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Efrim
July 13th, 2012
10:13 am
Yeah, it’s tough to have a lot of faith in Sheets. They need to add a starter, which I’m sure they will.
Lew
July 13th, 2012
10:13 am
Maybe the Chopping Cow?
Frankie
July 13th, 2012
10:16 am
Efrim-
I know I sound like a broken record but any thoughts on trying to get Dempster?
MFin04
July 13th, 2012
10:18 am
If the offense gets going, we may not have to worry about the pitching staff as much.
cricket
July 13th, 2012
10:19 am
if Sheets misses some bats, we can have faith in him
Tomahawkin
July 13th, 2012
10:20 am
Arkansas Transplant
“jeffrey d, yeah I saw where you jumped in there.. pretty asinine statements over there. Had to get out!!”
I think Im gonna Go Take a Sneek Peek at it…Again
I was on it at 715 this morning and I left as soon as I saw That Chris Viva-loca (Spelling) dude running it…then I left because there were a but of new cats whom I haven’t seen on the FCOL blog on there
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
July 13th, 2012
10:21 am
Marco Scutaro, Brenden Ryan, Willie Bloomquist, Cody Ransom and Jamey Carroll, are just a few of the names which have come up concerning trade rumors for infielders.
Tomahawkin
July 13th, 2012
10:21 am
Friday Riffs: What’s your favorite ’90s one-hit wonder?
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-music-scene/2012/07/13/friday-riffs-whats-your-favorite-90s-one-hit-wonder/?cxntlid=thbz_hm
Good stuff to start on a Friday before that Huge Series gets started tonight
Must See!
Efrim
July 13th, 2012
10:22 am
I know I sound like a broken record but any thoughts on trying to get Dempster?
Since I don’t think we’d have to give up any of Minor, Delgado, or Teheran to get him, he’s probably the guy I’d target over Greinke, Garza, Liriano, Vargas, etc…
Trader Jack
July 13th, 2012
10:22 am
Lew
Just wanted to say thanks regarding the kind words you had yesterday for my Quakers. People do confuse Penn and Penn State more than I like to admit
Murph
July 13th, 2012
10:23 am
I think Sheets is going to surprise a lot of people. I know he won’t be the dominant pitcher he once was, but he’s still got a little zip on the ol’ fastball and he knows how to pitch.
At the very least… he’s well-rested and should be able to eat some innings.
Murph
July 13th, 2012
10:23 am
Trader Jack, headed to shore this summer?
Efrim
July 13th, 2012
10:25 am
And yes, adding Dempster or any other starter is worth it.
Lew
July 13th, 2012
10:27 am
Trader Jack – I was born and raised in Philly and went to Girard College, so I’m pretty familiar with it – had relatives go to Temple, Drexel and Wharton, too.
Trader Jack
July 13th, 2012
10:27 am
Murph
July 13th, 2012
10:23 am
Trader Jack, headed to shore this summer?
Was there until about 2 weeks ago. The extended family has now taken over the place -LOL
Your family is do there next week?
Tomahawkin
July 13th, 2012
10:28 am
@Murph
Sheets will pull a 2004 Version of Jaret Wright or a 2005 Version of Jorge Sosa, Bank On It
Just Give the man Some DAMN Run Support and he has the stuff to go 7-3 in about 13-15 starts
He is gonna save this patchwork rotation
MFin04
July 13th, 2012
10:29 am
“At the very least… he’s well-rested and should be able to eat some innings.”
Yep, no need to make a move until all of our options are explored. Still don’t know why they don’t consider Medlen. They thing kinda just blew up. But yes, Sheets will hopefully pitch well…I am optimistic.
Arkansas Transplant
July 13th, 2012
10:29 am
I’m not sure Dempster would come that cheap, specially since we’d ask the Cubs to pay some of his salary in return. I’d like to see us keep Minor, Delgado and Teheran for the remainder of the season but I’m not thinking that’s possible and still fix the issues we currently have. It’d be really nice to hang onto all 3 of them and add someone like Dempster along with Willingham and Carroll.
Murph
July 13th, 2012
10:29 am
Mrs Murph and the girls are actually arriving today… they’ll be there for 2 weeks. I’m heading out next week to meet them. Can’t wait.
The 4 year old already has her day planned. Drop off bags, beach, Hoys, Avalon Freeze, beach, and then back to Hoys.
Trader Jack
July 13th, 2012
10:30 am
Lew
July 13th, 2012
10:27 am
Trader Jack – I was born and raised in Philly and went to Girard College, so I’m pretty familiar with it – had relatives go to Temple, Drexel and Wharton, too.
Same here Lew.
BA Swarthmore College
MBA The Wharton School
Not bad for a kid from the Frankford section of Philly
Trader Jack
July 13th, 2012
10:34 am
Murph
Enjoy, The weather has been great, even though the ocean has been a little cool, albeit refreshing
Lew
July 13th, 2012
10:34 am
Trader Jack – My family is still living in the same house in Jamison in Central Bucks, Co., though I went to school in the city. My sister went to Westchester State and my grandparents lived out by the airport.
Trader Jack
July 13th, 2012
10:37 am
Lew – That area of Bucks county has grown so much, I hardly recognize it
Tomahawkin
July 13th, 2012
10:38 am
Uggghhh
I cant stand It when They play that “You Cant Get What You Want” Song on 97.1
Why Does everyone like that song?
Im turning it to Colin Cowherd….
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
July 13th, 2012
10:41 am
NOW THE BLOG WANTS RYAN DEMPSTER……………..
Um, we should have inked the guy back in 2008 instead of Derek Lowe. But what the hell do I know, I’m not Frank Wren
Murph
July 13th, 2012
10:43 am
The blog’s wants change hourly… Dempster, Greinke, beef jerky, Garza, Willingham, pulled pork, Kate Upton… I love the short attention span around this place. Keeps it interesting.
Lew
July 13th, 2012
10:43 am
Trade Jack – That’s the truth – When I started school (back in the dawn of prehistory) the elementary school was a single building – no kindergarted was even offered. Three years later they added an extra building. They now have two elemanetary schools covering acres of land and numerous kindergartens.
Our next door neighbor was a flower farmer – acres of flowers all summer long.with only two houses on a quarter mile long lane. Now there are several apartment complexes next door and a dozen homes.
MFin04
July 13th, 2012
10:44 am
Murph – SQUIRREL!
Efrim
July 13th, 2012
10:44 am
I just want a starter, as long as it’s not Liriano or Vargas.
Arkansas Transplant
July 13th, 2012
10:44 am
Murph, speaking of pulled pork. I ate at a place in Dallas this week that had some pretty good sandwiches and the scenery was too bad either.
Frankie
July 13th, 2012
10:47 am
Just Dempster, well Kate Upton as well
Arkansas Transplant
July 13th, 2012
10:47 am
Efrim, I’m not too interested in Garza either. But that’s based on the amount we’d have to pay to get him. I’d perfer us to get Greinke outside of him there aren’t many I’d be willing to include one of the big 3 for.
Efrim
July 13th, 2012
10:48 am
Damn, David Filak has an ERA of 8.74 in his last 10 starts. I actually liked that pick from the 2010 draft(4th rounder), but he’s struggled in professional ball to date.
Venice Jim
July 13th, 2012
10:48 am
I was surprised to see tomorrow’s game listed in the LA Times as our Fox game tomorrow – nice of the Angels and Yankees to play earlier…
Frankie
July 13th, 2012
10:49 am
2008 Dempster 18 wins for the Cubs and starts game 1 in the playoffs.
Lays a egg though and walks 7 guys in a pretty disappointing performance.
Still, guy was a closer before(pretty good one) and knows how to deal with pressure(Greinke not sold).
Trader Jack
July 13th, 2012
10:51 am
Lew- My brother lived in Holland for years, another place that was completely over run by tract housing. Damn shame
Tomahawkin
July 13th, 2012
10:51 am
@COACH
I’m with you bro…
I thought I was the Only one Who gets Turned OFF by Ryan Dumpster! He would get Killed by the Phillies in their Ballpark
Lew
July 13th, 2012
10:52 am
Trader Jack – Yep, guess what they say about you can’t go home is true cause it no longer exists – aty least like you remember it.
Capt.Mudd
July 13th, 2012
10:53 am
@TraderJack I see another–or a continuation exists presently regarding PA: I thought I would perhaps join in somewhat……I spent 4.5 years in Hanover, PA and 2.5 in Reading…..and, as trite as it may be; I have wondered if any of you fly? My brother in-law runs/owns an aircraft business in Pottstown which services and sells Pipers, etc.
Murph
July 13th, 2012
10:56 am
Murph, speaking of pulled pork. I ate at a place in Dallas this week that had some pretty good sandwiches and the scenery was too bad either.
Scenery as in Dallas skyline or scenery as in gorgeous Texas women? Or both? I love Texas in the summer!
How’s your trip going?
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
July 13th, 2012
10:56 am
Efrim
July 13th, 2012
10:44 am
I just want a starter, as long as it’s not Liriano or Vargas.
>>>>>
NO, you just want to be Disagreeable.
Arkansas Transplant
July 13th, 2012
10:58 am
Actually I drove back yesterday and I’m unfortunately sitting in my work cube. Enjoyed my time while I was there though… and to answer your question… the women.
Trader Jack
July 13th, 2012
10:59 am
Capt.Mudd
When I fly it’s commercial only. Having lived in Hanover and Reading, you must have a good knowledge of pretzels – LOL
cricket
July 13th, 2012
11:02 am
Bill James defends Paterno by cherry-picking a point. color me surprised (not really)..
UNCBrave
July 13th, 2012
11:05 am
Enter your comments here
Bat Masterson
July 13th, 2012
11:06 am
cricket _
Do you have a link to the Bill James comments?
cricket
July 13th, 2012
11:07 am
Marlins save $200,000 while signing Heaney below slot amount
jeffrey d
July 13th, 2012
11:08 am
Bill James
The Freeh reports states quite explicitly and at least six times (a) that the 1998 incident did NOT involve any criminal conduct—on the part of Sandusky or anyone else—and (b) that Paterno had forced the resignation of Sandusky before the 1998 incident occurred … In any case, what EXACTLY is it that Paterno should have done? Fire him again? It is preposterous to argue, in my view, that PATERNO should have taken action after all of the people who were legally charged to take action had thoroughly examined the case and decided that no action was appropriate.
cricket
July 13th, 2012
11:11 am
Bat – here’s the link and another link to a nice write-up
http://deadspin.com/5925694/someone-actually-thinks-the-freeh-report-exonerated-joe-paterno-and-its-bill-james?tag=penn-state-scandal
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/13/bill-james-probably-needs-to-stop-commenting-on-the-penn-state-scandal/related/
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
July 13th, 2012
11:13 am
So why bring up Liriano’s name in trade discussion?
BECAUSE, he’s pitching as good or better than any other pitcher who’s name has come up.
First, dude’s a lefty, second, he’s never pitched in the NL, third, that’s a huge advantage.
Since rejoining the Twins rotation Liriano has posted an ERA of 2.74. He’s given up ONE RUN or less in five of his eight starts. He’s averaging a strike out PER INNING, Yea, per inning. Dude has been lights out for the last six weeks. Liriano just held the Rangers to one in his last start, and they are arguably the best team in the big leagues.
Arkansas Transplant
July 13th, 2012
11:14 am
Liriano? No thanks.
cricket
July 13th, 2012
11:16 am
“If Heath Bell does not pitch the way he should be pitching, we are not going anywhere,’’ Guillen said. “If he continues to pitch the way he has pitched, we’re done.’
cricket
July 13th, 2012
11:17 am
If the season ended today, Lincecum (above)—a two-time Cy Young Award winner—would have the worst adjusted ERA, 55, of any pitcher who has thrown at least 95 innings in a season since at least 1901.
Murph
July 13th, 2012
11:18 am
He’s averaging a strike out PER INNING, Yea, per inning.
Sweet!
Too bad he’s only averaging 4 innings per start.
unbelievable
July 13th, 2012
11:19 am
Liriano has pitched well since April and a move to the NL should only help. Id take him over Minor or Delgado at this point.
jeffrey d
July 13th, 2012
11:19 am
Why, that’s 4 strikeouts!
ncbravesfan90
July 13th, 2012
11:20 am
“Too bad he’s only averaging 4 innings per start.”
Umm, no. He was in the bullpen part of this season….
MFin04
July 13th, 2012
11:20 am
Justin Upton for his career: .924 OPS at home, .744 OPS on the Road.
Gotta do your homework on the guy.
jeffrey d
July 13th, 2012
11:20 am
He’s also given up 10 walks in his past 2 starts…that’s not exactly “lights out”
Bat Masterson
July 13th, 2012
11:21 am
cricket & jeffrey ……… Thanks
That’s just crazy
Murph
July 13th, 2012
11:22 am
Liriano has walked 10 guys in his last 2 starts. 10… a little less than 1 per inning pitched.
I don’t know about the AL, but it seems every time a Braves starter gives up more than one walk in a game he ends up paying for it.
Like AT said… no thanks.
unbelievable
July 13th, 2012
11:22 am
in his past 2 starts
too large of a sample size for me
cricket
July 13th, 2012
11:23 am
why do people do this? the fan accused of yelling racial slurs at Carl Crawford called in a radio show next day to defend himself, leading to him being identified as a local cop and now he is under investigation..
Murph
July 13th, 2012
11:23 am
Doh! Scooped by jeffrey.
Capt.Mudd
July 13th, 2012
11:24 am
@TraderJack…….Utz chips too! Hanover Brands? All those veggies too………..per Reading; the pretzels are best @Unique…..on Fifth St. Hwy.; the thins with the “splits.” Got to do so myself, take care.
jeffrey d
July 13th, 2012
11:24 am
But you offered more analysis
Murph
July 13th, 2012
11:25 am
too large of a sample size for me
How about 21 walks in his last 6 starts?
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
July 13th, 2012
11:26 am
Murph
July 13th, 2012
11:18 am
He’s averaging a strike out PER INNING, Yea, per inning.
Sweet!
Too bad he’s only averaging 4 innings per start.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
You would be wrong, but it’s a waste of time trying to explain why.
jeffrey d
July 13th, 2012
11:27 am
How about 21 walks in his last 6 starts?
Or 4th in the AL in walks (and that’s not as a full time starter…he’s got about 20 innings fewer than the top 3)
jeffrey d
July 13th, 2012
11:28 am
You would be wrong, but it’s a waste of time trying to explain why.
I took out his bullpen games, and he’s pitching a little over 5 innings per game
Lew
July 13th, 2012
11:28 am
Capt – I interviewed at Albright College in Reading – ended up at Georgia College instead. Aren’t Bachman’s pretzels from Reading as well as Snyder’s
ncbravesfan90
July 13th, 2012
11:28 am
Anybody care to provide his ERA since May 30th (his return back to the starting rotation)………
cricket
July 13th, 2012
11:29 am
and that’s not as a full time starter
over-achiever
ncbravesfan90
July 13th, 2012
11:30 am
“I took out his bullpen games, and he’s pitching a little over 5 innings per game”
Well dang, that would only be better than 2 of our starting pitchers.
Arkansas Transplant
July 13th, 2012
11:31 am
How about the guy has only pitched more than 136 innings in a season once over his career and he’s already at 83 this season… doesn’t exactly sound like someone you can depend on being there the rest of the season. Which is exactly something we don’t need.
Arkansas Transplant
July 13th, 2012
11:33 am
not to mention that career WHIP of 1.345 which is actually better than this year’s and last’s.
MFin04
July 13th, 2012
11:35 am
““I took out his bullpen games, and he’s pitching a little over 5 innings per game”
Well dang, that would only be better than 2 of our starting pitchers.”
Are we including Tommy Hanson in there as well.
Couldn’t resist.
Lew
July 13th, 2012
11:37 am
Transplant – Actually Liriano pitrched 191 innings in 2010 and 134 last year. Hardly an innings eater, but let’s at least be accurate.
unbelievable
July 13th, 2012
11:37 am
How about 21 walks in his last 6 starts?
Better, still doesnt change the fact that I said he was an upgrade over Minor and Delagdo. Comparing past 8 starts
Liriano – 49.1IP 30H 10ER 1HR 24BB 52K
Minor – 45IP 38H 24ER 11HR 25BB 35K
Delgado – 41.1IP 44H 22ER 4HR 18BB 32K
He’s someone that would be an upgrade without having to trade a top prospect to get. Minor and Delgado can both go back to AAA.
Hillbilly
July 13th, 2012
11:38 am
Well the Marlins signed Heaney for $2.6 million ($2.8 slot). So while they’re still classless idiots, we can’t cite THAT as a reason.
jeffrey d
July 13th, 2012
11:39 am
He said he pitched over 136 innings once.
Bat Masterson
July 13th, 2012
11:39 am
Hanson is at 5.9 and on pace for right at 200 innings
jeffrey d
July 13th, 2012
11:40 am
Hanson is at 5.9 and on pace for right at 200 innings
And that’s going up, right? It seems like he’s been going deeper into games lately
Arkansas Transplant
July 13th, 2012
11:40 am
Lew, where was I not accurate?
How about the guy has only pitched more than 136 innings in a season once over his career
134 last year is less than 136 and I did state he’s had more than that 136 once.
unbelievable
July 13th, 2012
11:40 am
Marlins dont have to offer slot. They could offer more and the kid could still not sign. It works both ways.
Hillbilly
July 13th, 2012
11:43 am
Hoping RHP Teddy Stankiewicz doesn’t reach an agreement with the Mets. He would be wearing Razorback Red net season if he doesn’t.
MFin04
July 13th, 2012
11:44 am
“And that’s going up, right? It seems like he’s been going deeper into games lately”
Well he has been going deeper, but he has been getting in trouble when he has gotten deeper. So take that as you will. It seems he has his meltdown inning as his last inning pitched.
Efrim
July 13th, 2012
11:46 am
Hanson is at 5.9 and on pace for right at 200 innings
Since beginning of June, he’s at a 6.45 inning pace. 222 innings in 34 starts projected over a major league season. In that time, 3.55 ERA and a 36/12 K/BB ratio.
MFin04
July 13th, 2012
11:47 am
The lineup I am most excited about…
Bourn
Prado
Chipper
McCann
Uggla
Freeman
Heyward
Wilson
Hudson
Bat Masterson
July 13th, 2012
11:47 am
And that’s going up, right? It seems like he’s been going deeper into games lately
7 … 8…. 5.1….. 5 ….. 6.1 ….. 7 …… 7 in his last seven starts
Hillbilly
July 13th, 2012
11:48 am
unbelievable,
Reports yesterday were that the Marlins were low-balling the crap out of him. That would have forced him to either sign waaaaaay below slot or return to college as a senior with no leverage whatsoever. Had the kid by the balls if those reports were true, but who knows. He’s signed and it’s all in the wind now.
cricket
July 13th, 2012
11:48 am
Unless you are someone like Apple and have Boras as agent, majority of the kids are going to take below-slot offers instead of risking drop off / injury by next year’s draft. Also, teams can just low-ball severely and not sign the kids the kids and still get compensatory draft choices next year. System is now in favor of teams, just the way veteran players wanted – leaves more money for ML players compared to prospects who may never make it to majors, and are not part of ML union to begin with.
Lew
July 13th, 2012
11:48 am
Transplant – Yeah, but he sounds a lot worse saying he only pitched more than 136 once rather than saying he’s had three seasons above 134 IP with one over 190IP.
You parsed the numbers to make him fit your version of how good he could be.
Lew
July 13th, 2012
11:49 am
Or how bad he is.
MFin04
July 13th, 2012
11:49 am
Ok and truth be told on Hanson, if he was pulled an inning early in a couple of his starts…his innings pitched would be down a little, but his ERA would be down a lot.
So you can go either way with that. Do you want him trying to go 7 innings with 3 or 4 runs given up. Or 5/6 innings with 1 or 2 runs given up and more stress on the bullpen?
Efrim
July 13th, 2012
11:49 am
I’m not sure if the Brewers and/or Phillies will ultimately deal Hamels or Greinke, but it’s only a matter of time before the Cubs deal both Garza and Dempster. Garza isn’t going to get you nearly as much this offseason with the amount of starters available via free agency. Theo needs to act within the next 10-14 days, I’d say.
Lew
July 13th, 2012
11:50 am
And despite the number of walks, he’s obviously pitched out of trouble – something Minor and Delgado have not learned how to do yet.
Arkansas Transplant
July 13th, 2012
11:51 am
MFin04, it seems to me that Hanson has had most of his troubles early on in the game.. not later.
Efrim
July 13th, 2012
11:51 am
So you can go either way with that. Do you want him trying to go 7 innings with 3 or 4 runs given up. Or 5/6 innings with 1 or 2 runs given up and more stress on the bullpen?
So, you believe he is not capable of pitching 7 innings and giving up less than 3 runs based on those 3 starts? Is that what I’m reading here?
cricket
July 13th, 2012
11:51 am
It seems he has his meltdown inning as his last inning pitched.
this sounds like you always find something you lost in the last place you look