Braves (and a couple other) quotes after NL’s win

**CHIPPER JONES

On his soft groundball single

“It ain’t how hard you hit it, it’s where you hit it. After getting a standing ovation I have to admit I was a little misty. It’s kind of hard to see ’97 coming out of Chris Sales’ hand [while tearing up], but you’re not going to get a base hit if you don’t swing the bat. It was probably a ball, but they were playing that little mini shift on me, and I hit it where they weren’t.”

On the ovation and ‘Crazy Train’ playing on PA when he came to bat

“Ha. I never expect Crazy Train in an opposing ballpark, but nice touch. The guys up there from Kansas City did their homework.”

On last All-Star shutout coming ’96, your first one, at Philly, when Smoltz won

“It was 6-nothing, I think? Well that’s good. We bookended it with shutouts. The guys were ready to play, man.  They came out and jumped on Verlander early. I haven’t seen him that wild in a long time, but we took advantage of some walks. Panda [Sandoval] and Brauny – guys got some big hits.”

On his speech to the team before game

“It was nice. I was honored that Tony asked me to say something, and I just wanted the guys to know that nothing’s a given, you don’t know when your last one’s going to be. Soak up this opportunity. I quoted the late, great Lou Brown in Major League, saying ‘Two’s nice, but three’s a winning streak.’ Tonight we got on a little bit of a roll and we’ve won three in a row. Somebody in this clubhouse is going to be real happy to have home-field advantage come October.”

How much do you think the team’s first inning had to do with your speech

“Nothing. Absolutely nothing. [Laughter.] Those guys were probably listening to me and still trying to focus on Verlander. All-Star games, there are no easy at-bats. You’ve got to go out there and throw up good at-bats against the best in the American League, and they did it against the – if I’m not mistaken he won the Cy Young and MVP last year? So the guy’s pretty good.”

On running hard on his groundball single

“I was trying to run it out all the way. I mean, 40 years old legging out an infield hit in the All-Star game – that’s exactly the way I scripted it.”

On grinning as he rounded first base on his single

“Because I knew that when I turned around I was going to see Jeter and Adam Dunn on the top step, laughing at me busting it down the line trying to beat that out. And true to form, they were giving me guff.”

On whether AL 2B Kinsler might have gone a little harder after ball

“You think he pulled up? [Laughter.] I don’t know. It’s most appreciated. I’m 1-for-1.”

Pretty cool moment for  you, getting a hit in your last All-Star at-bat?

“Really cool. I’ve said all along through the first half, there have been moments and games that couldn’t have been scripted any better. And tonight was just another one of those games from my last year that I’ll look back on very fondly.”

Any one moment stand out during the past few days here?

“Having a conversation with George Brett [by the batting cage]. George was one of my guys growing up. I came up as a shortstop and was a huge Cal Ripken fan, but I had in the back of my mind that third base could be in my future one day, and obviously George Brett and Mike Schmidt were the quintessential MVP candidates, best players in their league when I was growing up. So if you could pattern your game after guys like George Brett, you’re going to be a pretty good player.”

On NL winning three in a row

“We went through a long losing streak there for a while. I think our last one prior to the last few years was ’96 – that was my first All-Star game. We lost a lot in-between then and three years ago. I certainly didn’t want to go out on a losing streak in my last year.”

**DAN UGGLA

On he and Chipper both getting groundball hits barely out of the infield

“He said his went farther though.”

On five runs in first inning

“Verlander’s got electric stuff. We were able to capitalize on a couple of mistakes. It was cool.”

On Chipper’s speech

“He did a great job. His words were awesome. To hear a guy that’s been where he’s been and done what he’s done, to have him speak to you before an All-Star game, I don’t know what else you could ask for.”

On Chipper saying to take advantage of opportunity, you don’t know how many more you’ll get

“Exactly. He definitely brought that into play. Because even if you’re having a great year, it’s not guaranteed that you’re going to be here. You’ve got to take the opportunity when it comes to you and enjoy it.”

More on the speech

“When you’re talking amongst your peers, in a small, tight room, it’s nowhere near as easy as talking in front of a group of people you don’t know. Just because there’s going to be emotion involved because of the situation. You’re talking meaningful words that you want to be heartfelt, not just to fill a time slot. And he did it. He did  it with the best of them. It’s not easy to do. You get kind of choked up in the moment, just because of the situation, the magnitude of it because this is never going to happen again. He did well.”

On Kimbrel getting two strikeouts  in seven pitches

“Wow. Dude, he was jacked up, man. He was jacked up.”

Pretty good night for the Braves All-Stars?

“Yeah, we did OK and held our own, and the team did even better.”

**MICHAEL BOURN

On the night and the win

“We had some fun out there, man. Plus Chipper comes down with a last hit on his last at-bat in an All-Star game.”

On Chipper’s speech, he seem like managerial material?

“It looked like he did the job to me – 8-nothing.”

On NL hitters

“They were swinging tonight, man. That’s impressive, because your adrenaline’s already rushing in an All-Star game, and they were able to calm it down and go out there and provide a spark. Five runs is hard to get anytime in an All-Star game, and they got it in one inning. Then we tacked on some more after that.

“Our pitching – goddawg. What we were throwing out there every inning. Nobody was coming out there throwing below 95 [mph] except for Dickey, and he was throwing a mean knuckleball.”

“It was a fun night. I enjoyed myself. Now go back and chill for a little bit, relax for a couple of days and get ready for Friday.”

**Nationals rookie BRYCE HARPER

On Chipper speaking to team before game

“Chipper was one of the guys that everyone looked up to, especially people that were Braves fans when he was the face of that franchise for the 20 years that he played there. It was so great to see him get that knock, to be able to get a single for his last All-Star game. It’s so much fun to come out here and just enjoy being able to hang out with him and everybody in this clubhouse.”

**NL manager TONY La RUSSA

On Chipper’s speech

“Elite against elite, I believe is the term he used. When I got up, I said, ‘Whatever he said, that’s how I feel.’ I just co-signed it.”

114 comments Add your comment

NickB

July 11th, 2012
1:12 am

Chipper Jones, he’s the man!!

btw DOB, there’s some editing error there, the Chipper stuff is up there twice and it cuts off the bottom of Uggla’s quotes

milosdf

July 11th, 2012
1:15 am

first. again

Billreef

July 11th, 2012
1:26 am

If your entire aspiration in life is to be “1st” on a blog. You really need to go see someone. Especially when you aren’t even 1st, “again”.

count_schemula

July 11th, 2012
1:31 am

Clowned. Again. Is more like it.

Gus2259

July 11th, 2012
1:31 am

All the Braves that were there deserved it and Chipper proved once more the Hall of Famer that he is.

TNScott

July 11th, 2012
1:36 am

Many thanks, DOB, for your professionalism to get this out tonight. Here’s hoping you have time for a good night’s rest before you have to fly home.

cowdogit

July 11th, 2012
1:45 am

Trade Chipper” Bring back Mazzone, Canstanza, and Durango. It’s time to get serious about about winning another division title. This team has been going in the wrong direction for seven years, The stat turds that have a crush on Chipper can always follow him to his next sucker team.

B_F 54

July 11th, 2012
1:47 am

Good stuff DO’B,Maybe the Bravos get up and roll out the season for Chipper

GO BRAVOS

NickB

July 11th, 2012
1:51 am

I think cowdogit is a Poe, he can’t possibly really believe the stuff he says can he?

VP

July 11th, 2012
2:15 am

Good job Chipper. Now let’s go use that homefield advantage.

Gibson

July 11th, 2012
2:28 am

clay

July 11th, 2012
3:28 am

It was really cool how much love FOX showed to chipper. It goes to show you his career has not gone unnoticed by anyone. First ballot HOF’er. I am so glad I got to watch Chipper from start to finish as a Brave. He is that type of player I will be telling my kids about when they get older and respect the game. GO BRAVES. Let’s send Chipper out with a championship.

Mitchell

July 11th, 2012
3:29 am

DAN UGGLA

On he and Chipper both getting groundball hits barely out of the infield

“He said his went farther though.”

That is funny.

DJ

July 11th, 2012
3:36 am

Awesome stuff here. You couldn’t have made this stuff up. Chipper is, as they say, “a class act.”

And, thanks DOB for your work. It’s always appreciated.

jim s

July 11th, 2012
3:48 am

Nice job Chipper. Thanks for the memories. On a side note……. did anyone else feel George Brett’s speech in the locker room was distasteful? It was all about him! Especially the comment about the idiot softball players.(refering to all the legends of the game and new celebrities ). Didn’t like him then and especially now! What a jerk!

Wrecker

July 11th, 2012
6:03 am

Agreed on Brett, Jim. Dude was a great player, but is a complete AH. Elite level athletics requires “athletic arrogance,” but that guy always thought he was royalty on and off the field.

Old Time Fan

July 11th, 2012
7:03 am

Great to see the love Chipper got @ the all-star game. They say familiarity breeds contempt and some local fans are down on him, however how many 40 year olds are able to hit at the level he is doing now? One question, why did Fredi pinch hit Hinske on Sunday with the bases loaded when Chipper was available? This is just another one of the many questionable moves he has made.

Old Time Fan

July 11th, 2012
7:09 am

Reggie Jackson can stuff it. I guess he believes Barry Bonds is legitimately the all time home run leader. I wonder what his stats were against Niekro (I know different leagues and few opportunities) but if Phil had played on a team that scored some runs he would have been closer to 400 wins than 300.

LAC

July 11th, 2012
7:41 am

Hope to see Atlanta here next season and I can don my Atlanta Thrashers jersey !!!!!!!

Kat

July 11th, 2012
8:14 am

Awesome quotes; great game last night.

Al

July 11th, 2012
8:32 am

Great way to end it, Chipper was class all the way, and though I may get some bad rips, I have to admit that LaRussa was CLASS all the way, from including Chipper and Bourne, to even when retired being in St. Louis to greet Chipper on his last visit (remember he lives in CA). To embracing him at the AS Game, before , during and after… I used to hate him, but now I see why he was a great manager, and again he outmanaged tghe Rangers lol. Everyone trying to tell Tony to pick Phillips and Cueto from the Reds, it would have ruined the clubhouse, also trying to tell him to start the knuckleballer! He knew to pitch Cain…Big Props

The Truth....

July 11th, 2012
8:32 am

Good to see all the FORMER BRAVES at the All-Star game. Even all the players we gave up for Tex! That deal was a good one huh? Keep dealing Frank…Congrats to Chipper and Melkey!

ATLBru

July 11th, 2012
8:34 am

Way to go Chip! Nice game, and have to agree with Al on the Cardinals manager! Come back Chip and help us into the postseason!

Bob Horner's Blonde Mullet

July 11th, 2012
9:08 am

Funny about his “speech” – I heard a sound byte this morning on the radio, and it was a 5 second monotone thing – by no means motivating… just funny. But when you read about it, it’s this big, goose-bump producing pregame thing that got the team fired up. Ha ha ha — Chipper is still the man, but I love how the local press has made a big deal about this ’speech’

PS: what’s with Melky Cabrera trying to high five Robinson Cano while he’s in a home run trot? Melky is such a douche… playing over his head. WHO DOES THAT?

Speedy Gonzalez

July 11th, 2012
9:09 am

How many all stars were former Braves? Melky, Furcal, Harrison, Feliz, Andrus, Wainwright,…….way to go John S. most overated GM in the history of baseball, we have traded away a whole all star team!!!!

Hoosier Aaron

July 11th, 2012
9:25 am

If anyone wondered who the best closer in the game is, that was clearly resolved last night.
The kid is a BEAST!
Watching that performance was the highlight of the game for me.

mpimentel

July 11th, 2012
9:29 am

When melky was a brave he wasn’t that barely good…

Orange Brave f/k/a Billy Jack's BBQ

July 11th, 2012
9:29 am

1. Unreal night for Chipper and the Braves. Great to see them perform well, particularly nice to see Uggs get a hit. We must have him back to form if we are going to contend in the 2nd half.

2. LaRussa is class. Hated to go against him, but he darn well knows baseball. Remember watching him manage the minor league team in Knoxville as a kid. Dude has a law degree. Glad to see him embrace all the NL players.

3. Today is the 2nd worst day of the year (no baseball).

4. Great article DOB, I know you were basically posting quotes, but very nice. Thank you.

alex

July 11th, 2012
9:45 am

Nice send off for Chipper, KC did an excellent job..

Ken Stallings

July 11th, 2012
9:55 am

Kimbrel’s last pitch to strikeout his second batter faced was pure nasty! It was a rising fastball — unhittable! The comments on the two announcers, Joe Buck and Tim McCarver, were priceless:

Buck: “How do you catch up to something like that?”

McCarver: “You don’t!”

PMC

July 11th, 2012
10:03 am

Tony Larussa managed to perfection last night.

SimpleDawg

July 11th, 2012
10:13 am

Chipper Jones = Damn Good Brave !

Richie

July 11th, 2012
10:19 am

Melky was also 225lbs, who never met a plate of food he didn’t like, when he played for the Braves either.

IlliniBrave

July 11th, 2012
11:07 am

@Ken: while I appreciate the comments re Kimbrel, please refrain from any further reference to that annoying tool Joe Buck. Kinda like the Carays, where Chip is worse than Skip who was worse than Harry, Joe is a mere shadow of his dad Jack.

IlliniBrave

July 11th, 2012
11:12 am

Re. Milk-dud, we have to remember that the Yankees had given up on him before we gave up on him. And KC wasn’t impressed enough to re-sign him. No shame here on letting this guy go. Not convinced either that he can and will replicate this year’s success.

We're Going Streakin'

July 11th, 2012
11:44 am

@Old Time Fan: I had the same question about why Hinkse was used instead of Chipper to pinch hit and wondered if maybe Fredi was concerned about Chipper’s hit streak. I may have the number wrong, but I think Chipper is sitting on a 14-game hitting streak. I know Uggla had a pinch hit homerun during his streak last year, but I wonder if perhaps Fredi didn’t want Chipper’s hit streak to end on a pinch hit at-bat. Seems like a manager should be more concerned about winning a game than a hitting streak, but with it being Chipper’s final year, maybe he decided to put his trust in Hinske. Just a thought.

reckingball

July 11th, 2012
11:52 am

Melky half-azzed his way through the 2010 season with the Braves.
He killed more rallies in 2010, than AGon did during the 2011 season.
I don’t remember anyone complaining, when the Braves gave Melky his walking papers a week after the 2010 season ended.

milo

July 11th, 2012
12:05 pm

melky and cano are good friends, they talk everyday and melky went for the hand shake. melky was overweight and out of shape and slapped every ball into the ground as a Brave or thought he was still hitting in New York with that right field fence.

mediocrity continues...

July 11th, 2012
12:12 pm

It was bitter sweet watching Ole Hoss last night giving that pregame speech. Almost couldn’t believe what I was seeing. I’m just glad he’s a Brave and his plaque in Cooperstown will have him with a big A on his cap.

On the George Brett topic. Do a youtube search on his name and the other word for poop (starts with an “S”). Hilarious…

Tumbledown

July 11th, 2012
12:26 pm

I know I can be down on the Braves, but they sure have some nice pieces to make a playoff run. The Braves have a great leadoff hitter, some talented young hitters (Heyward, Freeman, and Simmons) who are improving but must stay healthy, veterans like Chipper and McCann who can provide leadership as well as production, a great pro like Prado, and perhaps the best closer in the game in Kimbrell.

Please Wren, take a chance and get a quality starter. This year may be our best shot for awhile. There is no great team in the NL, and key players will be either retired (Chipper) or on another team next year (Bourn). Time to forget about the Texeira trade fiasco and go all in for a quality starter.

Tumbledown

July 11th, 2012
1:20 pm

I know how to kill a blog discussion.

Mark's for the Braves

July 11th, 2012
1:25 pm

Just a great win for the NL with a great speech by Chipper before the game started. Loved that he got a hit in his last All Star AB, too.

Just wish the Braves would be the team to get to use the NL home WS advantage now!

htownbravesfan

July 11th, 2012
1:38 pm

To IlliniBrave,

If you think Skip Caray was a subpar broadcaster, you have lost all credibility on this site. I still hear his voice when I watch a Braves game today. My guess is you didn’t grow up in the eighties and nineties watching this team every night, as so many of us here did. If you did, you wouldn’t have mentioned him in any “worse than” categories.

bobby

July 11th, 2012
1:42 pm

cowdogit meant to have used cowpatty.

Penpal

July 11th, 2012
1:49 pm

Wow, most fun all star game I ever watched, and I watched at least 50 of them. Way to go Braves, You did us proud. Hope the second half proves what a good team you really are. How about a speech in the clubhouse before games Chip. :)

Ken Stallings

July 11th, 2012
1:54 pm

Yeah, I have very high regard and respect for Joe Buck. He’s an excellent broadcaster and has done nothing deserving of such ill will. Skip Caray was outstanding and has earned a Ford Fricke award enshrinement at Cooperstown!

His son, Chip, takes a lot of guff from people, but he’s a good announcer also. I won’t say he’s as good as his father was, but that’s not so much a criticism of Chip as a statement of admiration for Skip — one I suspect even Chip Caray himself would endorse!

Chip Caray himself earned a lot of respect from me that day he decided to leave the control booth and let veteran announcer Pete van Weiren have the microphone all to himself to make the call when the Braves clinched the 1991 NL West pennant. His comment was that there was a man who’s career meant he deserved to make the call more than he (Chip Caray) did. That was class incarnate!

Penpal

July 11th, 2012
1:58 pm

Agree with htownbravesfan, In the eighty’s the Braves were pretty bad. Skip, was the one that had to add some levity to the sad, sorry Braves games. The Professor and Ernie J. did the strait broadcast, and Skip tried to make a boring game, with the Braves loosing most of the time, enjoyable. I loved him.

DetroitBraves

July 11th, 2012
2:04 pm

I liked Harry and Skip about the same, which is high praise for Skip because I enjoyed listening to Harry as much as anyone. I liked Jack much more than Joe, but I do agree with Ken here that Joe is a bit unfairly criticized. I mean, I see some of it but I don’t think he’s as bad as he’s often portrayed. As for Chip Caray, I’ve got to disagree with Ken here and vehemently. To each their own, and certainly the 1991 situation is commendable, but Chip doesn’t seem overly bright, he’s terribly cliche, and he’s insistent about not only injecting drama where no needs to be injected (or the situation is in no way dramatic) but he’s insistent about using way too many words to describe the time and place of every event. It’s like he’s perpetually proud that he can remember the inning and which city he’s in. I find him very grating. But to each his own I guess. Living out of market and with the Extra Innings package I can just flip it to the other guys. Kind of fun to get their perspective on the Braves anyway.

southgabrave

July 11th, 2012
2:23 pm

i totally agree with htownbrvesfan. In the 70’s almost all of the 80’s, the Braves season was over by July 1st. The only thing to look forward to was what prospect would they call up the end of August. The games were boring AND they lost. Chipper had little patience for the unknowledgible fan, but he could do an excellent job calling the game. He could also keep you informed. He would tell it like it was. He was a straight shooter and bitterly honest. If the Braves were bad he said so, not like the announcers today. Every good play is a “super” one. There are too many “super” or unbelieveable plays called now days. Most announcers are “boobs” now.

southgabrave

July 11th, 2012
2:27 pm

The greatest trio of announcers ever, Skip Ernie and Pete.

Chip Carey's Mama

July 11th, 2012
2:50 pm

Chip is a good boy, ya’ll don’t be talking any trash about my young’un.

Andy in Madison, AL

July 11th, 2012
2:51 pm

southgabrave I agree. I grew up in Albany listening to the Braves on 104.5 and those three made the games come alive. Ernie’s experience, Pete’s knowledge and Skip’s well, Skipism’s “The bases are loaded again and I’m beginning to wish I was” classic! Miss’em all!

reckingball

July 11th, 2012
2:53 pm

Chip has improved greatly as an announcer.
I used to not be able to stand listening to him, and now I can stand listening to him. haha.

reckingball

July 11th, 2012
3:11 pm

IMO, anyone that thinks that Wren should “go all in”, and trade the farm, so that the Braves “could take their best shot” at ‘it’ this year, should ‘revisit’(not forget) the “Texiera trade fiasco”.
Last night’s AllStar game would have been a good start at seeing and realizing, just how bad that deal Shirtholtz made, has hurt the Braves, since it was made.

trade rumors

July 11th, 2012
3:21 pm

hey i heard that:

Atlanta Braves Rumors

Justin Upton Rumors: Wednesday
By Ben Nicholson-Smith [July 11, 2012 at 1:06pm CST]
The Diamondbacks are willing to listen to offers for Justin Upton, but they’re not looking for prospects. “We’re still in win mode,” GM Kevin Towers told Nick Piecoro of the Arizona Republic. We’ll track the latest rumors on Upton here with the most recent updates up top.

•Olney suggests the Braves could be a fit for Upton (Twitter links). Atlanta could build a deal around third baseman/outfielder Martin Prado and pitching prospects, Olney writes. Upton would balance the Braves’ lineup and provide the team with cost certainty going forward, Olney adds.
•The Diamondbacks believe they could obtain a package of perhaps three players for Upton, Piecoro writes. Towers said he’s not shopping the right fielder, but will listen in case an enticing offer emerges. “Clubs have asked; I’ve said, ‘Hey, tell me what you would do.’ We could either say yes or say no,” the GM told Piecoro.

extremus

July 11th, 2012
3:44 pm

Regarding the Braves announcers (referring specifically to the television broadcasts), I think we’re still VERY fortunate with what we have. Chip Caray may never have the trademark sarcasm of his dad or the sheer association with the Braves that Harry Caray did with the Cubs, but he’s knowledgable and competent, and Joe Simpson has proven to be very good as well. Having familiar faces like Glavine, Murphy, and Smoltz in the booth every once in awhile has been a welcome change and helped to give longtime fans at least some link to the past.

We’ll always miss Ernie, Pete, and Skip; they were all literally the voices of our team for so many years. Perhaps at least some of the feelings against the newer broadcasters has to do with our old SuperStation WTBS memories being taken over by different subsidiaries of FOX Sports and such, in the same way that the Braves themselves now have a faceless corporate ownership that’s perceived as uncaring. Change inevitably comes and sometimes it’s for better, sometimes it’s for worse. To borrow Chipper’s phrase, we must appreciate the moment and what we have now, because when it’s gone it ain’t coming back.

Regardless, I see a HUGE disparity in overall commentary quality whenever ESPN, the main FOX station, or MLB does a Braves game. I’ll take Chip Caray and Joe Simpson over those guys and their constant diversions into football or whatever else their network is covering (that has zilch to do with what’s happening on the field) any day.

Jasons Shrinking Waist

July 11th, 2012
4:08 pm

the WORST by far is DON SUTTON

One Big Dummy

July 11th, 2012
4:25 pm

Trade Prado and WE RIOT!!!

reckingball

July 11th, 2012
4:28 pm

Is Olney suppose to be a baseball god?
Sometimes I believe that some of these experts like Olney, don’t know as much about certain teams, as the fans of those certain teams.
I would not trade Prado for Upton, and some of the snake’s prospects.
Prado and prospects for Upton, come on man, that is absurd.

Clydesdale

July 11th, 2012
4:34 pm

As a 46 year old who coaches some today, played off and on until I was 30, I have learned more about baseball from Don Sutton than all other announcers combined. I’d love to share a bottle of Merlot with Don one day and talk baseball. The radio with Jim Powell and Sutton is fantastic. I much prefer it to the television people.

Tumbledown

July 11th, 2012
4:37 pm

Reckingball: I guess I was saying that the Braves should not refrain from making a play for a strong starter because they were burned in the past by making a risky move for Texiera. It obviously backfired in hindsight. Nevertheless, one had to admire taking such a risk. I do agree that the Braves should not trade the farm, and they should not have to do so for a decent starter. There has to be a middle ground we can agree on regarding improving the team.

What do you suggest the Braves do to make a strong play for a title this year? Do we do nothing, go after a starter, make a bold play for Upton, or make minor moves to upgrade relief pitching and the bench? It is easy to rip another’s ideas, harder to come up with one’s own ideas.

Penpal

July 11th, 2012
4:45 pm

You have got to be kidding me. Trade Prado for Upton ?? and pitching prospects. No way. If Wren does that he is a fool. Michael B will probably be gone next year to the Yanks, Sox, or another team with deep pockets. Chipper will be gone. Prado is our glue that holds this team together as far as I am concerned. I think loosing Prado will change the chemistry of this team. Upton is not the answer.

Tumbledown

July 11th, 2012
4:47 pm

I also agree that trading Prado and pitching prospects for Upton would be foolish. We need starting pitching above anything else to make a deep playoff run.

bravesgrl4life

July 11th, 2012
4:57 pm

I’m with One Big Dummy: Trade Prado and I will be ready to riot!

Tumbledown

July 11th, 2012
5:02 pm

If I wrote I was with One Big Dummy, my wife would be justifiably upset.

Brave New World

July 11th, 2012
5:22 pm

Prado is way better than Upton. Prado has proven he’s a .300 hitter. Upton has a bunch of potential, but strikes out quite a bit.

Brave New World

July 11th, 2012
5:25 pm

It’s in the past, but it still bothers me how much talent we gave up for a 1 1/2 year rental of Texeira. Andrus, Feliz, Harrison, and Salty. Good grief, JS – what were you thinking? Letting Melky go was the right move at the time – he was pretty useless in Atlanta. I don’t think many could have envisioned Melky becoming a star.

Morris Code

July 11th, 2012
5:39 pm

They gave up too early on way too early on Melky just like some of you want management to give up on Francisco. That kid will be a star and is our future first baseman.

Morris Code

July 11th, 2012
5:39 pm

i meant third baseman

bravessss

July 11th, 2012
6:02 pm

Atlanta Braves very big team for Melky… a lot of pressure for him here… lol

he now is in the Giants…a joke team…they are famous for had the big cheater BARRY BONDS

64 year Braves fan

July 11th, 2012
6:29 pm

If the Braves would have had Kimbrel as their closer in the 90’s, they would have won 3 or 4 World Series. This kid throws unhittable strikes.

MiaBchBravesFan

July 11th, 2012
6:52 pm

I will not second guess the release of Milky – I agree with another poster above that this season is an aberration, and that he will fall back to his tubby, throw-the-ball-the-wrong-way, muddling .260 ways soon enough.

HOWEVER, someone made mention above regarding the infamous Teixeira trade. That one I will not let go, and will not forgive. Hopefully, the spectre of that contextual disaster will be enough to scare the peanuts and Cracker Jacks out of Franky-boy before he pulls the trigger on the likes of someone like Greinke, Dempster, or (gawd forbid!) Garza.

We better pray strong and hard that Ben Sheets becomes the post-All Star break story of the MLB. It’s that, or someone in the front office is going to do something really STUPID… AGAIN!!!

Say NO to any trades this season! Winter, is the right time.

JC Boscan III

July 11th, 2012
7:08 pm

One reason that some players like Melky and Francouer did well after leaving the Braves is WEIGHT, or less of it. In Jeff’s case, he bulked up like Heyward did, foolishly. Melky just got FAT, like Andruw Jones did. After Melky lost the weight, he had a great year in Kansas City and now San Fran. So, why don’t the Braves have requirements for these young players to get in and stay in “baseball shape”, not fat or bulked up?! Melky spent his time with the Braves waddling around in the outfield, when he should have been running laps to lose weight!!

Regarding Justin Upton, Prado’s having a better year. Yes, Upton had very good stats last year, but he’s not backed it up this year. Plus, Prado is the kind of “team player” that the Braves need — more consistent than most of our streaky hitters, willing to play any position, and a very hard worker. A bad trade idea………..

64 Year Braves Fan Is Right!

July 11th, 2012
7:10 pm

Dude – you’re DEAD on! Kimbrel just throws gas for strikes and keeps his mouth shut (so far). Take note Rocker! I get mad at the Braves for the dumb loses but always come back. Here since 1970 and still hangin’ on for the ride. Saw ‘em beat Arizona a couple of weeks ago and introduced my son to MLB. Of course, Kimbrel the flame thrower got the save!

KeepinThaFaith

July 11th, 2012
7:12 pm

We just need to be healthy folks. Lots of good “kids” playing on the Braves. Stay behind them. Let’s get a Wildcard and see what happens! GO BRAVES! God Bless Chief Knock a Homa!

Columbus

July 11th, 2012
7:15 pm

The Texiera trade is in the past move on. If you cant get over stuff in this life, its YOUR problem and the people that have reliationships with you. It dont hurt Schuerholz one bit if you dont forgive him…Thats life. Stuff happens. Good, bad and wrong. You still living in the past? What good does that do? None. Does TONS of harm though. And that goes for every perceived wrong that you ever experienced or witnessed. Growup and move on past the Texiera trade. ALL teams make abd oens once in a while. HAD the Braves won the world series once or twice, would you still be crying?

They took a chance and it backfired. when he did not resign. Maybe the Hawks should be reminded of how that worked out too. They better get a GUARANTEE in writing that Dwight WILL resign if they work out a deal….

Sheets is starting Sunday huh? Dont see the rus but it will be a GREAT test to see where he is at. Even if he does OK, the 3rd and 4th start is what I will be looking at. He has a LOT to prove to get on this roster with how ALL the starters have pitched the last 2 weeks…

Columbus

July 11th, 2012
7:20 pm

Wthout Prado the braves would have been MUCH less of a team since he has been there AND plays so MANY positions. Only a MORON would trade him. He brings energy and consistency too…not to mention is a 300 hitter who dont strike out much….EVERY team would LOVE to have him. should have been an allstar this year too….He MIGHT play short some the next month and I say do that half the time and let CONSTANZA play right! He will tear it up if he gets some playing time and gets called back up and help win a few games that might be losses. Speed, speed speed. Id rather have him on the bench than Heinske or Diaz….

Columbus

July 11th, 2012
7:21 pm

I get it that Diaz is a righty but….all about production and scoring and hes better in the field

cowdogit

July 11th, 2012
7:26 pm

I know my Lab will be happy when Chipper retires, He’s been scared to go to Bark In The Park day since he read Chipper kills animals for the joy of killing.

reckingball

July 11th, 2012
7:40 pm

Tumbledown @4:37,,,,,You said go all in, and forget about what happened with Texiera. That is what I responded to.
And no, I did not “admire” Shirtholtz, for taking that “risk”, I thought that it was a terrible move, when it was made. I didn’t think that the Braves were good enough to make it that year.
I might be wrong(it happens a lot), but I believe that you were one of the posters on this blog advocating a complete tear down of this team, and starting over with a new rebuild, not too long ago.
My suggestion, is play the hand that they have been dealt.
If they can get a starter for low cost, and not lose any top prospects, then they will probably get a starter, that isn’t any better than the starters that they have not, more than likely.
I can’t see giving away young players like the ones that Shirtholtz sent to Texas, or paying someone like Lowe a fortune to come to ATL.
I think that Minor and Delgado are improving with every start.
I hope that Sheets can be the miracle that they need, they have had plenty of bad luck already, maybe some of the good luck will come their way, for a change.
But I am not the GM, I’ll wait like everyone else, and see what Wren has cooked up.
This is only my humble opinion, it really doesn’t matter.

reckingball

July 11th, 2012
7:48 pm

People learn from past mistakes, and I believe that Wren learned a good lesson from your buddy Sdhureholz’s monumentally stupid Texiera trade.
I believe that is one of the reasons that they moved him out of the GM position, with a promotion.
It is in the past, but I won’t forget it, and I hope that Wren doesn’t either.

DoninAcworth

July 11th, 2012
9:10 pm

I’m with Hooser on Kimbrel, he’s THE MAN! Also, if you are a Braves fan you and everyone else in the Baseball nation received a load of us last night. Now, as for Chippers talk…AWESOME! As was Tony and all the players that had good things to say about Chipper. Oh, and Joe Buck …whew, hello Braves fans everywhere.

DoninAcworth

July 11th, 2012
9:18 pm

Having just read all of the comments I must post again… please do not add dumb comments about one of the greatest Dodger and National League pitchers. 323 wins,
one winning All Star game and he waltzed into the Hall in ‘98. Now, if you want to learn baseball and you somehow can get one of the two lousy stations on your radio tune him in and turn down the sound on the “bad” TV announcers…. well Simpson is okay but not the expert Don Sutton is. Please Braves, get a radio station we can listen to even all the way out here in Acworth, Georgia. One more thing… better get your ticket for Chipper night now!

Game Changer

July 11th, 2012
9:40 pm

Mark Reynolds and Dan Uggla battle for the season record?

Yogi Berra

July 11th, 2012
11:17 pm

The name is John Schuerholz…reckingball. I don’t know if you were spelling it wrong on purpose are not.

T-Dawg

July 11th, 2012
11:42 pm

If I hear one more thing about Prado being traded I’m going to sell my Braves fan membership. Of course, the stock itself has already dipped. Martin Prado is the future leader of this club and 3rd basemen are hard to find. He is so valuable to this team that to even mention him in a trade is just absurd. Unless we can get Jared Weaver, Albert Pujols. (Angels would have to thrown in cash too). It’s just that bad of an idea.

Ueeediot

July 12th, 2012
12:02 am

Dear Seattle Mariners,

You guys arent going to win a division until steroids are allowed again. Send the Braves Felix Hernandez. We will send you Mike Minor and (insert relief pitcher/minor league pitcher).

Thanks

reckingball

July 12th, 2012
1:59 am

Yogi, thank you for your concern about my spelling of the Schuerholz’s name, I am quite aware of the correct spelling.
The fact is, I don’t care how I spell it.

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Good Grief Charlie Brown

July 12th, 2012
8:07 am

some of you are complaining about the Braves TV broadcast team, but i can promise you that in comparison to some others, it’s not that bad. watch a local simulcast game on MLB Network for any team sometime and you’ll see what i mean. some of those guys are just downright boring.

for the Braves, i usually mute the TV anyway and listen to Don and Jim on the radio broadcast; they are much more entertaining and informative than Chip and Joe.

DetroitBraves

July 12th, 2012
8:39 am

I don’t really think there is anything to this Upton deal but he is not yet 24 years old and was a 6.8 WAR player as recently as last season. Excellent power, excellent speed, excellent defense and very affordable contract. I do like Prado quite a bit but even at his best his bat is nothing special at a corner position (if he were still at second the bat would play much better). Watching Heyward and Upton develop in the outfield corners would be something very special to see in Atlanta.

DetroitBraves

July 12th, 2012
8:45 am

As for Buster Olney, I believe he is well-respected within the industry. When he says he has good authority to post a rumor more than likely he does. Now, when he starts delving into statistical analysis I think he’s a little out of his element. ESPN employs a couple of other writers that are more qualified on that front. But in terms of gathering and disseminating information, Buster’s about as good as it gets right now.

Morris Code

July 12th, 2012
9:22 am

If the snakes would take Prado and a top pitching prospect for Upton, then it’s a no brainer. Upton has an incredibly high ceiling and Prado is about maxed out with in production with the talent that he has. could you imagine an outfield of Bourne, Heyward, and Upton? Now i’m not a big fan of minorities, but that would be one heck of an outfield.

Tumbledown

July 12th, 2012
9:55 am

Reckingball (7:40 pm) – Your points are well taken and matter. I apologize if I get a bit reactionary to the Braves’ plight. I feel like I have had this long relationship with the team (since the mid 70s), and have seen many different types of failures over nearly forty years. Last season’s epic collapse was by far my worst esperience as a Braves’ fan and that is saying something considering how bad they were in the late 70’s and late 80’s.

I want a championship team. Sometimes I think that might involve taking a couple steps back with a massive rebuild from the top to the bottom so that the team can take more steps forward. This idea is based on my belief that the Braves have slowly regressed over the last sixteen years or so since their 1995 WS win. They have gradually slipped from a perennial WS contender to a team that grasps for a wild card spot. Trace the Braves’ results from 1996 to now and you should see a generally bad trend.

This year’s team has given me some hope though. I thought at the beginning of the year the team would sink like the titanic. The Braves have not done that and have battled through a tough schedule so far and a few injuries. There are good pieces in place. Some of these pieces will not be here next year. The Braves’ bad TV contract and corporate ownership makes me feel that the team will not be a perennial contender like they were in the 90s. This seems like the year to get that good pitcher, especially as there is no dominant team in the NL who has the Braves’ number. There is a middle ground between playing it safe at the moment and doing a bad Texiera-style (or Len Barker) trade.

I hope that any reader of this post will understand that I care tremendously about the Braves. I may get a bit reactionary at times and a bit gloomy, but I just want to see the team eyeball a championship and not play it safe.

reckingball

July 12th, 2012
10:24 am

BTW, the word is ‘or’ not ‘are’ …..Yogi Berra @11:17pm. I don’t know if you were speeling it wrong on porpose ‘or’ knot.
I kid.
go braves!

Dan

July 12th, 2012
10:39 am

I much prefer the radio broadcasts to Braves TV, and I appreciate Don Sutton’s insight and the chemistry between him and Jim Powell. My problem with Sutton is his play-by-play, which is just inarticulate. Sometimes I can’t tell whether the ball “hit into the outfield” was a hit or an out until after the play is over.

reckingball

July 12th, 2012
10:43 am

@ 9:55 am…….”They have slipped from a perennial WS contender to a team that grasps for a WC spot.”
That is why I think the Braves should try and hold onto as much of their young affordable talent, as possible.
The days of wine and roses are gone, they don’t have the deep pockets, full of the big $$$, these days.
IMO, as long as you have a chance to get a WC, you have a chance to win the WS.
That’s better than giving away all of your young players for a roll of the dice, to get into a WS one year, at the cost of being bad for the next 5 to to 10 years, after that.
Spending money, doesn’t guarantee a WS title anyways.

reckingball

July 12th, 2012
10:54 am

“Sometimes I can’t tell whether the ball “hit into the outfield” was a hit or an out until after the play is over.”
My theory on that is, Sutton is more concerned with spewing his insight and wisdom out to his listening audience, than he is in calling the game properly.

Delbert D.

July 12th, 2012
11:16 am

Got to get Mike Bourn under a new contract.

Tumbledown

July 12th, 2012
11:41 am

Why continue this discussion when the two-step solution is clear:

(1) Fire McDowell since his presence obviously has ruined our pitchers’ health; and
(2) Play Constanza every game as he is clearly the greatest outfielder and greatest lucky charm all in one.

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