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Efrim

July 16th, 2012
3:08 pm

But I’d do Betancourt for Shields.

Not enough for Sheilds. Would have to inlcude Teheran, I would think. I don’t believe they’d have much interest in Mike Minor.

Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)

July 16th, 2012
3:08 pm

The Athletics have released Erick Threets at his request, reports Casey Pratt of CSNBayArea.com (Twitter links). The hard-throwing 30-year-old southpaw pitched to a 1.84 ERA with 6.3 K/9 and 3.9 BB/9 in 44 innings for Oakland’s Triple-A affiliate this season.

We went dumpster diving for Sheets, picking up a hard throwing lefty for the pen on the cheap can only help.

tony austin

July 16th, 2012
3:09 pm

One of the few SPs I’d like to see come to the Braves is Dempster, but the asking price is probably going to be more than FW is willing to give and I don’t blame him. 2 mos of Dempster is not worth giving away high prospects, especially since Dempster alone is not enough IMO.

Brian from SC

July 16th, 2012
3:10 pm

The thing about Dempster is that I think a lot of teams are going to be in on him, which will drive up the price.

Efrim

July 16th, 2012
3:10 pm

Wow – a decent trade proposal from Jim Bowden. For once….

JimBowdenESPNxm JIM BOWDEN
How about Justin Upton to the Nationals for Anthony Rendon, Alex Meyer and Michael Morse? then Nats have RZim, Harper, Upton for nxt 5yrs?

Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)

July 16th, 2012
3:10 pm

Frankie

July 16th, 2012
3:08 pm

scoots, do you believe in the DH?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Heathen questions will get you flogged her in the ol blog :)

Frankie

July 16th, 2012
3:10 pm

“But I’d do Betancourt for Shields.

Not enough for Sheilds. Would have to inlcude Teheran, I would think. I don’t believe they’d have much interest in Mike Minor”

Pretty sure he wasn’t serious on that one.

Shaun

July 16th, 2012
3:11 pm

Not to mention that the fact he was ejected after four pitches was his own damn fault and a result of his apparent immaturity. I have little to no sympathy.

Lew, no one is asking you to have sympathy for Greinke. I’m just pointing out why the Brewers may be pushing him back. I could care less if my favorite team had 25 unsympathetic players, as long as the team wins. I guess that’s the difference between guys like me and guys like you.

One awesome season, four very good ones and two decent ones in 9 years equals “one good year.” If a pitcher must post an adjusted ERA over 100 percent better than league average for a season to be considered a good one, you are going to have problems with most pitchers.

Being 15-20 percent better than league average isn’t any good, according to Lew.

Brian from SC

July 16th, 2012
3:11 pm

Did you know…

The Braves are the only team in baseball with three outfielders with 150 or more total bases?

The Brewers (Braun/Hart), Cardinals (Beltran/Holliday) and Blue Jays (Bautista/Rasmus) are the only ones with 2 such outfielders.

Arkansas Transplant

July 16th, 2012
3:11 pm

I wouldn’t give up Teheran for Shields… not enough return to include him in a trade.

Efrim

July 16th, 2012
3:14 pm

I wouldn’t give up Teheran for Shields… not enough return to include him in a trade.

I would. Shields is perfect for us. Guy is battle tested in the AL East, facing the Yanks, Red Sox, Jays all the time. Shields, Hudson, Hanson, Jurrjens and Sheets the rest of the way would be great. And knowing Shields is in the front of our rotation for the next 2.5 years at a reasonable cost would make me feel pretty comfortable.

raleighbravefan

July 16th, 2012
3:14 pm

Shaun – Let me go over this one more time, very slowly, so you can understand…if you are willing to overcome your arrogance and listen…

Grienke may just need a rest…maybe a little overworked the past few days….OR…

They may be holding him out be cause he is getting ready to be traded…OR…

HE MAY BE HURT. Even if that is a SMALL possibility, it would be prudent of other teams to be CAUTIOUS before making a trade. I didn’t say “don’t make the trade”, I said be careful.

MFin04

July 16th, 2012
3:15 pm

“I think Greinke is the best pitcher among those being mentioned as possible targets. That doesn’t mean I think he’s the best option for the Braves. It’s about weighing the price and value.”

Exactly. Would you rather have Greinke and sign him to a huge deal or be able to still have Minor/Hanson/Jurrjens signed and able to pitch for the Braves. Perhaps, if you don’t like one of those guys…Greinke may keep the Braves from signing Michael Bourn long term.

Efrim

July 16th, 2012
3:16 pm

Around 3.5 million owed for the remaining of 2012, 9 million in 2013, and 12 million in 2014. Yes, I’d give up Teheran for him. He’s the only one I’d do it for.

Arkansas Transplant

July 16th, 2012
3:17 pm

Shields is just an average pitcher, I guess I don’t understand the love for him. Yeah, he had a pretty good season last year but he’s been far from spectular over the others.

Arkansas Transplant

July 16th, 2012
3:18 pm

There’s 2 reasons keeping the Braves from signing Greinke.. McCann and Uggla.

Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)

July 16th, 2012
3:18 pm

Teheran for Shields?

In a heartbeat. Pitcher for pitcher, one proven the other still suspect. Of course I wanted to trade Teheran for Mike Trout just this past off season, and I’m betting the Angels would have politely given me the finger.

DAP

July 16th, 2012
3:19 pm

efrim, i cant remember context or what exactly i may have said, but youre deflecting from the point, which is jurrens has a long track record of being a solid MLB starter. you seem to be ready to non tender him because of about 11 starts. ive never cited a short period of time for justification of tendering jurrjens. not half a season or even a full season. unless is shoulder or knee explodes, he needs to be tendered and/or traded, and i trust the braves front office is smart enough to realize that.

Efrim

July 16th, 2012
3:21 pm

I’d do Delgado, Bethancourt, Ahmed + whatever for Shields too. Not sure they’d be willing to make the trade without Teheran involved though. I wouldn’t include both Delgado and Teheran in one trade.

Brian from SC

July 16th, 2012
3:22 pm

Here’s an exclusive club: The twice-as-many-strikeouts-as-baserunners-allowed club.

Prior to this season, only two pitchers in the history of baseball have pitched at least 35 innings, and struck out twice as many batters as they allowed to reach base.

Billy Wagner, 1999 – 124 K, 35 H, 23 BB, 74.2 IP
Eric Gagne, 2003 – 137 K, 37 H, 20 BB, 82.1 IP

This year, Aroldis Chapman and Craig Kimbrel are BOTH maintaining this pace.

Chapman – 79 K, 18 H, 13 BB, 42.1 IP
Kimbrel – 62 K, 14 H, 10 BB, 35 IP

If he maintains it and Chapman stays where he is, Kimbrel’s would be the greatest K:(H+BB) ratio in the history of the sport for over 35 IP:

Kimbrel – 2.58
Chapman – 2.55
Gagne – 2.40
Wagner – 2.13

Efrim

July 16th, 2012
3:23 pm

he needs to be tendered and/or traded, and i trust the braves front office is smart enough to realize that.

They non-tendered Kelly Johnson because everyone knew it was coming. Obviously that was a bad year for Kelly, and we still need to see 3 months of starts for Jair. I just get these sense from you that even if he faceplants and performs poorly, you’d still tender him a contract. I’m sorry, but that;s just not how this works.

Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)

July 16th, 2012
3:23 pm

I’m gonna be an Indian giver and recant my Shields for Teheran statement.

Shields has posted a season ERA of 4.44 and his last ten starts: 5.06

I’m gonna politely back up and go sit in the corner now…….

ncbravesfan90

July 16th, 2012
3:24 pm

The Rays would not do a Teheran for Shields straight up deal. No way. A year ago, maybe, but now with the regression of Teheran, not a chance.

Brian from SC

July 16th, 2012
3:25 pm

By the way, the greatest strikeout:baserunners ratio for a season by a starting pitcher was Pedro Martinez’s 2000: 284 K, 128 H, 32 BB in 217 innings (1.775 ratio). And in the height of the steroid era, pitching in the AL East.

Arkansas Transplant

July 16th, 2012
3:25 pm

Why so much love for Shields? There’s just no way I give up that much for a pitcher of his caliber.

MFin04

July 16th, 2012
3:26 pm

“I’m gonna politely back up and go sit in the corner now…”

This room probably doesn’t have enough corners for you to be in timeout in one of them. Plenty of other people killing each other on here today. Leave the corners open for them. ;)

monty

July 16th, 2012
3:26 pm

Tommy Hanson is a one trick pony. A very good one trick pony mind you. His fastball is just for show and his bread and butter is his curve. I just worry about a pitcher flipping 40 -50 of those suckers a game and the toll that many a game must take on an arm. I’ve heard he’s working on a change but it seems like just another show me pitch. 3rd time through the order I think hitters are pretty comfortable with him. Back door curve balls and they’re sittin on them. He only uses the outer half of the plate,that works against him. But his curve is excellent till about the 6th, just gets harder and harder to keep flippin crisp ones up there after you’ve tossed 40 or so already.

Efrim

July 16th, 2012
3:26 pm

Shields has posted a season ERA of 4.44 and his last ten starts: 5.06

Awesome. Maybe they’ll actually do it without wanting both of Teheran and Bethancourt… ;)

Brian from SC

July 16th, 2012
3:28 pm

By the way, the greatest strikeout:baserunners ratio for a season by a starting pitcher was Pedro Martinez’s 2000: 284 K, 128 H, 32 BB in 217 innings (1.775 ratio). And in the height of the steroid era, pitching in the AL East.

And the second highest ratio for a season was Pedro’s 1999 season.

raleighbravefan

July 16th, 2012
3:28 pm

Brian – AND Gagne was juicing.

Frankie

July 16th, 2012
3:29 pm

“The thing about Dempster is that I think a lot of teams are going to be in on him, which will drive up the price.”

Thing is he has a no trade clause so he will have plenty of input. Hasn’t ever been out of NL so will see if that plays in decision. Wondering why he would go to LA? No offense, just doesn’t strike me as a team that will win it all. Cards need pitching also and that’s a possibility. Braves would be a good fit. Somebody tell D Lee to call him and hype up the city.

Brian from SC

July 16th, 2012
3:30 pm

Right you are, raleigh.

Brian from SC

July 16th, 2012
3:31 pm

What I’m trying to say is…we could very well be witnessing the most impressive season performance in baseball history by a relief pitcher. Kimbrel has been as unhittable as any relief pitcher has ever been. Ever.

Frankie

July 16th, 2012
3:31 pm

Shields is a workhorse though. Guy almost threw 250 innings last year.

MFin04

July 16th, 2012
3:31 pm

“And in the height of the steroid era, pitching in the AL East.”

Was that division even good in 2000? The Rays and Orioles were terrible, and the Blue Jays were about average?

Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)

July 16th, 2012
3:32 pm

Shields has posted a season ERA of 4.44 and his last ten starts: 5.06……

His last five start: 6.54 ERA and a team record of 11-8 when he toes the rubber. We are trying to win right now.

DAP

July 16th, 2012
3:33 pm

efrim I just get these sense from you that even if he faceplants and performs poorly, you’d still tender him a contract

no, if he pitched for the rest of this seaosn like he did his first 4 starts id cut him loose, because he looked completely lost. or if he is hurt, i wouldnt risk it with him.

but, my enthusiasm gauge with him didnt reset at zero, or go to a negative when he went down earlier this season. it took a hit, yes, but like ive said many times, this is not a guy with no track record. we know he know in his head how to pitch. he was lacking physically. if he gets it together physically, i think he is a good pitcher still, even if he isnt as good as he used to be.

if he is physically right, i dont see him blowing up, and if he blows up i wouldnt chance it.

but if he can manage a 3.50ish ERA from the red sox series to the end of the season, and doesnt look like a complete mess on the mound, i think he is worth the arbitration raise, and id still try to trade him. i just dont want to end up with nothing for a solid veteran starter just because he looked lost for a handful of starts.

Arkansas Transplant

July 16th, 2012
3:33 pm

Work horse or not… he’s not worth that return.

Arkansas Transplant

July 16th, 2012
3:34 pm

I mean if we’re looking past Greinke, then next choice would probably be Garza.. maybe.

Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)

July 16th, 2012
3:34 pm

Shields is a workhorse though. Guy almost threw 250 innings last year.

>>>>>

Maybe but he’s gimpy right at the moment. We had better leave Shields in his stall for the time being.

Frankie

July 16th, 2012
3:35 pm

I would take Dempster, Liriano, Garza, Shields or Greinke. Everyone immediately improves your team.

Carpe diem

Arkansas Transplant

July 16th, 2012
3:35 pm

I would put Volquez as one of my top 5 targets if not his horrible walk ratio.

CrαZy

July 16th, 2012
3:36 pm

Sheilds would get hammered on the blog for his up and down play. Looked like he was about to breakout as one of the better pichers in the league after last year then back to his 2010 form this year.

CrαZy

July 16th, 2012
3:38 pm

Any other once injured pitchers looking for work??

Arkansas Transplant

July 16th, 2012
3:39 pm

If we were to go the Liriano route, I hope we receive Willingham in the return package as well. That would be a decent trade route if we shored up 2 positions in one trade, however I’m not sure we’d get much more production out Liriano than we would from just using Minor.

DAP

July 16th, 2012
3:44 pm

worst thing about shields is that weird thing he does in the stretch. he looks like a nice stable veteran starter, and we could use that. his numbers would be better in the NL.

CrαZy

July 16th, 2012
3:44 pm

Every time I hear someone say Delgado, Minor or Teheran aren’t worth holding on to it makes me think…
Sure would be nice to have Matt Harrison right now!!

Arkansas Transplant

July 16th, 2012
3:45 pm

his numbers would be better in the NL.

That’s not a given.

Murph

July 16th, 2012
3:48 pm

Harrison pitched pretty well this weekend… I still think he’s going to be the one guy from the Tex deal that really goes on to some big big things.

CrαZy

July 16th, 2012
3:49 pm

his numbers would be better in the NL.

Because switching leagues is always so seamless?

MFin04

July 16th, 2012
3:50 pm

“Every time I hear someone say Delgado, Minor or Teheran aren’t worth holding on to it makes me think…Sure would be nice to have Matt Harrison right now!!”

Career 4.12 ERA, sounds like all our other rookies with terrible ERAs.

NickB

July 16th, 2012
3:50 pm

Gotta remember that Shields facing a pitcher instead of a DH and not facing the monster lineups of the AL east would lower his numbers a fair bit too.

I’d do Teheran and Spruill for Shields, in a heartbeat

NickB

July 16th, 2012
3:52 pm

and forget Shields’ ERA his fielding independent pitching has not exceeded 4 in his career, you get him on a better defensive team (like the Braves) and he’d probably be a top 5 pitcher in the NL

CrαZy

July 16th, 2012
3:53 pm

Career 4.12 ERA, sounds like all our other rookies with terrible ERAs.

12-4 2.87 sounds like…. something we’d LOVE to have right now!!

Murph

July 16th, 2012
3:53 pm

Career 4.12 ERA, sounds like all our other rookies with terrible ERAs.

Irrelevant.

2010: 4.71
2011: 3.39
2012: 2.87

But yeah, every time I look at his career ERA I laugh and think about how the Braves really pulled one over on those stupid Rangers.

(Again, the roll-eyes smiley goes here)

Bay Area Steve

July 16th, 2012
3:54 pm

“You deride “mostly” as hyperbole and steadfastly refuse to credit “any” as possibility.”

What a beautiful point, scoots. And, per usual, Shaun evades.

Brian from SC, I liked your typical-Shaun-post even better. I distinctly remember a newer stat-leaning guy here defending Shaun. Many said to wait and see. Was that you?

brian

July 16th, 2012
3:55 pm

but if we trade Bethancourt and Gattis is injured, who can we torture McFann with in that we need to replace McCann with _______? :)

Frankie

July 16th, 2012
3:55 pm

Wren is going to make it happen again. Expecting him to land a big piece.

ACE

July 16th, 2012
3:55 pm

Key Largo, I take that bet that Prado will not play SS again this season. Of course you should be still paying up from saying he would never play SS.

CrαZy

July 16th, 2012
3:55 pm

I’m fine trading one of our young arms for a player under control for a few more years… Just not for a player who becomes a FA after next year.

MFin04

July 16th, 2012
3:55 pm

Murph – Not hard to do… : roll : but no spaces :)

DAP

July 16th, 2012
3:56 pm

AT That’s not a given.

no, but it usually is the case.

Efrim

July 16th, 2012
3:58 pm

Harrison is a nice pitcher. But not someone I miss terribly. It was a good trade for both sides. We got what we wanted out of Tex and Texas sure as hell got what they wanted out of us. The screw up was Wren believing Casey Kotchman was better than 2 draft picks.

Frankie

July 16th, 2012
3:59 pm

“Career 4.12 ERA, sounds like all our other rookies with terrible ERAs.

Irrelevant.”

Exactly, thank you. Name brought up, RUN to baseball reference.com and get career numbers. Doesn’t always mean will drop off to “career numbers”.

MFin04

July 16th, 2012
4:00 pm

“Casey Kotchman was better than 2 draft picks.”

Well he probably was better than two ATLANTA BRAVE draft picks. ;)

CrαZy

July 16th, 2012
4:00 pm

We got what we wanted out of Tex

Tex did his part, but we did not get what we wanted from that deal!!

cabravesfan

July 16th, 2012
4:02 pm

MLB Sports Report ‏@MLBSportsReport
#Braves to sign OF Michael Bourn to a long-term contract within the next week. Bourn would have been a free agent this offseason.

have at it, folks…

MFin04

July 16th, 2012
4:02 pm

Well the Tex thing will happen over and over again, if you trade for a guy that is unsignable. Cough, Greinke, cough Michael Bourn, etc.

Frankie

July 16th, 2012
4:03 pm

Tex did his part in second half of 07. First part of next season wasn’t nearly as good. Was the intent just to have for a year and not 1 1/2 yrs? Aw, f-it, let’s worry about the next 3 months.

Efrim

July 16th, 2012
4:04 pm

jaysonst Jayson Stark
Other teams say #Braves only looking for a “top-of-the-rotation guy.” So be dubious of rumors linking them with Liriano, Vargas, etc

Efrim

July 16th, 2012
4:04 pm

have at it, folks…

Bogus twitter name….

Arkansas Transplant

July 16th, 2012
4:04 pm

How about something like this if we’re set to trade Teheran…

Teheran, Spruill, Leonard and Ahmed for Joe Johnson, Boifacio and Choate?

NickB

July 16th, 2012
4:04 pm

cabravesfan

do you have a website link to that source?

Murph

July 16th, 2012
4:06 pm

MLB Sports Report ‏@MLBSportsReport
#Braves to sign OF Michael Bourn to a long-term contract within the next week. Bourn would have been a free agent this offseason.

I don’t buy it. I can’t see Boras allowing this to happen, unless Bourn went to him and said “Forget all the millions, I want to stay in ATL!”

I guess he could say that… he does seem to like it and the city and everything, but still… that’s a lot of dough to leave on the table.

Bay Area Steve

July 16th, 2012
4:06 pm

McFann,

Thanks for the link re: framing. Thole was just a textbook example of a guy thinking he’s helping, when he’s actually hurting his pitcher. MLB umpires see a glove move, they’re gonna think ball. You hold the glove there, even if it’s mostly out of the zone, you have a much better chance of getting a call. It’s why Mac is one of the best at it. And, impressively, probably THE best at the low strike. How a thick 6′5″ gets under a pitch 18″ off the ground is one of the reasons to watch ‘ball. Glove doesn’t move down an inch.

Two other asides: How great is it that Thole’s partially causing his pitcher’s frustration? And, the issue of framing (or rather, receiving) is the reason I don’t want to see a computer call balls and strikes. I can’t believe how bad umpires are at their job, but if you let a computer do it, one of the biggest facets of being a catcher goes away. I think that changes the game too much. But, man, are they bad…

NickB

July 16th, 2012
4:06 pm

Looking at the Rays fan sites it would appear they need catching and 1B, so a package around Bethancourt and Terdo and an add on might get it done for Shields

and being that I’m skeptical of Bethancourt ever being able to hit, i would do that deal quick

cabravesfan

July 16th, 2012
4:07 pm

Efrim-

Doesn’t look like it. Followed by Buster Olney…

website:

http://mlbsportsreport.mlblogs.com/

(Doesn’t mean it’s 100% accurate, but it appears to have legitimacy. Also doesn’t mean that I buy it, but figured I post and let the fur fly, as the saying goes :) )

cabravesfan

July 16th, 2012
4:08 pm

The site does not have it up, but it’s a blog site and that was obviously just a one liner…

keylargo

July 16th, 2012
4:08 pm

imBowdenESPNxm JIM BOWDEN
How about Justin Upton to the Nationals for Anthony Rendon, Alex Meyer and Michael Morse? then Nats have RZim, Harper, Upton for nxt 5yrs?

What’s that other guys name they signed? Oh, yeah, Jason Werth. He’ll be around for 5 more years too.

Rabid Rascal

July 16th, 2012
4:09 pm

Been a while since I have viewed posts. Miss being able to. I am able to follow the Braves while taking care of my father who has terminal cancer. Good to see some to the regulars still here.
I think the Braves are going to have a new starter, it will be interesting to see who it is and who is given up.
Take care and hopefully I will be back on her sooner than later.

Hugo Z Hackenbush

July 16th, 2012
4:11 pm

His tweet about Lillibridge a half-hour ago was accurate…

UNCBrave

July 16th, 2012
4:11 pm

ONLY Greinke and Hammels fall under this category and we arent getting Hamels

jaysonst Jayson Stark
Other teams say #Braves only looking for a “top-of-the-rotation guy.” So be dubious of rumors linking them with Liriano, Vargas, etc

DAP

July 16th, 2012
4:12 pm

i think it might be harder than some people think to get a reliable automation system for balls and strikes. people must think fox trax is better than it probably really is.

Bama Brave

July 16th, 2012
4:13 pm

Some How We Need to Get Juston Upton on the Braves!

Bay Area Steve

July 16th, 2012
4:15 pm

Man, I really appreciate cab and Ef and VJ and VABraves, and others, for the twitter/chat stuff they paste here.

But never more than today… Bourn? Seriously? Who’d a thunk THAT? I’m guessing 5 year, $70 million extension. Please let it be true! And, we didn’t spend too much…

phil

July 16th, 2012
4:15 pm

My best, Rabid….I’m sorry.

I’ve only been regular for 16 months and don’t recall seeing you, so hello it is.

NickB

July 16th, 2012
4:16 pm

DAP

I personally hate the idea of a strikezone robot calling balls and strikes, what are they gonna do have a light behind the catcher that flashes red for ball and green for strike and goes “DING!”

that sounds awful

Brian from SC

July 16th, 2012
4:16 pm

I would be shocked if the Braves extended Michael Bourn. I mean, that would be some good news, depending on the size of that contract, but that seems to go way against the Boras MO.

phil

July 16th, 2012
4:16 pm

Once we recall Delgado, we’ll have our top of the rotation guy…

;-)

UNCBrave

July 16th, 2012
4:16 pm

MLB Sports Report‏@MLBSportsReport

Bourn says, “I just want to focus on this season. I like where I am right now and I’m on a winning team.”

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Sopheee

July 16th, 2012
4:16 pm

MLB Sports Report ‏@MLBSportsReport
#Braves to sign OF Michael Bourn to a long-term contract within the next week. Bourn would have been a free agent this offseason.

Whaaaat? Believe it when I see it but please be true.

MFin04

July 16th, 2012
4:17 pm

“Please let it be true! And, we didn’t spend too much…”

The Braves should never be accused of spending too much! ;) That is the least of my worries. Would love to see Bourn back.

ChattTownBrian

July 16th, 2012
4:17 pm

Hudson’s ankle thing has them worried I’m pretty sure. For sure they get a top rotation arm. Hanson is still too young and learning to take that label and I’m convinced he’ll never be an ace.

Bay Area Steve

July 16th, 2012
4:17 pm

DAP,

The system in tennis is impressive. I have to think the same technology could be applied. No?

NickB

July 16th, 2012
4:17 pm

I’m interested in this Bourn rumor….. yet it hasn’t shown up on any of the usual suspect rumor sites yet

all signs point to it being malarky, and it may be that the Braves are about to OFFER Bourn an extension and it was misconstrued that he will accept it.

But ,hell, who knows, stranger things have happened!!!

ncscoots

July 16th, 2012
4:18 pm

figured I post and let the fur fly, as the saying goes

Trouble-maker.

phil

July 16th, 2012
4:18 pm

On this Bourn thing….

It’s possible that all parties involved are realistic enough to see this season for him for what it is, that being a career year not likely to be repeated?

I know. It’s Boras. But that reality, combined with the possibility he really wants to stay in Atlanta, and there you have it.

CB

July 16th, 2012
4:19 pm

Rabid Rascal,best wishes and prayers.

ncscoots

July 16th, 2012
4:19 pm

And Frankie, no, I’m no fan of the DH. Even though I was accused of it the other day, by a certain poster who shall remain unnamed. :-)

cabravesfan

July 16th, 2012
4:20 pm

NickB-

I’m pretty confident the site is legit, and therefore, at the very least, the rumor is legit. In other words, not something that some random person made up and tried to pass off…

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