Braves face questions at shortstop, New York Mets to open second half

(Staff writer Carroll Rogers is filling in for David O’Brien today.)

So you know it’s not exactly solid footing for a team when they open the second half without knowing (or more like, announcing yet) who will be their shortstop for the next few weeks, or um tonight. Andrelton Simmons’ injury threw the Braves for a loop, and considering he’s in a cast for the next four weeks to let that broken bone in his hand heal, the Braves needed more than a short-term solution.

The Braves are going to miss this guy

The Braves are going to miss this guy

Manager Fredi Gonzalez said yesterday that they were still mulling their options, both in Triple-A (presumably Tyler Pastornicky, and Josh Wilson, who has 356 games of major league experience with seven different teams, most recently the Brewers), but that they’ve also been mulling trade options as well.

Pastornicky played second base last night in Louisville, which would seem to indicate he’s not the one they’re about to call up, if they’re not playing him at shortstop to prep him. Gonzalez has told backup Jack Wilson to be ready, so until further notice – when there’s further notice – that’s where the Braves are.

Wilson has seen really limited action since Simmons got called up on May 30. He made only one start since then – on June 29 against the Nationals – and that was at second base. He also played some second base against Toronto on June 10 replacing Dan Uggla late, but I think his only action at shortstop came on Sunday in Philadelphia when he replaced Simmons in the fifth inning.

That said, Wilson spent the bulk of his 12 seasons at shortstop, playing 1,273 games there. His defense is what made him the shortstop he was in his heyday with the Pirates and it’s why the Braves traded for him at the end of last season. It’s also why they could turn to him now.

Re-Opening with the Mets

As for the bigger picture, the Braves will open the second half the same way they opened the season – against the New York Mets.

Seems like a long time since that season-opening sweep in New York, and the four losses in a row to start the season, doesn’t it? One difference for the Braves now, besides everything (as my best friend says), is they’ve got Tim Hudson available. Hudson, who needed a few extra weeks to recoup from back surgery to start the season, will start tonight against Chris Young, who is filling in for the injured Dillon Gee.

Gee had some numbness in his fingers Tuesday and they discovered he had a blood clot in an artery in his right shoulder. He was scheduled to undergo surgery today and could miss the rest of the season.

Even without Gee, though, there are some intriguing match-ups in this series with Tommy Hanson facing R.A. Dickey on Saturday, whom many felt should start the All-Star game, and Ben Sheets making his return to the majors Sunday against Johan Santana. Santana was originally scheduled to pitch Friday but had his start pushed back because of a sore right ankle.

Speaking of sore and ankle, Hudson has had six days to rest his sore left ankle, the one which he’s been pitching on for the past month or so despite bone spurs. He received another cortisone shot after he came out of his Friday start in Philadelphia, the one where he landed awkwardly twice and nearly came out of the game in the second inning.

Hudson said Sunday morning his ankle was feeling a lot better. But it’s something he’s planning to pitch through for the rest of the season and even with the pain it’s given him, he’s still managed to be really effective – he threw seven shutout innings at Citizens Bank Park the night he had the last shot.

Hudson will be facing Young, as in the 6-foot-10 former Padre and a Princeton guy, who has had all the shoulder problems over the years. He just returned last month from a year away after having similar surgery that Santana did. So far so good for Young this season, who’s allowed no more than three runs in any of his six starts back. He’s 2-2 with a 3.41 ERA in that span and has thrown four straight quality starts entering play tonight.

I’d imagine the Mets come in a little bit hungry to Turner Field because the Braves just leap-frogged them into second place in the NL East right before the break. The Braves and Jair Jurrjens beat the Phillies last Sunday and the Mets got shut out by the Cubs and Ryan Dempster plus four relievers, moving the Braves into second place by one-half game.

Home vs. road record

A three-game sweep in Philadelphia moved the Braves to 26-17 on the road this season, which is the second best road record in the majors behind the Yankees (27-17). At home it’s been a different story though. The Braves are only 20-22 at Turner Field.

The Braves went 5-5 on their last homestand before the break. They’ll face solid pitching for the next three series including at home against the Mets, whose 3.55 starters’ ERA is third-best in the National League, followed by the Giants, whose 3.65 starters’ ERA is fifth-best in the NL, and then they’ll travel to play the Nationals, who are still leading the NL with a 3.25 ERA from their starters.

McCann in one of his recent trots

McCann in one of his recent trots

The Braves still rank only 12th in the National League with a 4.11 ERA from their starters, but they’ve got to feel good about what they’ve gotten from their starters of late. The Braves put up five quality starts the last time through the rotation, going 4-1 with a 2.97 ERA, as esteemed colleague Mark Bradley talked about in his column.

Another guy to watch coming out of the All-Star break is Brian McCann, who homered in each of the four games – all wins – heading into the break, giving him 13 on the season and plenty of reason to believe he’s going to be a different player in the second half, or at least back to his usual self.

McCann has not been shy about telling this to his manager, his teammates, the media that he believes he’ll be a different player in the second half, which I think tells you a little bit about how he feels at the plate and the confidence he has in himself. He has done some hard work in the batting cage, including some soul-searching with his brother Brad. He was looking forward to resting his body for four days and then jumping right back in in the second half.

McCann’s wife is due with their baby boy on July 21st so there might be a game or two in there he’ll miss. But what a fun time for the two of them and the anticipation of their son’s arrival.

Oh and happy early birthday to Tim Hudson, who turns 37 on Saturday.

Draft update

The Braves have signed right-hander Matt Kimbrel, younger brother of closer Craig Kimbrel, their 31st round pick in the June draft, and a guy they’ve drafted each of the past two years. They wanted to follow Kimbrel, 22, for a month and see how he had progressed another year removed from Tommy John surgery after drafting him out of Southern Polytechnic State. He’s a sinkerballer and a starter, not the power pitcher of his closer brother.

I’m not expecting anything else to happen before today’s 5 p.m. deadline. And a big reason for that is the Braves have been busy all along. By inking Kimbrel, they have now signed 30 of their top 31 picks in the draft. The only exception is catcher Levi Borders, son of former Blue Jays catcher Pat Borders, whom the Braves took in the 11th round out of Winter Haven (Fla.) High School.

Lineup

1. Bourn 8

2. Prado 7

3. Heyward 9

4. Jones 5

5. Freeman 3

6. Uggla 4

7. Ross 2

8. Wilson 6

9. Hudson 1

2,158 comments Add your comment

Efrim

July 13th, 2012
1:53 pm

Thanks for the new blog, Carroll!

Gustopher

July 13th, 2012
1:53 pm

Gustopher

July 13th, 2012
1:54 pm

Efrim

July 13th, 2012
1:57 pm

Prospect Hot Sheet:

No. 8 SEAN GILMARTIN, LHP
BRAVES
Team: Double-A Mississippi (Southern)
Age: 22
Why He’s Here: 0-0, 1 GS, 9 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 1 HR, 0 BB, 7 SO
The Scoop: The 28th pick in the 2011 draft, Gilmartin hasn’t exactly dominated the Southern League this season, though he’s demonstrated pitch efficiency and occasional brilliance. Case in point: Last Friday the lefty completed nine innings in which he struck out seven and allowed just four baserunners. Unfortunately, a two-out solo homer by Jackson’s Stefan Romero in the first inning happened to be one of those baserunners, and Gilmartin’s Braves teammates mustered only one run in nine innings, thus he received no decision. He ranks eighth in the SL ERA race (3.42), ranks third in WHIP (1.13) and first with 108 innings.

Not-so-hot Sheet:

Julio Teheran, rhp, Braves: The rotation spot that Sheets assumes in Atlanta ought to go to Teheran, but the 21-year-old has endured a brutal 2012—and it keeps getting rougher and rougher. He gave up seven runs and nine hits in just five innings in a start against Durham this week, raising his Triple-A ERA to 4.92 Teheran’s stuff doesn’t seem to have the same life it had last year, and he’s stopping missing bats. His strikeout rate of 6.4 per nine innings is the worst of his career. Atlanta needs starting pitching, but right now Teheran isn’t ready to help.

Sad Sack

July 13th, 2012
1:59 pm

Time for the second half slide to begin!

Woody Woodward

July 13th, 2012
2:00 pm

Well, you know you’re getting old when your wife looks at you and says that your ass is getting flat. “Didn’t you used to have a little more pop in your okole (Hawaiian for ass).” Sigh.

Disgusted

July 13th, 2012
2:01 pm

That is not so good on Teheran, some of the luster has come off that prospect.

Still a young kid, but he is scarred now.

Some scouts would be put off on his body type too, not a big durable guy. Some skinny lanky pitchers can do it at this level, but you put the rent money on the prototypical body types like Halliday and Strasburg to make it.

Teheran is not untouchable anymore. But don;t give him away for a rental.

Bruce Chen

July 13th, 2012
2:02 pm

“Sheets to Shart on Sunday” ummmm…

Remley

July 13th, 2012
2:02 pm

Thank goodness baseball is back! And DOBS Blog

Remley

July 13th, 2012
2:03 pm

Sorry , Carols back

Trader Jack

July 13th, 2012
2:04 pm

cricket

July 13th, 2012
1:46 pm

there are a couple of pretty important series in the east this weekend.

Statement Series

Nah, we’re beyond that, we are now in the

Monumental Series phase.

Props to Efrim, who I believe first coined that one

VaBravesFan

July 13th, 2012
2:05 pm

Efrim

Would you offer Teheran plus others for Justin Upton during the offseason if he’s not moved during the season? You know prospects well. I just think letting Bourn walk and getting draft picks and then trading prospects for Upton makes alot more sense.

We’d have Upton for 3 years for 38.5 million, ages 25 to 28. Whatcha think

Gustopher

July 13th, 2012
2:08 pm

Great blog Carroll. Nice behind the scenes stuff you have there.

DS1

July 13th, 2012
2:11 pm

If your intention is that you’d want to get Upton after the season is over, why would you wait? Chances are if he is available now, he might not be in the off season.

I don’t think he is a priority for the Braves. Now maybe his brother Bossman Junior might be if Bourn does not return.

VaBravesFan

July 13th, 2012
2:13 pm

No spot for an everyday outfielder right now is why I suggest that.

VaBravesFan

July 13th, 2012
2:15 pm

It makes sense to offer your top prospects for players you will have control of for 2+ years, not trading your top prospects for rental players.

Efrim

July 13th, 2012
2:15 pm

Whatcha think

Yes, I would trade Teheran + others for Upton. But I have a hard time seeing any sort of package that we could put together for him. Our strength is pitching in the minors and so is theres(Bauer, Skaggs, Corbin, Bradley). They also have Kennedy, Cahill and Miley at the major league level. Not seeing a match as I think they’d target a position player prospect as the lead piece.

DS1

July 13th, 2012
2:16 pm

You can never have enough arms……….. or bats.

Morris Code

July 13th, 2012
2:17 pm

Wow it looks like we’re going to do the Prado and Teheran for Upton trade. I think it’s a win for both teams. At least we will still have Francisco to back up Chipper on his days off.

cricket

July 13th, 2012
2:19 pm

Teheran’s stuff doesn’t seem to have the same life it had last year, and he’s stopping missing bats. His strikeout rate of 6.4 per nine innings is the worst of his career.

sounds like Jurrjensitis

MiaBchBravesFan

July 13th, 2012
2:19 pm

PDOG: I would much rather have the benefit of a full season’s evaluation in order to see which youngs arms I am going to trade for that desparately-needed LF power & average bat. Believe me when I tell you that this GM is NOT going to make a prudent trade right now in July. That Teixeira trade is a reminder that if you don’t trade smart, you end up with NOTHING, while the Rangers have been to two consecutive WS and Saltalamacchia has alreay banged out 17 dingers, WHICH would be leading our club right now. The ONLY teams that benefit from a trade in July, if they do their proper homework, are the ones unloading that needed arm or bat for prospects.

I would rather make a smart trade of our lesser young arms – after a full season of evaluation – in the winter, when my team can do their homework, and find that young, under-team-control LF that can rake for average, hit bombs, and drive in runs. You are not going to find that guy now.

And if anyone thinks even for a second that the Braves are just a Hammels or Greinke arm away from the WS this year, you are deeply delusional. This team has MAJOR issues at 2B, C, SS, 3B, & LF, in terms of health, consistency, and competence. We have a 1B and RF who are still learning the ropes. The only two players playing WS caliber ball are the LF/3B and the CF.

This team has a LOT of holes. One arm will not bring this team to the promise of a deep post season run this year. The best you can hope for is that Sheets is a competent 4/5, that Delgado can help Venters in the bullpen this year, and that the Braves can capture one of the two Wild Card slots. From the three hole to the eighth spot, this team will be limping into the barn again come September. This team does not have one single 30/100/.300 MVP bat in their lineup; in the absence of that, this team will struggle once again b/c no one presently here can carry this team.

Thus the need for that young LF MVP bat we’ve needed for the past decade! Let’s hope we can finally get him this upcoming winter, Frank.

Hoosier Aaron

July 13th, 2012
2:19 pm

Pat Borders – 1992 World Series MVP…bad memory of that guy.
But, doesn’t he work in the Braves system?

One-Eyed Mac

July 13th, 2012
2:21 pm

Even if they’re going with Wilson at short, they’ve still got to fill the roster spot with somebody!

rico carty

July 13th, 2012
2:22 pm

Trade for Upton, Scutaro, and Greinke.
Release Wilson–dude has more boots than RBIs.
There you have it.
NL East is ours.

cricket

July 13th, 2012
2:24 pm

this guy can really throw the ball but he’s off the market – Brees signed a five-year, $100 million deal

MiaBchBravesFan

July 13th, 2012
2:24 pm

Disgusted: when Pedro Martinez started with the Expos, he wa snothing more than hair and a glove. At the end of the day, it’s all about physiology and body luck.

jose wales

July 13th, 2012
2:25 pm

Since they haven’t announced a starting SS yet and haven’t made any roster moves tells me they must be working hard on a trade for a SS

Rick

July 13th, 2012
2:26 pm

Morris Code, where are you getting that? No indication I’ve seen that the Braves are actually interested in Upton, just a suggestion from Buster Olney.

Shaun

July 13th, 2012
2:26 pm

Morris Code, why does it look like the Braves are going to do that? Where are you getting that information?

MiaBchBravesFan

July 13th, 2012
2:27 pm

Good for Drew Brees! I am sure that there are a LOT of guaranteed $$$’s in those papers.

Rick

July 13th, 2012
2:27 pm

rico carty, how does Upton make the team better this year if we lose Prado? Prado is having a better season in every aspect except HR.

cricket

July 13th, 2012
2:28 pm

Florida Florida Florida

Nearly one-fourth of black Florida adults, and one-tenth of the state’s total voting-age population, aren’t allowed to vote because of the state’s prohibition on voting by former felons, the nation’s highest rate of disenfranchisement

Frankie

July 13th, 2012
2:28 pm

“sounds like Jurrjensitis”

Flossing and brushing after meals will cure Teheran

Carroll Rogers

July 13th, 2012
2:28 pm

So every year around this time I have to compete with some dude named Jamey when searching my name….just imagine if they actually traded for him. Somebody would have to drop an “r” or an “l” and by gosh it ain’t going to be me.

MiaBchBravesFan

July 13th, 2012
2:28 pm

I say bring up Pastornicky to back up Wilson. For four weeks, a rent a SS is not worth it, unless they can get him for nothing.

MikeY

July 13th, 2012
2:29 pm

So if Wilson gets hurt in the first inning tonight, who plays SS the rest of the game? Chipper? Prado?

Logan

July 13th, 2012
2:29 pm

Rico No drinking before sundown.

nolie

July 13th, 2012
2:29 pm

more of the level of comments that you seriously hope are facetious, for the sake of future generations

jeffrey d

July 13th, 2012
2:29 pm

They won’t let felons vote? It’s not like they’re going to elect some rogue murderer

MikeY

July 13th, 2012
2:31 pm

I’d like to see us trade for a reliver (Beimel or Lyon) and put Medlen in the rotation.

jeffrey d

July 13th, 2012
2:31 pm

Somebody would have to drop an “r” or an “l” and by gosh it ain’t going to be me.

Would that help? People spell your name wrong on here all the time and you still find it :)

Klaus

July 13th, 2012
2:31 pm

Where did you see Upton for Prado & Julio T? I think the Braves like Prado too much to move him. Now if they could move Uggla and put Prado at 2B they would be tickled pink b/c Uggla is not the 13-14mm dollar clean up hitter they thought they were getting.

He is every inch of his .250 LT avg and solo shot fame. Great guy, hard worker but he is not a team carrying player. At 13+mm he needs to be on a mid market team.

Sadly I doubt AZ wants him or if they do it would require cash back.

Now you could trade Uggla to another team for prospects and free up salary to resign Bourn and extend a Greinke should you get him.

OF

Justin Upton
Bourn
Heyward

INF
FF
Prado
Simmons
FA/Trade – 3B
McCann

Not too shabby and lots of youth/speed.

Kentavo

July 13th, 2012
2:32 pm

They’ve got to call up somebody that can play SS – and everybody stop the Prado and Chipper can play SS stuff.

Shaun

July 13th, 2012
2:32 pm

MiaBchBravesFan, it’s probably going to be Josh Wilson backing up Jack Wilson. That’s what Mark Bowman speculated today, and it makes sense. Pastornicky would be better served playing everyday in Triple-A at his age.

Heisenberg

July 13th, 2012
2:32 pm

What is this nonsense about Prado/Upton trade? But just in case Marteeeeeeen, always have your papers handy.

nolie

July 13th, 2012
2:32 pm

sure Fla is full of former felons and other undesireables, its a great place to live in bum centers in the woods. got ‘em all over the place. they can live in them all year round

VP

July 13th, 2012
2:32 pm

@Shaun,

That Prado/Teheran for Upton is just a possible scenario made up by Buster Olney. Nothing more.

brian

July 13th, 2012
2:33 pm

for the Braves to get Justin Upton it would take position players such as Prado, Salcedo and Cunningham or Prado plus 2 other prospects. I do not see the Dbacks listening to the Braves without Prado in the mix

brian

July 13th, 2012
2:34 pm

Braves priority is pitching. A young pitcher with at least another year of control who is a top of the rotation or at least a 2nd starter. Not a long list of those

nolie

July 13th, 2012
2:35 pm

then Buster is a doodoohead

Efrim

July 13th, 2012
2:37 pm

There isn’t a deal that could be made between the D-Backs and Braves that makes any sense. Just not a match. There really aren’t many matches for Upton other than the Texas Rangers and maybe the Angels and Red Sox.

urban redneck

July 13th, 2012
2:37 pm

NOOOOOOOOOOO to the teheran et al/upton trade. teheran will come around….eventually. only untouchables in the minors should be teheran, betancourt, gilmartin and sims. package delgado, minor and a couple of good minor leaguers for one of the stud pitchers-greinke if we can sign him to at least five years. please stop the talk of trading prado. i don’t know why we would trade next year’s 3B. we can pick up a LF in the offseason or maybe one of our minor league kids will be ready. this is not our year. we should get a wild card spot but i doubt we will even have the tools to make is to the LCS.

it would be an early Christmas present if sheets returns to all star form and we don’t have to trade for a SP. then we could pick up a setup man and help off the bench. go bravos.

phil

July 13th, 2012
2:38 pm

Hack Wilson is the SS we’ve been needing for years now. He’ll be awesome and make us forget all about that Simmons fella…

Efrim

July 13th, 2012
2:39 pm

Really wish we took Jackie Bradley Jr. instead of Sean Gilmartin. Bradley looks like a star. Red Sox have some very nice prospects coming up in Bradley, Matt Barnes and Xander Boegarts.

nolie

July 13th, 2012
2:39 pm

we don’t want Justin now anyway. this is his year to take it easy again

Shaun

July 13th, 2012
2:41 pm

VP, I understand Olney speculated an Upton-for-Prado as a possibility, probably just for fun from his perspective. I’m just wondering how it got from that to “it looks like” the Braves are going to do it.

old man

July 13th, 2012
2:42 pm

A trade would be interesting to fill the SS hole. But from what we have on hand why is Drew Sutton not our best option at SS? In 112 innings of MLB play at SS, he’s had 1 error. In 31 games last year with Boston, he hit .315. Didn’t he have a great first half of ST, then he stopped hitting? He’s hitting .270 at Gwinnett right now. I’ve been underwhelmed by Wilson’s D at SS.

old man

July 13th, 2012
2:42 pm

A trade would be interesting to fill the SS hole. But from what we have on hand why is Drew Sutton not our best option at SS? In 112 innings of MLB play at SS, he’s had 1 error. In 31 games last year with Boston, he hit .315. Didn’t he have a great first half of ST, then he stopped hitting? He’s hitting .270 at Gwinnett right now. I’ve been underwhelmed by Wilson’s D at SS.

old man

July 13th, 2012
2:42 pm

A trade would be interesting to fill the SS hole. But from what we have on hand why is Drew Sutton not our best option at SS? In 112 innings of MLB play at SS, he’s had 1 error. In 31 games last year with Boston, he hit .315. Didn’t he have a great first half of ST, then he stopped hitting? He’s hitting .270 at Gwinnett right now. I’ve been underwhelmed by Wilson’s D at SS.

old man

July 13th, 2012
2:42 pm

A trade would be interesting to fill the SS hole. But from what we have on hand why is Drew Sutton not our best option at SS? In 112 innings of MLB play at SS, he’s had 1 error. In 31 games last year with Boston, he hit .315. Didn’t he have a great first half of ST, then he stopped hitting? He’s hitting .270 at Gwinnett right now. I’ve been underwhelmed by Wilson’s D at SS.

old man

July 13th, 2012
2:42 pm

A trade would be interesting to fill the SS hole. But from what we have on hand why is Drew Sutton not our best option at SS? In 112 innings of MLB play at SS, he’s had 1 error. In 31 games last year with Boston, he hit .315. Didn’t he have a great first half of ST, then he stopped hitting? He’s hitting .270 at Gwinnett right now. I’ve been underwhelmed by Wilson’s D at SS.

old man

July 13th, 2012
2:42 pm

A trade would be interesting to fill the SS hole. But from what we have on hand why is Drew Sutton not our best option at SS? In 112 innings of MLB play at SS, he’s had 1 error. In 31 games last year with Boston, he hit .315. Didn’t he have a great first half of ST, then he stopped hitting? He’s hitting .270 at Gwinnett right now. I’ve been underwhelmed by Wilson’s D at SS.

old man

July 13th, 2012
2:42 pm

A trade would be interesting to fill the SS hole. But from what we have on hand why is Drew Sutton not our best option at SS? In 112 innings of MLB play at SS, he’s had 1 error. In 31 games last year with Boston, he hit .315. Didn’t he have a great first half of ST, then he stopped hitting? He’s hitting .270 at Gwinnett right now. I’ve been underwhelmed by Wilson’s D at SS.

Disgusted

July 13th, 2012
2:43 pm

I want no partof any trade that would involve moving Prado, because unless you get a 30 HR 100 plus RBI bat who can play third as good as Marteen, there will be no one else better that is available I don;t think.

I don;t want Mark Reynolds and as I have stated before, I do not want Headley when you have Prado. Martin is a better playerr.

You can come up with a LF in the off season. Not keeping Bourn for all the $$$$$$ comming off the books would be cheap. They might let Micheal walk over $$$$$$$$$$ and get a cheaper player, but it would still be cheap.

jeffrey d

July 13th, 2012
2:43 pm

old man – do you think a trade would be interesting to fill the SS hole?

;)

nolie

July 13th, 2012
2:44 pm

sorry dude, it really wasn’t worth repeating more than once or twice at the most….

phil

July 13th, 2012
2:44 pm

Old man – that trade isn’t so interesting that it needs to be repeated 100 times….lol

Disgusted

July 13th, 2012
2:44 pm

Justin Upton has followed a pattern of good yr, so so yr. Good yrs in 2009 and 11, not as good in 10 and 12.

I am not all that excited about him for what you might have to give up for him.

Heisenberg

July 13th, 2012
2:44 pm

Braves should trade Wilson & Minor to Yanks for Jeter & CC plus cash to cover the difference in salaries. Then the expiting contracts of Hinski, Diaz, & JJJ to Orlando for Dwight Howard.

Disgusted

July 13th, 2012
2:45 pm

Jack Wilson can do it in the field, I don’t really mind having him.

If a deal for Scutaro could be worked out without giving up much that would be cool.

nolie

July 13th, 2012
2:46 pm

and so far this is his worst year….

Hillbilly

July 13th, 2012
2:46 pm

old man,

To answer all seven of your questions, Sutton is with the Pirates organiation now.

jeffrey d

July 13th, 2012
2:46 pm

Then the expiting contracts of Hinski, Diaz, & JJJ to Orlando for Dwight Howard.

I like it!

Memphis

July 13th, 2012
2:46 pm

Drew Sutton plays for the Pirates. The Brave cut him, he went to Tampa, they cut him and now hes with Pittsburgh.

No Flag Since Lemke

July 13th, 2012
2:46 pm

From MLB Trade Rumors:

The Rays announced that they have agreed to sign first round selection Richie Shaffer. Shaffer obtained a bonus of $1.7125MM, Jim Callis of Baseball America tweets.

This is the guy the Braves could have and should have drafted. Third baseman with great offensive and defensive tools..

Shaun

July 13th, 2012
2:47 pm

Drew Sutton is a Pirate.

brian

July 13th, 2012
2:47 pm

Braves will not make a significant trade to fill the SS hole. They will work to add a starting pitcher first and a bullpen piece second.

If CHipper, Martin, and Heyward stay healthy, it is not worth it to add a big bat during the season unless the Braves move Prado in the deal which would then open up a whole at 3B for next season.

The Braves will look to add a LF in the off season

Klaus

July 13th, 2012
2:47 pm

Prado for Upton would work for AZ though they would ask for a starter as well. So from that perspective the Braves are one of the best matches for AZ. A MLB player and some prospects.

If Wren feels 3B needs more pop/RBIs (in 2013) he may be looking at other options already.

You can also involve 1 or 2 additional teams to make it work though that was more a JS tactic.

Efrim

July 13th, 2012
2:47 pm

Then the expiting contracts of Hinski, Diaz, & JJJ to Orlando for Dwight Howard.

Hah! Nice.

phil

July 13th, 2012
2:47 pm

Just about every time I’ve seen Hack start for us, which isn’t often thankfully, he boots a ball…it’s been so bad in fact, i thought it was nolie out there.

Hurry back, AS!

nolie

July 13th, 2012
2:48 pm

Braves sold his contract, didn’t cut him

Frankie

July 13th, 2012
2:48 pm

Why has Drew Sutton been with like 4 organizations in a 3 yr period? Don’t think Drew Sutton is the guy we catch pennant fever from. Braves not making the playoffs won’t be attributed to Simmons being out with injury.

Efrim

July 13th, 2012
2:48 pm

This is the guy the Braves could have and should have drafted. Third baseman with great offensive and defensive tools..

We are way too stocked with position prospects to handle Shaffer. I mean, we have Edward Salcedo, Joey Terdoslavich and Brandon Drury to man 3rd base for years………………….

cough. :)

Shaun

July 13th, 2012
2:49 pm

@JordanSchafer: “Good Joe Pa did as well. Remember Sandusky did the crime. I’m done w this topic bc u people r tryna stone me right now. Have a good day”

Frankie

July 13th, 2012
2:49 pm

Enough of the talk about Dempster, Greinke and Garza. Just go get El Duque and nothing else to worry about.

brian

July 13th, 2012
2:49 pm

I have no problems with the Braves drafting Sims. Take the best player on your board regardless of position. Nice to have a young arm to develop

nolie

July 13th, 2012
2:50 pm

Braves not making the playoffs won’t be attributed to Simmons being out with injury….Frankie

maybe not. but I’m not buying your certainty about it. and Drew would be a lot better than either option we now have

Shaun

July 13th, 2012
2:50 pm

Frankie, not to mention why would the Braves want to trade for Sutton when they sold him to the Pirates in May?

Disgusted

July 13th, 2012
2:51 pm

Really wish we took Jackie Bradley Jr. instead of Sean Gilmartin. Bradley looks like a star. Red Sox have some very nice prospects coming up in Bradley, Matt Barnes and Xander Boegarts.

That would have been good Efrim, but not totally down on Gilmartin yet.

The Red Sox are a team that should be smart and hold on to those kids and move some bad $$$$$$$ if they can. They also have Lavarnway too. They can have him catch and move Saltalamaccia to DH, and not pay Ortiz. Big PR blow but they have to move $$$$$$$$. Middlebrooks is a building block too.

I just don;t know which way I want the Braves to go as far as this yr goes cause in two yrs I see a real potential run here, these kid pitchers could really make at at least as decent MLB SP’s

Overpaying for a rental just does not seem smart.

Heisenberg

July 13th, 2012
2:51 pm

old man, how did you get that to post that many times? Whenever I accidently hit the post button more than once it tells me I have already said that. And it makes me think maybe I want to repeat it. Who made that rule that you cannot keep repeating the same thing over and over. If lying is protected as free speech then repeating something should also be protected as free speech. I suppose then that by the associative principal that repeating a lie would also be protected as free speech.

I am done rambling now.

Efrim

July 13th, 2012
2:52 pm

I have no problems with the Braves drafting Sims. Take the best player on your board regardless of position. Nice to have a young arm to develop

I was fine with Sims, too. Just messing around. ;)

But a bat next year with a focus on the hit tool would be nice. Not the Matt Lipka type.

DS1

July 13th, 2012
2:52 pm

Maybe Drew Sutton has bad breath?

Burrito time………

nolie

July 13th, 2012
2:53 pm

Sims was not the best player on the board, he was a local guy who wouls take less than slot so they could spend more later. Nothing wrong with that at that pick level, but he was not the highest thought of player available

Shaun

July 13th, 2012
2:53 pm

Unless a trade is made, it’s going to be Jack Wilson and Josh Wilson at short.

Efrim

July 13th, 2012
2:54 pm

Sims was not the best player on the board, he was a local guy who wouls take less than slot so they could spend more later. Nothing wrong with that at that pick level, but he was not the highest thought of player available

I think Shaffer was, to be honest.

Frankie

July 13th, 2012
2:55 pm

Simmons did a great job while up here and he is a stud defensively. Reality is that we were 3 games above .500 with him. I will take Jack Wilson and his sorry bat and stick him at shortstop and they will be fine the next month. Uggla and McCann, Uggla, McCann , Uggla, McCann. These guys start playing to their norms the offense will be fine.

Starting pitching is and has always been the biggest concern on the 2012 Atlanta Braves.

Disgusted

July 13th, 2012
2:55 pm

You never have too much pitching look at the injuries the Braves have had with pitchers the last couple yrs, Medlen, Vizcaino, and Beachey. That is to start.

Sims and the other pitchre they drafted next could become good, too early to tell.

And for the thousanth time it would be better to take back picks for Bourn than move him for a bag of dirt.

nolie

July 13th, 2012
2:57 pm

games above 500 with a player is nothing that means much at all. just because that happened b4 does not mean it will play out the same the rest of the way. You should know that there are absolutely no certainties in baseball

NickB

July 13th, 2012
2:57 pm

I was wanting Sutton when he played for the Red Sox, was excited when he came here too, but the decision to put the Rev on the big squad doomed him as it required a glove guy to be the backup rather than a more bat oriented guy like Sutton.

Efrim

July 13th, 2012
2:58 pm

Disgusted, they aren’t moving Bourn. They are playing out the season with him and then making a qualifying offer while seeing if they can get him to agree to a low salaried, long term deal. :)

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