could people explain in details what constitutes the school “death penalty” , i’m curious to know what the penalties are… on a side note, the franchise last night was supremely entertaining, especially the opening segment.. this is gonna be a great series, they picked the perfect team to look after… although this is the 2nd time they are following ozzie, still entertaining
Then all current and subsequent draftees should refuse to join the MLBPA upon receiving a major league contract, since it was their possibly-future brethren who gave the clubs that power.
The safest course is to do nothing against one’s conscience. With this secret, we can enjoy life and have no fear from Boras.
Most, especially the owner and his dip of a son-in-law, acted like bozo’s.
The only “real” parts were Ozzie’s remorse for his comments about Fidel and you had to feel bad for Gaby. Plus, Heath Bell seems like a stand-up guy.
and a lot of guys who would fit signed two or three year deals last winter(causeing the Braves to pass on them then) so the Braves are not going that route at this point most likely. when you get to that low level there is no guarantee that one guy will outhit another anyway. Wilson could pick it up a bit and some pickup could tank.
Such a clickish place it is here. When the nerds get going on something and you aren’t close to their thinking, they will scroll by your post quicker than McCann goes by a Subway restaurant. Tellin’ ya. Those damn nerds.
Bet the DBacks would eat that deal up, but it would suck for the Braves. They aren’t trading a .321, .383, .839 OPS player for someone who won’t hit for the same power in Atlanta and makes twice as much.
Oh ,I didn’t expect them to make a deal for a SS, just kinda hoped they would……
Olney sure opened up a can of worms with his Upton suggestion eh?
and did you hear the latest bunch of nonsense? Former Nats GM Jim Bowden suggested the Braves should make a trade for Justin Upton involving a package based around, get this, HEYWARD!!!
I wish he was STILL GM for the Nats, what a stupid idea
Bunch of nerds. I stirred the nerd pot. Baseball blog and some have to obsess over stats and other garbage even DOB has ripped on them for. Obsessing over this stuff. Like go scrub your retainers or polish your Luke Skywalker toys.
“You jerk! You are just a big jock who doesn’t understand the value of stat importance to America’s pastime. People like you are why the unemployment rate is soooooo high. If we want to obsess over the metrics side of baseball, then HOLY COW, we will do it! We will stick our fingers in our ears when you talk and shade our eyes of your ignorant posts. You’re too simple for me. Woman? What is that?”
the same ones who use the same insults and phrases and talk about the same stuff and deny ever having other names. You need a better memory to play that game
but hey, whatever you say….all just a big coincidence
are the Braves ever gonna play another game this season? years ago it used to be that most games started back up on Thursday, that was bad enuff, but this sukks
I’d like to see Varvaro or Avilan go down to Gwin. and have Delgado go to the bullpen. With Venters out, an arm like Delgado’s would be very useful in the eighth. Minor has to develop consistency, which he will only get with starts. In reality, since Delgado is a legit starter, he needs to go to Gwin. for more seasoning, but he is back next year in my book.
get real count. that has been played b4 too, except for the amount of the bet.
like I said you need a different attitude and some new dialog.
I mean its not even just the second or third time that you and I have had this same exchange.
whatever you say though….
On the Braves’ home page, a stupidly grinning Frank Wren is pondering how to best destroy this franchise. Hey Frank, do us all a favor and don’t trade for anything. The best you can hope for is that Sheets is a steady and competent #4 or #5. With Hudson, JJ, Hanson, and Minor, I am willing to stand pat. I would NOT trade ANY of our young arms for anyone right now – unless someone was willing to trade a LF with 3-4 arb years left who can RAKE…
I think Wren has done as good as he can do with what he’s got. My only knock on him has been our recent drafts, particularly the Gilmartin pick, and leaving Mike Trout on the board.
I would trade minor with a few B prospects for Lester. Greinke is the only other one on the market that interests me and with all the other teams lining up for him, the only way we get him is if greinke tells everybody that he wants to go to the braves and that he is going to sign with the braves in the offseason. Even then we would have to agree to an extension below market value. Not happening
With Huddy’s foot and back miseries, I don’t know if we see him next year (is it a club or player option?). With that, JJ (hopefully) being traded, and all the young arms poised, next year’s rotation would be a nice mix of young and rookie by July:
Hanson, Beachy, Minor, Delgado, and Medlen/Teheran/Vizcaino/Gilmartin. Who knows? Sheets might be Comeback POTY and re-sign with us at a hometown discount.
Scranton, PA…….just about broke, financial hardship……..JoePa, a lost tarnished relic….what’s next? The Amish are leaving to pursue celebrity in LA? Poor and sad days in Pennsylvania.
seriously? you think I’m gonna drop it? the more you respond the more you use the same stuff you have used b4. need to work on some memory exercises.;)
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Trader Jack
July 12th, 2012
6:08 pm
Anders
to all those Penn fans of what Joe Pa was really about.
Sorry Anders, it’s probably a typo but as a grad of the University of Pennsylvania, I take offense
unbelievable
July 12th, 2012
6:10 pm
I dont hate the Pastor. I just know he’s, by far, the worst defensive SS Ive ever seen.
count_schemula
July 12th, 2012
6:12 pm
Pre hate is a joke from yesterday.
We’ve been without baseball for days now. We have…
SPACE MADNESS!
nolie
July 12th, 2012
6:15 pm
never saw Andres Thomas or Rafy Ramirez, huh?
brian
July 12th, 2012
6:16 pm
right now I am glad that the rumor of Penn State coming to the ACC was just that a rumor
count_schemula
July 12th, 2012
6:17 pm
Why did we ever get rid of Pepe Frias?
nolie
July 12th, 2012
6:17 pm
yeah, having the Criminoles is enuff…..
kenhotlanta
July 12th, 2012
6:18 pm
Or Rod Gilbreath.
unbelievable
July 12th, 2012
6:20 pm
Looks like Fredi is leaning on starting Wilson according to some other sites.
Bozo ( The Clown )
July 12th, 2012
6:23 pm
could people explain in details what constitutes the school “death penalty” , i’m curious to know what the penalties are… on a side note, the franchise last night was supremely entertaining, especially the opening segment.. this is gonna be a great series, they picked the perfect team to look after… although this is the 2nd time they are following ozzie, still entertaining
nolie
July 12th, 2012
6:23 pm
which is why all that crap about getting rid of Wilson was doodoo . they are likely to chose D over O at short
count_schemula
July 12th, 2012
6:24 pm
Damn. Long month coming up.
Our middle infield could go 2-200 over the next 4 weeks…
nolie
July 12th, 2012
6:24 pm
I though it was a show about a buncha Bozos
Anders
July 12th, 2012
6:26 pm
Trader Jack – No offense intended. Of course I was talking about Penn State fans.
count_schemula
July 12th, 2012
6:27 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_penalty_(NCAA)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Methodist_University_football_scandal
SMU was the big one, right after the era of Dickerson.
NickB
July 12th, 2012
6:27 pm
yeah but nolie, you can get better defense than Wilson with a better bat for peanuts
unbelievable
July 12th, 2012
6:29 pm
you can get better defense than Wilson with a better bat for peanuts
Unfortunately you cant from our in-house options and the second wild card spot has fewer teams selling.
Couch Tater
July 12th, 2012
6:31 pm
Then all current and subsequent draftees should refuse to join the MLBPA upon receiving a major league contract, since it was their possibly-future brethren who gave the clubs that power.
The safest course is to do nothing against one’s conscience. With this secret, we can enjoy life and have no fear from Boras.
NickB
July 12th, 2012
6:31 pm
There are options, and reasonable options. My biggest beef is the selling off of Drew Sutton….
But there are plenty of bench SS’s that can hit better than Wilson. and field better than his now, league avg defense
kenhotlanta
July 12th, 2012
6:32 pm
Most, especially the owner and his dip of a son-in-law, acted like bozo’s.
The only “real” parts were Ozzie’s remorse for his comments about Fidel and you had to feel bad for Gaby. Plus, Heath Bell seems like a stand-up guy.
nolie
July 12th, 2012
6:34 pm
and a lot of guys who would fit signed two or three year deals last winter(causeing the Braves to pass on them then) so the Braves are not going that route at this point most likely. when you get to that low level there is no guarantee that one guy will outhit another anyway. Wilson could pick it up a bit and some pickup could tank.
count_schemula
July 12th, 2012
6:36 pm
A moment of silence for… Rod Beck.
brian
July 12th, 2012
6:40 pm
many reasons these trades will never happen – monetary, trade package, etc., but I would love to see the Braves trade:
Teheran, Gattis, and Ahmed for Lester and Bard
Prado, Salcedo, and Northcraft for Upton
I will stick to that until after dinner then I will return to reality
unbelievable
July 12th, 2012
6:41 pm
•Look for Jack Wilson to start at SS Friday for #Braves. Team won’t make roster move until tomorrow. Still looking around, said Gonzalez. 44 mins ago
Braves must feel good about Andrelton being ready to return in 4 weeks.
Trader Jack
July 12th, 2012
6:41 pm
Anders
July 12th, 2012
6:26 pm
Trader Jack – No offense intended. Of course I was talking about Penn State fans.
No problem Anders. I’ve been having to bear that my entire adult life – LOL
ChattTownBrian
July 12th, 2012
6:47 pm
Such a clickish place it is here. When the nerds get going on something and you aren’t close to their thinking, they will scroll by your post quicker than McCann goes by a Subway restaurant. Tellin’ ya. Those damn nerds.
count_schemula
July 12th, 2012
6:47 pm
Sheets on Sunday.
My guess? Minor to AAA to “work on things.”
Couch Tater
July 12th, 2012
6:48 pm
I’ve been having to bear that my entire adult life.
Obviously, The Wharton School needs to join the SEC. : )
count_schemula
July 12th, 2012
6:48 pm
“they will scroll by your post quicker than McCann goes by a Subway restaurant.”
that’s um, not that quick…
Lew
July 12th, 2012
6:49 pm
Bet the DBacks would eat that deal up, but it would suck for the Braves. They aren’t trading a .321, .383, .839 OPS player for someone who won’t hit for the same power in Atlanta and makes twice as much.
NickB
July 12th, 2012
6:49 pm
Oh ,I didn’t expect them to make a deal for a SS, just kinda hoped they would……
Olney sure opened up a can of worms with his Upton suggestion eh?
and did you hear the latest bunch of nonsense? Former Nats GM Jim Bowden suggested the Braves should make a trade for Justin Upton involving a package based around, get this, HEYWARD!!!
I wish he was STILL GM for the Nats, what a stupid idea
Danga
July 12th, 2012
6:52 pm
Look for Jack Wilson to start at SS Friday for #Braves. Team won’t make roster move until tomorrow. Still looking around, said Gonzalez
Interesting. Obviously, they have seen all they want to out of Pastornicky as a SS.
ChattTownBrian
July 12th, 2012
6:53 pm
Most nerds also have zero personality or sense of humor, unless you’re talking “nerd sense of humor”.
nolie
July 12th, 2012
6:54 pm
you have to hope for the sake of the future gene pool that much of what is said here is in jest…..
NickB
July 12th, 2012
6:55 pm
Chatt
I believe it’s spelled cliqueish
kenhotlanta
July 12th, 2012
6:56 pm
Sheets starting Sunday and he sounds like CTB…got a big good ‘ol boy Southern accent.
Danga
July 12th, 2012
6:56 pm
nerd sense of humor
Humor involving 2 and 3 syllable words a bit much for you?
Bat Masterson
July 12th, 2012
6:56 pm
Figured it would be Wilson tomorrow with Hudson pitching.
count_schemula
July 12th, 2012
6:56 pm
that quick flip to Uggla is haunting the Pastor
ChattTownBrian
July 12th, 2012
6:56 pm
count, Mac doesn’t eat fresh and healthy.lol
Danga, thought the same thing.Pastornicky has worn out his welcome with that little league defense and wild arm. Sorry, truth is the truth.
count_schemula
July 12th, 2012
6:57 pm
“count, Mac doesn’t eat fresh and healthy.lol”
that’s the marketing
inside they have delights like bolgna and double meat and…
COOKIES!
count_schemula
July 12th, 2012
6:59 pm
Wharton School? Isn’t that where…
I’d sue Penn State for that alone.
ChattTownBrian
July 12th, 2012
7:01 pm
Bunch of nerds. I stirred the nerd pot. Baseball blog and some have to obsess over stats and other garbage even DOB has ripped on them for. Obsessing over this stuff. Like go scrub your retainers or polish your Luke Skywalker toys.
count_schemula
July 12th, 2012
7:02 pm
So, DOB…
I can only assume Okalahoma Joes and the ilk are better than anything we have ’round these parts. Care to share what you learned?
I’m a Carolina Low Country fan myself (pork, red pepper vinegar). I don’t rekon you had any pork this week?
NickB
July 12th, 2012
7:04 pm
Chatt
sounds like you are dealing with some personal intellectual underdevelopment issues……….
Call us nerds all ya want, but I played the game, play rock and roll for a living these days(sold my bar) and I STILL love stats
Bat Masterson
July 12th, 2012
7:07 pm
Who’s going down to AAA, Delgado or Minor?
Place your bets
ChattTownBrian
July 12th, 2012
7:07 pm
In my nerd voice:
“You jerk! You are just a big jock who doesn’t understand the value of stat importance to America’s pastime. People like you are why the unemployment rate is soooooo high. If we want to obsess over the metrics side of baseball, then HOLY COW, we will do it! We will stick our fingers in our ears when you talk and shade our eyes of your ignorant posts. You’re too simple for me. Woman? What is that?”
nolie
July 12th, 2012
7:08 pm
vinegar BBQ is a sin against nature….
count_schemula
July 12th, 2012
7:08 pm
Minor.
He has more identifiable things to work on and needs a slap of the humble stick anyhow.
njbraves
July 12th, 2012
7:08 pm
I’m leaning towards Minor.
ChattTownBrian
July 12th, 2012
7:09 pm
NickB, you obsess over stats? No you don’t. I am talking the 24/7 stat geeks. Actually they’re creepy. Not normal at all.
count_schemula
July 12th, 2012
7:09 pm
“vinegar BBQ is a sin against nature….”
says the guy who thinks Hamburger Helper should get it’s own channel
kenhotlanta
July 12th, 2012
7:10 pm
Minor.
nolie
July 12th, 2012
7:10 pm
say what? you just insulted me beyond belief. That was CTB with the HH. pay attention dude…
count_schemula
July 12th, 2012
7:11 pm
“say what? you just insulted me beyond belief. That was CTB with the HH. pay attention dude…”
he cooked it, you praised it
don’t be so literal, it sucks the fun out, ya know?
Bat Masterson
July 12th, 2012
7:11 pm
nolie_
What’s up with that, I thought you didn’t care for BBQ?
Bama Brave
July 12th, 2012
7:11 pm
You did not Add trade Either.
kenhotlanta
July 12th, 2012
7:12 pm
Wow…our Olympic outfits and accessories “Made in China”. What a pizz poor decision by somebody!
count_schemula
July 12th, 2012
7:14 pm
He’s a contrarian. The BBQ is not the point.
nolie
July 12th, 2012
7:17 pm
I did not praise it. if you are gonna banter with a guy, insults based on facts are much more effective, they leave no out
I don’t much Bat, but I really don’t care for that sour ol vinegar stuff. I mean vinegar is what they use to treat a yeast infection
count_schemula
July 12th, 2012
7:19 pm
it wasn’t even an insult
you need a nap…
Trader Jack
July 12th, 2012
7:20 pm
ount_schemula
July 12th, 2012
6:59 pm
Wharton School? Isn’t that where…
I’d sue Penn State for that alone.
Yep MBA from the Wharton School and no I would not sue Penn State, which is a very decent state university
nolie
July 12th, 2012
7:21 pm
of course it was an insult, not one to be taken seriously, butcertainly bantering. you should leave your defensiveness with your other blog names…..
count_schemula
July 12th, 2012
7:22 pm
No other blog names. None. Never.
count_schemula
July 12th, 2012
7:23 pm
“Yep MBA from the Wharton School and no I would not sue Penn State, which is a very decent state university”
Great school. Shame you have to put up with this stigma. Forever.
nolie
July 12th, 2012
7:25 pm
yeah right count
count_schemula
July 12th, 2012
7:28 pm
Funny you think think that.
I’d love to know which “other” names you “know” are mine. lol
Bat Masterson
July 12th, 2012
7:28 pm
No doubt the cooking show comment was a jab
Trader Jack
July 12th, 2012
7:30 pm
count_schemula
July 12th, 2012
7:23 pm
“Yep MBA from the Wharton School and no I would not sue Penn State, which is a very decent state university”
Great school. Shame you have to put up with this stigma. Forever.
Really has no bearing. My resume allowed me to move in areas that few in Penn State could only dream about
nolie
July 12th, 2012
7:30 pm
the same ones who use the same insults and phrases and talk about the same stuff and deny ever having other names. You need a better memory to play that game
but hey, whatever you say….all just a big coincidence
nolie
July 12th, 2012
7:34 pm
are the Braves ever gonna play another game this season? years ago it used to be that most games started back up on Thursday, that was bad enuff, but this sukks
count_schemula
July 12th, 2012
7:34 pm
You got nothin’ on me old goat. Tell you what…
If you can prove it I’ll give you $100. If you’re wrong, you only owe me an apology.
Deal?
kenhotlanta
July 12th, 2012
7:34 pm
My posts are not showing up.
Bat Masterson
July 12th, 2012
7:35 pm
that one did
MiaBchBravesFan
July 12th, 2012
7:40 pm
I’d like to see Varvaro or Avilan go down to Gwin. and have Delgado go to the bullpen. With Venters out, an arm like Delgado’s would be very useful in the eighth. Minor has to develop consistency, which he will only get with starts. In reality, since Delgado is a legit starter, he needs to go to Gwin. for more seasoning, but he is back next year in my book.
kenhotlanta
July 12th, 2012
7:40 pm
Zero for three tries. Is “rattfink” a bad word?
kenhotlanta
July 12th, 2012
7:41 pm
How about Paterno, Penn State and Todd Blackledge? Anything wrong with them?
ChattTownBrian
July 12th, 2012
7:42 pm
Damn do they really need a full week off? Hell they get 4 months off here soon enough.
I just need some baseball so I can bitch about something other than nerds.
nolie
July 12th, 2012
7:42 pm
get real count. that has been played b4 too, except for the amount of the bet.
like I said you need a different attitude and some new dialog.
I mean its not even just the second or third time that you and I have had this same exchange.
whatever you say though….
MiaBchBravesFan
July 12th, 2012
7:43 pm
On the Braves’ home page, a stupidly grinning Frank Wren is pondering how to best destroy this franchise. Hey Frank, do us all a favor and don’t trade for anything. The best you can hope for is that Sheets is a steady and competent #4 or #5. With Hudson, JJ, Hanson, and Minor, I am willing to stand pat. I would NOT trade ANY of our young arms for anyone right now – unless someone was willing to trade a LF with 3-4 arb years left who can RAKE…
And I don’t see that happening.
ChattTownBrian
July 12th, 2012
7:44 pm
Fu** off nerd!
Don’t know … I’m bored. NEEEEEEEEEEEERD!
kenhotlanta
July 12th, 2012
7:44 pm
I got it: you can’t use the word h-a-t-e. Even in the context of college football rivalries.
Steve from OH
July 12th, 2012
7:46 pm
I think Wren has done as good as he can do with what he’s got. My only knock on him has been our recent drafts, particularly the Gilmartin pick, and leaving Mike Trout on the board.
Steve from OH
July 12th, 2012
7:46 pm
Of course, everyone was projecting Trout as a 20-30 range pick at the time, so hindsight is 20/20 I guess…
Capt.Mudd
July 12th, 2012
7:46 pm
No baseball tonight are bad words
nolie
July 12th, 2012
7:47 pm
Smilin’ Frank is his name…
ChattTownBrian
July 12th, 2012
7:47 pm
“Hamburger Helper … makes a great fight”
count_schemula
July 12th, 2012
7:47 pm
Seriously. Prove it or drop it.
I use one name. Period.
count_schemula
July 12th, 2012
7:48 pm
““Hamburger Helper … makes a great fight””
Please tell me you did not put vinegar on the HH?
brian
July 12th, 2012
7:49 pm
Wider if the braves wii resume their interest in Nunez of the NYY
brian
July 12th, 2012
7:53 pm
I would trade minor with a few B prospects for Lester. Greinke is the only other one on the market that interests me and with all the other teams lining up for him, the only way we get him is if greinke tells everybody that he wants to go to the braves and that he is going to sign with the braves in the offseason. Even then we would have to agree to an extension below market value. Not happening
MiaBchBravesFan
July 12th, 2012
7:54 pm
With Huddy’s foot and back miseries, I don’t know if we see him next year (is it a club or player option?). With that, JJ (hopefully) being traded, and all the young arms poised, next year’s rotation would be a nice mix of young and rookie by July:
Hanson, Beachy, Minor, Delgado, and Medlen/Teheran/Vizcaino/Gilmartin. Who knows? Sheets might be Comeback POTY and re-sign with us at a hometown discount.
Capt.Mudd
July 12th, 2012
7:54 pm
Scranton, PA…….just about broke, financial hardship……..JoePa, a lost tarnished relic….what’s next? The Amish are leaving to pursue celebrity in LA? Poor and sad days in Pennsylvania.
ChattTownBrian
July 12th, 2012
7:54 pm
Sheeeyat … salt and pepper is all you need as your ingredients for Hh. Now if you want a kick you can throw a pinch or two of paprika spice on there.
nolie
July 12th, 2012
7:55 pm
seriously? you think I’m gonna drop it? the more you respond the more you use the same stuff you have used b4. need to work on some memory exercises.;)
brian
July 12th, 2012
7:55 pm
If the braves are worried about delgados innings adding up he could be moved to the bullpen
count_schemula
July 12th, 2012
7:55 pm
Greinke is one year older than Maddux was and has said he likes the Braves and obviously is not the type to dig NY or LA type cities.
It would be a nice thing if could happen, esp since sounds like Wren would not do it if he did not think he could sign him.
ChattTownBrian
July 12th, 2012
7:56 pm
count, what other names are you on here? Hopefully somebody interesting and way different than “count_schemula”?
nolie
July 12th, 2012
7:58 pm
its a team option with a cheap buyout MBBF
count_schemula
July 12th, 2012
7:58 pm
Anders
my other name is Anders, lol