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Shaun
July 3rd, 2012
1:06 pm
Is he worth the price in prospects and a $15-20 million per year long term salary on a team where $90 mil in salary seems optimistic? Hell, no.
Well, obviously none of us know what Milwaukee wants in terms of prospects. But I would certainly be okay with what I mentioned: one of the top 3-4 and another prospect, maybe even one more lesser prospect far down the list.
As far as $15M-$20M, I think that’s very reasonable over the next 4-5 years given his performance over the last few seasons and all the other information we know about Grienke.
I just pointed out that in free agent dollars Grienke has been worth $15.9M this season (in just 3 months), $17.7M last season, $20.4M in 2010, $42M in 2009, $22.3M in 2008.
phil
July 3rd, 2012
1:07 pm
FG would get stuck in the door. Bad idea.
DS1
July 3rd, 2012
1:07 pm
Greinke is only marginally better than Hanson.
I could be all wrong on this pitching stuff, but it just scares the heck out of me to tie that much money up in young pitchers.
I understood the reasoning behind Derek Lowe when that deal was made. We had nothing proven and needed someone with a great injury history who could be an anchor.
But I don’t know much about Greinke’s mechanics. Will his elbow or shoulder blow out in the next year or two? Folks were thinking Ben Sheets was the up and comer a few years back; and see where he is now.
Tomahawkin
July 3rd, 2012
1:08 pm
richbrave
July 3rd, 2012
11:41 am
“…….Word on the street (as T’Hawkin loves to say) is the actress who played Aunt Bea was a real “B” to work with and hated that role and show…….”
hmmmmm
Bat Masterson
July 3rd, 2012
1:08 pm
DS1, I have no problem with giving him 20 over 5, the money has to go somewhere.
Sure, what the hell.
Bourn will be gone next year, anyway. Then cut Heap loose the next. Then Heyward ……….
brian
July 3rd, 2012
1:08 pm
back to the Venters and Bourjos – I would try to do Venters plus a prospect for Bourjos and Richards.
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Then I would try to move Minor to the Royals for Crow and a good prospect
we keep Delgado, Teheran, and Vizcaino. Get another OF for when Chipper is out. Upgrade our bullpen. Still have the flexibility to try and trade for Greinke, etc
Lew
July 3rd, 2012
1:10 pm
How can we not afford it? We need more than a pitcher. . We will need a center fielder, a left fielder or a third baseman (if they decide to leave Martin in LF, which I doubt). They need to totally revamp their bench, lock up Prado, take care of the arb raises to Heyward, Hanson and a couple of others and sore up their pen since EOF could likely be gone and Venters is iffy right now. They must also decide if they are going to extend Heyward, Freeman, McCann, Hudson (or they’ll need another top of rotation pitcher) and maybe Kimbrel within a year or so.
DS1
July 3rd, 2012
1:10 pm
Shaun
You’re looking at what he’s worth across the spectrum. Are you discounting a mid market city and payroll?
Would he really be worth over 20% of our teams payroll. 1/5th of our pay? Really?
Maybe he would be, but giving that much money to a pitcher scares the hell out of me.
Bat Masterson
July 3rd, 2012
1:10 pm
I just pointed out that in free agent dollars Grienke has been worth $15.9M this season (in just 3 months), $17.7M last season, $20.4M in 2010, $42M in 2009, $22.3M in 2008.
Is that like monopoly money? Cause I don’t think they let the Braves use any
Shaun
July 3rd, 2012
1:10 pm
DS1, Grienke is 28, not exactly a young pitcher. And he’s been pretty durable. Anything can happen, of course, and all pitcher come with some risks but I would consider him one of the less risky pitchers in the majors.
I agree that Greinke is only marginally better than Hanson, at least stuff-wise. But I think Hanson is slightly underrated, in general, especially amongst Braves fans.
keylargo
July 3rd, 2012
1:12 pm
2 months of Beltran netted 1 top prospect. 2 months of Greinke should net a top prospect value… for the Braves I’d think this would be a Polished plus an additional minor leaguer.
I have to mention here that one player plays every day and the other plays every fourth day.
DS1
July 3rd, 2012
1:13 pm
Greinke would cost way too much in prospects and $ to sign him.
So FW will probably do it (most of my guesses are wrong anyway)
Gotta run
Bo Graves.
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
1:15 pm
Chipper is 4th in OPS for NL third basemen, so its not like he isn’t near the top, but stats as of a given date is only one way to look at voting, and a rather limited way IMO if that is your only crtteria
Arkansas Transplant
July 3rd, 2012
1:16 pm
Bat, that’s awefully dramatic.
phil
July 3rd, 2012
1:17 pm
Cut FF, Simmons and Prado loose too so we can keep hanging on tight to these wonderful pitchers that are turning out to be anything but….
And fire the beer venders and cooks at McCann’s Burgers at the Ted!!
Arkansas Transplant
July 3rd, 2012
1:18 pm
We will need a center fielder, a left fielder or a third baseman
That’s why I’d have them include Davis in the trade.
ncscoots
July 3rd, 2012
1:19 pm
Pansy.
Not the middle three letters I would have chosen.
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
1:19 pm
dramatic but kinda true if they tie up more than 20% of the payroll in one guy…with a 3.75 career ERA yet
Lemke's Knuckler
July 3rd, 2012
1:19 pm
I wouldn’t put Greinke in that top tier of aces with the likes of Cain, Verlander, Halladay, Hernandez and Weaver. But he’s just barely below those guys, better and more consistent than any starter the Braves currently have. He’s got lock down stuff, there’s no doubt about that. I’d trade any package not including Teheran for him in a heartbeat.
Shaun
July 3rd, 2012
1:20 pm
DS1, I think he’s worth it, even to the Braves, considering they won’t have a lot of payroll tied in to huge contracts over the next couple of seasons, at least.
Plus, as the saying goes, flags fly forever. So even if a would-be contract becomes an issue in 3-4 years, at least they hopefully gave themselves a really good chance to win something.
I think this is an underrated part of baseball trades and signings, etc. It’s easy to criticize and find fault with any move. Certainly I don’t want the Braves to take a ton of outrageous risks every year. But in my view teams need to take some calculated risks here and there when they have an opportunity to go for something.
ncscoots
July 3rd, 2012
1:20 pm
And fire the beer venders and cooks at McCann’s Burgers at the Ted!!
The first really sensible team improvement suggestion made all day, LOL.
Arkansas Transplant
July 3rd, 2012
1:20 pm
We could have an outfield of Davis lf, Cunningham/Pagan cf and Heyward rf next year with the infield of:
Prado 3rd
Simmons SS
Uggla 2nd
Freeman 1st
McCann C
I don’t see much need for anything above and beyond that.
George
July 3rd, 2012
1:21 pm
Repost because this was near the bottom of the last page and not many read bottom posts.
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George
July 3rd, 2012
1:04 pm
Looking at this team position by position it is not nearly as bad as they have been playing. They have seemed to have fixed the weak SS position. Pitching that at the start of the season looked very strong now as far as starters go, has become our greatest weakness, that is due to the fact that FREDI does not know how to MGR a pitching staff. Our MGR and hitting coaches doe not seem to have a clue on how to get BRIAN and DAN out of thier slumps. As Tomahawkin said yesterday FRANK WREN deserves a A- for his work considering what money he has to work with. FREDI on day to day handleing of team deserves a big fat F, and be sent packing now. Let EDDIE PEREZ MGR the team the rest of season, see how he does, or bring up our AAA MGR, but do something NOW. The weak hearts on this blog who love FREDI and say “don’t make a move now that will hurt next season” are crazy. Wait till next year is no good when the track record shows no improvement from year to year.
Arkansas Transplant
July 3rd, 2012
1:22 pm
And with a rotation of Greinke, Hanson, Hudson, JJ (possibly) and Delgado/Teheran/Medlen next season you’d have a very solid staff. Not to mention Beachy might return late next season.
ncscoots
July 3rd, 2012
1:23 pm
We could have an outfield of Davis lf, Cunningham/Pagan cf and Heyward rf next year…I don’t see much need for anything above and beyond that.
Wow.
Bat Masterson
July 3rd, 2012
1:23 pm
Arkansas Transplant _
Maybe, but I’m not so sure.
Grienke $20mm… Uggla, Heap, Hudson, Hanson, Heyward, Simmons, Freeman….. around another $51/52mm
17 more players $20mm
Granted that’s off the top of my head, but still……..
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
1:24 pm
Greinke pitched 6 innings and gave up 5 runs last night against the worst team in the NL East. any of our current guys could have done that
Arkansas Transplant
July 3rd, 2012
1:25 pm
ncscoots, nice spin.
Bat Masterson
July 3rd, 2012
1:26 pm
Whoops I left Prado off. He’s included in the $52mm
16 players left
CB
July 3rd, 2012
1:27 pm
Anybody notice .Don disappeared on the blog about the time George appeared? Just saying
ncscoots
July 3rd, 2012
1:29 pm
AT, just trying to express my skepticism for your OF lineup. I didn’t think the omission of the IF changed the tone of the post. If so, then I apologize.
But that OF, brother….that is not the OF of a contender, even on other planets.
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
1:29 pm
as rare as it is now days, anybody who does not want to see their retiring HOFer of 20 years worth of thrills get into his last all star game, is not somebody I would want to go to a ballgame with. heartless bastid……
George
July 3rd, 2012
1:31 pm
Don disliked BOBBY,I dislike FREDI. At least BOBBY showed some life and energy, and had a very good track record.
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
1:31 pm
no it is not scoots, nowhere in my universe anyway
Bat Masterson
July 3rd, 2012
1:32 pm
Plus, as the saying goes, flags fly forever. So even if a would-be contract becomes an issue in 3-4 years, at least they hopefully gave themselves a really good chance to win something. _ Shaun
I’m not saying they don’t do it because I have do idea, but without a payroll increase it’s not an issue in 3 or 4 years. It’s next year and on………….
ncscoots
July 3rd, 2012
1:33 pm
You guys want a fired-up manager, a guy who likes stolen bases and small ball and like that, and so forth?
Ozzie’s got a job. For the moment.
Mitchie-sand
July 3rd, 2012
1:33 pm
I wish there was a “like” button comparable to the one on facebook. Maybe even a Thumbs up / Thumbs down thingy.
George
July 3rd, 2012
1:33 pm
Please VOTE, VOTE, VOTE for CHIPPER.
Lemke's Knuckler
July 3rd, 2012
1:34 pm
Shaun…”But in my view teams need to take some calculated risks here and there when they have an opportunity to go for something.”
I agree 100%. This lineup is deep and if they are all hitting well come playoff time, there won’t be a team that can match up with them. But the Braves have zero shot in the postseason without at least one guy taking the mound that can shut down the opposing team. Greinke can do that. Hudson can do it sometimes. Hanson is pitching as well as anyone could throwing 90 mph, but he’s not overpowering hitters anymore. The rest of the boys…who the hell knows.
If they want to win the World Series, they need to go get Greinke. Otherwise, they better hope Delgado and Minor figure things out and turn into Smoltz and Avery circa 1991.
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
1:34 pm
Flags fly forever? who won the WS in 1989? 1974? 1943?
CrαZy
July 3rd, 2012
1:35 pm
Yeah Yeah Chipper might not deserve to be an AS this year, but neither did Cal Ripken in 2001 and he was a freaking starter!! (.214 batting avg and 4 HRs) This vote is just to get Chipper in as a reserve!! He deserves it!!
Arkansas Transplant
July 3rd, 2012
1:36 pm
ncscoots, we had one of the worse production OF in all of baseball last year and fell just 1 game shy of the playoffs and had the new expansion rule been in affect we would have made it. Don’t know how you can say it would be that bad, since we don’t know how the production of Davis or Cunningham would be or what Heyward would bring.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
1:37 pm
Nolie: the Athletics won in ‘89, don’t know about the others (and I didn’t google it, but it wasn’t the Braves)
ChattTownBrian
July 3rd, 2012
1:37 pm
Yeah ya know … opportunities. Opportunities with … what was it? … two or six guys stranded I believe? But yeah, we want to come out tomorrow and get back to winning. Again, uh, opportunities. What’s that? …
George
July 3rd, 2012
1:38 pm
CrαZy
July 3rd, 2012
1:35 pm
AGREED, Like nolie said yesterday baseball used to honor future HOFers on thier way out.
phil
July 3rd, 2012
1:40 pm
ncscoots
July 3rd, 2012
1:20 pm
And fire the beer venders and cooks at McCann’s Burgers at the Ted!!
The first really sensible team improvement suggestion made all day, LOL.
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Indeed. And with those thousands all added together, we can cover a couple of september call up salaries. Besides, the lard butts in the stands can go get their own beers. It just takes a little thought and voila! We can now afford anyone….
ChattTownBrian
July 3rd, 2012
1:41 pm
Wren is best to wait until very near the deadline to make any major deal. This offense, as we’ve all seen, can fall off a cliff in a hurry and not fully recover. No rhyme or reason. Could be best. I still think Greinke comes to ATL, but am fearing he may not be an answer to any postseason hopes. Cannot trust this offense. Very scary group … not in a good way.
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
1:43 pm
LaRusso just left Chipper off cause Bobby beat up on him so much in face to face games
George
July 3rd, 2012
1:43 pm
The BRAVES should have a CHIPPER DAY sometime before the end of season while he is still playing. Give him a car or truck or something. The fans would love a special day to say goodbye.
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
1:44 pm
I see Robert is STILL paying to insult Bobby on BBREF. How pathetic is that?
Just Saying
July 3rd, 2012
1:44 pm
It’s just the way it goes right now. – Fredi
How long are the Braves going to let this excuse making soft fat manager ruin the team? Hope he is out of here in 2013.
phil
July 3rd, 2012
1:44 pm
We’ve had zero, that’s none, zip, nada position players retire as Braves and go into the HOF.
NONE.
That’s enough for me to rally around the one we DO have. Let’s enjoy what little time he has left with us and try to appreciate the man.
There aren’t anymore of him in the pipeline. None. Zero. Nada.
Heyward and FF have a looooooong way to go to even begin the conversation.
ChattTownBrian
July 3rd, 2012
1:44 pm
who is truly consistant in our lineup? Prado. Simmons has been, but never trust such an inexperienced player. Adjustments on him are probably being discussed by a pitcher, coach and catcher somewhere as I type this.
Prado and … that is it, really.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
1:45 pm
George, I think the Braves will do that. Probably around that last series. Would be hard to see them not honor Chipper.
Just Saying
July 3rd, 2012
1:48 pm
2013?
1. Francona manager
2. Replace all present coaches
3. Resign Bourn
4. Let Mac go (on the decline with best years behind him)
5. Move Uggla and get LF power hitter that we have begged for since 2005
6. Say goodbye to Hinske and Diaz
7. Fire DOB and replace with nolie
ChattTownBrian
July 3rd, 2012
1:49 pm
The offense is better than last year as far as small ball, sac fly type stuff. Now even that is going south again. They can’t even make good, fundamental baseball last half a season. They CAN, but will they and will it stay that way all the way into there postseason? I have little faith, but I can hope.
Brave New World
July 3rd, 2012
1:49 pm
Lemke’s Knuckler July 3rd, 2012 1:19 pm
I wouldn’t put Greinke in that top tier of aces with the likes of Cain, Verlander, Halladay, Hernandez and Weaver.
Greinke’s a least as good as Livian Hernandez.
George
July 3rd, 2012
1:50 pm
Just a thought about the past season and a half, wondering if OMAR would have given us more than DAN?
monty
July 3rd, 2012
1:51 pm
If Bourn leaves we’ll need a CF AND a LF (if Prado goes to 3rd). Pitching needs: exercise Huddy’s option, Tommy (6 innings only Hanson), JJ? Sheets? Beachy in August? Garza? Greinke? Minor-Delgado-Teheran? Lot of uncertainty at this point. I said at the end of last season the biggest need we had was a good starter to solidify rotation. No time to be shy with the money.
phil
July 3rd, 2012
1:56 pm
We’re not going anywhere with Bourn and McCann….
Have we won a single playoff series with Mac? Nope.
Let em walk.
Threadkiller
July 3rd, 2012
1:56 pm
I say NO to Greinke…If we are infact letting clubs know that we’re willing to trade our young pitching, Frank can be alot more creative! I think he can be..2 or 3 of our prospects, could get us a SP and a bat..
Nattering Nabob
July 3rd, 2012
1:57 pm
DOB
Loved your response to Howard. People like that can be forgiven, however, since they obviously have no idea what it takes to cover a professional sports team.
The A Bomb
July 3rd, 2012
2:01 pm
You’d think if the Braves could muster up any emotion to play for a cause it would be for Andy Griffith.
Shaun
July 3rd, 2012
2:01 pm
who is truly consistant in our lineup?
Who is truly consistent in any lineup? Players have ups-and-downs, even to extreme degrees, over the course of maybe a few weeks or even a few months. Every player in baseball is inconsistent, except maybe guys like Bonds in the early 2000s or something.
Do any of you claiming that certain players are inconsistent have any sort of evidence that those players are any more inconsistent than any other players? My guess is that you don’t. You just think every player needs to go 3 for his every 10 in order to be deemed consistent, when no such player exists. No player will ever meet your standards for consistency.
David O'Brien
July 3rd, 2012
2:03 pm
Moylan’s 2nd Gulf Coast League rehab appearance: 1 IP, bloop single, 1 K, 13 pitches.
Mark
July 3rd, 2012
2:03 pm
George
I am one that thinks the Uggla trade has been a bust for the Braves. A few more HR maybe but also a lot more strikeouts. Infane is a better defender also.
Jeff R
July 3rd, 2012
2:04 pm
Well, obviously none of us know what Milwaukee wants in terms of prospects. But I would certainly be okay with what I mentioned: one of the top 3-4 and another prospect, maybe even one more lesser prospect far down the list.
As far as $15M-$20M, I think that’s very reasonable over the next 4-5 years given his performance over the last few seasons and all the other information we know about Grienke.
I think Shaun’s take is reasonable.
Whatever fans want, I think the Braves want Greinke. Greinke seems to want the Braves. I think this boils down to whether or not Milwaukee, the Braves, and Greinke can come to terms at this point.
cricket
July 3rd, 2012
2:06 pm
At least BOBBY showed some life and energy,
another to-be-ex-marlins-manager fitting this description could be available soon, too bad he’s quit twitter
TennesseePaul
July 3rd, 2012
2:07 pm
I agree with you on that. Time for some to be realistic.
hmmm…. probably should have put an emoticon with that post as I wasn’t being serious. And realistically speaking, the FO is going to make the decision as to whether Greinke is worth it and what he is worth.
I enjoy the conversation and speculation. It’s what this time of baseball is about. Some think a trade is worth anything it takes, others think only a handful and still some, apparently, think no trade is ever worth it and no player is ever worth signing.
Jeff R
July 3rd, 2012
2:08 pm
The Braves aren’t firing Fredi, the last I knew.
TennesseePaul
July 3rd, 2012
2:08 pm
Who is truly consistent in any lineup?
In the NL, the pitcher. He is consistent all season. Just not to the point most would want from the rest of the players.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
2:10 pm
Whatever fans want, I think the Braves want Greinke. Greinke seems to want the Braves. I think this boils down to whether or not Milwaukee, the Braves, and Greinke can come to terms at this point.
Co-sign!!!
Matt Young was DFA’d by the Tigers today, anyone want him back here? AAA depth, late season call-up?
Murph
July 3rd, 2012
2:12 pm
Who is truly consistent in any lineup?
Well, right now Uggla and McCann are both consistently bad… have been for a number of weeks.
Simmons for the month of June was consistently good. That’s why he was named NL Rookie fo’ da Month.
Freeman has been pretty consistently good when his eyes or hand haven’t been bothering him. Kimbral also has been consistently awesome despite his HR given up the other day.
The guy who sits next to me consistently smells of garlic.
cricket
July 3rd, 2012
2:14 pm
20mil for Greinke may be reasonable. questions is – is it reasonable for a team with 85-90mil payroll?
ncbravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
2:15 pm
“Greinke pitched 6 innings and gave up 5 runs last night against the worst team in the NL East. any of our current guys could have done that”
True, but here, Fredi would have run him out there for another inning
David O'Brien
July 3rd, 2012
2:16 pm
20mil for Greinke may be reasonable. questions is – is it reasonable for a team with 85-90mil payroll? — cricket
Exactly. Thank you.
RoyU
July 3rd, 2012
2:18 pm
The positive attitude displayed by asking “What can we do?” is appreciated by this Braves’ fan but the bottom line is that Braves’ ownership either simply cannot afford the answer or is too greedy to pay the price. With all due respect for the players, I basically see the same team on the field this year as ended last season and the result should be the same, except it won’t go to the last day. And, with all due respect to him personally, I do not think that Fredi is a manager that has that extra ability to make competitors (Braves) into “WINNERS”! And to make things worse, management will probably sacrifice more of the Braves future talent “only” to make 2012 more respectable! This may be nonsense to some but to me, it’s memories of the past too many years and it’s time to put things in reverse!!!
JoeFan
July 3rd, 2012
2:19 pm
The Braves need to figure out who will be playing LF and CF in 2013, strengthen the bench and bullpen before they commit serious dollars to someone like Grienke.
Woody Woodward
July 3rd, 2012
2:19 pm
What is the knock on garza? The guy doesnt walk a lot of batters, strikes out 8 per nine, era of 4 on a lousy team. 10 mil is a lot, but surely the cubbies would pick up part of the salary.
Don in TN
July 3rd, 2012
2:21 pm
Helen Crump (Anita Corsault) played Steve McQueen’s girlfriend in the original “The Blob”.
Don in TN
July 3rd, 2012
2:21 pm
Helen Crump (Anita Corsault) played Steve McQueen’s girlfriend in the original “The Blob”.
Threadkiller
July 3rd, 2012
2:22 pm
WW, exactly..We should approach the Cubs with a package that nets us Garza and an outfielder for our Prospects..It’s a win, win!
phil
July 3rd, 2012
2:24 pm
Can Helen Crump hit?
Mark
July 3rd, 2012
2:26 pm
Aunt Bee sure couldn’t
Bat Masterson
July 3rd, 2012
2:28 pm
Aunt Bee wasn’t much of a fisherman either.
cricket
July 3rd, 2012
2:29 pm
Aunt Bee being any amount of fisherman would be really weird..fisherwoman, on the other hand, would be ok
phil
July 3rd, 2012
2:30 pm
There is one undying truth about team sports….
Most think a trade, playing the backup, firing the coach/manager, canning the GM, getting new ownership are all some sort of magic elixir that will suddenly propel a team to titles and glory.
This is seldom the case.
Everyone is jacked up about getting rid of Joe Johnson. In the end, will it result in a title for a team that hasn’t even made the conference finals in 42 years? Very unlikely.
If we trade for Grienke, fire FG, bring back Constanza, can Wren, sweep the stadium walkways, trade for joey votto and a player to be named later, it’s not ultimately going to matter.
Why the endless talk about it? I guess there’s nothing else to talk about that’s really interesting, so why did I even ask.
Mark
July 3rd, 2012
2:31 pm
“What’ll she do”?
“You need me”!
Classic
tiger297
July 3rd, 2012
2:31 pm
waves still crashing on those rocks bat???
phil
July 3rd, 2012
2:31 pm
Aunt B was a man, I think….she had to hide it in those cruel days.
phil
July 3rd, 2012
2:33 pm
Hope you all have a good 4th! Not sure how often I’ll be “around” until late Friday.
How bout a few wins these next few days?
keylargo
July 3rd, 2012
2:34 pm
The BRAVES should have a CHIPPER DAY sometime before the end of season while he is still playing. Give him a car or truck or something.
I know I’d be proud to know I kicked in a C note for Chippers new 4 x 4 Hummer. Poor guy only made $156,000.000 from the Braves.
ncbravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
2:34 pm
“Why the endless talk about it? I guess there’s nothing else to talk about that’s really interesting, so why did I even ask.”
We could talk about the play on the field, but it’s been so horrible of late that no one really has a desire to dwell on that.
tiger297
July 3rd, 2012
2:35 pm
chippers wife gave him a new truck for his birthday
tiger297
July 3rd, 2012
2:35 pm
hmmm if they do get divored wonder if she gets 1/2 of it back?
NickGranite
July 3rd, 2012
2:36 pm
The strikeouts in the middle of the order when Bourn and Prado were dancing all over the base paths was particularly brutal. Hopefully we can take care of a bit of that problem by moving Uggla and McCann down in the order. We need contact with RISP and Uggla has been a whiff monster all season.
Bat Masterson
July 3rd, 2012
2:36 pm
That’s a bit too PC for me today, cricket.
Mark
July 3rd, 2012
2:37 pm
Andy Trivia
Start with an easy one.
Anyone know what the guy who walked in the trees and blew smoke out of his ears name was?
Shaun
July 3rd, 2012
2:38 pm
Based on this, I think the Braves could make Greinke at $15M-$20M a season for the next couple of seasons work: http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/ATL/2012-roster.shtml
It might get rough by 2015 but hopefully moves could be made by then.
Jeff R
July 3rd, 2012
2:38 pm
Has anyone confirmed that $20 million per is Greinke’s asking price?