Braves’ win streak ends with thud in 9-0 loss to Giants

Though Jair Jurrjens was 3-0 with a 2.13 ERA in his first four starts after returning from Triple-A, and Ben Sheets pitched six scoreless innings Sunday against to win his first major league start in two years, the Braves have continued exploring possible trades for a front-line starting pitcher.

Tuesday night served as a reminder why.

Jurrjens was charged with eight runs and eight hits in 3-1/3 innings as the Braves’ seven-game winning streak ended with the thud of a 9-0 loss to the San Francisco Giants in a series opener at Turner Field.

“I didn’t have my command,” said Jurrjens (3-3), who had three walks and one strikeout and saw his ERA soar back to 6.20. “I was battling to get strike 1. They’re a good team, and I made a lot of bad pitches and they got hit…. That was a tough one. That’s a game for us to put behind us.”

The Braves made defensive mistakes — including one by Jurrjens — in addition to their struggles at the plate and on the mound.

“It’s probably one of the ugliest games we’ve played in a while,” said manager Fredi Gonzalez, whose second-place Braves slipped back to 3-1/2 games behind National League East leader Washington after the Nationals beat the Mets.

Leesburg native Buster Posey had three hits and five RBIs for the Giants in the first four innings, including a three-run double off rookie Luis Avilan to cap a six-run fourth inning for an 8-0 lead.

Giants starter Barry Zito (8-6) allowed just three hits in seven innings and improved to 4-0 with a 1.63 ERA in five career starts at Turner Field. The veteran left-hander is 4-1 in six overall starts against Atlanta.

“He’s got that slower-than-slow change-up, the front-door and back-door cutter, the straight one,” Braves third baseman Chipper Jones said. “But we just played sloppy. Sloppy. That’s the word for today, sloppy. We were sloppy on the mound, we were sloppy in the field, we were sloppy at the plate…. It’s disappointing. And nobody was exempt tonight.”

The Braves scored six or more runs five times during their seven-game winning streak, but against Zito they got only one runner past first base until Freddie Freeman’s two-out double in the seventh. Martin Prado’s fourth-inning single was their first hit.

“We just couldn’t get anything going,” second baseman Dan Uggla said. “[Zito] mixes it up. Still got a good curveball. Just kind of picks and picks and picks. He had us in a position where we had to hit his pitch, and he made pitches when he needed to all night.  He kept us off balance. Sometimes, like my first at-bat, I had a great count and a good pitch to hit, and I just missed it by a hair. Should have been 2-1 right there. That’s the way the night went.”

Jurrjens had allowed only six earned runs in 25-1/3 innings in his first four starts since returning from a two-month minor league stint. But on Tuesday he reverted to something closer to his early season form, when he had a 9.37 ERA in four April starts before being demoted to Triple-A Gwinnett.

“I think his command … wasn’t as good as we’ve seen it before,” Gonzalez said of Jurrjens, who pitched on four extra days’ rest following the All-Star break. “It just happened to be one of those days, whether it’s the long layoff between starts, but he just wasn’t the same and they took advantage.”

Although the Braves had a 3.00 ERA during the seven-game winning streak, they’ve given up 22 earned runs in 36 innings over their past four games. Sheets’ outing Sunday was the Braves’ only quality start in that four-game stretch. In the other three of their past four games, starters Tim Hudson, Tommy Hanson and Jurrjens have allowed 18 earned runs in 12-2/3 innings.

The eight runs were Jurrjens’ season-high, and it was his second-shortest outing. He lasted three innings (five runs, nine hits) in an April 23 loss against the Dodgers in Los Angeles, and was optioned to Gwinnett after the game.

He’d had encouraging performances since returning to the majors, including 7-2/3 innings of three-hit ball at Boston in his first game back. But he has only 11 strikeouts in 28-2/3 innings since he returned, and has allowed 23 hits in 15-1/3 innings over his past three starts.

Jurrjens was victimized early on by sketchy defense and an umpire’s close call, but by the fourth inning the Giants were teeing off. His fastball velocity was down a tick or two from his previous starts, and he plenty of breaking balls that lacked bite in addition to 86-88 mph fastballs that weren’t located well.

“I just know my command wasn’t there,” Jurrjens said. “I can throw hard or throw slow, if I throw it down the middle everybody is going to hit it. It’s not my velocity, it’s just my command.”

He also hurt himself when he failed to cover first base properly on Angel Pagan’s grounder to start the fourth inning, when Jurrjens scrambled to catch first baseman Freddie Freeman’s throw and missed the base with his foot.

The last three runs on his ledger were driven in by Posey against Avilan, after the former Lee County High star drove in a pair of runs against Jurrjens with a double in the first inning and single in the third.

Posey was the 2010 National League Rookie of the Year over Atlanta’s Jason Heyward, who played for Henry County High when it beat Posey and Lee County in a 2005 Georgia state championship series.

Posey missed much of the 2011 season after a major knee injury, but the catcher made the All-Star team again this season. He started at first base Tuesday, where he’s played 15 games this season as the Giants sought ways to keep his bat in the lineup.

He was the first batter faced by Avilan, a left-hander who was brought in after Jurrjens gave up five hits and a walk to the first seven batters of the inning. Braves manager Fredi Gonzalez brought in Avilan to face him, even though Posey had a .367 average and 1.022 on-base-plus-slugging percentage against lefties before his bases-clearing double off the rookie.

“Yeah it’s a tough spot to put the young man in,” Gonzalez said of Avilan, who had faced one batter in his major league career before Tuesday. “It’s tough, but I think the kid did a nice job settling down after that, and he gave us a pretty good outing.”

Avilan stayed in for 3-2/3 innings and collected five strikeouts. He was charged with five hits and one run in an impressive second appearance. But the damage was done after the first of those hits, which Posey drove to the left-center gap with the bases loaded.

85 comments Add your comment

Carl Farvman

July 17th, 2012
10:15 pm

OTP

July 17th, 2012
10:21 pm

It just was not to be tonight. Maybe they thought it was Monday.

Taylor Wooten

July 17th, 2012
10:21 pm

What is the deal with Jurgens? He only throwing around 87mph FB. What the heck? Something is wrong….a good high school team would light him up.

I smell trouble.

DaveinNEPA

July 17th, 2012
10:22 pm

No other way to describe it. This game was a stinker right from the get-go.

Yogi Berra

July 17th, 2012
10:24 pm

It is what it is!

WTF

July 17th, 2012
10:24 pm

After giving up the lead in the top of the 9th, the Nats come back to tie in the 9th and 10th, then win. That’s something the Braves do VERY LITTLE OF……

Felix

July 17th, 2012
10:25 pm

I missed the game tonight and am delighted I did. Sounds like about everything went wrong. Sloppy defense, pathetic offense and J.J. decided to be the Giants’ batting practice pitcher tonight.

Andrelton Simmons

July 17th, 2012
10:26 pm

Well Braves fans shouldn’t be surprised by a terrible start by JJ. He may have pitched well for a few starts in a row but the advanced stats show he was pretty lucky and that he wouldn’t be anywhere near that good the rest of the season. This is the kinda pitcher JJ is now he might throw a few solid starts together, but then he’ll throw a couple terrible starts together right after it. The Braves starting pitching has been mediocre all year long and will continue to be mediocre unless they pick up a starter or TWO.

Steve

July 17th, 2012
10:35 pm

Carl I assure you nobody cares if you are first.

Brent

July 17th, 2012
10:35 pm

Freakin Zito beat them all by himself with an rbi of his own!!!

tom

July 17th, 2012
10:35 pm

tom

July 17th, 2012
10:37 pm

might be time to send JJ to miwaukee for grienke on my MLB Show 2012…….

P. T. Barnum

July 17th, 2012
10:44 pm

Might be time to send JJ anywhere but here. Back to his earlier pitching style. I shut the game off early, too painful to watch. JJ has to go, Minor is iffy, Sheets pitched 6 good innings, but how about the next time. Hudson is spotty as is Hansom. delgado got lit up down in Gwinnett the other day. The Braves need a first rate pitcher if they hope to make a run for the playoffs. Back to the braves of 2 weeks ago.

space monkey

July 17th, 2012
10:50 pm

Stop saying this game wasn’t JJ’s fault. I swear at one point in the horrible third inning he threw an 81mph fastball. If it wasn’t a fastball, it was the worst changeup I’ve ever seen. Not only that he was elevating his weak cheese and telegraphing his other pitches. If we’d been playing a good hitting team, the score would have been 20-0. He was horrible.

Andrelton Simmons

July 17th, 2012
10:52 pm

Also forgot to mention Jason Heyward’s hot/power streak is officially over.

Jason Heyward tied his longest game streak of the season without hitting an XBH, which after tonight extended to 7 games. Over the entire month of July he’s on hit 2 XBH both of which were within the 1st five days of the month.

He is also striking out at an alarmingly high rate this month already racking up 15 strikeouts in just 12 games. Over 48 AB’s in July Heyward already has as many strikeouts as he did the entire month of June which was 89 AB’s. That’s scary. Heyward needs to be moved back down in the order and bring Freeman up to 3rd because he’s been killing it. The only time Freeman wasn’t crushing it was when he had the eye injury. Before that he was crushing everything and now that he’s healthy he’s killing it again. He’s a better/more consistent hitter than Heyward, Heyward had just one great month, but other than that he’s been extremely average as a hitter this yr if Freeman hadn’t had that injury he’d be better in every offensive category than JHey like he was before the injury.

Don’t believe all the hype, Heyward is nothing other than a streaky offensive player whose an average hitter a lot more than he is a big time hitter. Heyward had a hot month, but not he’s back to the regular J-Hey that strikes out a ton and hits a meaningless HR every once in a while.

JHey in April – .273 avg, .341 OBP, only 7 XBH, 9 RBI’s, and 8 walks, but he had 20 K’s
JHey in May – .200 avg, .315 OBP, 9 XBH, 14 RBI’s, 14 walks, but he had 30 yes 30 K’s
JHey in June – .348 avg, .379 OBP, 16 XBH, 15 RBI’s, only 5 walks, and only 15 K’s
JHey in July – .270 avg, .339 OBP, 2 XBH, 6 RBI’s, 5 walks, and already 15 K’s.

3 months he’s nothing other than an average at best hitter, but June he was great. Think this shows june was an outlier and April, May, and July are what we should come to expect from “the real” Jason Heyward.

It's over now

July 17th, 2012
10:56 pm

It was JJ’s first bad game since he came back, BUT if he throws another stinker in his next outing, then his run in the ATL might be over. The way the Braves played I thought it was Monday!

the truth...

July 17th, 2012
10:58 pm

It’s DOB’s fault…..Carole had everything under control and Dave comes back and they fall apart………

Shame on you Dave !!!

lee maye

July 17th, 2012
10:58 pm

The rookie, Avilan, at least has some movement on his pitches. He has 6 K’s in 4 innings. But, he will be sent out as soon as Venters is ready to pitch. And, of course, Anthony V’s days are numbered when Moylan is deemed ready. Got to go with the veterans, you know.
And, no, the rotation has not been solidified lately. Sheets pitched well. Hanson, Hudson, and JJ have been terrible. And, Delgado and Minor have been very inconsistent. We really need 2 starters.

Kofo

July 17th, 2012
10:59 pm

Losing Brandon Beachy will turn out to be the footprint under the window.

bostonbravo

July 17th, 2012
10:59 pm

It wouldn’t matter if Warren Spahn was pitching Bobby was managing, Hank was in center…odds were 1 in 20 Bravos would win 8 in a row. Crappy effort…but at least made me forget how bad Uggla (all-star) sucks.

mpimentel

July 17th, 2012
11:00 pm

Wren will find somebody for sure…lets hope it won’t rip off our young guys such like the tex trade!!…liriano won’t be an upgrade, dempster is to old, greinkie will cost a lot in personal, garza could be the one (young, proven, and less expensive than dempster) but WAIT a minute….there’s the corp of possible addings, theres nobody else? GeeZzz….

NorCal Brave

July 17th, 2012
11:00 pm

When you look at the Giants you realize how dire the Braves starting pitching situation is. The only weak link they’ve had is Lincecum, and he pitched like his old self in his last start. I suppose Greinke would be a good addition, but I see the Brewers are giving him a rest after he got raked in his last three outings.

Paul In Richmond.

July 17th, 2012
11:06 pm

Two things:
First – no pitching can win for you when you are shut out.
Second – the Giants stole bases, made singles into doubles and ran out infield hits….ALL of which paid off tonight. Wish we would play that aggressively on offense. Instead of whining about pitching.

fan

July 17th, 2012
11:06 pm

jj aint going to make it i don’t think. what happened to the kris medlen as starter plan?

BravesfaninAugusta

July 17th, 2012
11:11 pm

2nd Lee Maye’s comments…. the Braves NEVER stick with the youngsters unless they are forced to. Blanco was sent down repeatedly, look what he is doing…. Constanza was never given a fair shake and now they wait for that oh-so-lovable but oh-so-hittable Moylan to come back and they’ll send down
Avilan and/or Varvaro. Give us a team we want to root for!!! Like more youngsters like Simba…. I’m tired of McCann and Uggla

BravesfaninAugusta

July 17th, 2012
11:12 pm

#Braves manager Gonzalez on bringing in Avilan to face left-killer Posey: “It’s a tough spot to put the young man in.”

SO WHY DID FREDIOT PUT HIM IN THAT SPOT???????????

YOURanIDIOT[SIC]

July 17th, 2012
11:14 pm

Does anyone EVER proofread ANYTHING before it gets published on AJC.com???????

Largo

July 17th, 2012
11:16 pm

One way to improve the team is to give JJ his walking papers. How long does it take for the Braves to realize he is no longer a major league pitcher. A couple of times he got by with his junk but normally he is a disaster waiting to happen.

mpimentel

July 17th, 2012
11:22 pm

I think that the front office will wait another start fron jj to make or not make a move …wich will be a bad move ( if they won’t make a move) did I make myself clear?

nolakid21

July 17th, 2012
11:30 pm

Lol you got Carroll Rogers making stuff up about Jair Jurrjens and his velocity “up a couple of notches” and David saying we don’t need another pitcher for the rotation. I get crucified for using statistics to show that Jair Jurrjens is no more. Good thing is Ryan Dempster said the Braves are at the top of his list of places to go. So hopefully we get some help in SP and bullpen.

whatever

July 17th, 2012
11:50 pm

Giants baby! Giants!

Who Me?

July 17th, 2012
11:51 pm

JJ’s needs a sports psych like Smoltz had with Jack something back when. The guy is a mental midget on the mound for some reason. Maybe he’s bi-polar because you sure can’t depend on getting the same guy on the mound every time he starts. Get him some psychological help, maybe then things will start to even out for him. Whatever it is, he sucked tonight. Just acting like he was totally out of it.

Graham

July 18th, 2012
12:01 am

I know what you mean nolakid, yesterday everyone was on the JJ bandwagon, but it’s quickly fallen apart. JJ has had one good start this year, he was marvelous at Boston, but that’s it. Even his past three he was subpar. I wanted Greinke forever, but I don’t see the “sign-and-extended” working out so that seems to be out the window. The Braves need someone who they can go to war with in October in a matchup against someone like Kershaw, Cain, Strasburg, Sabbathia,Weaver etc. I feel like Dempster could get Atlanta safely to October, but he isn’t who I’d want in game 7. I feel like Atlanta is going to end up with an ace in the next week or so, and maybe not someone who has been speculated about. Wren seems to have a knack for getting the guys nobody knows is available (poor result I know, but like McClouth). I wouldn’t be shocked if we ended up with King Felix (ok yeah a little shocked, but you see my point) something big and unexpected is coming to Atlanta the next two weeks

jocrazy

July 18th, 2012
12:03 am

detroit writers spoke of jurrens not being an allstar pitcher i felt same way not enough velocity to pitch to contact

Grandma Giffin

July 18th, 2012
12:30 am

I loved how nolakid was roasted last night for bringing up valid points about jj that were rightfully concerning,

All that talk from others about how jj just wins games since he came back from the minors. A win for a pitcher is a worthless stat. You have to take a look at some other stats, not just the decision.

Jj has always seemed to get lucky given the amount of guys he lets on base. I guess it is catching up with him now.

nolakid21

July 18th, 2012
12:38 am

The fans on this site are very strange. Some are smart and level headed and then the others are extreme to each degree. Can’t just look at it from a realistic point of view. I just want one of these “reporters” to own up on saying that Grienke had one good year. That is just absurd.

FIRE FREDI

July 18th, 2012
12:43 am

You all know who I blame

FIRE FREDI

July 18th, 2012
12:46 am

Augusta I like Frediot

Grandma Giffin

July 18th, 2012
12:51 am

Braves sign Mike Hampton to minor league deal.

DeepDiver

July 18th, 2012
4:11 am

nolakid was getting murdered yesterday, along with a select few others, for raising some very salient points about JJ and some underlying metrics suggesting that perhaps he had run into some good fortune instead of remembering how to pitch. The Homers were out in full force, vilifying him for not being a ‘true’ Braves fan.

No doubt some of those same people are back today to clamor for JJ’s ouster. The sensational world of the Blogosphere at its finest.

Go Go Pilots

July 18th, 2012
5:03 am

Freddi the manager said this was are worst game we played Um what about the other lost’s u had Phillies are hurt n beat La dodgers while JJ pitch like a Girl..and Bourn fielded lazy and Joe Simpson Talk about bad breaks…..and chip he butt kiss glavine n murphy n freddie as usual…If freddi keeps it up we be watchin again. ..And again are brave sports writers ask No tough questions to freddi the freeloader at helm.. Lets start askin at Top are GM Frank Wren he still can’t figure which finger use best yet!

Charlie

July 18th, 2012
5:39 am

As usual Fredi put the team “in a tough situation”. JJ was crap from pitch one, and Fredi (as usual) waited until the game was out of hand to make (what passes for) a managerial decision.. Fredi proves again, he’s the poorest manager in MLB. Nothing from the neck up. The Braves just mailed this one in, Unprofessional, pitiful, pathetic. Too bad those that the paid admission fans were exposed to that.
“WE COULDN’T GET ANYTHING GOING…” quips WORTHLESS DAN UGGLA. Good comment, Worthless Dan, who hasn’t had “annything going” since the end of May (or the entire first half of last year.) If anyone would realize “We couldn’t get anything going”, it would be Worthless Dan. He is the poster child that.
Some things will never change…Fredi’s decision-making skills, and Worthless Dan / “…couldn’t get anything going…”

Sons of Rick Matula

July 18th, 2012
6:37 am

Jack Lewellyn

Guy

July 18th, 2012
7:15 am

Who else is tired of seeing these guy’s go out with a chance to make a statement that they are in the hunt only to fall on their face. They just can’t get it done when they need to. They will beat up on some so so teams and get you all fired up then when they face the big boys and have a chance to make a statement they get the smack down!

Winchester

July 18th, 2012
7:45 am

We will keep JJ until the season ends and he puts an end to it. You can only hope that a trade will happen that will involve this guy. He’s absolutely horrible and bad karma for this team.

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Zane Smith's Teeth

July 18th, 2012
7:51 am

Was JJ on the juice? How else do you lose that much off your fastball at 26???

Willydoit?

July 18th, 2012
8:21 am

Did anyone else other than Steve notice that carl Farvman was first??

old scout

July 18th, 2012
8:34 am

When you watch your starter warm up in the bullpen before the game (which many good managers do) and he is throwing an 86-87 mph high school fastball with no movement a good manager might a) tell the guy to take the night off, or b) have somebody ready to go in early before the game gets out of hand. Fredi, however, just sat and watched with a dazed look on his face until the damage was done. This probably had a lot to do with the rest of the team just going through the motions for the rest of the game. I suspect Braves players have little respect for Fredi. JJ is delusional if he thinks his problem is location. Location makes little difference when you have such poor stuff. This guy has no future in the major leagues.

Quicherbichin

July 18th, 2012
8:43 am

next thing you know, nolakid wlll be saying that the Giants won because, collectively, their testicles are bigger than those of the Braves and he’ll provide photographic evidence of it.

harry taylor

July 18th, 2012
8:57 am

JJ said,”I wasn’t in command”. Duh!! Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure that out. Typical Braves game.

man and dog

July 18th, 2012
9:01 am

Uggly was at his best Sunday when he was on the bench, which was Gonzo’s best managerial decision of the year. My dead grandma (either one) could hit better than Uggla and my dog could manage a game better than Freddie. Any of this getting through to you Frank? OH,Wait! Your’re the bonehead who brought these two here.

Hack Wilsun

July 18th, 2012
9:02 am

Every Braves Hitter except Prado and the Shortstop are trying to hit a Home Run every at Bat..Uggla will be Hitting under .200 by the end of the week..Braves ain’t going nowhere but to the Bottom of the Division..It’s over..Game Set Match..Maybe next year.

Frank Wren GM Extrordinaire

July 18th, 2012
9:03 am

JJ is solid! Give him a break, remember we got him for Edgar Renteria, EDGAR RENTERIA people! You don’t get Grade A beef for an old mule. I think you all are expecting too much from him.

Rick

July 18th, 2012
9:07 am

Charlie, whether Fredi left Jurrjens in too long or not is irrelevant. The Braves scored 0 runs. It wouldn’t matter if Jurrjens only allowed one run. They still would have lost.

old scout, location was clearly the issue. He left balls up, and the Giants hit them.

Disbott3000

July 18th, 2012
9:08 am

Another start like this and it’s time to consider sending JJ back to Gwinnett until a decent trade can be arranged. I want him to be the guy he was in Boston, but I’m afraid that was the fluke game, not last nights.

Jair Jurrjens

July 18th, 2012
9:20 am

Guys, come on, I had a bad game….So what???? I will lead the Braves to a National League Title and we shall go on to win the World Series…. My Manager (Fredi) is in control so we will be in good shape, no need to panic, we still won 7 in a row right??? Come on guys, we will be just fine…. Wren will put the pieces in place!!! Believe in Me Braves Fans!!!!

jt

July 18th, 2012
9:23 am

“We just couldn’t get anything going,” second baseman Dan Uggla said. You Fat Ass haven’t had anything going since you got to Atlanta. That spurt at end of last year was a “Fluke” Never seen a guy who is paid as much as he is and as pitiful as he is.
Why not trade him and put Prado in at 2nd base with Simmons (when he gets well) at SS. The average for that position would soar, compared to what Uggla has done to it.

Man he “Sucks”

Mikey

July 18th, 2012
9:30 am

8-2 over the last 10 games with a 7 game winning streak, 3.5 behind games out, top of the order coming on strongly, we get shut out by a junk ball pitcher, play sloppy D and conventional wisdom on this blog is Braves are going no where? We just had come from behind victories over Dickey & Santana and held David Wright to 2 meaningless hits and Freddie is an idiot?

southern hope

July 18th, 2012
9:42 am

You can blame JJ for the 9 but you can’t blame him for the 0. We could have had Tommy John himself out there last night & we still would have had zero runs.

Greg

July 18th, 2012
10:01 am

Anyone want to give a little credit to the Giants? They have 5 guys batting above or very close to .300. And Frank, we traded for JJ for giving up EDGAR RENTERIA, yes, the same guy who actually went on to become SF’s World Series MVP in 2010.

wayn-o

July 18th, 2012
10:04 am

Yea Posey deserved the ROY of Heyward.

Psssst, scouts, you picked the wrong ATL native.

bvillebaron

July 18th, 2012
10:11 am

Taylor and Old Scout:

Maybe I watched a different game than you did, but I saw many of Jurrjen’s pitches registering @ 88 and a few as high as 90. The problem wasn’t and isn’t velocity; he simply didn’t have good command. The constant harping by some of you about veloctiy is amusing inasmuch as Zito didn’t throw any fastball faster than 84, but shut out the Braves for 7 innings. How is that possible guys?

Chipper is right; this was a lousy and sloppy game all the way around. One of the other posters probably had it right. Since they were off on Monday, they played like yesterday was a Monday.

blairjoyfulsound

July 18th, 2012
10:52 am

We can’t place ALL the blame on Jurrjens (some, but not all). We only mustered 5 hits. You might can point to some defensive and call miscues that may have distracted him, but I don’t know what we can do to excuse the offense. Even if Jurrjens only gave up the 2 runs prior to the horrid 4th inning, the offense wasn’t on its game.

This was a legit loss that both offense AND defense needed to do better. That being said, I’d rather have a loss like this than a heartbreaker like the Washington game. To get the lead, twice, and STILL manage to hand it to them on a silver platter. Wow…

Let’s go for a new winning streak tonight boys!

Mikey

July 18th, 2012
11:09 am

I guess Barry Zito heating up into the low 80’s with his fastball and shutting out the Braves is of no interest to those who claim JJ is done?

ozzie

July 18th, 2012
11:17 am

Look this is not the end of the world but the reality of what happens when you play a good team.

A seven game win streak against who? Win the last game against the Cubs (series they were only able to split), 3 against an old & banged up Phllies team and the Mets (worst bullpen in all of baseball) who are fading. Nice run but against teams who will be fishing in Oct.

The Braves are a .500 club which will run into a soft part of the schedule and win a bunch then get stunted when they run into teams that will be playing in the post season.

I wasn’t a sloppy game that is an excuse. It is what happens when you play better teams, they actually have a plan to beat you.

Umps stink every day so also not an excuse.

The Braves are a solid team but they are short a few key pieces in the rotation and at the plate (bench and or starters who are inconsistent).

This also is not new.

They cannot win them all but they will be prone to win 5-6, lose 4-6 all season if they don’t make some moves.

Skokie Dog

July 18th, 2012
11:30 am

Fredi: “Let’s all tip our caps to the Giants tonight. They hit everything those first four innings, and JJ was okay out there. He threw some pitches over the plate, and the Giants hit them. I thought I should pull JJ outta there before they scored ten runs. I don’t want to hurt his confidence.”

crackbaby

July 18th, 2012
11:39 am

I’ll take 7-1 every time.

It would have been worse to lose 1-0 than 9-0. JJ will be fine – his mechanics looked rushed yesterday, kinda like Tommy Hansen’s delivery. That’s not JJ – hopefully Roger will get it worked out.

Let’s get behind Minor tonight. Vogelsong has been terrific this year so the Braves’s bats need to crank it up.

Von Trapp

July 18th, 2012
11:40 am

What kind of pitcher did FG throw out there against SF? Maybe he should change positions :)

CB the DodgerH8ter

July 18th, 2012
11:40 am

Dear Atlanta,

Mix in a salad you fatty mcfatties.

Go Giants!

JK

July 18th, 2012
11:41 am

Speaking on behalf of the family that filed a lawsuit against the Braves due to the injury to their daughter…i hope the family wins and wins big. We need more protection in certain areas of the field. I remember sitting in that same area when I was in my mid 20’s when Jeff Bagwell hit a ball at my head so hard that I barely had time to react and get my head out of the way. I WAS PAYING ATTENTION TO THE GAME. The person behind me got hit and it was bad news.

JK

July 18th, 2012
11:43 am

Just to add to my last comment…I have been sitting in the outfield since 1998.

WRB

July 18th, 2012
11:43 am

Lose one game out of 8 and all of a sudden the Braves are doomed? I don’t know why I read these comments.
Congrats Carl Farvman for being the first idiot/geek/loser.

Jaded

July 18th, 2012
11:43 am

I wasn’t going to say Jurrjens was back after he shut down the Red Sox in Fenway, and I’m not going to say he’s done after getting shelled last night. Most likely, he’s somewhere between those two extremes, though his poor strikeout rate (even compared to past seasons when he wasn’t exactly Curt Schilling) is troubling.

I need to see a couple more starts from Jurrjens to get a read on where he really is.

JK

July 18th, 2012
12:24 pm

@Mikey – Do you really think JJ is one of the chosen ones that can win in the mid 80’s?

man and dog

July 18th, 2012
1:21 pm

JK- No pitcher can win at any speed when you serve up fat ones like JJ did last night.

Mikey

July 18th, 2012
1:32 pm

JJ is 26 years old, with a career 53-36, 3.56 era and 499k’s and only 260 walks. He has not been effective since his injury last year, but I think he will make the adjustments to once again be a winning pitcher. I think Ben Sheets can be a positive mentor and example on what is possible.

NorCalbrave

July 18th, 2012
2:29 pm

That better not trigger another 9 game losing streak!! Cmon! Tonight’s a new night GET IT TOGETHER!

ozzie

July 18th, 2012
2:36 pm

I could see them losing 2-3 to SF and the Nats or winning 5 more in a row from here but its pure butt divining.

Until they get another TOR starter and strengthen the bench and or chase a guy like Justin Upton we may be light on the firepower we need to get to and win in the post season.

I am amazed Chipper is still functioning at this point. If he hits the DL they are pretty screwed.

alanfalcon

July 18th, 2012
2:57 pm

JJ is back to the same old mind set, he can’t handle the pressure when things don’t go his way, most of the problems were his own doing even thoughthere were a few other problems.
One thing for sure is JJ needs a head coach or his career is gone, at least in Atlanta.

bostonbravo

July 18th, 2012
3:24 pm

Steve & Willydoit?,,,,I was impressed & tip my cap to Carl Farvman on his firstness.
He has been more all-star than STRuggla.

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July 18th, 2012
4:22 pm

BRAVES WILL LOSE TONIGHT. WE HAVE THE T-BALL PITCHER PITCHING TONIGHT. I SAY HE GIVES UP 2 HOME RUNS. PUKE MINOR.

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double

July 19th, 2012
12:53 am

Errors & Excuses-Make that two thuds.SF enjoys the batting practice.All the money Liberty got,You would think they could spare enough for a couple good pitchers.

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