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Ease
July 6th, 2012
11:35 am
For those wondering about Teheran’s early exit last night, there was a rain delay and he was not brought back into the game after two scoreless…
Although I am sure this has been covered already.
Lew
July 6th, 2012
11:36 am
And Span is signed pretty reasonably through 2014 with an option for 2015 and only a $500 grand buyout.
cricket
July 6th, 2012
11:36 am
sell high, get good prospects in return and sell them high when they hit prime. sounds like a plan. forget ever winning, just get high on selling high.
Nerdbucket Moylan
July 6th, 2012
11:36 am
Yeah, wren did sell javier vazquez after one season. Vazquez should have been kept but Wren tied his own $ hands by signing Drunk Lowe and KK. Or we could have dealt Vazquez for a major bat. It is Wren’s fault that Melky sucked. He didn’t check the stats on him and didn’t look to see how fat and out of shape he was. Melky one of the lowest OBP producers in the game before we acquired him.
Disgusted
July 6th, 2012
11:37 am
I am not that excited about Span when you think of what Minnesota will might demand for him.
You could do worse in CF. But for offense, you want better.
No way I want Liriano, he has not been that good since 2010. I’d rather develop my own guys than trade big for an excess baggage pitcher (arm trouble) like Liriano.
Lew
July 6th, 2012
11:39 am
Lou/Earl/Nerdbucket – You’re talking about credibility? What a freaking joke. But then again, you always were laughable.
Nerdbucket Moylan
July 6th, 2012
11:40 am
Agreed with Disgusted. Go get Headley. His stats are undervalued right now because he plays at Petco. Headley is a proven OBP producer.
Want nothing of Liriano. And it’s not like we have Leo down in the bullpen resurrecting careers a la jaret wright, darren holmes, chris hammond, etc.
Disgusted
July 6th, 2012
11:41 am
“We’ll probably end up with Jason Vargas and then at season’s end having the FO say they did everything they could to improve this club but just don’t know what went wrong.”
I’d just assume do nothing. Just keep what we have. Either way we fail. So why move kids who just might grow up big time with another team for mediocre garbage.
CrαZy
July 6th, 2012
11:41 am
Jaded Braves Fan
Clearly not a scout here, but I’ve seen Teheran many times over the past two years pitching at Gwinnett. He’s thrown less fastballs this year than he did last year not sure if it has something to do with him working on his breaking stuff or what, but the few times I’ve seen him look dominate he has used the FB more often and was able to use the breaking stuff to get strikes. I think he’s just a young pitcher still developing his game. I think people forget how young he is because he signed so young. I still think he could be a dominate top of the rotation pitcher once he figures out his game!! His dominate outings impress me more than any young pitcher I’ve seen come through Gwinnett he just needs to do it more often.
Arkansas Transplant
July 6th, 2012
11:41 am
IF, they would move Uggla in the offseason, there won’t be an issue with finance. I’d much rather use that money on a player that actually can produce a bit in every month not just 2 out of the season.
Jaded Braves Fan
July 6th, 2012
11:43 am
Thanks for the info, Crazy.
Disgusted
July 6th, 2012
11:44 am
Nerdbucket — Headley is not a bad player, just depends on what SD is asking for,
Looking at Minor as of late I am thinking twice about wanting to move him now. There are signs there of real improvement. SD is going to look for prospects and low salaried guys.
CrαZy
July 6th, 2012
11:44 am
Vazquez should have been kept
Because he was so dominate in NY?? and again in FL?? Where is he playing now again??
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 6th, 2012
11:44 am
Liriano is ‘useless’ and Francisco won’t be a good Major leaguer like you claim… I wasn’t talking about him being a Brave, but the fact that you think he’s a good player.
Lew
July 6th, 2012
11:45 am
If what you have to have is a high OBP, speedy, good defensive, high average lead off man in CF, then what needs to be done is to sign Bourn. Otherwise, you’re going to end up with a player like Span (or much worse) or wait until someone from our farm system develops into what you’re looking for.
Ease
July 6th, 2012
11:46 am
DOB’s thoughts on his own blog…
David O’Brien @ajcbraves
They strive to out-negative one-another. RT @mrbusche: @ajcbraves the comments are unreadable. Chance AJC switches to moderated comments?
David O’Brien @ajcbraves
Agreed. They didn’t used to be. So bad lately, almost entertaining. RT @rgirl661: @ajcbraves thanks David. Comments on that blog were brutal
I agree, which is why today will be my last day posting on this blog. The amount of horses that get kicked is just ridiculous…
Nerdbucket Moylan
July 6th, 2012
11:47 am
Disgusted, but you’ve got to take that gamble sometimes. Headley is proven. Minor is not proven. Perhaps you can get a Lohse or Westbrook type on the cheap that will provide similar production to Minor’s. We need to infuse high OBP into the lineup and start drafting and developing more pitching
CrαZy
July 6th, 2012
11:47 am
Vazquez should have been kept
Brian Cashman would agree!!
Lew
July 6th, 2012
11:47 am
Big differenc between being a good player and not being worthy of the hatred directed towards him and having some productive worth. Like I said – very little comprehension. You’ve never heard what I’ve been saying since the very first. Maybe because you have your brain locked into a sabremetric vision of what all players should be.
cricket
July 6th, 2012
11:48 am
i suggested Span earlier but braves are not trading Bourn if there is a chance to win this year with him
Frankie
July 6th, 2012
11:48 am
Javy basically had a career year and money was used to sign Huddy which was and is a better option. The Viz still can be impactful, that was a good trade.
CrαZy
July 6th, 2012
11:49 am
It’s easy to ignore the mouth breathers on the blog once you learn who to ignore… It’s not even that bad on here today!!
Jaded Braves Fan
July 6th, 2012
11:49 am
Here’s my probably with Headley: He doesn’t have power. True, some of that is the result of Petco, but he’s only got 27 home runs in 1160 career road at-bats.
On the other hand, he does have an .811 career road OPS compared to .667 at home. That surprised me. I figured there’d be a slight discrepancy, but not a .144-point discrepancy.
I think we need to be looking for power, but I suppose Headley would be a worthwhile addition at the right cost.
Lew
July 6th, 2012
11:49 am
Only Braves – Maybe it’s time for you to realize that consistenly posting more than everyone else and being inordinately proud of that and thinking that you know what should be the norm for all players doesn’t necessarily give you insight or confer understanding on you.
Frankie
July 6th, 2012
11:50 am
Trade Minor to get this club better right now. Hopefully he has another good 2 or 3 outings to increase his value over the next couple of weeks.
No risk, no reward.
cricket
July 6th, 2012
11:51 am
We’ll probably end up with Jason Vargas
Ben Sheets has already taken Vargas’ spot
Arkansas Transplant
July 6th, 2012
11:52 am
These are guys that shouldn’t be back next season or should be traded during the off-season.
EOF
Uggla
Bourn
and JJ is a wait and see. But the 3 mentioned above are either going to be overly priced or they are overpaid.
Arkansas Transplant
July 6th, 2012
11:52 am
Ben Sheets has already taken Vargas’ spot
You would hope, but don’t count it out.
Murph
July 6th, 2012
11:54 am
I agree, which is why today will be my last day posting on this blog. The amount of horses that get kicked is just ridiculous…
Another person taking their ball and going home?
Seriously, if the negative comments bother people so much, there’s a real simple solution… stay off the blog during the games. It really is that easy.
Don’t go back and read the in-game blog, don’t just stop by to take a glance at what people are saying, just stay away from first pitch through the final out and you’ll find your enjoyment of the blog goes up 10x at least.
The day crew around here is awesome, I hear the night crew is pretty entertaining too… if you can avoid the in-game crew then you’re golden. If you choose to extricate yourself completely, you’re missing out on some pretty good conversations.
Brian from SC
July 6th, 2012
11:54 am
Uggla will not be traded. If he’s overpriced for the Braves, he’d be overpriced for anyone else, too. I’m sure someone would be willing to take him off the Braves hands if the Braves pay a good chunk of his salary, but that would defeat the purpose, right? I don’t think the Braves would consider trading Uggla, nor do I think they should consider it.
Frankie
July 6th, 2012
11:55 am
Everybody and their brother is after Headley.
Nerdbucket Moylan
July 6th, 2012
11:56 am
jaded braves fan, i am sure you like juan francisco since he has power. this guy is a worthless POS. He is worse than alex grumpy face gonzalez! You built your lineup with high OBP producers and the runs will be scored. OBP leads to run production, it’s really that simple.
Then, you’ve got folks like yourself and Lew who are jaded by the POSP Sabermetric (yeh i made that up) also known as Power out of Stadium Potential. Or maybe you’re caught up in FRP (Fast running potential) saber metric. Who the heck cares about speed when you can’t even get on base? Yeh, the home runs are fun to watch, but a lineup of solo homer hitters only and low OBP ain’t getting you anywhere.
Arkansas Transplant
July 6th, 2012
11:56 am
Not so sure we couldn’t get a return from trading Uggla. I’d be willing to be bet we could trade him and the entire contract and still get a return back.
richbrave
July 6th, 2012
11:58 am
Brian:
“…..The Braves’ “pitching” has gotten better if you look at ERA. But the strikeouts, walks, and home runs given up don’t seem to be the cause. It’s all about more batted balls being converted to outs. And a huge amount of that credit goes to the young shortstop, who was perhaps the best defensive shortstop in baseball the moment he stepped onto the field…….”
Point well taken, and excellently enumerated. Agreed, right down to my toe-nails.
Arkansas Transplant
July 6th, 2012
11:58 am
Don’t want Headley, no power and his cost is too high both salary and what it would take to get him.
Lew
July 6th, 2012
11:58 am
Lou/Earl/Nerdbucket – Rant on you obsessive idiot.
Jaded Braves Fan
July 6th, 2012
11:59 am
Thing is with Vazquez, he’s always pitched much better in the National League. His stints with Montreal, Atlanta and Florida were very good. His struggles came with the Yankees and White Sox.
Javy’s always been one of the biggest enigmas in baseball, but he seemed to be in a great comfort zone with the Braves. I’d take him as my No. 5 starter today in a heartbeat. He can eat a lot of innings, which the Braves sorely need.
Hillbilly
July 6th, 2012
12:02 pm
Murph, at 11:54. Yes. This.
Ease
July 6th, 2012
12:03 pm
Another person taking their ball and going home?
Yeah Murph, exactly.
Arkansas Transplant
July 6th, 2012
12:04 pm
IF you were going to look to trade for Headley you might as well just trade for Delmon Young instead.. you’d get about the same production at the plate but with more power but also more chance of a higher return.
Arkansas Transplant
July 6th, 2012
12:04 pm
IF you were going to look to trade for Headley you might as well just trade for Delmon Young instead.. you’d get about the same production at the plate but with more power but also more chance of a higher return.
Arkansas Transplant
July 6th, 2012
12:05 pm
what happen there.. seeing double.
Jaded Braves Fan
July 6th, 2012
12:06 pm
“jaded braves fan, i am sure you like juan francisco since he has power. this guy is a worthless POS. He is worse than alex grumpy face gonzalez! You built your lineup with high OBP producers and the runs will be scored. OBP leads to run production, it’s really that simple.
Then, you’ve got folks like yourself and Lew who are jaded by the POSP Sabermetric (yeh i made that up) also known as Power out of Stadium Potential. Or maybe you’re caught up in FRP (Fast running potential) saber metric. Who the heck cares about speed when you can’t even get on base? Yeh, the home runs are fun to watch, but a lineup of solo homer hitters only and low OBP ain’t getting you anywhere.”
I’m not exactly sure what you’re going on about. Power and OBP don’t have to be mutually exclusive. Just because I think we need more pop in the lineup doesn’t mean I want a bunch of free-swining hacks. I cited Headley’s road OPS (of which OBP is 50% of the equation) as a reason why he might be a worthwhile pickup. It’s just that in a perfect world I would prefer a guy who can hit for a little bit more power.
I hated Alex Gonzalez. Not much of a fan of Francisco either.
Murph
July 6th, 2012
12:08 pm
Yeah Murph, exactly.
Well, do what you gotta do then. I hate to see any of the day crew leave, but if you can’t separate the loonies who post in-game from the rest of us, then I guess it’s time to unhitch the horses and start moseying.
Safe travels, and watch out for the savages on whatever yonder blog you decide to put up camp. They’re everywhere on this here internets.
Brian from SC
July 6th, 2012
12:08 pm
*Warning: the following post has WAR in it. You have been warned.*
Rookie leaders in Fangraphs’ Wins Above Replacement:
1. Mike Trout, 4.7
2. Yu Darvish, 2.2
3. Wade Miley, 2.0
4. Lance Lynn, 1.9
5. Bryce Harper, 1.7
Michael Fiers, 1.7
7. Andrelton Simmons, 1.6
8. Zack Cosart, 1.5
Jose Quintana, 1.5
Jarrod Parker, 1.5
11. Wei-Yin Chen, 1.4
Baseball-reference’s WAR:
1. Trout, 4.5
2. Parker, 2.6
Quintana, 2.6
3. Darvish, 2.4
4. Simmons, 2.3
5. Miley, 2.2
6. Chen, 1.9
7. Lynn, 1.8
Scott Diamond, 1.8
9. Harper, 1.7
Fiers, 1.7
Robbie Ross, 1.7
Ryan Cook, 1.7
Fish Bisch
July 6th, 2012
12:08 pm
Chipper Jones better be playing tonight. I want to see him be the all time RBI leader for a 3rd baseman.
raleighbravefan
July 6th, 2012
12:10 pm
Nerd(or something else) Bucket – It’s obvious to everyone here that either you 1) Don’t know shydt about baseball, or 2) You are all about stirring up shydt, 0r 3) BOTH.
I’m sure you will respond with some inane name calling, but I really don’t care, since you have ZERO CREDIBILITY, and your opinion has no value.
BTW, if anyone sees Doofus wandering around during the daytime, let him know that Goober and Gomer were not brothers…they were cousins!
Fish Bisch
July 6th, 2012
12:11 pm
“I’m Out!” posts are funny. I think the goal is for people to pity you.
Shaun
July 6th, 2012
12:11 pm
Arkansas Transplant, Headley is making $3.475M this season and is 1st-year arb eligible after the season. So I don’t think his salary would be much of an issue. I suspect it wouldn’t take Teheran to get him, although it probably would take an impressive package of players.
I think his on-base skills are so good and his power is good enough to be extremely valuable. Let’s remember he’s playing home games in Petco. Check out his career road numbers: .299/.366/.445
The only issue would be getting him enough playing time with Chipper and Prado already manning third and left. I may be worth it, depending on what the Braves would have to give up, because he’s locked up through 2014 and could step right in as the Braves’ thirdbaseman next year.
Overhead At The Cooler
July 6th, 2012
12:13 pm
“DOB’s thoughts on his own blog…
David O’Brien @ajcbraves
They strive to out-negative one-another. RT @mrbusche: @ajcbraves the comments are unreadable. Chance AJC switches to moderated comments?
David O’Brien @ajcbraves
Agreed. They didn’t used to be. So bad lately, almost entertaining. RT @rgirl661: @ajcbraves thanks David. Comments on that blog were brutal
I agree, which is why today will be my last day posting on this blog. The amount of horses that get kicked is just ridiculous…”
To think that in this day of say and do anything especially on the internet….. that someone is amazed, confused, stunned or offended by people criticizing teams, players, management or whatever is a bit naive! Actually I am amazed, confused, stunned/offended that someone can still be amazed, confused, stunned or offended by things posted on a baseball blog as long as the ideas don’t threaten anyone’s life, make racist of homophobic rants, or in the case of this blog, talk politics in general. BTW…. want to hear outrageous accusations, lies and damn lies? Turn on the TV and watch the news shows cover the politicians and political parties in this country!
“B.Mac stinks, Fire Fredi, Chipper is too old and should retire today” and any other rant you might see on this blog is pretty tame. Actually, if you are offended, maybe you should just refrain from using the blog, It seems to be weighing on your fragile psyche.
It’s not the first time I’ve seen someone suggest they “moderate” or shutdown the blog when the “pennant waving socializers” don’t agree with what is being said. That concept
is especially odd considering the blog is pretty much the property of a news organization who is supposed to be all about free speech and reporting. I understand banning someone who is abusive and policing that behavior, but to suggest the nuclear option because some people are being mean to Mac, Chipper, Fredi, or “fill in the blank” is downright nutty!
To quote what I saw on another site one time, “arguing on the internet is like being in the special Olympics. Even if you win, you’re still retarded.”
UKUGA
July 6th, 2012
12:13 pm
The deterioration in the blog comments is a reflection of the deterioration of our society.
Go Braves!
ACE
July 6th, 2012
12:13 pm
no one should worry about DOB losing his job over asking questions that are too tough. Too many softball questions that’s another story.
Arkansas Transplant
July 6th, 2012
12:15 pm
Shaun, the only reason his OBP might look good to you is.. he’s only played in 113 games last season and 83 this one.. sample size.
He’s only had 2 season’s in which he played more than 115 games.. and those stats those season’s aren’t very impressive.
I’d still take Young over Headley.
Arkansas Transplant
July 6th, 2012
12:16 pm
And before eveyone freaks out… I’m in no way, shape or form saying that we’re going to trade for Young or that Young is going to be available.
bostonbravo
July 6th, 2012
12:17 pm
Headline:
July 5 came & went…
DAMN SMuggla still can’t hit!
Nerdbucket Moylan
July 6th, 2012
12:18 pm
Jaded, my point is that you first build your team based on high OBP producing players. If you’re getting on base you’re not making outs. This leads to run production. Many high OBP players also have power which definitely can help lead to even more runs produced. But you’ve got to first build a lineup of high OBP guys. Don’t have to be concerned too much about power when you’ve got a lineup of guys not making outs. Certainly one or two of your high OBP producers will have power.
Shaun
July 6th, 2012
12:18 pm
IF you were going to look to trade for Headley you might as well just trade for Delmon Young instead
Headley for his career: .269/.347/.396, 108 OPS+
Young: .286/.319/.424, 99 OPS+
Also, while Headley is not a great defensive player, he’s adequate. Young is one of the worst defensive players in the game.
Headley is a thirdbaseman who is a solid hitter while Young is a corner-outfielder who is a mediocre hitter, at best.
Jaded Braves Fan
July 6th, 2012
12:20 pm
To expand a little bit more on my last post, let’s remember that the Braves ranked 3rd in MLB in OBP in 2010 but just 13th in runs scored. That’s because they didn’t hit for much power (.401 team slugging percentage). It’s overly simplistic to suggest that OBP is everything. Getting on base is nice, but getting on base while being able to hit the ball over the center fielder’s head is nicer still.
That’s why I love OPS – it combines a hitter’s on-base skills with his slugging ability to give you a fairly complete profile.
Shaun
July 6th, 2012
12:20 pm
Headley has a .347 OBP in 2470 career PA.
Young has a .319 OBP in 3271 career PA.
…sample size
Arkansas Transplant
July 6th, 2012
12:24 pm
Shaun, your not going to change my mind… sorry but your not.
I was looking at clutch anyways.
Shaun
July 6th, 2012
12:25 pm
Jaded Braves Fan, another way to look at it is the Braves were an above-average offense in 2010 in spite of being a below-average slugging team, because they were so good at getting on base. But I’m with you that on-base isn’t everything, and no one claims it is.
OPS is nice. wOBA and wRC+ are even better because they actually take in to account run values of all types of hits and walks. So whereas SLG assumes a double is twice as valuable as a single, wOBA and wRC+ actually takes into account the actual run value of a single, of a double, of a triple, etc.
Murph
July 6th, 2012
12:26 pm
Shaun, you always post a lot of stats as follow up to other people’s trade proposals, but never many yourself.
I’m curious… what would you do to set the Braves up for a run in 2012? What about 2013?
No, I’m not being snarky. I’m actually interested in your opinion.
CrαZy
July 6th, 2012
12:29 pm
simple solution… stay off the blog during the games.
My #1 rule
JoeFan
July 6th, 2012
12:29 pm
Don’t know what the Braves can get for Uggla but even Francisco is more consistent with making contact than Uggla. The only consistency with Uggla is that he reverts to a hitless blackhole for several prolong periods every season. The Braves need multiple pieces and maybe trading Uggla and Bourn will be a start in the right direction.
CrαZy
July 6th, 2012
12:30 pm
No, I’m not being snarky.I’m actually interested in your opinion.
Frankie
July 6th, 2012
12:30 pm
“Shaun, you always post a lot of stats as follow up to other people’s trade proposals, but never many yourself.”
Oh man, he’s not alone. Some here don’t like to poke their neck out but pretty quick to drill somebody who does. Pretty funny.
richbrave
July 6th, 2012
12:32 pm
DOWN ON THE FARM
LYNCHBURG
27 hit slug-fest won by the HILLCATS 10-9 last night.
3B ED SALCEDO [.265 BA] busts a move yesterday going 3-3 with a double [16], a walk and a stolen base [16] in four. More of this kind of game Mr.SALCEDO. Your presence is anticipated with great expectation in ATLANTA by everyone except Mr. JUAN FRANCISCO.
BUT, on the negative side of things SALCEDO’s glove betrays him once again as he commits his 23rd error, most like this one……fielding. The guy’s a shlep with the leather. Sigh!
1B CHRIS GARCIA [.301 BA] 1 2B [17], 3 RBI [39].
The former ANGEL is standing tall and looking good at the plate, and has been recognized for his excellence by being selected to the 2012 Carolina League ALL-STAR team.
SS NICK AHMED [.265 BA] 2-5, 2 2B [24], 1 RBI [34]
RF DAVID ROHM [.235 BA], C BRAEDEN SCHLEHUBER [.283 BA], and LF/1B MATT WEAVER [.238 BA] have a hit apiece while ROHM and WEAVER drive in one RBI each. SCHLEHUBER drives in two [29] with his base knock.
DH ADAM MILLIGAN [.239 BA] 1-4, 1 2B [9], 3 SO. HAT TRICK!
The starting and relief pitching is not worth the time to type., but closer RHRP JUAN JAIME [SV 17, 2.91 ERA] goes the last 1.1 innings, and allows only one base-runner on a walk while striking out four.
Murph
July 6th, 2012
12:35 pm
I’ve come to appreciate what Shaun brings to the blog… I don’t often care for his delivery, but I do see what he’s trying to say… usually.
I’m not trying to set him up so we can all jump on his case about wanting this player or that player, just curious about what he sees as being the way to go for the Braves this season and next.
Murph
July 6th, 2012
12:36 pm
on the negative side of things SALCEDO’s glove betrays him once again as he commits his 23rd error
Can the guy not catch, not throw, or some combination of both? That seems crazy-high for this being the mid-point of the season.
Fish Bisch
July 6th, 2012
12:37 pm
What I think with set the braves up next year:
Sign Cole Hames
Sign Borne
Sign a right handed power batting left fielder
Prado at 3rd
Pastornicky will be our super utility after Hinske leaves
Hillbilly
July 6th, 2012
12:38 pm
simple solution… stay off the blog during the games. -Murph
My #1 rule – CraZy
Another good rule of thumb is this: Don’t read the comments on the side-blogs…ever. Insanity runs abound there. Stick with the main focal blog if you want to read comments.
Arkansas Transplant
July 6th, 2012
12:39 pm
I’m not expecting much
Shaun
July 6th, 2012
12:40 pm
I would go after Headley but probably not at the expense of Teheran. I would be willing to trade Teheran and some lesser prospects (not Delgado or of the top 2-3 prospects in addition to Teheran) for Greinke, if the commissioner would grant the Braves a time frame to try to negotiate an extension. But, again, I don’t know if there is precedent for that in an in-season trade. I can’t remember one like that.
Those are my views on the fairly big names. I’m sure there are about a million lesser trades that are very possible. This is why I don’t like speculating on specific trades teams will make. There are just so many factors and so many that could conceivably work if certain conditions are met here and there, it’s impossible to evaluate until they happen.
Jersey Gil
July 6th, 2012
12:43 pm
Phillis welcome the Braves in downtown shoot out in the OK Coral this morning….DOB stay away from downtown….a guy with not reason (he was mad of Papelbon blown save last night) start shooting the Police in from of City hall.
.http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/070612_police_shutdown_near_city_hall.html?cmpid=124488459
TennesseePaul
July 6th, 2012
12:44 pm
Can the guy not catch, not throw, or some combination of both?
The guy can’t seem to do anything. There was buzz surrounding his signing but I haven’t been impressed so far.
Murph
July 6th, 2012
12:44 pm
Another good rule of thumb is this: Don’t read the comments on the side-blogs…ever.
The side blogs are like some sort of blog terrorist training camp. Those who don’t blow themselves up get unleashed as suicide bombers on the main blog, although they rarely make it past the constantine wire that is nolie and scoots.
Shaun
July 6th, 2012
12:45 pm
Oh man, he’s not alone. Some here don’t like to poke their neck out but pretty quick to drill somebody who does. Pretty funny.
What’s the point of poking your neck out and speculating on trades that haven’t happened and might never happen?
I’m certainly going to “drill” someone who thinks Delmon Young is a better baseball player than Chase Headley.
Brian from SC
July 6th, 2012
12:45 pm
Speaking of Delmon Young, Jayson Stark just named him the LVP (least valuable player) of the first half in the American League.
TennesseePaul
July 6th, 2012
12:47 pm
simple solution… stay off the blog during the games.
Way back in the day there were some real nuts on here. I don’t know if the new nuts are nuttier or not. After nearly a decade on this thing I’ve grown real accustomed to skipping over the bulk of the crap and going straight for the quality.
Murph
July 6th, 2012
12:48 pm
Headley comes with 2.5 years of control, right? Would Minor plus a few minor-league guys get that deal done, or are they going to ask for top o’ the line guys?
George Stein
July 6th, 2012
12:48 pm
The National League is terrible right now. I see no reason to trade for anyone. Even Greinke is likely only worth two wins (at the high end) over the last two months of the season. His value is further diminished by the lack of a top draft pick (or two) as compensation for not signing him.
There really isn’t any reason this team can’t get to the playoffs. Once there, it’s totally random. I don’t think we should trade anyone, and certainly not the most valuable commodity in the game.
Arkansas Transplant
July 6th, 2012
12:50 pm
Delmon Young is a better baseball player than Chase Headley.
funny thing is… that’s exactly what he’s been at different points of his career. Funny how things like that change.. not to mention, isn’t he coming into his prime and Headley is heading out?
richbrave
July 6th, 2012
12:50 pm
DOWN ON THE FARM
Way=y-y down on the farm
Yesterday someone was wondering how DOMINICAN left-hander LUIS MEREJO was faring in the GULF COAST. As his stat-line had favorably caught my eye, I thought I put up his current stats.
4 G, 3 GS, 0-1 record, 20.0 IP, 15 H, 5 ER, 0 HR, 1 BB, 25 SO, 0.48 GO/AO, .200 AvAg., 2.25 ERA, 0.80 WHIP, 6.8 H/9, 0.4 BB/9, 11.2 SO/9, 25.00 SO/BB
Pretty good professional start to his career I’d say. Let’s see if we have a new front-line pitcher, or another ‘Wild-thang’ PEREZ. I’ll bet on the former. Any takers?
Brian from SC
July 6th, 2012
12:51 pm
It’s amazing that the Rangers have the best run differential in baseball (+80), and that includes 19-2, 21-8, and 12-1 losses.
If you take out their five worst losses, they’re outscoring opponents 417 to 280.
Arkansas Transplant
July 6th, 2012
12:51 pm
Brian from SC, that would sure lessen the asking price I would think.
Brian from SC
July 6th, 2012
12:52 pm
Delmon Young is 1 year and 4 months younger than Headley.
Shaun
July 6th, 2012
12:53 pm
I view Salcedo a lot like I view Bethancourt (though of course they are very different kinds of players). Salcedo is still extremely young. We know he has tools from scouting reports. But it will be at least another couple of years before we know if he’ll amount to anything. At this point, I wouldn’t read too much in to the errors. I’m not saying they don’t matter at all but there are good major leaguers who made lots of errors in the minors.
jeffrey d
July 6th, 2012
12:53 pm
no one should worry about DOB losing his job over asking questions that are too tough. Too many softball questions that’s another story. ACE
No one said anything about that. You’re just trying to Ease in the same thing you’ve been saying every day for awhile now.
jeffrey d
July 6th, 2012
12:53 pm
And if Ease leaves, I leave.
Brian from SC
July 6th, 2012
12:54 pm
isn’t he coming into his prime and Headley is heading out?
Considering Young followed up a career-best 2010 with a horrible year and a half, and Headley is currently setting career highs in everything, it may be the other way around.
Mark
July 6th, 2012
12:54 pm
Can’t trade Uggla because he sucks too bad for the amount of money he makes which means nobody will take him.
We could trade him IF we pay a huge chunk of his salary to the club we trade him to and he doesn’t suck so bad that we need to do that.
So, our only real option is to ride out his sorry play and hope he has one of his hot streaks which will last a month or so and then we’ll be right back where we are now.
In that case, the long term plan needs to be – Hope he gets hot, has a good hot streak and unload him at that point to a desperate contender.
P Rose
July 6th, 2012
12:54 pm
I have no problem with Uggla. He’s slumping but he plays hard all the time and has shown he can turn a slump around. And you’ve got to love Bourn, Heyward, Prado, Freeman and Simmons. Even Big Mac goes out there and busts his butt all the time, even when he’s struggling, and he keeps a positive attitude.
My problem is with Chipper. He’s still a great hitter, but he should play more often and keep his big mouth shut. The other day he said to a reporter in the clubhouse that the other players should play hard all the time like he does. What a hypocrite. He sits out hot days and jaws with the manager on the bench. It’s clear who’s running this team from the dugout.
Chipper, let Fredi manage, and get your @$$ out there on the field every day, and just shut up.
Efrim
July 6th, 2012
12:54 pm
The guy can’t seem to do anything. There was buzz surrounding his signing but I haven’t been impressed so far.
He’s been terrible on all fronts. He turns 21 later this month, so he’s still young, but he has to start to put up some 800+ OPS months.
Salcedo and Carlos Perez are usually the two guys you look at when you hear Keith Law say “the Braves haven’t had as much luck on the International front lately”. Some would even lump Bethancourt in there, due to his awful work with the stick to date.
Murph
July 6th, 2012
12:56 pm
You’re just trying to Ease in the same thing you’ve been saying every day for awhile now.
Stop talking about him! Just when I stop crying somebody brings up his name again and it’s like… oh great, here I go again!
richbrave
July 6th, 2012
12:56 pm
Apparantly, ED’s on a crusade to make CAROLINA League history by establishing the all-time high for errors in a year. I’m sure he’s already blown away records for games, weeks, and months of a season.
Frankie
July 6th, 2012
12:57 pm
July 6th, 2012
12:45 pm
Oh man, he’s not alone. Some here don’t like to poke their neck out but pretty quick to drill somebody who does. Pretty funny.
“What’s the point of poking your neck out and speculating on trades that haven’t happened and might never happen?
I’m certainly going to “drill” someone who thinks Delmon Young is a better baseball player than Chase Headley.”
It’s a blog man, don’t take it too serious or yourself for that matter. You more than anyone should adhere to that.
Go out tonight, getting sh-tfaced and get laid. Steve Carrell did it, you can pal.
Efrim
July 6th, 2012
12:57 pm
Peter Moylan gets bombed in his 1 inning of work so far in the GCL: 3 hits, 4 ER, 1 BB, 1 K, 1 HR.
George
July 6th, 2012
12:58 pm
HI all
Good win last night. MINOR finnally had a good game, hope BRIAN can keep on hitting, On to the PHILLS on the road, a sweep would be nice and possable on the road.
Frankie
July 6th, 2012
12:58 pm
If Jeffrey D skates, I’m out baby.
MikeInFl
July 6th, 2012
12:59 pm
I’m in favor of going after Headley. Just think it would create such a solid defense, both in the OF and IF, and he’s a good hitter.
Anyway, on the payroll considerations… I think the target for next year is probably closer to $95 mil than $85 mil, isn’t it? Our payroll this year is (around) $83 mil but we’re paying $10 mil on Lowe.
I do think Wren has the flexibility to sign at least a couple relatively big-time players if that’s the route he wants to go.
I really expect some pretty major deals either by the deadline or in the offseason. We’ve got a core of good talent in or just entering their primes and I think there will be a big push to provide what’s needed to take advantage of it.
Just my (rosy) view…