAA, damn near anyone over him. If the Braves just cut him loose today I don’t think it would be a big deal.

Brian from SC

July 18th, 2012
12:41 pm

Yes, DAP. With a K/9 rate under 4, for a fly ball pitcher, you’re just asking to get blown up every time you take the mound.

When your fastball and changeup have only 4-5 mph of separation and your breaking ball is flattened out, you don’t have much of a chance.

unbelievable

July 18th, 2012
12:42 pm

It is kinda ironic how much stock people put in 1 bad start-MFin04

Or one good one. How much have we heard about the Sheets start? I could be wrong but werent you one of the ones that was nonstop about his start? Fact of the matter is JJ has been awful in the majors and in the minors this year. Yes, he had 1 good start and a couple of decent ones since coming back up. At the end of the day, he’s still not healthy and shouldnt really be counted on moving forward.

JoeFan

July 18th, 2012
12:42 pm

Minor is going no where. He is a left handed starter who is learning on the job much like Glavine. He has flashed impressive results several times and is more of a pitcher at this point than either Teheran or Delgado. Even if the Braves landed a legitimate Ace, he can only pitch every 5th day and they are still going to have to overcome a very average starting rotation. Possibly the offense and bullpen will be enough to do that and get them a wildcard slot. The off season will be the opportunity to remake this team and Wren want squander that chance with a stupid trade now.

DAP

July 18th, 2012
12:43 pm

unbelieveable I think a $7 mil gamble could be better spent on another starter. You could probably get Dempster, Marcum, Correia, Lewis, and many others for a better value

and that, i disagree with, other than maybe correia, who isnt going to pitch better than jurrjens. even if you could get dempster or these other guys for $7mil it aint gonna be for 1 year.

Frankie

July 18th, 2012
12:43 pm

I was actually very surprised JJ went 7 innings outing prior to last night. Before that, his previous couple of starts balls were hit hard but at people. He looked pretty good in the Philly outing.

ACE

July 18th, 2012
12:44 pm

STeve Avery hit his peak and started to slide, same thing seems to be happening to JJ.

Hillbilly

July 18th, 2012
12:44 pm

I’ve noticed a couple of long fly ball outs to dead center (one in the AS Game) and a hard hit foul or two from Uggla in the past week or so. I feel like he’s close to breaking out…maybe not a 33 straight-game breakout but an improvement nonetheless. Seems like he’s just missing some pitches lately, rather than just pop-up after pop-up like it was.

Frankie

July 18th, 2012
12:47 pm

Wren will wait and see how Sheets performs on Friday to decide what he needs to address. Unfortunately Dempster gets dealt before then so not sure if he acts. If Sheets gives the team a good outing, they are in aggressive mode and will do what it takes to win this season. A top of line or #2 makes this team very strong if Sheets is your 4th starter. Can also live with Minor as your 5 if he survives the carnage of wheeling and dealing.

MVPrado14

July 18th, 2012
12:48 pm

Interesting name being thrown around on ESPN.com as someone who should be made available at the trade deadline (but more than likely won’t)

King Felix

Would cost the farm, but there’s a #1 starter the likes that we have not seen in Atlanta since the days of the Big Three

MFin04

July 18th, 2012
12:48 pm

In regards to Uggla, the one thing I noticed early on this year is he was locked in seeing the ball. Currently, it seems like he is taking strikes and swinging at balls. Just no pitch recognition. Lot of strikeouts looking on pitches IN the zone.

Brian from SC

July 18th, 2012
12:52 pm

I don’t think the Braves have the pieces to get Felix Hernandez, even if they wanted to try.

ncscoots

July 18th, 2012
12:58 pm

Currently, it seems like he is taking strikes and swinging at balls.

Kinda hard to reconcile that with the number of walks he’s taken. Does not compute, especially in July.

You’ll have to find another reason for his suckage. :-)

Arkansas Transplant

July 18th, 2012
1:05 pm

Kinda hard to reconcile that with the number of walks he’s taken. Does not compute, especially in July.

I have to agree.

ncscoots

July 18th, 2012
1:05 pm

Uggla hit .280 or so for the first six weks, and averaged a K about every 3.8 PAs. In July, he’s hitting a buck-fourteen and averaging a K about, you guessed it, every 3.8 PAs.

He’s not striking out any more or any less, MF. He just can’t get the barrel on the ball with any frequency.

Dadgum.......

July 18th, 2012
1:07 pm

Look folks with Hudson, Hanson, JJ, Minor, Sheets, Delgado, Teheran, and I’ll even add Medlen none of them start for start is considered a #1 starter and I’ll even argue a #2 starter if the Braves expect to be World Series worthy. Just ain’t gonna happen. What it is is a bunch of good #3-5 starters or trade material to be honest. So if we trade some of the above for Greinke/Dumpster/Garza/Liriano and Beachy gets back late 2013 then what is still remaining from the above not traded will indeed be 3-5 starters. So for me it’s no big deal who we give up to get said #1 just that we get him. Without him the Braves are going nowhere this year or next.

MFin04

July 18th, 2012
1:08 pm

ncscoots – Could have been earlier in his slump when I actually watched his at bats…but he has had a number of at bats where he is taking fastballs down the middle and just stands there confused. Think he had one of those last night when he dropped the F bomb on live tv into the mic.

Arkansas Transplant

July 18th, 2012
1:08 pm

I really like Uggla.. I just don’t like his results. Then you take those results and look at the amount of space on payroll his salary eats and it’s just plain painful. I’d be perfectly okay if he was making somewhere around 5 a year but that ain’t happening.

Arkansas Transplant

July 18th, 2012
1:11 pm

He just can’t get the barrel on the ball with any frequency.

Problem is.. this is an enigma with him.

DAP

July 18th, 2012
1:12 pm

scoots He’s not striking out any more or any less, MF. He just can’t get the barrel on the ball with any frequency.

he IS striking out more than usual as far as his career goes. only in 2008 did he K more often. but in 2008 he also slugged .514.

his walk % is way up career wise. his line drive % is way up. his HR/FB ratio is down, though. kinda of a weird year for him all around, and ive got to think its fixin to normalize.

George

July 18th, 2012
1:13 pm

Frankie

July 18th, 2012
12:34 pm
“The scariest number in those Uggla’s stats is his rbis. 2 in 18 games from the guy you signed to be our run producer.”

Wow, that just cannot continue. He’s got to get it going now.
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The sadest thing is in a year and a little over a half we only have gotten about two good months out of him. the first half last year was awfull then he had a good July and Aug but then slumped with rest of
team in Sept.

MFin04

July 18th, 2012
1:13 pm

“He’s not striking out any more or any less”

I didn’t say he was striking out any more or any less. But these have been non-swinging strikeouts were he just can’t believe the ball went right down the middle. I get guys swinging and missing, but these as of late just look like he can’t see the ball well or something. Not seeing the ball well very well could be the reason he isn’t getting good contact either…

DAP

July 18th, 2012
1:14 pm

dadgum none of them start for start is considered a #1 starter and I’ll even argue a #2 starter if the Braves expect to be World Series worthy.

there is more than one way to win a world series.

MFin04

July 18th, 2012
1:17 pm

Uggla’s career numbers with the Braves…not good…

In ~250 Games:
.229 .326 .432 .758

MFin04

July 18th, 2012
1:18 pm

Pre-Braves numbers:
.263 .349 .488 .837

Brian from SC

July 18th, 2012
1:20 pm

Uggla still does have the fourth-highest OPS among NL second basemen over the last two years.

George

July 18th, 2012
1:20 pm

MFin04

July 18th, 2012
1:17 pm
Uggla’s career numbers with the Braves…not good…

In ~250 Games:
.229 .326 .432 .758
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Kinda awfull. wonder how they match up with OMAR’s over past year and a half?

ncscoots

July 18th, 2012
1:20 pm

kinda of a weird year for him all around, and ive got to think its fixin to normalize.

Exactly. I said the other day that he’s a quarter-inch from going beast, and I stick with that. :-)

abeeewright

July 18th, 2012
1:21 pm

The Braves really stunk yesterday. That was sewer quality stinkage. I mean, they really stunk.

Still, would rather lose 9-0 than 1-0.

Hope they put the stinker behind them tonight and get back to winning games.

ncscoots

July 18th, 2012
1:25 pm

he IS striking out more than usual as far as his career goes.

DAP, MF was talking about this year, so, technically, I was correct, LOL.

Arkansas Transplant

July 18th, 2012
1:27 pm

We’d be best served trading Uggla and clearing that money off payroll. I’d be willing to do it this year for the right price. Detroit might take him off our hands, they’ve been looking for a second basemen. How about Uggla and Terdo for Castellanos and one of their outfielders? Possibly Young. Then move Prado back to 2nd and Young to LF?

George

July 18th, 2012
1:27 pm

OMAR’s numbers with MIA .279 .313 .405 .718.

Brian from SC

July 18th, 2012
1:27 pm

George, they’re actually better overall than Infante’s over the same period.

Braveone

July 18th, 2012
1:27 pm

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15 Woody Woodward 50
16 Bobby H 49
17 Frankie 45
18 BravesfaninAugusta 43
19 Mark 43
20 richbrave 43
21 bravesgrl4life 41
22 jeffrey d 41
23 Murph 38
24 Lew 35
25 Tomahawkin 34

Jimmy

July 18th, 2012
1:28 pm

JJ could have pitched 9 innings of shutout ball, and he still wouldn’t have got the win.

So, trading for an ACE SP is what we need? That’ll push us over the hump?

Last night was one game. We lost. Lets move on.

unbelievable

July 18th, 2012
1:28 pm

How’s the weather look for the game. Been raining here in Birmingham AL all morning.

MFin04

July 18th, 2012
1:28 pm

ncscoots – No you were wrong, in that I didn’t say he was striking out more, just that he wasn’t seeing the ball as well now. Just doesn’t have very good pitch recognition right now.

George

July 18th, 2012
1:31 pm

Brian from SC

July 18th, 2012
1:27 pm
You are right OMAR has better BA. but power and OPS lower.

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