7:15 pm July 1, 2012, by Carroll Rogers
JC Boscan III
July 1st, 20127:28 pm
Good luck to him — boy, we sure need a starter!
July 1st, 20127:29 pm
Good solid low risk/high reward signing. Him plus an acquisition of another starter will help the rotation tremendously.
Jason's Sweet Cheeks
IT’s a start but not enough.
Of course, the online cap-tip vigilantes will probably HATE this move as much as they hate Fredi’s cap-tipping!
July 1st, 20127:30 pm
jimmie is an a -hole
Happy for the signing, but left wondering if Jaret Wright has anything going on as well!
July 1st, 20127:31 pm
No, jimmie is right but lets keep this a politics free blog!
July 1st, 20127:34 pm
Wow..thanks Carroll. Wouldn’t that be great if he can come back
July 1st, 20127:49 pm
I agree lets talk baseball here. No a-holes in here
July 1st, 20128:00 pm
Mark Redmond is still throwing in his basement…. Sheets looks like a great pickup
July 1st, 20128:06 pm
Sheets would be a great story if he can hold up, but I doubt it.
And I agree about Obama. The only thing worse would be Mitts, lol!
Uggla needs a day off
July 1st, 20128:29 pm
Somewhere, Phil Niekro is practicing the knuckler again and saying he can still do it. lol
Hope this doesn’t make Chipper think he can jump grounders for another year. He and Uggla turned an ordinary DP grounder into a run for the other team today. Uggla’s throw to first was a dud.
July 1st, 20128:31 pm
Chipper doesn’t like him. Read his comments after that 18 strike out game
July 1st, 20128:47 pm
average team goes out and gets an average pitcher so we can remain what? AVERAGE.
July 1st, 20128:53 pm
Well I really love it!! Ben will brougth to the team a proven and veteran hurler, if he can stay out of DL it’ll be awesome…now point our cannons to find garza and get anothe bat in the infield (not a BIG one but someone that fredi and us can trust)
The Rev Al
July 1st, 20129:14 pm
Another low budget fix by the underfunded braves. Sheets surely has been a fine pitcher but it is doubtful that he will be a major addition to the team. A placebo. Nothing more. At least they can say they are doing something…..
July 1st, 20129:17 pm
I wonder if he can play 3B also????? hahahahahahhahahahha
Alaska Braves Fan
How much is enough? Well, you have to be able to afford what you purchase!!!! Sheets seems like a great addition. All of life is a bet on the odds. Odds are that he can help. So, go for it. Our bank account is not bottomless, eh?
Bob the Blogger
July 1st, 20129:34 pm
It looks like Medlen is not being considered for a starter slot. I know he is valuable as a reliever, but it’s easier to find middle relievers than starters. I’m not against the Sheets signing, as it has very low risk, but Medlen has performed well as starter.
It’s also becoming apparent that Todd Redmond is not even insurance at this point. What would have to happen for him to get a start in Atlanta? Unless he converts to the pen, he’ll probably never make it to the show.
jimmie likes jimmies
July 1st, 20129:41 pm
Nothing to lose….go get ‘em Ben.
July 1st, 20129:47 pm
Sheets will be interesting. It is not like it is costing us real money to try this.
Hey, we gave Obama a chance and Sheets could never screw it up as bad as he has. At least Sheets has experience at a real job!
July 1st, 20129:49 pm
This is scraping the bottom of the barrel. Almost want to hide my face as a Braves fan on this one. Can’t see the Yankees reaching for a cheap fix like this. Good luck to him anyway.
July 1st, 20129:51 pm
Jimmie: You’re exactly the kind o person I expect to say First (like it means something brainless wonder). Otherwise, interesting story.
July 1st, 20129:55 pm
OBAMA is a socialist but he does not suck. He is quite savy and manipulating. He will be your President for four more years. Thanks George W. as you are actually the one that does suck.
least of the east
July 1st, 20129:56 pm
I doubt this works, but it’s better to try this before trade deadline. who wants to trade another bunch of prospects for pitching ?
Sheets doesn’t have to do much to pitch better than Minor or maybe even Delgado. he might make the rotation by default.
how about that undrafted free agent we signed a few yrs ago from SUNy Binghampton named Scott Diamond. oh, we traded him to the Twins ! too bad, he’s 7-3 with a very good ERA.
Matt the Brave
July 1st, 201210:08 pm
Cheap Skates, do you not remember that the Yankees signed Bartolo Colon after he essentially hadn’t pitched the year before and had an awful year before that? Yes, the Yankees absolutely would have signed Sheets if they felt that he would fill a position in the rotation.
For me, I think this is a clear sign that the Braves aren’t ready to hand the reigns over to Medlen/Minor/Delgado/Teheran. I think that they will all end up in our rotation (or else in someone else’s) next year and the year after. I also think that Frank Wren is thinking that this might be the year to go for the World Series. I just hope he doesn’t mortgage 3 or 4 World Series for 1 now.
July 1st, 201210:14 pm
Again, if this is the signing of the pitcher they think will help improve the rotation, they should all be fired. Sure Sheets is a low risk/high reward type of pitcher, but if the Braves want any shot at all of making the post season, they need a legit starting pitcher via trade, someone like a Matt Garza, Ryan Dempster, or Zack Greinke. I would only go after them if they agreed to a long term deal because its not worth giving up a good prospect or two to have them pitch for the Braves for 3 months.
Sheets however is not the savior for what the Braves need. Hanson and Hudson are our only real decent pitchers, and we all saw what Hudson did today. The Braves need a very good arm, and Sheets is way to risky to think he will be that guy.
On a side note, at least we won’t have to witness another September Braves collapse like we did last season, they have pretty much been doing that the entire season with their win 8 games in a row, lose 9 games in a row, win 4 in a row, lose 3 in a row type of mentality. Every time they have a great opportunity to jump up to the lead spot in the division, they falter. So unless this team gets a true starting pitcher, they will be out of contention by August at the latest. So again, at least we won’t have to endure another collapse like last season when we all thought they were a good team, this year we all know they are a average team at best.
July 1st, 201210:16 pm
Sheets, why not? Nothing to lose. Greinke, if he is signed for a few years and we are willing to pay him, would be great. The Cubs, if we give up very little, would work, too.
What is with the Obama bashing? Is it health care? It seems to me that we conservatives would not want to allow freeloaders to go without insurance and then have us pay their medical bills when they get sick. I am mystified by politics today.
July 1st, 201210:20 pm
I often dislike what our president does, but I remember so very well the years of Truman and Eisenhower. Again, I didn’t always like what they did, but I respected both them and the office. President Obama, for a man who resides in the political center, has received a great deal of criticism he does not deserve. (If you think he’s a socialist, I invite you to review the definition of the term. He clearly ain’t no socialist!) In particular, the presidency must be respected!
Finally, what the hell does our president have to do with the signing of Ben Sheets?!! It was a good move by Frank Wren. He’s playing the odds. Sometimes the magic works, and sometimes it doesn’t, but Wren does’t have unlimited resources, does he then?
July 1st, 201210:23 pm
You clowns need to shut your pie holes and talk about the blog… I will hold my political comments because you idiots won’t like what I have to say…As for the story, I think that this is a great pick up..like someone said low risk, high reward….Couldn’t ask for more
July 1st, 201210:28 pm
Pardon my negative words…I just HATE to hear what some people have to say on a Braves blog…
July 1st, 201210:51 pm
It would be great of Sheets made a miracle comeback, but this is a real longshot. May as well resurect Glaus and Kawakimi too. And McOut. Wren is an insult to Braves’ fans, and Liberty Media doesn’t give a crap. This is a middle of the pack team and will remain there if they are lucky under the current front office and manager.
July 1st, 201210:54 pm
PS to Wren. Give Crowell a call while you’re at it.
July 1st, 201211:19 pm
This is not the place to discuss politics. Don’t be the stereotype, people. Oh, and instead of trying to be funny, CONTRIBUTE.
July 1st, 201211:54 pm
Ever notice that trolls tend to lean conservative? Interesting.
July 2nd, 201212:08 am
No risk signing. Not all of you but most of you idiots are why Atlanta is considered one of the worst sports cities in the country. Not to mention this rag of a newspaper.
July 2nd, 201212:21 am
Frank is in Hog Heaven….he thinks he’s doing a terrific job (please don’t anyone tell him otherwise The persons that should really be hung out to dry are John S and Bobby…..they are the ones who hired this idiot. ‘m afraid we are watching the best this team is going to be this year.
July 2nd, 201212:33 am
Note to John A. You’re one of the idiots I was referring to in my previous post.
what of it?
July 2nd, 201212:51 am
“best of all worlds”… where everything is for the best.
“No down side”
spoken like true fools. I’m sure all of the other teams in baseball were just too stupid to investigate this great feel-good story
You dummies really think Obama is calling the shots? Wake the F up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 2nd, 20121:44 am
I bet Sheets could strike out Obama!
July 2nd, 20122:14 am
As for the Yanks signing Sheets, it was clear that he only wanted to sign with Atlanta so he can spend time at home. For once, being in the South actually paid off. If he is truly pain-free, he could be terrific. If he can’t start anymore, he might be a great set-up guy. Garza is available, but we will have to cough up Delgado or someone of equal value, plus a couple of position or bullpen prospects. Pretty much the same for Dempster, Liriano or Greinke. If we gotta make a trade like that, I think Garza is the best bet. Durable and just needs some psychological counseling to turn him into an ace. Dude seems to just lose it around the 4th or 5th, then has to pitch out of a hole. But he has great stuff and great command. And we would have him for a while. The others are just rent-a-pitchers. We’ll know a lot more within a week.
As for presidential politics, I’m voting for the guy who will take my job, ship it to India, and then pocket the profit when he drives my company into bankruptcy. Then give half to the Mormon church. Love that guy.
July 2nd, 20122:20 am
“spoken like true fools. I’m sure all of the other teams in baseball were just too stupid to investigate this great feel-good story”
Ah, glad his agent jumped in and reported that he had no other offers. There were five teams watching him, but it was pretty clear he was hoping the Braves would make an offer. He was walking around in a Braves jersey and pitched his demo game in a Braves uniform. The guy is obviously a family man and values being able to spend time at home during the season. And what precisely is the downside that makes you so sure we’re all fools? It’s zippo. We’re paying him the equivalent of minimum wage unless he makes the ML roster. If his upside was total mediocrity, I would still make the deal. His upside is considerably higher than that, if you ever saw the healthy Ben Sheets.
July 2nd, 20122:30 am
“Ever notice that trolls tend to lean conservative? Interesting.”
There isn’t an actual conservative left in the GOP. They’d drag William F. Buckley or Barry Goldwater out and lynch them if they weren’t already dead. They almost did it to a decent conservative, Dick Lugar. They’re all wackjobs now, all of them. This bunch wants to go back to 1850 when even if they were eating dirt, the darkies were worse off. Made them feel superior.
July 2nd, 20122:37 am
I like the move Frank! Great job!
But what I most like is not having to give up our young pitching talent.
Continue to guard this talent Frank. The Braves will be better off in the long run if you do!
July 2nd, 20123:05 am
“I like the move Frank! Great job!
But what I most like is not having to give up our young pitching talent.
Continue to guard this talent Frank. The Braves will be better off in the long run if you do!”
Don’t you realize that all that matters is what happens in the next two weeks? Oh, wait. You’re sane. Sorry. It appears that many of the contributors here were at the Sheets tryout and, being seasoned judges of pitching talent, far better than Eddie Perez, who caught Sheets the other day and in his heyday in Milwaukee. And they know for a fact the man cannot pitch. And the only reason we signed him is because we’re cheap. It couldn’t have anything to do with not wanting to empty out our young pitching depth for a rental. Or that the dude MIGHT have a lot left, particularly with four years of rest for his arm. Yeah, he’s an injury risk. But he might also be a quality starter who just needs extra rest.
July 2nd, 20125:12 am
Where’s Steve Avery?
July 2nd, 20125:54 am
Rather than trade for a starter I’d prefer we trade for a reliever (I like Brandon Lyon, pitching great for the Astros) an then move Medlen to the rotation. That maes Medlen happy, stops jerking him around, and gives us another top reliver. Trade could be made for a coupl of low-end prospects and Lyon’s salary for the rest of 2012 is affordable.
Train Wreck Bystander
July 2nd, 20126:34 am
I could have sworn politics were verboten on this blog.
Frank Wren was a riverboat gambler in a past life, no doubt about it.
But sometimes the long shot pays off.
July 2nd, 20127:51 am
@trainwreck, like glauss and lee and uggla…
as for obama , usa used to be like the yankees,trying to be the best, not caring too much what the rest of the world said. NOW we’re the Braves,trying to stay out of the cellar, signing washed up ball players. Obama’s fault, naw, but it would be nice if we had some leadership, somewhere, pushing the country to be better, the best, not following “old world ‘economies (read europe) in to socialistic mediocrity……. oh well had some great barbeque on us 23 a little south oh the Highlands turnoff and the peach cobbler was delicious. I took a ride to flavor town!
July 2nd, 20127:54 am
Great story. Much more probable than Jimmy Morris. Sure would enjoy the Sheets movie alot more and I really like The Rookie, every time I watch it.
July 2nd, 20128:13 am
“Sheets wanted a shot at the postseason?”
What on earth did he sign with the Braves for?
July 2nd, 20128:16 am
Decent move… pretty low risk since I doubt they are paying him much… at this point we need all the help we can get. Just get a big bat and we will be on our way.
He wanted to be close to home Joey.
July 2nd, 20128:18 am
What bat do you suggest? We have only got 4 now. Prado, Freeman. Simmons. and my Jason. The rest just think they are.
July 2nd, 20128:22 am
This could turn out to be a good deal for the Braves. IF Sheets can eventually get back to anywhere near his glory days in Milwaukee and log some strong innings, he makes a good piece of the puzzle. This team still needs an ace. Zack Greinke would be that ace. Pair Sheets with Greinke, Tim Hudson and Tommy Hanson and all you need is a lefthanded pitcher. Hudson isn’t the ace he once was, but he is a solid pitcher. Mike Minor continues to prove he isn’t what Atlanta thought he was when it drafted him. Randall Delgado may be ready some day but it isn’t now. Julio Tehran may be part of the package it takes to get Greinke. The problem is that if the starting rotation had enjoyed half the success that the staff enjoyed last season, this team would be WAY out in front in the NL East. Offensively, they score plenty of runs to win games. Then, there is Johnny Venters and the bullpen…
July 2nd, 20128:54 am
Braves have some pieces, but bringing in sheete doesn’t do much;we need help at catcher, 2nd( know, 13.5 million buys you playing time, thanks wrenn), 3rd, left field and if bourne will not resign then center.
July 2nd, 20129:34 am
Bat Uggla 8th………..get some hitting help…………….
July 2nd, 20129:46 am
Any suggestions for this sorry team.
July 2nd, 20129:49 am
i went to grad school in monroe. they are close to giving women the right to vote there.
at least it’s a low risk move. we have time to see if he’s any good before 7/31. go bravos!
We will find out everything this week. Sheets has his 1st start this week so the braves will know what they have.
July 2nd, 20129:52 am
“Nothing wrong with his arm”Lots have nothing wrong with their arm”,but could not hit the broad side of a barn.Certainly hope this is not the case.
July 2nd, 20129:55 am
Good Morning Richie, Is Sheets enough? IMO no Need some hitters. Only got 4. Need One more starter. Braves done for 2012. Right pieces. Look out 2013.
old braves fan
July 2nd, 201210:01 am
we already have pitchers who can go 4=5 innings we need one that can go 9 or we need to work with the young guns we have. I think the kids will be fine given time. Might want to think center field for when Michael move on after this year.
July 2nd, 201210:20 am
I like this signing and hope Sheets can contribute. The Braves still need at least one more starter. Garza would be a good fit, Greinke would be great. I want to see them go after Hamels as I’m pretty sure Philly is ready to unload. While they’re at it, they should bring in a proven hitter, as well.
July 2nd, 201210:34 am
I like this move but I love Jimmy’s comment.
It has come to this: Ben Sheets may be in the Braves rotation within two weeks | HardballTalk
July 2nd, 201210:56 am
[...] Except now we learn that Sheets will get all of two rehab starts and, assuming his arm doesn’t disintegrate, will join the Braves rotation by mid-July. Atlanta’s starting pitching has been a weakness all year, beset by injury and mediocrity, but I didn’t feel like things were so bad that they were reanimating corpses and plugging them in a week after the All-Star break. [...]
If we would have kept Lowe, we would not have this problem.
What happened to all of you – and I do mean ALL OF YOU (almost all of you anyway) who called me an idiot and worse all winter – for saying that the Braves would have pitching problems?????
July 2nd, 201211:03 am
I ask of you, what did Medlen do to piss all of his bosses off so much? The guy’s got a solid arm and, at least in my opinion, deserves a chance to prove himself as a starter, but they just won’t give him that chance. I have nothing against Sheets and, if he’s made a starter with the big team, I certainly hope he is successful, but I bet Medlen is getting tired of being leap frogged and is planning to leave when he can. Go Braves!
Jaded Braves Fan
July 2nd, 201211:12 am
Medlen’s had a much better attitude than I would have if I were in his position. What, exactly, was he sent to Gwinnett for? He had to watch for two months as Minor and Delgado struggled in the rotation, and now that he’s back up, he’s STILL having to watch them struggle in the rotation without getting a chance of his own. The only apparent result of sending Medlen to Gwinnett was that it contributed to our losing a couple of extra games due to a weakened bullpen.
Frank and Fredi do things that make you wonder if they have any plan at all.
July 2nd, 201211:20 am
Agreed, Disbott3000. Medlen has been one of the most reliable pitchers the Braves have had. I’m starting to wonder if there’s not something going on that we don’t know about.
Fantasy Baseball Blog at beondeck.com | Fantasy Baseball Advice
July 2nd, 201211:22 am
[...] Sheets signed a minor league deal with the Braves and could join their rotation in a couple weeks if he does well in the minors. Mike Minor and [...]
July 2nd, 201211:32 am
Didn’t know this is now a political forum but for what its worth people should be required to carry health insurance even if its subsidized. Healthcare is ultimately going to be needed by everyone making it amazing for such an advanced society that we can’t even agree that everyone deserves at least a minimum level of healthcare. Given the economic situation that greeted Obama he has done a solid job. The Braves likewise with all their holes have done a commendable job of staying in contention.
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July 2nd, 201211:40 am
It doesn’t really matter what they do at this point. It is obvious that the braves are a second fiddle team now. No hitters that scare any opposing pitcher, no dominating starter, not a clutch hitter in the line up outside of McCann ( who gets pitched around ) , and last but not least : a manager who looks like he watches the game sometimes, but would rather just sit and eat sunflower seeds while his pitcher is out there walking bases loaded. Once they get three or four runs down, then he gets somebody up in the pen..pathetic.
Ben Sheets (Braves) — BaseballMoves.com
July 2nd, 201211:45 am
[...] Source: ajc.com [...]
July 2nd, 201211:49 am
Are we positive that John Smoltz is finished ? Just asking ………
Zane Smith's Teeth
July 2nd, 201211:50 am
Jaime Moyer said no.
July 2nd, 201211:53 am
Great move by Wren! What is there to lose? This does not mean that the Braves will not go after another quality pitcher before the deadline and if the Braves can’t land another quality arm, then it will not be because Wren did not try. Wren does not fund this team personally and he can’t spend more money than is available to him or the team. For the budget that the Braves are currently working with, the team has been a great success so far this season. I would love to see them win the World Series, but giving us fans something entertaining to watch almost every day with the hope of seeing an underdog story written with a playoff and/or World Series finish is more than a lot of other teams fans have this season. Sheets could very well prove to be a vital cog in this future Atlanta Team.
July 2nd, 201212:00 pm
Hey, Frank, I heard that Len Barker is hoping to make a comeback later this year. He lives near Cleveland, in case you need to send a scout up there to check out his velocity.
July 2nd, 201212:43 pm
Maybe Sheets will be even better then before…it happens w/Tommy Johns sometime.
July 2nd, 201212:45 pm
Jaime Moyer and Don Mattingly are twins.
July 2nd, 201212:46 pm
Obama does not suck????????Really?
We know if anyone named bruce mac do doubt SUCKS!!!
July 2nd, 201212:48 pm
Smoltz has a better chance of a comeback than Sheets!!!!
July 2nd, 201212:50 pm
I heard Sheets demanded $150.00 a week, any truth to that????
@chop101 I agree with you on pitching. However, we only have the 4 kids hitting. They need some help.
July 2nd, 20121:06 pm
They are calling him a Veteran Pitcher but to me he will be a Rookie.
July 2nd, 20121:09 pm
Right Jack, they should treat him like a rookie and make him earn a spot on the roster just like anybody else.
July 2nd, 20121:17 pm
Maybe Doctor Andrews could buy the Braves
July 2nd, 20121:22 pm
chop101, “Great Move”? Really? What the freek are you smoking? Boy, aren’t we the best at taking discarded, oftentimes hurt, players for the minimum and see if they have lightning in a bottle… I am so tired of this… and you chop101…. it’s people like you who enable Wren to continue down this pathetic path. SHAME ON YOU!
July 2nd, 20121:25 pm
And JT… it’s his predecessor who sucks. Handing us and the next guy a steaming heep of sh*t!
July 2nd, 20121:35 pm
Really Dracula WOW Whatever you say. Who do you want. Cole Hammels is available. Give Wren about 200 million and he will give you a team. However, I don’t think you would be happy.
July 2nd, 20121:41 pm
Your right Count Dacula, I am so an enabler of dumpster diving. I want you to know that my comment on this blog just encouraged Wren to discard any ideas of gaining a proven quality player and instead he will just continue to scrap the bottom of the discarded player barrel. How do I know? Wren sent me a text, and said, “Jee thanks Chop101, our front office, which is sitting on a mountain of gold, was going to spend some of it, but just because you liked this no risk move, we are going to see what other aging and now no name players are available to add to the roster.” Oh no, waite, that never happened, as Wren or his superiors probably don’t even read these comments….dang it.
And Whiskey, I agree on the hitting part, would be nice to see another bat in the middle of the order that does not strike out 3-4 times a game.
July 2nd, 20121:47 pm
I couldn’t believe it when I saw Sheets in bullpen with Roger and Eddie before the game yesterday. I wish him the best of luck!
July 2nd, 20121:51 pm
What the Sheet, Braves have always given guys a second chance if they can get them on the Cheap. Could be a win-win or nothing really lost.
When/if a deal is struck with the Cubs get Travis Wood also..a lefty who is healthy & solid.
Not sure this staff can hold up even with one more starter…. get 2!!
July 2nd, 20121:57 pm
good luck Ben
July 2nd, 20121:59 pm
Usually guys come back even stronger after tommy john. Sheets says he trusts his elbow now and that is half the problem with the recovery, trusting your arm again. I think it’s a great signing of Frank.
Has anyone mentioned Carlos Lee? Right-handed power. ATL not far from his ranch in Texas. Heck, maybe Chipper could help him round up some cattle. He’s a rancher boy. Carlos’ bat would be a great addition to the line-up. Move Prado to 3rd for 2 games, then to left for a game to get Chip in there and give Carlos a day off. If Chipper gets hot, then maybe a few games switched with Uggla. Prado is the key here. He’s so versatile, I would feel comfortable having him play just about anywhere on the field.
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