(Staff writer Carroll Rogers is filling in for David O’Brien today.)
Well, happy Tuesday, folks. And what I really mean is happy any day that’s not Monday, right? The Braves, now 0-11 on Mondays, will try to rebound tonight against Chris Volstad, whom the Cubs called up to pitch tonight in place of Ryan Dempster (DL with a strained lat muscle).
The Braves know Volstad well from his days with the Marlins. He is 2-4 with a 4.22 ERA in nine starts against the Braves. Volstad last faced them on Sept. 12, when he allowed two runs in five innings of a game the Marlins won 5-4 in 12 innings.
Volstad went winless in eight starts with the Cubs to start the season, going 0-6 with a 7.46 ERA. He wasn’t a whole lot better in the minors, going 2-3 with a 4.44 ERA in Triple-A Iowa.
Jair Jurrjens knows a little bit about that, trying to show his major league club he’s back on track. He’s allowed three earned runs in 13 1/3 innings in two starts since his return from Triple-A Gwinnett. He dominated in his first start back against Boston and was solid in his last start against Arizona. The Braves could use a quality start and a win tonight against a team the Braves should have the upper hand on.
Eye on Greinke
It seems there will be a little bit more of a waiting game to see if the Braves are able to pull off a trade for Brewers ace Zack Greinke, given that the Brewers haven’t yet decided – at least publicly – they’re in selling mode just yet. The Brewers have three straight series against NL Central opponents coming out of the All-Star break and by then they should have a pretty good idea.
The Braves have one of their top scouts in Milwaukee last night to watch Greinke pitch against the Marlins. He gave up five runs in six innings but took a no-decision to remain unbeaten in 22 starts at Miller Park with the Brewers.
By all accounts, it sounds as though the Braves are prepared to spend the kind of money it would take to sign Grienke long-term, not just as a short-term rental. Whether or not they’d go all in at close to $20 million annually remains to be seen or if they can get him for somewhere closer to $15 million.
But the Braves are not the only team vying for his services. The Rangers are in the hunt as well, so it could come down to who has the best return to offer. At this point, it seems the Braves would be prepared to part with one of their previously untouchable three arms – Mike Minor, Randall Degado and Julio Teheran (Arodys Vizcaino is recovering from Tommy John and not an option now) – because while all three still have high upside, the Braves are in need of a proven veteran arm. So perhaps one of those pitchers and a position-player prospect would entice the Brewers.
Greinke makes his home in Orlando, which is where the Braves train, so that figures to help the Braves cause. And Braves GM Frank Wren has had recent dealings with Greinke’s agent Casey Close because he also represents Ben Sheets, whom the Braves just signed to a minor league deal.
The Braves figure to keep exploring all their options, including those that are more affordable financially like Francisco Liriano, Dempster and Matt Garza.
Final Vote
Major League Baseball released a tally of the “First Vote” standings this morning and Chipper Jones was first in the NL vote, followed by Cardinals third baseman David Freese, Nats outfielder Bryce Harper, D-backs second baseman Aaron Hill and Michael Bourn.
Harper surrendered some of the vote, I’m sure, when he said he himself would vote for Chipper. And Freese has the full weight of the active Cardinal fanbase behind him, so perhaps because of that, he’s the real challenge. Major League Baseball did not releases hard figures but said Jones had only a slim lead, and that nine of the 10 players in both the NL and AL considered had garnered one million votes.
You’ve got until Thursday at 4 p.m. to cast ballots at www.mlb.com/vote.
Simmons on rookie of month
I got a chance to talk to Andrelton Simmons after the game last night, and in case you missed the updated version of that story, about what the thought about winning rookie of the month for June, his very first month in the big leagues. He said it was “pretty special,” and called it a “big accomplishment.”
He led all rookies with a .330 batting average and a .365 on-base percentage, and his .522 slugging percentage was second-highest. I was reminded of his first day in the majors when he faced Stephen Strasburg, and didn’t act intimidated at all. Went 0-for-3 on the day (0-for-2) but hit one of the hardest hit balls off Strasburg that day into a double play
“I learned from the first day, I’ve got to be aggressive,” Simmons said. “Don’t be afraid of the pitchers. If you get your pitch to hit early in the count, go ahead, especially in the No. 8 hole. I’ve been seeing the ball really well. I’m working with the coaches a lot in the cages, stuff I feel I need to work on to get better, and it’s been paying off.”
‘82 celebration
Oh the power of Twitter. Apparently reacting to requests from Braves fans, asking Dale Murphy if the Braves are doing anything to commemorate the 30th anniversary of the 1982 team, the Braves Hall-of-Famer decided to organize one.
So for a lucky 50 fans, Murphy is hosting a 30th anniversary celebration for the 1982 Braves team with a day of festivities before the Braves-Mets game on Sept. 29 at Turner Field, Chipper Jones’ second-to-last home game at Turner Field.
Tickets include a luncheon at the CNN Center Omni Hotel with Murphy, Phil Niekro, Bob Horner, Gene Garber, Bruce Benedict and Pete Van Wieren, valet parking at CNN and a bus ride to the site of Atlanta-Fulton County stadium, a VIP tour of Turner Field and the Braves Hall of Fame guided by Murphy, on-field access for batting practice, and a suite at the game with the 1982 players, along with various signed paraphernalia. The cost is $1,500 and only 50 spots are available. For more information, go to www.82babybluefest.com.
Gwinnett streak
After losing 15 in a row, the Gwinnett Braves have started a streak the other way, and in pretty exciting fashion. They won last night on a walk-off in the 12th inning after Tyler Pastornicky drove in Luis Durango from third base on a fielder’s choice. Newcomer D.J. Carrasco pitched a scoreless 12th inning for his first win with Gwinnett. This is after they snapped their losing streak on Sunday when Felix Pie hit a walk-off single to score Pastornicky in the ninth inning of a 6-5 win vs. Charlotte.
By the way, Pastornicky it hitting .273 in 32 games since he was demoted to Triple-A, with 14 doubles and 17 RBIs. He’s played five games at second base and the rest at his usual shortstop. So nothing yet in the outfield.
Braves lineup:
1. Michael Bourn CF
2. Martin Prado LF
3. Jason Heyward RF
4. Chipper Jones 3B
5. Freddie Freeman 1B
6. Dan Uggla 2B
7. Brian McCann C
8. Andrelton Simmons SS
9. Jair Jurrjens P
1,723 comments Add your comment
One Big Dummy
July 3rd, 2012
2:46 pm
No to Greinke! We need to SELL, not BUY!
FIRST
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
2:47 pm
2nd…. We need to buy, not sell…. Maybe Greinke is the answer, maybe not. We will see.
Trader Jack
July 3rd, 2012
2:50 pm
If Grienke is worth $20 mil, why would he settle for $13-15? Like everything else, he too has an expiration date, and you get what you can,
Duke
July 3rd, 2012
2:50 pm
Pastornicky with 14 bombs so far in 32 games!!?? Typo for sure…
Duke
July 3rd, 2012
2:51 pm
One Big Dummy,
Perfect name for you it seems…
Jeff R
July 3rd, 2012
2:52 pm
To continue from the last blog:
Has anyone confirmed that $20 million per is Greinke’s asking price?
This. He doesn’t want a big-market team, and is said to like the Braves… who says he won’t take less, like 13-15 mil?
This is a good point. $20 million per are big market dollars. I’ve read and heard all along that Greinke has no intention of going to NYC, L.A., or Philly (if the Phils were inclined to spend).
If Greinke wants a midsize market, he’d have to have fairly realistic expectations for a contract, no?
Calvin
July 3rd, 2012
2:52 pm
I’m guessing you mean 4 hrs and 17 RBI since Pastor’s demotion?
One Big Dummy
July 3rd, 2012
2:53 pm
Right, because bringing Greinke here or whomever else you can think of is going to change the CULTURE. Gimme a break!
Braveone
July 3rd, 2012
2:53 pm
From the previous blog which had 2,009 comments, Efrim led the way with 81 posts. There were 221 different poster names. Here are the Top 25:
Rank Poster Frequency
1 Efrim 81
2 ChattTownBrian 72
3 Tomahawkin 68
4 Bat Masterson 62
5 NickB 60
6 TheOnlyBravesFan 58
7 jeffrey d 58
8 Jeff R 57
9 nolie 53
10 Arkansas Transplant 49
11 ncscoots 35
12 Ease 34
13 Shaun 34
14 Tomahawk Mafia 33
15 ncbravesfan90 33
16 richbrave 32
17 brian 31
18 phil 30
19 IlliniBrave 29
20 Capt.Mudd 27
21 Jimmy 27
22 TennesseePaul 27
23 Brava 25
24 Lew 25
25 David O’Brien 23
Jekyll and Hyde
July 3rd, 2012
2:54 pm
Perhaps the posts that make your head spin around like Linda Blair in the Exorcist, are the ones where people post their imaginary lineups that would be winners, and fill them with people who are already wearing Braves uniforms and not producing! lol
Jimmy
July 3rd, 2012
2:54 pm
Must be typo. 14 HR and 17 RBI’s.
Murph
July 3rd, 2012
2:54 pm
Neither buy nor sell… wait it out and look forward to NEXT YEAR.
Duke
July 3rd, 2012
2:57 pm
Jeff R,
I agree. If Greinke wants to be in a small market then he must know that he will have to take less dollars. He must be fine with that. I don’t see any reason why we couldn’t sign him for $15 Mil a year. Seems very realistic.
onebravosfan
July 3rd, 2012
2:58 pm
I’m not a big fan of buying either…Especially giving up one of our prospect arms for a half year rental. Our team is so up and down, some days we do not need any help and other days the whole team looks pathetic so one pitcher won’t help. Besides some minor improvement like a right handed bench bat or a relief pitcher, we should stay put. The Rangers can be the ones selling the farm for once…
Duke
July 3rd, 2012
2:59 pm
One Big Dummy,
Maybe because you said we should sell. We are 5 games out of first my man…
Fish Bisch
July 3rd, 2012
2:59 pm
Demote Androtron and Promote Pastornicky! 14 bombs in 32 games!!!!
Jeff R
July 3rd, 2012
2:59 pm
Duke, I don’t think Greinke or his agent live on Mars and don’t get mid-market economics. Unless Greinke has a change of heart and opts for the dollars that a big market team can pony up.
ncbravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
3:00 pm
Here’s exactly what will happen if we bring Greinke over.
He will win some games BUT …
He will have games that he will lose because of lack of run support (sound familiar?)
He will have games that he will lose because the bullpen blows his leads (sound familiar?)
He will have games that he will lose because his manager leaves him in too long or takes him out too soon (sound familiar?)
He is a difference maker on a team where a difference can be made. That’s not here. Not this year.
Duke
July 3rd, 2012
3:00 pm
I would give the Brewers Minor and a lower level prospect for Grienke. That is an easy decision.
Hillbilly
July 3rd, 2012
3:01 pm
either buy nor sell… wait it out and look forward to NEXT YEAR.
Chipper will be ecstatic to hear that at the end of the season as he shakes Frank’s numb, lifeless hand that has an impression of his back pocket mashed into it from being sat on for all of these years.
keylargo
July 3rd, 2012
3:02 pm
132 10 36 14 0 0
Thats AB, Runs, HIts, 2B, 3B, HR
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
3:02 pm
14 HR and 17 RBI for Rev…. talk about useless solo shots.
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
3:02 pm
Check this out everyone:
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/07/zack-greinke-rumors-tuesday.html
apparently, Greinke wants to play for the Braves more than any other team….. It’s really looking like we get him,IMO
Duke
July 3rd, 2012
3:02 pm
Jeff R, which he won’t do. He has stated numerous times his ideal landing spots. Atlanta would fit that. No reason to not offer up Minor and a lower level for the guy. Sign him to an extension for $15 and call it a day.
Jeff R
July 3rd, 2012
3:03 pm
Perhaps the posts that make your head spin around like Linda Blair in the Exorcist, are the ones where people post their imaginary lineups that would be winners, and fill them with people who are already wearing Braves uniforms and not producing! lol
Actually, I just keep hitting the “Submit Comment” button and post a lot of “Enter your comment here” lines. That nice scientist used to give me bananas for doing that.
Trader Jack
July 3rd, 2012
3:03 pm
The Atlanta metro area is larger than both Boston and the San Fran/Oakland markets (which supports two teams). Over time Atlanta has grown into a large market.
Woody Woodward
July 3rd, 2012
3:04 pm
Sad to read about the passing of Andy Griffith. He was a great talent. Face in the Crowd was a fantastic movie.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
3:05 pm
14 doubles for Rev, not HR…. this is Carroll and not DOB, so maybe she’ll fix the typo
NickB: Looks that way. He seems to be the guy the Braves want, let’s see if the Brewers will let it happen. At the very least, I would think that the Braves might try to offer him a contract in the offseason (unless Milwaukee keeps him and offers arbitration)
Jeff R
July 3rd, 2012
3:05 pm
He [Greinke] is a difference maker on a team where a difference can be made. That’s not here. Not this year.
IF the Braves could lock up Greinke longer term, does that make a difference in your thinking, ncbravesfan?
Lee Maye
July 3rd, 2012
3:06 pm
I would go for trading Minor, but not Teheran or Delgado. Too much and even 15 mil is too much for Greinke. Especially if McCann and Uggla are kept at 24 mil per year.
Better idea: get Liriano and trade Uggla and McCann over the winter. That would free up about 64 mil for next year. Play Prado at 2B and use Ross, Gattis, and Bethancourt at C. Gattis in LF and Terdo as a switchhitting utility at 3B, 1B, and LF. Then, go out and resign Bourn and get a power hitting righthanded hitting OF.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
3:09 pm
Lee Maye: You lost all credibility when you said trade Uggla and McCann. Your ideas at catcher suck, btw. Liriano is trash, not a a great option unless he’s your 5. He can be good at times, but is kinda wild more often than not.
Venice Jim
July 3rd, 2012
3:09 pm
Atlanta Braves @Braves
Tonight’s lineup vs. CHI (7:10, SPSO/680AM/BRN): Bourn 8 Prado 7 Heyward 9 Jones 5 Freeman 3 Uggla 4 McCann 2 Simmons 6 Jurrjens 1
Murph
July 3rd, 2012
3:09 pm
Chipper will be ecstatic to hear that at the end of the season
I like Chipper, don’t get me wrong, but nothing should be done that leverages the team’s future just based on this being Chipper’s last season.
I don’t know if the team could make the postseason even if it were able to acquire Greinke and Sabathia, so is it really worth the prospects to try?
I sound like such a pout-pout fish today, but that’s the way I feel. I don’t think this is the team to go all-in on.
Len Barker
July 3rd, 2012
3:10 pm
We need the same thing we’ve needed for years now- a right handed power hitter- not Greinke. If he comes here, he’ll be a rent a player and leave for bigger $ next year. Our pitching is not good, but our inconsistent hitting (consistently poor against lefties) is a bigger problem. Try to package McCann with one of the 3- Minor, Delgado, or Tehran and get something to help this woeful offense! Can we beat the mighty Volsted tonight?
Steve From Dalton
July 3rd, 2012
3:10 pm
Francisco Liriano looks like a good pick up. Not a guy that you want pitching out of the pen but a cheap lefty for the rotation.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
3:10 pm
Move Simmons up, IMO. But that’s just nitpicking. Like this lineup (for now)
keylargo
July 3rd, 2012
3:10 pm
Andy Griffith – Will Stockdale US Air Force!
Jeff R
July 3rd, 2012
3:10 pm
I’m not sure Greinke sees Atlanta as larger. Atlanta certainly doesn’t have the media intensity of the big markets. It may just be a comfort factor for Greinke, having grown up in Orlando a Braves fan. And I’m sure he made more than a trip or two to Atlanta growing up (or passed through on trips).
But, who knows? Greinke is supposed to suffer social anxiety, hence, the smaller market focus. If he wants a lot less than L.A., let’s say, he’ll have to accept a smaller contract, whether that’s Atlanta, Cincy, Pittsburgh or comparable cities.
Jekyll and Hyde
July 3rd, 2012
3:11 pm
Bill Veeck said:
“It isn’t the high price of stars that is expensive, it’s the high price of mediocrity.”
The Braves seem to be the poster child for that philosophy. 25 or 30 mil coming off the books, but gotta give pay increases to people who are hitting .225 is going to eat up a lot of that.
I’m actually pro-union but it beats the hell out of me how a player can do a worse job than he did the year before and get a raise in arbitration! Thats a deal people in the real world don’t get.
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
3:12 pm
Lee Maye
Terdo isn’t ready fr MLB pitching and his defense at 3rd is awful
bethancourt is struggling with AA pitching
Gattis is a lousy defensive catcher
smart teams do not create problems by trading away performing veterans, a 3 week slump isn’t a reason to trade Uggla when compared to his great prior 2 months
Mac is still a top 10 hitting catcher even with his problems this year, yes, catcher hitting is THAT bad league wide.
Venice Jim
July 3rd, 2012
3:12 pm
Did Lee Maye just DFA Heyward?
Murph
July 3rd, 2012
3:12 pm
i know I’m down in the dumps about the Braves when even I am sick of hearing about Gattis. The guy hasn’t picked up a bat in over a month… at this point he’s no more exciting than Bethancourt or Salcedo.
Jeff R
July 3rd, 2012
3:13 pm
I’m actually pro-union but it beats the hell out of me how a player can do a worse job than he did the year before and get a raise in arbitration! Thats a deal people in the real world don’t get.
If it can happen at GM, why not in the MLB?
Duke
July 3rd, 2012
3:13 pm
He didn’t DFA him; he traded Heyward to the Nationals for cash considerations…
TennesseePaul
July 3rd, 2012
3:14 pm
Thanks for the work CR.
GO BRAVES!!
Last 9 Starts of the Starting 9
_________AVG__OBP__SLG___OPS_wOBA_L9S9+
Bourn__ .278 .326 .417 0.742 .338 ___98
Prado__ .353 .415 .471 0.885 .384 __138
Heyward .297 .325 .514 0.839 .353 __121
Chipper .344 .447 .594 1.041 .471 __177
Freeman .333 .378 .515 0.894 .363 __138
Uggla__ .125 .243 .156 0.399 .186 ___11
McCann_ .167 .189 .194 0.384 .155 ____4
Simmons .333 .371 .515 0.887 .409 __136
Jurrjen .143 .250 .143 0.393 .147 ___10
Mark
July 3rd, 2012
3:14 pm
Braves should be selling. Grienke could come to the Braves right now, pitch 3 complete games, give up 2 runs in all three and be 0 and 3 as a Brave with a 2 era.
We can’t score
TennesseePaul
July 3rd, 2012
3:15 pm
I don’t know if the team could make the postseason even if it were able to acquire Greinke and Sabathia, so is it really worth the prospects to try?
Good lesson for the kids there Murph: “You know kids, if you don’t think you can do it, don’t even try.”
Tina
July 3rd, 2012
3:16 pm
If we want to upgrade fire FREDDI>
Wow
July 3rd, 2012
3:18 pm
“He [Greinke] is a difference maker on a team where a difference can be made. That’s not here. Not this year.”
With how winnable the NL is looking, if the Braves can’t win this year, then I don’t see them winning for a while. It’s only going to get worse as the years go by with the Nationals on top.
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
3:18 pm
Mark
6 of our 14 losses since June 1st we scored at least 4 runs, that’s a pitching problem
Bayou Brave
July 3rd, 2012
3:19 pm
14 HRs!?! Call the kid up!
brian
July 3rd, 2012
3:19 pm
people are talking about whether or not it is reasonable to get Greinke based on our payroll limitations.
I would ask that if we get Greinke, does it make it more likely we deal McCann in the offseason rather than extend him
Jimmy
July 3rd, 2012
3:19 pm
NickB – “Gattis is a lousy defensive catcher”
That, right there Sir, will get you banned from this blog!
Do you understand?
Hillbilly
July 3rd, 2012
3:20 pm
I don’t know if the team could make the postseason even if it were able to acquire Greinke and Sabathia, so is it really worth the prospects to try?
The NL East has never seemed more winnable to me than it does this year. Maybe I’m way off, I don’t know. What I do know is that this is pretty much the same team that’s been on the field for going on 12 months, now, with no improvements over the winter, and no improvements in performance.
cricket
July 3rd, 2012
3:20 pm
Thats a deal people in the real world don’t get.
sports are part of real world, they do get paid real money..
archie
July 3rd, 2012
3:24 pm
All right, the Braves are going with that Murderers Row lineup in spots 4-7: One-base-at-a-time baseball. Chipper, Freeman, Uggla, McCann! Get 4 singles, you score a run!
Jimmy
July 3rd, 2012
3:24 pm
Murph – “The guy hasn’t picked up a bat in over a month”
Maybe not, but he is dominating the DL.
Mixxo
July 3rd, 2012
3:25 pm
“sports are part of real world, they do get paid real money..”
archie
July 3rd, 2012
3:26 pm
Pittsburgh Pirates payroll is $20 million less than the Braves. Guess who has the best record?
Frankie Wren
July 3rd, 2012
3:26 pm
The Giants won the West on the last day in 2010 when the Braves got in WC. That team was brutal offensively a tweak here and there and they came alive. Great pitching sure but challenged offensively.
Telling me the Braves can’t make a run if a Dempster or Greinke is picked up? Add some bench personal and maybe a reliever.
Horse hockey. This season can be turn into special big.
One Big Dummy
July 3rd, 2012
3:26 pm
I just don’t see how Greinke would all of a sudden turn us into World Beaters. If we pick up Greinke, are we suddenly going to go 30-11 at home in the second half? I think not.
We might only be 5 games out of first, but we were also 9.5 up in the wild card last year with 30 to play. Being 5 out means nothing when you can’t win at home or win on Monday.
Management needs to go before any other moves are made. It’s plain as day… To most of us.
Jeff R
July 3rd, 2012
3:26 pm
brian, the Braves could choose not to pick up options on Hudson and McCann, though I doubt that will happen.
Len Barker
July 3rd, 2012
3:26 pm
Even if we get Grienke and a big hitter- does anyone here really believe Freddie can get the job done?
Mike S
July 3rd, 2012
3:27 pm
What do you think it would take to get Liriano AND Willingham in a package deal?
I like that idea the best, centered around something involving Minor and Pastornicky, but I’m sure it will take more than that; the question is how much. And, conceivably, it’d have to be more than or equal to what Minnesota could get by trading them individually. But I think those two fit our needs the most, without having to go way overboard with the prospects given. DOB/Carroll/Others, thoughts?
Heisenberg
July 3rd, 2012
3:27 pm
If Braves get Grienke, they need to try to bring Joe Johnson back from the Nets so he can have someone to play hoops with.
Hillbilly
July 3rd, 2012
3:27 pm
I sound like such a pout-pout fish today, but that’s the way I feel. I don’t think this is the team to go all-in on.
Murph, I now pronounce you MurPPF. What would Caminiti say?
Frankie Wren
July 3rd, 2012
3:28 pm
“Pittsburgh Pirates payroll is $20 million less than the Braves. Guess who has the best record?”
BFD, it’s July 3rd not October 3rd. Post that again in September for me.
tiger297
July 3rd, 2012
3:28 pm
so management is responsible for the home woes and lack of wins on monday’s?
want to make sure I get that right its pretty deep
Jeff R
July 3rd, 2012
3:31 pm
The Pirates season isn’t finished, but you have to hand it to Neal Huntington, the Pirates GM. He stripped down the Pirates when he came over from Cleveland and became very aggressive in rebuilding restocking the farm system.
I think Huntington’s work with the Pirates has begun to pay off, and the Pirates still have some really good talent bubbling up through their system. The Pirates aren’t flashes in the pan.
cricket
July 3rd, 2012
3:32 pm
Management needs to go before any other moves are made. It’s plain as day… To most of us.
it isn’t clear to me. guess i’m just a one big dummy.
if this management had any guts, they would at the least banish mondays from the calendar.
keylargo
July 3rd, 2012
3:33 pm
Thats a deal people in the real world don’t get.
Yeah, but the young MLB players have to “suffer” through making $400K to $600K their first 3 years.
cricket
July 3rd, 2012
3:35 pm
Even if we get Grienke and a big hitter- does anyone here really believe Freddie can get the job done?
i do.
btw, i would venture that pirates are not going to win their division or WC in near future, even if they have a good team. just my opinion. if this turns out to be true, it underscores how tough it is to compete with a low payroll.
Murph
July 3rd, 2012
3:35 pm
Good lesson for the kids there Murph: “You know kids, if you don’t think you can do it, don’t even try.”
Just last week I came home to the 4 year standing on top of the dining room table (which is an elevated “pub style” table, taller than your average dining room table)… in front of her on the floor was Mrs Murph’s jogging trampoline, and beyond that was a pile of her stuffed animals.
I asked the 6 year old what the plan was, and she explained that she had talked the 4 year old into trying one of the tricks they’ve seen on Wipeout, their favorite show.
Being the responsible dad I surveyed the situation and made a quick evaluation as to the safety of the stunt. I gave the 4 year old what I saw as the three possible outcomes. One, she hits the trampoline perfectly and flies across the floor, landing perfectly in her pile of friends. Two, she misses the trampoline completely and breaks her leg. Three, she hits the trampoline but either overshoots the pile of soft Disney characters and hits the wall or caroms off to one side or the other.
After explaining her choices to her I told her that it was up to her. She stood there, pondering the possible outcomes… then jumped. As predicted she bounced off to the side and landed to the right of the pile of friends, splitting her lower lip open on the floor. After we got the bleeding stopped we talked about what went wrong, why she failed to execute. At the end of our stunt postmortem it was clear that she had not done the proper calculations nor had she thought through the possible ramifications of her jump thoroughly. We agreed that we wouldn’t try that particular stunt again.
If Wren has looked at all the scenarios and he sees the risks as being acceptable, then by all means, he should jump and go after Greinke, 2013 and beyond be damned. Should he miss the trampoline or hit the wall, though, that’s on him and nobody else.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
3:35 pm
Good lesson for the kids there Murph: “You know kids, if you don’t think you can do it, don’t even try.”
Good one!
Mark
July 3rd, 2012
3:37 pm
Hey again Nick
Greinke would have pitched 3 of the 6 we scored less then!
I think we need to be selling this year. Last year, I was a buyer and we got Bourn!
Turns out I was wrong last year but I do admit I’m not right all the time, unlike some people on here.
PMC
July 3rd, 2012
3:38 pm
Well at least they can’t use, “hot pitcher” as an excuse tonight.
That said watch Volstad come in here and one hit them in an hour and a half.
Frankie Wren
July 3rd, 2012
3:38 pm
Andy Griffith would have handled it in similar fashion with Opie.
Jeff R
July 3rd, 2012
3:39 pm
btw, i would venture that pirates are not going to win their division or WC in near future, even if they have a good team. just my opinion. if this turns out to be true, it underscores how tough it is to compete with a low payroll.
Pittsburgh payroll has gone up modestly, as I recall. Certainly, they’ve upped their signing bonuses for prospects. They control these players for six years, minimum.
Check out the Pirates farm system. They’ve got some solid talent in the pipeline.
What ?
July 3rd, 2012
3:39 pm
As long as we are STUCK with CHICKEN wren and LITTLE freddi, we will NEVER go anywhere !
Why can John S. get over being loyal and FIRE these two IDIOTS ? Heck ANYONE on this blog could do their jobs 100% better than they ever could !!!
GET RID OF THEM, Our Only Hope !
Mixxo
July 3rd, 2012
3:39 pm
Cricket bringing the lulz today.
Look, lets just bring Constanza back up and start winning baseball games.
Simple.
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
3:41 pm
if Greinke and Sheets improve upon Delgado/Jurrjens and Minor , then that would probably mean an extra 5-6 wins over what we could have expected without acquiring them, at a minimum.
I reckon 5 or 6 extra wins would make this team playoff bound
Frankie Wren
July 3rd, 2012
3:41 pm
Like to see us deal Jurrjens to the Pirates for Gorky Hernandez and Jeff Locke.
PMC
July 3rd, 2012
3:41 pm
If they really are prepared to spend that kind of money on Grienke, It makes me question what they were thinking continually drafting all these average pitchers highly in the draft when they could have helped the team more quickly taking position players like…. Mike Trout… etc etc.
Pitchers are not exciting, and aparently it takes them 5 or 6 years to get ready.
Heisenberg
July 3rd, 2012
3:41 pm
Well Murph, while the child may not try THAT trick again, one day you will come home and there will be a ramp built on the roof of your house facing the direction of the swiiming pool next door and a 10 year old on a dirt bike……………………………….
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
3:41 pm
Mixxo
yer joking right?
archie
July 3rd, 2012
3:42 pm
Braves have no plans to call up Constanza. They’re afraid he might pass McCann, Freeman and Chipper on the basepaths. Also, it’s more fun to watch Matt Diaz circle aimlessly in left field before a ball sails over his head.
Jeff R
July 3rd, 2012
3:43 pm
Andy Griffith running a baseball team means Barney would manage. Gomer and Goober would be base coaches. Floyd would be the pitching coach. Opie a bat boy. Otis would hawk beers. And the Darlins would provide the post game entertainment. All this every Tuesday night on CBS!
VaBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
3:43 pm
It really sucks that the Nats come in our house and punch us in the mouth and win the series easily. Then the Cubs come in and beat us very easily, oh forgot it was Monday tho… We don’t play to win on Mondays.
My thoughts on going after Grienke are if we trade a huge package to get em, we better be able to lock this guy up long term hopefully for less than 20 mil per season.
Mark
July 3rd, 2012
3:44 pm
I hear ya Mixxo
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
3:44 pm
why should they call him up? ever since the book got out on Him he’s hit .154 as a major leaguer. with one extra base hit in 20 games. he sucks, and he plays worse defense in left than Prado does…
He’s a 4th OF’er on a non-contender , a 5th OF’er on a mediocre team, he has no place here
Frankie Wren
July 3rd, 2012
3:45 pm
Nate McLouth lighting up Triple A with .210 avg.
Hope Nate’s resume has been updated before he enters the private sector.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
3:46 pm
Constanza, the 29 year old who is so good, not even the worst MLB teams have him starting for them…. He could’ve been signed last year to a Major league contract, instead he came to the Braves on a minor league contract.
One Big Dummy
July 3rd, 2012
3:46 pm
Management is responsible for its subordinates in any company. Intelligent management does not tolerate stupid worker bees. After a certain point, you’re darned right it’s the fault of management that we can’t win at home on win on Monday!
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
3:46 pm
not much of a spark when you aren’t on base….
oh , and don’t forget he wasn’t much of a spark in the 12 games he played in last september either… you Constanza fan club people seem to omit that part, as he hit .123
cricket
July 3rd, 2012
3:46 pm
Jeff R – I know pirates have a good team and good pipeline of prospects and still think they won’t be able to beat Cards or Reds (once in blue moon) or (god forbid) Cubs for division and East or West will win the WC in near future. Just my opinion, not criticizing anything that org has done. Let us see how it plays out next few seasons.
Mixxo
July 3rd, 2012
3:46 pm
NickB -
Not really, guy’s a spark plug.
Stuff happens when he’s here….and, most of it good.
Mark
July 3rd, 2012
3:47 pm
As for the non-contender and mediocre part he should fit ion nicely then!
Murph
July 3rd, 2012
3:47 pm
one day you will come home and there will be a ramp built on the roof of your house facing the direction of the swiiming pool next door and a 10 year old on a dirt bike…
If my kids have the wherewithal to build a ramp on top of my roof… well, I would applaud them, then put them to work on building me a back deck after the broken bones healed.
Ekim
July 3rd, 2012
3:47 pm
Murph, I presume your trampoline story is a fable to make a point. Not sure what the point is. It’s all on Wren (and other Braves management). All the time. It’s never been any other way.
Jeff R
July 3rd, 2012
3:48 pm
Frankie Wren, if Nate was smart, he’s invested all that dough from the big contract he signed previously with the Pirates (and the Braves’ assumed). Work? Only if he wants to. Otherwise, he’s got his lot picked out at The Villages and will just wait to get old.
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
3:49 pm
Mixxo
explain to me how he contributed so much to the Braves when he wasn’t on base, nor getting hits? is it his sparkling personality? then put him on the roof with some pom poms.
To try and argue HE was the cause of the Braves earlier winning streak after they lost 8 in a row is ludicrous, he was the worst hitting player n the team during that winning streak. It was a coincidence…. He sucks
VaBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
3:49 pm
The Braves are believed to be seriously considering a trade for Greinke even if they don’t have assurances of keeping him beyond 2012, David O’Brien of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution tweets. O’Brien doubts the Braves would offer Greinke $20MM per season on an extension.
A former teammate of Greinke’s told Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com that the right-hander would like to play for the Braves. Greinke likes Atlanta and wants to win badly, according to Greinke’s friend. The Braves, who have lost four of their past five games, haven’t yet decided how aggressively to pursue upgrades in midseason trades.
The Braves are willing to trade young arms for Greinke, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports reported yesterday.
Jeff R
July 3rd, 2012
3:49 pm
cricket, the Cards and Reds will be tough, so you might not be wrong.
Woody Woodward
July 3rd, 2012
3:50 pm
Jeff R–earnest t bass would be the PA announcer.
DS1
July 3rd, 2012
3:50 pm
nolie
Answer to your question on the other blog: A’s, A’s and Yankees.
Heisenberg
July 3rd, 2012
3:50 pm
Even a 5-6 or 4-7 record on Mondays would have Braves within a game of the Nats. Somebody needs to go into the clubhouse and make some “modifications” to the calendar.
tom
July 3rd, 2012
3:51 pm
Grienke doesnt have an agent i have heard though if the braves do get him i envision Scott Boras and him chatting.
Jeff R
July 3rd, 2012
3:51 pm
Woody Woodward, yes, he would! I think Aunt Bea works one of the concession stands.
cricket
July 3rd, 2012
3:52 pm
This whiny guy was supposed to be the 2nd coming?
Wright vs.Sandoval: A city of 8 million was outvoted by a city of 800,000.
— Sandy Alderson (@MetsGM) July 2, 2012
ASG election of “Kung Fu Panda” shows the value of a cute nickname. Surprised Giants fans didn’t elect a “ball dude” to start at 3B.
— Sandy Alderson (@MetsGM) July 3, 2012
Mixxo
July 3rd, 2012
3:52 pm
At this point Nick, I’ll take any “coincidence” I can get. We’re just bad right now. Real bad.
Murph
July 3rd, 2012
3:52 pm
Murph, I presume your trampoline story is a fable to make a point.
Unfortunately for the 4 year old it’s 100% true. I came home yesterday and was greeted with “Daddy! My scab fell off!” I said “Wow, awesome! Where did it fall off?” and she said “I dunno, I think in the pool.” She then proceeded to tell me about the new friend she made and how the kid had a horrible rash on her face.
Not everything that is floating in the neighborhood pool is a leaf.
DS1
July 3rd, 2012
3:52 pm
Let’s trade Teheran and McCann for Greinke. And throw in Uggla. That way folks can quit complaining about those guys.
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
3:52 pm
ton
He does have an agent, hired one right before Spring training, same folks who represent Freeman and Heyward
Mark
July 3rd, 2012
3:53 pm
Mixxo
I’ve said we should move Prado to 2nd to make room for Constanza in left.
PMC
July 3rd, 2012
3:54 pm
Everytime Mike Minor pitches, imagine how much better the outfield would have been with Mike Trout.
Heisenberg
July 3rd, 2012
3:54 pm
“Hope Nate’s resume has been updated before he enters the private sector”
*************************************
The good news for Nate is the US Supreme Court rulled last week that lying is protected as free speech. So we can all update our resumes.
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
3:54 pm
Mixxo
we aren’t bad, we are streaky, this is what you get when you have 3 starters 22 years old, 6 pitchers 25 or under and 2 of your veterans slumping…
Ward
July 3rd, 2012
3:54 pm
Hello everyone! Great article DOB, and very well written…..Get Greinke……….Go the distance…….
archie
July 3rd, 2012
3:55 pm
“Why would the Braves call up Constanza?” Ummm…because they win when he’s in the lineup? Oh I forgot. Most folks on this board are tickled to death with the status quo. We like our slow-footed, iron-glove no-impact Braves.
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
3:55 pm
Mark
and you’d be wrong
you trust one 23 game sample of success followed by 20 games of terrrible play over 6 years of success followed by 3 weeks of terrible play…..
that’s the dumbest thing in the world
Bayou Brave
July 3rd, 2012
3:56 pm
When is Moylen scheduled to be back? That should boost the pen.
cricket
July 3rd, 2012
3:56 pm
Let’s trade Teheran and McCann for Greinke. And throw in Uggla. That way folks can quit complaining about those guys.
you forgot biggest complaint target – FG
Ward
July 3rd, 2012
3:58 pm
Rotation with Huddy, Greinke, J.J. Hanson, Delgado. Not too bad, and of course some one would have to go when Beachy comes back, next year,and when Ben Sheets comes into the picture.
JoeFan
July 3rd, 2012
3:59 pm
Braves have to many other holes to fill. Committing $15-$20 per season for any pitcher without a Cy Young on his resume is beyond belief. These kind of dollars could better be used to improve the bench and bullpen, plus help fill a hole in CF or LF in 2013.
Mark
July 3rd, 2012
3:59 pm
I’m sorry Nick.
I’m just tired of watching Uggla priss around out there doing that silly little dance in the batters box as he prepares to stike out.
Ward
July 3rd, 2012
3:59 pm
Trade Wren for Cashman…….little humor….
Jeff R
July 3rd, 2012
3:59 pm
DS1,
Trade McCann? I’d missed all those really clever fat jokes that some bloggers endless tell about Brian. You know, like, “Little Debbie’s retiring, so whose picture is going on a box of Swiss Rolls?”
Smart stuff like that.
VaBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
4:00 pm
What if McCann struggles the whole season? Is there anyway the Braves wouldn’t do the 2013 option?
Jeff R
July 3rd, 2012
4:00 pm
I doubt Jurrjens a Brave in ‘13, so strike him.
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
4:01 pm
archie
where is your evidence of Constanzas offensive performance in 2012? how did he lead the braves to victory? during the 6 out of 7 the Braves won to break the 8 game losing streak, Uggla hit a 3 run HR to stop the streak, Mac and Freeman homered and Mac drove in the go ahead runs in the next game
If you look at the box scores, the Braves won with Constanza up with the long ball and with situational hitting by Uggla, Mac,Freeman and Heyward. Nowhere in there will you see Constanza’s amazing game winning play……
DS1
July 3rd, 2012
4:01 pm
Mark
You’ve made it abundantly clear that you don’t like Dan Uggla. We get it. We don’t care.
Ralph
July 3rd, 2012
4:01 pm
Volstad went winless in eight starts with the Cubs to start the season, going 0-6 with a 7.46 ERA. He wasn’t a whole lot better in the minors, going 2-3 with a 4.44 ERA in Triple-A Iowa.
He will rebound tonight and pitch like Sandy Kofax, Welcome Volsie to the braves convalesce get well center.
iTiSi
July 3rd, 2012
4:02 pm
Any SMART manager would try to find the reason the Braves are 0-11 on Mondays. Has to be a reason for it. Six of those losses are at home. Maybe find out what they are doing on Sunday nights, and set up a curfew. Wouldn’t hurt to try it. I noticed most of them(not Simmons and Prado) played like they were “hungover” last night! Knowing FG though he would say, “Ahh, it’s just one of those things”.
Jeff R
July 3rd, 2012
4:02 pm
I think McCann would really have to tank for the Braves not to exercise his option in ‘13. After ‘13, all bets are off.
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
4:02 pm
VaBraves
nope, there are no catchers available who even hit that good……
b
July 3rd, 2012
4:03 pm
Constanza hit .291, period for ML average. Qut using spot playing stat to show your hate for Constanza. The point is he really helps the team and if you don’t realize that, then you need help.
Rick
July 3rd, 2012
4:03 pm
Matt Young DFA by the Tigers today. Has mostly been in AAA this season.
Mark
July 3rd, 2012
4:04 pm
I think thats Wren and the other Braves Execs attitude as well.
They don’t care and it shows
Ward
July 3rd, 2012
4:04 pm
Replace Jack Wilson with “The Rev.” There’s is one solution for the bench.
brian
July 3rd, 2012
4:04 pm
BRaves will never NOT pick up the option for McCann. Even if they don’t plan on him being on the team, they would pick up his option and trade him
jeffrey d
July 3rd, 2012
4:04 pm
I’m just tired of watching Uggla priss around out there doing that silly little dance in the batters box as he prepares to stike out.
That’s what he does before he homers too
TuffShhhtuff
July 3rd, 2012
4:04 pm
“DS1″, yes some of us do care. He is taking up a spot on the AS team that should be going to someone like Bourne, WHO HAS EARNED IT! Uggla will probably just embarrass himself and the team, plus Atlanta, like he did before.
Rick
July 3rd, 2012
4:05 pm
b, Constanza has had so little experience in the ML you could call it all a “spot playing stat.” There’s a reason why he’s toiled for so long in the minors: he can’t consistently hit ML level pitching. Do you have some secret info all the scouts have missed?
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
4:05 pm
When is Moylen scheduled to be back? That should boost the pen.
Late July, early August…. Don’t know if it’ll boost the pen, but it’ll be good to have him back.
I’m just tired of seeing Marktyping his silly little crap in the “commenters” box as he prepares to strike out vs. the facts (again)
Bat Masterson
July 3rd, 2012
4:06 pm
The good news for Nate is the US Supreme Court rulled last week that lying is protected as free speech. So we can all update our resumes. _ Heisenberg
I haven’t had a chance to check into that one yet. It seems I heard something about still being able to prosecute someone if they gained from the lie. I don’t know, but politicians everywhere should be put on notice.
Rick
July 3rd, 2012
4:06 pm
Bourn plays second base?
VaBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
4:06 pm
I agree, I think there would have to be some huge Red Flags for them to not do it. Still scratching my head on the season he has had thus far. Even over his career his 1st halfs have always been better than the 2nd halfs… So hard to think McCann will get hot long enough to put up numbers we were expected to see.
Ralph
July 3rd, 2012
4:07 pm
The Braves have one of their top scouts in Milwaukee last night to watch Greinke pitch against the Marlins. He gave up five runs in six innings but took a no-decision
If he had been pitching for the Braves he would have lost 5-0, hell we have a bunch of guys that can do that!
Bayou Brave
July 3rd, 2012
4:08 pm
Uggla the AllStar?
Jeff R
July 3rd, 2012
4:08 pm
BRaves will never NOT pick up the option for McCann. Even if they don’t plan on him being on the team, they would pick up his option and trade him
Depends if he’s tradeable at that point. Just never know.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
4:09 pm
Constanza hit .291, period for ML average.
Over what, 50 games. Constanza was a gimmick that worked for a while, that party is over. Let it go.
DS1″, yes some of us do care. He is taking up a spot on the AS team that should be going to someone like Bourne, WHO HAS EARNED IT! Uggla will probably just embarrass himself and the team, plus Atlanta, like he did before.
Bourn plays 2nd base? Unless I’m missing something, Uggla is the leading 2nd baseman in the league…
I’m just tired of watching Uggla priss around out there doing that silly little dance in the batters box as he prepares to stike out.
That’s what he does before he homers too
This
b, Constanza has had so little experience in the ML you could call it all a “spot playing stat.” There’s a reason why he’s toiled for so long in the minors: he can’t consistently hit ML level pitching. Do you have some secret info all the scouts have missed?
Yea he does. .291 batting average baby! Who cares if it game over 50 or so games….
HelpMe
July 3rd, 2012
4:09 pm
There are a couple ways to look at a potential Greinke deal. First, you could look at giving up two young prospects such as Julio Teheran, Randall Delgado or Mike Minor. One of those three plus a position player are rumored to be required to trade for Greinke. I would argue that you know what you’re getting with Greinke. He’s 29. He does have a number of serviceable years left. Teheran has not shown much in his major league starts. I get it that he’s young, but he hasn’t shown much at all. Minor has, well, shown that he doesn’t belong…at least right now. Delgado may be a third or fourth starter at best. It would depend on whether or not a top tier position player is required to me. The second way to look at it is that you says, “Atlanta isn’t going anywhere this season just as they didn’t last season and start preparing for the future.” What does that mean? Would you deal Brian McCann? Would you deal Dan Uggla? What about Tim Hudson? What about Michael Bourn? I understand that there are issues connected to each of those. The fact is you either feel that you’re in it and try to get better for the run which means trading young players or you feel that you’re not in it and you deal veterans for young talent. Let’s see what happens.
Mark
July 3rd, 2012
4:09 pm
Yeah. He has done that 11 times!
The struck out part 90 plus
Brave New World
July 3rd, 2012
4:09 pm
We need to trade Chipper for Matt Cain, and SF will have to throw in Melky to sweeten the deal.
Scottbravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
4:11 pm
They are 5 games back in the division and 2 back in the wild card and you mouth breathers want to sale? You do realize there is 3 months left in the season. That is a lot of games. The braves fan base on this blog is horrible.
Brave New World
July 3rd, 2012
4:11 pm
Constanza for Greinke, and Brewers will add Ryan Braun to sweeten the deal.
Matt Chernoff
July 3rd, 2012
4:11 pm
Uggla will probably just embarrass himself and the team, plus Atlanta, like he did before.
Actually he embarased the Marlins last time
jeffrey d
July 3rd, 2012
4:11 pm
I see we’re acting extra loopy today
Lew
July 3rd, 2012
4:12 pm
Transplant – in a way he didn’t intend – pointed out something telling on the last blog. If we go all in on Grienke, we may well have an outfield next year of Davis (if we get him along with Grienke as he proposes), Cunningham – two unprven AA players, manning the outfield with Heyward. Or in his best case scenario, Davis and Angel Pagan.
NOw truly – with Grienke making about 20% of our payroll, is he a big enough upgrade to make up for two downgrades in LF and CF?
Not so sure I see it as better for the Braves.
Brave New World
July 3rd, 2012
4:12 pm
Scottbravesfan July 3rd, 2012 4:11 pm
They are 5 games back in the division and 2 back in the wild card and you mouth breathers want to sale? You do realize there is 3 months left in the season. That is a lot of games. The braves fan base on this blog is horrible.
True that!
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
4:13 pm
Yeah. He has done that 11 times!
Uggla also did that “dance” last year when he had a career-high 36 homeruns…
DS1
July 3rd, 2012
4:15 pm
Uggla got voted to the ASG. He is not blocking anybody, except maybe Brandon Phillips. And I could give a rats azz whether Phillips is on the AS team.
Lew
July 3rd, 2012
4:15 pm
How exactly, do you enforce a curfew when you’re playing at home? Send a coach to their houses tomake sure they’re in bed and the kiddies are all tucked in?
TennesseePaul
July 3rd, 2012
4:15 pm
Should he miss the trampoline or hit the wall, though, that’s on him and nobody else.
Murph, I’d still say it depends. Could be Wren makes the deal and the team doesn’t get to the post season due to a tragic paper-clip fight in the club house resulting in 10 of the 25 players landing in the ICU. That isn’t Wren’s fault, unless he instigated by supplying the paper-clips. But otherwise, injuries happen. With or without trades.
And secondly, I’d still rather see the man try for the post-season instead of not. I wouldn’t care much for this team if it has a shot and chooses to let it go because it didn’t think it could make it even if it tried. This team has a shot.
Jeff R
July 3rd, 2012
4:15 pm
HelpMe, you’ve put your finger on it. If the Braves mean to contend, they need to be bold and do what they can to try to put the team over the top. If not, get strategic and look to ‘13 and beyond.
My guess is is that Wren is under a ton of pressure to contend now. That’s why I think he’ll pull the trigger on trades to try to get the Braves out of the doldrums and moving forward.
Bat Masterson
July 3rd, 2012
4:15 pm
Poor Biff………. He gets his brains beat out here because a couple of rabble rousers advocate for him.
VaBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
4:16 pm
The most disappointing player on this team is Brian McCann by far. A 671 OPS on the season is a huge decline in production.
Atleast Uggla has produced a 361. OBP on the season even with this huge slump. But he will get hot again and will still flirt with 30 homers most likely.
archie
July 3rd, 2012
4:18 pm
Yes, that amazing Uggla is really something. Where did his heroics get the Braves last October? Oh right, they didn’t play in October. And this year? He’s leading the way to a long off-season again! All hail Uggla.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
4:18 pm
Lew: I don’t think Bourn is coming back. He’s gonna want 15mil/yr I think and the Braves will say no thanks. Whoever plays CF next year is not gonna change whether we have Greinke or not. Now, LF/3B is more interesting depending on where Prado goes. Maybe they’ll let Francisco (who you think can produce) play 3rd.
Anyways, tell me. Who would you rather pay 15mil/yr to… a 29 yr old pitcher who “loves” your team and is entering his prime, or a 30yr old CF whose entire game depends on his legs which aren’t getting better as he gets older…
Mark
July 3rd, 2012
4:18 pm
I hope I’m wrong again and Uggla will do something to help win a game.
We’ll see
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
4:19 pm
b
no sir, he has a small sample size , and you HAVE to ue the progression of his numbers to dictate his present value
which I will demonstrate for you here.
2011: Jul: 13 AB’s .308/.308/.385
Aug: 73 AB’s .342/.392/.452
Sep: 23 AB’s .174/.174/.174
2012: Apr: 3 AB’s 000/000/000
May: 7 AB’s 571/571/571
Jun: 22 AB’s 182/182/227
first 86 AB’s on the Braves .337 Avg
following 55 AB’s .218 avg
he sucks, they figured him out , let it go
VaBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
4:19 pm
Lew
I agree. Really tough to pay 1 player 20% of the payroll. The only kind of player I’d pay that much for is someone who is gonna play 155+ games and produce close to a 300/400/500 line.
Lew
July 3rd, 2012
4:19 pm
If McCann is bad enough that we don’t think he’ll return to form and want to trade him, why would someone want him unless they thought he would return to form? In which case, we should keep him.
Ward
July 3rd, 2012
4:21 pm
Wren if you build it? People will come……..Patience my friends the trade will happen. All have a great 4th OF July, and I will be back on Thursday, or Friday. Spending time with family at the lake…….Peace my friends, and “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
Ralph
July 3rd, 2012
4:21 pm
Next year Wren will put Prado on 3B, will not resign Bourn and will find two washed up outfielders in the Dumpster and that will be it folks.
VaBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
4:22 pm
Lew, I agree once again. McCann will either be a Brave or be a free agent eventually.
Arkansas Transplant
July 3rd, 2012
4:22 pm
Lew, actually what I wish would happen would be for us to trade for Greinke using Minor in that trade. And then making a move to bring in Willingham. In that scenario we’d end up with Willingham in LF, Cunningham CF or Pagan, Heyward in RF.
jeffrey d
July 3rd, 2012
4:22 pm
why would someone want him unless they thought he would return to form?
Because we know more than the baseball world.
b
July 3rd, 2012
4:23 pm
Constanza has over .300 career minor league average. Just because he doesn’t hit like francisco during batting practice doesn’t mean he doesn’t belong on Braves roster. Replace Juan with Jose.
And put Medlen in rotation. When he started, team had 13-2 w-l record. Braves have treated Medlen and Constanza like CRAP.
b
July 3rd, 2012
4:23 pm
Constanza has over .300 career minor league average. Just because he doesn’t hit like francisco during batting practice doesn’t mean he doesn’t belong on Braves roster. Replace Juan with Jose.
And put Medlen in rotation. When he started, team had 13-2 w-l record. Braves have treated Medlen and Constanza like CRAP.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
4:23 pm
Take care and have fun Ward. Happy Independence Day to ya!
Bat Masterson
July 3rd, 2012
4:25 pm
Anyway, I just watched Episode #1 of the Andy Griffith Show online. Still really good after what, 50 years……
It looks like rain anytime now, here.
Murph
July 3rd, 2012
4:25 pm
They are 5 games back in the division and 2 back in the wild card
Don’t forget 3 games over .500.
Efrim is right, the NL is winnable this year… I don’t know that the WS is winnable, but the Braves could cross that bridge if they get to it.
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
4:25 pm
medlen’s 13-2 record is the result of 5.5 runs of support per start avg, I see you forgot to mention Meds had a 4.23 ERA as a starter, and presently has more value to the club as a reliever….
ChattTownBrian
July 3rd, 2012
4:25 pm
I wrote Greinke said a few years back during his big year at the All Star game how big a Braves fan he was and he still is. Maybe he will cut back on his asking price to around $16 mil. Ya never know.
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
4:26 pm
Marlins up 2-0 on the Brewers.
I’m actually rooting for Brewers losses now.
Go Greinke.
One Big Dummy
July 3rd, 2012
4:27 pm
Sure, the Braves can win the N.L. or the wild card. Except for, you know, that whole Fredi Gonzalez-is-our-manager thing.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
4:28 pm
And put Medlen in rotation. When he started, team had 13-2 w-l record.
All about run support. His ERA is near 4 when he started.
Constanza has over .300 career minor league average. Just because he doesn’t hit like francisco during batting practice doesn’t mean he doesn’t belong on Braves roster. Replace Juan with Jose.
Jose doesn’t play 3B. Can’t switch those 2. But if you read this blog often, you’d know I don’t like Juan either…
BravesfaninWis
July 3rd, 2012
4:28 pm
The Braves should be sellers and calling other teams to see what they can get in return for some of their players. It’s painfully obvious that this team, with this coaching staff, and this ownership group will not be a playoff team regardless of who they have playing for them.
So don’t be trading for any players, trade some of the ones on this team. See what kind of interest you can drum up in Hanson or any of the starters. See if you can get anything for Uggla. See what you can get for Bourn ( we all know he won’t be a Brave after this season anyways because the owners are so damn cheap, and he wants to play for a winner) maybe gauge interest in McCann.
The only ones I wouldn’t trade at this point is Freeman, Prado, Kimbrel, and Simmons, the rest are fair game. Of course none of this will happen because the Braves actually think they have a shot this season. I guess after that monumental collapse last season, and their up and down crap this season, they still for some reason think they have a chance. Sorry boys, your season is done. Maybe if you actually showed heart we might believe otherwise.
AZBravoFan
July 3rd, 2012
4:28 pm
Do people really not get why getting a Greinke and/or Dempster would make this team better. Of course it won’t solve the offense. But it would mean you’re not running Minor and Delgado out there 2 out of every 5 games. Maybe, just maybe, they won’t start a few games down a crooked number before they even bat. (I realize even Huddy is not immune…). Or maybe after the offense scratches out a run or two, someone will go out there and put up a 1-2-3 inning instead of walking the first 2 guys and creating a rally. Or maybe someone will make that tough pitch to escape a jam and end an inning. And maybe we won’t have to keep running the likes of Durbin, Martinez, and Varvaro out there with the bases loaded all the time. This team’s philosophy has always been that it all starts with starting pitching. When that breaks down, as it has the past 2 years, it’s a domino effect.
Let's Go
July 3rd, 2012
4:28 pm
A pitcher that pitches every 5 days is not the answer to this years problems so why not wait until the off season and sign him to a contract. Yes this team needs a starter, actually 2, but it also needs some RBI hitters and a whole lot of help in the bullpen.
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
4:29 pm
This talk about the Braves having too many holes to contend in the NL is the biggest joke I’ve seen.
Look around the “Senior” circuit, folks. It’s as mediocre as its been in years. Braves can absolutely get tot he World Series and who knows what happens?
Go for it, Frank.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
4:29 pm
Nick: Our pen is sufficient with Kimbrel, O’flaherty and Durbin You (and I) must have missed that memo
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
4:29 pm
I think Francisco has value, just not on the Braves, IMO, he would be much better off getting more playing time in the AL where he could get more AB’s and develop his eye a bit more….
VaBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
4:29 pm
Uggla lowered his asking price for us. He wanted around 75 million in Florida. Grienke might view Atlanta as the place he wants to be and is willing to take a small would be cut in pay.
Lew
July 3rd, 2012
4:30 pm
Only Braves – You’re missing the point. Is Grienke going to improve our team enough to make up for the severe downgrade at two outfield spots, much less make us better all around?
In my way of thinking, I’d rather do a deal with the Twins and pick up either Willingham or Span – both of whom are signed for at least two more years – Willingham is able to play several positions and has decent power, Span a solid offensive player with speed and good defense at all outfield positions and Francisco Liriano, who is pitching very well tsince returning to the Twins rotation and who is only third year arb eligble this winter.
Liriano could either provide LH mid rotation pitching next year or non tendered if we wanted (not sure why we would unless he bombs, which is unlikely) and Span could either take over CF if Bourn is not signed (doubt he will be) and we could use the money NOT spent on Grienke (Span and Liriano or Willingham and Liriano would cost a bit more than CHipper is on his own) to pick up a LFer who puts up an .800 OPS or if by some strange happening out of the blue, we sign Bourn, Span moves to LF. If it’s Willingham instead of Span, you either sign Bourn or then go get someone like Angel Pagan.
That way, we have extra bench strength this year and a decent mid rotation pitcher and are covered going forward for a couple of years. Makes sense to me and would improve the team all around and keeps us within budget.
Arkansas Transplant
July 3rd, 2012
4:30 pm
No one really knows what it would take to sign Greinke long term, but what we do know is the guys presently have aren’t getting it done. I’d bet Greinke added to our rotation would be at least 6 to 8 extra wins added.
Mark
July 3rd, 2012
4:30 pm
Fire Freddi – Thats where it starts and ends on the field
If the new manager can’t get the Braves to play hard and smart and look like professionals then we’ll know it wasn’t Freddis fault totally and then start selling players and start over building around the young talented guys on the team.
Create some accountability!
Columbus
July 3rd, 2012
4:30 pm
Here is what many of you Einsteins are missing. The Braves are not far from the division lead without Beachy and only Hudson being reliable. its nto about how many games Greinke would win, BUT how many the Braves would win. Think if Greinke had been starting instead of Delgado or Minor. The Braves would likely be in first place. That being said, hes too expensive for a long term deal IMO. With the young guys being ready for next year and maybe even the 2nd half this year, why spend so much? Is he worth it to the Braves with all the young arms beyond this season? Maybe if you consider Beachy will miss 4-5 months of next season.
Braves need to resign some players next year and they will get raises. Braves also need to fill Chippers spot and lets not forget Bourn or his replacement. If Greinke can last the rest of this year and next year and STILL be pitching well to trade the rest of his contract, its something to think about. But cheaper options might be the road to travel….
Beachy, Hudson, Jair, Delgado, Minor, Vizcaino. Insurance would be smart and Greinke is excellent insurance but costs a lot….Sheets could help but I do agree we need one more starter to get us through until Beachy is back and to see if JJ is going to be close to he all-star he was last year and until the rookies can hold their own. Time will tell. I hope they can hold it the 2nd half most of the time. Then everything will be fine.
Venters needs to get back on track QUICK!
Chipper will get hot soon. Just pray for no more injuries and he can carry the club. Braves needto score more obviously. McCann? Where is he? He said he was about to get hot and he did a little better for a coupl games but…maybe just the pitching he faced yesterday….
Just dont be hasty signing 20 million dollar contracts and I know Wren will not be…
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
4:30 pm
What’s the over/under on how many years before Loria has a fire sale in Florida?
ChattTownBrian
July 3rd, 2012
4:31 pm
BravesWis, I don’t think we’re a playoff team this year either, just being true to my feelings, but you do not “sell” when you’re a handful of games behind the 1st place team in July. We’re right there in the thick of it. At least for now.
AZBravoFan
July 3rd, 2012
4:31 pm
The bullpen is a whole other story. Does Venters still have options left? That dude needs the JJ treatment down in Gwinnett for a while. He’s unusable right now. We’re talking Jessie Chavez bad…
Sopheee
July 3rd, 2012
4:31 pm
George should start a club.
OTP
July 3rd, 2012
4:33 pm
The Rev has 14 doubles, 0 HR’s.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
4:33 pm
but it also needs some RBI hitters and a whole lot of help in the bullpen.
We have RBI hitters. They’re just slumping right now (BMac, Uggla). In the pen, I think just 1 shutdown RP, maybe 1 decent arm is all we need. (the decent arm could be Moylan, JV returning to form….)
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
4:34 pm
Lew
Liriano is a free agent next year
Twins have said they aren’t interested in trading Willingham unless blown away
Span’s bat will not cut it at a corner spot, and he may be a product of the dome
Greinke may sign with the Braves below market rates
there will be enough money to sign Greinke then trade for a young CF’er AND STILL be active in the corner OF/3B market.
Heisenberg
July 3rd, 2012
4:34 pm
“Jose doesn’t play 3B. Can’t switch those 2. But if you read this blog often, you’d know I don’t like Juan either…”
*************
I seem to recall Jose filling in a couple times at 3B last year though he is not to be mistaken for Brooks Robinson. FWIW. I am not a believer that either Jose or Juan are solutions to any any Braves problems.
Speaking of guys named Brooks, one by the surname of Conrad is getting facetime lately on Baseball tonight highlights as a member of the Rays.
Lew
July 3rd, 2012
4:35 pm
No, it won’t happen because we already have one of the youngest teams in MLB and getting even younger with all these prospects won’t help us for a couple more years when we’re pretty close now.
So yeah, let’s trade McCann, Uggla and Heywa(d (now that he’s finally looking like the player we’ve been waiting for) so we can be non contenders with an average age of 23 the next few years.
PMC
July 3rd, 2012
4:35 pm
The Braves should be more all in on resigning Michael Bourne than signing any pitchers in the 16 – 20 million dollar range per year.
Pitching is a problem now yes, the lineup and specifically centerfield and leadoff has been a black hole when Bourne wasn’t here for most of the last decade.
They spent all these draft picks on pitchers, use them. IF they don’t work. Fire the scouting staff and the GM.
OTP
July 3rd, 2012
4:35 pm
The link is bad on the Baby Blue Fest. Can someone tell me whether this is for some charity, or just to line some celebrity pockets?
PMC
July 3rd, 2012
4:35 pm
Bourn, sorry.
Arkansas Transplant
July 3rd, 2012
4:36 pm
NickB, we may not have to trade for a CF. Cunningham has looked rather good this year and now that he’s healthy may not be a bad option for cf.
Lew
July 3rd, 2012
4:36 pm
NickB – Yeah, right. Permit me to doubt.
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
4:37 pm
Jose Constanza has no appearances at any other position than the 3 OF spots as a major leaguer
(just went and checked on fangraphs)
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
4:37 pm
No fire sale right now for these Braves. Actually, they are at a point where Wren should be going all-in over the next six months. Prospects down on the farm should be worried, not the core six – Prado, Uggla, McCann, Heyward, Freeman, Simmons – these guys are locked in for the rest of 2012 and 2013.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
4:38 pm
In my way of thinking, I’d rather do a deal with the Twins and pick up either Willingham or Span – both of whom are signed for at least two more years – Willingham is able to play several positions and has decent power, Span a solid offensive player with speed and good defense at all outfield positions and Francisco Liriano, who is pitching very well tsince returning to the Twins rotation and who is only third year arb eligble this winter.
Span? Wow, have you lost it. Look at his splits outside of Minnesota. They’re crap. Liriano pitching well since returning to the rotation in 6, count it, 6 starts. The guy was horrendous before that.( and was last year too).
Arkansas Transplant
July 3rd, 2012
4:40 pm
PMC, sorry but we were in first last year for a good portion of the season without Bourn’s help. Pitching has to be priority number one. We came into this season thinking we had plenty and look at us now.
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
4:40 pm
Arkansas Transplant
call me skeptical on Cunningham, I have a friend who see’s him play in person and think’s he’s having a flukey year, has never been impressed with him in the field or at the plate.
But, if no situation presents itself, he might get a sot in spring training to win the job….
Trey
July 3rd, 2012
4:40 pm
Good. I hope we do get rid of Minor, if we can bring Greinke here.
Heisenberg
July 3rd, 2012
4:40 pm
Thanks for the look NickB. Maybe it was someone else that did an inning or 2 of emergemcy fill in late last year.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
4:40 pm
Willingham will probably be an overpay, they don’t want to trade him away. Plus, he’s 33 yrs old.
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
4:41 pm
And I’ll add Hanson, Hudson, and Kimbrel to that list.
ChattTownBrian
July 3rd, 2012
4:41 pm
Wow Volstad is awful. Just read his numbers. We don’t hit him then it’s clear guys are really pressing. We need a “pressing coach/therapist”. Braves have been known to collapse because of this “pressing” disease.
Lew
July 3rd, 2012
4:42 pm
Whatever. I bet I’m a lot closer to what will happen than most of y’all are. Guess we’ll just see.
You think I’m living in a fantasy world? Not even close to those who believe Grienke’s coming here for nothing to the Brewers and for $13-15 million a year or that a couple of AA players next year in the ourfield truly make us any better than we are now.
Heisenberg
July 3rd, 2012
4:43 pm
Count me among those who would rather spend money on Bourn than a pitcher. Unless maybe just maybe that pitcher is Cole Hamels.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
4:43 pm
I mean, if you’re gonna bring in Liriano as your only pitcher traded for, you may as just let Minor learn himself out of his struggles. Liriano isn’t a difference maker.
Jessica
July 3rd, 2012
4:43 pm
‘82 Baby Blue Fest…..Awesome! Spending a day with Murph, Niekro, Horner…count me in!
82babybluefest.com
Arkansas Transplant
July 3rd, 2012
4:46 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan, neither is Dempster a difference maker.. the guy always on the DL. Can’t make a difference from there. And I’m not too high on Garza, that would be too much of a price to bring him here and not enough return.
Heisenberg
July 3rd, 2012
4:46 pm
“Wow Volstad is awful. Just read his numbers”
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Just like Smardja (mispelled) had been stinking it up lately, Braves bats are slump-busters for pitchers.
VaBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
4:47 pm
Trading for Grienke and doing a long term deal would really make it hard for the Braves to improve the lineup. There is always the option trade trade for help that fits the budget but that would mean surrendering even more prospects. Plus we have to think down the line about other players.
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
4:47 pm
hamels will get $23mill a year from the Yankees
If the Braves get Greinke, you can probably expect them to mak every attempt to sign him. IF he signs what I expect (5 years $85 mill) that would leave them enough money to sign an OF’er like Swisher or Quentin, and then trade for a CF’er , like Bourjos or whomever.
still would leave money to fix the pen and the bench too….
ChattTownBrian
July 3rd, 2012
4:47 pm
Y’all see Dale Murphy after last nights game say we should win these next three games looking at the Cubs AND the fact they have an unbelievably bad road record? He was holding some other words back it looked. Like it is almost pitiful if you can’t really hurt this team in your own park.
Fredi has no feel for the game. Completely agree with that poster who wrote that yesterday. Simple, but perfectly said.
Lew
July 3rd, 2012
4:47 pm
There is no one difference maker out there who will fill all of our needs now,next year and going forward. If you truly believe there is you’re just wrong.
Right now we need bench help, pitching – both starting and relieving and next year, we’ll need pitching (at least until Viz and Beachy return, though BB will probably not contribute much next year). the bench will need revamping, the pen revamping and two thirds of an outfield.
I just don’t see Grienke providing all of this and I DO see his salary making much of those needs unfillable by anyone better than we already have.
ncgary
July 3rd, 2012
4:48 pm
i agree lew liriano and spann make probably the most sense or if they could get greinke at 13 million and spann seperately , id go that route too
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
4:49 pm
Not even close to those who believe Grienke’s coming here for nothing to the Brewers and for $13-15 million a year
I don’t think he’s coming here for nothing. We either trade 1 of our big 3 or we give up our 1st rd pick for next year to get him. I don’t know if he’ll take just 13-15 mil a year, but I’m sure it won’t be 20+mil. That’s big market money and he doesn’t want to play in those cities.
a couple of AA players next year in the ourfield truly make us any better than we are now.
I don’t think it will make us better, but look at the FA outfielders for this year. Outside of Bourn, Ross, and Melky (who many don’t seem to want back), the pool isn’t very good. It might be best to use our minor leaguers rather than pay for these major leaguers who sukk.
Lew
July 3rd, 2012
4:49 pm
Who do you trade for an outfielder if you already traded them to get Grienke?
Lew
July 3rd, 2012
4:50 pm
If they aren’t going to make us better than we already lost, didn’t we?
cabravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
4:50 pm
Add the Cardinals to the list of teams looking for pitchers…Chris Carpenter done:
Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN
We’ll find out if the news of Chris Carpenter’s season-ending surgery will now push the Cardinals into acquiring pitching before Aug. 1.
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
4:51 pm
I wonder if the Braves know something we don’t about Hudson’s future with the team. Like maybe he is going to retire after this season, thus giving them $9 mill more to work with than we expect?
His ankles are killing him, and he may not feel like having ANOTHER surgery and then re-habbing and all that…
ncbravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
4:51 pm
Volstad will go 6 or 7 innings, give up 2 runs or less, and strike out 8 or 9. Take it to the bank.
bulldozer
July 3rd, 2012
4:52 pm
How about this trade:
Brewers Receive:
-LHP Sean Gilmartin
-RHP J.R. Graham
-1 of these 3 (Aaron Northcraft, David Filak, Navery Moore)
Braves Receive:
-RHP Zack Greinke
*And the Braves can agree to add in 3B Brandon Drury if the brewers are willing to include salary relief on a longterm extension.
VaBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
4:52 pm
NickB
I think your misunderstanding the estimated money coming off the books. While we have for sure 39 million coming off with another possible 8 mil more (EOF/JJ) Don’t forget to factor in ARB raises.
Brave New World
July 3rd, 2012
4:52 pm
If we do get Greinke, it must be stipulated in his contract that he cannot read any of these Braves blogs (under any circumstance). With his anxiety issues, the haters would send him to the DL in no time.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
4:52 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan, neither is Dempster a difference maker.. the guy always on the DL. Can’t make a difference from there. And I’m not too high on Garza, that would be too much of a price to bring him here and not enough return.
Agree on Dempster. Might be nice as a #4 (moving Delgado to 5), but he alone isn’t winning us the division. Same with Garza, (see him as a #2-3) I don’t want him.
Guys, you realize that it’s Denard Span and not Warren Spahn, right? Denard Span isn’t that great.
ChattTownBrian
July 3rd, 2012
4:53 pm
Lew, right/wrong, it doesn’t matter. Braves chances of reaching the postseason is automatically slim because the team is run by a manager who single handedly can and will lose his team games. Even my wife was yelling for Hanson to get out of the game after those two rockets were hit back at his red headed ass and she still sometimes calls a homerun a touchdown. FG has observed these guys for over a year and he still can’t do things correctly.
Lew
July 3rd, 2012
4:53 pm
NickB – Now Hudson is a wild card we haven’t thought of. Not picking up his option would save us some bcuks and MIGHT make a Gienke acquistion somewhat easier – but would likely mean we needed yet another pitcher.
Any word on Vizcaino’s rehab?
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
4:54 pm
TOBF
Ross isn’t much on CF anymore, but there will be plenty of trade options like Span(meh) Bourjos(who I prefer)
Plus there’s Victorino(will cost less than Bourn), Pagan and a few others who are serviceable
I reckon, CF will end up fine, what I am interested to see is does the team go for 3B and leave Prado in left? or go for LF and move him back to 3rd?
Lew
July 3rd, 2012
4:54 pm
CTB – Whatever.
cricket
July 3rd, 2012
4:54 pm
i would take over that hudson comes back next year
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
4:54 pm
bulldozer: I would like that trade, but I’m sure the Brewers would want more than that…
Murph
July 3rd, 2012
4:55 pm
there will be enough money to sign Greinke then trade for a young CF’er AND STILL be active in the corner OF/3B market.
You’re going to have to show your work on that last bit… seems to me that signing Greinke will leave the team at least $5mil over budget, before any move for two of CF/LF/3B is even made.
Heisenberg
July 3rd, 2012
4:56 pm
Cleaning out some bones spurs is not like rehabbing from TJ or back surgery, so I could see Huddy opting to get it done. Whether or not that has any bearing on Huddy pitching for Braves in 13 is a whole other matter. IMHO a healthy Huddy is worth another 3 years at 21-24 million.
bulldozer
July 3rd, 2012
4:57 pm
theonlybravesfan: alright trade teheran instead of graham.
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
4:57 pm
Who do you trade for an outfielder if you already traded them to get Grienke?
This is what I’m not getting. Say Wren decides(I won’t agree with it) to trade Delgado and say, Nick Ahmed for 2 months of Zack Greinke.
We will still have the following trade assets and lots of money to spend heading into the winter: Mike Minor, Sean Gilmartin, Kris Medlen, Eric O’Flaherty, Julio Teheran, Zeke Spruill, J.R. Graham, Cody Martin, Matt Lipka, Todd Cunningham, Kyle Kubitza….
Not saying these guys will get you anything you want, but there will be deals for a package of these guys – not including Teheran.
If they are going all-in, go….all…..in. Half arse, ain’t worth it.
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
4:58 pm
arb rasies will prolly total 8 Mill, but if JJ goes, that may drop about $1.5 and Mac’s salary is already $13 mill due to his incentives so he gets no raise.
Since I totally think JJ is gone after this year, there is another option, perhaps Huddy has the surgery and the Braves decline the option but give him a 2 year contract worth $6 mill a season…. saving $3 mill for 2013
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
4:59 pm
I wonder if the Braves know something we don’t about Hudson’s future with the team. Like maybe he is going to retire after this season, thus giving them $9 mill more to work with than we expect? His ankles are killing him, and he may not feel like having ANOTHER surgery and then re-habbing and all that…
Interesting thoughts, I expect him to come back next year though. Would like to give him a 2yr deal 5-7 mil with an option for the 2nd year….
TOBF
Ross isn’t much on CF anymore, but there will be plenty of trade options like Span(meh) Bourjos(who I prefer)
I was thinking if we got Ross, stick him in LF and we find ourselves a CF (Cunningham maybe, or Pagan, someone “cheap”). Buorjos is nice, but I hear his bat is too light. Angels probably would give him up though, they have too many outfielders as it is…
cricket
July 3rd, 2012
4:59 pm
see the people who let shaun know when to breath in and when to breath out -
http://aarongleeman.com/2012/07/03/2012-sabr-convention-recap/
Lew
July 3rd, 2012
4:59 pm
Murph – I’m still not certain where they think we’ll get trade bait for both Grienke AND a centerfielder.
Maybe we could trade Minor twice? Or just trade away MInor, Delfado, Teheran, Betancourt and whoever else anyone wants thrown in.
Preston Hannatized
July 3rd, 2012
4:59 pm
Must win tonight … Greinke – by most accounts – wants to go to a team with a chance to win. Grienke is familiar with the Cubs and knows how bad they are. If the Braves cannot beat the Cubs with Volstad starting, Greinke’s thoughts about how close the Braves are to winning will have to be readjusted.
VaBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
4:59 pm
The Braves could surprise us all and decline Huddy’s option… Freeing up 8 million (1 mil is for buyout)
Also have to figure Jurrjens isn’t in the plan, traded or non-tendered saves 5.5 mil, plus EOF will likely be gone as well freeing up another 2.5 million.
So if those 3 are removed that’s 16 million free’d up to go with the 39 million already free’d up. So 55 million would be the number before ARB raises.
Murph
July 3rd, 2012
5:00 pm
IMHO a healthy Huddy is worth another 3 years at 21-24 million.
Let’s see how he does in 2013 first and then go from there.
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
5:01 pm
And these three too: Aaron Northcraft, David Filak, Navery Moore.
Again, not saying this is great. But it’s probably enough to put together a decent package for an outfielder through trade(all the guys I listed as potentials) and another through free agency.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
5:01 pm
theonlybravesfan: alright trade teheran instead of graham.
Uggg, no… I’d only do Teheran if it was Teheran and maybe a position prospect for Greinke, an extension, and Khris Davis. I’m not giving up Teheran that easily.
unbelievable
July 3rd, 2012
5:01 pm
Id rather have Huddy at $9 instead of paying the buyout and trying to find his replacement with the remaining $8
VaBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
5:02 pm
Hanson could be a guy who see’s around 3 million in his 1st year of ARB, Prado will likely get a 2 million raise. Heyward, Medlen, Venters will all at least double in salary most likey more for Heyward.
bulldogbubba
July 3rd, 2012
5:02 pm
Is Denny Neagle or Charlie Leibrandt available? Maybe Len Barker?
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
5:03 pm
VA Bravesfan
let us assume there is $55 mill
remove $12 mill for arb and raises (going to play it on the high end of the scale)
then pay Greinke $17 mill
leaves $26 mill for LF/3B , CF and the bench/pen
that should be plenty of money to fill all of those positions very well
Dawg '88
July 3rd, 2012
5:03 pm
Vote for Chipper to be in his final All Star Game:
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/all_star/y2012/fv/ballot.jsp
Screwball
July 3rd, 2012
5:03 pm
The Coors Light Freeze Frame shot of the night should have been Roger McDowell returning to the dugout after his inspirational chat with Hanson, bases loaded, not to worry, number 8 hitter up here, go get’m Red. First pitch bases cleared. Roger McDowell, the winning way.
Dawg '88
July 3rd, 2012
5:03 pm
Vote for Chipper to be in his final All Star Game:
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/all_star/y2012/fv/ballot.jsp
bulldozer
July 3rd, 2012
5:03 pm
How about this trade:
Padres Receive:
-3B Edward Salcedo
-RHP Cody Martin
-LHP Mike Minor
Braves Receive:
-3B Chase Headley
*Minor would benefit from the large confines of petco, as would headley from a move to a more hitter-friendly venue
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
5:03 pm
The Braves could surprise us all and decline Huddy’s option… Freeing up 8 million (1 mil is for buyout)
That doesn’t make any sense at all. You aren’t getting Hudson for 9 million out on the market, I don’t care how old he is.
Lew
July 3rd, 2012
5:03 pm
EFrim – Yes, we could get a return for these players, but as it is, we’d have to replace MInor, O’Flaherty and Medlen and would have pretty well nothing left in the minors except the Kids we just drafted. All in is right – that would pretty much take care of the minors.
Ralph
July 3rd, 2012
5:04 pm
Everybody keeps talking about pitching when hitting is the main problem, if we picked up a couple bats pitching would take care of its self.
Heisenberg
July 3rd, 2012
5:04 pm
Hudson has an option for 2013? My bad thought he was FA after this season.
Woody Woodward
July 3rd, 2012
5:04 pm
Its premature to assume jj is gone. He’s with us for the rest of the season. If his poor start was simply a matter of a failure rehab and he gets progressively stronger, he’s an asset.
If we look at this year compared to last, our most glaring weakness is the lack of consistent starting pitching. Speaking of, I wouldn’t count on Hudson to finish the year.
(Rob from SC)
July 3rd, 2012
5:05 pm
I like Zack Greinke, but we are not one pitcher away from being serious World Series Contenders. Maybe the smartest thing to do is acquire an expiring contract like Liriano and/or Dempster and make a run at Greinke in the offseason.
We have three great young players in Heyward, Simmons, and Freeman to build around. We also have Teheran and Delgado who need more time, but are very promising.
Woody Woodward
July 3rd, 2012
5:05 pm
Its premature to assume jj is gone. He’s with us for the rest of the season. If his poor start was simply a matter of a les than complete rehab and he gets progressively stronger, he’s an asset.
If we look at this year compared to last, our most glaring weakness is the lack of consistent starting pitching. Speaking of, I wouldn’t count on Hudson to finish the year.
cricket
July 3rd, 2012
5:05 pm
no way hudson’s option is not picked up
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/03/sports/baseball/major-league-baseball-wants-more-money-from-tv-contracts.html?_r=2&smid=tw-share
Arkansas Transplant
July 3rd, 2012
5:06 pm
Oh, I think we have plenty of trade bait to go around to fill any holes we may have.
Woody Woodward
July 3rd, 2012
5:07 pm
Sorry for the daily double
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
5:07 pm
All in is right – that would pretty much take care of the minors.
Keep drafting well and it’ll get better down there. 2012 was a good start. There are times where you need to assess what the minors and major league roster is at – I wouldn’t miss ANY of the prospects Low-A and up aside from Teheran and Vizcaino(whose hurt). This isn’t like the years when we had Heyward, Freeman, Hanson, Teheran, Delgado, Kimbrel down in the Low minors coming up and every team was asking for them. Those guys were worth holding onto. Not seeing that sort of talent Low-A and above. Not close, actually.
VaBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
5:07 pm
Cutting ties with Huddy, EOF, and Jurrjens after this season would make sense if the Braves wanted to keep Grienke long term and still be able to improve the offense.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
5:07 pm
How about this trade:
Padres Receive:
-3B Edward Salcedo
-RHP Cody Martin
-LHP Mike Minor
Braves Receive:
-3B Chase Headley
Sounds good. I personally would take out Martin, but that’s just nitpicking. Seems pretty fair.
cricket
July 3rd, 2012
5:08 pm
acquire expiring contract? braves need to free up cap space?
Woody Woodward
July 3rd, 2012
5:08 pm
Huddys a natural in the booth, cricket
WTF - the original
July 3rd, 2012
5:08 pm
Too bad Andy’s last ‘gig’ was shilling for Obamacare. Left a bad taste in my mouth. Course, he coulda known he was goin’ out and did it for his heirs. Hope the DNC paid him well.
Not enough money – even after QEII – to buy that kind of crud from me.
So long Andy. And on a baseball note, we only have a little over a month til the LLWS starts and we can see some good baseball.
brian
July 3rd, 2012
5:09 pm
I would love to see the Braves go to pitching and defense as priorities along with our top young players.
I would, at this time thinking for the future, plan on Heyward, Freeman, and Simmons being here long term. Uggla still has his years on his contract and is likely going no where though if defense falters I would not hesistate to move him to LF if we had a top young 2B. Pitchers – Beachy and Kimbrel.
Trying to plan a team for 2014 and beyond is tough. We will have to keep the youth movement going. I don’t see how McCann will stay a Brave long term based on his performance over this season and the end of last season along with his expected contract number and decline expected for a catcher. He should be traded for prospects while his value is high. I would love to see Bourn extended – defense, speed, leadoff hitter. 3B will be Prado next year but cost will determine if he is the answer for 3-5 years. We will still need a LF – love for it to be cunningham or gattis or the Terd or Salcedo. Of course if we do pull the trigger for Willingham he will be in the final year of his contract in 2014
2014
C- Bethancourt
1B – Freeman
2B – Uggla
SS – Simmons
3B – Prado versus young prospect
LF – ???? Willingham or Cunningham versus Gattis versus Terd versus trade versus FA sign
CF – Bourn versus Bourjos versus Cunningham
RF – Heyward
Rotation –
1. Greinke?? versus another #1
2. Beachy
3. Teheran versus Delgado
4. Gilmartin versus Minor
5. Spruill??
expecting at least one if not 2 of Teheran, Delgado, Minor, Gilmartin to be traded. If just one traded then the other 3 would be 3-5. I would be surprised if Hanson is here long term. Hudson will be gone by then. I would be absolutely floored if Jurrjens is still here in 2014.
Lots of questions but fun to think about. Frank Wren wants to win now but the good thing with the Braves is that he does consider the future as well with his moves
Lew
July 3rd, 2012
5:09 pm
EFrim – I see your point, but conversely, if the farm is as weak as you claim (and I’m not doubting you), then they aren’t going to bring much of anything in return.
cricket
July 3rd, 2012
5:09 pm
Last night, with Dan Uggla at the plate, Starlin Castro fielded a grounder and appeared to lollygag the throw to first baseman Anthony Rizzo. Uggla, not the fastest man around — and maybe not even the fastest man named Uggla in Georgia — was safe with an infield single.
After the inning was over, manager Dale Sveum got in Castro’s face to yell at him for, once again, making a mental mistake. Except when it was all over, Sveum was apologizing to Castro. Thanks to Rizzo intervening. Here’s Sveuem:
“It was one of those things where I apologized to Castro afterward,” Sveum said. “Rizzo came to his rescue right away and said, ‘Skip, that was my fault. I just told him to give me time.’
And here’s Rizzo:
“I took full blame for it – it’s my fault,” said Rizzo, who was on a defensive shift for that at-bat. “I told him before that to give me a little time, and that’s just me not knowing Uggla’s speed. I thought I had time to get there. I busted there right away, but he just beat the throw … “I want Castro to feel comfortable with any play,” Rizzo said. “Any throw he wants to make, I’ll be there to catch it. If I miss that pick, it’s my fault.”
Beck
July 3rd, 2012
5:09 pm
“Why would the Braves call up Constanza?” Ummm…because they win when he’s in the lineup? Oh I forgot. Most folks on this board are tickled to death with the status quo. We like our slow-footed, iron-glove no-impact Braves – archie
Unless I am missing something here, who would Constanza replace? Not Bourne, Heyward, or Prado, who rank 2, 3, and 4 in WAR among NL outfielders. Also, the three also lead the team in stolen bases, so they aren’t slow footed. Plus, Constanza doesn’t play catcher, first, second or third.
Now, I am going to assume that you are suggesting that Prado be moved out of the outfield and into the infield. Where does he go? 3rd base? It makes sense when Chipper is resting or injured, but Prado isn’t going to take his spot everyday if Chipper is healthy. You aren’t going to sit Freeman or Uggla on a consistent basis, especially considering that Freddie is heating up, and Uggla, while slumping, still has an OBP in the 360s.
Ralph
July 3rd, 2012
5:10 pm
Hudson has an option for 2013? My bad thought he was FA after this season.
Braves have an option on Hudson, he does not have an option
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
5:10 pm
Its premature to assume jj is gone. He’s with us for the rest of the season.
If we look at this year compared to last, our most glaring weakness is the lack of consistent starting pitching. Speaking of, I wouldn’t count on Hudson to finish the year.
Agree with you. I think Beachy’s injury has opened a window for JJ to prove himself and get a chance to be back next year. Don’t see him here in 2014 though…. Just wondering, what would he get paid, near 7 mil? Too much IMO… even if he’s good.
As for Huddy, I told my dad last night, I think the guy might need to take some rest in August/September. He’s gotta be in lots of pain.
(Rob from SC)
July 3rd, 2012
5:10 pm
I think the Braves should make some internal moves. They should DFA Jack Wilson and call up Tyler Pastornicky. They should also call up Meija
Heisenberg
July 3rd, 2012
5:11 pm
“acquire expiring contract? braves need to free up cap space?”
************************
My thoughts exactly. Maybe bring in Dwight Howard to play LF.
Arkansas Transplant
July 3rd, 2012
5:12 pm
I say we trade for Greinke now, that still gives us 3 weeks to evaluate. We might even fall out of contention meaning we could always trade him by July 31st. But you can’t do that if you don’t act quick.
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
5:12 pm
my statement about Huddy is more about HIM maybe wanting to retire if he requires yet another surgery to keep playing….
Plus, there is the chance IF he does require surgery, that the Braves decline the option, but follow it up with a 2 year deal for less per season.
just throwing spitballs here folks
Lil' Barry Bailout (Unexpectedly Revised Downward - Again)
July 3rd, 2012
5:13 pm
Danny Ferry just traded Mike Minor to New Jersey.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
5:14 pm
Cutting ties with Huddy, EOF, and Jurrjens after this season would make sense if the Braves wanted to keep Grienke long term and still be able to improve the offense
Seems like that would, but I’d love to see Huddy and EOF next year. Unfortunately EOF may be a casualty of his high arb price.
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
5:14 pm
Beck
the pro Constanza people just pick out whichever player is a slump, say that we move Prado to that position, then say we put Constanza back in left cuz, ya know, he’s really Josh Hamilton in disguise
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
5:15 pm
TOBF
EOF could push $4 mill in arb and that’s too much for a pen arm that isn’t Kimbrel dominant
SMOLTZ 29
July 3rd, 2012
5:16 pm
McCann should sit and watch for a while, he’s hitting under .100 with 2 outs and runners in scoring position! Hasn’t been right since the oblique injury last summer! MERCY
Trader Jack
July 3rd, 2012
5:17 pm
What concerns me most about Grienke are his home/away splits.
Home 51-28 (He’s never lost at Miller Park)
Away 34-47
Coming into the NL East and having to pitch in DC, Philly and NY with regularity, against those fans, I just don’t know.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
5:17 pm
Plus, there is the chance IF he does require surgery, that the Braves decline the option, but follow it up with a 2 year deal for less per season.
Would like that…. at the very least, if we have too many starters for 2014, he can come out of the ‘pen and not be too overpriced.
Woody Woodward
July 3rd, 2012
5:18 pm
The board will turn back to ugglas favor once he gets on a streak. And he will. Not his greatest fan, but got to think that we knew what we were getting when we acquired him.
I know there’s no way we trade Uggla, but just for conversation’s sake, are we a weaker team without him?
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
5:19 pm
EOF could push $4 mill in arb and that’s too much for a pen arm that isn’t Kimbrel dominant
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
5:14 pm
I’d love to see Huddy and EOF next year. Unfortunately EOF may be a casualty of his high arb price.
jeffrey d
July 3rd, 2012
5:22 pm
Easy pal, no need to yell
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
5:22 pm
EFrim – I see your point, but conversely, if the farm is as weak as you claim (and I’m not doubting you), then they aren’t going to bring much of anything in return.
Bulk prospect packages will bring you more, buy the individual talent isn’t as strong as it used to be. Gilmartin can slide into a bigeague rotation next year – there is value in that.
Ralph
July 3rd, 2012
5:24 pm
I vote NO on Grienke, get us a bat.
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
5:24 pm
TOBF
I wasn’t arguing with you, was saying “yep, I agree!”
Woody Woodward
July 3rd, 2012
5:26 pm
I can see Varvaro slipping into EOF’s role.
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
5:26 pm
Trader Jack
you shouldn’t use won/loss record to gauge a pitchers home away splits, look at what his ERA is versus how many runs of support he gets home and away
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
5:27 pm
Ah ok Nick
I can see Varvaro slipping into EOF’s role.
Maybe…. he’s been decent, hope he gets better.
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
5:27 pm
DOB, saw your Teheran tweet about you not being impressed to date. Just gotta remember ta
that he was 20 during his 2011 starts and just turned 21 in Jan. One of the younger players in Triple – A.
Not like Minor, who is more than 3 years older….
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
5:28 pm
Varvaro has the capability to be like EOF, after all, both were claimed off waivers from Seattle.
Lew
July 3rd, 2012
5:28 pm
Woody – Varvaro is RH, EOF a Lefty.
Rick
July 3rd, 2012
5:29 pm
Ralph, and what position would they play?
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
5:30 pm
Lew
well that would make a difference if EOF was only a LOOGY , but he faces both sides of the plate setting up the 7th or 8th, that’s not really hand dependent
Trader Jack
July 3rd, 2012
5:32 pm
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
5:26 pm
Trader Jack
you shouldn’t use won/loss record to gauge a pitchers home away splits, look at what his ERA is versus how many runs of support he gets home and away
I did and it is reflective of his record. I don’t feel the need to list all stats, others can check for themselves to verify.
Lew
July 3rd, 2012
5:32 pm
NIck B – I’d still replace him with another LHRP – he has been used in matchups, too.
Bat Masterson
July 3rd, 2012
5:33 pm
arb rasies will prolly total 8 Mill, but if JJ goes, that may drop about $1.5 and Mac’s salary is already $13 mill due to his incentives so he gets no raise.
The Braves have 8 arb players for next year. How do you arrive at $8mm?
I think Heyward, Prado and Hanson burn at least $8mm in raises.
Roja
July 3rd, 2012
5:33 pm
We paid Kenshen Kawakami $8 mil a year to play in Mississippi so $20 mil a year seems CHEAP for Major League pitcher!!
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
5:34 pm
Lew: So what? He can find another lefty. Or Medlen could be the lefty specialist… he has better numbers against lefties than righties…
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
5:35 pm
Let’s hope Jurrjens brings the whiskey tonight and the bats vote no on amendment 18!
Woody Woodward
July 3rd, 2012
5:35 pm
Lew–venters is a lefty, too. Not sure that righty or lefty makes all that much difference in the late innings. Are you saying we would have a shortage of lefties without EOF? I care more about the role of late inning relief. Just think that Varvaro could be effective in that role.
Also think that venters might be interesting trade bait in the off season.
Lew
July 3rd, 2012
5:35 pm
Especially if Venters remains as ineffective as he’s been.
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
5:35 pm
Bat
yeah i forgot two guys, later on I adjusted it to $12 mill
Frankie Wren
July 3rd, 2012
5:35 pm
Rival official says team is “souring” on Yunel Escobar and might be traded at deadline. LMAO. But he has SO much talent, how can anybody give up on him?
Seattle Braves
July 3rd, 2012
5:36 pm
Grienke gives us the rotation we should have had this year. Beachy out with tommy john, JJ finally getting his knee corrected so he can pitch, and Minor and Delgado being the NL Punching bag. We could use a really good pitcher. Huddy to retire in 2 years, Um Bop Hanson cant do it alone.
SO YES TO GRIENKE. Would be a smart move to trade and sign a 5 year deal for 80 million.
richbrave
July 3rd, 2012
5:36 pm
DOWN ON THE FARM
GCL – ORLANDO
RHRP PETE MOYLAN duplicates his work of day before yesterday. but the Rookies fall 4-6 to the PHYLTHIES
RHRP PETER MOYLAN [0.00 ERA] 1.0 IP, 1 H, zeros, 1 SO.
RHSP 22nd round SHAE SIMMONS [0.00 ERA] 2.0 IP, no-hits, 1 BB, 2 SO.
RHRP 29th round JADEN DILLON [H 1, 3.86 ERA] 2.0 IP, 3 H,1 HR, 2 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 1 SO.
RHRP 2006 3rd round CHAD RODGERS [BS 1, L 0-2, 12.00 ERA] 0.2 IP, 1 H, 4 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 1 SO
RHRP 2010 14th round RICHIE TATE {0.00 ERA] 2.1 IP, pristine, 2 SO.
RHRP 2012 Independent League DONOVAN DRAKE [0.00 ERA] 1.0 IP, pristine, 1 SO.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
5:36 pm
Flande can be our left-handed reliever next year, he almost made the team this year
cowdogit
July 3rd, 2012
5:37 pm
Pastornicky will not be called up” He’s way to fast, Fredi prefers fat slow guys like Hinske and Francisco. Looks like without Canstanza the braves will go from first to worst. Fredi doesn’t have the power to take Chipper out of the lineup,only his boss,Bobby Cox has that power.
Lew
July 3rd, 2012
5:39 pm
Woody – Seriously? You don’t think it’s important to have pitchers to match up in the later innings? Not every LHRP can pitch to RH hitters like EOF and Venters (when he’s actually on and he’s not now) do? And do you want Peter Moylan facing LH hitters in the late innings?
richbrave
July 3rd, 2012
5:39 pm
Frankie Wren
July 3rd, 2012
5:35 pm
Rival official says team is “souring” on Yunel Escobar and might be traded at deadline. LMAO. But he has SO much talent, how can anybody give up on him?
Judt have to laugh. Thought he’d be an absolute hard-head. Thought so from the first words out of his mouth here in RICHMOND all those years ago.
Rick
July 3rd, 2012
5:39 pm
Oh god not more of this Constanza over Chipper bs again…
Seattle Braves
July 3rd, 2012
5:40 pm
Ben Sheets = Gamble. Livan made the club, so I guess anything is possible.
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
5:40 pm
i wish we could block people who’s posts we are sick of seeing over and over (cough cough constanza people)
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
5:41 pm
Ben Sheets= gambling with house money
Lew
July 3rd, 2012
5:43 pm
Re: Flande – not so sure Id throw him into the mix because of an early spring training performance. He’s been OK at AAA, but hardly exemplary. And according to BaseballCube, he’s on a one year contract. Not so sure if they even have contractual control over him next year. I’m certainly not sure that he’ll be anywhere near as effective as EOF or Venters have been. He’s a totally uproven player.
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
5:44 pm
bullpens are so prone to chaos that really the best a GM can do is go by past history and hope for the best, cuz a guy can be lights out one year, terrible the next, then back to lights out again the following year…
Lew
July 3rd, 2012
5:46 pm
Sheets was signed to a minor league contract – not sure how that can possibly be detrimental in the least. He either comes in and pitches well or goes back to where he came from and we spent diddly to find out. Very low risk high reward signing.
Woody Woodward
July 3rd, 2012
5:46 pm
Lew–I’d err toward the guy who go a full seventh inning, which has been fredi’s preference, though heh as been tinkering with the lefty righty thing with EOF of late. I realize the sample is small, but Vavaro’s numbers have been better against LH hitters. Just like the way he’s pitched…he’s got promise.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
5:47 pm
Lew: When then Medlen. He’s much better against lefties than righties (because of his changeup)
Dreading the trade deadline
July 3rd, 2012
5:48 pm
Hooray for Chipper! 8-time All Star!
Lew
July 3rd, 2012
5:50 pm
Only BRaves – Still going to need a LHRP or two. And right now, I:m not so certain that Medlen is all that effective against anyone.
(Rob from SC)
July 3rd, 2012
5:50 pm
Then Chipper vote is not final
Hanson Not Losing Sleep
July 3rd, 2012
5:50 pm
Bargain Bin Alert! The kind of pitchers the Braves like!
Bobby Jenks released by the Red Sox and Brian Fuentes DFA by the A’s!
Wren better hurry! I bet these guys have a combined 24 pitches left in their arms!
unbelievable
July 3rd, 2012
5:52 pm
Rob – Chipper is replacing Kemp, already named to the roster.
BravesfaninWis
July 3rd, 2012
5:52 pm
ChattTownBrian,
We are not a playoff team this year despite being 3 games over .500 and 4-5 games behind in the division. This team won’t be there next year either. They have shown us all what they are about and its not much. This team for whatever reason just is not good enough to be a playoff team. They can’t even beat the teams in their own division, if you can’t do that, you don’t deserve to be in the playoffs. This team has no direction, no heart, and a worthless ownership group. Why go out and get more expensive players when all they are going to do is lose anyways? May as well keep your farm system the way it is and lose but save some money in the process. This team is just great at letting their entire fan base down.
Hanson Not Losing Sleep
July 3rd, 2012
5:52 pm
Chipper named to replace Matt Kemp
Lew
July 3rd, 2012
5:52 pm
Look – They’re just not going to imit the LH presence in the pen to Venters who usually pitches a full inning. They WILL have situational LHRPer/s.
Rick
July 3rd, 2012
5:53 pm
Sweet now I can put in more votes for Bourn.
Wow
July 3rd, 2012
5:56 pm
With how poor the NL is this season, if the Braves can’t somehow get into the playoffs, then they’re sure as heck aren’t going to next season. So stop with the “WAIT UNTIL NEXT SEASON!!” stuff.
BravesfaninWis
July 3rd, 2012
5:57 pm
Also, as much as I hate to say it, Chipper Jones doesn’t deserve to be a All Star, sorry. The guy plays half a season and he gets to recognized as one of the best? Those were pure sympathy votes. That is supposed to be a game where guys who play all the time and earn their spots play, not a guy that is always on the DL, and taking all kinds of games off and not there to be counted on to help his team. I love Chipper and always will, but he doesn’t deserve to be a All Star, imo.
Heisenberg
July 3rd, 2012
5:58 pm
So Chipper will play CF in AS game? LOL
Gotta go bye.
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
6:00 pm
BFW
it’s prolly a good thing nobody gives a crap what yer Debby Downer self thinks than isn’t it?
Lew
July 3rd, 2012
6:01 pm
It’s not the first time that Retiring players with ecellent Career credentials were added to the All STar roster to pay tribute to their entire careers. If someone like Jeter were retiring, I’d be willing to bet that the Commish would already have added them both above and beyond the regular roster. kind of like they did with Ripken Jr and Gwynn.
Not a damned thing wrong with honoring a retiring player with CHipper’s career on his final go around. Besides – you think it was only Braves fans who had him leading the voting?
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
6:02 pm
’ve said we should move Prado to 2nd to make room for Constanza in left….Mark
and then had the cojones to say it again in front of God and everybody
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
6:02 pm
Chipper named to replace Matt Kemp
Sweet! Let’s get Bourn out of the hole, last I saw, he was last…
Voting for Bourn with kempisasissy@hotmail.com and bourndeservesthis@hotmail.com
brian
July 3rd, 2012
6:04 pm
if Sheets pitches well do you try and sign him to a 1 year contract in the offseason???
Capt.Mudd
July 3rd, 2012
6:04 pm
Warning….I already have ‘brown’ on my nose [B-day cake--son] and am not vying to add more……however, thank you D.O.B. for the new blog…….and congrats Chipper.
LakeDawg
July 3rd, 2012
6:05 pm
The Braves are facing a minor league pitcher tonight. Chalk this one up as a loss. Gawd! The Braves sure do suck.
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
6:06 pm
lakedawg
you know, there are remedies for removing sand from vaginas
SNEAKY PETE
July 3rd, 2012
6:07 pm
anybody with dawg in their name is obviously a football mentality baseball ignorant numbletard.
Capt.Mudd
July 3rd, 2012
6:08 pm
Cojones…..is that being and acting just like Chipper?
Gustopher
July 3rd, 2012
6:09 pm
Great blog Carroll. Nice to hear that Chipper is going to KC
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
6:09 pm
mudd
lol!!!
“I’m Chipper and here is my cojones, Andruw”
uga-brave
July 3rd, 2012
6:10 pm
would not be shocked if the braves go <.500 in these last six that fredo is sacked and they give TP a shot.
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
6:10 pm
yuk yuk yuk
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
6:11 pm
you should be surprised Uga
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
6:13 pm
if they really went to college, you’d thing they would know that it is spelled DOG
uga-brave
July 3rd, 2012
6:14 pm
at least he has a pulse.
uga-brave
July 3rd, 2012
6:15 pm
it is pouring in north buckhead.
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
6:16 pm
My choice to manage (if they went in house for an interim) would be Eddie Perez, players like him, he’s upbeat and light hearted, and he knows the pitching really,really well
Capt.Mudd
July 3rd, 2012
6:16 pm
@NickB…..Are you co-signing my co-jones link……..please include Shirley; of the Partridge Family–back in the day……she was a real ‘hottie.’ [read: Shirley Jones].
Ralph
July 3rd, 2012
6:17 pm
Rick
July 3rd, 2012
5:29 pm
, one where
Ralph, and what position would they play?
Well you have a good point but I would like to see a much stronger bench, one where we could put Prado on 3B as his primary position and use Chipper as our main pinch hitter, he is hurting us on defense, A good power outfielder would be very helpful, maybe Gattis once he gets healthy again.
Brava
July 3rd, 2012
6:17 pm
Let’s get Mikey to the All Star Game! Vote Bourn! Vote often!
DAM
July 3rd, 2012
6:17 pm
I can’t quite figure out why some are opposed to replacing Jack Wilson with Pastornicky. Pastornicky is probably going to be nothing more than a super-utility guy in the long run, right? So putting him on the roster now and limiting his at-bats probably isn’t the end of the world. We all agree that we don’t really need Jack Wilson for his defense anymore since Uggla hardly ever sits and since Simmons’ defense is better, anyway. I also think we can all agree that while Pastornicky doesn’t set the world on fire with his bat, he at least hits better than Wilson and gives a better option off the bench for our reserve infielder. He would also provide more speed on the bases in the late innings.
So, what’s the objection?
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
6:18 pm
oh I wouldn’t have anything against it, though I would prefer Eddie. I just don’t think its happening in the immediate future of 6 games
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
6:19 pm
David O’Brien @ajcbraves
The decision to add Chipper to NL All-Star roster replacing Kemp was made by manager Tony La Russa.
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
6:19 pm
I don’t think anyone is against getting rid of Wilson as long as the replacement is capable enough to not drool on himself in the batters box
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
6:19 pm
damn I wore out a keyboard voting for Chipper and not it don’t matter……….
DAM
July 3rd, 2012
6:19 pm
I also would be happy with either TP or Eddie Perez as the manager.
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
6:20 pm
nolie
oh I agree, the only way that JS would authorize a manager firing mid-season would be if the team went 5-20 in July or something like that.
Murph
July 3rd, 2012
6:20 pm
To all of you who spent so much time voting for Chipper over the last 2 days, I have but one thing to say to you:
http://aintnogod.com/ipb/uploads/gallery/album_17/gallery_298_17_218.gif
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
6:20 pm
and play pretty good D. doubt they add an all bat, no glove kinda guy there Nick
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
6:21 pm
what are they gonna do with the voting now? If Freese makes the team wouldn’t that be too many 3rd basemen?
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
6:21 pm
who would be crazy enuff to click on a link from Murph? Prolly get attacked by a coupla younguns…
Just Saying
July 3rd, 2012
6:22 pm
I agree with selling instead of buying. Move Mac and Uggla. Plan for 2013 and use some of that money for a real manager (Francona cough cough).
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
6:22 pm
nolie
well, I reckon any Wilson replacement would err on the side of plus bat over plus glove… with Simmons in there, avg defense would suffice
Just Saying
July 3rd, 2012
6:23 pm
Stop wasting your time people. Bourn does not get in over the kid in Washington. People want to see stars and Bourn is not one. Truth.
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
6:23 pm
I don’y agree. they still want defense if Simmons goes down and Wilson is the only one we got
mpimentel
July 3rd, 2012
6:24 pm
Freeman , heyward, prado and bourn all having a good offensive season…we all knew what expect from jones, and uggla is batting better than last season…our hole have been mccann if he can get in rithym we’ll be playing in october for sure…hudson, hanson, greinke and sheets in playoffs it’ could be great
Bat Masterson
July 3rd, 2012
6:24 pm
Nolie_
Well getting Chipper in the lead probably helped get him picked, leaving a shot for Tony L’s boy Freese.
Just Saying
July 3rd, 2012
6:24 pm
Did someone really post reckon on here? And we wonder why the rest of this country thinks we are hillbillies. Wow!
cowdogit
July 3rd, 2012
6:25 pm
No one pays any attention to NickB and Rick” After reading a few of their blogs it’s easy to see they are a couple of ten year old kids having fun with the computer.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
6:25 pm
Thanks Murph…. grrrr
My wrists hurt from voting, I must have done near a 1000 votes for Chipper. People told me Bourn would replace Kemp.. grrrr. Now Bourny’s in a huge hole. We’ve gotta work harder to get him out of it.
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
6:26 pm
Wilson isn’t a plus defender anymore though….. he’s avg with a lousy bat
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
6:27 pm
Well getting Chipper in the lead probably helped get him picked, leaving a shot for Tony L’s boy Freese.
True. I call Conspiracy!!!!
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
6:27 pm
If they wanted to see only stars why would they vote in Sandoval?
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
6:27 pm
yeah wilson is a plus defender still
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
6:29 pm
gee, I reckon JustSayin’ is just bein a sillyhead
Bat Masterson
July 3rd, 2012
6:29 pm
And we wonder why the rest of this country thinks we are hillbillies. Wow!
The rest of the country thinks we’re hillbillies? How do you reckon that?
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
6:29 pm
Just Saying
i reckon you have some sort of issues involving self esteem if you are hyper concerned about the external viewpoint of the “nawth”
in other words, grow up
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
6:29 pm
nolie: He’s a star at the buffet….
Capt.Mudd
July 3rd, 2012
6:30 pm
2nd in line so the Raccoon shall stay…..but please limit his feedings at the plate
Bat Masterson
July 3rd, 2012
6:31 pm
Do you reckon the Braves have a chance tonight?
Steven A
July 3rd, 2012
6:32 pm
Any update on the weather. It is storming in Midtown, are they looking at a delay?
DAM
July 3rd, 2012
6:32 pm
Wilson’s defense has seemed average to me, too, NickB.
jeffrey d
July 3rd, 2012
6:33 pm
Who names replacements on the All Star Roster? LaRussa?
Capt.Mudd
July 3rd, 2012
6:33 pm
Only worry about the north if you are a ‘cross-dresser.’ Or when you fly to NY a white-haired CNN employee.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
6:33 pm
I reckon so Bat.
This game will start late, I reckon…
ChattTownBrian
July 3rd, 2012
6:34 pm
Congrats to Chipper
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
6:34 pm
nolie
no, he isn’t every defensive metric places him as dead avg
defensive WAR-0
range factor – 3.00 (league avg 4.75)
UZR- -1.6
UZR/150: -14.5
DRS: -1
field%: .857
meh
berrygin
July 3rd, 2012
6:36 pm
saw on tv, its pouring..game won’t start for awhile
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
6:37 pm
that would be about sample size Nick, and he is one helluva lot better than anybody else available bere
ChattTownBrian
July 3rd, 2012
6:37 pm
I would love to see Pendelton get a crack. Eddie Perez can be his right hand man. Fire Fredi NOW!
Carroll Rogers
July 3rd, 2012
6:38 pm
updated story on Chipper making the NL All-Star team for your perusal.
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/07/03/chipper-jones-named-to-nl-all-star-team/
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
6:39 pm
I would think that you would know by now that quoting a bunch of metrics to me is pretty worthless
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
6:40 pm
according to all the numbers I just looked at, he hasn’t been above avg since 2009
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
6:41 pm
nolie
then what? it would be one thing if there was only one metric that said avg to below avg…. but when ALL of em say that, to dismiss it seems….., well , kinda stubborn
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
6:41 pm
Braves dugout…
http://t.co/fsg3pQDC
One-Eyed Mac
July 3rd, 2012
6:43 pm
I’m happy for Chipper. I’ve been voting for Chipper for the final spot because I always figured Bourn would replace Kemp (outfielder for outfielder). If I knew Chipper was going to picked, I would have been voting for Bourn the whole time.
Murph
July 3rd, 2012
6:43 pm
You guys should hire your services out to Mexican politicians. Vote vote vote vote vote vote… oops, he got killed by the Cartel. Hmmmm… oh, hey, new guy! Vote vote vote vote vote…
Murph
July 3rd, 2012
6:44 pm
Carroll, think they’ll get the game in tonight?
Bat Masterson
July 3rd, 2012
6:44 pm
Well damn, that picture is not encouraging
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
6:45 pm
or indicates less belief in them than you possess. I was trained as a scout, so rightly or wrongly I depend on my eyes to judge defense. he is no longer great, but he is better than any others around here and the Braves tend to value defense at SS, so it is unlikely IMO that they would replace him with a guy who can’t field, which is what I said to begin with.
cowdogit
July 3rd, 2012
6:46 pm
I read that all bullpens are PRONE TO CHAOS” I think Mazzone won fourteen division titles and not one year did his bullpens fell to produce. NO CHAOS FOR MAZZONE!!!
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
6:48 pm
I’m not saying replace him with an ogre who can hit, but there has got to be some SS capable guy with more bat and equal glove
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
6:48 pm
yeah right, he is soooo good that none of the other 29 teams in baseball have had anything to do with him even though many have changed pitching coaches over the years. He rode in on the coat tails of three HOFers . Big deal. He ruined Avery completely
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
6:48 pm
cowdogit
go look at the braves bullpen ranking in the 90’s, then come back here
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
6:49 pm
If I knew Chipper was going to picked, I would have been voting for Bourn the whole time.
I know! I really wanted to vote for Bourn as I figured Chipper would be added by himself somehow (utility player or something, by LaRusa). It went the opposite. Gotta fire whoever said vote Chipper…..
The Real McCoy
July 3rd, 2012
6:50 pm
Just Saying
Did someone really post reckon on here? And we wonder why the rest of this country thinks we are hillbillies. Wow!
You got a problem with hillbillies? I reckon I could fix that.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
6:51 pm
He rode in on the coat tails of three HOFers . Big deal. He ruined Avery completely
Don’t really know about Avery, but I agree with the first statement. If he really was that good, he’d still have a job. He couldn’t even help Baltimore…
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
6:51 pm
on the other hand, perhaps Tony picked him because he was leading the voting
uga-brave
July 3rd, 2012
6:51 pm
chipper doin fedo’s job. pretty blunt interview.
uga-brave
July 3rd, 2012
6:52 pm
nolie, i said it when it happened. it gets freese in.
uga-brave
July 3rd, 2012
6:53 pm
murph, only about an hour left tops.
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
6:53 pm
or he coulda just have picked Freese if that was the big deal Uga, Freese still might not win
braveshoo
July 3rd, 2012
6:53 pm
The Braves are not good enough to win now but I think they can be now and in the future with some shrewd deals. First, lets look at payroll available next year, needs this year and next year, and see what is possible. We have Chippers 14m and Lowe’s 10m to spend. We need a number 1 starter, a LF when Prado moves to third next year, and to resign Bourn. I think we should trade for Greinke now and sign him to a 5 year extension at 20m per year. The Brewers want pitching and a SS, so I would give them Pastornicky and either Minor, Delgado, or Tehran. Then I would trade Brian McCann. I think his best years are behind him, and he has trouble seeing the ball, especially in day games(.098 average in day games). This saves another 12m, so we now have 16m left to spend. I would trade McCann to Minn. for Willingham, Liriano, and a relief pitcher (Perkins is a LH we could probably use). Now your starting pitching this year is Greinke, Hanson, Hudson, JJ, and Liriano. Next year you trade Liriano and substitute Minor/ Delgado/ or Tehran, whoever hasnt been traded to Milwalkie and who wins the job. You also have Beachy if he is healthy by the allstar break. You have Willingham (.270, 18 HRs) for LF signed for 2012 and 2013 at 7m, and you sign Bourn for 10m per year for 5 years. You have additional pop this year and beyond and most of your young pitching. I think Ross and Boscan, and down the road Bettancourt will be fine at catcher.
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
6:53 pm
never mind cowdogit, I did it for you
during Mazzone’s tenure the Braves were tenth in relief pitching (1989-2005)
under McDowell (2005-2012)
Braves have been eleventh
considering the lower payroll, I’d say Mcdowell is doing pretty well with the pen
Murph
July 3rd, 2012
6:54 pm
It rained before JJ’s start in Boston, too, and he pitched one of the best games he’s ever thrown as a Brave.
Perhaps tonight will be a repeat. Or perhaps he’ll give up 10ER in 2 innings.
berrygin
July 3rd, 2012
6:54 pm
defensive metrics still leave a lot to be desired…do they rate the speed of a pitch off a hitters bat? If the defenders are playing in a shift? I knew a lot of work was needed when they would be quoted on MLBTR and Tex and LaRoche were not considered way above average….
The Hatfields
July 3rd, 2012
6:55 pm
Hey “Real McCoy” don’t you be stirrin up no trouble!
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
6:56 pm
I was willing to read you drivel, even if you are wrong (sign Greinke at 20mil/yr) but this is crap
I would trade McCann to Minn. for Willingham, Liriano, and a relief pitcher (Perkins is a LH we could probably use).
We’re not trading BMac and Minnesota doesn’t need him.
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
6:56 pm
Tex and LaRoche were not considered way above average…….berry
Tex is, Roachy no so much
william in pasadena
July 3rd, 2012
6:57 pm
Where are you guys getting 14 hr’s for Pastornicky? It said 14 doubles. Doubles are not HR’s. Some of you guys should not post. It shows your lack of baseball intelligence.
usnavyvolfaninva
July 3rd, 2012
6:57 pm
Damn, stuffing the hell out of the ballot box for Bourn. How many votes do you get??
MiaBchBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
6:58 pm
Celebrities come and go, a moment of reflection, life goes on.
But losin’ ol’ Andy really, really hurts today.
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
6:58 pm
whats the weather like now
Murph
July 3rd, 2012
6:59 pm
Alright, time to go home.
Have a safe and happy 4th tomorrow everyone. Ward, don’t blow yourself up.
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
6:59 pm
as many as you want Navy
fordcobra
July 3rd, 2012
7:00 pm
Many were poo pooing Josh Willingham when they thought he might come to the Braves, well he is batting 267 with 17 home runs and 56 R.B.I. sounds like a pretty productive right hand stick to me.
Rick
July 3rd, 2012
7:00 pm
NickB, no point in trying to reason with cowdogit. He thinks Constanza should be playing over Chipper and then says our posts make us look like 10 year olds. Just one of the many village idiots on this blog.
usnavyvolfaninva
July 3rd, 2012
7:00 pm
OK… gonna let the carpal tunnel subside…then continue.
UNCBrave
July 3rd, 2012
7:01 pm
#1-The Braves are McCann and Uggla getting HOT away from taking the division IMO
#2-The Braves are the ONLY team in the NL East without an ACE (mets-santana, marlins-johnson, washington-gio/stras and phillies-halladay)……Therefore, GREINKE is a necessity
#3-the Braves HAVE to pick up Hudson’s option next year or else they’ll be in the SAME boat looking for a starting pitcher
#4-With Chipper, Lowe, and JJ’s $$$ off the books, the Braves should have enough $$ to sign Greinke, Bourn, Prado at 3B, and a corner OF
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
7:02 pm
you missed it william, Carroll typed in 14 HRs for Pastornicky… next time don’t be so critical without knowing the facts.
Bobby's Cox
July 3rd, 2012
7:02 pm
Greinke hasn’t impressed the past year and a half pitching in arguably the worst division in baseball.
Thus far he’s been terrible in the postseason.
Save the prospects & go after Liriano who has more postseason experience, is pitching quite well, and won’t cost an arm and a leg. Save the prospects for a hitter via trade, preferably in the offseason when we can probably sign Greinke anyways.
DAM
July 3rd, 2012
7:03 pm
The point is that it makes no sense for the Braves to value defense in the backup shortstop when they already have quite possibly the best defensive shortstop in the game playing everyday. We need a backup infielder with nothing more than a serviceable glove who can hit … in other words, someone other than Jack Wilson.
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
7:03 pm
fordcobra
I was surprised he only got $7 mill a year to be honest, but his defense leaves a lot to be desired….
Twins may move him, but I would think it would be in the offseason where they can present a full season of production and try to squeeze more out of him from more buyers
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
7:07 pm
just heard it was an estimated 30 minutes til the game starts
Just Saying
July 3rd, 2012
7:08 pm
Wow! There are a lot of wife beaters on here and I’m not talking about clothing. I was unaware that trailers had internet.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
July 3rd, 2012
7:08 pm
Boo! Rain delays stink…
At least it’s a short one. But too bad it couldn’t knock Volstad out of the game…
BFChris27
July 3rd, 2012
7:09 pm
As much as I like EOF, lefties are usually a bargain for Braves.
They had Mahay, then transitioned to Will Ohman and then EOF. The two prior to EOF, did a remarkable job. Seems like Braves have good luck with lefties in the pen.
jeffrey d
July 3rd, 2012
7:12 pm
Are they playing Jeff Franoeur’s “In My OwnWords” again?
VaBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
7:12 pm
Well our chances of winning are pretty low. Only thing positive is that it’s not monday.
Were playing a crap team, a very crappy pitcher and were at home so those are all negatives.
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
7:16 pm
it does make sense, if Simmons goes down they still want decent defense, backup SS is not usually about defensive replacement in game unless the starter is poor.
MiaBchBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
7:17 pm
This team is missing more than one piece. I say, limp to the barn this season, let the kid arms start next season, trade old pieces for young this season, and start a legit rebuilding program with the kid starters, Heyward, Freeman, Simmons, Venters and Kimbrel, and the new young additions as your cornerstones. That excites me!
Be bolder and don’t re-sign a soon-to-be expensive Bourn; Costanza can play CF next year until Lipka is ready. As long as Prado doesn’t ask for the moon, he’s a keeper at 3B. Uggla should be traded for multiple young positional pieces – ESPECIALLY OF’S, as should Bourn, JJ, Hudson, and (to a lesser extent) Hinske. I’m sorry, but even McCann doesn’t fit in this plan; let a stop-gap vet sharing time with Ross groom the kid arms in 2013 until Betancourt is ready in 2014.
We’re not gonna win anything this year with what we’ve got, and we are going to lose BIG next year by trading young assets now for what we need – which is more than a little bit.
As Leo Durocher once said, “Back up the truck!”
ncbravesfan90
July 3rd, 2012
7:18 pm
According to the Atlanta Braves twitter, the sun is out at Turner Field now.
Carroll Rogers
July 3rd, 2012
7:18 pm
tarp is coming off
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
7:19 pm
we all know who Just Saying is. he always abuses the South , a total idiot about both baseball and most everything else. Just another hater folks, nothing to see here….
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
7:21 pm
good lord there are more idiots here than i first believed…………
MiaBchBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
7:22 pm
In short, the last Braves rebuilding job was in 1990.
I think we are way overdue for a legit rebuild. The timing right now is pretty close to perfect.
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
7:22 pm
trade old pieces for young this season, and start a legit rebuilding program with the kid starters, Heyward, Freeman, Simmons, Venters and Kimbrel, and the new young additions as your cornerstones. ..MBBF
they will have no old pieces to trade, they are already about the youngest starting tean in baseball ans Chipper,Wilson and Hinske will be gone. who would rebuild an extremely young team, and with what? Nobody in the minors is anywhere near ready, and all we have to trade is young players now
The A Bomb
July 3rd, 2012
7:22 pm
Lincecum getting touched up….
WASHINGTON 2 SAN FRANCISCO 0 BOT 2
Bama Brave
July 3rd, 2012
7:23 pm
Nick B I agree…..
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
7:24 pm
I guess the 7 o’clock hour was tired of seeing McCann slump…..
The Real McCoy
July 3rd, 2012
7:24 pm
The Hatfields
I don’t reckon that “Just Saying” would be much trouble. Probably take one McCoy to take care of him or three Hatfields. One Hatfield if he turns his back.
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
7:28 pm
Any word on when the game is going to get started?
MiaBchBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
7:29 pm
nolie, the lack of positional players in the minors is alarming. However, the young arms are there. Trading for playoff pieces for this team this year is like spending good cash for a new, expensive door, for a house on the edge of the wrong side of the tracks.
Still on the wrong side of the tracks, when what you need to do with the good “money” you have is move.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
7:30 pm
Tomahawk 8pm
David O’Brien @ajcbraves
first pitch scheduled for 8 p.m.
Mark Bowman @mlbbowman
First pitch is scheduled for 8 p.m. ET #Braves #Cubs
Atlanta Braves @Braves
First pitch slated for 8 pm. #playball
ncbravesfan90
July 3rd, 2012
7:31 pm
8PM first pitch
cricket
July 3rd, 2012
7:31 pm
will ohman is available as lefty specialist
Brian Fuentes and Bobby Jenks are available too
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
7:32 pm
nolie, the lack of positional players in the minors is alarming.
Huge understatement…. been like this for at least 3 years, maybe more. Gawd, I wish we had drafted Mike Trout….
Venice Jim
July 3rd, 2012
7:33 pm
Ben Maller @benmaller
Don Mattingly on Chipper Jones replacing Matt Kemp in All-Star game: “I think that’s really cool.” #Dodgers
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
7:34 pm
Miabchbravesfan
but you don’t blow up a team that is this good, if they were 29-43 then sure, but they aren’t.
you spend the money to improve both for this year and the next. you go after the big starter, next season you go after a big corner bat and a young controllable CF’er.
your plan would have the Braves under .500 for 3 or 4 years
Bobby's Cox
July 3rd, 2012
7:34 pm
MiaBchBravesFan,
Agree with you, or like I said, trade the abundance of young arms for young hitters this offseason. Just like Glavine and Smotlz in the early 90’s, it takes time for young pitchers to get acclimated with the bigs. Why give up on them so early for just a taste of October, which could be 1 game.
JeanE
July 3rd, 2012
7:34 pm
I’m so glad Chipper is going to the AllStar game, I don’t care that I voted for him a cajillion times, just glad he’s going! It’s fitting he should be there, he deserves it just based on his career. Now I’m voting for Michael!! I think it’s great if we get Greinke, I’m not opposed to giving up one of the young guns, but I’ll be sad if it was Randall. Come on Braves, this Cubs team stinks, gotta win.
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
7:35 pm
noles, would you trade Delgado for Greinke?
Also, what are your thoughts on going for it over the next six months given that the NL stinks and the Braves don’t have any star prospects in the system above Low-A. May as well package em and get what we can? Thoughts?
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
7:37 pm
Greinke hasn’t impressed the past year and a half pitching in arguably the worst division in baseball.
Have you seen his stats this year? What in the world doesn’t impress you?
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
7:38 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan
Thank you for the information.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
July 3rd, 2012
7:39 pm
EIGHT PM??? What the heck…
Bobby's Cox
July 3rd, 2012
7:40 pm
idk, I just have a problem trading young arms for a 3 month rental in another pitcher who has mental problems, and in 3 postseason starts hasn’t performed. Might as well go for Liriano who is cheaper and arb-eligible for next year.
ncbravesfan90
July 3rd, 2012
7:40 pm
5-0 Washington, they beat pitchers that they’re suppose to beat….
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
7:41 pm
Tomahawk Mafia: You’re welcome
Efrim@7:37 LOL, he’s been very impressive this year for sure. I don’t know if he’s the right guy to trade for, but I sure wouldn’t hate it if he came here. Good pitcher.
Bama Brave
July 3rd, 2012
7:41 pm
I think mike minor will go for Greinke
jeffrey d
July 3rd, 2012
7:42 pm
EIGHT PM??? What the heck…
It’s only 20 minutes…
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
7:42 pm
the 8pm hour hasn’t gotten tired of mccann’s struggles yet, I guess McFann. This game needs to start at 10 for BMac to hit….
BravesWin
July 3rd, 2012
7:43 pm
Gee whiz — play ball! It’s going on 8:00! BTW, I agree with others that we need to “send it to the barn” this season (especially with our current case of Fredi-itis) and nurture, mature, and develop the talent we have, with an eye toward making a solid pickup on the market in the meantime.
Waffle House or Bust
July 3rd, 2012
7:43 pm
The David Justice story is sad. Imagine what could have been here if he stayed. On another note… would be cool if they would show classic Braves games during rain delays instead of these “In My Own Words” shows. Those are played out.
MiaBchBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
7:44 pm
A couple of streaks where the offense blew up does not make this a “good team”. The inertia of their great run still keeps them above .500, but the present construct is NOT a playoff team built for a serious run.
Bourn will be too expesnive, Chipper is gone, McCann is beat up, Uggla’s not in Joe Robbie Stadium with the friendly “teal monster”, Hudson would fare better on a legit playoff team, JJ is doing well now, & Hinske is a left-handed bat with pop.
Let’s allow Heyward, Freeman, Minor, Hanson, Delgado, et. al. to grow alongside the young positional players those mentioned above can bring this year. Minus Chipper, those players can bring players to Atlanta that can stand side by side with what we have. By 2014, you’d really start to see something worth rooting for!
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
7:44 pm
I think mike minor will go for Greinke
I think the Braves willl try to package the deal around him. Might need to add an extra prospect though…
DAM
July 3rd, 2012
7:44 pm
We’re going to agree to disagree here. Our bench is poor, and we should try to improve it offensively anywhere we can.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
July 3rd, 2012
7:45 pm
jeffrey d—
That’s still too long…
And it makes the game go later…
Venice Jim
July 3rd, 2012
7:47 pm
Nats already up 5-0 on Lincecum – Marlins have tied Brewers at 11 after trailing 11-5…
Waffle House or Bust
July 3rd, 2012
7:47 pm
Murph – Have a safe and happy 4th tomorrow everyone. Ward, don’t blow yourself up.
Good one! I bet he writes Go Braves on the side of his bottle rockets.
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
7:48 pm
Miabchbravesfan’
“doesn’t have the teal monster…”
you mean like last year , when he hit a career high in HR’s?
you may want to stop and wipe some of the drool off yer keyboard
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
7:49 pm
Nats already up 5-0 on Lincecum –
Lincecum hasn’t been the same this year. Not a true ace
Marlins have tied Brewers at 11 after trailing 11-5…
Greinke sukks….
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
7:49 pm
Waffle House or Bust
I have an affinity for David Justice. The Braves never won a World Series without him.
Waffle House or Bust
July 3rd, 2012
7:51 pm
For those that don’t think getting a new GM would actually make a difference… Look at the big changes Hawks have made already after bringing in Danny Ferry. I’m telling you Wren has to go if we want to see big boy decisions made to help this team. Not some crazy person going to Vegas with Liberty Medias money and blowing it.
ChattTownBrian
July 3rd, 2012
7:52 pm
When does the game start? Who’s runnin’ this thing?!
jeffrey d
July 3rd, 2012
7:52 pm
And it makes the game go later…
eh…barely
Waffle House or Bust
July 3rd, 2012
7:52 pm
Tomahawk Mafia – All the guy did was win wherever he went. Would have been nice to keep that winning at home. Plus the guy bled Braves blood. He loved the team.
George
July 3rd, 2012
7:53 pm
Still a 8:00 start time? Good CHIPPER going, now I can vote for HARPER.
MiaBchBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
7:53 pm
NickB, I’d try to explain why to you, but I don’t speak “crayon”, li’l buddy.
George
July 3rd, 2012
7:56 pm
I will not vote for BORNE because he will want big money and will not be with BRAVES next year.
Sopheee
July 3rd, 2012
7:56 pm
Great, dish lost its signal so Don and Jim it is.
Sopheee
July 3rd, 2012
7:57 pm
BOURN will be heartbroken.
The A Bomb
July 3rd, 2012
7:59 pm
A lot of you assume there’s a market for Minor. I’m not assuming anything. Unless he’s in San Diego or Oakland, he’s a dinger waiting to happen because he hasn’t conquered location.
I’ll bet teams are asking for Delgado, who shows the most promise.
And I haven’t seen anyone else comment on Nick Ahmed, who’s known and who’s blocked.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
July 3rd, 2012
8:01 pm
jeffrey d—
That’s enough!…
Sopheee—
So sorry…
brian
July 3rd, 2012
8:02 pm
I would trade Delgado for greinke in a heartbeat.
George
July 3rd, 2012
8:03 pm
Outta here for game. Please let us have a win.
ncbravesfan90
July 3rd, 2012
8:03 pm
Ahhh 72 degrees at first pitch….very nice. Chamber of Commerce type of night.
cabravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
8:05 pm
Just realized this is the last game I will get to watch until after the break…
brian
July 3rd, 2012
8:06 pm
I do not see the brewers going for a package around minor. They will want Delgado or Teheran. The cubs would accept a package around minor for garza and accept minor for semester straight up which I would never do
brian
July 3rd, 2012
8:07 pm
Great pitch by jurrjens
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
8:07 pm
Hmmm, maybe JJ is back, looking good so far. But I don’t want to be “wrong” yet. Still time for him to blow up tonight or the rest of July….
brian
July 3rd, 2012
8:08 pm
Sorry cab- where you headed?
usnavyvolfaninva
July 3rd, 2012
8:08 pm
OMG, I’m going to be divorced for the next 3 hours…Gone With the Wind on TCM!
Brava
July 3rd, 2012
8:08 pm
Do you think HARPER will be with the Braves next year, George? Sorry, but I have to question any fan who will vote for a player from another team over one of their own. Especially a player as good as Michael has been for this team.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
8:08 pm
here it starts….
cabravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
8:08 pm
brian-
To the Sierras for a long weekend
brian
July 3rd, 2012
8:08 pm
Dizzy is a stud. Cannot believe that the pads dumped him to the cubs
Rick
July 3rd, 2012
8:09 pm
JJ still hit is location on that pitch. I wouldn’t be too worried yet…
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
8:09 pm
Such a bad 0-2 pitch.
brian
July 3rd, 2012
8:09 pm
Cool cab
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
8:12 pm
A strikeout for Jurrjens? Surprise.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
8:12 pm
joking rick, joking
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
8:13 pm
Volstad is going bad, which means that he will beat the Braves.
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
8:15 pm
Talking Chop @gondeee
The Braves have signed 16th round pick Fernelys Sanchez for $210,000. Plus-plus speed, switch hitter out of high school.
Another good signing.
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
8:18 pm
Jim Callis @jimcallisBA
#Braves sign 16th-rder Fernelys Sanchez for $210k. NY HS OF w/VG speed, much higher pick if hadn’t broken leg in March.
Another good signing.
brian
July 3rd, 2012
8:19 pm
Agree efrim
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
8:20 pm
Braves hitters have to lead the league in F-bombs.
brian
July 3rd, 2012
8:20 pm
Time for chipper to be the all star/ HOF player he is
Duke
July 3rd, 2012
8:20 pm
Chipper is about to have a huge game!
Bravefaninok
July 3rd, 2012
8:21 pm
cabravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
8:08 pm
brian-
To the Sierras for a long weekend
Have fun and be safe Cab……you guys have XM???? so you can hear the games???
brian
July 3rd, 2012
8:21 pm
All it takes is a single.
Thank you chipper!!!!
BFChris27
July 3rd, 2012
8:21 pm
Chipper!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Duke
July 3rd, 2012
8:21 pm
Called it!
Brava
July 3rd, 2012
8:21 pm
Chipper!!!!
jeffrey d
July 3rd, 2012
8:21 pm
uhhh….I think he caught that
usnavyvolfaninva
July 3rd, 2012
8:22 pm
How ’bout an RBI, Chipper!
jeffrey d
July 3rd, 2012
8:22 pm
nope, nevermind…..great call, umps
usnavyvolfaninva
July 3rd, 2012
8:22 pm
called it!
cabravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
8:22 pm
Bravefaninok-
No but I can listen on the computer. VJ is staying here- he as to work (and look after my pup for me
)
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
8:23 pm
Mets up 6-1 on Phillies. If the score holds up, Phillies would fall to ten games under .500 – 36-46 and the Mets would go to a season high – 7 games over .500 – 44-37.
brian
July 3rd, 2012
8:23 pm
I was about to scream if they called that a catch
cabravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
8:23 pm
Old Man feeling good tonight
BFChris27
July 3rd, 2012
8:23 pm
Chipper!!!!!!!!!!!
Brava
July 3rd, 2012
8:23 pm
You go, Chipper!!!
brian
July 3rd, 2012
8:23 pm
Old man stealing a base!!!
abeeewright
July 3rd, 2012
8:23 pm
If I’m not mistaken, that was a HUGE stolen base for Chipper.
Bravefaninok
July 3rd, 2012
8:24 pm
The Old Man is feeling frisky tonight!!!!!
Brava
July 3rd, 2012
8:24 pm
Dang it.
Duke
July 3rd, 2012
8:24 pm
Everything Chipper does tonight will be HUGE abeeewright
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
8:24 pm
Old F@rts Rule!!!
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
8:25 pm
Did Chipper just *gulp* steal a base? WOW, he can FLY!!!
ChattTownBrian (Lucky Charms)
July 3rd, 2012
8:25 pm
Getting desperate am I.
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
8:25 pm
I say the chances for a shutdown inning are slim knowing the Braves current struggles to score.
One Big Dummy
July 3rd, 2012
8:25 pm
Gotta love the SB by Chipper! LOL
Carroll Rogers
July 3rd, 2012
8:25 pm
Chipper became 2nd Brave w/hit streak of 10 or more games over age 40. other is Rabbit Maranville in 1933, according to Elias Sports Bureau….Rabbit was 41……And yes that was fun to type again. Rabbit.
abeeewright
July 3rd, 2012
8:26 pm
Under Walk and Fletch, Braves are grinding out at bats a little more than last year … they’re also letting loose with the profanity. More pitches seen … more f-bombs dropped.
Walk’s and Flech’s legacy.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
8:27 pm
JJ going DOWN!!!! (sarcasm)
ChattTownBrian (Lucky Charms)
July 3rd, 2012
8:27 pm
Whew … Chipper bringing the heat with those comments. He ain’t messin around, they’d better get it together.
brian
July 3rd, 2012
8:28 pm
Need a quick inning here
ChattTownBrian (Lucky Charms)
July 3rd, 2012
8:30 pm
I don’t think Chipper makes those comments if he knew his teammates weren’t that talented. They are, and I take CJ’s word they can lay down and sort of quit.
ChattTownBrian (Lucky Charms)
July 3rd, 2012
8:31 pm
Nats already winning
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
8:31 pm
Bad throw by JJ
ChattTownBrian (Lucky Charms)
July 3rd, 2012
8:32 pm
nolie, you’re just old and crusty.Chipper is grizzled. No comparison …
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
8:33 pm
that spiked throw to 1st was bad and that throw to 2nd wasn’t great either…. throw was father off the bag than one of BMac’s
JJ gets saved by LaHairs lack of speed there.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
8:33 pm
*farther
Brava
July 3rd, 2012
8:33 pm
Good play by Bourn.
ChattTownBrian (Lucky Charms)
July 3rd, 2012
8:34 pm
JJ is off again.
keylargo
July 3rd, 2012
8:34 pm
Carroll
That would be Boston Brave and “Hall of Fame” Rabbit Maranville. Did Rabbit have a stolen base in his streak?
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
8:34 pm
Of course Jurrjens is running into trouble after the Braves scored. Plus he made another terrible pitch with 2 strikes.
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
8:34 pm
Heyward has taken six(6) walks in his last 119 plate appearances, posting a .353 OBP dating back to May 27th.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
8:34 pm
Yeah!!!!
Brava
July 3rd, 2012
8:34 pm
Awesome DP!!!
cabravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
8:35 pm
No worries- JJ’s got this
Bravefaninok
July 3rd, 2012
8:35 pm
That was a better throw …….
abeeewright
July 3rd, 2012
8:35 pm
How many times do you see the pitcher get the come-backer to start the double play and throw the ball into center field?
Nice job of shutting down the cubs after getting a lead.
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
8:35 pm
Jurrjens gets out of trouble. As per usual. Ball finds a glove.
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
8:36 pm
Nice break for Atlanta.
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
8:36 pm
that seems to be his plan Efrim. swing more
ChattTownBrian (Lucky Charms)
July 3rd, 2012
8:36 pm
“Enjoy that Curacao” Chip Caray
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
8:37 pm
That was a better throw …….
lol
JJ has me 44% converted me that he’s back…. now if he can keep it up.
Let’s go Uggla! I’m hungry.
Carroll Rogers
July 3rd, 2012
8:38 pm
Chipper’s 150th career steal ranks sixth in Atlanta #Braves history. Furcal (189), Nixon (186), Royster (174), Murphy (160), Gant (157)
Brava
July 3rd, 2012
8:38 pm
Uggla is about to snap out of it.
abeeewright
July 3rd, 2012
8:39 pm
“Jurrjens gets out of trouble. As per usual. Ball finds a glove.”
The BABIP Kid.
jeffrey d
July 3rd, 2012
8:39 pm
I was surprised Chipper only had 150 steals…I thought I remembered him stealing a lot when he was younger
The A Bomb
July 3rd, 2012
8:39 pm
Total pull swing.
ncbravesfan90
July 3rd, 2012
8:39 pm
And on the other hand, McCann is not about to snap out of it.
brian
July 3rd, 2012
8:39 pm
.224 avg with a .291 OBP is awful at this stage in the season. It saddens me to see McCann play so poorly
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
8:40 pm
well, he hit it.
abeeewright
July 3rd, 2012
8:40 pm
Ah, the Braves offense. “There’s your run, Jurrjens, make it stick.”
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
8:40 pm
Uggla hit it, that is
that was a quick inning. More struggles from BMac…. let the guy rest
Rick
July 3rd, 2012
8:40 pm
I think so too Brava. The last couple games he’s been making some solid contact, which is progress. Just need to start hitting them to where they ain’t.
brian
July 3rd, 2012
8:40 pm
I will still take our young SS any day of the week over Castro
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
8:40 pm
The Braves have the closest thing to automatic outs hitting consecutively.
BFChris27
July 3rd, 2012
8:41 pm
Brewers beat Marlins
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
8:41 pm
swing more
But pitchers seem to still attack him. Like we discussed, when does it end? He’s already destroyed the baseball for a month – and they are still going at him. But the ball can’t find open space all the time. Just can’t. I know we like to see him killing the ball, but I really would like to see some more walks. I guess that’s when he has fully put it together….we’ll see…..
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
8:41 pm
224 avg with a .291 OBP is awful at this stage in the season. It saddens me to see McCann play so poorly
Sickens me…. I “paid” money for him in fantasy baseball….
Jerry
July 3rd, 2012
8:41 pm
Uggla and McCann leading off an inning adds up to 2 outs real quick.
abeeewright
July 3rd, 2012
8:41 pm
You know, Ross is as good as many a starting catcher on other teams. Might want to let him take over the starter’s role for a month.
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
8:42 pm
Brewers win and are 38-42.
Braves are 41-38…..
keylargo
July 3rd, 2012
8:42 pm
Carroll
I looked it up an Rabbit didn’t have a SB during his 10 game streak. He was listed at 5′ 5″ and 155 lbs.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
8:42 pm
“Jurrjens gets out of trouble. As per usual. Ball finds a glove.”
The BABIP Kid.
Balls finding gloves quickly too, for now.
BFChris27
July 3rd, 2012
8:42 pm
Also, Livan Hernandez got the win out of the bullpen.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
8:44 pm
I think so too Brava. The last couple games he’s been making some solid contact, which is progress. Just need to start hitting them to where they ain’t.
You do what date it is? Almost July 5th….. which is when Uggs snapped out of his slump last year…. he’s gonna go on a tear soon.
Bronke
July 3rd, 2012
8:44 pm
Folks. Something is seriously wrong with McMcann. This is too long of a slump for him not to come out of it. He is an automatic out. Any ideas from the fandom?
ChattTownBrian (Lucky Charms)
July 3rd, 2012
8:44 pm
Chip says “Chicaaaaago” about 50 times during every game we play them. Just say Cubs, you annoying douche.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
8:46 pm
Bronke: I have no idea unfortunately…. he’s been missing fastballs though, which is strange.
keylargo
July 3rd, 2012
8:46 pm
I will still take our young SS any day of the week over Castro
Physically they’re seem to be close but Simmons has a brain – that he uses as needed.
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
8:46 pm
That was a terrible hop.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
8:46 pm
NOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Brava
July 3rd, 2012
8:46 pm
Damn it, Uggla!
MiaBchBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
8:46 pm
Waytogo, Danny.
Rick
July 3rd, 2012
8:46 pm
Come on Uggla take the sure out.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
8:46 pm
The ball was wet…. it slipped out.
abeeewright
July 3rd, 2012
8:47 pm
That’s what Chipper was talking about. You’re out of the inning with a double play and the lead. Uggla airmails the ball … no outs … tie game … runner on second.
Sopheee
July 3rd, 2012
8:47 pm
Yes Dan, your bad.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
8:47 pm
Simmons…..
The A Bomb
July 3rd, 2012
8:47 pm
DE-FENSE! DE-FENSE! DE-FENSE!
MiaBchBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
8:47 pm
Ahhh, the 1989 Braves are playing tonight.
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
8:47 pm
This team finds ways to lose games. Awful.
Jerry
July 3rd, 2012
8:47 pm
Uggla warming up for the all star game by showing everyone how to make an error.
ChattTownBrian (Lucky Charms)
July 3rd, 2012
8:47 pm
Holy bejeeus
abeeewright
July 3rd, 2012
8:47 pm
How did these Braves get so bad? They are just plain bad. Can’t play baseball.
jeffrey d
July 3rd, 2012
8:48 pm
Did you really need to contribute, Soph?
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
8:48 pm
Physically they’re seem to be close but Simmons has a brain – that he uses as needed.
Castro isn’t fast. Simmons is. Much better glove at SS. Castro is a better hitter, though. For now…
smallmouth6
July 3rd, 2012
8:48 pm
Not your fault J.J. Tballers back on the field.
Bat Masterson
July 3rd, 2012
8:48 pm
Damn, Dan
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
8:48 pm
Some slopy defense. I thought this was Simmons not Pastornicky….. That should be an E…
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
8:49 pm
Did you really need to contribute, Soph?
Nope. She must secretly hate Dan…. (sarcasm)
Here is the real JJ…. all thanks to the bad defense though
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
8:49 pm
This team is so bad to watch right now. Jurrjens got his groundballs and the defense made sure they screwed it all up.
Sparky
July 3rd, 2012
8:49 pm
Time to start piling on Fredi Gonzalez!
smallmouth6
July 3rd, 2012
8:49 pm
abeeewright: I agree. Time to let Ross start.
gcs
July 3rd, 2012
8:50 pm
Are the Braves really going to lose to a pitcher who is 0-6 and has a +7 ERA???
ChattTownBrian
July 3rd, 2012
8:50 pm
Wow. Bear down JJ. I know you’re ticked off, but ..
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
8:50 pm
Steve Berthiaume @SBerthiaumeESPN
NEVER seen this: #Astros P Lucas Harrell just drilled his own 3B Scott Moore in the back while fielding a ball & throwing to 1st. Yup.
Duke
July 3rd, 2012
8:50 pm
Well Uggla ruined this inning…
Ekim
July 3rd, 2012
8:51 pm
And the wheels come off.
Sopheee
July 3rd, 2012
8:51 pm
Sorry, jeffrey couldn’t help it.
Brava
July 3rd, 2012
8:51 pm
Good grief. Wheels coming off.
The A Bomb
July 3rd, 2012
8:51 pm
Actually we can just start cutting and pasting last night’s blog. This is disgusting.
Something has to be done to shake this up.
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
8:51 pm
Jurrjens has made plenty of mistakes tonight.
ChattTownBrian
July 3rd, 2012
8:51 pm
Chipper’s talk hasn’t helped. Might be pressing them even more it appears.
jeffrey d
July 3rd, 2012
8:51 pm
You’re fine
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
8:51 pm
Come on JJ, you needed to get out of this. Now you need to stop it right here. That’s what good pitchers do.
Brava
July 3rd, 2012
8:52 pm
Whew.
tommykk
July 3rd, 2012
8:52 pm
JJ is back to under 90 on the gun..not good imo..anybody seen 90 or above?
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
8:52 pm
Bourn scared me there
Sopheee
July 3rd, 2012
8:52 pm
And I thought it was humorous how he pointed to himself afterwards. The third grader in me just wanted to say duh, it’s your fault.
The A Bomb
July 3rd, 2012
8:52 pm
Fire Fredi Buttermaker!
Ekim
July 3rd, 2012
8:52 pm
That would have been something if Bourn had missed that last ball.
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
8:52 pm
The Cubs are playing the worst team in baseball.
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
8:53 pm
Close to being 6-1.
Yes, blame Dan. Miss a bat, Jair.
ncbravesfan90
July 3rd, 2012
8:53 pm
You just don’t catch any breaks when your playing as bad as we are right now.
Duke
July 3rd, 2012
8:53 pm
tommykk, JJ has hit 91 several times…..
Jerry
July 3rd, 2012
8:53 pm
Sorry ass team is what this is. This game is probably the only thing standing in the way of a four game sweep by the lowly Cubs, and Uggla has to put his two-cents in. Just great.
Charlie
July 3rd, 2012
8:54 pm
ALL STAR DAN UGGLY! What a loser, choke job, piss down your leg Dan. Can’t hit, can’t field, and leads to all this innings runs. What a piece of crap. Worst trade, worst signning in Braves history. Put Dumb Dumb Dan…ALL STAR DAN down, and leave him there.
What a LOSER. Totally worthless. The Braves Dan Uggly…
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
8:54 pm
JJ is back to under 90 on the gun..not good imo..anybody seen 90 or above?
I haven’t…. been seeing/hearing 87-88. I’m not surprised, he hasn’t been above 90 consistently in a while. He needs to change speeds between fastball and offspeed better though…
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
8:54 pm
I doubt the Braves score anymore runs.
Ralph
July 3rd, 2012
8:54 pm
It’s been nice chatting with you folks this season but there is no need in me bothering to bitch and complain any longer. When this team makes some wholesale changes I will be back, bye ya’ll.
ncbravesfan90
July 3rd, 2012
8:54 pm
hitting 90-91 a couple of times, but sitting 87-88 consistently, in other words about where his velocity was before being sent down.
ACE
July 3rd, 2012
8:54 pm
Maybe DOB and Fredi could do a Harley ride fundraiser to get some much needed help for this team.
SMOLTZ 29
July 3rd, 2012
8:55 pm
Uggla needs to sit down and watch for a while……with McCann! MERCY
Sopheee
July 3rd, 2012
8:55 pm
Peace out time.
ChattTownBrian
July 3rd, 2012
8:55 pm
Uggla … damn son. You’re killing us. McCann is also sinking us with his auto outs. These two need to be benched for a bit, but the Clueless One in that dugout probably doesn’t even know his ABC’s, so … we’re FU****!
abeeewright
July 3rd, 2012
8:55 pm
Bourn has made a lot of iffy plays in the out-field in this home-stand. He cost Huddy big time in the first inning. Just about pried open the flood gates on that misplay in CF.
Ekim
July 3rd, 2012
8:55 pm
I bet you’re right, Tomahawk Mafia. I think their spirit is broken now.
keylargo
July 3rd, 2012
8:55 pm
Charlie – STFU
Mark Duncan
July 3rd, 2012
8:56 pm
Somebody needs to step up here. Go Braves!
tommykk
July 3rd, 2012
8:57 pm
Captain Quegg is doing a helluva of a job managing these Braves. Somebody give him some silver balls to rub together
abeeewright
July 3rd, 2012
8:57 pm
JJ just about has enough time to get a drink and it’s time to head back out and pitch again.
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
8:58 pm
That was one of the worst defensive innings I have seen in a while and now it looks like Volstad is about to mow the Braves down one by one.
ChattTownBrian
July 3rd, 2012
8:58 pm
Here we go … Volstad will cruise now. Seen this movie before.
OMG shut the fu** up Chip you bushy eyebrowed nerd boy. You int funny, smart or slick with your corny lines. Simpson laughs because he feels sorry for you. He’s dumb as a box of rocks anyhow, that Joe.
Duke
July 3rd, 2012
8:58 pm
We’re going to need a clutch HR with runners on to score runs tonight. We are such a momentum driven offense.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
8:59 pm
JJ just about has enough time to get a drink and it’s time to head back out and pitch again.
LOL…. What’s with making this guy look like Cy Young? He hasn’t won in a year. I guess anyone can pitch well on any night though…
The A Bomb
July 3rd, 2012
9:00 pm
Somewhere in Milwaukee a young, talented pitcher is curled up in a ball, screaming.
“NOOOOOOOO!!!! PLEASE DON’T MAKE ME GO THERE!”
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
9:00 pm
So sick of seeing every hitter on this team get fooled by sliders.
Joe 12-Pack
July 3rd, 2012
9:00 pm
Rizzo? LaHair? Clevenger? Barney? Valbuena?
Who the heck are these guys and why are the Braves losing to a AAA team?
ncbravesfan90
July 3rd, 2012
9:01 pm
I don’t know whats worse right now, the offense, the pitching, or the defense.
ChattTownBrian
July 3rd, 2012
9:01 pm
Wonder if Uggla feels like groping his teammates now?
brian
July 3rd, 2012
9:01 pm
Nice at bat for heyward. Unlucky
Just Do It.
July 3rd, 2012
9:02 pm
They just said Span could be trade bait on MLB Network. Let’s get Span & Liriano, put Prado back at 2nd, and trade Uggla. This offseason, we get a 3rd baseman and CF’er.
Jerry
July 3rd, 2012
9:02 pm
C’mon Chip, why would you say that Heyward hit the ball a mile and it gets caught short of the warning track?
tony austin
July 3rd, 2012
9:02 pm
When they start hitting HRs again they’ll start winning again.
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
9:02 pm
Is anyone else tired of hearing Chip Carey describe a routine fly ball to the edge of the warning track as being “hit a mile?”
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
9:03 pm
6 walks in 120 plate appearances.
Farnsworthy
July 3rd, 2012
9:03 pm
Welcome to the Atlanta Braves clown show folks. Glad I didn’t pay money to see
Farnsworthy
July 3rd, 2012
9:03 pm
Welcome to the Atlanta Braves clown show folks. Glad I didn’t pay money to see
ChattTownBrian
July 3rd, 2012
9:03 pm
ncbravesfan90, you forgot that stellar broadcast team in the booth. Bad enough watching that garbage try and play baseball on that field, but add Chip’s laughs and screaching voice and you have a Nightmare on Peachtree St.
brian
July 3rd, 2012
9:04 pm
I would not put rizzo in that category
Le Fan
July 3rd, 2012
9:05 pm
Fredi- diot can ruin any mans dreams
The A Bomb
July 3rd, 2012
9:05 pm
I smell a patented 2-game winning streak on the horizon.
Followed by ANOTHER 3-game losing streak.
Rico
July 3rd, 2012
9:05 pm
We need to change the Manager and some players. This team is not playing hard and not motivated. I agree with Chipper.
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
9:05 pm
3-run home run David Wright and the Mets are 9-1.
Wright, Votto and McCutchen are the 3 MVP candidates.
George
July 3rd, 2012
9:06 pm
WHAT A TEAM – down-down-down-OUT
joe YOU ARE VERY smart.
Hmmmm
July 3rd, 2012
9:06 pm
Phils still struggling along. No doubt they’re counting down the days until the weekend series against the Braves probably thinking, “we’ll finally be able to feel good about ourselves and win another series!!!!”
Bobby's Cox
July 3rd, 2012
9:06 pm
Fly ball to deep CF: 390 ft
Mile: 5280 ft
Not close to a mile.
brian
July 3rd, 2012
9:07 pm
Jurrjens will be fine as fifth in the rotation. Trouble is we have to find 3 and 4 or more accurately 1 and 2
Harvey Korman's combover
July 3rd, 2012
9:07 pm
Tomahawk Mafia – I, for one, am sick of everything about that no talent a** clown Chip Caray
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
July 3rd, 2012
9:07 pm
The A Bomb
July 3rd, 2012
8:47 pm
DE-FENSE! DE-FENSE! DE-FENSE!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
WHERE?
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
9:07 pm
JJ…… 7 Hits
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
9:08 pm
Tom Hart @tom_hart
Chipper told me pre game that this #Braves team makes mistakes on a nightly basis that other teams don’t make. 3 unearned for Cubs in 3rd.
ncbravesfan90
July 3rd, 2012
9:08 pm
The reason the Cubs hitters are on attack is because JJ does not have overpowering stuff anymore and is around the plate tonight.
The A Bomb
July 3rd, 2012
9:09 pm
Coach — YOU TELL ME!
brian
July 3rd, 2012
9:09 pm
Fredi does not make the best in game decisions. If he cannot have the braves focused and ready to play in a nightly basis, he needs to be fired
ChattTownBrian
July 3rd, 2012
9:09 pm
not our year it looks. little flashes here and there, but we’re really just an average team with an over average roster on paper.
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
9:09 pm
They give up so many hits right back at the pitcher.
brian
July 3rd, 2012
9:10 pm
Braves need to trade for greinke now before they climb back into it
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
9:10 pm
Jurrjens and his 87 mph fastball with bad location is a huge inning for the Cubs waiting to happen.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
9:11 pm
dang it Chipper…. so unlucky
Capt.Mudd
July 3rd, 2012
9:11 pm
….Hi everyone….man, do I need to call Lou Ferrigno down here to get a few belted?
Rick
July 3rd, 2012
9:11 pm
Remember people saying we needed to go after Oswalt?
karl ravech @karlravechespn
Opponents hitting .438 vs oswalt this season..tonight white sox are 10×17 against him
abeeewright
July 3rd, 2012
9:12 pm
More rain falls on the Braves defense.
Le Fan
July 3rd, 2012
9:12 pm
Anyone on this blog who still stands behind Dan Uggla is probably standing behind him for a reason
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
9:12 pm
Now the defense is just sloppy. So bad defense, bad awfense, bad starting, and bad relieving is a recipe for a bad team.
brian
July 3rd, 2012
9:12 pm
Tough hop on a slowly hit ball to chipper. Little delay but nice play. Speed and hustle won thogh
Jerry
July 3rd, 2012
9:12 pm
Shoulda been an error on Chipper.
MFin04
July 3rd, 2012
9:13 pm
So the defense is really supporting Jurrjens tonight, eh? Wow. Haven’t seen defense this bad since little league.
Bobby's Cox
July 3rd, 2012
9:13 pm
Brewers won’t trade Greinke till after their first 3 series after the all-star break. They want to see if they can climb back into the race since they play division rivals after the break.
brian
July 3rd, 2012
9:13 pm
Though
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
9:13 pm
Well, at least he hasn’t walked anyone.
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
9:13 pm
Also, another inning where the Braves got two easy outs and then ran into trouble. At least they got out of it though.
abeeewright
July 3rd, 2012
9:13 pm
Jurrjens in line for the loss, but his ERA is going down.
Jake W.
July 3rd, 2012
9:13 pm
Greinke suppose to be the savior for the rotation, no pressure there.
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
July 3rd, 2012
9:14 pm
For the G-D umpteenth time…..
Uggla belongs in LF, not at 2B. Until it happens, Nobody should take this team or their front office organization seriously.
Why? Because baseball starts with PITCHING and DEFENSE. Until Frank Wren and Fredi Gonzalez commit to the tried and true methodology that wins consistently, This fan will not believe in them.
Capt.Mudd
July 3rd, 2012
9:14 pm
C’mon Bravos…it’s time to churn some butter, make some hay, hit with focus….be like Marteeeen; not Jason Bay!
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
9:14 pm
Anyone on this blog who still stands behind Dan Uggla is probably standing behind him for a reason
This
We didn’t need Oswalt I say, and I still believe that. We already have a previously injured starter who sucked down the stretch last year and wasn’t ready to play come opening day. Her name is Jair Jurrjens.
keylargo
July 3rd, 2012
9:15 pm
Castro isn’t fast. Simmons is
Could have fooled me. And the ump and Freddie and Chipper
ChattTownBrian
July 3rd, 2012
9:15 pm
Volstad is now dealin’. Unreal how this happens so much to us.
Duke
July 3rd, 2012
9:15 pm
JJ hasn’t been the problem tonight. No reason to criticize him…
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
9:15 pm
His name…. danged auto-spell
brian
July 3rd, 2012
9:15 pm
Braves need to get back to pitching and defense. Speed at the top of the order is a nice bonus for Bourn but his D is huge. Freeman, Heyward, and Simmons are solid foundations. Beachy and Kimbrel are the pitchers to keep right now
panamajack
July 3rd, 2012
9:15 pm
A little home field advantage on the scoring tonight, Freeman should have been charged with an error and Chipper also.
Brava
July 3rd, 2012
9:16 pm
Chipper!!!!!
cabravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
9:16 pm
Her name is Jair Jurrjens.
Please tell me “her” was a typo…
brian
July 3rd, 2012
9:16 pm
I did give up on chipper too early. The braces need chipper to catch fire and rally around him
keylargo
July 3rd, 2012
9:16 pm
That’s why Chipper needs to be hitting second.
Capt.Mudd
July 3rd, 2012
9:16 pm
OK this is better….he’s not on second–right guys?
Jake W.
July 3rd, 2012
9:16 pm
Its Tuesday, we still have a chance.
Chipper showing why at 40 he’s still great, love his approach.
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
9:16 pm
So the defense is really supporting Jurrjens tonight, eh?
Maybe if he missed a bat with that 87 mph fastball, the ball in play wouldn’t find the glove of a Dan Uggla like object.
cabravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
9:17 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan-
Just saw the correction
Happens to me a lot to… (and I was all set to yell at you 
)
JEB
July 3rd, 2012
9:17 pm
This team is playing soooo bad right now!
SOOOOOO bad!!
MFin04
July 3rd, 2012
9:17 pm
Who the hell would have a shift on Chipper? Are you serious? It isn’t McCann or Hinske, it is Chipper fing Jones.
Jerry
July 3rd, 2012
9:17 pm
Joe Simpson just made a valid point. Be nice if the players would listen.
2011 again?
July 3rd, 2012
9:17 pm
PLEASE FIRE FREEDIE NOW!!!
Duke
July 3rd, 2012
9:17 pm
Chipper with another hit…
MFin04
July 3rd, 2012
9:18 pm
Efrim- He isn’t trying to miss bats, he has an incredibly low pitch count and it could be a shutout with an even lower pitch count if they count throw the ball. Wowza.
ChattTownBrian
July 3rd, 2012
9:18 pm
Chipper will be so missed. Man how I wish they could make a serious run in his final year. But it just doesn’t work like that.
Pluto
July 3rd, 2012
9:18 pm
These Fox Sports tweets are the worst. At least Beth Keener was hot. Now, they’re only annoying.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
9:19 pm
Uggla belongs in LF, not at 2B. Until it happens, Nobody should take this team or their front office organization seriously.
Wow. Tool. Nothing to see here. Uggla isn’t playing LF, and I bet he’d be worse out there.
Volstad is now dealin’. Unreal how this happens so much to us.
Guy hasn’t won in a year. Still hope.
JJ hasn’t been the problem tonight. No reason to criticize him
Not criticizing. Just pointed out how his lack of swing and miss stuff hurt him. Though I admit, our defense has been shoddy. Never looked this bad with Pastornicky…..
Dang it again. Chipper doesn’t look good.
The A Bomb
July 3rd, 2012
9:19 pm
KING MIDAS GONZALEZ!
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
9:19 pm
Uggla, I’m HUNGRY!!!
2011 again?
July 3rd, 2012
9:19 pm
THIS TEAM IS SUCH A FRICKING JOKE!!!
MFin04
July 3rd, 2012
9:19 pm
At least Chipper will go the other way. Wish everyone would take notice…
Rick
July 3rd, 2012
9:19 pm
I was wondering what happened to Beth. They’ve got some blonde chick doing her job now in the pre-game stuff, guess she doesn’t do anything in game though.
ncbravesfan90
July 3rd, 2012
9:20 pm
Well if nothing else, this team can hit some pop-ups with McCann taking the crown for that.
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
July 3rd, 2012
9:20 pm
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
9:16 pm
So the defense is really supporting Jurrjens tonight, eh?
Maybe if he missed a bat with that 87 mph fastball, the ball in play wouldn’t find the glove of a Dan Uggla like object.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
It’s called pitching to contact, while getting quick outs. Provided of course if your 2nd baseman can field his position…..
Jerry
July 3rd, 2012
9:20 pm
watching Uggla fail never seems to get old.
MFin04
July 3rd, 2012
9:20 pm
Getting frustrating watching this team get owned by guys with 5+ ERAs.
Duke
July 3rd, 2012
9:20 pm
Fredo has hit the ball hard twice tonight. Very unlucky. He has been scorching it lately.
Jake W.
July 3rd, 2012
9:20 pm
JJ is a pitch to contact pitcher like Huddy, he’s going to give up hits, as long as he isn’t giving up rockets and homers left and right he can be productive.
The A Bomb
July 3rd, 2012
9:20 pm
That wouldn’t be a home run in a phone booth.
The Gonzalez regime has equaled one slump after another for key players on the Braves.
Charlie
July 3rd, 2012
9:21 pm
Another worthless at bat for HEAD CASE DAN…at .233, an ALL STAR…That’s the Braves Choke Man Dan…
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
9:21 pm
and it could be a shutout with an even lower pitch count if they count throw the ball. Wowza.
Clouded view and a borderline obsession.
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
9:21 pm
Just, wow. This team does nothing correctly at all. Such a bad baseball team.
MFin04
July 3rd, 2012
9:21 pm
Screw Greinke, this team has pitching. Get a flippin’ bat already!
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
9:22 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan-
Just saw the correction Happens to me a lot to… (and I was all set to yell at you )
Hey, I might be skeptical of JJ, but I’d never call him a girl or sissy…
ChattTownBrian
July 3rd, 2012
9:22 pm
Announcers aren’t worried about Uggla, but fans are. The guy is walking out, error machine. You don’t win with these guys.
Pluto
July 3rd, 2012
9:22 pm
The rumor was that Keener was let go after some sexual harassment issues. But I saw that on the internet, so I have no clue as to its validity.
2011 again?
July 3rd, 2012
9:22 pm
OK IM DONE WITH THIS TEAM NO LONGER WASTING MY SUMMER WATCHING CRAPPY PLAYERS!! GO AWAY BRAVS YOU ALL SUCK!!!
abeeewright
July 3rd, 2012
9:22 pm
On a stretch where the Braves are playing Stinky-ball, it’s comical to listen to the announcers try to get the fans to “stuff the ballot box” for their players for the All-star game.
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
9:23 pm
JJ is a pitch to contact pitcher like Huddy, he’s going to give up hits
He is not Tim Hudson.
Rico
July 3rd, 2012
9:23 pm
Freeman wasn’t running hard to first base.
The A Bomb
July 3rd, 2012
9:23 pm
I’m not sure even a 4-game sweep at the hands of the Cubs would mean the end of Gonzalez. He’ll survive just to keep screwing with our minds.
brian
July 3rd, 2012
9:23 pm
Spending the breaks voting for bourn
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
July 3rd, 2012
9:23 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan, how many games has Dan Uggla played at 2nd base this season and why has it adversely affected his offense?
I wait with bated breath for your enlightening genius to wash over this blog
George
July 3rd, 2012
9:24 pm
George
July 3rd, 2012
9:06 pm
This was not me.
Arkansas Transplant
July 3rd, 2012
9:24 pm
It should one to zero!
Duke
July 3rd, 2012
9:24 pm
That last pitch is plenty fast enough for JJ to be successful. 91
brian
July 3rd, 2012
9:24 pm
Over/under of fredi getting fired if
1. Braves get swept by the cubs
2. Braves limp into the break 2-7
brian
July 3rd, 2012
9:25 pm
Enter your comments here2-5, excuse me
archie
July 3rd, 2012
9:25 pm
9 hits so far. Jurrjens playing the role of Livan Hernandez tonight.
usnavyvolfaninva
July 3rd, 2012
9:25 pm
Nope…definitely not our year.
Jake W.
July 3rd, 2012
9:25 pm
JJ is a pitch to contact pitcher like Huddy, he’s going to give up hits
He is not Tim Hudson.
Keyword there was like, they go about it in different ways but they pitch to contact, that was the point and the only one.
Doug
July 3rd, 2012
9:26 pm
I wonder if Danny Ferry would consider a 2nd job? The Braves need some serious shaking up by someone with some imagination. This is just too painful to watch.
old man
July 3rd, 2012
9:26 pm
I have no tv on this game, following on the board. Someone says Chipper should have had another error. The other night, Chipper should not have had the error taken away in a 3 error inning. Uggla and Chipper are both costing us big time on defense. After a big start at the plate, Chipper has been moving in slow motion, has had a lot of weak swings from both sides of the plate. He’s not a contributor right now. Odd that we have two “all-stars” who are both not producing.
Bronke
July 3rd, 2012
9:26 pm
Ladies and gents. This is your 2012 Atlanta Braves! Can we all give them a standing O? When will the madness end? Cubs laughing at the Braves in their dugout
MFin04
July 3rd, 2012
9:26 pm
“I’m not sure even a 4-game sweep at the hands of the Cubs would mean the end of Gonzalez”
Heck DOB wouldn’t even think it was a disgrace since the Cubs are soo good this year.
Arkansas Transplant
July 3rd, 2012
9:26 pm
If your the Cubs, you should feel pretty good about possibly sweeping us at home. Given who pitches over the next 2 nights.
bustersonly
July 3rd, 2012
9:27 pm
I could understand having a 230 hitter making the All Star game if he had 25 home runs.
bustersonly
July 3rd, 2012
9:27 pm
I could understand having a 230 hitter making the All Star game if he had 25 home runs.
FEAR
July 3rd, 2012
9:27 pm
Mordecai “3 finger” Centennial Peter Volstad beating the Braves, eh?
T-Dawg
July 3rd, 2012
9:28 pm
There just aren’t words to describe how underwhelming this team has been the last two years. This team needs to do some selling at the trade deadline and hope there are teams desperate enough to want some very average players.
Waffle House or Bust
July 3rd, 2012
9:28 pm
FRANK WREN….
Put on your big boy pants and fire Fredi. This team is uninspired and just going through the motions. Save the season and let TP manage rest of season. Lets see what happens. Don’t sit around and let another year go by like you did last season with not firing Parrish when you had the chance.
Pluto
July 3rd, 2012
9:28 pm
I haven’t heard any viable discussion of Fredi being on the hot seat. I don’t think there’s a chance he gets fired this season.
old man
July 3rd, 2012
9:28 pm
Playing like this against the Cubs is embarrassing. Our record against the Nats is embarrassing.
Delgado and Minor were both on our “untouchable” list. The next time someone tells you a player is untouchable, tell them they are full of crap. No one should ever be considered untouchable.
brian
July 3rd, 2012
9:29 pm
Didn’t think scoria no could run anymore
ncbravesfan90
July 3rd, 2012
9:29 pm
Hudson pitches to contact with a sinker and gets ground balls to show for it. JJ pitches to contact with no sinker.
Rick
July 3rd, 2012
9:29 pm
old man, Chipper is 2 for 2 today and has extended his hitting streak to 10 games. That’s not producing?
Braint
July 3rd, 2012
9:30 pm
Old Man, .300, 6HR, 30 RBI……Chipper has produced when he plays.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
9:30 pm
heOnlyBravesFan, how many games has Dan Uggla played at 2nd base this season and why has it adversely affected his offense?
I wait with bated breath for your enlightening genius to wash over this blog
He’s started every single game he’s played at 2B…. the only think that’s affected his offense is his lack of rest and the fact that every one slumps. He would still be a horrible LF….
ChattTownBrian
July 3rd, 2012
9:30 pm
Maybe Uggla will start groping opposing players at 2nd base instead of our guys. Rub some of that error/out funk on them for a change …
TuffShhhtuff
July 3rd, 2012
9:30 pm
“Pluto”, who was the lucky guy Beth Kenner was supposedly sexually harassing?
brian
July 3rd, 2012
9:30 pm
I would be fine with TP managing the rest of the season. Of course I would be fine with about anybody but Bobby V managing the braves right now
FireFrediot!!!
July 3rd, 2012
9:30 pm
GET RID OF UGGLA & MCCANN!!!!! GET RID OF UGGLA & MCCANN!!! GET RID OF UGGLA & MCCANN!!!
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
9:31 pm
The Cubs are playing pretty well in this series, thus far. They have left plenty of men on base, but have taken advantage of the Braves mistakes and score enough to win.
bustersonly
July 3rd, 2012
9:31 pm
I don’t think that anyone currently associated with this team should manage it when Fredi does depart, need an outsider, no favorites.
FEAR
July 3rd, 2012
9:31 pm
The Braves do not like rocking the boat during the season. They are the “gentlemen’s team”. They won’t fire fat fred
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
9:31 pm
JJ did ok there…. he escaped a leadoff hit.
The A Bomb
July 3rd, 2012
9:31 pm
Just been confirmed that the ball Uggla threw in the 3rd inning has now been designated space junk.
UNCBrave
July 3rd, 2012
9:31 pm
Braves are playing TIGHT while the Cubs are playing LOOSE..
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
9:32 pm
bustersonly
I agree. The next Braves manager needs to be someone without any Braves association. The culture needs to change in Atlanta. It was an outstanding culture in the 1990s, but it long since grown stagnant.
abeeewright
July 3rd, 2012
9:32 pm
“Lower third of the order up for the Braves”
Translation … don’t take a pee break if you want to see Braves on offense this inning.
Capt.Mudd
July 3rd, 2012
9:32 pm
I wonder sometimes what some of these guys would be up to if they didn’t play ball? Like Dan Uggla? He could be a fireman imo, at least when things got ‘hot’ they would stay that way for a while….and, Franscisco, he could be a Butcher at some market [read:Wal-Mart]….using knives and blades…he would be sure to sharpen hit athletic skills. I could go on, but I hasten to since it only fills the silly time during a real silly game—Volstadt?
Pluto
July 3rd, 2012
9:32 pm
I doubt Beth Keener was harassing anyone. I’d bet it was the other way around. And by someone high enough in the organization to keep his job while she gets let go.
MFin04
July 3rd, 2012
9:32 pm
Nice job Jurrjens, always clutch with guys on base. Love it.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
9:33 pm
Guillen is a great manager…. we need a guy like him
clarkspencer @clarkspencer
Ozzie Guillen went on post-game, profanity-laced rant in clubhouse, for all to hear, ripping pitchers after Tuesday’s loss.
archie
July 3rd, 2012
9:33 pm
1. Jair, you might as well put it on a tee, the way you’re serving it up there.
2. Someone suggested putting Uggla in LF. I agree. Lower or upper deck?
3. To the ATL home-cookin’ scorer who didn’t give Chipper an error: what?
4. Is Freeman dragging a piano when he runs down the first base line?
5. If the Braves lose tonight, and at least one more against this AAA team, Fredi can call Delta.
6. Volstad came in with an ERA resembling the national debt, Suddenly he’s Greg Maddux.
Jake W.
July 3rd, 2012
9:33 pm
Hudson pitches to contact with a sinker and gets ground balls to show for it. JJ pitches to contact with no sinker.
So are you saying they both pitch to contact?
When JJ doesn’t hit his spots he gives up hits, when Huddy doesn’t hit his spots he gives up hits (see Sunday). Sometimes when they both hit there spots they give up hits because they are contact pitchers.
JEB
July 3rd, 2012
9:33 pm
Why do the Braves make these terrible pitchers look like Cy Young?
There is absolutely no way these 5 + ERA guys come in here and pitch the game of their life against the Braves. We are not that lucky – nor are they!
FEAR
July 3rd, 2012
9:34 pm
I nominate Bobby the Brain Heenan for Braves Manager.
Brava
July 3rd, 2012
9:34 pm
BMac!!!
cabravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
9:34 pm
That’s nice to see from Mac
The A Bomb
July 3rd, 2012
9:34 pm
Robot Gonzalez is going to hit for JJ. Here comes our outstanding ‘pen, baby!
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
9:34 pm
though he did say this
clarkspencer @clarkspencer
Guillen said it’s unfair that Heath Bell gets most of the blame when other pitchers were just as responsible in 13-12 loss.
Kevin McAlpin @KevinMcAlpin
80 pitches through 5 for Jair Jurrjens. He’s allowed 3 runs, however none of them have been earned, on 9 hits.
5 innings? 9 hits, 80 pitches? He’s lucky for the errors, he should have some earned runs
YAY!!! He got a hit, but he’s still not back….
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
July 3rd, 2012
9:34 pm
A HIT!! By golly!!
That was a beauty…
phil
July 3rd, 2012
9:34 pm
A rare sight for mcFatty….
A hit!!
old man
July 3rd, 2012
9:35 pm
We are at the halfway mark. 12hr and 60 rbi is producing for Chipper? And, he is not pulling his weight in the field. The real issue I was addressing was our defensive problems. 2b and 3b are our problems.
Tracy
July 3rd, 2012
9:35 pm
JJ even with his 87 mph fastball has pitched pretty good tonight, 0 earned runs. It is like Ralph has said so many times on this blog that the problem with this team is not pitching, it is hitting.
JEB
July 3rd, 2012
9:35 pm
That will beat the shift every day BMAC!
Capt.Mudd
July 3rd, 2012
9:35 pm
Yeah baby….Legend, Joe Simpson on the call for The Braves network
brian
July 3rd, 2012
9:35 pm
Great job mccann
Carroll Rogers
July 3rd, 2012
9:35 pm
McCann broke up an 0-for-14 with that single to left to start the fifth
FEAR
July 3rd, 2012
9:35 pm
yes! go simmons!
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
9:35 pm
Nice job Jurrjens, always clutch with guys on base. Love it
Obsession.
abeeewright
July 3rd, 2012
9:35 pm
Did Bigfoot just run across the outfield? Did a UFO land in CF?
No. It’s even more unlikely.
McCann just got an opposite field hit.
Brava
July 3rd, 2012
9:35 pm
Woohoo!
cabravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
9:35 pm
That is nice to see too
VaBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
9:35 pm
Cubs are easily handling us.
The A Bomb
July 3rd, 2012
9:35 pm
Take that, Satan!
Le Fan
July 3rd, 2012
9:35 pm
I live in NY and when i watch what terry colloins is doing with that met team it makes me wonder how much better the braves would be with someone like him at the helm
This Braves team takes on the persona of its manager to a tee
Fat, lazy and clueless
VaBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
9:35 pm
Here’s our chance.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
9:35 pm
Dumb defensive play…. take JJ out here…. he didn’t conserve pitches well enough to get to hit
Pluto
July 3rd, 2012
9:35 pm
A big mouth like Guillen doesn’t fit the organization. Screaming doesn’t necessarily help.
brian
July 3rd, 2012
9:35 pm
Enter your comments hereSpeed and hustle – love to see it from simmons
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
9:36 pm
Brian McCann hitting a pitch to left field is a sign of the apocalypse. Every one needs to take cover.
ChattTownBrian
July 3rd, 2012
9:36 pm
Again – no bunt from fredi.
The A Bomb
July 3rd, 2012
9:36 pm
WHY? HAVE JJ BUNT!
Capt.Mudd
July 3rd, 2012
9:36 pm
Just great athletic hustle for sim
brian
July 3rd, 2012
9:36 pm
Big at bat here from hinske
tiger297
July 3rd, 2012
9:36 pm
holy stupid moves
archie
July 3rd, 2012
9:36 pm
All we need is a bunt. And we get Hinske. Thank you Frediot.
FEAR
July 3rd, 2012
9:36 pm
Never mind that $h!t, here comes Durbin!
Brava
July 3rd, 2012
9:36 pm
Why is he taking JJ out?
abeeewright
July 3rd, 2012
9:36 pm
Bad decision by Fredo. Jurrjens is pitching a nice game. Hinske has been a dreadful pinch hitter.
TuffShhhtuff
July 3rd, 2012
9:36 pm
Oh yeah, I forgot, it’s ALWAYS the males harassing the females! Innocent little “beings”!
old man
July 3rd, 2012
9:37 pm
I know Chipper’s numbers are down because of injuries, but that’s been part of his problem.
The sad part is, that even with what I see to be his decline at the plate, he is still probably the hitter opposing pitchers fear the most. Sad commentary on our offense.
Pluto
July 3rd, 2012
9:37 pm
Let’s get JJ some runs here; he has pitched well enough to get a win.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
9:37 pm
Volstad in trouble here….
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
9:37 pm
I call a bad at bat here from Hinske.
MFin04
July 3rd, 2012
9:37 pm
WHY THE HELL IS JURRJENS NOT BUNTING!? RIDICULOUS.
ChattTownBrian
July 3rd, 2012
9:37 pm
Murphy questioning Fredi pinch hitting for JJ here.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
9:37 pm
Volstad in trouble here….
Don’t swing Hinske
brian
July 3rd, 2012
9:37 pm
. Bunt the pitcher with 2 on no out or go for broke with Hinske? Big call by fredi
JEB
July 3rd, 2012
9:37 pm
WHY pull Jurrgens after only 80 pitches??
He CAN bunt the runners over!
It’s only the 5th inning – not the 7th or 8th
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
9:38 pm
Why is he taking JJ out?
9 hits?
cabravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
9:38 pm
I call a bad at bat here from Hinske.
Yup. terrible…
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
9:38 pm
Bases loaded for Bourn…. I love it. Our top 2 hitters coming up to hit. Bourn needs a clutch hit.
tiger297
July 3rd, 2012
9:38 pm
love it when a plan comes together…
Jerry
July 3rd, 2012
9:38 pm
bases loaded and no one out. How will the Braves blow this opportunity?
MFin04
July 3rd, 2012
9:38 pm
Efrim – You are just a hater. Guy could throw a perfect game and you’d still think he doesn’t strike enough guys out or throw hard enough.
boondawg
July 3rd, 2012
9:38 pm
Volstad just saved Fredi’s rear end!
Bravefaninok
July 3rd, 2012
9:38 pm
F-bomb from the mound that time….it is an epidemic.
ChattTownBrian
July 3rd, 2012
9:38 pm
Gapper from Bourn would be sweeeeeeeeeet
Harpie
July 3rd, 2012
9:38 pm
Bases loaded, no outs. I’ll bet a million the Braves don’t score this inning…
old man
July 3rd, 2012
9:39 pm
What an idiot.
Have JJ bunt, you moron.
brian
July 3rd, 2012
9:39 pm
Nothing wrong with bunting the tying runs into scoring position with nobody out and Bourn/Prado coming up
Of course a walk works well too
phil
July 3rd, 2012
9:39 pm
If they blow this…..against Volstad?
Sigh….
cabravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
9:39 pm
Bunting the runners over is good. Moving the runners over without sacrificing an out is better
ramblinwreck80
July 3rd, 2012
9:39 pm
grand slam?
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
9:39 pm
Alright, my proactive pessimism paid off. Hinske worked a good at bat. Now Bourn needs to keep the line moving.
brian
July 3rd, 2012
9:39 pm
Huge hit by Bourn!!!!!!!
cabravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
9:39 pm
MIKEY!!!!!
BFChris27
July 3rd, 2012
9:40 pm
Bourn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ekim
July 3rd, 2012
9:40 pm
YES! YES! YES!
Jake W.
July 3rd, 2012
9:40 pm
Proof its Tuesday
ChattTownBrian
July 3rd, 2012
9:40 pm
And I called it … gapper
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
9:40 pm
WHY THE HELL IS JURRJENS NOT BUNTING!? RIDICULOUS.
He wasn’t fooling anyone. 9 hits in 5 innings.
Sopheee
July 3rd, 2012
9:40 pm
Vote for Bourn.
ncbravesfan90
July 3rd, 2012
9:40 pm
How in the heck did Hinske score on that? Dang!!!!! Go Braves!!
Brava
July 3rd, 2012
9:40 pm
Mikey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TNScott
July 3rd, 2012
9:40 pm
BOURN FREE!!!
njbraves
July 3rd, 2012
9:40 pm
Needed that in the worst way…atta boy Mike.
Harpie
July 3rd, 2012
9:40 pm
It’s a f -ing miracle!!!!
One Big Dummy
July 3rd, 2012
9:40 pm
VOTE FOR BOURN!!!!!!!
abeeewright
July 3rd, 2012
9:40 pm
Jurrjens might get the win tonight if the bullpen can hold the lead.
THAT’s why Volstad has a 5+ ERA.
boondawg
July 3rd, 2012
9:40 pm
Ok, so I underestimated Hinske on the scoring from first there.
cabravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
9:40 pm
grand slam?
Next best thing
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
9:40 pm
BOURN!!!!
JEB
July 3rd, 2012
9:40 pm
Just pulled JJ out of the loss column !
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
July 3rd, 2012
9:40 pm
BOO-YAH!!!
VaBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
9:40 pm
Bourn comes threw.
Jerry
July 3rd, 2012
9:40 pm
How about that. Nice to have real hitters coming up with runners on.
archie
July 3rd, 2012
9:40 pm
Thank you Volstad. Your walk to Hinske proves you are indeed as bad as advertised.
Hmmmm
July 3rd, 2012
9:40 pm
bad thing about JJ being the type of pitcher who gives up a lot of hits; it shoots up the pitch count which makes for an early exit and then the pen has to come in and work almost as long as he did
ramblinwreck80
July 3rd, 2012
9:40 pm
ok…a 3 RBI double will work just fine!
Bravefaninok
July 3rd, 2012
9:40 pm
Bournnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn supremacy!!!!!!!
phil
July 3rd, 2012
9:41 pm
Nice! Well done, Mike!
I hate bunts.
MFin04
July 3rd, 2012
9:41 pm
Get Jurrjens a Win, boys!
Keep adding on. You owe him one! (Yes, obsession.)
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
9:41 pm
That’s why JJ came out…. He can get a win now too. I agreed with Fredi there. JJ didn’t need to continue in the game
TNScott
July 3rd, 2012
9:41 pm
Will Fredi bunt here?
old man
July 3rd, 2012
9:41 pm
Like I said, pull JJ, have Hinske bat.
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
9:41 pm
Nice, Bourn!
FEAR
July 3rd, 2012
9:41 pm
hopefully the pen can hold this
Rick
July 3rd, 2012
9:41 pm
Gonna go put in a few more Bourn votes right now…
MFin04
July 3rd, 2012
9:42 pm
“bad thing about JJ being the type of pitcher who gives up a lot of hits; it shoots up the pitch count”
Actually quite the opposite, it keeps his pitch count down. Errors will shoot your pitch count up, though.
Le Fan
July 3rd, 2012
9:42 pm
Like the pen is gonna hold this lead
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
9:42 pm
He wasn’t fooling anyone. 9 hits in 5 innings.
This. He’s “lucky” his defense made the runs unearned.
Told you guys Bourn was gonna get a clutch hit.
Good job Prado!
Brava
July 3rd, 2012
9:42 pm
Marteen!!!
N Nine
July 3rd, 2012
9:42 pm
Bourn baby Bourn!!!!
We just cannot lose this guy. No way!!!
Bravefaninok
July 3rd, 2012
9:42 pm
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
July 3rd, 2012
9:40 pm
BOO-YAH!!!
That line drive to LF was a thing of beauty ….Good sign for Mac!!!!
TNScott
July 3rd, 2012
9:42 pm
TEEN SPIRIT!!!!
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
9:42 pm
What an idiot.
Have JJ bunt, you moron.
HA!
keylargo
July 3rd, 2012
9:42 pm
I luv SF’s.
bird
July 3rd, 2012
9:42 pm
And that my friends is an All-Star. #Bourn
BFChris27
July 3rd, 2012
9:43 pm
Marteeeeeeeeeen!!!!!!!!!!!
brian
July 3rd, 2012
9:43 pm
Great at bat by prado
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
9:43 pm
JHEY!!!!!! OPPOSITE FIELD!!!!
Mixxo
July 3rd, 2012
9:43 pm
This looks a little better.
cabravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
9:43 pm
JASON!!!!!!!
bird
July 3rd, 2012
9:43 pm
J-Hey!
BFChris27
July 3rd, 2012
9:43 pm
JHey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MFin04
July 3rd, 2012
9:43 pm
This team learned how to hit the sac fly in the off-season apparently. Love it.
Brava
July 3rd, 2012
9:43 pm
Jason with da Bomb!!!!!!!
Bobby's Cox
July 3rd, 2012
9:43 pm
Still sad Prado’s not an all-star
abeeewright
July 3rd, 2012
9:43 pm
Thought that sac fly was a rally killer, but Heyward went ahead and put a death nail in this rally with a home run.
TNScott
July 3rd, 2012
9:43 pm
SAY J-HEY!!!
brian
July 3rd, 2012
9:43 pm
Enter your comments hereDrilled by heyward. Followed his earlier great at bat
FEAR
July 3rd, 2012
9:43 pm
nice job there heyward!
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
9:43 pm
We have new BMacs (and Uggla’s for the time being)… Their names are Bourn, Prado, and Heyward
Sopheee
July 3rd, 2012
9:44 pm
Do it, Jason.
ChattTownBrian
July 3rd, 2012
9:44 pm
That was CLUBBED
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
July 3rd, 2012
9:44 pm
This is FUN!!
Good things happen when BMac hits!…
Bravefaninok
July 3rd, 2012
9:44 pm
J- Heyyyyyyyyyyy hitting is contagious and Mac infected the whole damn team!!!!!!
George Stein
July 3rd, 2012
9:44 pm
When are they gonna stop pitching to him, Efrim!
VaBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
9:44 pm
Heyward goes BOOM!
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
9:44 pm
Volstad goes winless 20 straight starts now…. we rock. Told ya guys not to give up…
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
9:44 pm
He pulled Jurrjens at the right time. He wasn’t really fooling any of the Cub hitters.
old man
July 3rd, 2012
9:44 pm
Heyward the opposite way! Has he suddenly started to figure this out? The past month he has been going to left. What happened?
Bat Masterson
July 3rd, 2012
9:44 pm
Well not a walk but it’ll do, Jason
N Nine
July 3rd, 2012
9:44 pm
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MFin04
July 3rd, 2012
9:44 pm
Our whole outfield should be at the All-Star game.
phil
July 3rd, 2012
9:45 pm
Heyward unloads, mac singles, bourn triples, sac fly by prado….
Huh?
TBbravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
9:45 pm
Hey yall what’s going on here.
tiger297
July 3rd, 2012
9:45 pm
still only 1 out…I’m greedy gimme more
brian
July 3rd, 2012
9:45 pm
Enter your comments here
TNScott
July 3rd, 2012
9:46 pm
J-HEY turns that sinker into a stinker for Cubs fans.
MFin04
July 3rd, 2012
9:46 pm
“He pulled Jurrjens at the right time. He wasn’t really fooling any of the Cub hitters.”
Yeh, they were just crushing all those soft liners.
tiger297
July 3rd, 2012
9:46 pm
nebody have ski’s numbers vs voldstadt? just curious
brian
July 3rd, 2012
9:46 pm
Keep voting for Bourn during the breaks
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
9:46 pm
Prado should of been an All-Star. He’s been awesome.
Jake W.
July 3rd, 2012
9:46 pm
He’s “lucky” his defense made the runs unearned.
Well that’s one way to look at it. With the way our rotation looks you would think people would pull for JJ to do well. He has given us 3 good starts since he has been back. Not the JJ of old but also not the JJ that was getting lit up at the beginning of the season.
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
9:46 pm
Great inning thus far. A few more would be nice to fend off a potential late Cubs rally. It is still tough to trust the bullpen right now.
MFin04
July 3rd, 2012
9:47 pm
Did Bourn really triple? Didn’t notice if it was a double or triple…
Capt.Mudd
July 3rd, 2012
9:47 pm
Manuel Corpus Christy…..Texas boy I see
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
9:47 pm
Yeah!!!! YOU GO HOSS!
Brava
July 3rd, 2012
9:47 pm
I don’t agree with taking JJ out and hope it doesn’t come back to bite Fredi in the ass. We don’t have the greatest bullpen in the world.
cabravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
9:47 pm
OLD MAN!!!
BFChris27
July 3rd, 2012
9:47 pm
Old Man!!!!!!!!!!!!!
keylargo
July 3rd, 2012
9:47 pm
Like I said, Chipper is made for the #2 slot these days.
Jerry
July 3rd, 2012
9:47 pm
MFin04
July 3rd, 2012
9:44 pm
Our whole outfield should be at the All-Star game.
You got that right!
ncbravesfan90
July 3rd, 2012
9:47 pm
Whoever on here said Chipper was going to have a huge night, I tip my cap to you.
Kat
July 3rd, 2012
9:47 pm
There’s our outfield folks.
VaBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
9:47 pm
Chipper having a heck of a night.
old man
July 3rd, 2012
9:48 pm
Ok, everything I said about Chipper’s hitting was bullcr*p. I’m an idiot. I take it all back.
Brava
July 3rd, 2012
9:48 pm
Chipper!
Duke
July 3rd, 2012
9:48 pm
Who called Chipper having a HUGE game? Oh yeah, I did.
Mixxo
July 3rd, 2012
9:48 pm
“Hey yall what’s going on here.”
Dunno but, I’m liking it.
TNScott
July 3rd, 2012
9:48 pm
Hoss wearing out the left field line.
brian
July 3rd, 2012
9:48 pm
Maybe the all star nod is all the old man needed to jump start things
MFin04
July 3rd, 2012
9:49 pm
Are they seriously shifting Chipper? How stupid can you be? Probably the best directional hitter in the league.
Carroll Rogers
July 3rd, 2012
9:49 pm
Line on Jurrjens: 5 IP, 9 hits, three unearned runs, two Ks. 80 pitches (59 strikes)
Jake W.
July 3rd, 2012
9:49 pm
Future hall of famer still getting it done. My hope is that the other hitters are taking note.
phil
July 3rd, 2012
9:49 pm
Play on, Chipper Jones!!
Where are the idiots who said he was done 2 weeks ago?
Capt.Mudd
July 3rd, 2012
9:49 pm
Chipper, showing them there’s value in standing up to be counted–role model, team playa
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
9:49 pm
MFin04: Triple
He pulled Jurrjens at the right time. He wasn’t really fooling any of the Cub hitters.
Agree. Guess all the JJ lovers don’t get that. But then they’d hate Fredi for leaving him in too long,
The Braves been hitting this inning, Dan’s about to hit. Home run right here.
Jerry
July 3rd, 2012
9:49 pm
That’s funny. Walking Freddie to get to Uggla. How low he has gone.
brian
July 3rd, 2012
9:49 pm
The braves do rally around chipper
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
9:49 pm
Nice walk there by Freeman. Hah!
Panamajack
July 3rd, 2012
9:49 pm
OK guys lets see if you going to give it all back this inning like you always do.
MFin04
July 3rd, 2012
9:49 pm
Good time as any for Uggla to break out of this.
brian
July 3rd, 2012
9:49 pm
Unlucky by uggla
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
9:49 pm
damn it! Uggs can’t get a break. BMac has jinxed him
Brava
July 3rd, 2012
9:49 pm
That was just bad luck there.
N Nine
July 3rd, 2012
9:49 pm
Chipper sitting pretty at .304! LOL, Hall Of Fame fo sho!
Duke
July 3rd, 2012
9:49 pm
Thanks ncbravesfan90 for noticing.
Rick
July 3rd, 2012
9:50 pm
The Braves’ outfield has been a great bright spot this season, especially considering it was so bad last year. There was an article on ESPN recently about the Giants’ OF, and they mentioned that they were second in combined WAR to the Braves’ OF.
TBbravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
9:50 pm
well if ol uggs could get it going now.
ncbravesfan90
July 3rd, 2012
9:50 pm
“Thanks ncbravesfan90 for noticing.”
No problem, kudos to you!
Rick
July 3rd, 2012
9:50 pm
More good contact for Uggla though. He’s coming around…
FEAR
July 3rd, 2012
9:50 pm
getting sick of uggla
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
9:50 pm
At least he is making contact, but that is when you know you are going bad when you have a double robbed from you that becomes a GIDP.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
9:51 pm
I’m gonna hafta unleash some BMac hate… maybe that’ll get Uggs going. He wouldn’t want to feel my wrath
Jerry
July 3rd, 2012
9:51 pm
And that is that. Thanks Uggla. You should change your name to “all star”.
tiger297
July 3rd, 2012
9:51 pm
ripped
Bronke
July 3rd, 2012
9:51 pm
Le fan
I was thinking the same thing. I live up northeast also and love Terry Collins. He would be great for the Braves!
MFin04
July 3rd, 2012
9:51 pm
Chipper at .304 is pretty cool. On base has got to be close to .400 now too.
Charlie
July 3rd, 2012
9:51 pm
Even when he hits it hard, ALL STAR DAN creates a double play, and kills the rally. That’s the Braves ALL STAR, ladies and gentlemen, Worthless Dan Uggla.
keylargo
July 3rd, 2012
9:51 pm
Vote for Borne
http://www.mlb.com/vote
Duke
July 3rd, 2012
9:52 pm
Duggla gets robbed. That’s how it goes when you’re in a rut.
phil
July 3rd, 2012
9:52 pm
Cy Volstad is dispatched by us for a change…..whew.
N Nine
July 3rd, 2012
9:52 pm
MEDS!!! OMG, this only gets better!
Capt.Mudd
July 3rd, 2012
9:53 pm
Bourn baby Bourn….disco inferno/ Bourn baby Bourn……don’t turn the brotha down…..got to resign him…….Bourn baby Bourn…..Wren don’t be no clown……….B
FEAR
July 3rd, 2012
9:53 pm
borne should have been voted in 1st time
phil
July 3rd, 2012
9:54 pm
Uggla will be back…
Problem is, he’ll disappear again in september.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
9:54 pm
More good contact for Uggla though. He’s coming around…
Indeed. He just got robbed there, but it was solid contact. July 5th is almost here…. this is how he started his hitting streak last year
Meds looking good. Better than JJ…
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
9:55 pm
Uggla will be back…
Problem is, he’ll disappear again in september.
No he won’t… JJ and BMac will though….
phoenix
July 3rd, 2012
9:55 pm
Joe Mather still has a job? This proves there are too many big league teams.
MFin04
July 3rd, 2012
9:55 pm
This voting is exhausting.
Duke
July 3rd, 2012
9:56 pm
Holy hell! The White Sox are up 16-0 on the Rangers!
keylargo
July 3rd, 2012
9:56 pm
Well vote now for Bourn. The address is
http://www.mlb.com/vote
Jake W.
July 3rd, 2012
9:56 pm
Meds looking good. Better than JJ…
For tonight at least, been a little disappointed in Meds this year but he is coming back from injury and didn’t pitch much last year so i’ll give him a break.
Sopheee
July 3rd, 2012
9:57 pm
Nice inning, Meds.
phil
July 3rd, 2012
9:57 pm
Now that’s what we need out of the pen after an inning like that.
Outs. 3 of em. In short order.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
9:57 pm
ok key!!!
Wow Duke, How’d Youk do?
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
9:57 pm
Keep Meds out there for a 2nd inning, Fredi.
FEAR
July 3rd, 2012
9:58 pm
yeah the rangers pitching will be their achilles heel
phoenix
July 3rd, 2012
9:58 pm
Has Uggla ever hit the ball hard consistently over the course of an entire season? Or are we supposed to be thrilled with his few-and-far-between streaks?
Bobby's Cox
July 3rd, 2012
9:58 pm
The Rangers will come back.
brian
July 3rd, 2012
9:58 pm
Strong inning from medlen
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
9:58 pm
he is coming back from injury and didn’t pitch much last year so i’ll give him a break.
As we should….
Brava
July 3rd, 2012
9:58 pm
Good work. Meds.
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
9:58 pm
That is as good as Medlen has looked in several outings. Hopefully he can continue to pitch well for a few more innings.
Duke
July 3rd, 2012
9:59 pm
Youk is 3-4 with a HR and 4 RBI’s
MFin04
July 3rd, 2012
9:59 pm
Would be nice to keep Meds in there for the rest of the game. He can get a save too right.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
9:59 pm
Duke: Nice!
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
10:00 pm
phoenix
Joe Mather still has a job? This proves there are too many big league teams.
Tell me about it. That guy had about 4 good games for the Braves, but he sucked.
TuffShhhtuff
July 3rd, 2012
10:00 pm
If there is such a thing as “KARMA” Uggla will have a huge all star game, the NL will win, and Uggla gets MVP. That’s how Karma usually works.
TNScott
July 3rd, 2012
10:00 pm
Good inning by Kris. I’d like chances much better the next two days if he were starting.
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
July 3rd, 2012
10:00 pm
Thank God…….
The Cubbies finally showed up to play.
brian
July 3rd, 2012
10:00 pm
3 moves I would make now:
1. Delgado and the Terd for greinke
2. Venters and A level pitcher to angels for boujos and Richard
3. Medlen to the Royals for Aaron Crow and a prospect
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
10:01 pm
Bmac hasn’t hit much lately and they walk him? Sign of a “bad” pitcher
tiger297
July 3rd, 2012
10:01 pm
we gonna let medlen hit
Capt.Mudd
July 3rd, 2012
10:01 pm
Meds seem to be working tonight!
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
July 3rd, 2012
10:01 pm
That’s good, too—a walk. Hasn’t gotten one of those in a while, and I believe his last one was an iBB…
brian
July 3rd, 2012
10:02 pm
No way they double up Simmons. Speed and hustle
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
10:02 pm
Double from Meds
cabravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
10:02 pm
I so love that Meds is a switch hitter
Justin
July 3rd, 2012
10:02 pm
Brian your an idiot
tiger297
July 3rd, 2012
10:03 pm
heck yeah let him swing the bat
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
10:03 pm
tiger297
July 3rd, 2012
10:03 pm
meds gotta keep that OPS up there…
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
July 3rd, 2012
10:03 pm
Pulling JJ after five innings and 80 pitches…..whatever happened to the game of nine inning baseball.
brian
July 3rd, 2012
10:03 pm
Insurance runs would be nice. Medlen is better at the plate than Wilson
Mixxo
July 3rd, 2012
10:04 pm
Meds ‘looks’ like a hitter.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
10:04 pm
This guy can’t pitch. Walking the pitcher!!!
FEAR
July 3rd, 2012
10:05 pm
The nats do not have anyone hitting 300 or above. Yet almost all of their batters are hitting between 270 and 290.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
10:05 pm
#VoteBourn is trending on Twitter… let’s get this done!
brian
July 3rd, 2012
10:05 pm
Braves try to give the cubs an out and they wlk him.bad baseball. Make them pay MB
cabravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
10:06 pm
Michael Bourn is trending in Los Angeles…that has to be good
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
10:06 pm
Insurance runs would be nice. Medlen is better at the plate than Wilson
Lol, it could be true!
Looks like Prado might get a chance for a Grand Salami… this guy can’t throw a strike
brian
July 3rd, 2012
10:06 pm
Offer Bourn 4 year $50 million now
tiger297
July 3rd, 2012
10:07 pm
wasn’t medlen a switch hitting shortstop who converted to a pitcher very late…
Ekim
July 3rd, 2012
10:07 pm
LOL Walk the bases loaded.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
10:07 pm
Prado coming up for the Grand Salami.
BFChris27
July 3rd, 2012
10:07 pm
Jairo Asencio is warming up for Cubs.
phil
July 3rd, 2012
10:07 pm
Michael Take The Money And Run Bourn….
phoenix
July 3rd, 2012
10:07 pm
I’m glad the real Cubs finally showed up. We were expecting them last night.
brian
July 3rd, 2012
10:08 pm
Prado can do some damage here
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
10:08 pm
I am loving the walks the Braves hitters are working tonight.
cricket
July 3rd, 2012
10:08 pm
i would actually have tiny bit of respect for people saying that defense “saved” JJ by letting in un-earned runs or whining that he didn’t miss any bats – even when they know that’s not his game, if they just say that JJ is a POS they wish to get rid of, instead of this passive aggressive crap and pretending to sort of supporting him and hoping that he has some success for braves’ sake. at least uggla and Fredi haters have their own power of conviction behind their hatred.
cabravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
10:08 pm
tiger-
I believe Meds was a short stop in college, so I would think you are correct
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
10:09 pm
Jordan Zimmermann is nasty.
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
10:09 pm
hitters ain’t really working walks off these guys, most of them are nowhere near strikes
cabravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
10:10 pm
Yep- Looking it up, Meds was the SS and apparently the closer for his JUCO team…a lot of teams were interested in him as an infielder
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
10:10 pm
wasn’t medlen a switch hitting shortstop who converted to a pitcher very late…
Yep…. he can be our backup SS
Grand Salami Prado!
TNScott
July 3rd, 2012
10:10 pm
Phoenix- You can’t spell “scrubs” without the C-U-B-S!!!
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
10:10 pm
The need to take advantage of this situation and get at least one more run.
cabravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
10:11 pm
Right guy at the plate
BFChris27
July 3rd, 2012
10:11 pm
This is why I wasn’t really impressed with Asencio.
Ekim
July 3rd, 2012
10:11 pm
Wow, that’s a run.
cabravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
10:11 pm
That will work…
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
10:11 pm
hitters ain’t really working walks off these guys, most of them are nowhere near strikes
This! BMac didn’t do anything special……
Walked in a run!!! Watch where you throw that ball though…
JHey coming with a slam here.
Venice Jim
July 3rd, 2012
10:11 pm
MARTEEENNN!!!
FEAR
July 3rd, 2012
10:12 pm
Will the real cubs please stand?
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
10:12 pm
asencio(sp) looks just as crappy as he did here
BFChris27
July 3rd, 2012
10:12 pm
Thanks Asencio!
tiger297
July 3rd, 2012
10:12 pm
need to get medlen in and let him sit for a couple batters b4 we end this inning
only once
July 3rd, 2012
10:13 pm
Don’t score too many runs now, you know what happen every time they score 10 runs in a game, they don’t score anymore for 5 days.
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
10:13 pm
4 walks!
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
10:13 pm
This is why I wasn’t really impressed with Asencio.
And is why I’m not impressed with C-Mart, Varvaro, Flande, etc….
tiger297
July 3rd, 2012
10:13 pm
I knew I was correct just didn’t want to come across as a knowitall
FEAR
July 3rd, 2012
10:14 pm
a former brave for once not making us look bad
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
10:14 pm
Geez, Jhey….
Well, here comes Chipper… go 4-4 and get 4 RBIs closer to the record
BFChris27
July 3rd, 2012
10:14 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan
To be fair, C-Mart has done a whole lot better than Asencio has ever done. Varvaro and Flande can’t really be judged as they haven’t been around that long.
phil
July 3rd, 2012
10:15 pm
Typical pathetic Heyward AB….
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
10:15 pm
shoulda hit that homer this inning. what a jerk. send Jason down
Ekim
July 3rd, 2012
10:15 pm
Chipper at bat again? He wouldn’t go 4-4, would he?
tiger297
July 3rd, 2012
10:15 pm
what are the odds they pitch chipper away or play the 3B off the line here?
VaBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
10:15 pm
Heyward fails in the easy rbi opportunity.
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
10:15 pm
Hah! Everyone walks…..except the guy with the 4th best walk rate in history for a rookie.
Whatever works for him, I guess….
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
10:16 pm
BFChris: True about C-Mart, but still, none of those guys impress me very much with mechanics and such…
HOSS!!!!
tiger297
July 3rd, 2012
10:16 pm
nolie – I said the same thing about simmons the other night…2 other situations his HR woulda won the game #slacker
Mixxo
July 3rd, 2012
10:16 pm
HOSSSSS!!
BFChris27
July 3rd, 2012
10:16 pm
Old Man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ekim
July 3rd, 2012
10:16 pm
YES! YES! YES! First four-hit game in three years!
cabravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
10:16 pm
OOOOOOOOLD MAAAAAAAANNNNNN!!!!!!!
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
10:16 pm
Darn. Jason was off balance.
FEAR
July 3rd, 2012
10:16 pm
wow……………the old fart. amazing!
tiger297
July 3rd, 2012
10:16 pm
hell yeah
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
July 3rd, 2012
10:16 pm
BALLGAME!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rick
July 3rd, 2012
10:16 pm
Wow
TNScott
July 3rd, 2012
10:16 pm
HOSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jake W.
July 3rd, 2012
10:16 pm
Old Man proving he deserved the nod
Brava
July 3rd, 2012
10:16 pm
CHIPPER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
July 3rd, 2012
10:16 pm
CHIPPER!! HAVE A NIGHT!!
Jerry
July 3rd, 2012
10:16 pm
Great slide by Prado. Have yourself a night Chipper.
brian
July 3rd, 2012
10:17 pm
Incredible hit by chipper. Even better slide by Marteeeeeen
MIBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
10:17 pm
Have yourself a night, Chipper! Great to see!
njbraves
July 3rd, 2012
10:17 pm
Chipper came to play tonight.
tiger297
July 3rd, 2012
10:17 pm
somebody remind freeman to take a couple here for medlen
VaBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
10:17 pm
Chipper putting a stamp on his All Star Nod.
cabravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
10:17 pm
I see someone finally rescued the real Chipper Jones from wherever he was being held…
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
10:17 pm
Old F@rts Rule, again…
N Nine
July 3rd, 2012
10:17 pm
Chipper .309!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ya!
Jerry
July 3rd, 2012
10:17 pm
2 more RBIs to tie George Brett for most by a third baseman.
BFChris27
July 3rd, 2012
10:17 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan
Fair enough, but I’d at least give Varvaro and Flande a chance before knocking them. I do agree that their mechanics can be tuned up a bit, but still can’t really judge them on the same scale, which is what I meant.
Abandon
July 3rd, 2012
10:18 pm
Damn, Chipper’s playing with a chip on his shoulder; isn’t he?
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
10:18 pm
Can’t Chipper play 1 more season? Please?
BFChris27
July 3rd, 2012
10:18 pm
Chipper needs a HR and a Triple for cycle
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
10:18 pm
This is awesome, but I fear that they will have trouble scoring runs against Maholm tomorrow.
Remley
July 3rd, 2012
10:19 pm
LARRY!!!!! Only one hit behind Mike Schmidt.
N Nine
July 3rd, 2012
10:19 pm
BREAKING NEWS!
Chipper Jones decides to pursue 500 HR and continue for 2013!
tiger297
July 3rd, 2012
10:19 pm
did you out of town folks get to see chippers comments before the game tonight?
phil
July 3rd, 2012
10:19 pm
Play on, Chipper Jones!!!
I love that man.
Ekim
July 3rd, 2012
10:19 pm
I’m acknowledging that I was dead wrong when I predicted no offensive response from the Braves after those three unearned runs. I love being wrong sometimes.
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
10:20 pm
5 walks in the inning.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
10:20 pm
Let’s go Dan!!!
Gotta say, the top of the order really picking it up. Who cares if BMac and Uggla struggle right now? They’ll come around.
And more hard contact from Dan, but foul
FEAR
July 3rd, 2012
10:20 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan
Can’t Chipper play 1 more season? Please? Lets not get carried away here……………..
Jerry
July 3rd, 2012
10:20 pm
The first time that Uggla comes to the plate in the all star game, everyone is gonna think it’s a typo when they see his batting average.
tiger297
July 3rd, 2012
10:21 pm
need to have a game like this after those remarks..
Ekim
July 3rd, 2012
10:21 pm
I hope Uggla doesn’t end two innings in a row.
Jerry
July 3rd, 2012
10:21 pm
Throw a slider and he’ll strike out.
brian
July 3rd, 2012
10:21 pm
Any question that chipper is a first ballot hall of famer?
Jake W.
July 3rd, 2012
10:22 pm
need to have a game like this after those remarks..
Missed the start of the game, what did he say?
Carroll Rogers
July 3rd, 2012
10:22 pm
Chipper has four hits for the first time since 6/7/2009 against Milwaukee, moves him into 7th place 4 all-time hits among switch-hitters
BFChris27
July 3rd, 2012
10:23 pm
Uggla bout to do something here.
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
10:23 pm
when he is healthy he is still the best hitter on the team
brian
July 3rd, 2012
10:23 pm
3rd all time switch hitter in HR. 7th is hits. Will be the leading RBI 3b in history passing Eddie Matthews, mike Schmidt, and george Brett…….MVP. 8 time all star.
Ekim
July 3rd, 2012
10:23 pm
He’s fouled off a few good pitches. Encouraging.
DZ
July 3rd, 2012
10:24 pm
Chipper’s getting those stats up now that he is an All-Star.
cabravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
10:24 pm
when he is healthy he is still the best hitter on the team
When he is healthy he is still one of the best hitters in the league
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
10:24 pm
Offense isn’t the problem. Never was. Need a starter and a reliever.
brian
July 3rd, 2012
10:24 pm
Chipper for player-manager 2012
cabravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
10:24 pm
Good at bat for Uggla
BFChris27
July 3rd, 2012
10:24 pm
Worked a walk
Ekim
July 3rd, 2012
10:24 pm
Nice walk. Could have been a strike-out.
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
10:24 pm
oh well they are safe, McCant is up……
Jake W.
July 3rd, 2012
10:25 pm
Can the Cubs be the slump busters for our struggling hitters? Sure would be nice.
BFChris27
July 3rd, 2012
10:25 pm
Efrim
And bench too.
tiger297
July 3rd, 2012
10:25 pm
cab – not sure he has enough power for us to still say that…and I love the guy. I might say he is the smartest hitter in the league though
Jerry
July 3rd, 2012
10:25 pm
How come the Cubs coaches wear smocks? They look like friggin artists.
ncbravesfan90
July 3rd, 2012
10:26 pm
Former Brave Drew Sutton hits a walk off homerun for Pittsburgh. He finished the night 3-5 and is batting .407 with Pittsburgh thus far.
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
10:26 pm
The inning is still going on?
Has Heyward walked yet?
cabravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
10:26 pm
tiger-
“good hitter” does not just mean “hits home runs.” He is a good pure hitter, and like you said, one of the smartest hitters in the league
phil
July 3rd, 2012
10:27 pm
It’s too bad the wheels are shot on Chipper.
The guy could go 2 more years otherwise…. Sigh.
brian
July 3rd, 2012
10:27 pm
And you are a real winner Justin. An intellectual marvel with that comment
TNScott
July 3rd, 2012
10:27 pm
DOB- Are the Cubs relievers getting paid by the pitch this inning?
Rick
July 3rd, 2012
10:27 pm
Heyward already took a walk around the bases.
tiger297
July 3rd, 2012
10:28 pm
man lots of miles of foul balls here
BFChris27
July 3rd, 2012
10:28 pm
28 minute inning.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
July 3rd, 2012
10:28 pm
Poo…
FEAR
July 3rd, 2012
10:29 pm
man, what is wrong with mac?!
tiger297
July 3rd, 2012
10:29 pm
im going to have to go to bed b4 this game ends…long walk tomorrow
Jake W.
July 3rd, 2012
10:30 pm
Only thing holding Chipper back is his body and health, a shame but it ends for them all one day. At least he’s going out as a productive player instead of a washed up one.
phil
July 3rd, 2012
10:30 pm
Chipper should retire tonight….
He’s clearly done.
TNScott
July 3rd, 2012
10:31 pm
Tiger- The Cubs pitching coach felt the same about the last inning.
Ekim
July 3rd, 2012
10:31 pm
It’d be cool for Chipper to go 5-5.
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
10:31 pm
That inning was pretty fun. The game may be safe now.
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
10:31 pm
yeah he is having a better final year than a lot of HOFers had at an earlier age
Ekim
July 3rd, 2012
10:32 pm
Four runs, one hit, no errors, three left. Wow.
FEAR
July 3rd, 2012
10:33 pm
TNScott – HAHA
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
10:33 pm
Chipper hitting .309/.386/.481…..
Still can rake.
brian
July 3rd, 2012
10:34 pm
Chipper was looking washed up not many games ago. Love to see him get rejuvenated.
phil
July 3rd, 2012
10:35 pm
Chipper might as well win the batting title since he refuses to hit 500 homers or get 3,000 hits…
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
10:35 pm
Nice quick and easy inning for Medlen after the Braves were out there for 28 minutes,
keylargo
July 3rd, 2012
10:36 pm
http://www.mlb.com/vote
All you have to do is click the above link and click on Bourn. DO IT!!
brian
July 3rd, 2012
10:36 pm
By washed up I am talking more in energy terms. He is on fire tonight and either his talk or his all star nod seems to have given chipper new life
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
July 3rd, 2012
10:36 pm
Kinda wish BMac didn’t have to make that last out with the bases loaded, but since we’re winning big, I guess it’s not so bad…
brian
July 3rd, 2012
10:36 pm
Vote at commercial breaks
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
10:37 pm
By the way, for the folks who think Freeman never walks – his walk rate is not really that far from Jason’s – at all, really.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
July 3rd, 2012
10:37 pm
Since the game is kinda out of hand now, maybe Fredi could put Ross in, just to give BMac some extra time…
Bobby used to do that sometimes…
Jake W.
July 3rd, 2012
10:38 pm
Chipper was looking washed up not many games ago. Love to see him get rejuvenated
Wasn’t looking washed up to me, just for the first time in forever he didn’t come off the DL swinging a hot bat. He’s spoiled us with his just back from the DL never missed a beat production that he usually gives us.
Duke
July 3rd, 2012
10:38 pm
I hate to keep piling this on, but man did I call this game by Chipper…
brian
July 3rd, 2012
10:38 pm
I am rooting hard for BMac but something seems to be missing right now
Bama Brave
July 3rd, 2012
10:39 pm
I think there is something Wrong With Bmac.
tiger297
July 3rd, 2012
10:39 pm
they scared of kris?
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
10:39 pm
I’d give BMac about a week, and let Ross start….
phil
July 3rd, 2012
10:39 pm
That would make sense, mcfann….
FG is asleep at the wheel.
brian
July 3rd, 2012
10:39 pm
Nice swing by medlen
Jerry
July 3rd, 2012
10:39 pm
Medlen looks good taking his cuts at the plate.
brian
July 3rd, 2012
10:40 pm
And as I hit enter Medlen K’s
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
10:41 pm
I think there is something Wrong With Bmac.
Slow bat? Missing more FBs
phil
July 3rd, 2012
10:41 pm
Mac’s timing is totally off….
More to it, i’m sure, but that last AB, he was all over.
Abandon
July 3rd, 2012
10:41 pm
Brian McCann needs all the ABs he can get to try to figure things out. He’s always gonna have his days off to rest.
usnavyvolfaninva
July 3rd, 2012
10:41 pm
Frankie Wren,
What’s a private sector?
brian
July 3rd, 2012
10:42 pm
Agree mcfann – no reason to wear BMac out. I would take him out and send him to the cage with one of the hitting coaches
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
10:42 pm
yes, his timing sure sukks. I’m not convinced he’s seeing the ball real well…. but it could be that he never really recovered from that oblique injury…
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
10:42 pm
I think it is a lot about timing, just like it was with Jason last year. hands and body out of sync
keylargo
July 3rd, 2012
10:43 pm
3 scoreless innings from Medlen should set off the “he’s a starter” crowd for a few days.
N Nine
July 3rd, 2012
10:44 pm
MEDS is about to go on a huge tear. Wow, that guy is amazing!
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
10:44 pm
I’ll say it again, Medlen looking much better than JJ did…
Bravefaninok
July 3rd, 2012
10:45 pm
Medlen is gonna get the 3 inning save tonight…..nice.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
10:45 pm
though I don’t think he should start
Trey
July 3rd, 2012
10:45 pm
Man, I wish Medlen was a starter.
brian
July 3rd, 2012
10:45 pm
Shocking that it was lockhart
cabravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
10:47 pm
Have a night Chipper Jones!
brian
July 3rd, 2012
10:47 pm
And a cherry on top by chipper
Mixxo
July 3rd, 2012
10:47 pm
My Goodness Chippah!
Sopheee
July 3rd, 2012
10:47 pm
Holy fudge, Chipper is feelin’ it tonight.
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
10:47 pm
Chipper having a career type game here tonight
BFChris27
July 3rd, 2012
10:47 pm
Chippah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jerry
July 3rd, 2012
10:47 pm
That was a Brooks Robinson special right there. Holy shyt!
Trey
July 3rd, 2012
10:47 pm
Chipper is a beast.
Mixxo
July 3rd, 2012
10:48 pm
Never would’ve guessed Lockhart.
Brava
July 3rd, 2012
10:48 pm
Wow, just wow, Chipper.
cabravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
10:48 pm
Tonight is a night when you remember why Chipper Jones is a 1st ballot Hall of Famer and one of the all time greats
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
10:48 pm
we gots to name this boy to the all star team every day. wonder if Tony will cooperate?
brian
July 3rd, 2012
10:49 pm
Keeping Medlen in the game is more than simply letting him get a save. They are keeping him stretched out for us or as trade bait.
MDBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
10:49 pm
All you Chipper haters, wait until he is NOT in the lineup next year. Then you will appreciate how good (dare I say, Great) this guy is. Four hits and an ESPN-worthy pick at 3rd. Have a night Chipper!! And congrats on the All-Star nod – go and continue to make us Braves’ fans proud!
Ekim
July 3rd, 2012
10:49 pm
That was almost just like the play against Houston where he tore up his knee.
TNScott
July 3rd, 2012
10:49 pm
DOB-Can you announce before every game for the rest of this season that Chipper has made the All-Star Game?
brian
July 3rd, 2012
10:50 pm
Is that you mcfann??
Mixxo
July 3rd, 2012
10:50 pm
cabravesfan -
You’re not kiddin’!
Sopheee
July 3rd, 2012
10:50 pm
Gonna miss him next year.
Jay DUbu
July 3rd, 2012
10:50 pm
Is Medlen going to pitch the final 4 innings?
MDBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
10:50 pm
Cabravesfan (10:48) – say that one more time!!
Kat
July 3rd, 2012
10:51 pm
Nice grin by Chipper at the end, he’s having fun!
Mark
July 3rd, 2012
10:51 pm
Good swing on that one to by JHey
Sopheee
July 3rd, 2012
10:51 pm
Get up people. Give the man a standing O.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
July 3rd, 2012
10:52 pm
brian no reason to wear BMac out. I would take him out
Yeah. I mean, unless we have a big eighth, he’s not gonna get to bat again…
But, it’s kind of a moot point, now, I guess…
brian
July 3rd, 2012
10:52 pm
Good point Jake W. I will freely admit I have been spoiled by chipper all these years and yes I do think prior to 40 he could fall out of a hospital bed and hit .300
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
10:52 pm
Gonna miss him next year.
Me too…. we need another hitter like him .
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
10:52 pm
Gawd, 5- 5!!!!
cabravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
10:52 pm
CHIPPPPPPPPEEEEEERRRRRRR
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
10:52 pm
I am gonna cry all next season
BFChris27
July 3rd, 2012
10:52 pm
5 Hit Game
Mark
July 3rd, 2012
10:52 pm
Chipper is the man. Run for him
brian
July 3rd, 2012
10:52 pm
Amazing. Give chipper his standing O. Has one in NC in my house
tiger297
July 3rd, 2012
10:52 pm
even minor was smiling
Ekim
July 3rd, 2012
10:52 pm
WONDERFUL!
keylargo
July 3rd, 2012
10:52 pm
Medlen is gonna get the 3 inning save tonight…..nice.
I think he has to finish the game to get the save. I think he gets a hold.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
July 3rd, 2012
10:52 pm
FIVE HITS!! Oh, I look away for a SECOND!!
WAYTAGO, Chipper!!
Sopheee
July 3rd, 2012
10:53 pm
Haha, Meds cracks me up.
Jerry
July 3rd, 2012
10:53 pm
Just wow! Glad I could witness this night.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
10:53 pm
can’t we have a DH next year? We can still use this dude!
Mixxo
July 3rd, 2012
10:53 pm
Man oh man!
cabravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
10:53 pm
MDBravesFan- with pleasure
Tonight is a night when you remember why Chipper Jones is a 1st ballot Hall of Famer and one of the all time greats
N Nine
July 3rd, 2012
10:53 pm
Chipper!!! WOWO
TNScott
July 3rd, 2012
10:53 pm
Sammy Hagar “Can’t Drive 55″ but Hoss can!!!
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
10:53 pm
Special night. Awesome to see. Go Chipper. 5 for 5!!!!
Remley
July 3rd, 2012
10:53 pm
Me too nolie
Brava
July 3rd, 2012
10:53 pm
What a game by Chipper tonight! Amazing.
Ekim
July 3rd, 2012
10:54 pm
Enter your comments here
BFChris27
July 3rd, 2012
10:54 pm
Who pinch running?
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
10:54 pm
Gonna cry next year when I see BMac still putting up 0-5s…. (sarcasm)
Ekim
July 3rd, 2012
10:54 pm
Didn’t mean to do that. Sorry.
BFChris27
July 3rd, 2012
10:54 pm
Ah Francisco.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
July 3rd, 2012
10:54 pm
BMac wants some of this…
ChattTownBrian
July 3rd, 2012
10:55 pm
I think Chipper’s timing is back …
Remley
July 3rd, 2012
10:55 pm
Freddie needs a hit
archie
July 3rd, 2012
10:55 pm
What a night! Chipper has 5 hits tonight, tying Uggla’s output for the season.
Capt.Mudd
July 3rd, 2012
10:55 pm
Big league feat….fitting sendoff to the All-Star game….as Braves fans in attendance show their respect and support: great memory for both fans and Mr. Chipper “LarryL Jones.
Bama Brave
July 3rd, 2012
10:55 pm
that just puts goose bumps all over you Way to Be A Brave CHIPPER! Your Awesome….
Ekim
July 3rd, 2012
10:55 pm
Who’s on first?
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
July 3rd, 2012
10:55 pm
Medlen’s a maniac, BTW…
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
10:55 pm
BFChris: Someone who ain’t nearly as good as Chipper…. slower too
Jay DUbu
July 3rd, 2012
10:55 pm
DOB what other records has Chipper set, broken, or tied with his 5 for 5 tonight?
Heyward has to relax and settle into the 3 hole. Needs to have good, quality ABs everytime up.
Remley
July 3rd, 2012
10:56 pm
Meds for 3 innings? Or time for “GAs Can”
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
July 3rd, 2012
10:56 pm
AND WE HAVE 10 RUNS WITH 10 HITS!! How cool is that?…
Andrelton Simmons
July 3rd, 2012
10:56 pm
Since Heyward has moved up in the batting order he is 8-34 for a .235 average and a .278 OBP. Pretty pathetic for a 3 hole hitter. Yea the solo HR was nice even if it was meaningless but he came up empty with the bases loaded. He has 2 BB’s vs 7 K’s since he was moved up as well. Bottom line is he’s not getting it done at the top of the order. Obviously, the once in a while XBH is nice, but a .235 average and a .278 OBP is absolutely pathetic for your 3 hole hitter and that simply will not cut it. If he doesn’t start to get on base at a much higher rate or put the ball in play at a much higher rate he needs to be sent back down to the 6th or 7th hole.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
10:57 pm
Juan getting his weekly inning of work I see…
tiger297
July 3rd, 2012
10:57 pm
am I the only one that was yelling for chipper not to jump on that last throw to 1st?
MDBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
10:57 pm
Ok, I gotta get down to the ATL in Sept to send him off. And I’m gonna cry then. I doubt we see the likes of him esp. in Braves uni for a long, long time. I’m soaking it all in this year.
Remley
July 3rd, 2012
10:58 pm
That’s being efficent with your hits
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
10:58 pm
NOOO!!! I wanted Meds to finish it out…
brian
July 3rd, 2012
10:58 pm
Fredi’s best move as a brave…….. Giving chipper his curtain call there. Classy move and great job by the turner field crowd to get the curtain call. Most deserved
FEAR
July 3rd, 2012
10:58 pm
5-5? really? for that old geezer? haha
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
10:58 pm
good inning to use Venters. maybe we can hold the lead
MDBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
10:58 pm
BTW what is Chipper’s avg now?!
BFChris27
July 3rd, 2012
10:58 pm
This is a good way to get Venters back on track.
Worst case scenario, Kimbrel gets another save
brian
July 3rd, 2012
10:58 pm
Kills my theory on meds.
brian
July 3rd, 2012
10:59 pm
Maybe Justin was right a few pages ago
Mark
July 3rd, 2012
11:00 pm
Bats definately better tonight. Every position player hits safely tonight except Freeman and Uggla.
ChattTownBrian
July 3rd, 2012
11:00 pm
i would bet right now we don’t see another Chipper for the Braves in our lifetime after he’s gone. Murphy was saying how rare it is to see somebody just never go through any consistant stretch of a slump. If not for injuries can you imagine what his numbers would be?
keylargo
July 3rd, 2012
11:00 pm
Chipper also set the record for a 10 hit streak with a stolen base after he was 40 years old. Rabbit Maranaville had 10 game hitting streak but no SB. Rabbit’s can’t run with Chipper.
Jay DUbu
July 3rd, 2012
11:00 pm
Why not let Medlen close the game out?
With the amount of pitches he’s already thrown, he’s unavailable for the next game or so anyway.
At least he could have gotten a save if Fredi would let him close it out.
tiger297
July 3rd, 2012
11:00 pm
brian…I don’t think it does
Trey
July 3rd, 2012
11:00 pm
On my way to Atlanta, I was listening to the game on the radio, the announcers compared Jones to a Switch hitting Cal Ripken, if he remained at SS, during his career.
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
11:01 pm
Kris Medlen sure did pitch well.
Rick
July 3rd, 2012
11:01 pm
And both Freeman and Uggla have hit the ball hard multiple times tonight with nothing to show for it.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
11:01 pm
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
8:54 pm
I doubt the Braves score anymore runs.
Ha!
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
11:02 pm
That Campana hit spoiled the bullpen’s perfect night and added to Venters dismal BABIP.
ChattTownBrian
July 3rd, 2012
11:02 pm
I have never seen a SS throw like Simmons. Looks almost like a shot put throw.
brian
July 3rd, 2012
11:02 pm
Even with this huge outburst by the braves, Atlanta only has 5 hits by people not named chipper jones
Ekim
July 3rd, 2012
11:02 pm
And right after Tomahawk Mafia said that, I agreed with him. (Hanging head in shame.)
tiger297
July 3rd, 2012
11:03 pm
trey – did he mean that as a compliment or a slight? b/c chipper dominates ripken offensively
Tomahawk Mafia
July 3rd, 2012
11:03 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan
You know that during the 3rd inning all the Braves fans here were really frustrated. Based on the way they have looked of late, that was a decent assessment. I am glad I was wrong though.
Bama Brave
July 3rd, 2012
11:03 pm
Ball GAME
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
11:03 pm
Yeah C’Mon! We did it
keylargo
July 3rd, 2012
11:04 pm
And I hope every single one of you idiots feels like an idiot after whining and crying when we were down 3 – 1.
Brava
July 3rd, 2012
11:04 pm
Good work, Jonny. Feels good to type that.
brian
July 3rd, 2012
11:04 pm
Don’t care about BABIP with venters this inning. No runs and no serious trouble this inning
Sopheee
July 3rd, 2012
11:04 pm
One of them DVR worthy games. I’ll be watching this one and reminiscing next season.
cabravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
11:04 pm
You know that during the 3rd inning all the Braves fans here were really frustrated.
Not all of them. I rarely get frustrated in the 3rd inning of a game
Andrelton Simmons
July 3rd, 2012
11:05 pm
Bourn (1 hitter), Prado (2 hitter), Chipper (4) hitter, Freeman (5) hitter, and B-Mac (7) hitter all got on base multiple times vs the Cubs tonight. The only hitters in the top 7 of the lineup that didn’t get on base multiple times happened to be Jason Heyward and Dan Uggla. Uggla has been terrible for a while now and Heyward hasn’t been good ever since he was moved up in the order (.235 average) he’s also 5 for his last 27 (.185 avg) which is laughable over his last 6 games with 7 K’s as well.
Sorry, but just because a pitcher made a mistake and gave him the ball right where he loves it down and out doesn’t mean he’s been doing well since h