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Woody Woodward
July 3rd, 2012
12:23 am
Local news here in Honolulu reporting that victorino might land with yanks.
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
12:23 am
they have three 22 year olds starting and 4 SP 25 or under. add that to normal slumps and Chippers in again-out again and how could they not be erratic?
Woody Woodward
July 3rd, 2012
12:24 am
Dodgers and reds also looking at Shane.
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
12:25 am
I like Shane, would be an ok option if Bourn leaves as long as it is not too long a contract
Woody Woodward
July 3rd, 2012
12:26 am
Nolie–is the talk serious about Minor and Delgado? IYHO, who do you keep of those two?
Woody Woodward
July 3rd, 2012
12:27 am
We’re hearing he wants five years. I think that’s too long. I like his style of play and his heart, but He has some miles on him.
Waffle House or Bust
July 3rd, 2012
12:29 am
nolie – Poor me going to a game with girls like this. Ha! Told you sucka.
http://instagram.com/p/MmOgSJg1OO/
Woody Woodward
July 3rd, 2012
12:31 am
Bet the one on the left is missing a tooth. She work at waffle house?
Waffle House or Bust
July 3rd, 2012
12:31 am
Trade for this person. Sign this person. Blah Blah Blah, Will always be more of the same until Bobby Ball is killed off in Atlanta. That will mean get rid of Fredi and all of Bobby’s leftovers on the coaching staff. Not gonna happen but until it does… have fun Braves Country.
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
12:31 am
them broads looked a little creeped out
Waffle House or Bust
July 3rd, 2012
12:32 am
Woody – Girls like this would not even look your way. Stick to farm animals dude.
NickB
July 3rd, 2012
12:34 am
Victorino is 2 years older than Bourn, not as a good a defender and on the downward side of his career where may end up being a liability in center and not good enough with the bat for the corners.
3 years $27 mill is all he’s worth IMO, maybe 4 years $36 mill, if anyone gives more than that in $$$ or years, I think they will end up regretting it
Woody Woodward
July 3rd, 2012
12:34 am
Don’t make me laugh, waffle. Farm animals be hissin’ at you. Kinda like the pained expressions on the wimmin’ in that photo.
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
12:36 am
I’d keep Delgado over Minor
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
12:36 am
and how do we know they came with you?????
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
12:38 am
I don’t see ant syrup stains on them, must notta had waffles I guess
Woody Woodward
July 3rd, 2012
12:38 am
Me, too, nolie. He’s more composed than minor. I like his location and power combination. He may not be the hardest thrower in the league, but he can bring it better than most.
Woody Woodward
July 3rd, 2012
12:39 am
They just come from their day job at the cheetah, nolie. Take the night shift at the Smyrna waffle house.
Bobby H
July 3rd, 2012
12:40 am
The last thing I would ever do is click on something that a-hole, WHOB, linked, for fear of my computer getting some kind of venereal disease.
But if he’s next to a female in that link, he’s either at at a wake and standing next to the casket, or he’s showing off his sleeping sister.
Capt.Mudd
July 3rd, 2012
12:40 am
And I appreciate the efforts made by many people on this blog to accept and allow ‘free speech’ to take form, albeit in a less than savory manner when our Braves don’t meet our expectations. We learn and grow with each and every blog as it’s catalyst D.O.B. rhetorically assembles a unique storyline for each board. It’s not surprising in the least that the dynamic of this baseball community leaps and falls with each Braves outcome….what is remarkable is the manner in which we all assist in the development of this internet forum.
Free speech comes with a price….and, regretfully, perhaps too much so people get their feelings hurt and spend time analyzing the dynamics of verbal discourse gone bad. For those who are affected; please remember this is only a ‘past-time.’ If daggers come your way just dodge them accordingly and move on, enjoy what you like about this public forum and to heck with the non-essential content.
Tellingly, all of us ’screw-up,’ and feel less than adequate….the imperfect nature of the human malady is alive and well on this MLB blog as it is in our daily walk; and, as delightfully implausible as our Braves seem to be this season…..so are we. Take delight in being human and enjoy free speech and eachother….Huey Lewis had it right in their 1988 pop hit; “Perfect World.” “Ain’t no living in a perfect world–there ain’t no perfect world anyway…..ain’t no living in a perfect world; but they’ll keep on dreaming of…….living in a perfect world.” It’s okay, dream on folks.
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
12:43 am
his fastball can hit mid90s, but he needs more command of it, and a more consistent breaking ball IMO
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
12:47 am
The Capt. waxing philosophical tonight I see. Yes free speech can have a price tag.
Think I’m gonna hit the hay. TTFN y’all. take care
ccrider
July 3rd, 2012
12:57 am
NickB: Catcher-McCann $12Mil. 1st-Freeman .5 Mil., 2B-Prado $8 Mil. SS-Simmons.5 Mil, 3rd- C.Headley in a trade with players from trades of Bourn and Uggla or Nick Castellanos(blocked in Detroit by Miguel Cabrera) or Mike Olt from Texas(blocked by Adrian Beltre). RF -Heyward-$2 Mil
Sign Cody Ross 3 Years $5 mill a year and If Hanson is traded the player coming back would be a young outfielder like a Peter Bourjos-$.5 Mill. All of which would add up to $30 mill for the Starting Lineup, $10Mil for the Bullpen and $ 5Mill for the Bench Leaving $45 mill to spend on Starting Pitching.
The A Bomb
July 3rd, 2012
1:05 am
ROSENTHAL: The Braves remain high on Mike Minor, Julio Teheran and Randall Delgado, but they’re looking for more consistency in their rotation. If they can get a difference-maker such as Matt Garza, they could include one of those three in a deal.
ANALYSIS: When Ken Rosenthal uses Matt Garza and difference-maker in the same sentence, he’s lost all credibility. Guy would just be more of the same of what we have.
Woody Woodward
July 3rd, 2012
1:12 am
Abomb– whats the knock on garza? He doesn’t walk many guys, 8 k per 9, and he’s got a 4 ERA on a lousy team.
ab initio
July 3rd, 2012
1:18 am
The Braves stink.
The A Bomb
July 3rd, 2012
1:20 am
Lifetime below .500. Wasn’t good enough to stick on Tampa’s roster. I mean he’s alright….but a difference-maker?
The A Bomb
July 3rd, 2012
1:22 am
Plus….what’s he making? Close to $10 million? I’ll pass.
Ward
July 3rd, 2012
1:36 am
Hello everyone! Hanson didn’t pitch too bad, but the hitting is like Sh*t again. Maybe the Braves should start thinking about a bat? In other words is there any types of trades Yet! I hope the Braves can at least win two from this series?
Hmmmm
July 3rd, 2012
1:37 am
Brave killer (both offensively and defensively) Victorino to the Yanks? Yes please
*(and send Hamels out west somewhere … they can’t hit him either)
Ward
July 3rd, 2012
1:44 am
What I can’t figure out, is why can’t the Braves hit against crappy pitchers? You would think the Braves could hit crappy pitchers well. Mind boggling to me? It’s been happening quit frequently…..Braves bats have sure been up, and down all year.
Ward
July 3rd, 2012
1:48 am
Another thing that’s boggling, is why hasn’t there been any thing done to the bench? The Bench is terrible, and yet no changes? Boggling????????
Ward
July 3rd, 2012
1:54 am
What is the Braves management thinking? Are they going to trade, or just tease us? I’m just boggled at all this evaluation stuff?
Ward
July 3rd, 2012
2:12 am
I’m not very pleased with this loss, but I’ll rebound. At least the Hawks are doing some thing…… Baseball is a game of Patience…….I tell you. All, have a good one, and Peace my friends……We will get them tomorrow, and “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
Ward
July 3rd, 2012
2:31 am
Before I go….. I have one post. It should read……Braves know how to wake up Bad pitchers from the dead, and give them new life in it’s eternity……..Little Humor…. Peace Out! Let’s hope for a better day tomorrow…..”Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
nolie
July 3rd, 2012
3:38 am
Greinke is very unlikely, the rest are not really guaranteed difference makers as far as I’m concerned.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
6:02 am
Well, from the looks of it, that was 1 “ugly” loss. Owned by Samardjza? Guess he turned the calendar to July and started pitching better, dude was awful in June.
Uggla hustled out a hit, good to see. BMac struggles continue. Reminds me of Nate McLouth in 2010…
BTW, I do agree, Hanson should not have gone out there for the 7th. The pen hasn’t been stellar outside of Kimbrel, but I feel better with them than a Tommy Hanson who’s pitched for 6 already… Might not have won us the game, but that’s what I’d have done.
rev4hb
July 3rd, 2012
6:17 am
fredi needs to go team has to many losing streaks no fire in them. j venter is he hurt does not look to be throwing as hard as he did last year no 97,98 mph most i saw was 94mph on his fastball.
richbrave
July 3rd, 2012
6:44 am
DOWN ON THE FARM
LYNCHBURG
JR GRAHAM fails in his attempt at a league leading ninth win and the HILLCATS fall 5-4 late.
RHSP JR GRAHAM [2.82 ERA] 6.0 IP, 6.0 IP, 6 H, 2 HR, 4 R/ER, 1 BB, 3 SO.
LHRP CHASEN SHREVE [L 4-4, 1.57 ERA] 2.0 IP, 1 H, 1 R/ER, 2 BB, 0 SO.
DH ADAM MILLIGAN [.239 BA] 2-4, 2 R, 1 SO.
LF BOBBY STEVENS [.265 BA] 1-4, 1 R, 1 2B [9], 2 SO.
3B MATT WEAVER [.252 BA] 2-3, 1 2B [6], 1 RBI [22], 1 SO.
RF DAVID ROHM [.222 BA] 1-3, 1 RBI [9].
1B CHRIS GARCIA [.299 BA] 0-2, 1 RBI [35], 1 BB.
Ease
July 3rd, 2012
6:44 am
Happy “Drive 60mph In Lighter Than Normal Rush Hour Traffic So That You Get Boxed In By Semi’s All The Way To Work” Day!
richbrave
July 3rd, 2012
6:56 am
DOWN ON THE FARM
HILLCATS win the night-cap 5-2.
RHSP CODY MARTIN [W 8-6, 3.31 ERA] 5.0 IP, 4 H, 1 R/ER, 0 BB, 8 SO.
RHRP JUAN JAIME [SV 16, 3.06 ERA] 2.0 IP, 2 H, 1 R/ER, 1 BB, 4 SO.
Lead-off MYCAL JONES [.263 BA] 1-2, 1 R, 1 RBI [13], 1 BB, 1 SB [12].
SS NICK AHMED [.262 BA] 1-3, 1 SO, 1 SB [22].
DH ADAM MILLIGAN [.241 BA] 1-3, 1 R, 1 HR [6], 1 RBI [22], 1 SO.
2B EMERSON LANDONI [.211 BA] 1-2, 1 R, 1 RBI [7].
RF DAVID ROHM [.227 BA] 1-2, 1 R.
richbrave
July 3rd, 2012
7:05 am
DAVID:
Saw by you response last night regarding the post-game quotes that most twitter accounts want them, and most bloggers don’t. Please don’t drop them here. I will never twitter. Although I only peruse them from time to time, I still want that option. Thanx.
George
July 3rd, 2012
7:12 am
VERY,weak,weak,weak,
POOR pitcher — Hanson
send HIM to the minors.
He is a poor excuse for a PITCHER.
Ty
July 3rd, 2012
7:16 am
Why do you not write about fixing the batting and offense instead of just the pitching? The braves offense is offensive at some times.
Braveone
July 3rd, 2012
7:18 am
From the previous blog which had 1,748 comments, nolie led the way with 138 posts. There were 155 different poster names. Here are the Top 25:
Rank Poster Frequency
1 nolie 138
2 TheOnlyBravesFan 133
3 MIBravesFan 112
4 NickB 108
5 Tomahawkin 69
6 ChattTownBrian 51
7 Tomahawk Mafia 50
8 Lew 49
9 Efrim 46
10 McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô: 41
11 jeffrey d 38
12 Mark 37
13 MFin04 29
14 Venice Jim 29
15 The A Bomb 28
16 ncscoots 25
17 bravesgrl4life 24
18 richbrave 23
19 David O’Brien 21
20 Trey 20
21 ncbravesfan90 20
22 TennesseePaul 19
23 Bat Masterson 18
24 Jake W. 18
25 Mitchell 18
Jimmy
July 3rd, 2012
7:20 am
Lose 4-1.
Yeah, we sure need another starting pitcher. A “”difference maker”.
I’ve been saying it for two months. Pitching isn’t our issue. HItting is.
Maybe Garza would have shutout the Cubs and we win 1-0. I don’t know.
richbrave
July 3rd, 2012
7:22 am
DOWN ON THE FARM
ROME
ROMANS refuse to be ‘intimidated’ by KANNAPOLIS and win 6-4.
Lead-off CF TONY MUELLER [.276 BA] 1-5, 1 R, 1 2B [5].
Rookie ROSS HEFFLEY [.279 BA] 3-5, 3 R, 2 2B [4], 1 RBI [4].
LF ROBBY HEFFLINGER [.248 BA] 2-3, 1 R, 1 RBI [14], 1 BB.
1B ‘BillyBECK’ BECKWITH [.296 BA] 1-4, 1 RBI [33], 1 E [7, fielding].
RF WIL SKINNER [.265 BA] 2-4, 1 R, 2 RBI [31], 1 SO.
3B BRANDON DRURY [.204 BA] 2-3, 1 2B [16].
DRU breaks the mendoza-line raising his BA over 75 points since early season.
RHSP JARRETT MILLER [W 5-2, 3.82 ERA] 5.0 IP, 5 H, 1 R/ER, 4 BB, 9 SO.
LHRP FABIAN WILLIAMSON [H 2, 1.59 ERA] 3.0 IP, 2 H, zeros, 1 BB, 3 SO.
RHRP JOHN CORNELY [4.88 ERA] 0.2 IP, 1 H, 3 R/ER, 3 BB, 2 SO.
RHRP IAN MARSHALL SV 1, 3.86 ERA] 0.1 IP, 1 H, zeros.
Ease
July 3rd, 2012
7:32 am
VERY,weak,weak,weak,
POOR blogger — George
send HIM to the pasture.
He is a poor excuse for a BLOGGER.
Ease
July 3rd, 2012
7:36 am
George with another meaningful, intelligent post.
Wait, who am I kidding. STUPID, STUPID, STUPID.
archie
July 3rd, 2012
7:36 am
It’s painful to watch “the heart of the order” Chipper, Freeman, Uggla and McCann. No one can advance a runner. It takes 4 singles to score a run.
Jimmy
July 3rd, 2012
7:40 am
archie – That’s why we need an impact starter. Someone to plug right into the rotation.
Ease
July 3rd, 2012
7:40 am
I love the people that will constantly vilify a pitcher for not throwing 1 hit shut-outs every time out.
Hansom pitched a very good ballgame, even till the end. A little unlucky (can you even use that word?) there in the seventh, but he got out of it only down three. A little offense would have been extremely helpful.
Brave New World
July 3rd, 2012
7:40 am
2012 rotation is finally starting to take shape: Hudson, Hanson, Jurrjens, Sheets and Dontrelle Willis. All kidding aside, Dontrelle might be worth the risk – as a fourth outfielder (he can hit, and he’s athletic enough to make the transition).
MFin04
July 3rd, 2012
7:41 am
Guy with a +10 ERA beats us, and Tommy Hanson gives it up after the 5th or 6th inning, where have I seen this before? If last series vs the Cubs wasn’t a disgrace this one certainly is.
Ease
July 3rd, 2012
7:41 am
Hansom. I like that. Has a certain ring to it.
Much better than Big Red as one like to call him.
richbrave
July 3rd, 2012
7:44 am
DOWN ON THE FARM
MISSISSIPPI
Blue Monday in MOBILE Bay as the BEARS win 6-2
RHSP GARY MORAN [L 2-7, 2 97 ERA] 5.1 IP, 6 H, 1 HR, 2 R/ER, 3 BB, 3 SO.
RHRP ANDY WILSON [12.79 ERA] 1.0 IP, 3 H, 1 HR, 4 R/ER, 2 BB, 0 SO.
‘Liberty’ ANDY has blowed up. Time for extended ST.
LHRP BRENT LEACH [4.05 ERA] 1.2 IP, 1 H, zeros, 1 SO.
Bandits are three-hit. Bummer!
3B JOE LEONARD [.270 BA] 1-4, 1 R, 1 HR [4], 1 RBI [33], 2 SO.
PR/CF TODD CUNNINGHAM [.309 BA] 1-1, 1 RBI [29].
P GARY MORAN [.222 BA] 1-2, 1 SB [1].
AP
July 3rd, 2012
7:45 am
At game last night…Hanson’s fast ball tops at 91mph and that was only one or two that I saw. Usually around 88-89. This man is 6-4 225 lbs and should be able to throw harder. Jeff S. hits 94-96 consistently with good off speed stuff. Hanson’s game is location and his change-up. It seems he is a very average major league pitcher but one of our best! Problem?
Jimmy
July 3rd, 2012
7:45 am
Ease – Red Hansom pitched well enough to win.
Pitching is not our problem.
Get Willingham in LF, Prado at 3rd, Chipper comes off the bench as a SH PH and let him play Sundays. Rotate Ross and McCann more than once a week.
We are right on the edge, but it is slipping away.
Ease
July 3rd, 2012
7:47 am
Guy with a +9 ERA beat the Red Sox and no-one here complained. Fact of the matter is that Samardzija had a terrible June but has the potential to be a big time starter. I think he is still making the transition from bullpen guy to starter, but the guy has some good stuff. You don’t just accidently strike out 11, even if it is the Braves.
Ease
July 3rd, 2012
7:50 am
Uggla had a terrible June but people were more concerned about Simmons regressing or McCann struggles…Bad months happen…Good months happen…Sometimes the flipping of the calendar is all it takes. Good streaks, bad streaks, winning streaks, losing streaks, etc, etc…
Its baseball. Its what it is all about.
TheOnlyBravesFan
July 3rd, 2012
7:58 am
Ease bringing the common sense!
Jimmy
July 3rd, 2012
8:00 am
We are 35-11 when we score 4 runs or more.
Taylor Wooten
July 3rd, 2012
8:02 am
This team seems to play with little passion or energy…almost going thru the motions.
Jeff R
July 3rd, 2012
8:03 am
Hanson had a decent performance last night. The offense was stymied. Tis the story.
Jimmy
July 3rd, 2012
8:06 am
We are 3-23 when we score 2 runs or less. That includes being shutout 7 times.
Jeff R
July 3rd, 2012
8:08 am
Pitching is not our [the Braves'] problem.
Well, yes it is. Hudson, Hanson, and then…?
Jurrjens still has to prove himself (I hope he does) and Minor and Delgado are talented kids still learning how to pitch in the big leagues.
I’d say the rotation is in need of work provided the Braves want to keep contending this season.
Frankie Wren
July 3rd, 2012
8:08 am
Silver lining?
Cardinals were 41-38 at this point last year, same as Braves.
Need some shakeup definitely both offensively and pitching staff, but seriously, second half could be something special.
Same time this team could fall into a deeper slumber and finish last in the East.
6-5 pickem.
Frankie Wren
July 3rd, 2012
8:10 am
“news here in Honolulu reporting that victorino might land with yanks.”
This team really could use a personality like this guy. Been seriously lacking for some time now.
Tomahawkin
July 3rd, 2012
8:11 am
Jimmy
“We are 3-23 when we score 2 runs or less. That includes being shutout 7 times.”
OUCH!
You are not gonna win games in the playoffs if you cant execute and do the little things in low scoring games
Ease
July 3rd, 2012
8:11 am
I am not going to dump on Fredi like a bunch of you do, I mean other than taking a bat out there himself, I don’t think there is anything else he can really do to help the offense. He plays with the lineup hoping that someone catches fire an yada yada yada. What I would really wish for is for the man himself to catch fire. Show some gawd damned emotion in the dugout. Get fired up, rally the troops, something, anything. All we get is this stoic look on his face and the occasional “Lets Go Danny,” clap clap.
Tomahawkin
July 3rd, 2012
8:12 am
AP
“At game last night…:”
I feel bad that you wasted time and money to watch that trash last night
Jimmy
July 3rd, 2012
8:12 am
Jeff R – The problem is we aren’t winning even with Hudson and Hanson pitching. Nothing consistant at the plate.
Right now, if a starter goes seven innings and gives up three runs, he probably loses.
Tomahawkin
July 3rd, 2012
8:13 am
Im Going out on Assult and will say that the Braves will win the Next 3!
Who’s With Me!
Ease
July 3rd, 2012
8:18 am
My cats get the tendency to to all of the sudden just sprint around the house for minutes at a time like they are crazy. I call it being possessed by the bejesus. That is what Fredi needs to do. Show some energy, do the salsa, cartwheels, something, anything. Put some emotion into this team, inspire, lead by example, send the spirit of bejesus into their midst. I don’t lay the lack of emotion at the players feet, it’s all on the manager AND coaches.
Jimmy
July 3rd, 2012
8:19 am
I just voted 50 times for Bryce Harper!
ncbravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
8:19 am
“Silver lining?
Cardinals were 41-38 at this point last year, same as Braves.”
But the Cards had HOF manager LaRussa at the Helm. We have a buffoon.
Bat Masterson
July 3rd, 2012
8:19 am
RF -Heyward-$2 Mil _ ccrider
Come on, cc. What are you planning there, Heyward for half a season?
Jeff R
July 3rd, 2012
8:22 am
Cardinals were 41-38 at this point last year, same as Braves.
Good point. And as others have noted, no other team in the NL East has been able to breakaway.
Jeff R
July 3rd, 2012
8:23 am
Jimmy, the Braves could use some offense help, too. But I’d prioritize the starting pitching, if that’s the choice.
Jimmy
July 3rd, 2012
8:23 am
Ease – That is why, whe there is a disputed call, the manager HAS to go there and EarlWeaver the umpire. Fredi is a laid back kind of guy. I’ve never seen him go off on anyone.
Except at the IHOP when they tried to cut him of at 20 pancakes.
ALL YOU CAN EAT MEANS…ALL YOU CAN EAT!!
archie
July 3rd, 2012
8:25 am
Fun Stat # 1: The no-money Pittsburgh Pirates have a better record than the Braves.
Fun Stat # 2: With 292 at-bats, Jose Bautista has 27 HR, 64 RBI.
Fun Stat # 3: With a combined 511 at bats, McCann and Uggla have 20 HR, 78 RBI.
count_schemula
July 3rd, 2012
8:27 am
We need to see if the Nets want Uggla.
Glenn
July 3rd, 2012
8:33 am
What was everyone saying when they announced the name of the Braves new Hitting Coach? I have to wonder how this teams’ current stats compare to his previous teams’…my guess is that the White Sox were thrilled the Braves took him off their payroll and we’re seeing why.
Only a couple of players are showing any consistency this season, and the only player whose shown any improvement from last season is Heyward, who, in reality, is actually healthy this season in comparison to last, which should make a dramatic difference in stats by itself.
So the question everyone should be asking is, do we really need more/better batters, or do we need a better batting coach? I think the answer is obvious, especially for a team trying to hold down their expenses. Spend whatever you need to to get Don Baylor back.
Backdoor Slider
July 3rd, 2012
8:33 am
THE FREDI MISTAKE
Here’s an old post from October 12th, 2010 by The Capitol Avenue Club. See if it doesn’t now ring true to you:
THIS IS A MISTAKE
“I won’t spend too much time discussing this, but here goes.
Quite simply I think this is a huge mistake.
Fredi Gonzalez is not Bobby Cox.
Just because he has worked with Bobby Cox does not mean he will be as effective as Bobby Cox. He won’t.
The thing that made Bobby so great was his ability to get the most from his players. They always played hard, they never quit, they never said a single bad thing about him. A lot of this is a result of Bobby’s players-first management style, but also a result of Bobby’s personality. Fredi and Bobby do not have identical personalities, and Fredi will not be able to command the same type of respect from his players. He won’t be able to get as much out of them as Bobby did.
And then there’s the strategy thing. Let me just say, by the end of year one we will all wish Bobby were managing the games, where he only ordered one stupid bunt or only batted one player with a crappy on-base percentage at the top of the order or only used one too many relievers each night. Don’t expect the in-game managerial blunders to go away, this decision only exacerbates the issue.
Expect less of the things that made us love Bobby and more of the things that made us infuriated with him. That’s essentially what they’ve opted for, a version of Bobby with less of his good qualities and an exaggerated propensity for over-management.
Rather than finding the best man for the job, the organization has taken the easy way out. “He’s been a part of a successful Bobby Cox staff? Sure, we’ll hire him! That makes it simple, no thinking involved.”
Like I said, I don’t want to spend too much time discussing this. I’m not going to crucify him before he begins the job, and I’ll try to keep an open mind about this whole thing, but I do sincerely believe this is a gigantic mistake that the organization will severely regret.” — End quote.
Lamentably, what was written in 2010 has become glaringly and repeatedly true!
Lemke's Knuckler
July 3rd, 2012
8:33 am
I would swap both Minor and Delgado for Greinke in a heartbeat. But you know the Brewers will want any package built around Teheran. This is where Wren earns his salary, folks.
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
8:37 am
I still say they shouldn’t have to give up Teheran or Delgado for 2 months of Greinke. Crazy talk, imo.
Jimmy
July 3rd, 2012
8:38 am
Jeff R – Ok, I’ll admit there are holes in our staff, but I feel that what we are getting from them (and the bullpen) should be good enough to win.
And what the heck was that Medlin “stretch” thingy about? I thought he was going to the rotation. Not.
Braves rooter
July 3rd, 2012
8:39 am
Looks like they need to fix the hitting too. They can’t beat the Cubs? They can’t beat the Nats? They play and hit like little league. I have stopped attending games and have stopped watching them on TV too. If Liberty wants me back in the seats they will have to field a team worth going to see. This team is not it.
Ease
July 3rd, 2012
8:41 am
Greinke would not be a rental. Stipulations of the trade would be an extension of his current contract.
ncbravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
8:41 am
Good read, Backdoor slider. People can talk all they want to about personnel changes that may help the Braves (Greinke, Garza, etc) but until they make a change at manager, this team will underachieve and hover around .500. Gonzalez has proven in his first season and a half that he lacks both the leadership and tactical skills necessary to guide a successful baseball team. Given the right change at the top – a manager who will light a fire under these guys – the talent could rise to the top and we could see a 2003 Jack McKeon with the Marlins-like resurrection. But as long as Fredi is at the helm, this team will not be a factor come September.
GRAPHITE
July 3rd, 2012
8:42 am
make sure the trade know’s how to BUNT.
Bat Masterson
July 3rd, 2012
8:42 am
I voted for Chipper another 500 times this morning using extendheapforjimmyssake@gmail.com
Efrim
July 3rd, 2012
8:46 am
Heyward hitting .241/.281/.379(32 PA’s) in his last 7 games since being moved up in the lineup.
He had to slow down at some point. Now let’s see him get hot again, or at least start to take some more walks when the balls in play aren’t finding open space…
BravesFan99
July 3rd, 2012
8:46 am
Teheran or Delgado need to be in AAA Gwinnett, Medlen needs to be in the rotation and we need to buy a actual ace. THEN, we need Chipper to retire to free up his money, add two bats, one for 3rd and one for the bench and then just maybe this team can do something.
Why they sent the proven starter Medlen down to stretch out then stuck him back in the pen is beyond me. We have a really strong starter in Medlen but instead they want to use the two guaranteed loses. I really think Gonzalez needs to be replaced after this year. He is NOT a major league manager.
Jimmy
July 3rd, 2012
8:48 am
Bat – Thanks for thinking of me. You got a Chipper All-Star reference and a “extend Heap” reference too!
I knew there was a reason I liked you.
Jeffery D would have included a over-alls line in there somewhere.
Sylvester Bill
July 3rd, 2012
8:48 am
Ease
Those 8:11 and 8:18 posts are dead on. I hollar for Fredi to go out there and show some fire, but it never happens.
ncbravesfan
July 3rd, 2012
8:51 am
Bat, Chipper’s not playing at an All Star caliber level. If your going to vote that many times, at least vote for Bourn. He at least has performed as an All Star (that OF gaff Sunday aside) and deserves the spot.
Lew
July 3rd, 2012
8:52 am
Great game for the first six innings. Unfortunately, even Little League plays seven.
jerry
July 3rd, 2012
8:53 am
Uggla is not in a slump. He is in his usual Uggla mode. Sooner or later, probably later, he will have a hot streak but then lapse back into Uggla mode.
Jeff R
July 3rd, 2012
8:53 am
Jimmy, with Venters having a subpar season, I think management determined that Medlen was still best utilized in the pen.