5:16 pm July 14, 2012, by Chris Vivlamore
July 14th, 20128:37 pm
I can’t believe a minor league trade got some of you people so upset. I’ll take a solid defensive SS over Rev until Simmons is back. I think having a talented defensive guy is just fine. He may not blow us away with his bat but if he can make some plays on defense thats alright. Not looking for a silver slugger, just a guy who won’t make us lose games.
July 14th, 20128:38 pm
July 14th, 2012
This is a typical move.Guy is batting .237 !!!!!!!
That is a big upgrade over Hack Wilson(who is a good backup SS BTW)
Alaska Braves Fan
July 14th, 20128:40 pm
Look for Simmons to be back during the second week of September at the earliest. I’m not an expert, but I pretend to be one when I blog about baseball.
This is a nothing trade. Redmond was never going to make it to the big leagues with the pitching depth the Braves have, and Janish is a poor hitter with good defense. The only problem here is that he is not as good offensively or defensively as Simmons, so the Braves in my opinion take a huge step backwards with the injury to Simmons and not getting a better option at SS than Janish.
Oh well, when do the Braves ever get things like this right? He is a stopgap while Simmons heals, but the Braves as a whole take a huge hit with this scenario. The only thing that sucks is that we will more than likely be in this situation for the rest of the season as I don’t think Simmons will be the same once he comes back because he will have to build the strength back in his throwing hand, thus will not be throwing as well, or hitting as well. Hopefully they can stay above water in the final few months here.
say what you will about wren, but ownership is the real problem. Since wren became gm, only the rays have more wins with less money…so he’s a great gm for Liberty, not so much for fans who still remember the 90s
any chance mark cuban is still shopping around? But then again, he’s left the mavs out to dry the last 2 off seasons, maybe he’s outta money. Its tough being a Braves/Cowboys fan post-Maddux/post Aikman
July 14th, 20128:41 pm
Good move. With Wilson most likey going on the DL they had to make a move. Cincy could have held the braves up for more. There aren’t many even no bat okay defensive shortstops in the high minors that teams are looking to move.
Prado is a gritty player but he isn’t a shortstop. That flip he made yesterday showed his limitations at the position. Any major league shortstop gets to that ball easily while. He should get credit for playing out of position but he doesn’t have the range to play short so they had to make this move.
July 14th, 20128:43 pm
I’m so upset! Everyone is at fault and no one can do anything right. Why are they concerned about money and why can’t they get other teams just to give us what they want. All they have to do is wish real hard and spin around three times.
July 14th, 20128:50 pm
you are the best ABF
July 14th, 20128:55 pm
Thanks kral. Truly, I need to shut up now. I just get a little upset with some of the criticisms that aren’t really justified.
So, they’ve optioned Delgado. Interesting, but not unexpected. Hopefully, Sheets will perform well.
July 14th, 20128:56 pm
you have to be wearing ruby slippers ABF…but make sure you take them off before you walk out into the public
July 14th, 20128:58 pm
Where are the rest of the promises that DODO head made . Get off your a… and do your job. Now!!
July 14th, 20129:10 pm
So many idiots on this blog as usual. This is a great move — we got ourselves a slick-fielding fill-in at essentially no cost! Redmond was never going to crack our rotation and Janish is more than capable of being the defensive wizard we need at SS.
July 14th, 20129:11 pm
Goodnight…Thankfully at least tonight the bloggers will run the team tomorrow …
July 14th, 20129:13 pm
Also, given how well Simmons has played, what did you geniuses expect — that we would trade for some great SS and then release him after Simmons comes back? Or demote Simmons? Get a clue.
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July 14th, 20129:15 pm
Mike Y, you’re an idiot, who cares about your report card. Are you a general manager on anyone’s payroll? Didn’t think so.
Luvthosedawgs68, you’re right on. This is a short term solution. Who does Mike Y think we’ll get for a career minor leaguer who wouldn’t even have been in the Braves organization after this year. What a prick.
July 14th, 20129:20 pm
I love this move. It is more than a temp fix because when Simmons comes back, we can see about getting rid of Wilson and his contract asap. and free up more money for a possible starter or NEXT season. GREAT move…
@Marty Thiis is a good trade.Jannish is a good SS. The only problem is DODO head did not finish his job.
July 14th, 20129:23 pm
so is janish going to be the backup and Prado the shortstop for now?
Forgot thanks Braves..2 nights…2 crazy games ..loved it
July 14th, 20129:24 pm
Mike Y, how were you able to grade the Janish move but not that Sheets deal? Neither of them have played a game for the Braves yet.
PS you should start grading our posts.
July 14th, 20129:26 pm
Let me assure each of you that if the Braves don’t do more to increase their bench they will be out of the playoffs before it begins. They must also must improve the starting pitching, especially the #1 spot. This move does nothing to help once Simmons comes back. We still have a weak bench.
July 14th, 20129:32 pm
One last thought: We can have it all, and it will cost us nothing!!
The Cap Tipper
July 14th, 20129:44 pm
So Wren wastes a good young arm, that we actually may need for pitching depth…who has been solid at AAA, for a .220-.230, no power shortstop, with good defense. Hello? We already have one on the team called Jack Wilson. Janish is Wilson’s exact doppleganger in MLB. I would have rather gone with Prado at SS until Wilson is back in a few days, and then just ride him out for 5 weeks until Simmons is ready. In my opinion we wasted Redmond- a good young arm- for nothing. I am stoked at the 6 game win streak…it seems we are finally getting some hits with RISP…I know!! I am as shocked as everyone at the Braves actually getting some clutch hits for once…
July 14th, 20129:49 pm
I cannot help myself. In a whisper: I am not shocked. This is a talented team that is somewhat inconsistent because of its dependence upon young players. Duh!
July 14th, 201210:02 pm
This team is playing really well right now. But I will bet that DODO head or Egg head will screw it up when we sent Constanza to make room for the Boss. Well I am going to do for a little bit what DODO head has been doing all year. Its called SLEEP. Good nite all.
July 14th, 201210:04 pm
Hanson’s numbers are not as bad for this game as they look as Hinske butchered 3 outs into singles because he cannot run a bit in the outfield. It was difficult to watch as he has been a favorite of mine in the past, but this year he has put on a noticable amount of weight that kills him in the outfield. I was sitting on the 3rd base side and it was plan to see the only way he can make a catch is if the ball is hit right at him. Much more important to get his fat I@* back on the bench, Prado in Left and someone with a decent glove at Short.
least of the east
July 14th, 201210:05 pm
a minor deal so Wren can’t be ripped off too badly
after Reds got Hoover for Francisco, they came back for more.
I agree that Redmond should have been given a chance.
PS Braves were $23,800 under the 10 round draft allotment. god forbid if they went over by a few $ to sign a decent HS prospect from round31-40 and had to pay a small tax. anything to save a few $.
that’s why keeping Bourn is pointless. he’s as good as gone. no chance he stays here once a free agent.
July 14th, 201210:33 pm
whomever they wind up with,i hope he or she knows how to BUNT.
MD Braves fan
July 14th, 201210:57 pm
That’s it !!? That’s the move?! Bringin in Jack Wilsons clone. Ufb
July 14th, 201211:24 pm
Frank Wren for President-Fredi Gonzalez for V P
July 15th, 201212:05 am
Not a bad move, but definitely one that doesn’t show on anybody’s radar.
July 15th, 201212:09 am
You folks talk like trading is like trading baseball cards. Did you folks not read where they were looking for a stop gap.I am amazed you people did not want Jeter.Do the research,Janish will save more runs. A better hitter than Wilson and and a better fielder. Next time you go buy groceries and you would like to buy that steak but you only have the funds for Hamburger Helper, then maybe , just maybe you will understand a Braves GM(doesn’t matter who it is) can only do so much with owners like Liberty Media.
July 15th, 20123:01 am
Janish adds some depth to a position the Braves are thin at. He can be a defensive replacement late in games, and get a few starts. Jose Reyes aint walking through that door.
July 15th, 20124:32 am
These blogs have become so full with people relentlessly hating on every move that the Braves make, and on everything that Fredi Gonzalez and Frank Wren do or don’t do.
People who have put no thought into their comments at all post knee jerk reactions about this trade, which in reality is a very solid move. It’s like they just focus on a number- Janish’s batting average, of all things, and say “237!? This guy sucks!!” Janish is a solid defender and was most likely the best shortstop that was available for a song and dance- and available TODAY. Which is when the Braves needed to find a shortstop.
Redmond had very little chance of helping at the major league level this season, after which he becomes a free agent, so it’s really hard to understand anyone complaining about losing him. It opens a spot at AAA for a better, younger prospect. It’s a win all the way around
July 15th, 20124:50 am
Dollar for dollar, Frank Wren has outperformed every other GM in the National League. He has done a superb job with the modest resources he’s been given over the past few years and in case all of his critics haven’t noticed, we’re sitting three games out of first place behind a very young, very iinexperienced Nationals club that has suddenly found themselves in the spotlight. It will be interesting to see how the Nats respond to the pressures of the pennant race in the second half and how they deal with the questions surrounding their use of their ace as his innings count creeps toward their presumed limit of 160. Regardless of how the Nats perform, the Braves find themselves in a great position, right on their heels. It’s hard to argue that the Braves aren’t one of the most balanced clubs in the league,and with a few upgrades to the rotation and possibly the bench or bullpen, they could easily become the team to beat in the National League.
July 15th, 20124:54 am
Wren and his team deserve alot more credit for their successes and more respect from the fans. He took the reigns of this team when the farm system was wrung dry by a misguided attempt of his predecessor to take one last shot at the postseason, trading away 4 very talented prospects at once. Through trades and signings, he’s built the club back into a perennial contender His deals don’t always work out, but with the budget restrictions the team operates under, they have to be creative. Which is why I, for one, am truly excited to see what tricks the front office team has up their sleeves as we approach the trade deadline, and even more so in the offseason, when a few heavy contracts come off the books and allow the front office more flexibility in assembling the 2013 Braves.
But I’m sure no matter what deala Wren ends up making, he’ll be blasted and derided and second-guessed and there will be name-calling and general childishness from Braves fans, particularly from posters on this blog.
It’s kind of a bummer.
July 15th, 20127:46 am
wwwwwww nuff said
July 15th, 20127:55 am
My biggest frustration comes from our ownership situation. I grew up during the Ted Turner era which went from the absolutely horrible to the best, so I guess I am a little spoiled. I understand why the braves made this trade, but I stand by the fact that if you are not gonna trade for any better than what you have then don’t make a trade at all. I dont blame Wren, I think he is a good baseball guy and does pretty god with the budget restraints we have. I am just ticked that we have those restraints.
July 15th, 20128:15 am
Frank is a BS artist, if and when he ever completes a trade he says it was the best out there, he never admits that another team took advantage of his in ability (Jaun Franscisco & etc.) !!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 15th, 20128:42 am
The shortstop problem did not originate because Simmons went for that double; it occurred because of that head-first slide. Managers need to fine ALL players who slide that way. Jason Heyward and Martin Prado previously suffered long-term problems after injuring themselves on head-first slides and, years ago, Rafael Furcal dislocated his shoulder and missed half the season for the same reason.
July 15th, 20129:35 am
Janish is not a Jack Wilson clone. Jack Wilson is now a tick above average defensively, but offers nothing at the plate. Janish is a truly elite defender with a +11.3 UZR, and has two useful offensive tools, he can walk and has a .154 iso so he has decent power. Sitting in the 8 hole for the next month he can actually be a useful piece, where as Redmond is a minor league FA after the season and apparently never was going to get a chance in Atlanta.
July 15th, 201210:36 am
wwwwwww nuff’s @SS
July 15th, 201210:59 am
For you football fans on this blog, a s/s with good range and a solid glove wins more games then a Pastornicky who proved he cannot field at this level.
July 15th, 201211:35 am
Frank Wren’s biggest goof of the year: sending Medlen to AAA to stretch out, then putting him back in the bullpen instead of in the rotation.
Cost us 2 wins…
July 15th, 201212:18 pm
Sorry – I don’t see the point in trading for a light hitting shortstop when the Braves have a light hitting shortstop in their system who started the season with the big club. Maybe this new guy is a little better defensively but it’s not like he is that much better. I still think FG is playing favorites and Pastor is not ont one of FG’s favorites – thus he won’t play and will probably be sent back to the minors next week. Bad trade when one considers Redmond could have been packaged with other players to obtain a front-line pitcher or a good bat for the bench.
July 15th, 20129:24 pm
pastor’s bunt attempt on sat. was enough for me-goodbye…
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