Not a clown question, bro: Could Simmons push Harper for ROY?

He wowed Braves players and coaches in his first few weeks as a non-roster invitee at spring training, and three months later Andrelton Simmons has had a similar effect on a much larger audience during his first month in the major leagues.

There’s something about these Braves rookie defensive prodigies from Curacao with first names that begin with “Andr.” Remember a 19-year-old Andruw Jones hitting two homers in his first plate appearances in the 1996 World Series?

Simmons (No. 19) has fit in well in the clubhouse and surpassed most expectations on the field.

Simmons (No. 19) has fit in well in the clubhouse and surpassed most expectations on the field.

Not saying Andrelton’s first month in the majors is on a par with Andruw’s postseason coming-out party, but for overall impact on a daily basis, the Braves’ current Curacao contributor has similarly exceeded all reasonable expectations offensively, while living up to all the billing with the glove.

On Saturday, ESPN’s Baseball Tonight named him its defensive player of the month for June. Not bad for a 22-year-old who’d never played a game above Double-A until June 2.

Oh, and Simmons hit .333 (30-for-90) in 25 June games with 10 extra-base hits (three homers), 14 RBIs, .365 OBP and .522 slugging percentage. After his first month in the bigs, he leads the team in slugging and OPS (.887), which is pretty stunning even if it’s a relatively small sample size and not something that we should expect to continue for an entire season.

“The way I look at it is, what he does defensively is unbelievable, and anything he brings offensively is a bonus,” catcher Brian McCann said. “And the guy happens to be hitting with guys in scoring position, getting the big hit, hitting .330 — he’s doing everything. He’s mature. He expects to be here and to produce at a high level. He’s a big-time athlete, and I don’t think there’s much that he can’t do.

“When you’re an athlete, you make adjustments and you learn on the fly. Guys like that usually have great careers.”

The guy who plays to his left, double-play partner Dan Uggla, has also been wholly impressed by Simmons’ first month.

“Awesome,” Uggla said. “The kid’s had, like, 10 multi-hit games already [including eight in the past 16 games]. He’s getting it done. Just getting it done. Putting together good at-bats, getting hits, he’s making plays.”

On the unexpected offensive production, Uggla said: “He’s been solid. I guess when he was in A-ball last year he won the batting title. It’s just that there’s so much hype on his defense because his defense is so good, that maybe his bat kind of gets overshadowed. But he can hit. We saw it in spring training, and obviously they [team officials] saw it in the minor leagues.

“I don’t know if they expected it to carry over the way it has been, but I know he expected it to. That’s what HE expects out of himself.”

In his past 16 games, Simmons is 23-for-58 (.397) with seven extra-base hits (two homers) and 10 RBIs.

He only had one full season of minor league ball (along with a rookie-league half season in 2010 and two months in Double-A this year). His current batting average is 22 points higher than the .311 he hit to win the Carolina League batting title last season at Lynchburg (when he was the only player in the league to hit .300), and his .887 OPS is nearly 100 points above his OPS at Double-A before his promotion.

The last prominent Brave to hit better in the majors than he ever hit in the minor leagues was McCann, who hit .333 with 24 homers and a .961 OPS in his first full season in the majors. (Jeff Francoeur also fits the description to a degree, with his .300 average and .884 OPS in 70 games as a rookie, but Frenchy did hit .327 with a .980 OPS in short-season rookie ball. Plus, his OPS slipped to .742 in his first full major league season.)

Anyway, this morning I asked McCann about sharing that unusual trait, if Simmons were to keep it up – guys who hit better in the majors than they did in the minors.

“Everything’s magnified here,” McCann said of the major leagues. “You show up here every day and it’s different than when you show up in Pearl, Mississippi. Every game matters. I think in the minor leagues, more or less you’re trying to get to the next level. It’s not necessarily about wins. And it’s just a different feel. You’re on the big stage.

“You wait your whole life to get here, and this is your chance to prove that all the hours you put in the cage and all the hours you put on the field, that you’re ready. You don’t know how many chances you’ll get, and when you get here you’ve got to be all in.”

Simmons is definitely that, McCann said.

“This guy is off the charts now,” he said. “Like I said this guy can play in the big leagues as long as wants just playing defense. And he rakes [offensively]. You put those two things together and you’ve got a recipe for a superstar.”

After the first two months of the season, it seemed that the engraver could go ahead and start putting Bryce Harper’s name on the NL Rookie of the Year award. But now? Not so fast.

It’s just been one month for Simmons. He has to make up ground on Harper, who’s hit .274 in 56 games with 24 extra-base hits (eight homers), 22 RBIs, eight steals and a .347 OBP and .475 slugging percentage (.822 OPS).

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Harper was the huge early favorite for NL Rookie of the Year, but Simmons could push him for the award if Simmons has a few more months anywhere near as good as his first one was in June.

But how ‘bout if Simmons keeps up something close to his current pace for another month? Then it would no longer be a clown question, bro. Suddenly there is competition for NL ROY.

The Braves have quite a run going in ROY balloting, and Simmons could give them a top-three finisher for the fifth consecutive season, or a top-two finisher for the third year in a row. Jair Jurrjens was third in 2008, Tommy Hanson was third in 2009, Jason Heyward was the runner-up in 2010, and last year Craig Kimbrel won the award by a wide margin over runner-up Freddie Freeman in a 1-2 Braves finish.

But that’s getting ahead of ourselves. For now, it’s just fun to watch the beginning of a career that looks like it’s going to be special, and to see what Simmons will do next.

“I’m beyond impressed with Andrelton Simmons,” McCann said. “The way he handles himself on and off the field, the way he shows up every day – he’s impressive.”

If you’ve seen interviews with Simmons, you all know he comes across as confident and mature beyond his years. He’s the same way when the cameras are off and the notepads and recorders are put a way.

As McCann put it, he’s confident “in a very good way. He’s humble, but he knows he’s got talent. You have to be that way.”

Braves GM Frank Wren said Simmons’ confidence and his ability to speak multiple languages are characteristics he’s seen in other young major league and minor league players from Curacao, including Andruw Jones, Jurrjens and Randal Simon.

“Almost every kid I’ve been around that’s from Curacao, they have a confidence,” Wren said. “A little more worldly because of the language abilities they have that are far and above the normal person, and I think it helps them in these situations…. It makes you pretty at ease in every situation. Because you’re so at ease socially no matter where you go, and you can mix with everybody.”

Of Simmons in particular, Wren said: “I think his confidence is probably more noticeable in the field. He’s not afraid to make a play, like the double play he started down in [Florida], falling to his right and throwing to his left and starting a double play. Most kids are going to eat that ball, and he just continued on because he has the confidence that he can finish the play.”

BRAVES LINEUP

  1. Bourn CF
  2. Prado LF
  3. Heyward RF
  4. Jones 3B
  5. Uggla 2B
  6. Freeman 1B
  7. Simmons SS
  8. Ross C
  9. Hudson P

• OK, the Ben Sheets signing today, didn’t get to a bunch of other stuff I was going to put in the blog, and I want to get it up before the game. So we’ll post it now. Let’s close with an old classic from the days when radio was eclectic and good, Badfinger’s “Day After Day.” This was one of those songs I heard so many times as a kid, it’s stuck in my brain pan forever, every note, every vocal inflection. You can hear it by clicking here, and see then do it “live” on a TV show by clicking here.

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“DAY AFTER DAY” by Badfinger

I remember finding out about you,
Everyday my mind is all around you,
Looking out from my lonely room
Day after day,
Bring it home, Baby, make it soon,
I give my love to you.

I remember holding you while you sleep,
Everyday I feel the tears that you weep,
Looking out of my lonely gloom
Day after day
Bring it home, Baby, make it soon,
I give my love to you.

Looking out of my lonely room
Day after day,
Bring it home, Baby, make it soon,
I give my love to you.

I remember finding out about you,
Everyday my mind is all around you,
Looking out of my lonely gloom
Day after day,
Bring it home, Baby, make it soon,
I give my love to you.

– David O’Brien, Braves/MIB blog

1,748 comments Add your comment

Billy Beaneater

July 1st, 2012
1:50 pm

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
1:50 pm

Thanks, DOB!

Venice Jim

July 1st, 2012
1:51 pm

Thanks, DOB!

just to let you know

July 1st, 2012
1:51 pm

bravesgrl4life

July 1st, 2012
1:51 pm

Thanks, DOB!

BFChris27

July 1st, 2012
1:51 pm

Thanks for new blog!!!!!!!!!

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
1:51 pm

Braves have their work cut out for them today. Spotting the Nationals 4 runs.

VaBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
1:51 pm

Let’s see how the bats respond in this inning. It will show alot.

Jake W.

July 1st, 2012
1:51 pm

Worst start of the weekend, time to replace Huddy with Medlen…..

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
1:52 pm

Bourn was fighting a laugh after that misplay. Heyward was covering his face like he was covering a laugh. Unreal. Nothing funny about it to me.

barack o'drama

July 1st, 2012
1:52 pm

no chance, even if he’s hitting .330 at the end of the year he cant beat the harper hype.

Venice Jim

July 1st, 2012
1:53 pm

LA Times listed top 10 rookies in each league (in the estimation of the writer) – apparently he had never heard of Andrelton…

The A Bomb

July 1st, 2012
1:53 pm

Good of Bourn to help his new team out in the first.

VaBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
1:53 pm

Totally a ball right there. WOW. It’s not where the catcher catches the pitch it’s where it crosses the plate and it didn’t go over the plate.

ncbravesfan

July 1st, 2012
1:53 pm

Game over, people. Thanks for showing up in today’s big game, Huddy.

Now on to an unimpressive split with the lowly Cubs

YoungerThan ThatNow

July 1st, 2012
1:53 pm

Good blog as always DOB! And Andruw’s two ‘96 WS homers is a sweet memory for all of us long time Braves fans! Andrelton is very special as well… hoping for a long Braves career and steady improvement for him!

GO BRAVES!

phoenix

July 1st, 2012
1:54 pm

Uggla in the All-Star game: what an embarrassment. I’d rather have Chase Utley on crutches, not to mention Omar Infante. Oh well, at least the fans got it right with McCann this year. And I’m not sure why anyone would vote for Chipper. He was an All-Star when he was able to play like one. Odds are he would be injured before the game while taking BP.

Thrashers Fan!

July 1st, 2012
1:54 pm

Who else wanna fu<k with Hollywood court.

Ralph

July 1st, 2012
1:54 pm

And this is our best pitcher, can’t wait til next year.

phoenix

July 1st, 2012
1:55 pm

Two days, two CF misplays, lots of laughter for Bourn. Reminds me of the old days with Melky.

bravesgrl4life

July 1st, 2012
1:55 pm

Gonna be a frustrating afternoon.

Jaded Braves Fan

July 1st, 2012
1:55 pm

The Nats have destroyed Huddy this year. I think this 11 earned runs in about 6+ innings. He’s just not what he used to be.

TuffShhhtuff

July 1st, 2012
1:55 pm

Wonder if DOB brought a good supply of softballs with him today for the post game press conference. Looks like he will need a few today.

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
1:55 pm

Here’s one minor complaint I’ve had once All Star rosters are announced (besides the “I can’t believe the fans voted for that guy!”)

I just want to see a list of the rosters. Not a 10 paragraph story. Just a list. That looks something like DOB’s lineup.

Bourn – CF
Prado – LF…..etc

I clicked on ESPN’s “NL Roster” link and it was just a story about Votto.

VaBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
1:56 pm

Heyward slashes a single to right.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
1:57 pm

Nice hit, JHey!

ncbravesfan

July 1st, 2012
1:57 pm

“Gonna be a frustrating afternoon.”

Not really. At least they got blown away early and now, we can get on with the rest of our day. Better than wasting three hours and having them blow it late.

Weaseal

July 1st, 2012
1:58 pm

Nice old song -Thanks!!

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
1:58 pm

Sorry about your mann, McFann

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
1:59 pm

Going to be a long day at the ballyard today. When the Braves allow four runs or more in a game they are 14-27.

usnavyvolfaninva

July 1st, 2012
1:59 pm

Braves dig themselves into a huge hole yet again.

Disgusted

July 1st, 2012
2:00 pm

There is a whole half of baseball left so yes, Simmons could push Harper for ROY.

The Sheets sign in interesting —- long shot but if he is anything like he was, watch out N.L. East.

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
2:00 pm

Better than wasting three hours and having them blow it late.

So you’re not watching anymore?

ncbravesfan90

July 1st, 2012
2:00 pm

I just wish we had one ace….Washington has 3…

Disgusted

July 1st, 2012
2:01 pm

Hudson is not a top of the line starter anymore. Not done, not bad at all but more of a number three guy right now.

Tennessee Braves Fan

July 1st, 2012
2:01 pm

Ok guys, Getting married Saturday and first stop on the honeymoon will b Sunday in Philly 2 watch the Bravos away from Turner Field. Does anyone have any info on things I should check out while at Citizens Bank Park?

Sons of Rick Matula

July 1st, 2012
2:01 pm

Wren … why not Jamie Moyer? If Sheets, why not Smoltz?

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
2:01 pm

Somebody wake up Lew and tell him Hudson isn’t an ace. Very good pitcher, love him as much as any Brave, but if somebody thinks he is a true #1 on a playoff hopeful team fighting against team like the Nats and Giants … you’re in a fantasy world.

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
2:01 pm

got a dilemma for Final vote candidates…. Bourn (he deserves it), or Chipper (last year).

Mark

July 1st, 2012
2:02 pm

We are beat before I can get in from church, get a bite and get comfortable. Bummer!

iTiSi

July 1st, 2012
2:02 pm

Ben Sheets=Livan Hernandez II

VaBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
2:03 pm

I’m voting for Chipper. It will be the last time any of us can do this. Don’t blow it.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
2:03 pm

Much better inning, Huddy!

njbraves

July 1st, 2012
2:04 pm

It’s not a dilemma…Chipper is the choice.

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
2:04 pm

Ask Chipper if he thinks Hudson is a top of the league pitcher you want in a definite must win game. Do it in private though, not in front of a camera. IDK though, Chipper is pretty honest.

Hugo Z Hackenbush

July 1st, 2012
2:04 pm

I’m just hoping that Sheets isn’t the least bit overweight, or else we’ll have a new, never-ending wave of fat jokes…

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
2:04 pm

That Blue Bell girl has to feel ridiculous

Braveone

July 1st, 2012
2:04 pm

From the previous blog which had 3,167 comments, nolie led the way with 186 posts. There were 193 different poster names. Here are the Top 25:

Rank Poster Frequency

1 nolie 186
2 NickB 175
3 The A Bomb 115
4 Tomahawk Mafia 112
5 ChattTownBrian 101
6 TheOnlyBravesFan 95
7 DS1 75
8 Venice Jim 73
9 phil 69
10 Bat Masterson 63
11 Brava 60
12 ncbravesfan90 59
13 IlliniBrave 58
14 VaBravesFan 57
15 Lew 56
16 Disgusted 55
17 Efrim 55
18 Mark 52
19 brian 51
20 McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô: 49
21 Ward 42
22 Powder Blue 38
23 richbrave 38
24 Capt.Mudd 37
25 monty 36

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
2:04 pm

Nothing wrong with the Ben Sheets move. The Braves have nothing to lose by signing him. If he turns about to be similar to the Scott Proctor signing, who they signed after his Tommy John surgery, then it will be a loss.

The A Bomb

July 1st, 2012
2:04 pm

Disgusted — Do you honestly believe as long as Gonzalez is at the helm, “WATCH OUT NL EAST” will be a slogan associated with the Braves in any way, shape or form?

Come on now.

nolie

July 1st, 2012
2:05 pm

one career type year might be the only chance some guys will ever have at the all star game, why begrudge them that thrill if they have played well? not sure how the subject warrants getting all upset over anyway

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

July 1st, 2012
2:05 pm

TOBF

Thanks. It’s a bummer, for sure—not so much because he didn’t make it, but because of how his year has gone so far…

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
2:05 pm

Wanna Raise Some Hell?

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
2:05 pm

Terrible at bat again by Uggla.

CSP

July 1st, 2012
2:06 pm

Dave, love Badfinger, but hate the remastered versions. What do you think?

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
2:06 pm

I’ll bet Harper gets the last spot

TuffShhhtuff

July 1st, 2012
2:07 pm

My weather page on DTV says it’s now 104 in ATL already. Was only predicted to hit 103. Did Chip actually just say “Freeman is swinging a hot bat?”

VaBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
2:07 pm

I wouldn’t mind Melky being on the bench, but there is just no way he start’s over super stars IMO.

nolie

July 1st, 2012
2:07 pm

go vote hundreds of times with made up addresses and get Chipper in

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
2:07 pm

It isn’t Hudson’s fault at all. He is coming off another surgery and ain’t getting any younger. You want a sinkerball pitcher to have pin point sink and location to be your consistant stopper. Not a chance anymore I don’t believe.

Mitchell

July 1st, 2012
2:08 pm

Hey, this way we don’t have to wonder what the Nationals are doing.

LAG

July 1st, 2012
2:08 pm

Back from vacation and finally back to the blogs.

Congrats to Uggla and Kimbrel for being selected to the ASG. Still room for Bourn and maybe Prado, either via injury replacement (Kemp) or the Final Vote. Let’s get them there.

Jaded Braves Fan

July 1st, 2012
2:08 pm

“Ben Sheets=Livan Hernandez II”

The difference is Ben has heat and can miss bats. Plus, he’s three years younger than Livan.

Odds are Sheets blows his arm out again, but until that happens I think he can help.

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
2:08 pm

I love the Sheets deal, He will Comeback and be the savior of the back end of the rotation, Bank on It

He will come out and Dominate like Jorge Sosa did in 2005 or like Jaret Wright did in 2004

Love the signing

As for the game, I’m tempted to turn it off

Mark

July 1st, 2012
2:09 pm

Uggs. That a way to rip it and shut up all these people questioning your all-star selection!

nolie

July 1st, 2012
2:09 pm

those “superstars” will get plenty of opportunities, joe schmoo might just get one. Granted its different now with the all star game determining the home field, so I can understand if that is the main beef

The A Bomb

July 1st, 2012
2:09 pm

One thing’s for sure — we will NEVER see Gonzalez managing the NL All-Star team. NEVER.

Bat Masterson

July 1st, 2012
2:10 pm

Don’t care about the All Star game. Still Chipper should go, tony L should just go away

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
2:10 pm

Ok, Chipper it is.

Sheets is better than Livan. He has the ability to miss bats.

Sopheee

July 1st, 2012
2:11 pm

I think Harper will get it too.

bravesgrl4life

July 1st, 2012
2:11 pm

At least Simmons is making Gio work

Capt.Mudd

July 1st, 2012
2:11 pm

Is Ross going to count this game as his ‘easy money’ game? He was not bourn to play like dat.

VaBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
2:11 pm

Fans just vote for players out of spite. Like Panda beating David Wright…. LOL Do fans really wanna see Panda play more than Wright? NO

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
2:11 pm

I warned you guys about the Power of The Curley W! And their Natitude!

They really remind me of the 1994 expos, Just a Serious pain in the groin for the Braves and us fans

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
2:12 pm

Wow, Simmons putting up a fight

VaBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
2:12 pm

Simmons is having a helluva AB

Disgusted

July 1st, 2012
2:12 pm

“Somebody wake up Lew and tell him Hudson isn’t an ace. Very good pitcher, love him as much as any Brave, but if somebody thinks he is a true #1 on a playoff hopeful team fighting against team like the Nats and Giants … you’re in a fantasy world.”

CTB — I never really thought that we ever was an ACE. Very solid number 2 guy in his best yrs with both Oakland and us, but an ace, no. And that is not a knock on him. I like what Hudson has done here and in Oakland, but he is not a Pedro, CC or Randy Johnson.

Did he ever take some good Oakland teams past the first round? Maybe once. And in one of those yrs, think it was 2000 or 01, that Oakland team was better than the Yankees & they came so close but could not overcome them. Those A’s teams should have gotten to the series at least once in that time.

The Braves do not have an ace. They have two very good pitchers at the top of the rotation in Hudson and Hanson.

Hudson had a bad first innig for sure, costly.

The A Bomb

July 1st, 2012
2:12 pm

Great at-bat by the kid. Regardless.

Ric Flair to Right

July 1st, 2012
2:12 pm

Call me crazy I’d go with this

bourn
simmons
prado
heyward
freeman
jones
uggla
mac

TBbravesfan

July 1st, 2012
2:13 pm

keep working him sim

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
2:13 pm

Wow! That’s how you do it.

TuffShhhtuff

July 1st, 2012
2:13 pm

Pitchers don’t “miss” bats, batters “miss” pitches, SOMETIMES!

Sopheee

July 1st, 2012
2:13 pm

If you’re voting, vote for 10. One last time.

nolie

July 1st, 2012
2:13 pm

oh baloney, millions of fans do not vote for a guy out of spite, utter silliness

VaBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
2:13 pm

Simmons is a future star.

Mark

July 1st, 2012
2:13 pm

Managers that retire and are out of the game should not be allowed to come back and manage the all-star game. Let them assist or throw out the first pitch or something.

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
2:13 pm

That was a Pastornicky like At bat

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
2:13 pm

Gawd I wish Lil Andy started the season with us!

Bravefaninok

July 1st, 2012
2:13 pm

Simmons is running up Geo’s pitch count,love this kid!

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
2:13 pm

Great at bat by Simmons. Even if the Braves fail to score here, that at bat took a toll on Gonzalez.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
2:14 pm

Nice job making him work, Simba!

LAG

July 1st, 2012
2:14 pm

@ Tomahawk Mafia re: signing Sheets –
The problem with Proctor was that he actually ended up in Atlanta. Nothing he did in Mississippi or Gwinnett warranted him coming up (ERA never below 5 at any level). If Sheets is horrible in the minors, I’m pretty sure the Braves would part ways with him.

Good AB, Simmons. Especially on a hot day like this.

Capt.Mudd

July 1st, 2012
2:14 pm

Rookie shows ‘em how to work the pitcher—especially given the climate of today’s affair.

VaBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
2:14 pm

nolie

I’m being stubborn and sarcastic.

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
2:14 pm

D. Ross hitting better than BMac…..

Mark

July 1st, 2012
2:14 pm

Right now Ross needs to be playing more too!

Bravefaninok

July 1st, 2012
2:14 pm

VaBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
2:13 pm

Simmons is a future star.

The way he is playing you can drop the future,the kid is a star.

1957 Braves Fan

July 1st, 2012
2:14 pm

If the goal was to avoid a sweep then the Braves managed to do that. Braves always waste their opportunities.

Mitchell

July 1st, 2012
2:14 pm

Come on Huddy.

Bat Masterson

July 1st, 2012
2:15 pm

Simmons is trying to get Gio out of the game singlehandedly

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
2:15 pm

Good job, Ross!

KING BUCKY

July 1st, 2012
2:15 pm

Bringing up the ‘96 world series almost like talking about the ‘78 season to a Boston fan.

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
2:15 pm

Gio getting wild…. take until strike 2 Huddy

BravesfaninWis

July 1st, 2012
2:15 pm

While Simmons has been very good for us and he hopefully will be for years to come, he won’t get ROY over Harper. Harper really does bring more for his club. He is also great defensively, has a great bat, and I believe just has much more hype and is living up to it.

On a side note, leave it to the Braves to screw away any opportunity they get. They sure came out on fire today huh? This team just completely collapses under pressure. Pretty sad that they have homefield advantage, and they have to choke away a chance at gaining ground on the division leader. I just think this team is allergic to success these days.

VaBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
2:15 pm

I bet the other 49 states would rather see Chipper than Panda, Or rather see Wright than Panda.

Disgusted

July 1st, 2012
2:16 pm

A- Bomb. If Sheets is good, Fredi or no Fredi the Braves will be making noise in the NL East.

And certain bats like Uggla and Chipper have to wake up. Mc Cann too. Don’t know what is wrong with these guys.

Bourn does not look like an All-Star they way he had played CF the last couple of games. He deserves to be Booed for that 1st inning miscue. Very BUMB!!!!!!!!! Bad baseball.

nolie

July 1st, 2012
2:16 pm

it seems that Huddy, like Glav,has a lot of first inning troubles

The A Bomb

July 1st, 2012
2:16 pm

Pitching around Hudson to get to Scott Boras’ prized client.

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
2:16 pm

4 -pitch walk to the pitcher. Make him pay Bourn, that’s an unpardonable sin (according to Jay Howell)

Venice Jim

July 1st, 2012
2:16 pm

Make your All-Star case here, Michael…

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
2:16 pm

If nothing else, the Braves are making Gonzalez work hard. I doubt they score here though.

Andrelton Simmons

July 1st, 2012
2:16 pm

Giving the Braves ability to hit with RISP this is going to be a groundout to the pitcher to end the inning….

TBbravesfan

July 1st, 2012
2:16 pm

come on bourn just a hit just a hit.

Jaded Braves Fan

July 1st, 2012
2:16 pm

“Did he ever take some good Oakland teams past the first round? Maybe once. And in one of those yrs, think it was 2000 or 01, that Oakland team was better than the Yankees & they came so close but could not overcome them. Those A’s teams should have gotten to the series at least once in that time.”

Huddy’s actually never been on a team that’s won a playoff series. The A’s had that crazy stat of being something like 0-9 in potential series-clinching games while he was there.

It would be nice if the Braves could win a series for him. Great pro who’s had some very unfortunate Octobers, team-wise.

Mitchell

July 1st, 2012
2:16 pm

Except Michael Bourn hasn’t had a clutch hit in his career.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
2:17 pm

nuh uh

July 1st, 2012
2:17 pm

grand slam time for homer machine

Jay Dubu

July 1st, 2012
2:17 pm

Bourn should not be swinging at the 1st pitch unless it’s a meatball right down the middle.

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
2:17 pm

Mitchell

July 1st, 2012
2:17 pm

Alright, let’s just get a run.

Bat Masterson

July 1st, 2012
2:18 pm

Gio will probably never throw another strike

Andrelton Simmons

July 1st, 2012
2:18 pm

Well it wasn’t a ground out to the pitcher but it did end the inning!! Great job hitting with RISP Braves…

VaBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
2:18 pm

Bourn is having a terrible game. Not getting the All Star nod is really messin with him.

nolie

July 1st, 2012
2:18 pm

3-0 and he couldn’t wait for another ball?

Brava

July 1st, 2012
2:18 pm

The A Bomb

July 1st, 2012
2:18 pm

Scott! Boras!

ncbravesfan90

July 1st, 2012
2:18 pm

How can they catch a ball hit right to them and we can’t? Washington that good?

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
2:18 pm

Terrible luck. I am unsure if the Braves will have a similar opportunity the rest of this game, but it was fun to see Simmons and Hudson make Gonzalez work the count.

BFChris27

July 1st, 2012
2:18 pm

Well, made Gonzalez throw a lot, hopefully it gets him out early.

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
2:18 pm

Wren said Sheets could potentially join #Braves rotation within a few weeks.

Replacing Minor? If we trade for a pitcher, who would they replace? Not Delgado….

Mitchell

July 1st, 2012
2:19 pm

Wow, he did actually hit that really hard.

Not that that has ever counted for anything.

drool drool drool

July 1st, 2012
2:19 pm

nolie

July 1st, 2012
2:19 pm

Bourn is a bumb

Hugo Z Hackenbush

July 1st, 2012
2:19 pm

51 pitches already…

Disgusted

July 1st, 2012
2:19 pm

Bourn is not getting it done today.

Bad fielding miscue in the 1st inning and now makes an out with the bases loaded.

He deserves to be Booed.

Note that that is 2 fielding mistakes in the last 2 games. Not getting the job done.

LAG

July 1st, 2012
2:19 pm

Braves aren’t missing many gloves today…

Jay Dubu

July 1st, 2012
2:19 pm

If Bourn’s line drive out played the way it was broadcast on radio…it’s not going to be the Braves day today.

TuffShhhtuff

July 1st, 2012
2:19 pm

Is it just me or do the Braves always have two outs when the bases get loaded? Would be interesting to see who leads the league with the bases loaded without scoring. Bet the Braves are right up there near the top.

VaBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
2:19 pm

Giants fans were “spirited” in voting. Belt finished 2nd in fan voting at 1B, Crawford 2nd at SS, Sanchez 4th at 2B, Pagan 5th in OF.

Alot of wasted votes for undeserving players.

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
2:19 pm

nolie

The count was 2-1. That first pitch to Bourn was called a strike, but the score box at the top of the screen showed the count incorrectly.

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
2:20 pm

Bourn shouldn’t have even swung.

nolie

July 1st, 2012
2:20 pm

OCD at all Va?????

bravesgrl4life

July 1st, 2012
2:20 pm

Bourn not making a case for re-signing today.

richbrave

July 1st, 2012
2:21 pm

Nothing on the board, but a 31-pitch inning will ultimately get it done. Great job ALDRELTON!

Capt.Mudd

July 1st, 2012
2:21 pm

Nice strandation…..rock o n

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

July 1st, 2012
2:22 pm

How come every time the Braves do something for the Troops, the Braves get their butts whooped? Ticks me off…

Here’s to a fun comeback!!…

Sopheee

July 1st, 2012
2:22 pm

Thanks for clearing that up Tomahawk because I thought it was 3-0 too.

ncbravesfan90

July 1st, 2012
2:22 pm

“Replacing Minor? If we trade for a pitcher, who would they replace? Not Delgado….”

I sure would hope the pitcher we traded for would replace Delgado..then we might actually have a rotation that could compete with Washington’s, if Sheets returns to form.

Abandon

July 1st, 2012
2:22 pm

Bourn deserves to be the Braves All Star. Chipper got the sympathy nod last year. He’s barely played this year at all. It would be a joke if he is named. A bad one

VaBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
2:22 pm

No, just seen it tweeted. San Fran tried like heck to get there guys in the starting lineup.

kenhotlanta

July 1st, 2012
2:24 pm

BravesfaninWis: How does Harper bring more to his club than Simmons has to us?

TBbravesfan

July 1st, 2012
2:25 pm

ol huddy can get um out now.

VaBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
2:25 pm

Well the guys showed some fight last inning lets see if they can get a run or 2 back.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
2:25 pm

There isn’t any limit on the number of times you can vote for the 34th player, is there? I don’t see any mention of that on the ballot or recall one from last year.

Bat Masterson

July 1st, 2012
2:25 pm

I just voted for Chipper 22,000 times using abandon@gmail.com

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
2:25 pm

Hudson has settled down. He made some bad pitches in the first inning, but with a little defensive help he would have escaped that inning with much less damage.

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
2:26 pm

Bourn giggling after his screw ups aggravates me more than a poor at bat or whatever. You just don’t do that in my book.

The A Bomb

July 1st, 2012
2:27 pm

Harper may be popular in Vegas and the D.C. area.

Cocky pr@$# hated most everywhere else.

Chipper is a lock.

nolie

July 1st, 2012
2:27 pm

I don’t know, I assumed there was the same limit as on other players, course thats easy enuff to get around

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
2:27 pm

Drunk cheering girl is calling Martin “Marten”

VaBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
2:27 pm

Andruw Jones always did that, Strikes out with bases load, results in a big smile, Ground into a double play, results in a big smile. We lose the game, he’s smiling lol

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
2:27 pm

For those of us who hate the way the Braves hit with runners on base, the Yankees had bases loaded an no outs against the White Sox and failed to score.

bravesgrl4life

July 1st, 2012
2:28 pm

Can we make Gio work again here?

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
2:28 pm

Cocky pr@$# hated most everywhere else.

I don’t mind Harper.

nolie

July 1st, 2012
2:28 pm

I did not see a strike call, he raised his hand a bit but usually is more demondtrative> I did head an announcer say that but I assumed he was wrong

The A Bomb

July 1st, 2012
2:28 pm

Good to see Bourn’s Nationals contract went into effect as of July 1.

The rare 5 1/2-year, $82 million deal.

Venice Jim

July 1st, 2012
2:28 pm

Nice shot, Jason!

VaBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
2:29 pm

Heyward with another hit, vs great LHP BTW

TNScott

July 1st, 2012
2:29 pm

TBbravesfan

July 1st, 2012
2:29 pm

seems like were always one out to late for a hit

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
2:29 pm

Well done, JHey!

nolie

July 1st, 2012
2:29 pm

good for you Bat, now do it three or four more times ;)

Bat Masterson

July 1st, 2012
2:30 pm

Atta boy, Jason

Come on chipper

nuh uh

July 1st, 2012
2:31 pm

i love chipper, big hom0

Venice Jim

July 1st, 2012
2:31 pm

BFChris27

July 1st, 2012
2:31 pm

Chipper!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

VaBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
2:31 pm

There we go! On the board

Bravefaninok

July 1st, 2012
2:31 pm

Old Man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TNScott

July 1st, 2012
2:31 pm

Sopheee

July 1st, 2012
2:31 pm

Vote for ten.

The A Bomb

July 1st, 2012
2:31 pm

BY THE POWER OF METAMUCIL!

LAG

July 1st, 2012
2:31 pm

It may only be one inning, but that’s how a 3-4 combo is supposed to hit. :)

nolie

July 1st, 2012
2:31 pm

way to go young guy and old f@rt

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
2:32 pm

Chipper!!!!!!!

TBbravesfan

July 1st, 2012
2:32 pm

see what i mean

B_F 54

July 1st, 2012
2:32 pm

nuh uh

July 1st, 2012
2:32 pm

good thing he hit a double, now uggla won’t hit into a DP

Mark

July 1st, 2012
2:33 pm

As much as I liked the Bourn deal last year we should use him this tradeline the same way as we did last year. Get as many prospects as we can because Boras will demand more than he is worth at this point. He is 30 and he really strikes out too much for the money he will get. Don’t get me wrong, I like him and he is good, but not for the money he will get or the length of the deal.

bravesgrl4life

July 1st, 2012
2:33 pm

Lets keep it going, Danny.

Hugo Z Hackenbush

July 1st, 2012
2:33 pm

Heyward now second to Simmons in OPS.

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
2:33 pm

More laboring by Gonzalez. Good.

Jay Dubu

July 1st, 2012
2:33 pm

Sheets didn’t pitch last year, and was 4 – 9 with a 4.53 era in 2010 for Oakland.

Braves need to stop this non sense. Stop shopping at the dollar store for parts to your porsche.

Heyward is a beast on the bathpaths!

TBbravesfan

July 1st, 2012
2:34 pm

come out your shirt swinging uggla

ncbravesfan90

July 1st, 2012
2:34 pm

Why would anybody throw Uggla anything but a changeup?

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
2:34 pm

Dan Uggla, never makes contact with an offspeed pitch in the zone and he never makes contact with a guy on base.

richbrave

July 1st, 2012
2:34 pm

DOWN ON THE FARM

GWINNETT

G’Men’s historic losing streak continues 5-3 yesterday.

Lead-off JOSE CONSTANZA [.304 BA] 3-5, 1 R, 1 SO.

SS TYLER PASTORNICKY [.254 BA] 2-5, 1 SO.

RF FELIX PIE [.286 BA] 1-4, 1 RBI [17], 1 SO.

DH ERNESTO MEJIA [.301 BA] 1-4, 1 SO.

LF STEFAN GARTRELL [.233 BA] 1-4, 2 SO.

C JC BOSCAN [.196 BA] 1-4, 1 2B [9], 2 RBI [17], 1 SO.

RHSP ERIC JUNGE [4.84 ERA] 7.0 IP, 4 H, 1 R/ER, 1 BB, 5 SO. great start!

RHRP CORY GEARRIN [L 3-1, 1.25 BA] 1.0 IP, 4 H, 4 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 3 SO.

Four unearned runs decide the game, and GEARRIN gets the loss. What a bite.

LHRP ADAM RUSSELL [6.82 ERA] 1.0 IP, 1 H, zeros, 3 SO.

5:05 p.m. start today in LAWRENCEVILLE

nolie

July 1st, 2012
2:34 pm

could somebody just shoot Uggla? he deserves to die for his play lately

Mark

July 1st, 2012
2:34 pm

At a boy Uggs. You keep showing them you desreve that all-star spot.

Ralph

July 1st, 2012
2:34 pm

Ric Flair to Right
July 1st, 2012
2:12 pm

I don’t think your crazy, I think Fruti is crazy for not adopting it, I have been calling for it for two weeks now.

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
2:35 pm

Braves need to stop this non sense. Stop shopping at the dollar store for parts to your porsche.

Of course! Why didn’t they sign that other All Star that’s just sitting on his couch in June??

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
2:36 pm

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
2:36 pm

At least they are making Gonzalez work, but Uggla’s at bat was awful. They need to start making Gonzalez pay for his struggles.

Hugo Z Hackenbush

July 1st, 2012
2:37 pm

74 pitches now. Might be gone after five or six if they can keep it up…

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
2:37 pm

Can’t keep defending Uggla. Inexcusable missing pitches right down the middle. It is getting old fast.

richbrave

July 1st, 2012
2:37 pm

David O'Brien

July 1st, 2012
2:38 pm

richbrave

July 1st, 2012
2:38 pm

Same last night. Right down broadway, whiff-UGGS!

David O'Brien

July 1st, 2012
2:38 pm

I posted this to wrong blog early: Simmons fouled off 8 straight pitches in that 14-pitch walk

TBbravesfan

July 1st, 2012
2:38 pm

nuh uh-

uggla don’t even hit here lately.

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
2:38 pm

Uggla definitely needs to make adjustments, but he never does. He swings at every pitch as if it was a damn fastball.

Waffle House or Bust

July 1st, 2012
2:38 pm

All my predictions have come true from this series.

1. Fredi changes lineup (all three games) – check!
2. Braves lose two of three (they will lose today) – check!
3. Bloggers claim it is still early in the season. – check!

Can I be manager now?

David O'Brien

July 1st, 2012
2:38 pm

Five Braves batted in 3rd inning. Four hit the ball hard. Uggla struck out.

Waffle House or Bust

July 1st, 2012
2:39 pm

Uggla – Our all star.

JOKE!!!!!

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
2:40 pm

Of course nolie makes a sarcastic joke about Uggla’s struggles. Doesn’t want to look wrong in any way supporting Uggla and then admitting he is really hurting his team missing very hittable pitches.

bravesgrl4life

July 1st, 2012
2:40 pm

Simmons needs to teach Danny the way to make a pitcher work.

Abandon

July 1st, 2012
2:41 pm

The problem as I see it is before, when the whole lineup was struggling, pitchers were pitching around Uggla so his power wouldnt beat them. Thats why his OBP is so good. But now that the rest of the lineup is heating up, they are going after Uggla as the weakest link.

nolie

July 1st, 2012
2:42 pm

that is called mocking the blog Brian, nothing to do with what you claim. Over a season he is definitely an asset.

Mark

July 1st, 2012
2:43 pm

Uggla is going to be the downfall to the WAR or at least he should be. Uggla is terrible and if WAR says hes good then it is terrible too!

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
2:43 pm

The pitchers have been reaching base in this series far too often. That could turn out to be a huge mistake.

bravesgrl4life

July 1st, 2012
2:44 pm

Way to pick it, Freddie!

Sopheee

July 1st, 2012
2:44 pm

Nice grab, FF.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
2:45 pm

Good play, Freddie!

nolie

July 1st, 2012
2:45 pm

place is crawling with idjits today, though I suspect that several of our unknown posters are the same idjit….

Bat Masterson

July 1st, 2012
2:45 pm

Hudson being clever not letting Gio sit down

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
2:46 pm

They’re all me, nolie

Bill M.

July 1st, 2012
2:46 pm

The Braves are just awful to watch. With the signing of Sheets, that means Wren is not trading any young pitchers. What is wrong with Bourn??? He can’t wait until season is over, he will not sign with Braves. If the Braves are way out by end of July, they should think about trading Bourn, Hudson, McCann & JJ. This team is just not built to compete for a division title or wild card.

nolie

July 1st, 2012
2:50 pm

well if thats so Jeffrey, come up with some smarter ones too huh?

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
2:50 pm

That inning could have been better. Hudson has the top of the order due in the 5th. I foresee problems.

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
2:51 pm

Those late calls by the HP Ump drive me crazy!

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
2:52 pm

If the Braves are way out by end of July, they should think about trading Bourn, Hudson, McCann & JJ

They won’t be way out. No need to consider this.

Ralph

July 1st, 2012
2:52 pm

Trade Uggla NOW, I sure somebody would give us a case of balls for an ALL STAR.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
2:53 pm

Good catch, Chipper!

Abandon

July 1st, 2012
2:54 pm

Well, call me an idiot 2 bc I don’t see how anyone can say Dan Uggla is an asset so matter of factly. If Dan Uggla wasn’t playing 2nd base he would just be another player, and the fact that he plays it as bad as anyone else in the majors is what makes his All Star selection kind of a joke.

The A Bomb

July 1st, 2012
2:55 pm

Uggla talk is ridiculous.

He’s Fredi’s godson and is treated differently. And he’s the type of player that drives the fan base crazy.

He’ll go 1 for 40 followed by a 23 for 40 with 10 homers. I don’t ever remember a more inconsistent player wearing a Braves uniform. But it’s worthless to debate his value because he’s so loved by Godfather Fredi and Uncle Frank. Plus, he hustles and that makes him look “better.”

He HAS played pretty well at 2B, though.

nolie

July 1st, 2012
2:55 pm

it always amazes me how many folks are willing to look like fools in a public venue. anonymity I guess

ncbravesfan90

July 1st, 2012
2:55 pm

I thought Zimmerman had been hurt haha

VaBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
2:55 pm

That is the ballgame folks.

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
2:55 pm

OH Well

Game Over!

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
2:55 pm

Ted

July 1st, 2012
2:56 pm

Couldn’t have served it up better.

Bat Masterson

July 1st, 2012
2:56 pm

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
2:56 pm

This Nationals lineup is always so dynamic against the Braves. Some people claim that the Nationals offense is a weakness, but they are never weak when facing the Braves.

bravesgrl4life

July 1st, 2012
2:56 pm

Dang, Huddy, did you have to give the run back?

Yogi Berra

July 1st, 2012
2:57 pm

Man all the hate for Bourn…all you guys must be perfect, never made a mistake at work or life ? should we just call ya’ll God?

Bourn is one of 5 best players on team….Boooed..what kind of fan are you?
Bourn smiling..you don’t know why he was smiling.
God help your wife- kids–hope they don’t ever screw up.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
2:57 pm

waffle house or bust

I hope your family is eaten by bears

(Rob from SC)

July 1st, 2012
2:57 pm

Expected more from Hudson today

Abandon

July 1st, 2012
2:58 pm

Why can’t nolie just express his viewpoints instead of trying to intimidate people into silence by taking shots at their intelligence?

nolie

July 1st, 2012
2:59 pm

what intelligence???

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
2:59 pm

Its Imperative now that we take 3 out of 4 from the AAA Iowa Cubs, we cant make them look playoff calier like we did when we were in Wrigley. Furthermore we cant overlook them in preparation for the Showdown in Philly

Bat Masterson

July 1st, 2012
3:00 pm

eaten by bears

my god

:lol:

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:00 pm

nolie

July 1st, 2012
3:00 pm

waffle house or bust I hope your family is eaten by bears

OUCH!!! ;)

Bama Brave

July 1st, 2012
3:00 pm

Please dont bring back tim Hudson either…..

cheifBOSS

July 1st, 2012
3:00 pm

I don’t see why people are on Uggla!!! He is 2nd on the team with home runs and 1st in RBI’s! Why so much hate???

Ralph

July 1st, 2012
3:01 pm

Doesn’t matter of Huddy gives up 2 runs or 20 runs, either way Braves lose.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
3:01 pm

I would sure like to see an argument why the guy leading in every 2nd base category in the NL except batting avg should not be on the All Star Team because he happens to be slumping now.

If he had slumped for the first 3 weeks of the year and then hit like his first two months for the last 2 months, you’d all be fellating him

Ted

July 1st, 2012
3:03 pm

Uggla has been better than expected at 2nd and much, much worse than expected at the bat. He has limited range however and short arms (!) a lot of balls though. He’s no John Kennedy, as Lloyd Bentsen would say. Not worth the 10m-12m a year clearly, when you compare him to any minor leaguer.

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
3:03 pm

Braves have allowed Gonzalez to settle down. I believe the answer to the trivia question is Ron Gant in 1992.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
3:03 pm

if the Braves lose this game it will be mainly due to defense, rarely have we been a bad defensive team, but games 1 and 3 have been pretty lousy

Bat Masterson

July 1st, 2012
3:03 pm

5 spot for the Bravos here

LAG

July 1st, 2012
3:03 pm

NickB – “Because he’s slumping now!” That’s the only argument you should expect from here….

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
3:03 pm

@T-Mafia

Good point made in that 256 post

Im telling people this team is like a version of the 1994 expos! they give the braves fits. they own us, They are in the Braves heads like Philly was the last 4 years

nolie

July 1st, 2012
3:03 pm

not really cool using that f-word on a PG blog IMO

ncbravesfan90

July 1st, 2012
3:03 pm

Signing Ben Sheets will not stop Wren’s pursuit of an impact starting pitcher, thats for sure.

Tina

July 1st, 2012
3:04 pm

D.O.B liked your story about what Hudson was going to do about his start today with the heat you forgot to mention an early shower.

another anonymous commenter

July 1st, 2012
3:04 pm

Blow it out your cornhole, nolie…post something pertinent about the game or the team…or STFU

nolie

July 1st, 2012
3:04 pm

he was not slumping when he garnered most of his votes, so that makes no sense at all LAG

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:04 pm

Uggla’s been slumping badly, but so has Infante (who some say should start ASG and should be here in Atlanta)

BA OBP SLG OPS BAbip
.244/.258/.360/.619/.278

ncbravesfan

July 1st, 2012
3:04 pm

“if the Braves lose this game it will be mainly due to defense, rarely have we been a bad defensive team, but games 1 and 3 have been pretty lousy”

if? IF? Seriously?

another anonymous commenter

July 1st, 2012
3:04 pm

ok that’s more like it

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:05 pm

over his last 3 weeks, btw (for Infante)

NickB

July 1st, 2012
3:05 pm

damn ,thought Heyward got that one, btw, looks like the kid has turned the corner as he’s hittin lefties like mad lately

nolie

July 1st, 2012
3:05 pm

right back at you cowardly anonymous commenter

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
3:05 pm

The Braves lack of consistency in their lineup is so maddening. They need to get guys going.

Abandon

July 1st, 2012
3:06 pm

This is what I’m talking about. When people bring up Dan Uggla, they never just say..oh what a great player…its always in relation to others at 2nd base. When Chipper was in his prime as The Guy on the team, you just let the stats speak for themselves. It was not always an addendum comparing him to other 3rd basemen.

And I do like some things about Dan Uggla, and would be fine with him as a complementary piece and if he was at another position.

cheifBOSS

July 1st, 2012
3:06 pm

Who is a better 2nd basemen than Uggla??? Uggla deserves to be on the NL team because he is the best in it!

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:07 pm

nolie is a much better poster than you anonymous commenter

LAG

July 1st, 2012
3:07 pm

nolie – You know that, I know that, and NickB knows that. And we all agree. But let’s ask some of the others, shall we?

nolie

July 1st, 2012
3:07 pm

might be because he is a second baseman, and that was what he was elected as? just a thought….

Tina

July 1st, 2012
3:07 pm

NL allstars should have Wright at third and Phillips at second. Uggla will out two times in that game.

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
3:07 pm

I was about say that I feel Hudson will be unable to pitch past the 6th inning.

TNScott

July 1st, 2012
3:07 pm

Time to get Huddy out.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
3:07 pm

I’m sick of pointing out the lame arguments and lack of evidence people use to rationalize their misguided Uggla hate, you wanna hate him? Fine, just now that the rest of us think you are an idiot

The A Bomb

July 1st, 2012
3:08 pm

That sigh was the sign language edition of I AM DONE.

Hmmmm

July 1st, 2012
3:08 pm

Gio could show Strasburg a thing or two about dealing with heat, triple digits and the guy is going out and dealing like it’s just another start

ncbravesfan

July 1st, 2012
3:09 pm

“I was about say that I feel Hudson will be unable to pitch past the 6th inning.”

Looks to me like Tim was “unable to pitch” all day today

cheifBOSS

July 1st, 2012
3:09 pm

I’m done with this game! Time to watch Italy vs Spain!!!

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
3:09 pm

@Chiefboss

Uggla gets the hate because he makes 15 mill

Where is Jerry BTW? LOL

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:10 pm

Don Sutton- That ball bounces away from McCann…. LOL. Mac is so bad Don calls him out for passed balls

nolie

July 1st, 2012
3:10 pm

Phillips is having a good year no doubt

njbraves

July 1st, 2012
3:10 pm

Comedy of errors continues.

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:10 pm

The A Bomb

July 1st, 2012
3:10 pm

That was terrific hustle recovery by Freeman to get that out.

ncbravesfan90

July 1st, 2012
3:10 pm

The Braves just don’t have the personel to compete with the Nationals right now, that’s harsh, but its very true.

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
3:11 pm

Yeah that Hudson sure showed up in a semi big game. Huh, hasn’t he scuffled in big games for us in the recent past? Sure he has. And it wasn’t 110 degrees on the field in those games, so that cant be an excuse.

He is no Smoltz, Glavine or Maddux. I even recall young Avery throwing some good big games for us and he was a bottom rotation guy.

Yeah, keep thinking he fits the bill as your number 1 guy the rest of the season going for a playoff run. You in a damn fantasy play world.

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
3:11 pm

I Just Turned It off!

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
3:11 pm

Why does the Braves defense always suck against the Nationals? My goodness, the Braves are terrible in the National League East. I seriously feel like this is 2006 the way this team plays.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:11 pm

It was a wild pitch!

Yogi Berra

July 1st, 2012
3:11 pm

Nolie is a good ole fart..he’s been around along time and I hope he’s around alot longer. You just got to understand his humor. He is a great fan.

TNScott

July 1st, 2012
3:12 pm

Only- Even when McCann is on the bench. LOL

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
3:13 pm

Well said CTB in that 311 post abt Huddy

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:13 pm

And btw, that’s Ross catching

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
3:13 pm

The Braves are 7th in the league in wild pitches.

Ted

July 1st, 2012
3:13 pm

Don’t confuse valid criticism with hate. No one I know hates Uggla as a person or due to anything he did. We just expect a little more for someone being paid over $75K for each and every game.

Abandon

July 1st, 2012
3:14 pm

I submit that Juan Francisco, if given similar amount of ABs would have similar stats as Dan Uggla and be about as good defensively at 2nd base

Hey, if u think Im an idiot, I might as well go “all in”.

Ralph

July 1st, 2012
3:14 pm

You people want to love on Uggla, fine, but give me a good 280 singles hitter than can move runners, play solid defense any day.

nolie

July 1st, 2012
3:14 pm

I really like the Sheets signing. might never amount to anything, but costs next to nothing and might be a lightning in a bottle kinda thingy

The A Bomb

July 1st, 2012
3:14 pm

“By the end of the season, we will be known for our pitching.”

nolie

July 1st, 2012
3:15 pm

“all in” it was there fer shur

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
3:15 pm

ChattTownBrian

I see your point, but Hudson showed up to pitch on the final day of the 2010 regular season against the Phillies in a game the Braves needed to win, and pitched well on the final day of the 2011 season, but the bullpen squandered the lead away.

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:15 pm

Only- Even when McCann is on the bench. LOL

And btw, that’s Ross catching

I know! That’s why it was so funny.

Still time to come back, if we can get Gio out. Need to beat the Nats, our home record and NL east record will continue to fall.

Hmmmm

July 1st, 2012
3:15 pm

“Don Sutton- That ball bounces away from McCann”

maybe it’s time Sutton got out of broadcasting …. doesn’t even know Braves current lineup

LakeDawg

July 1st, 2012
3:16 pm

Man! The Braves surely do suck.

ncbravesfan

July 1st, 2012
3:16 pm

Scary thought, A Bomb. Outside of Kimbrel and maybe, Hanson, we really don’t have anyone who’s dependable on the mound.

LakeDawg

July 1st, 2012
3:17 pm

Infante is a better player than Uggla.

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
3:17 pm

Scary to me that it seems apparant the Braves feel just like Lew in that Hudson is a true #1, no questions asked. I haven’t seen this from Huddy.

Is it just me or what? Nobody seems to be backing me on this.

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
3:17 pm

@Anonymous

OUCH at that 3:04 Post! You caught him with the Uppercut on that, Dismissed!

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
3:17 pm

So Sutton, who’s responsible for giving 3+ hours of unscripted dialogue, should quit because he accidentally said the wrong catcher. Got it.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
3:17 pm

Ralph

a good .280 singles hitter would not have as much value as a guy who hits home runs, Uggla is 9th in 2nd base defense in MLB this year too.

batting avg is pretty much a worthless gauge for offensive value, so is “small ball” it’s a terrible way to score runs.

the proof? the top run scoring teams EVERY YEAR IN MLB HISTORY are in the top 5 in OBP and SLG% . you get on base, you hit for extra bases, you score runs, it’s that simple

Ted

July 1st, 2012
3:18 pm

I am afraid we don’t have the personnel in the front office – not just on the field – to compete with the Nationals. I think Davey Johnson has a higher baseball IQ than our entire coaching staff and Wren thrown together.

LakeDawg

July 1st, 2012
3:18 pm

Huddy is a good pitcher. He’s not an ace. Pedestrian stuff. If his location is off, he gets hammered.

The A Bomb

July 1st, 2012
3:18 pm

And I had to laugh at Wren talking about how “we’re experts on assessing elbow surgery.”

Maybe Dr. Andrews ought to change his incision to the script A or the tomahawk.

Hmmmm

July 1st, 2012
3:18 pm

“Outside of Kimbrel and maybe, Hanson, we really don’t have anyone who’s dependable on the mound”

imo when beachy went down they lost their ace … they don’t have one right now

ncbravesfan

July 1st, 2012
3:18 pm

“Still time to come back, if we can get Gio out. Need to beat the Nats, our home record and NL east record will continue to fall.”

Not happening. The boys at the AJC can go ahead and mark the Bravos down at 41-37 4 1/2 back in the standings.

And as if that’s not bad enough, the Cubs are coming to town to take at least two against our lackluster boys

Ralph

July 1st, 2012
3:19 pm

Abandon
July 1st, 2012
3:14 pm

I submit that Juan Francisco, if given similar amount of ABs would have similar stats as Dan Uggla and be about as good defensively at 2nd base

Uggly has 1 HR every 24.36 ABs, Franscisco has 1 for every 22.2 at bats.

Abandon

July 1st, 2012
3:19 pm

Come on Danny..lets start a rally..I still have hope. We scored 7 yesterday so who knows. Maybe the Braves don’t win, but I just hope they dont lay down like dogs

TNScott

July 1st, 2012
3:19 pm

Nolie- Unfortunately, with Liberty Media, this is what we’re reduced to when it comes to improving our rotation as far as help from outside the organization is concerned.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:19 pm

I don’t suppose quoting (or paraphrasing) Cher to Nicholas Cage in “Moonstruck” would work here, but Danny – “Snap out of it!”

Yogi Berra

July 1st, 2012
3:19 pm

Hmmmmm, its called habit. Don from seeing MaC behind plate also because MaC misses alot.

Wow

July 1st, 2012
3:19 pm

Good grief, Uggla sucks. It’s embarrassing that he’s starting the AS game.

Ted

July 1st, 2012
3:19 pm

If our team were as good as our baseball announcers, we would be a fine team.

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
3:19 pm

The Braves need to make Gonzalez pay for that leadoff walk, but with Uggla up and men on base, it is unlikely to happen.

Mark

July 1st, 2012
3:20 pm

For the life of me I can’t understand why anyone defends Uggla and really believes he is deserving of the all-star game.

Brandon Phillips is hitting .288 with 11 HR, 46 rbi and has only struck out 34 times.

Omar Infante is hitting .289 with 7 HR, 27 rbi and he isn;t in a power slot, 35 Ks.

Uggla – .235, 11 HR, 51 rbis usually in the 4 spot, and 90 Ks several of those with runners on base.

Uggla has walked 51 times as opposed to Phillips 16 and Infantes 9. Maybe thats the big deal for some people drawing walks!

Also, maybe the high walks are a result of Uggla taking so many 3rd strike calls hoping for a freakin walk!

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:20 pm

Scary to me that it seems apparant the Braves feel just like Lew in that Hudson is a true #1, no questions asked. I haven’t seen this from Huddy.

He is our #1, but I see him as a low end #1, but a good #2 pitcher. His numbers are good, but not exceptional to be dominant.

Let’s go Uggs.

bravesgrl4life

July 1st, 2012
3:20 pm

I’m hungry but an Uggla tater would satisfy me well right now.

Tina

July 1st, 2012
3:20 pm

Uggla costs Prado being an allstar. Freddi manages like Cox young pitchers get pull early. A Braves game started at 12:35 was over at 12:45. The nats will take us every series this year because there that much better. Got go Got watch Uggla strike out.

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
3:20 pm

@CTB

I’ll cosign on that post, Now its Imperative that The Braves go 7-2 against the AAA Iowa Cubs and The Scuffling Phillies

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:20 pm

Uggla raises that OBP again…. better than Infante. ;)

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:20 pm

A walk is just fine there

bravesgrl4life

July 1st, 2012
3:21 pm

Or, I guess I can take a walk, too. Okay, it’s really time to get it going.

Hmmmm

July 1st, 2012
3:21 pm

“its called habit”

maybe

Mitchell

July 1st, 2012
3:21 pm

6-1?

Really?

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
3:21 pm

Good grief, Uggla sucks. It’s embarrassing that he’s starting the AS game.

I know! Forget that he juts got a walk, he swung and missed earlier!!

SNEAKY PETE

July 1st, 2012
3:22 pm

A Tomahawkin post? I thought he was banned again? The boy must have sneaked back on.
Oh well, blog is already crap, so he can’t make it too much worse

JipWiz

July 1st, 2012
3:22 pm

This looks like a team with little motivation. Pitching coach hides, manager never gets tossed, players are playing horrible D.
There was a time (#6) when a manager had respect and could send a message. Not this year…this team has lost its way and it’s manager doesn’t know how to right the ship…but he has the cap tipping down cold. Sad to say, no lonnger a believer in this teams direction. Shake it up over the AS break, new manager is needed…NOW

Evidence? Just look at the Nats coaching staff. 6-1 lead, pitching coach has made multiple visits. With a lead!! Our staff, nah…too hot.

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
3:22 pm

Check that

I meant to say that we must go 5-2 against the Cubs and Phillies

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:22 pm

So Sutton, who’s responsible for giving 3+ hours of unscripted dialogue, should quit because he accidentally said the wrong catcher. Got it

Me too :) …. though he has “messed up” on air before. I still like him, no need for him to quit. Better than Chip Caray…

Bill

July 1st, 2012
3:22 pm

Agree with Yogi on Nolie.

Ralph

July 1st, 2012
3:22 pm

One more point I would like to make about Uggla is if I bad mouth him often enough and loud enough the will come out of his slump, if I don’t he will stay in it the entire year, which he may well do anyway.

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:23 pm

Let’s go Freddie *clap clap clap clap clap*

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:23 pm

GONE!!!!! WTG FREDDIE

The A Bomb

July 1st, 2012
3:23 pm

FREDERICK OF HOLLYWOOD!

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:23 pm

FREDDIEEEEEEEE!!!!!

TNScott

July 1st, 2012
3:23 pm

FREDDIE!!!!!

cabravesfan

July 1st, 2012
3:23 pm

FREDDIEEEEEEEEEE!!!

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
3:23 pm

There we go.

BFChris27

July 1st, 2012
3:24 pm

Freeeeeeeman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

bravesgrl4life

July 1st, 2012
3:24 pm

FAB 5 FREDDIE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NickB

July 1st, 2012
3:24 pm

yeah Uggla getting on base sucks………..

bite me ya retards

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
3:24 pm

hm….it’s almost as if it’s stupid to overreact and call a game over early.

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:24 pm

right back in this one boys….. Gio is done, and playing for the homer worked this time.

nolie

July 1st, 2012
3:24 pm

awesome FF !!!

Ted

July 1st, 2012
3:24 pm

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
3:24 pm

@Sticky Pete

Who In The F… Are You?

Sopheee

July 1st, 2012
3:24 pm

Go ahead, fabulous Freddie.

JipWiz

July 1st, 2012
3:24 pm

I still stand by my statement. ASB needs to make some moves….mainly new manager.

B_F 54

July 1st, 2012
3:24 pm

Freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedie!!!

ncbravesfan

July 1st, 2012
3:25 pm

Not happening, Tomahawkin. The Braves will more than likely struggle in those 7 games and go 4-3 or 3-4. It’s been that way all year, why change now?

bravesgrl4life

July 1st, 2012
3:25 pm

Yogi and Bill, nolie is a veteran blogger on this deal. I don’t recall you two being on here nearly as long. Get off the elder’s back!

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

July 1st, 2012
3:25 pm

Waytago, Freeman!!

Mitchell

July 1st, 2012
3:25 pm

Okay, 6-4.

Better.

The A Bomb

July 1st, 2012
3:25 pm

Gonzalez just experienced a Weavergasm. Good for him.

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:25 pm

guess that stadium cheer from me worked… gotta use it on Dan next

Mark

July 1st, 2012
3:26 pm

NickB

Ugglas only hit since our last debate has been a groundball double. I left it at “I hope he proves me wrong” but its not looking good!

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

July 1st, 2012
3:26 pm

Hey, didn’t see BMac in the dugout!…The heck?…

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
3:26 pm

Nice to see Tomahawkin’ back on the blog. Maybe the Braves will turn this game around now that he is here.

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
3:26 pm

6-4 Now, at least we are trying to mount a comeback!

WTG Fab 5 Freddie

David O'Brien

July 1st, 2012
3:26 pm

With one swing, Freeman turns 6-1 deficit into 6-4 and the Braves are back in it. Gio G. is out, Stammen in

JipWiz

July 1st, 2012
3:26 pm

Moral victory, doesn’t cut it. 6-4 loss is still a loss

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:27 pm

yeah Uggla getting on base sucks………..

bite me ya retards

And so does Chippers…. a solo homer would’ve have been much better

Bravefaninok

July 1st, 2012
3:27 pm

nolie

July 1st, 2012
3:27 pm

is if I bad mouth him often enough and loud enough the will come out of his slump…Ralph

well why didn’t you say so in the first place Ralph, I had no idea that you were just contributing a public service… thanx ;)

ncbravesfan

July 1st, 2012
3:28 pm

Well put, JipWiz.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
3:28 pm

Mark

and he just scored a run by being patient at the plate

so in the last 2 games he has 2 rbi’s and a run scored, that’s productive

cabravesfan

July 1st, 2012
3:28 pm

Moral victory, doesn’t cut it. 6-4 loss is still a loss

So why don’t you wait until the game is actually over before you start lamenting a loss?

JipWiz

July 1st, 2012
3:29 pm

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
3:29 pm

So ncbravesfan = JipWiz, right?

Bravefaninok

July 1st, 2012
3:29 pm

SO to Tomahawkin…good to see ya on the blog man!

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:29 pm

Moral victory, doesn’t cut it. 6-4 loss is still a loss

Game isn’t over yet. Easier to come back from a 2 run deficit than a 5 run deficit.

Braves/Heat 2012 Champs

July 1st, 2012
3:29 pm

If Chipper loses vote to Bryce Harper it will be blasphemy. Blasphemy I tell you!

NickB

July 1st, 2012
3:30 pm

getting on base is the most important thing a batter can do, be it by single or by walk, the most preferable way to get on base is to hit a HR, then a triple, then a double, then a single, then a walk… but all are important and all contribute to offensive production.

btw, a Rossy HR here would be nice

Ralph

July 1st, 2012
3:30 pm

Thats always the way it works, when I really get on someone they always prove me wrong and then I love it.

SNEAKY PETE

July 1st, 2012
3:30 pm

why I am your biggest fan Tommyhackin. I know you don’t mean to be but you are one of the funniest peeps on here.

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
3:30 pm

Does every Nats pitcher have a microscopic ERA?

Mark

July 1st, 2012
3:31 pm

Hey again NickB

Guess you have a point if thats what you want in a 4 hitter. Better results than when he swings thats for sure.

ncbravesfan

July 1st, 2012
3:31 pm

Easier to win games when you’re not consistently down by 4 or 5 runs, too.

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:31 pm

a boatload of idiots here today…

Yogi Berra

July 1st, 2012
3:31 pm

What the hell you talking about? “bravesgirl4life”
What I said about Nolie was good. I’ve been read his blogs for years and asked about him many times while he was sick. So whats your problem.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
3:31 pm

why the mental freak outs about losses anyway? THIS ISN’T FOOTBALL!!! the best team is going to lose 60 games…… losing is part of baseball, if you can’t handle that, perhaps you should stick to bud light and Bulldogs games…… hillbillies

nolie

July 1st, 2012
3:31 pm

well at least we made a decent comeback again. Washington is a tough team

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:31 pm

Juan Francisco up to bat. Watch a strikeout here.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
3:32 pm

I have always thought Uggla was a prototypical number 5 hitter

NickB

July 1st, 2012
3:33 pm

if they could teach Francisco to be a bit more patient, he could be a real force, that’s why I think he’s not really cut out for a bench bat, much better off starting at 3rd for a non-contender where he coul develop with more AB’s

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:33 pm

3 pitches, and a K. What did I tell you.

JipWiz

July 1st, 2012
3:33 pm

Jeffreyd
Just tired of having a team with TONS of potential, little results. That is a product of poor management. Look, FG is a great baseball guy, just not the type of guy needed here, he could not develop a consistent winner in the Marlins…who were just as talented as Braves. Just not his team, lots of 6-4 losses, almost got me, put some wins together soon. We need to be trending up…FG has us flat lining, satisfied with almosts and maybe tomorrows.

TuffShhhtuff

July 1st, 2012
3:34 pm

Sans Francisco!

The A Bomb

July 1st, 2012
3:34 pm

His cold zone is ridiculous. You can drive a car through the hole in his swing.

Hoover would have been a great trade piece.

bravesgrl4life

July 1st, 2012
3:34 pm

Thanks, Juan, for that freebie out you just gave them. :roll:

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
3:34 pm

Francisco’s at bats are beyond terrible. Stammen threw one pitch in the strike zone and earned himself a K.

TBbravesfan

July 1st, 2012
3:34 pm

go fatcisco in the dirt

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
3:34 pm

Anyone else still getting crappy reception?

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:35 pm

I have always thought Uggla was a prototypical number 5 hitter

Stats below. He doesn’t do best in the 5 hole (where he does have quite a few ABs) Best spots are #2 and #4

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=ugglada01&year=Career&t=b#lineu

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
3:36 pm

They could use a better bat off the bench then the ones they currently have. All of them are out machines.

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:36 pm

Hoover would have been a great trade piece.

This. We could’ve gotten Francisco on waivers if we really wanted him. The guy is practically worthless right now.

Francisco’s at bats are beyond terrible. Stammen threw one pitch in the strike zone and earned himself a K.

Sad

Ralph

July 1st, 2012
3:37 pm

TheOnlyBravesFan
July 1st, 2012
3:31 pm

And your the captain of the ship.

ncbravesfan

July 1st, 2012
3:37 pm

“FG has us flat lining, satisfied with almosts and maybe tomorrows”

Exactly. I can already hear his “well I’m proud that the boys got back in the game” postgame speech. Sooner or later, you have to actually start winning games and not being satisfied with moral victories.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
3:37 pm

hmmmm, that could be misleading, was he dropped down to 5th during slumps?

I have always found it odd when certain players hit differently in different spots in the order, the job is the same, get on base, hit for power

nolie

July 1st, 2012
3:38 pm

yes unfortunately no patience, poor pitch recognition and several huge holes in his swing. I’m not sure how anybody thinks he has promise as a major leaguer, but in baseball nothing is impossible I guess.

Mark

July 1st, 2012
3:38 pm

One of the Uggla lovers explain to me why he should be viewed as better than Phillips – .288, 10 HR, 46 rbi and only 34 Ks when Uggla is .235, 11 HR, 91 Ks and 51 rbi. Infante is .289, 7 HR, only 35 Ks.

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
3:38 pm

It seems like the Braves have figured out Bryce Harper.

Yogi Berra

July 1st, 2012
3:38 pm

bravesgil4life.. go back and read @ 3:11. Some women !!!

richbrave

July 1st, 2012
3:39 pm

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
3:39 pm

S/O To BraveFanInOk

Whats Happening Chief

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:40 pm

Oh, and Dan’s career line for the month of June…. must struggle alot in June

.236 .327 .469 .796

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
3:41 pm

@ncBravesfan

We should have no problem going 5-2 against the AAA Iowa Cubs and the Scuffling Phillies

No Excuse if we go 3-4

The A Bomb

July 1st, 2012
3:41 pm

Why is it our bench has no HITTERS?

I mean guys who can hit singles, doubles in key situations/

All we have on the bench, it seems is Rob Deers (and Rafael Belliard).

nolie

July 1st, 2012
3:43 pm

Uggla makes fewer outs than Phillips, and outs are the most precious comodity in baseball

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:43 pm

The Nats got Morse for Langerhans?! I liked Ryan while he was here, but what a trade by the Nats! Geez.

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
3:43 pm

Yet another hitter reaches after two quick outs were made. The Braves pitchers must really struggle with their concentration after two outs are made.

richbrave

July 1st, 2012
3:43 pm

TheOnlyBravesFan
July 1st, 2012
3:36 pm

Hoover would have been a great trade piece.

This. We could’ve gotten Francisco on waivers if we really wanted him. The guy is practically worthless right now.

Francisco’s at bats are beyond terrible. Stammen threw one pitch in the strike zone and earned himself a K.

Sad….”

Too many moving parts in that swing. If he hasn’t learned to be still and simplify that swing by now, he prolly never will. Talent can get you to the bigs, but solid mechanics, and brains keep you there.

ncbravesfan

July 1st, 2012
3:43 pm

The same Cubs and Phillies that we are 2-4 against this year? Sure, it’ll be a walk in the park to go 5-2.

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
3:44 pm

Tomahawkin

You know the upcoming stretch of games will be a huge struggle for the Braves.

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
3:44 pm

@The ABomb

It seems like opposing pitchers hit better against us as opposed out Pinch hitters hitting against opposing pitchers?

The A Bomb

July 1st, 2012
3:44 pm

REMEMBER FOLKS: Tomorrow is MONDAY.

TNScott

July 1st, 2012
3:45 pm

That was too close.

nolie

July 1st, 2012
3:45 pm

Vv done good

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
3:45 pm

Hey, it’s Timothy Miller!

NickB

July 1st, 2012
3:45 pm

Mark

because before the slump when the majority of the votes were tallied these were their comparitive numbrs

Uggla- Mar/Apr- .271/.364/.424 3 hR’s ,15 rbis ,16 runs

May- .265/.394/.480 5 HR’s. ,16 rbis, 20 runs

Phillips- Mar/Apr .254/.302/.407 , 2 HR’s, 7 rbi’s, 9 runs

May- .283/.333./415 , 3 HR’s, 18 RBI’s, 17 runs

so you see, Phillips has been better than uggla for June, but Uggla has been better for the prior 9 weeks

bravesgrl4life

July 1st, 2012
3:45 pm

Love hearing Timothy Miller sing God Bless America!

Trey

July 1st, 2012
3:46 pm

Glad to see them enjoying the game.

nolie

July 1st, 2012
3:46 pm

well the votes cast B4 the day of the pick obviously shouldn’t counted…..

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:46 pm

I love that guy’s voice!

ncbravesfan

July 1st, 2012
3:47 pm

“REMEMBER FOLKS: Tomorrow is MONDAY.”

Can we say 41-38, 5 games back?

ncbravesfan90

July 1st, 2012
3:47 pm

Excellent job as usual Timothy Miller! God Bless America!!!!!!

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
3:48 pm

The Braves need to put something together in the 7th with their better players at the plate.

Capt.Mudd

July 1st, 2012
3:49 pm

Excellent rendition of God Bless America!

David O'Brien

July 1st, 2012
3:50 pm

Forgot to give you Hudson’s line: 6 IP, 8 H, 6 R (5 ER), 2 walks, four strikeouts. 60 strikes in 87 pitches.

bravesgrl4life

July 1st, 2012
3:50 pm

Bourn gets the Silver Sombrero today.

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

July 1st, 2012
3:50 pm

Have they even mentioned that Kimbrel made the All-Star team? I mean, they barely pointed out that Uggla made it, Joe went on a tirade about why it shouldn’t be a game that “counts” (which I have to say, I agree with), they told us all the gNats that made it, but that’s been it, I think…

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
3:50 pm

Bourn either has a day with multiple hits or a bad day where he strikes out three times, rarely is there any middle ground. The guy really needs to be more patient at the plate.

Mark

July 1st, 2012
3:50 pm

NickB

Different spots in the order call for different things. Thats why WAR is not good in my opinion. This is a short summary of a lineup.

1. Be able to take pitches, run the bases well, hopefully have speed, strike out rarely, Table setter,
example: Henderson who you would have absolutely loved b/c he walked a lot and hit for power but he got on base a lot, could steal bases
2. Great contact, can bunt, hit and run, put the ball in play. Hit behind runners. Example: Gwynn – Swung and missed rarely.
3. Best hitter – period – Example: Kemp, Aaron, Bonds(even before steroids)…
4. Drive in runs, power. Example – Howardand other big boppers
5. Another 4 just not quite as good usually as the 4.
6 and 7 . The best you got behind the 4 and 5 guys.
8. 2nd leadoff type guy. Hopefully he can get on and run the bases well so pitchers can bunt him over for top of the order.

This is just a summary but a start for someone that doesn’t understand the differences.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
3:51 pm

Has anyone ever noticed how rarely leadoff hitters have excellent OBP’s?

should be the number one priority IMO, but if you take a look, not many have one over .350

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:51 pm

Yeah, Marteeen!!

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
3:51 pm

3 K’s is a hat trick

Bravefaninok

July 1st, 2012
3:51 pm

Teeeeeeeeeeen

bravesgrl4life

July 1st, 2012
3:51 pm

Capt.Mudd

July 1st, 2012
3:51 pm

Prado….really great pro

Yogi Berra

July 1st, 2012
3:51 pm

Good job Prado.. now lets score some runs.

bravesgrl4life

July 1st, 2012
3:52 pm

LAG

July 1st, 2012
3:52 pm

I think the old guys would say of Prado that “his motor’s always running.”

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

July 1st, 2012
3:52 pm

What’s really a shame is my Butterfinger Bites are gone…

cabravesfan

July 1st, 2012
3:53 pm

What’s really a shame is my Butterfinger Bites are gone…

So is my pasta salad :( (and I’m still hungry)

NickB

July 1st, 2012
3:53 pm

Mark

that’s a stupid and outdated idea, hitters should always try to get on base and hit for extra bases, having a different mentality in different spots in the order makes the the assumption that these designated spots ALWAYS face similar situations when they obviously do not. Hitters goal’s should not change based on their assigned order of hitting

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:54 pm

Just missed that, I think

Jerry

July 1st, 2012
3:54 pm

All I can say is, thank you fans for dropping the ball and electing Uggla for the all star game. Another reason why the vote should be taken out of the fans hands And Prado and Bourn sit home. Just great.

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
3:54 pm

At least he moved the runner over.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:54 pm

Disgusted

July 1st, 2012
3:54 pm

Timothy Miller is not a good singer at all.

He is a “GREAT GREAT” singer. Atlantans should be proud to call him one if their own.

LAG

July 1st, 2012
3:55 pm

MIBravesFan – Sure looked like it.

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
3:55 pm

That was the Braves last chance.

ncbravesfan90

July 1st, 2012
3:55 pm

Played AB baseball there, just couldn’t get the C.

The A Bomb

July 1st, 2012
3:55 pm

Hard not to appreciate Zimmerman. He’s really fixed himself.

Mitchell

July 1st, 2012
3:55 pm

Why… does he always do that?

bravesgrl4life

July 1st, 2012
3:55 pm

bravesgrl4life

July 1st, 2012
3:55 pm

Uh, LAG, last I saw, we still have 2 innings to play.

TuffShhhtuff

July 1st, 2012
3:56 pm

I think the ladies talking about food while the Braves were batting jinxed them. That’s a “no-no”!

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
3:56 pm

Hard not to appreciate Zimmerman. He’s really fixed himself.

Ouch!

NickB

July 1st, 2012
3:56 pm

one of the bad results of Heywards recent move to hitting more up the middle is that his long fly balls are heading to the deepest parts of the park now

ncbravesfan90

July 1st, 2012
3:56 pm

Yankees acquired RHP Chad Qualls from the Phillies for a player to be named later or cash.

Mark

July 1st, 2012
3:57 pm

Nick

It may be outdated in some peoples mind but your logic and those like you have been tainted by the Steroid, sit back and wait on a HR way of thinking. The Braves are guilty of that. I think thats why we strike out so much and leave so many runners on base also.

The A Bomb

July 1st, 2012
3:57 pm

Throwing jeffrey d. Throwing.

Disgusted

July 1st, 2012
3:57 pm

I have been saying that for years Jerry about the fans voting for the All-Star game.

And in baseball, the game means something. Not like the other sports.

The Pro Bowl is the biggest joke though.

The NHL All-Star game is one where hitting goes on strike.

I do like the NBA ASG out of all of them, its the most entertaining. And its still just an exhibition.

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

July 1st, 2012
3:57 pm

cabravesfan So is my pasta salad

Oh, that REALLY stinks. Pasta salads rule…

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
3:57 pm

I disagree with the decision to extend Varvaro an extra inning. He is a one-inning guy and he did his job well in the 7th inning.

Capt.Mudd

July 1st, 2012
3:57 pm

@McFann…re: 3:50 pm post: I haven’t heard a mention of Kimbrel either. If I had to guess, they are saving that for the ninth when odds are he’ll get a chance–certainly one would expect a mention at that time. Regardless, they should advise fans of all Braves selected…..and, what about the producer? He whispers in their ear occasionally too!

Disgusted

July 1st, 2012
3:58 pm

The Phillies taking some baby seller steps.

Moving Thome and Qualls are not the bid deal, I do not know if they are thinking about moving one of the real core players.

richbrave

July 1st, 2012
3:58 pm

DOWN ON THE FARM

MISSISSIPPI

CHATTANOOGA LOOKOUTS once again best the Bandits 8-5 last night.

Lead-off 2B/LF PHILLIP GOSSELIN [.256 BA] 1-4, 1 R, 1 RBI [25], 1BB.

RF KEENAN WILEY [.273 BA] 1-4, 1 R, 1 RBI [20], 1 BB, 1 SO.

1B IAN GAC [.250 BA] 1-3, 1 2B [23].1 SO.

C CHRISTIAN BETHANCOURT [.257 BA] 1-4, 1 3B [1], 3 RBI [14], 2 SO.

SS GREG PAIML [.164 BA] 1-3, 1 R.

LHSP SEAN GILMARTIN [3.64 ERA] 6.0 IP, 7 H, 1 HR, 4 R/ER, 2 BB, 4 SO.

LHRP RYAN BUCHTER [1.27 ERA] 1.0 IP, 1 H, zeros, 1 SO.

RYAN developing nicely, and have a solid year in relief.

RHRP CORY RASMUS [BS 3, L 1-3, 4.26 ERA] 0.1 IP, 3 H, 4 R/ER, 3 BB, 0 SO.

CORY headed in the opposite direction from BUCHTER.

RHRP MARK LAMM [2.81 ERSA] 1.2 IP, 1 H, zeros 1 SO.

MARK having an uneaven year. Needs to be more consistant. Still, he will probably see AAA next season.

cabravesfan

July 1st, 2012
3:58 pm

McFann-

It was really good- home made…

Not nearly enough for lunch though…should really eat more…

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
3:59 pm

Throwing jeffrey d. Throwing.

Ah. ;)

usnavyvolfaninva

July 1st, 2012
3:59 pm

Well, clearly the Nationals are the best team in the NL East, and it’s not hard to see why. I really don’t see how the Braves can overcome their shortcomings, but I’ll just say I’m awfully glad there’s two Wildcards spots instead of just one, now.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
4:00 pm

Mark

nope, my numbers are backed up by every high scoring team in the history of the live ball era (post 1920) every team that lead their league in runs scored got on base and hit for extra bases, this moving the runners along stuff is wasteful and a horrible way to score a lot of runs.

Outs are the currency of baseball, and runs are the product, the less outs you spend per run, the more you score and the better your offense will do

cabravesfan

July 1st, 2012
4:00 pm

Disgusted-

Phillies are said to be asking around about interest in Hamels, but the price is looking like 4-5 prospects, including probably 2 high level ones…

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
4:00 pm

all that talk about food made me remember that I was hungry… A (late) lunch feast is coming up!

richbrave

July 1st, 2012
4:00 pm

Has there been a victory on a Monday this season?

Disgusted

July 1st, 2012
4:00 pm

Hudson sucked today. Lousy game giving up 6 R, 5 ER. Not good enough.

Lousy first inning, got the Braves into an immediate hole.

Yogi Berra

July 1st, 2012
4:01 pm

Giants fans got out the vote..joke!
Some others don’t deserve it. Agree disgusted.

Mark

July 1st, 2012
4:01 pm

Yeah thats a real problem for Heyward! Quit worring about the good results of letting the ball get deep and use the whole field. He should take a page out of Uggla and McCanns book and pull everything when you do hit it!!!!!!!!!!!!

That way we can all hit .230

Unreal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
4:01 pm

Phillies are said to be asking around about interest in Hamels, but the price is looking like 4-5 prospects, including probably 2 high level ones…

Phillies are crazy. No way can any GM agree to that. No draft compensation, it’d be stupid.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
4:01 pm

Start R.A. Dickey in the AS Game – that pitch should mess the AL lineup for the entire game! :)

ncbravesfan

July 1st, 2012
4:01 pm

“but I’ll just say I’m awfully glad there’s two Wildcards spots instead of just one, now.”

So the Braves can add to their legacy of postseason failures? This team won’t survive a one-game playoff. Not with Goofy at the helm.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
4:02 pm

Good job, Varvaro!

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
4:02 pm

S/O’s To Trey, Jerry, and LAG

The A Bomb

July 1st, 2012
4:02 pm

I’ll really respect some of these posts when most of the bloggers rename themselves CAPTAIN OBVIOUS.

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
4:02 pm

Varvaro has really pitched well in his last few appearances.

LAG

July 1st, 2012
4:02 pm

bravesgrl4life – Uh, LAG, last I saw, we still have 2 innings to play.

I responded to him saying “Just missed that, I think” regarding Heyward’s flyout to the track in CF.

richbrave

July 1st, 2012
4:02 pm

We need a first-rate starting pitcher to get over the hump. And I mean a stud. Otherwise, we might limp into the second WC slot.

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
4:02 pm

So the Braves can add to their legacy of postseason failures? This team won’t survive a one-game playoff. ncbravesfan

You might want to change your username

Capt.Mudd

July 1st, 2012
4:03 pm

@Disgusted…..”Pro Bowl is the biggest joke,”………:(

Agree, however it is a money maker for the league and also good marketing strategy. Years ago, participants looked forward to it to bolster compensation as salaries {as you are aware} were much lower.

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
4:03 pm

So the Braves can add to their legacy of postseason failures? This team won’t survive a one-game playoff. Not with Goofy at the helm.

A lot of teams can struggle in a 1-game playoff. That was the stupidest part of what they did with adding the new wild card…

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
4:03 pm

That Bourn error could loom large at the end of this one.

richbrave

July 1st, 2012
4:03 pm

How about the TED, “CAPTAIN OUTRAGEOUS?”

NickB

July 1st, 2012
4:03 pm

I wonder if the Phillies will move Hamels….. I doubt they get enough to make up for the draft picks.

as much as he might help a team, UNLESS he leads them to the WS, he will be an overpay, he isn’t gonna sign an extension and he can’t be offered arb to bring in draft picks , I’d hate to give up a top 5 prospect for a literal rental and lose in the WC game. Whoever picks him up.

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
4:04 pm

richbrave

The Braves need a starter who earn some strike outs.

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
4:04 pm

@Disgusted

Co-Sign on ur rant abt Huddy not showing up

Who would’ve thought heading into the weekend that Money Mike Minor would have a better outing than Huddy?

The A Bomb

July 1st, 2012
4:04 pm

Amaro would be a moron not to deal Hamels now. And Victorino.

richbrave

July 1st, 2012
4:04 pm

Nah, we wipe the GNATS in the ninth and win 7-6. Book it!

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

July 1st, 2012
4:04 pm

They aren’t bringing up how strange it is to not see BMac’s name on the All-Star list…

Capt.Mudd

Finally gave him a shout out… :P

cabravesfan

Homemade is the best… :) And yeah, you prolly should eat more… ;)

DiamondbackMac

July 1st, 2012
4:04 pm

McFann

What’s really a shame is my Butterfinger Bites are gone…

And, I just finished the last of my Reese’s Cups. :(

cabravesfan

July 1st, 2012
4:05 pm

McFann-

But making lunch requires so much energy…

David O'Brien

July 1st, 2012
4:05 pm

Nice having a reliever who can work two strong innings like Stammen just did for Nats.

richbrave

July 1st, 2012
4:05 pm

Tomahawk Mafia
July 1st, 2012
4:04 pm

“….richbrave

The Braves need a starter who earn some strike outs…..”

Yes. That would be nice……for a change!

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

July 1st, 2012
4:05 pm

Also, isn’t the Braves-Fillies game on FOX on Saturday? Good gosh almighty, I may have to rip my ears off every time Ruiz comes up to bat…or breaths…

nolie

July 1st, 2012
4:05 pm

Burnett sure steps across himself

Yogi Berra

July 1st, 2012
4:06 pm

LAG, its not her 1st screw up today.

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
4:06 pm

I Cant stand the Overrated Jeff Samantha of The Cubs! BSPN used to s.ck him off hardcore because he went to Notre Dame

JipWiz

July 1st, 2012
4:06 pm

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
4:06 pm

Homemade is the best… And yeah, you prolly should eat more…

What, cab is underweight? ;)

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
4:06 pm

Uggla is just hopeless.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
4:07 pm

“LAG

July 1st, 2012
4:02 pm
bravesgrl4life – Uh, LAG, last I saw, we still have 2 innings to play.

I responded to him saying “Just missed that, I think” regarding Heyward’s flyout to the track in CF.”

Actually that was “her” saying “Just missed that, I think.” Just for clarification.

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

July 1st, 2012
4:07 pm

DBackMac

Sad… :(

cabravesfan

True that. I mean, really…sometimes I can’t take it…

The A Bomb

July 1st, 2012
4:07 pm

NEW NICKNAME: The U-Turn

cabravesfan

July 1st, 2012
4:07 pm

No, but 1/2 a cup of pasta is not really filling…

NickB

July 1st, 2012
4:07 pm

nolie

yeah, I am surprised he hasn’t had TJ surgery already, that looks like it hurts and has to look odd to hitters

One Big Dummy

July 1st, 2012
4:07 pm

That’s not in the “Managing for Dummies” book, DOB.

TuffShhhtuff

July 1st, 2012
4:08 pm

I reiterate. DO NOT talk about food while the Braves are batting. That is a well-known jinx from long ago.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
4:08 pm

Freeman has officially heated back up

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
4:08 pm

Good job there, Freddie!

Mark

July 1st, 2012
4:08 pm

NickB

Guess Uggla was trying to add to that WAR number by taking a freakin 3 – 1 fastball right down the middle. Of course he made up for it by swinging over, yet again, a changup low and away.

92 Ks and climbing!!!!

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
4:08 pm

Also, isn’t the Braves-Fillies game on FOX on Saturday? Good gosh almighty, I may have to rip my ears off every time Ruiz comes up to bat…or breaths…

Sounds just like Mac! lol

Who makes pasta salad without making it in large quantities, like 3 pounds worth?

Let’s go Simba. I’m hungry for a tater.

Bravefaninok

July 1st, 2012
4:08 pm

Fab5 theres the bloop…..Simba brings the blast!

LAG

July 1st, 2012
4:09 pm

MIBravesFan – Apologies, ma’am. :blush:

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
4:09 pm

I am liking Freeman’s new patient approach at the plate.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
4:09 pm

David O'Brien

July 1st, 2012
4:09 pm

Varvarro did it today, too. The two strong innings. He’s progressed in his appearances, shown promise.

Now Braves have runners on corners with one out, potential tying run at 1st after Simmons single.

TNScott

July 1st, 2012
4:09 pm

cabravesfan

July 1st, 2012
4:09 pm

TheOnlyBravesFan-

Oh, there was a lot of it- had it at my parents house on Friday night…I took some home and had a bit yesterday, and VJ had some before he left for work. I ate the rest, but there was not much left at that point :)

Capt.Mudd

July 1st, 2012
4:09 pm

And Freeman with the “airplane gears!”

bravesgrl4life

July 1st, 2012
4:10 pm

Come on Rossy!

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
4:10 pm

No, but 1/2 a cup of pasta is not really filling…

Of course not…

Let’s Go Bravos! Rossy, show BMac how it’s done. ;)

TBbravesfan

July 1st, 2012
4:10 pm

boy if old uggla could get on once in a while

Tina

July 1st, 2012
4:10 pm

Sure be nice if allstar Uggla could get two hits a game instead of two strikeout .

JipWiz

July 1st, 2012
4:10 pm

Love how Diaz just hit his gum with the bat. Solid

Chris from the Rock

July 1st, 2012
4:11 pm

It seems like forever since the Braves forced a blown save in the 8th or 9th inning. They are due for a late rally.

Mitchell

July 1st, 2012
4:11 pm

Should be 5-4 if not for Bourn’s retarded play in the first inning.

Trey

July 1st, 2012
4:11 pm

hopefully no double play.

Capt.Mudd

July 1st, 2012
4:11 pm

@cabravesfan….missed you yesterday–Hi, hope CA is cooler than our 100 whatever degrees?

NickB

July 1st, 2012
4:11 pm

Tina

yer pimp called her said shut up and get back on that cawnah

cabravesfan

July 1st, 2012
4:11 pm

Capt-

It’s been lovely here the last week or so…typically 75 with a light breeze :)

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
4:11 pm

ah ok Cab… sounds like it was good.

Let’s go Ross, stay out of the DP…. maybe send Simmons?

Mitchell

July 1st, 2012
4:12 pm

Come on David Ross.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
4:12 pm

how the heck did Ross hit that?

LAG

July 1st, 2012
4:12 pm

cab – Currently 107 here in Athens. I’d ask to trade weather with you, but I don’t really care for 70s in July. :lol:

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
4:13 pm

aargh… that was one nasty pitch.

Lefty killer, do your stuff please.

Mitchell

July 1st, 2012
4:13 pm

Wow. That was terrible.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
4:13 pm

Shoot! Come on Matt!

NickB

July 1st, 2012
4:13 pm

where is the Ross hate Mark? he just struck out too……..

SNEAKY PETE

July 1st, 2012
4:13 pm

haters hate, thats what they do….

ncbravesfan90

July 1st, 2012
4:13 pm

Come on, leave it on your shoe tops, don’t swing at that junk.

cabravesfan

July 1st, 2012
4:13 pm

LAG-

That’s good, because I don’t plan on leaving- I don’t like it that hot all the time

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
4:13 pm

Would have been nice to get the runner in from third with less than two outs.

Jaded Braves Fan

July 1st, 2012
4:13 pm

Nats just seem to be a lot better at making productive outs than we are.

Mark

July 1st, 2012
4:13 pm

Hes not hitting .234

Brava

July 1st, 2012
4:14 pm

Our bench is so pitiful.

JipWiz

July 1st, 2012
4:14 pm

ncbravesfan90

July 1st, 2012
4:14 pm

This ball team cannot play ABC baseball and it has shown this series.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
4:14 pm

njbraves

July 1st, 2012
4:14 pm

Matt Diaz…the lefty killer.

The A Bomb

July 1st, 2012
4:14 pm

The two-fingered typist makes another easy out.

just to let you know

July 1st, 2012
4:14 pm

man diaz really kills those lefthanders…

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
4:14 pm

This team absolutely sucks with men on base in key situations. So frustrating.

bravesgrl4life

July 1st, 2012
4:14 pm

Well, that wasn’t good.

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
4:14 pm

cab – Currently 107 here in Athens. I’d ask to trade weather with you, but I don’t really care for 70s in July

What, I’d take that! I was outside in 100 degree air for an hour, it just about killed me.

And Matty Ds avg. against lefties drops some more… that might have been our best chance to score

TuffShhhtuff

July 1st, 2012
4:14 pm

That’s two rallies killed by those on here talking about food. Can’t say I didn’t warn you the first time.

nolie

July 1st, 2012
4:14 pm

still got one more shot

Mitchell

July 1st, 2012
4:14 pm

I hate to keep using the word embarrassing, but that was embarrassing.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
4:14 pm

tough pitcher there….. I don’t see how anyone can hit off that messed up motion

usnavyvolfaninva

July 1st, 2012
4:15 pm

More LOBs for the Braves.

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
4:15 pm

typical. Ross and Diaz are tops on the team of guys you do NOT want at the plate in a tight spot.

Jerry

July 1st, 2012
4:15 pm

Epic failures are what the Braves are known for now.

smallmouth6

July 1st, 2012
4:15 pm

Braves need a pitcher at trade time and a good bench hitter. Two biggest needs by far.

tmc

July 1st, 2012
4:15 pm

annnnnnd there is your best right handed bat for left handed pitching specialist, Mr. Diaz.

You blow.

nolie

July 1st, 2012
4:16 pm

no you don’t Mitchell, you are thrilled beyond belief when you can claim that the Braves are embarrassing. why lie about it?????????

cabravesfan

July 1st, 2012
4:16 pm

Currently 73 here…high for the week is 75 on Friday :)

ncbravesfan90

July 1st, 2012
4:16 pm

.229
.223
.208
.179
.278

Those are our bench players batting average. Not surprised we are 4.5 games outta first.

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
4:16 pm

Good bench hitters: Ross
Decent: Diaz
Currently bad: Hinske, Wilson, Francisco

We need help/ guys to improve.

Mark

July 1st, 2012
4:16 pm

NickB

He hasn’t done it 90 plus times either

ncbravesfan

July 1st, 2012
4:16 pm

This team’s embarrassing, plain and simple.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
4:16 pm

Braves are 13th in Clutch hitting according to fangraphs……. avg, bout what i thought

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
4:16 pm

I am so sick of losing series at Turner Field and so sick of being creamed by the Nationals. The Braves need to shape up. They have been pathetic since they were so hot in late April.

Mitchell

July 1st, 2012
4:16 pm

Raise your hand if you’d rather have Brooks Conrad back than Matt Diaz.

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
4:17 pm

Thing is the bench is the exact same as it’s been all year. Nothing has changed. Not even an attempt to at least somewhat upgrade the thing. Diaz experiment needs to stop once and for all.

LAG

July 1st, 2012
4:17 pm

This is actually rare for us, to see temps this high for this long.

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
4:17 pm

I’m Praying for Vennie-Macc Here

No, Damn that! I’m blowing in a Bag

Le Fan

July 1st, 2012
4:17 pm

All the braves quotes tomorrow will be how they came back, how they battled after being down four runs…blah,blah,blah….
Theres no such thing as a moral victory guys when u cant beat the team ahead of you

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

July 1st, 2012
4:17 pm

cabravesfan Currently 73 here…high for the week is 75 on Friday

SHOW OFF!!! :evil:

;)

David O'Brien

July 1st, 2012
4:17 pm

Ugly again: 1-for-8 with RISP, 8 LOB (through eight innings)

cabravesfan

July 1st, 2012
4:18 pm

McFann-

Not my fault I live where the weather is perfect ALL THE TIME :D

Trey

July 1st, 2012
4:19 pm

For shame, Venters.

TNScott

July 1st, 2012
4:19 pm

This was on a church sign:

“It’s not hotter than Hell outside.”

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
4:19 pm

Except for the earthquakes

The A Bomb

July 1st, 2012
4:19 pm

Hand raised. Conrad has magic.

Our whole bench is a total cluster. Can’t believe a major league organization has this type of bench. In 2 years, we’ve gone from the BEST bench in baseball to the hands-down WORST. Horrible and embarrassing.

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
4:19 pm

Raise your hand if you’d rather have Brooks Conrad back than Matt Diaz.

Wow.

Mark

July 1st, 2012
4:19 pm

DOB

You could change a couple letters and been accurate as well. Uggla again

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

July 1st, 2012
4:19 pm

I mean, I woulda thought they’d say something about BMac’s not making the team. Not that I want them to dwell on it, but I dunno…they don’t really talk about him much lately…

Mitchell

July 1st, 2012
4:19 pm

nolie

July 1st, 2012
4:16 pm

no you don’t Mitchell, you are thrilled beyond belief when you can claim that the Braves are embarrassing. why lie about it?????????

I’m going to assume that’s a joke.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
4:20 pm

“Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
4:17 pm
I’m Praying for Vennie-Macc Here

No, Damn that! I’m blowing in a Bag”

It has become stressful watching him, hasn’t it? :) Sometimes I put my hand over my eyes and peek at the screen, myself! Good to see you on the blog, Tomahawkin

NickB

July 1st, 2012
4:20 pm

strikeouts don’t matter Mark, they just don’t

top 10 in career K’s

Reggie Jackson
Jim Thome
Sammy Sosa
Andres Galarraga
Alex Rodriguez
Jose Canseco
Willie Stargell
Adam Dunn
Mike Cameron
Mike Schmidt

lots of really crappy players on that list eh?

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

July 1st, 2012
4:20 pm

cabravesfan

yeah, but you don’t hafta be so nasty about it!… ;)

TBbravesfan

July 1st, 2012
4:20 pm

i just don’t get excited anymore with runners on 3rd with less than 2 outs. why is that?

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
4:20 pm

Braves dropped another spot in total runs scored (for entire MLB)

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
4:21 pm

McFann, I really think it’s a “not rubbing salt in a wound” kind of thing.

The A Bomb

July 1st, 2012
4:22 pm

Asleep at the wheel.

TBbravesfan

July 1st, 2012
4:22 pm

what was ross loking at?

NickB

July 1st, 2012
4:22 pm

Venters was squeezed twice on that at bat…..

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
4:22 pm

Unlike cabravesfan and her beautiful temperatures/weather! :)

cabravesfan

July 1st, 2012
4:22 pm

McFann-

Sorry! Was just making conversation :D

Yogi Berra

July 1st, 2012
4:22 pm

Only Braves fan..is that a record 107 in Athens?

Ted

July 1st, 2012
4:22 pm

Venters will save the game for the Nationals.

Jerry

July 1st, 2012
4:23 pm

Uggla hitting .232 and McCann at .226. But those batting averages don’t mean a damn thing, do they apologists? You guys lose your credibility with each passing day.

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
4:23 pm

Venters will make sure no possible chance at a great comeback is in the makings. No way he says.

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
4:23 pm

Roger McDowell has to make an appearance to the mound every time Johnny Venters pitches. Venters needs to find his form quickly. As do everyone else on the Braves pitching staff.

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
4:23 pm

I mean, I woulda thought they’d say something about BMac’s not making the team.

What’s there to say? He didn’t even come close to “earning” it, unfortunately.

ncbravesfan

July 1st, 2012
4:23 pm

One plus is that this helps the Nats. Would much rather see them win the division than the Mets, Phillies, or Marlins.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
4:23 pm

then McClellan calls the same pitch a strike ………..

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
4:24 pm

Vennie-Macc!!!

COME ON

David O'Brien

July 1st, 2012
4:24 pm

Venters walked Harper after being ahead in count 0-2

NickB

July 1st, 2012
4:24 pm

Jerry

go play in traffic with your kids so they don’t pollute the gene pool for the rest of society ya nimrod

bravesgrl4life

July 1st, 2012
4:24 pm

cabravesfan, please don’t rub it in.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
4:24 pm

Jonny . . . .

ncbravesfan90

July 1st, 2012
4:24 pm

Fredi looking good with his managing skills again today.

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
4:24 pm

Venters just sucks so bad. He creates his own jams and then blows the game open.

Trey

July 1st, 2012
4:25 pm

Way to go, Jonny.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
4:25 pm

Venters’ luck on ground balls has been all bad this years

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
4:25 pm

18-19 home

Braves home record. Not pretty.

Not doing good against NL east either.

Another run given up by JV, glad I cut him from my fantasy team :( … those missed scoring oppurtunities hurt us.

Mark

July 1st, 2012
4:25 pm

Nick

Rest assured if Uggla can hang around long enough he’ll join some of those guys in the strikeout category just not the production one because most those guys didn’t hit .235

Mitchell

July 1st, 2012
4:25 pm

Why does this team bother to show up?

Oh wait, they didn’t.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
4:25 pm

If JJ needed to go down to get it worked out, then Jonny has clearly reached that stage, too!! It’s probably past time for that, in fact!

njbraves

July 1st, 2012
4:25 pm

Venters is just awful. This team has some real problems with its pitching.

BravesfaninAugusta

July 1st, 2012
4:25 pm

Send Venters down to AAA

BFChris27

July 1st, 2012
4:25 pm

That is ballgame.

And I’m usually optimistic.

ncbravesfan90

July 1st, 2012
4:25 pm

Leave him in now geeeeez. If you haven’t realized Jonny doesn’t have it this year then you wont realize it the rest of the year.

The A Bomb

July 1st, 2012
4:25 pm

GAME, SET and MATCH.

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
4:25 pm

While the Braves have few that are really better, I wonder if the Braves would consider demoting Venters.

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
4:26 pm

Thank you Jonny and Fredi.

David O'Brien

July 1st, 2012
4:26 pm

Venters being replaced by CMart. And that’s something we wouldn’t have imagined a year ago.

nolie

July 1st, 2012
4:26 pm

not raising my hand on that silly choice

Tom

July 1st, 2012
4:26 pm

Venters good for 1 everytime

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
4:26 pm

9-14 against NL east if I did my math correctly…. 9-15 if this score holds up

ncbravesfan

July 1st, 2012
4:26 pm

18-20 at home. Pathetic.

tmc

July 1st, 2012
4:26 pm

Don’t be fooled…

When the Braves go to their bench and bring in the likes of Diaz, Wilson, Francisco and Hinski (this year), It gives the other team an out position. And those guys are usually brought in for a big AB.

And don’t for one second think the opposing team doesn’t know that and pitch accordingly to the players in the Braves lineup who might hurt them.

= very frustrating.

Jaded Braves Fan

July 1st, 2012
4:26 pm

The Nats came into Turner Field for the second time in a month and showed that they’re a better team than the Braves. They have a better rotation, a better bullpen, better managaer, and they execute better offensively.

The Braves will have to play significantly better in the second half and probably make a big trade or two if they hope to catch these guys.

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
4:27 pm

I just Turned It off Again!

I’m bout to start Weeping like a Puppy!

Its Painful to see My Boy Vennie Macc Pitch Like This!

Oh well the Blue Brothers Comes on in 10 minutes…keep me updated

TBbravesfan

July 1st, 2012
4:27 pm

just better talent. and just think tomorrow is monday we don’t win on monday.

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
4:27 pm

NickB

You are correct. Venters can has the ball bounce his way.

Mark

July 1st, 2012
4:27 pm

Nick

You have a bad day or something? Real rude to Jerry and Tina!

BravesfaninAugusta

July 1st, 2012
4:27 pm

This team is so inconsistent

Aaron

July 1st, 2012
4:27 pm

Venters needs to go to AAA

Jaded Braves Fan

July 1st, 2012
4:27 pm

ncbravesfan, when this game is over I’m going to post some home numbers that will absolutely appall you.

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
4:27 pm

Only Braves fan..is that a record 107 in Athens?

Think so…

Rico

July 1st, 2012
4:27 pm

Its time to send Venters to the minors to work out his problems. It was good enough for JJ.

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
4:27 pm

Fredi just doesn’t get it. Zimmerman is right handed, Venters has been terrile just about every time out there. He is really clueless and stubborn.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
4:28 pm

batting avg doesn’t matter ya boob, OBP is much more important…

ya know what, believe whatever you want, but you are wrong, and as you old farts die off and the new more educated fans take over, these arguments will become less and less prevalant, just as the belief in a flat earth went away over time, and how we believe in smart things like evolution now

NickB

July 1st, 2012
4:29 pm

it looks like Chipper gave him a lousy throw

BFChris27

July 1st, 2012
4:29 pm

Definitely ballgame.

ncbravesfan

July 1st, 2012
4:29 pm

It’s a wonder anyone spends their hard earned money and endures 100+ degree temps to go to the Ted. I certainly wouldn’t.

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
4:30 pm

This team does nothing correctly anymore. Bad throw from Chipper and more inherited runners score. Such a bad team. It is a wonder that the Braves are above .500. How long can they keep Fredi Gonzalez around?

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
4:30 pm

@NickB

OUCH on that 4:04 Post! lol

That was Brutul!

LAG

July 1st, 2012
4:30 pm

TOBF – You’re in Athens too?

Jaded Braves Fan

July 1st, 2012
4:30 pm

“batting avg doesn’t matter ya boob, OBP is much more important…

ya know what, believe whatever you want, but you are wrong, and as you old farts die off and the new more educated fans take over, these arguments will become less and less prevalant, just as the belief in a flat earth went away over time, and how we believe in smart things like evolution now”

Could you be any more of a know-it-all? The reason a lot of the SABR crowds ideas are being slowly accepted is because they’re presented with such smarter-than-thou condescension.

Shame, too, because a lot of their ideas have merit.

nolie

July 1st, 2012
4:31 pm

hey!!! lets watch that dead old F@rt talk :evil:

Yogi Berra

July 1st, 2012
4:31 pm

Braves can us All-Star break. Hope Wren can spin some majic and get a pitcher and maybe a RH hitter.

JC Brave

July 1st, 2012
4:31 pm

Best team in the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hmmmm

July 1st, 2012
4:32 pm

“9-14 against NL east if I did my math correctly”

fortunately for the Phils they get the Braves next weekend. Swept by the Fish and with the Mets coming in, they’ll be glad to face someone they can actually beat

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
4:32 pm

5 runs for the Braves coming up in the 9th inning….

ab initio

July 1st, 2012
4:32 pm

I thought Chipper’s problem was his knees, not his arms.

Retire son. Scoop up some small amount of dignity inside that gut of yours and do the right thing.

Jay Dubu

July 1st, 2012
4:32 pm

Look forward to the Braves getting the Mondya’s victory procession started tomorrow.

Nats have sucked the life out of them for this game. I really though that the Braves would take this series after they won yesterday. Huddy has to be the anchor of this rotation, and give the team a chance to win the game. He didn’t do that today.

tmc

July 1st, 2012
4:32 pm

Ahhh Chip, story of the day is not Ben Sheets… It’s the Braves get routed at home, AGAIN!

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
4:32 pm

@MIBravesFan

Thanks Bro

I’m Still on the DL…I should be back into ingame Blogging Shape in 7-10 days

JC Brave

July 1st, 2012
4:34 pm

they’ll be glad to face someone they can actually beat

This^ … Hahahahahaha

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
4:34 pm

Hudson sunk the team in the 1st fu**** inning. Thanks “ace”.

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
4:34 pm

TOBF – You’re in Athens too?

No, Kennesaw. I just follow weather, so I know some temps from around the area.

Yogi Berra

July 1st, 2012
4:35 pm

Where’s Whiskey man today?

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

July 1st, 2012
4:35 pm

cabravesfan

I know. Just givin’ you a hard time… ;)

MIBravesFan I really think it’s a “not rubbing salt in a wound” kind of thing.

Yeah, probably…just thought they’d say something. Not a huge deal…

SNEAKY PETE

July 1st, 2012
4:36 pm

MIBF is not a “bro”, even an egocentric idiot like you should know that by now Tommyhachin old son

Mark

July 1st, 2012
4:36 pm

Nick

Sorry for the delay in getting back but I had to go take my every 10 minute piss and take my heart pill. Us old folks have to do stuff like that.

Jay Dubu

July 1st, 2012
4:37 pm

@Yogi Berra

Braves already got their pitcher when they signed Sheets. They are going with the young guys from AAA to sure up the bullpen, and thye will wait to expand the rosters later this year to add some bench depth.

TBbravesfan

July 1st, 2012
4:37 pm

Jay Dubu–

Hope you are right about that win tomorrow.

Brava

July 1st, 2012
4:37 pm

NickB, you are a truly vile person. Hopefully the “old farts” will outlive you.

gcs

July 1st, 2012
4:37 pm

Venters obviously has some problems. Time in Gwinnett would probably do him a world of good.

It’s much better than letting him “work it out” in Atlanta when it is costing them wins.

I just hate when a player is having problems and the manager’s solution is just keep sending him out there to the detriment of the team.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
4:37 pm

Jaded Braves Fan

ya know what, I’m as nice as I can be on here, and try to present these ideas in an even manner, but when the same people refuse to even consider them, or look into them or just reject them outright, ya dadburn right i get condescending. I consider their point of view and present evidence in the form of statistical analysis done by really smart people and covering a large sample size. Then I get countered with smart alecky remarks and “well that’s stupid”

pardon me if I get a little sick of it

NickB

July 1st, 2012
4:38 pm

Brava

only the good die young

cabravesfan

July 1st, 2012
4:38 pm

Signing Ben Sheets will not stop the Braves from going after another starter. He is a very low risk, high potential reward signing. They can still get a front line starter

TBbravesfan

July 1st, 2012
4:39 pm

looks to easy.

Ted

July 1st, 2012
4:39 pm

Will agree that OBP is a most important stat. Clutch avg, i.e. with men in scoring postion and team within two runs, is also a telling stat.

Capt.Mudd

July 1st, 2012
4:39 pm

Ok let’s cut to the chase Clippards! $9.95…Great Clippards!

JC Brave

July 1st, 2012
4:39 pm

The entire NL All-Star roster should be the Braves roster.

These guys are the best of the best!

Mitchell

July 1st, 2012
4:40 pm

F*ing pathetic.

Jerry

July 1st, 2012
4:40 pm

NickB,

Congrats to you. hat was spoken like a true idiot that grows the biggest nads while sitting behind his keyboard. You are someone I’d really like to meet….please! Maybe we could go play in traffic instead of my kids, who are all grown btw. You are such a piece of shyt. Anyone who would take talking about baseball and turn it into a personal issue is the lowest sumb!tch. You are a weak patchetic ass.

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
4:40 pm

Weak ending…. Nats win again. Damn, they’re good. They Can’t keep this up all year though.

Braves home record and NL east record fall again. Below .500 in both. Not good.

Disgusted

July 1st, 2012
4:40 pm

Phillies are said to be asking around about interest in Hamels, but the price is looking like 4-5 prospects, including probably 2 high level ones…

@CAB –

They can ask for that but only way they get close to that is if the other team signs him in the 72 hour period.

It would be a big news in the NL East but will not say its a shocker given the season the Phillies are having.

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
4:40 pm

At least Heyward hit the ball hard. This crap has to stop. The Braves are unable to afford dropping so many series to teams from the National League East.

JoeFan

July 1st, 2012
4:40 pm

The Braves not only need another starting pitcher or two, they need a stronger bench and better arms in the bullpen. Folks this isn’t going to be solved overnight and if they manage to squeak into the postseason it will border on a miracle.

LAG

July 1st, 2012
4:41 pm

Game’s over.

Out before this place turns nasty.

usnavyvolfaninva

July 1st, 2012
4:41 pm

gcs,
Venters is getting paid to pitch… having him continually ride the pine in the Bullpen doesn’t help anything either.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
4:41 pm

tomahawkin meant “bro” in the generic sense that DOB meant it in his blog headline. But if you had been around the blog for a while, you would know that.

Jaded Braves Fan

July 1st, 2012
4:41 pm

Fair enough, NickB.

Those shocking Braves’ home numbers I mentioned earlier…

1-5: Braves’ 2012 record at home versus first-place Washington

1-8: Braves’ record versus first-place NL East at Turner Field teams dating back to last season’s three-game finale with the Phillies

5-15: Braves’ postseason record at home since defeating the Mets in the 1999 NLCS

0-3: Braves’ all-time record at Turner Field in series-deciding games

0-8: Braves’ record in postseason games at Turner Field when facing elimination

18-28: Braves’ home record versus the Phillies since 2007 (the first year of their division title streak)

2-11:  Braves’ all-time Turner Field record versus the Yankees (including 1999 World Series)

Maybe if blew up the park a lot of our problems would magically go away.

Capt.Mudd

July 1st, 2012
4:42 pm

Hey just send the Braves starters to the All-Star game; and make certain you do it on Sunday!!!!

usnavyvolfaninva

July 1st, 2012
4:42 pm

Joe Fan,
I agree. I think they’ll make one of the two WC spots, which is really all that matters; who knows, they could turn into the NY Giants of MLB. LOL

Disgusted

July 1st, 2012
4:42 pm

Its games like this that get me frustrated to the point where its tempting to give up on Johnny Venterbumb.

How much more of this crap has to go on before the change of scenery is needed.

The arm seems to be there, but come on how much more of this do you put up with.

nolie

July 1st, 2012
4:42 pm

you think they will get two starters? I kinda doubt that will happen, especially since Wren seems to think Sheets will be in the rotation soon. but yaneverknow….

Hmmmm

July 1st, 2012
4:43 pm

Next up the worst team in the Majors, no doubt the Braves still make it a very interesting series

Playoffs?????

July 1st, 2012
4:43 pm

In this series vs Nats, we beat the righthander and lost to the two lefthanders—–What does that tell you?

Capt.

July 1st, 2012
4:43 pm

Tomahawkin
July 1st, 2012
4:06 pm

I Cant stand the Overrated Jeff Samantha of The Cubs! BSPN used to s.ck him off hardcore because he went to Notre Dame.

______________________________

U mad bro? You sound jelly….

usnavyvolfaninva

July 1st, 2012
4:44 pm

I just think there’s not enough teams that consider themselves “sellers” to provide the Braves with a lot of choices on who they can go after.

Yogi Berra

July 1st, 2012
4:44 pm

Jay you may be right but I hope they make a move.

Nickb..you must over look some people. Its just a game.

But you know some people on here believe they know everything.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
4:44 pm

Jaded

yes , their terrible performance in crucial home games is troubling….

BravesfaninAugusta

July 1st, 2012
4:45 pm

How embarrassing that Braves have to hope a pitcher coming out of retirement can help them….Diaz Hinske Wilson Francisco horrible off the bench….go with Ross next year until Bethancourt is ready and dump tired McCann although he is a “nice guy”…. Sign Bourn

Tina

July 1st, 2012
4:45 pm

If Uggla is an allstar then Venters should be to.Dont have to worry Freddi will never manage an allstar game. Teams have a better chance of winning a WS with new managers than keeping someone long like Cox Leyland or someone like Baker

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
4:45 pm

Signing Ben Sheets will not stop the Braves from going after another starter. He is a very low risk, high potential reward signing. They can still get a front line starter

And cheaper than Oswalt!

you think they will get two starters? I kinda doubt that will happen, especially since Wren seems to think Sheets will be in the rotation soon. but yaneverknow….

Sheets replaces Minor, another pitcher replaces Delgado or JJ (or Sheets if it goes wrong). Might be looking for a 4/5 starter if the Braves are really impressed with Sheets. Liriano or Vargas I’d guess.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
4:46 pm

Jerry

yer not a real person, you live in interweb land

2, you don’t want to meet me i person. I’m large, ex-military and have a terrible temper, not acting like an internet badass, but it’s true… i’m probably going to end up in prison as I have a mild form of Asperger’s and my friends have done a good job of keeping me from killing somebody…..

it sucks, and I deal with it the best i can

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
4:47 pm

QUESTION OF THE 1ST HALF???

Why is it that when our starting pitchers get run support they pitch like dogcrap???

Come On Man Funk That

Am I the Only one who thinks our starting rotation so far is Overrated???

Throw me in the pool of fans on here who were drinking the Kool Aid and wearing the rose colored glasses in sayting that we have one of the deepest rotations in the game when the Season started…I will Admit I was pretty boy flexin abt our rotation…

usnavyvolfaninva

July 1st, 2012
4:47 pm

DAmn, not even 20,000 at the game?

Mark

July 1st, 2012
4:48 pm

NickB

You are on my prayer list buddy.

Take care

Disgusted

July 1st, 2012
4:48 pm

Nick B — If a player can put up the production like the 10 players on that list of strikeouts leaders, then of course, strikeouts do not matter.

I will go on the rest of my life saying that HRS, RBIs and Doubles do matter. Always will. That group fares well in those stats.

I think that doubles are underrated. I’d rather have a big double guy than a player that pads his OPB with a bunch of walks. What good are runners left on base.

And stolen bases not mattering never makes sense. If a guy steals with less than 2 outs, you have two chances to score. I’ll take that chance.

usnavyvolfaninva

July 1st, 2012
4:48 pm

NIckB,
My son has Aspergers

Mitchell

July 1st, 2012
4:48 pm

Chipper doesn’t deserve to go to the All Star Game any more than Dan Uggla does.

That just tells you all you need to know about him at this point in his career.

Whereas Derek Jeter is still a highly productive player at age 38, Chipper is just a figurehead.

It would be sad to see him get in after the fact because of the player he was ten years ago.

Bozo ( The Clown )

July 1st, 2012
4:48 pm

nolie is a gigantic douche for that uggla comment earlier.. maybe someone should shoot you u waste of space ## nolieshouldabeenaborted

ncbravesfan90

July 1st, 2012
4:50 pm

“Signing Ben Sheets will not stop the Braves from going after another starter. He is a very low risk, high potential reward signing. They can still get a front line starter”

Agreed!

Bozo ( The Clown )

July 1st, 2012
4:50 pm

poor troops..have to serve over seas in a meaningless ridiculous war and then come home to the worst punishment of all..having to sit through an entire braves game in 100 degree heat…ouchies

NickB

July 1st, 2012
4:50 pm

I would be all for blowing up the Ted and building a new , old fashioned park in the middle of downtown somewhere. would probably improve attendance and thus increase payroll,

when I have visited from out of town to see games, I have always thought the nearby area looked a little dodgey

Billy Walsh

July 1st, 2012
4:51 pm

Grant Balfour and Brandon McCarthy could fill two glaring holes right now

Mitchell

July 1st, 2012
4:51 pm

Maybe if blew up the park a lot of our problems would magically go away.

You know, JBF, you make a good point there.

Efrim

July 1st, 2012
4:52 pm

Braves pitchers give up 18 runs in 3 games vs. Nationals. Braves offense puts 15 on the board in 3 games vs. Nationals.

I think it’s pretty clear what the focus should be at the deadline.

SMOLTZ 29

July 1st, 2012
4:52 pm

How soon can Sheets get here? Huddy spits the bit today in the rubber game! We are next to last in the NL in quality starts- LOOK IT UP MERCY

NickB

July 1st, 2012
4:52 pm

Mark

thanks, I will probably be okay, I’ve made it to nearly 40 without much trouble other than a DUI….

Buzz 2011

July 1st, 2012
4:52 pm

Uggla an all star, what a joke!! Send him and his 225 average back to Miami. He needs to be sitting for a couple of weeks. Why is Gonzales playing this guy?

Yogi Berra

July 1st, 2012
4:53 pm

NickB..you also in my prayers.

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
4:54 pm

They were talking about all the runs Hudson gives up in the very 1st inning in so many starts the season. OMG, they think this aging feller is going to lead that team into the playoffs, or if they get there, deep in the postseason, then they deserve to be blanked out of October ball anyways.

I watch this guy choke away big games left and right and most fans still see him as a real “stopper”. No he ain’t. Not anymore and it is time Wren realizes this and quit depending on retreads like Sheets.

Bozo ( The Clown )

July 1st, 2012
4:54 pm

cole hamels said to be available for four to five prospects… get on it wren

usnavyvolfaninva

July 1st, 2012
4:54 pm

NickB,
Do you still take medication? Reason I ask is I’m trying to gage and see if my son’s still going to have to take it when he reaches adulthood.

Jerry

July 1st, 2012
4:54 pm

2, you don’t want to meet me i person. I’m large, ex-military and have a terrible temper, not acting like an internet badass, but it’s true… i’m probably going to end up in prison as I have a mild form of Asperger’s and my friends have done a good job of keeping me from killing somebody…..NickB

Okay dumbass, you wanna have a pissing contest, lets go. I too, was a Mp in the military, and I’m a retired firefighter. I am also large at 6′3″ and 250lbs. Wish I was a little smaller, but I get around anyway. You don’t bother me a-hole an if you are unfortunate enough to live anywhere close to driving distance, I would consider it a real pleasure to meet you. I’m not doing anything important right now and the heat doesn’t concern me. Time and place?

Efrim

July 1st, 2012
4:55 pm

Phillies now 13 games back in the loss column in the NL East race. They finish the 1st half of the 2012 schedule 36-45.

Phillies would have to go 54-27 in the 2nd half of the season to finish with 90 wins.

Amaro is making the right choice in selling, just not sure he’s going to get what he wants for Hamels, Victorino, etc.

Ted

July 1st, 2012
4:56 pm

Nats highlight that smart managers can win games with younger teams. Davey has a math degree; I doubt Fredi can do long division. Great hire, Frank Wren.

Screwball

July 1st, 2012
4:56 pm

The Ben Sheets signing obviously is a shot in the dark. Maybe he is the pitching equivalent of Troy Glaus – and has one more 10 win season in his arm. But in reality, it is another sign that the Braves have to shop in the dollar store. Very sad, actually.

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
4:56 pm

I am of the belief you NEED a true number 1 to go the distance. Not guys who used to be and you stubbornly refuse to except they are no more.

nolie

July 1st, 2012
4:56 pm

nolie was kidding. what is your excuse Bozo, other than being a clown??

BFChris27

July 1st, 2012
4:57 pm

My Ideal Rotation @ (after) Trade Deadline:

Greinke/Hudson/Hanson/Sheets/Jurrjens (either Delgado or Minor to bullpen, whichever one isn’t traded for Greinke)

Likely Rotation @ (after) Trade Deadline:

Hudson/Hanson/Liriano/Sheets/Jurrjens (Minor/Delgado to bullpen)

T-Dawg

July 1st, 2012
4:57 pm

Boooooooo. Losing at home over and over again to teams you need to beat is beyond old. This team has been disappointing to this point. There are no excuses…..but there sure will be when FG is interviewed.

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

July 1st, 2012
4:58 pm

BravesfaninAugusta go with Ross next year

Dude, Ross is gonna be 36 next year. Didn’t you notice the flecks of grey in his beard?…

If you asked him, he’d say to stick with BMac.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
4:58 pm

Efrim – who would have thought on Opening Day he would be selling? That’s why the fun part is watching the actual games played and seeing what happens in a season, isn’t it?

NickB

July 1st, 2012
4:58 pm

usnavyvolfaninva

never have taken medication, only got diagnosed like two years ago, I’m highly functional as I have friends go out…etc I just have a really hard time with conflict and a really really hard time when people don’t seem to understand things that seem so simple to me. I probably should take meds, but eff that, they are expensive and i don’t have insurance, plus, I don’t like the idea of medication altering my worldview and/or behavior, and I haven’t been in a fight in almost a year!

TBbravesfan

July 1st, 2012
4:58 pm

Hey going to church anybody need prayer?

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
4:59 pm

@Jerry

Lmao…Man Dude you sure like to take it to another level!

Yogi Berra

July 1st, 2012
4:59 pm

Jerry and RickB– Thanks for your military service but both need to cool tempers.Its not worth it. peace to you both.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
4:59 pm

Jerry

lighten up Francis

Efrim

July 1st, 2012
5:00 pm

Braves are 15-21 in their last 36 games since starting the season 26-16 in their first 42 games.

nolie

July 1st, 2012
5:00 pm

My ideal rotation after trade deadline…Dickey,Price,Verlander,Weaver and Cain….

BFChris27

July 1st, 2012
5:00 pm

TBbravesfan

Yeah, my nephew as he’s about to embark on a journey (might be joining military) and my family as well as we learned my dad’s bro is not in that great of shape right now.

Playoffs?????

July 1st, 2012
5:00 pm

Why is Venters still here? (AAA)
Why is Minor still here? (had one of his best starts only 4 ER in 5 innings)
Why is Wilson still here?
Why is Henske (sp?) still here?
Why is Diaz still here (love that plate discipline)
Why is Fredi still here (”I’ll pitch to Matt Kemp with game on line and first base open”)?
Why do I follow this team each and every day? (good question)

usnavyvolfaninva

July 1st, 2012
5:02 pm

Sorry, NickB, I didn’t mean to be presumptuous..

Heck, I’d probably be diagnosed with that stuff if I actually saw a doctor over it. I’m still active duty, and don’t want anything that might disqualify me for military service. Got less than 5 years before I retire….but listening to your struggles, sounds like you and I have a lot in common. LOL. (Except I haven’t been in a fight since I was a kid)

My son’s 13, but his Aspergers makes him mentally more like a 7 year old. He’s a great kid for the most part, gets good grades, but every now and then he’ll launch into one of the biggest tirades you’ve ever seen.

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
5:02 pm

Idiots bashing the offense should smack themselves in the face real hard. Offense, other than that awful bench, is better than good. They grind pitchers away and have improved drastically from just a year ago doing the small ball, basic things to score runs.

Pitching all around is a big problem, especially the starters.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
5:02 pm

“nolie

July 1st, 2012
5:00 pm
My ideal rotation after trade deadline…Dickey,Price,Verlander,Weaver and Cain….”

:)

Le Fan

July 1st, 2012
5:03 pm

This pathetic team cant get out of its own way….if we lose 2-3 games to the Cubs we better back that truck up and start unloading…STARTING WITH FATSO GONZALEZ AND FRANK WRECK.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
5:03 pm

Not necessarily in that order, of course! :)

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
5:03 pm

Well People…We Should’ve won in late innings friday night, We Beat Strasturd, and In my opinion, today was a winnable game

Its imperatve that we dont make the AAA Iowa Cubs look Playoff caliber and put a Fatality on the Phillies…Gotta go 5-2 this week! No excuses if we go 3-4

Bozo ( The Clown )

July 1st, 2012
5:03 pm

thats really something to joke about, shooting someone .. how is that funny… i am tired of seeing uggla getting ripped on when he is arguably and statistically in the top 2 or 3 every year for best national league second basemen. It’s becoming absurd how stupid and annoying the Uggla haters are..most sensible people realize he is going to tear in the second half, like he always does, but yet he still receives an insane amount of bashing.. Someone’s gotta stick up for this guy, may as well be this clown!!

NickB

July 1st, 2012
5:04 pm

usnavy

I’m very mellow, and then someone will make a comment and boom, I have to lower my blood pressure…. then I’m 5 minutes later back to mellow again…… have you had his IQ tested? he’s probably very high

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
5:04 pm

Or maybe in that order would work well . . . . :)

Yogi Berra

July 1st, 2012
5:05 pm

TB Braves fan..I do serious.Don’t wish to say why right now but will later.

nolie

July 1st, 2012
5:05 pm

you don’t pay much attention then Bozo, I an always backing Dan as several posts ripped me for today.

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
5:06 pm

@CTB

Co-Sign on that 502 post, I just Had a Semi BF on the starters that I posted on here abt 20 minutes ago, Our rotation is Overrated

NickB

July 1st, 2012
5:06 pm

I do think people forget how young this team is, and how rare it is for teams this young to even be above .500 much less in the playoff hunt.

nolie

July 1st, 2012
5:06 pm

no not necessarily in that order MIBF ;)

Le Fan

July 1st, 2012
5:06 pm

Hudson,Hanson are inconsistent
minor, Delgado,are consistently BAD
Uggla sucks…and hes going to the Allstar game? PATHETIC!

By the end of July these pathetic ,boring, losers will be last place and Framk Wreck will probably extend Fredidiots contract four more years.

Bozo ( The Clown )

July 1st, 2012
5:08 pm

And thank you Nick and Jerry , you both make it quite obvious that the military drives 3 outta every 4 to be quite insane at some point later in their lives, ( if not so already ) What is wrong with you two, internet mafioso’s is no way to go about living, you both sound like clowns and thats coming from a clown you 2 should be ashamed…trying to meet up to fight give me a breakkkkkk

TBbravesfan

July 1st, 2012
5:08 pm

BFChris-

Got you buddy. Yall have a good day.

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
5:10 pm

Tomahawkin, I asked McFann yesterday if she’d been hanging around you lately with her new found slang. :smile:

Le Fan

July 1st, 2012
5:10 pm

Anyone at the game today who stayed after the first inning are idiots…like this team was gonna pull a rabbit out of their hats…i wouldnt spend one dollar to see these incompetent losers play baseball…
And the sad thing is u cant trade any of them!

Bozo ( The Clown )

July 1st, 2012
5:10 pm

Oh ok well my bad then, glad to know there are still some supporters out there… i don’t pay much attention, mostly due to the fact that i am always having to practice juggling and riding on unicycles, i barely just skim through these pages..

Yogi Berra

July 1st, 2012
5:10 pm

Nolie I didn’t rip you today. What I said was good.

BF Chris27..you got it!

NickB

July 1st, 2012
5:10 pm

bozo

I’m not trying to meet up with anybody, my temper got the best of me for a minute there, nothing to see here, move along, lol

nolie

July 1st, 2012
5:10 pm

four starting pitchers 25 and under and three 22 year olds starting every day and some of y’all wonder why the inconsistency?

monty

July 1st, 2012
5:10 pm

What a disappointing outing from Huddy. I believe he was ahead with 2 strikes on a couple of their hitters in the 1st inning and grooved 2-fat pitches. It was a big game, 2 game swing. FF made it respectable for awhile. I always felt like Bourn’s defense was suspect,don’t really care if stats say different, he does not go back on balls well and now 2 games in a row he’s misjudged liners. I thought he could of had that ball off the wall early (I think Ankiel runs that one down). But I do love his offense. Seen more missed plays this year and last from him, than Andrew or Grissom ever missed in their whole careers here.

Le Fan

July 1st, 2012
5:11 pm

By the way…micael bourn cant play centerfield for his life…hes constantly misplaying or misjudging flyballs…let him walk outta here

nolie

July 1st, 2012
5:11 pm

yeah Yogi I know. I was not meaning you or Bill. thank you

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
5:11 pm

Le Fan – nice name. Your post reminds me I’ve never liked the French! (Or would that be La Fan?) :)

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
5:13 pm

@Bozo

I haven’t starting Ripping Uggla yet, but if he doesnt hit against the inner division teams in the 2nd half, I’m gonna join in on Whaling on him

He gets the Haterade poured on him on here because he’s making 15 mill and has been an automatic out the last month

Le Fan

July 1st, 2012
5:14 pm

And venters is SHOT…THANKS TO FREDIDIOT

nolie

July 1st, 2012
5:14 pm

and them damn defensive stats claim he is about the best :?
Lies, dam lies, and statistics……..

TBbravesfan

July 1st, 2012
5:15 pm

Yogi Berra-

Look up man. It’s going to be OK.

Le Fan

July 1st, 2012
5:15 pm

Down with the bastille!

Mark

July 1st, 2012
5:16 pm

Its no secret that I’m no supporter of Uggla as a player the last year and a half in Atlanta. However, I think form what I have observed, that he is a good teammate and I know he always hustles. I’ve never heard him say anyhting but positive things about his team in interviews.

As for the All-Star selection I’ll be interested to hear what his comments are about it. If I am right, I bet that he says he appreciates the fans votes but that others are at least as or more deserving.

Le Fan

July 1st, 2012
5:17 pm

Trade uggla for a sixpack

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
5:19 pm

The Cowds This weekend at Tooner Field reminded me of the sparse Crowds at the old Fulton Co Stad…

More People would go to the games if we could take Big Boy Beer Coolers in like they did in the old days…

Yogi Berra

July 1st, 2012
5:19 pm

Thanks TB…..

phoenix

July 1st, 2012
5:19 pm

1. The Braves do have an All-Star middle infielder. But it sure as hell isn’t Uggla. Andrelton Simmons is the man.

2. Has anyone in MLB stranded more baserunners than Uggla? If so,it’s gotta be a short list. Evidently, his 43 RBI made a big deal with All Star voters as a 2nd baseman. That’s BS. With .300 hitters like Prado and Bourn always on base, if he could make contact at all, he’d have 70 RBI by now.

3. Again, it has been proven that LIberty Media does not own the Atlanta Braves. The Washington Nationals own the Atlanta Braves.

4. As long as Venters, Diaz, Francisco, Wilson, Uggla, and Hinske continue to perform at a minor-league level, this team cannot be taken seriously as a playoff contender. Especially with the Frediot at the helm. It’s hard to compete with Davey Johnson and a roster full of actual major leaguers.

David O'Brien

July 1st, 2012
5:20 pm

Chipper on the team: We have the ability to play brilliantly. We also have the ability to bring out our inner Bad News Bears at times. It’s frustrating, but when you’ve got some young guys they’re going to make young mistakes. But we have a chance to really end the homestand against a team that we, on paper, should beat. So let’s just take care of business, and go to Philly and into the All-Star break on a good note.”

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
5:20 pm

Losing is excepted within the Braves as long as you hustle and/or have a past record of success.

Felix

July 1st, 2012
5:20 pm

Weird comments on the blog today—way, way over the top.
I’m out.

Jay Dubu

July 1st, 2012
5:20 pm

The Braves can not afford to send Venters to AAA to work on whatever the issues are, because they do not have anyone else to bring up.

As it is now, the pen is very shakey, so they can’t add more questionalble arms.

Lew

July 1st, 2012
5:21 pm

Hanson is inconsistent? Does anyone ever bother to check before making declarations? Hanson has given up 3 or less ER in 12 of 16 starts and 2 or less ER in 11 of 16 starts.

Mark

July 1st, 2012
5:21 pm

Le Fan

You are correct I’m afraid. We’ll never see the Venters from early last year due to overuse. The players union does a lot of stupid stuff in my opinion but they should stand up for these young guys who get abused somehow. Venters was really good and now he’ll never get a big payday like he could have.

Jerry

July 1st, 2012
5:21 pm

NickB,

That’s what I thought. You’re pure chicken shyt. And if, as you say, you blow your cool and then are back to normal in a few minutes, then I suggest you learn how to apologize for making asinine statements that piss others off.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
5:22 pm

One of the many reasons I’m going to miss Chipper is his honest assessment of things.

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
5:22 pm

Or “veteran mistakes” like the lazy shyt throw to Uggla, right Chipper? Or the “I’m getting the F out the way of that liner” like yesterday game, right Chipper?

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
5:23 pm

Le Fan Rules

Welcome To The Club…

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
5:25 pm

@Jerry

OUCH!!!

At that 5:21 Post, Man Dude, I felt that one here in Grayson

phoenix

July 1st, 2012
5:25 pm

Uggla is on pace for 190 strikeouts. The legendary Mark Reynolds led MLB last year with 197. I have no doubt Dan can step it up and lead the league.

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
5:26 pm

Lew, you’re right. We don’t even need a front line starter. Why that Hudson is as dependable a stopper, big game guy in the league.

Like I said, don’t blame Huddy. He’s doing great considering his age and those surgeries he’s recently gone though. He just isn’t a 1.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
5:28 pm

so Bozo asked Chip what it was like playing for the mariners back in the day and he replied

that’s a Joe question clown!

cowdogit

July 1st, 2012
5:29 pm

At spring training , everyone said pitching was going to be the strongest part of the braves team . Seven years McDowell has failed to prepare his pitchers for battle . Fourteen years Mazzone never had one bad year . this situation has become more creepy every year .

NickB

July 1st, 2012
5:29 pm

Jerry

i live in Mississippi, if you are really going to drive all this way because your character got besmirched in the internet, you are crazier than I am

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
5:30 pm

CTB – Lew was posting about Hanson, not Hudson,

cabravesfan

July 1st, 2012
5:30 pm

Or the “I’m getting the F out the way of that liner” like yesterday game, right Chipper?

Umm, Chipper didn’t play yesterday…

NickB

July 1st, 2012
5:30 pm

phoenix

Diaz is hitting lefties really well of the bench this year

Lew

July 1st, 2012
5:31 pm

CTB – Whatever. Who are you going to get and what are you going to pay?

FEAR

July 1st, 2012
5:31 pm

Nothing like having Chipper throw team mates under the bus…….

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
5:32 pm

@CTB

You seem Pretty Livid abt dropping another series to the Curley W’s?

I’m Telling you they remind my ass of the 1994 Expos

I bet we have won 3 or fewer series against the Curley W’s since 2010???

Lew

July 1st, 2012
5:33 pm

MIBraves – But he’s all pissed off – don’t expect hi to actually read before flying off the handle. Just not the way it’s done.

keylargo

July 1st, 2012
5:34 pm

Only Braves fan..is that a record 107 in Athens?

It was 108 yesterday in Athens and I’m not sure that was a record.

I do remember back in Athens in 1981 it was 100 or higher for 13 straight days.

FEAR

July 1st, 2012
5:35 pm

Braves have always sucked against the Nats. Now the Nats are a good team. Hudson is not a clutch pitcher. Anytime you need him to pitch well in an important game he chokes. Has-Ben Sheets should fix all of these problems……………………

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
5:35 pm

Fear – there was probably no one watching that didn’t think the Braves at times looked like the Bad News Bears on defense recently! Naming names is throwing someone under the bus! He just acknowledged what we all saw!

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
5:36 pm

Im Not Uggla’s biggest Apologist but I dont care how many times he K’s!

I just want to see him Pull a 1999 Chipper and Carry the team against teams like the Phillies and The Curly W’s!

He’s being paid 15 mill… he is paid to carry the team when he gets hot. thats why he is getting ripped on here

Lew

July 1st, 2012
5:37 pm

keylargo – You’re right on ‘81 – I was painting signs with Classic signs and we had to install a 20′ x 36′ sign on the side of a white building in Greensboro, Ga. one of those days – official temp was 105 and we had absolutely no shade – took six hours for four of us to bolt that sign to the wall.

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
5:39 pm

S/O to FEAR

What Happened To the poster NO MORE BOBBY? And Chris From Sac?

I’m Guessing that Chris From Sac got Bozo’d which is understandable, but what happened to NO MORE BOBBY?

FEAR

July 1st, 2012
5:39 pm

MIBravesFan – Chipper’s statement basically put the poor play on the young guys. Ignoring the fact that he hardly plays, Uggla has been god awful, and Mac is having a pretty down year. It’s poor baseball all around not just the young guys tanking the team.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
5:39 pm

Tomahawkin

not that it makes much difference, but Uggla is making $13 mill

cabravesfan

July 1st, 2012
5:41 pm

Chris from Sacramento lost his will to live when Jason started playing so well. He was last seen in the basement of his home, curled up in a ball, unbathed, and heard muttering to himself incoherently…

FEAR

July 1st, 2012
5:41 pm

What’s going on TH?

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
5:42 pm

Lew, no, I know you posted about Hanson up top. I’m talking about earlier this morning and days before when you said we don’t even need a top starter because we have Huddy and Hanson.

Lew

July 1st, 2012
5:44 pm

Like I said – Who you going to get and what are you going to pay? You going to mortgage the future by trding young guys who you’re pissed off at now and spend money that will put us in the hole going forward like Lowe did?

Jerry

July 1st, 2012
5:45 pm

No NickB, I’m not willing to drive all the way to Mississippi to deal with you, so I guess you are free to attack me however you like without worry that I’m just around the corner. Word of advice though, count to 10 before you attack me for something stupid like you did. The magic word is “scroll”. I don’t take kindly to being attacked personally, or on a family level. That is so petty.

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
5:45 pm

Lew, it isn’t up to a fan or anyone else besides top Braves people who decide who to trade or keep involving a guy like a front liner. They need to decide a) if they need one and b) how do we go about acquiring him. I believe it is something that really needs to be done. But I’m just a little fan blogging from his little town in Chattanooga.

No disrespect Lew. You are one of my favorites. Probably are my fav here.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
5:46 pm

Jerry

I figured you would just take it as a sarcastic comment, not a serious attack on your family

Lew

July 1st, 2012
5:48 pm

And again – if you had read more carefully, what I was saying was that Hudson might be extended, but as a lower rotation pitcher. Hanson is good enough to be a number one and with Vizcaino and Beachy coming back, along with Delgado and Teheran, we will have an effective pitching staff without spending money we obviously won’t have after extending some players and paying arb to others and locking several up when the time comes over the next couple of years.

Dealing because you’re upset like many fans here is a really stupid way to run a ball club.

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
5:48 pm

Yeah you have to be really careful on who you trade. I don’t know who is out there, really, besides the names mentioned a thousand and one times. I have just never been so urgent as a fan to get a player as I am now. We are in desperate need of a true go to guy to put us near or at the level of those Nats.

Lew

July 1st, 2012
5:49 pm

But you can trade Minor if you want for that Top Line pitcher. He should get you what you’re looking for. Right.

Mark

July 1st, 2012
5:49 pm

By the body language on the field by some of the players it sounds as if all us “want to be” managers and gms take it more personally than the players.

Maybe it’ll be better next time!

God Bless and Peace to all

NickB

July 1st, 2012
5:51 pm

Minor has more value than you think, non contending teams have the freedom to let him pitch without sweating the early results, they can just focus on improvement. Like the braves of the late 80’s did.

I bet a package centered around Minor would bring us most any of the arms we need,

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
5:52 pm

Matt Chernoff ‏@RealMattlanta
So the #Braves signed Ben Sheets and they hope he can join the rotation after the AS break. Kris Medlen must be confused. I know I am.

DAmn, not even 20,000 at the game?

Too hot. That’s why I didn’t go.

nolie

July 1st, 2012
5:53 pm

Jerry and Nick
sittin’ in a tree……

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
5:53 pm

“FEAR

July 1st, 2012
5:39 pm
MIBravesFan – Chipper’s statement basically put the poor play on the young guys. Ignoring the fact that he hardly plays, Uggla has been god awful, and Mac is having a pretty down year. It’s poor baseball all around not just the young guys tanking the team.”

The young starting pitchers have, at times, especially recently, been tanking the team. Dan was carrying the team at times earlier this season, and it’s not Chipper’s flippin’ fault he got whacked by that ball in Tampa (and yes he had a misplay recently because of that, and that should have stayed an error!), and I know BMac has had an off-season. I did not read Chipper’s comment as throwing the young guys under the bus, at all.

nolie

July 1st, 2012
5:53 pm

depends on who you want

nolie

July 1st, 2012
5:54 pm

nor did I read it that way either MIBF

Lew

July 1st, 2012
5:56 pm

CTB – Yopu have to have a longer view like WRen. Why do you think he’s refused to part with all the young pitching prospects, even knowing that they’d have to take their respective lumps? It’ s because top pitchers like Cain and others are receiving $20 mil per year deals and the Braves can’t afford to pay that kind of money when their salary level is pre-ordained to remain the same (yes, it DOES suck, but that’s the way it is).

By letting the Kids develop along with position players like Freeman, Simmons and Heyward, they can put together a good team for quite a few years. Maybe all the Kids won’t work out as they hope – happened many times before in all organizations – but you have to let them pitch.

I know many here wanted someone like Garza or Grienke, but honestly, Garza is basically a Number Three starter and we have a couple of those and Grienke, though he will claim Ace money, is still a 3.75 ERA career pitcher with only one really good season to his credit. He won’t be worth giving up one of the pitchers it would cost to get him and we can’t afford his contraxct going forward.

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
5:56 pm

MIBravesFan

That 553 Post was on Point…

This Team Has not Clicked yet where all three aspects of the game are sound on a consistant basis

Lew

July 1st, 2012
5:58 pm

Why is Medlen confused? Not as if he’s actually pitched all that well.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
5:59 pm

TOBF – I want to see Kris pitch better out of the BP before suggesting he’s an answer for the rotation. He hasn’t been that great so far in the BP. It’s great to have him back, but nothing about his performance has indicated he really should be starting.

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
5:59 pm

@FEAR

NM Dude

I’m Sick of this Weather and its just getting started

I’m SO Ready for fall and SEC Football

Jerry

July 1st, 2012
5:59 pm

And you thought wrong NickB, as well as a lot of the people here that commented on how wrong it was. At any rate, I’m letting it go because I don’t like to be looked at as a total ass on here, and believe me, I have looked that way a lot in the past. Now you know.

To everyone else, I sincerely apologize for the things I said personally. Oh yeah, Uggla still sucks to no end! :-)

NickB

July 1st, 2012
5:59 pm

Lew

I would say Greinke has 4 really good seasons to is credit (on of them being an amazing season)

2008,2009,2010 and 2012

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
6:00 pm

Thanks, Tomahawkin

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
6:01 pm

FEAR

July 1st, 2012
6:02 pm

It’s raining in Augusta.

nolie

July 1st, 2012
6:02 pm

of course you are….

NickB

July 1st, 2012
6:04 pm

I sure hope Sheets can produce, it would be an absolute coup if he could come pitch and put up a sub 4 ERA for the rest of the year.

if he doesn’t…. no big loss really, we gave up nothing for him

nolie

July 1st, 2012
6:04 pm

I don’t see much of anything special about 2010….

aldan

July 1st, 2012
6:04 pm

I love Uggla . I voted for him.
American Ligue Fan 1

Jake W.

July 1st, 2012
6:05 pm

The braves have managed to play their worst baseball against the Nats. I want to give the Nats credit, they are a good team and have assembled quite the pitching staff but i’d be lying if I said the braves haven’t contributed to their win total in head to head matches. Errors, poor at-bats, and not so great starts by starters. Hudson has to do better, Minor was ok, and Delgado got done in by his defense. We’re playing the way people thought the Nats would, like a young team with room to grow while they are playing like a more veteran team, at least so far. Taking nothing away from the Nats because they are good, but this braves team should be playing better than this. The difference in these last 3 losses is not just lack of hitting with risp(although that would help big time) but lack of playing fundamental baseball. Have to play better at home and get back on track with the Cubs.

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
6:06 pm

MIBravesFan

Meds Will Be in the Rotation in the 2nd half, Bank On It! With Petey Pablo Coming back there is no option…

NickB

July 1st, 2012
6:07 pm

nolie

well, he had a 5.1 WAR season that year….. but, I know, you don’t like WAR

nolie

July 1st, 2012
6:07 pm

as far as the guys who play all they time, they are an older team

FEAR

July 1st, 2012
6:08 pm

Need to sweep the Chubs this week.

nolie

July 1st, 2012
6:08 pm

I guess I should reword that, they do not have as many young players as we do playing at the same time

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
6:10 pm

It Doesn’t look right seeing Meds Coming out of the Pen…

Maybe Fredi doesn’t know that the Braves were 12-3 in his starts in 2010

keylargo

July 1st, 2012
6:10 pm

The Tour de France has started and even if you don’t care about the bike racing you can see some absolutely beautiful aerial photography from the helicopters covering the race. It’s all in HD and the country and the architecture from the present back to the Middle Ages is so impressive.

The new NBC Sports Channel is covering it which is channel 603 on Directv.

nolie

July 1st, 2012
6:10 pm

Without Any Relevance ? ;)

Lew

July 1st, 2012
6:10 pm

NickB – I don’t agree – he followed up his great year with a season where he posted an ERA of almost 4 runs per game (3.83) – he has a single season with an ERA under 3.47 yet will be paid because he had one great season. Keep in mind a lot of thos wins were as a result of a potent Brwers’ offense – not becuase Grienke pitched that well.

We are not going to be able to afford a $15-20illion price tag and that’s what it will take. AS a rental, it wont be worth the price and long term we can’t afford him.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
6:10 pm

Tomahawkin – I want Peter to come back and pitch great, and I believe he will, but I’m going to wait and see on the Meds part.

nolie

July 1st, 2012
6:11 pm

Meds ain’t starting if we pick one up.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
6:11 pm

Tomahawkin

Meds had a 4.23 ERA that year starting too, and he average 5.5 runs of support, not hard to get wins that way

NickB

July 1st, 2012
6:12 pm

Lew

I’m going by pitcher WAR , where he posted 4.1, 9.3, 5.1 and this years has a 3.6 with half the season left

FEAR

July 1st, 2012
6:12 pm

I’d say no on Grienke. Any word on Dempster and when he will be back?

NickB

July 1st, 2012
6:12 pm

wait, 4.9 not 4.1

nolie

July 1st, 2012
6:13 pm

I declare war on WAR!!

tony austin

July 1st, 2012
6:15 pm

I think the Braves will be lucky to split the series with the Cubs. Samardzija having a pretty good season, game 3 has lefty soft-tosser Malholm and we all know how the Braves do against that type of pitcher.

No offense to Venters, but right now he should not be brought into any close game right now. Either ship him off to AAA to right the ship or just let him throw mop up duty.

This team is a decent team. Not a WS winner imo, but they could be a WC playoff team.

On another note, I sure am tired of watching Uggla strike out over and over again, it’s getting old.

Off my box, everyone have a great day!

Mark

July 1st, 2012
6:15 pm

Nolie

Sign me up

NickB

July 1st, 2012
6:16 pm

Best thing about Dempsters numbers? he is wayy better away than at home.

The more I look at his recent performance, the more I am starting to lean that way, though he did have a mediocre 2011

NickB

July 1st, 2012
6:17 pm

that and AUG and Sep are his best 2 months in his career

Gimper & McError (all star LESS)

July 1st, 2012
6:17 pm

Brian McCann’s record franchise streak of being named to the All-Star game in each of his first six full seasons ended as Buster Posey, Carlos Ruiz and Yadier Molina were named as National League catchers. McCann was hitting only .226, his lowest average ever at this point in a season.

No welfare vote for McCann? What is this world coming to? Oh right. Maybe ‘the world’ woke up and figured out the defensive liability who hits like crap doesn’t deserve a seat at the table!

David O'Brien

July 1st, 2012
6:18 pm

Jake W.

July 1st, 2012
6:18 pm

I guess I should reword that, they do not have as many young players as we do playing at the same time

The Nats have an obvious edge over us in pitching, bullpen and starting, they are playing very solid baseball. I actually feel like our vets are letting us down more than our young guys with a few exceptions. Heyward is fighting his way back nicely while Freeman has had some injury setbacks, and since Simmons has been largely good. Minor is a disappointment but Delgado after a rough April has only really had one bad start and that was in Boston. The more established players not quite doing the job right now.

FEAR

July 1st, 2012
6:19 pm

What do you think it would take to get dempster from the cubbies?

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
6:20 pm

Thanks for the quotes, DOB

Jake W.

July 1st, 2012
6:21 pm

Meds realistically is a bottom of the rotation pitcher or at least he was. If he keeps pitching the way he has so far then we might as well keep Minor in there till we can find a better replacement elsewhere.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
6:22 pm

FEAR

I reckon Minor ,Spruill and a low level would get it done, prices are gonna go down on rental players since the acquiring team can’t get draft picks for them anymore….

tony austin

July 1st, 2012
6:22 pm

The Cubs are rebuilding, so to trade for anyone decent I feel the Cubs will be asking a lot. I watch a lot of Cubs games and though Garza and Dempster are pretty good, I don’t think it would be worth giving what Theo and Jed would want.

nolie

July 1st, 2012
6:23 pm

all three 22 year old starting position players have been real inconsistent over the season, though they are all doing well lately.Pastor/Simmons counting as one season long 22 year old player.

Jeff R

July 1st, 2012
6:28 pm

Wow. Venters is having one heckuva down season.

Hudson got clobber, but just not his day.

Gotta like what you’re seeing from Heyward and Freeman moving toward the break.

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
6:28 pm

TOBF – I want to see Kris pitch better out of the BP before suggesting he’s an answer for the rotation. He hasn’t been that great so far in the BP. It’s great to have him back, but nothing about his performance has indicated he really should be starting

Agree. Just interesting to see Chernoff’s take on this. The Kris Medlen debacle is still bad though…

Mark Bowman ‏@mlbbowman
Many of you have touted Uggla as a candidate for the HR Derby. He said he would love to participate and is hoping to receive an invite

Woody Woodward

July 1st, 2012
6:28 pm

On this date last year we were 48-35. We’re at 41-37 today. Were we a better team last year?

Lew

July 1st, 2012
6:29 pm

Nick B – WAR -what is it good for – absolutely nothing.

Jake W.

July 1st, 2012
6:30 pm

nolie

You expect it from them though, you don’t really expect it from the more veteran players. Freeman has been a little unlucky in terms of the injuries and honestly starting the season at ss we didn’t expect that much. Heyward was the biggest question mark for most and he has made progress.

Like Chipper said with the young ones you expect inconsistencies which is why some of the the more established players not doing as much hurts.

Jerry

July 1st, 2012
6:30 pm

There was a time when getting Sheets would have been huge news. I just hope he has turned that corner after Tommy John and can get back to where he was. Of course, if he doesn’t, it’ll be another Frank Wren dud. And if he does, he won’t be here long because we won’t show him the money. I don’t expect much because our reclamation projects don’t generally pan out.

keylargo

July 1st, 2012
6:30 pm

The Cubs are in last place and are going to stay in last place this year. Do you really think it would take a pitcher the Braves are still hoping to be a rotation pitcher (Minor), a high prospect( Spruill) AND a low level prospect for us to use Dempster the rest of the year and pay him $6 million too? And the Braves get no draft choices either. :wow:

I gotta check on inflation.

Woody Woodward

July 1st, 2012
6:30 pm

Showin yer age, lew.

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
6:30 pm

NickB

July 1st, 2012
6:32 pm

Woody

hmm, well 48-35 is a .578 wiin% 41-37 is a .526 win% so i reckon the answer is yes! tho only 4.5 games back….

lousy starting pitching has done it to us

Trey

July 1st, 2012
6:32 pm

usnavyvolfaninva, that’s awesome that you have five years left. I have a potential 15 years left, depending if I re-enlist or not.

Woody Woodward

July 1st, 2012
6:33 pm

Agree, nick. Starting pitching, especially. Can live with this years pen if we had better starting pitching.

Lew

July 1st, 2012
6:34 pm

Woody -0 I prefer to look at it like I;m showing my inteiigence. WAR is a basically stupid stat that even the experts can’t fiure out which one is better. Forget them both.

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
6:35 pm

@FEAR

We better take 3 out of 4 from the AAA Iowa Cubs…I still cant get over the fact that we made them look playoff caliber at Wrigle earlier this season

its gonna be hard though because we made Jeff Samarditz looks like Randy Johnson Cy Maholm owns Us

Jake W.

July 1st, 2012
6:35 pm

On this date last year we were 48-35. We’re at 41-37 today. Were we a better team last year?

The pen was much better, much. Not to mention a healthy Hanson and JJ, Hudson, Beachy, and even Lowe made us better. This team has great upside though.

Woody Woodward

July 1st, 2012
6:36 pm

Temptations cut the original of that tune.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
6:36 pm

NickB

July 1st, 2012
6:37 pm

Lew

War works, it’s referenced by almost everybody who covers the game now , analysts, journalists, bloggers…etc. It’s not perfect, but it’s a good ,solid number to use as a reference for player performance comparisons

Lew

July 1st, 2012
6:38 pm

MIBraves – Thanks but my sound card is shot.

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
6:39 pm

TheOnlyBravesFan

Matt Chernoff Said it Best on Friday, The Braves Suck in Big Series…And they proved it again this weekend. It seems that they just cant play sound fundamental baseball in big series dating back to 2006

Lew

July 1st, 2012
6:39 pm

Nick B – So what – doesn’t make it worthwhile.

I use lots of stats – BA, OBP, SLG, OPS, WHIP, K/9, BB/9, HR/9, BAA -even BABIP upon occaision.

WAR and UZR just dont cut it.

Lew

July 1st, 2012
6:40 pm

But you go right ahead and attach whatever importance to any stat you desire. Not my problem.

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
6:41 pm

We were 48-35 last year at this time with a bad offense???

Wow and now offense so far this year has been so much better than a year ago…funny how baseball works

Powder Blue

July 1st, 2012
6:42 pm

So glad the powers that be dug down deep to snag Ben Sheets. Our problems are solved!

Jerry

July 1st, 2012
6:42 pm

Mark Bowman ‏@mlbbowman
Many of you have touted Uggla as a candidate for the HR Derby. He said he would love to participate and is hoping to receive an invite

Has anyone ever struck out in the HR Derby? Uggla would be the first.

Lew

July 1st, 2012
6:44 pm

Powder Blue – How is picking up Sheets a mistake or a problem? Doubt he cost all that much – low risk and high reward acquisition that liely does nothing to hinder us from making additional deals. Haven’t heard anyone refer to him as our saving grace.

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
6:44 pm

Sheets is gonna be huge! he will be our 2004 Jaret Wright, or our 2005 Jorge Sosa

Watch! And Bank On It!

Love the Sheets deal

Jake W.

July 1st, 2012
6:45 pm

Something tells me Wren is looking to do a little more than just get Sheets.

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
6:45 pm

We were 48-35 last year at this time with a bad offense???

Wow and now offense so far this year has been so much better than a year ago…funny how baseball works

Which is why we need pitching, not a bat this deadline. A bench bat or two would be great, but we really need a good pitcher who can eat up innings.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
6:46 pm

what is your evidence to back up your assertions of said worthlessness?

my evidence is the success of the Boston Red Sox after years of crappy seasons, they went to a saber system of player evaluation and won with a rather ramshackle group of players. and increased their runs scored dramatically.

My other evidence is that nearly every team in baseball has added a saber statistician wing to their scouting dept’s to try and keep up .

WAR isn’t a subjective stat neither is UZR, it’s all based on mathematical formulas that hold up under scrutiny.

Seriously, y’all, do you think that all of the baseball scouting departments are wrong and you are right? Do you think the way in which these new stats are creeping in to the popular nomenclature is wrong and you are right?

Just because they didn’t use to put these numbers on baseball cards doesn’t mean they have no merit.

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
6:46 pm

@Jerry

LMAO

I bet you will be throwing stuff at the TV During the homerun derby???

Woody Woodward

July 1st, 2012
6:48 pm

We haven’t passed the trade deadline yet, but some fans want to know IF wren will make a run at a proven, healthy starter. I’m not one of those complaining that he hasn’t, but it’s an interesting question. Personally, I’d like to see Teheran get a sustained shot. Just think that we would have to give up way too much for the sort of starter some are calling for.

Powder Blue

July 1st, 2012
6:50 pm

Lew,

Time will tell if the Braves will allow Wren to actually spend the money necessary to improve the club. And I’m not talking about Kyle Farnsworth.

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
6:50 pm

Well we Got Punked in a Statement Series Against The Curley W’s!

Its official, the Nats are in the Braves heads now, Like the Phillies were from 2006-Present….

Gonna Check Philly.com/philliesforum.

A Sweep on that Forun: All Hell Breaks Loose

Their Fans Call Cholly, Mumbles, lol

smallmouth6

July 1st, 2012
6:50 pm

To answer the question of long ago, if it doesn’t get too political (Harper has been a media darling in a media town), then yes—I think the Brave’s young shortstop will have the numbers.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
6:52 pm

I think it’s gonna be interesting to see what pitcher goes first and how much he brings in return. This will kinda set the market.

brian

July 1st, 2012
6:53 pm

nolie – great point at 510

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
6:54 pm

Man We Should’ve beat Gio and The Curley W’s Today, I’m getting Madder the more I think abt it…It must be the heat, brb

Jerry

July 1st, 2012
6:59 pm

Tomahawkin,

Chances are I’ll only watch the all star game when Uggla is batting so I can see him strike out again. So funny! As for the HR Derby, I never watch it. Never saw the point in watching someone hitting less than batting practice pitches over a fence. Pointless.

Lew

July 1st, 2012
6:59 pm

And what proof do you have that it works? All of Billy Beane’s successful seasons? The two years out of the past tern that the Red Sox won with a payroll twice what almost everyone else except for the Yankees spends?

Whatever. Believe what you want – your decision. But maybe they should find a way to standardze the stat vefore claiming it’s all that. Kind of hard to believe in something even the “experts” can’t agree on.

MikeY

July 1st, 2012
7:02 pm

Right now my choice for NL ROY is Wade Miley, 9-4, 2.87 ERA.

He has performed best, in my opinion.

StingerSplash

July 1st, 2012
7:02 pm

Well, the game was as bad as Struggla’s enduring slump.
But at least DOB reached back for a great song of the day. It was one of the first 45s I listened to over and over.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
7:03 pm

Find anything the “experts” can agree on in almost anything, let alone baseball.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
7:05 pm

Lew

the difference is two different sites use two different metrics, so there is fWAR (fangraphs) and bWAR(baseball reference) from what I have read, the standard used by the teams is fWAR as they prefer UZR to TZ (total zone) .

I like WAR because it compares all players at each position to each other and not to all other players in the game. Since the exact same metric is applied to each player, the result is a fair judge of how one player performed individually as compared to another at his position. When everybody at 1st is compared to everybody else at 1st then we can truly see who had the best year at first base that season.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
7:08 pm

Lew

Beane’s method worked amazingly considering his payroll imitations, until the other teams started using it too AND had higher payrolls to work with. I think it’s pretty obvious that his drafting system produces some of the best players. It’s not his fault he has to trade them for value after 4 years consistently

NickB

July 1st, 2012
7:12 pm

dang another extra game in Boston

NickB

July 1st, 2012
7:23 pm

is the blog dead?

Efrim

July 1st, 2012
7:30 pm

Freeman is on fire. Very good to see. Wouldn’t mind seeing Chipper batting cleanup between them, though.

Powder Blue

July 1st, 2012
7:30 pm

NickB,

Yes. Yes it is.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
7:31 pm

If Eddie likes Ben’s arm, Mr. Sheets might be really good for the Braves. Time will tell.

Woody Woodward

July 1st, 2012
7:32 pm

Giants game good.

George

July 1st, 2012
7:32 pm

Tough game to lose, 4.5 back WAS looks real good. VOTE, VOTE, VOTE! Get CHIPPER in ALL-STAR game so season will not be a complete ruin.

Woody Woodward

July 1st, 2012
7:32 pm

Giant come back in the ninth to win.

Woody Woodward

July 1st, 2012
7:34 pm

Bruce misplayed the ball. SF is a tough place to play

Powder Blue

July 1st, 2012
7:34 pm

George

July 1st, 2012
7:39 pm

Where were the people? annonuced attdendence 18,796, but a whole lot less than that there,, hardly anyone in outfield seats . This on a Sunday afternoon. Very sad, but the way team is playing, can’t really blame the folks.

nolie

July 1st, 2012
7:41 pm

WAR ain’t really a stat at all, and you are wasting your time Nick. folks here have been inundated with all the sabermetrics known to man for years and have each one established their own belief level. Unless you stumble on to a newbie you ain’t likely to change anybody’s mind much at this point ;)

nolie

July 1st, 2012
7:43 pm

WAR is subjective though if by nothing else than the choice of what components have been decided on. so subjective that some heretics went out and created their own that does not agree with the original……

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
7:45 pm

George, it was 105 degrees today.

nolie

July 1st, 2012
7:45 pm

Beane was not about WAR at all, in fact he was not really about stats rer se, he was about finding an asset that was underappreciated and undervalued. OBP was basically Billy ball, certainly not WAR

David O'Brien

July 1st, 2012
7:47 pm

nolie

July 1st, 2012
7:47 pm

FCS George it was over a hundred degrees, anybody but extreme fans were watching at home. I’ve read some silly attendance comments here B4, but that one kinda ranks way up thar…..

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
7:49 pm

Were you there, George?

nolie

July 1st, 2012
7:49 pm

gNats own us……

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
7:51 pm

Thanks for the game story, DOB

Efrim

July 1st, 2012
7:51 pm

Team By Team International Forecast

By Ben Badler
July 1, 2012

Atlanta Braves

The Braves have not been tied to any of the top 20 prospects in Latin America, although some teams feel that Venezuelan righthander Yeralf Torres is one of the better pitchers in the market. Atlanta has done a fine job finding pitchers in Latin America (Julio Teheran, Randall Delgado) the last several years, and sources think Torres is one of the arms the Braves will try to sign. Beyond him, it’s hard to say what the Braves will end up doing. They are always busy in Panama, where they have signed Delgado, catcher Christian Bethancourt and lefty Dismaster Delgado, among others.

Frankie Wren

July 1st, 2012
7:52 pm

Ben Sheets? Pick up John Thomson again and good enough with the starting rotation.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
7:53 pm

They don’t own anything except the lead, and it’s not that big a lead – let them think they do. It’s a long way from July to October.

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
7:54 pm

As negative and bitchy as I am today after a bad game, I hafta admit I really do like the Sheets signing. This could be one of those situations when other teams are kicking themselves not giving him another chance. Also could turn out to be a “I knew it” situations too. Doesn’t matter though. We gave up zero and paid cheap I’m sure.

Sopheee

July 1st, 2012
7:58 pm

Reeduckulous George. Seriously, it’s getting old.

David O'Brien

July 1st, 2012
7:59 pm

Trey

July 1st, 2012
8:00 pm

Powder Blue, that Melk Men thing seems to be spreading over there faster than a CA wildfire.

Trey

July 1st, 2012
8:01 pm

nolie, I would have gone to today’s game, but living out of Georiga….Well, you know how that is.

nolie

July 1st, 2012
8:05 pm

gee considering what is going on in Colo, not sure wildfire is the best simile

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
8:05 pm

I don’t even know what to say about that. He’s trying to be gracious and grown-up. To his credit. He’s a high school kid in the major leagues.

brian

July 1st, 2012
8:06 pm

sheets is a good sign. High reward and low risk. he has had over a full season to recover from Tommy John and let the rest of his ailments heal. He was once an ace himself. We simply need him to be a 4/5 type guy in the rotation.

That still leaves the top of the rotation lacking. Do they go for it, trade for Greinke after getting Greinke to agree to an extension? Or do they go for a Liriano or Vargas alternative?

Trey

July 1st, 2012
8:06 pm

nolie, ay, absolutely right. My apologies. :oops:

nolie

July 1st, 2012
8:07 pm

most would not and to complain that the attendance was sparse on the second straight day of record temps is pretty silly IMO Trey

nolie

July 1st, 2012
8:08 pm

no apology needed, I prolly would not have said anything if that was not one of my old stomping grounds

brian

July 1st, 2012
8:09 pm

I think the hot stove heater will be cooking with Braves rumors over the next few weeks with no place having more rumors than this blog…

Greinke, Garza, Dempster, Liriano, Vargas, Willingham, McCarthy………..

Sopheee

July 1st, 2012
8:10 pm

Harper said all the right things there. Good on him.

Jake W.

July 1st, 2012
8:10 pm

I always find it ironic that those most concerned by attendance are never the ones at the park. Much credit to the fans that did tough out the heat to watch the braves play less than stellar ball the last few days.

nolie

July 1st, 2012
8:10 pm

maybe, if they really like what they see in Sheets, he may be it

Trey

July 1st, 2012
8:10 pm

It is extremely silly, nolie. George needs to focus more on the team’s performance rather than the attendance, IMO. last I checked, we watched the game for the game, not to see which team has the most folks attending.

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
8:12 pm

George needs to focus more on the team’s performance rather than the attendance

He’s got that covered. All on Fredi.

Trey

July 1st, 2012
8:12 pm

I would have mostly gone, as I haven’t gotten a chance to go to a game this year and I haven’t gone to many in the past few years.

Anyway, glad you did say something. It’s probably not the most appropriate thing to say, considering what is happening over there. We have some reservists who are evacuating their families from CO.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
8:12 pm

He might also being an arrogant punk. Given his track record, that’s more likely. I have to learn to stop giving people the benefit of the doubt!

nolie

July 1st, 2012
8:14 pm

I think he is making an effort to be less punky, but who really knows?

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
8:14 pm

Harper’s what…19? And he was even younger during that blowing a kiss incident. Given that he’s immensely talented and that talent had suddenly catapulted him into the national spotlight, I can understand a kid like him being cocky.

As far as I know, he’s done good at keeping to himself since his callup

Disgusted

July 1st, 2012
8:15 pm

We are not getting another ballpark, we have to deal with the Ted, location, no MARTA line and all.

Some of the ideas of blowing up the Ted and starting another stadium are either sarcastic or silly.

It would be nice to have a rail line, that would help attendance a little but not enough that it would be cost efficient to put a rail to the stadium, so it is what it is.

They tried to make the surrounding area better and for a while it looked like it was on its way but it is what is is, an area where you do not want to get lost in at night.

brian

July 1st, 2012
8:15 pm

no kidding nolie – 106 degree temps in that ballpark???

even if I was there and had a good seat in the sun, I would have left my seat and found some shade there for most of the game

nolie

July 1st, 2012
8:17 pm

many moved up high where there is some shade, making it look even barer than it was :?

Venice Jim

July 1st, 2012
8:17 pm

As long as George didn’t blame Fredi for attendance I think he’s taken a step in the right direction…

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

July 1st, 2012
8:18 pm

Jeff R The pen was much better, much. [at this time last year] Not to mention a healthy Hanson and JJ, Hudson, Beachy, and even Lowe made us better.

We also had a guy batting .311/.386/.521 with 14 Doubles, 14 HR, and 47 RBI in the heart of the order…

:(

Disgusted

July 1st, 2012
8:18 pm

Sheets has not pitched at all in two of the last 3 seasons but this sign might be a diamond in the rough.

First of all, he is pitching right away, so Ben has to be in good baseball shape.

Something tells me this sign will reek success. Seriously, the Braves did something that I like for whatever its worth.

Sheets was very good for a few yrs. Too bad he was on some poor Milwaukee teams.

Efrim

July 1st, 2012
8:18 pm

Well, at least the Cubs are coming to town for four games…..

…there is that…..

Jake W.

July 1st, 2012
8:18 pm

Starting to see some more blue at Citizen’s Bank Park, no worries though, they have their “sellout” streak intact.

On another note how about the braves break that little streak of theirs that they have going. Winning on Monday is allowed and its not impossible. Miracles have been known to happen, I mean Francisco and that swing got a hit yesterday. Lets get the second half of the season started off with a Monday win.

Venice Jim

July 1st, 2012
8:18 pm

Keep in mind that before the kiss-blowing incident the pitcher had been mocking him…

Trey

July 1st, 2012
8:18 pm

I think he’s stopped just short of that VJ. He’ll probably do that eventually.

Disgusted

July 1st, 2012
8:19 pm

I really do not get the hate of Harper, he is not a bad kid.

Is it some jealousy from opposing fans who wish he was on their side?

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
8:21 pm

Is it some jealousy from opposing fans who wish he was on their side?

I think it’s the same as Tebow…people don’t have a problem with him, it’s the media’s obsession with the guy. And they turn that into hate against Harper.

keylargo

July 1st, 2012
8:21 pm

This isn’t real encouraging for Sheets and his health the last 8 years.

2005 22 games

2006 17

2007 24

2008 31

2009 0

2010 20

2011 0

2012 0

Venice Jim

July 1st, 2012
8:22 pm

Bizarre 1st inning – Kershaw hits first guy and picks him off – walk – Wright single – RBI single, Wright to third batter thrown out at 2nd…

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
8:22 pm

Where is Jeffrey D at?

We Have a Trap Series Against The AAA Iowa Cubs this week…

Efrim

July 1st, 2012
8:23 pm

Greinke, Garza, Dempster, Liriano, Vargas, Willingham, McCarthy………..

Can we please not trade for Jason Vargas? He’s being paid 4.85 million this year and will most likely make something around 6.5-7 million in 2013. I’d really rather not may him that much to be a 4/5 starter, but I guess if they’ve lost some confidence in the Minor/Delgado/Teheran trio – it makes a little more sense….I guess….

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
8:23 pm

I’m at home

Venice Jim

July 1st, 2012
8:24 pm

So, basically, Kershaw faces 5 batters, 1 HBP, 1 BB, 2 singles…

brian

July 1st, 2012
8:25 pm

I would love to be a fly on the wall when FW has organizational and brainstorming meetings running through different scenarios. Which pitcher to add, who to extend, etc. Is there an affordable bat out there?

Efrim

July 1st, 2012
8:27 pm

Vargas has given up a home run in each of his last 10 starts.

Venice Jim

July 1st, 2012
8:28 pm

Shocking – the Dodgers score…

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
8:28 pm

I dont Hate Harper, In Fact I like That Justin Barbie Song (Boyfriend) That he comes out to

With that Said I hate the BSPN Hype…Just like they do with Tebow

And OTOH, I’m Pretty Sure We got a lot of Hate when A. Jones was Hot on the Streets, Ditto for J-Hey

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
8:30 pm

“Venice Jim

July 1st, 2012
8:28 pm
Shocking – the Dodgers score…”

Stop the presses!!! (Lately!)

Jake W.

July 1st, 2012
8:30 pm

Can Sheets throw a knuckleball?

What a find by the Mets. I wonder if Dickey gets the nod to start the all-star game. Real shame that Beachy got hurt, would have been there as well. Both unexpected aces for the first half of 2012.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
8:31 pm

brian – flies on the wall can’t post on the blog and tell them what to do!

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
8:34 pm

If Ben Sheets can pitch, he doesn’t need to throw a knuckleball!

richbrave

July 1st, 2012
8:37 pm

Uggla needs a day off

July 1st, 2012
8:38 pm

Heck, Braves once started Satchel Paige in a game when he was about 46. Sign, ole Satch up or did he pass away?

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
8:38 pm

holy storms…I’m getting hail

Efrim

July 1st, 2012
8:39 pm

I honestly don’t think the Braves saw enough from Medlen the last six weeks to install him into the rotation. Even with the struggles of Minor, the pen needed an arm in it. Venters just hasn’t been there and I think EOF’s elbow isn’t 100%.

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
8:39 pm

Sheets is 33….why are people making these over the hill jokes and comparisons to old people?

Jake W.

July 1st, 2012
8:42 pm

If Ben Sheets can pitch, he doesn’t need to throw a knuckleball!

Its a big If, but I like the sign by the braves, low risk, high reward. We haven’t had much success in recent years with reclamation projects.

Mike Gonzalez has looked ok for the Nats, I was a little surprised we didn’t give him a look, don’t think he commanded that much. For them he just makes an already strong pen stronger. He’s not the Cobra of old but might have been a better late sign than Livan.

ncbravesfan90

July 1st, 2012
8:46 pm

Phil Mackey of 1500ESPN.com reports that the Braves, Blue Jays, Yankees and other teams were scouting Francisco Liriano during Sunday’s start against the Royals.

ncbravesfan90

July 1st, 2012
8:48 pm

Per MLB Trade Rumors:

Look for Atlanta to join the pursuit of Zach Greinke’s services if the team can secure him long-term for closer to $15MM per season than $20MM, tweets David O’Brien of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. Greinke, 28, is enjoying a strong season in his second year with the Brewers after being acquired from the Royals in December 2010. The right-hander has posted a 2.82 ERA with 9.0 K/9 and 1.9 BB/9 through 16 starts.

The Braves were among a series of teams scouting Francisco Liriano today during his start against the Royals, reports Phil Mackey of 1500ESPN.com (via Twitter). While Liriano failed to turn in a quality start on Sunday, the former All-Star has improved his performance each month of the season thus far. The 28-year-old signed a one-year, $5.5MM deal with the Twins in January and will be an unrestricted free agent after the 2012 season.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
8:51 pm

Jake W – but they did before, and if Eddie (who caught him with the Brewers) liked what he saw, maybe Ben will be a heck of a find for the Braves. And there is nothing lost in giving it a chance!

brian

July 1st, 2012
8:52 pm

I also wonder if the Braves are asking a lot of long term questions in regards to McCann right now. If they decide that they cannot afford McCann while extending Heyward, Freeman, Simmons, Kimbrel, Beachy (assuming he recovers as expected from TJ) while possibly extending Bourn and getting another pitcher – do they think of trading him now to maximize his value?

We could trade McCann for a significant haul of prospects and/or major league ready talent. A true impact pitcher will cost significant prospects and money – we could use McCann’s expected salary to help offset this new pitchers salary over the coming years and flip prospects for this pitcher or to replinish our system.

Not saying it is the right move but do the Braves consider it? Do we try the Yankees for Gary sanchez (he is a true stud prospect at C – seen him play), Manny Banuelos, and Dellin Betances (or one of the two pitchers plus another player or two)? To the Angels for Bourjos, ervin Santana, and johnny Hellweg/Garret Richards?

I obviously am not a GM (as evidenced above) but the Braves could replenish their farm, get arms, and clear salary for the next 5-6 years by moving McCann. They would though be trading arguably the top catcher of the last 4 years, a current fan favorite/local boy/Braves icon.

I don’t see them doing it but if/when it is discussed I bet there are some fiery opinions

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
8:56 pm

Btw, Jake, that Mike is in the Rangers’ BP – not doing his Cobra move, but effective the last time I saw him

Jake W.

July 1st, 2012
8:57 pm

And there is nothing lost in giving it a chance!

I know, never said anything negative about the sign. Was just joking about the knuckleball thing. Dickey is a nice story though as was Beachy.

Not many people would have guessed when Beachy was called up that he would have had a chance to be an all-star and had he’d been healthy he probably would have been in.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
8:58 pm

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
8:58 pm

How can some of you be so obtuse?

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
9:00 pm

I’m a cute.

Jake W.

July 1st, 2012
9:00 pm

MIBravesFan

He’s in the Nats pen, went unsigned this offseason. Signed with them.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
9:01 pm

Kudos Jake W. You’re a good blogger! I’m going to sign off before I say anything else stupid! I love this blog! And I’m very fond of a lot of the bloggers! I’ll shut up now! :)

Venice Jim

July 1st, 2012
9:01 pm

a^2 + b^2 < c^2

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
9:02 pm

Nerdbucket Moylan

July 1st, 2012
9:02 pm

Funny how we are resigned to shopping at the sunnyvale retirement home community or walter read hospital for signings. loaf anderson, raul mondesi, sheets, et al. geez. wren’s inability to spend wisely is a serious issue. the low obp garbage that he brings has to stop. when we need serious help right away we go get sheets? unreal

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
9:03 pm

Good sign Braves are on the trail for some pitching help even after the Sheets signing. Still, pitching is a hot commodity any time, so competition will be very feirce.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
9:04 pm

One last thought – it’s always great when people talk in equations!

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
9:06 pm

I lied! I’m not leaving! POed!

Efrim

July 1st, 2012
9:07 pm

I guess is folks are really concerned about the anxiety issues and his being able to handle a big market, then I suppose he might be in line for a contract around what Jered Weaver got – 5 years, 85 million.

I suppose the Braves would find that more reasonable, but I still can’t see them offering a starting pitcher that much money.

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

July 1st, 2012
9:08 pm

brian We could trade McCann

NO!!!!

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

July 1st, 2012
9:15 pm

Did I break it?…

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
9:16 pm

No, McFann – not your fault in any way.

Venice Jim

July 1st, 2012
9:17 pm

= c^2

Not in an obtuse triangle… :roll: … carnies…

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
9:18 pm

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
9:19 pm

Y’all need to get your swag back.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
9:19 pm

Efrim

it would be the same per year the gave Lowe…

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
9:19 pm

You never said an obtuse triangle.

Nerdbucket Moylan

July 1st, 2012
9:21 pm

I completely agree with those that suggest that we check the market for potential return on McCann. The longer that you wait the lesser the return

NickB

July 1st, 2012
9:21 pm

The trade Mac thing cracks me up, who plays catcher? Ross? nope, he gets exposed everyday and becomes pretty darned lousy. Bethancourt isn’t ready (nor are any of these prospects discusses or they would be starting)

Barring a total breakdown for the rest of 2012 AND 2013, I reckon Mac is prolly 95% to be extended

nolie

July 1st, 2012
9:21 pm

they might go that Efrim, but guessing it likely needs to be a bit cheaper

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
9:22 pm

Ever notice Uggla messes with his cup a lot when talking it up to an opposing player at 2nd base? What are they talking about?

nolie

July 1st, 2012
9:22 pm

yeah the trade Mac is pretty silly stuff

kenhotlanta

July 1st, 2012
9:23 pm

Disgusted: The Braves resumed the shuttle buses this year, so you can get there on public transportation from anywhere in the metro area (park and ride). The stadium parking lots are safe and well patrolled during the games, so you can park safe if you drive. But I wouldn’t go out among the surrounding areas during the day, much less at night. I don’t think building a new stadium outside the perimeter would help much…if the Braves are winning and competitive, the fans will come.

nolie

July 1st, 2012
9:23 pm

Dan is just tipping his cap early for the expected loss Brian

nolie

July 1st, 2012
9:24 pm

hiya ken, how you doing

keylargo

July 1st, 2012
9:25 pm

how could you not look at trading McCann? Hasn’t had a year as good as 2008 despite being dead in the middle of his prime in 4 years. Defense is what it is and will regress quickly. Offense has evolved into below average. Someone would give two young starters for him and free up $13M for two more players in the $5 to $8 range. 4 starters for a player in clear decline.

IN 2013 we will be blackmailed into signing him to an overpriced contract or giving him away. Now or this off season is the time to move

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
9:25 pm

Trade nolie. Annoying as shyt.

kenhotlanta

July 1st, 2012
9:26 pm

Brian, and it looks like the have scaled back on all the damn hugging, too. That got a little weird at times.

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
9:26 pm

Yeah nolie, it looks gay though. He does while smiling, too. A bit creepy. But who’s gonna stop him with those pop eyes?

Efrim

July 1st, 2012
9:26 pm

it would be the same per year the gave Lowe…

They gave Lowe 2 million a year less and one less guaranteed year – 4 years, 60 million.

If Wren is really not liking the Minor/Delgado/Teheran trio, then maybe he gives Greinke 5 years, 85 million, however I still don’t see it.

ncbravesfan90

July 1st, 2012
9:29 pm

I definitely give Greinke 5 years, 85 million if he’ll take it. This truly gives the Braves their ace they have been needing.

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
9:29 pm

Our district manager is a married man with kids. He swings his hips when he walks and says “heeeeey” in a boy george sorta way. Who’s gonna tell him to do otherwise though?

Efrim

July 1st, 2012
9:29 pm

So, the New York Mets may be 44-36 after tonight…..

Anyone have some thoughts on that?

Nerdbucket Moylan

July 1st, 2012
9:29 pm

bourn should have been dealt weeks ago. go back and look at my posts. his obp has quickly reverted closer to mean. go read baseball prospectus; empirical evidence suggests that players less than 30 yrs of age tend to perform exceptionally well in contract years.

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

July 1st, 2012
9:29 pm

MIBravesFan not your fault in any way.

Thanks. Woulda tied in with the rest of my day, though—or at least a significant chunk of it…

NickB

July 1st, 2012
9:30 pm

keylargo

most catchers can’t hit, Mac is struggling, that’s for sure, but before hi injury last year he was ahead of 2008’s pace (which looks to be a bit flukey babip wise)

This is how bad catcher hitting is, even as bad as Mac has been, he’s still 10th in MLB in catcher production. If he can get his OPS back up near .800, he will be right back to being in the top 5 again.

I myself am not concerned with Mac until it’s July of 2013 and nothing has changed.

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

July 1st, 2012
9:31 pm

Hey! BMac caught all nine innings of a game where the temps on the field were almost 120 degrees! He must be in really good shape!!! :D

[Runs off, whooping and hollering…]

NickB

July 1st, 2012
9:31 pm

Efrim

i thought you said $15 mill a year

Sopheee

July 1st, 2012
9:34 pm

Fo’ real. Let’s see a toothpick try and do that.

JAFO

July 1st, 2012
9:34 pm

Manager Blutarski…Dean Wormer is on line one.

Bravefaninok

July 1st, 2012
9:34 pm

Ben Sheets looks to be a big upside,low risk signing.Now get Greinke and the braves rotation looks tough.

kenhotlanta

July 1st, 2012
9:35 pm

nolie, trying to stay cool and busy with family illnesses and eBay. I scan the blog, but haven’t had much time to jump in.
My DVR is getting full, too. Falling Skies and True Blood are really good again, but haven’t watched a lot of others.
Hope you are well.

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
9:36 pm

nolie, kidding, you da man!

Efrim

July 1st, 2012
9:39 pm

i thought you said $15 mill a year

5 years, 85 million – 17 per year

Bravefaninok

July 1st, 2012
9:41 pm

Efrim

July 1st, 2012
9:29 pm

So, the New York Mets may be 44-36 after tonight…..

Anyone have some thoughts on that?

The Mutts will come back to the pack.

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
9:41 pm

McCann was nowhere to be seen today, though. Probably at home sleeping all day. Out of shape wimp!

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
9:41 pm

McCann was nowhere to be seen today, though. Probably at home sleeping all day. Out of shape wimp!

Venice Jim

July 1st, 2012
9:41 pm

I didn’t have to, the topic was obtusenicity…

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

July 1st, 2012
9:42 pm

Sopheee Let’s see a toothpick try and do that.

Strasburg’s a stickman. Just sayin’… :cool:

Efrim

July 1st, 2012
9:44 pm

Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
Other clubs think the Phillies would have a really tough time getting anything close to their asking trade price of 4-5 prospects for Hamels

Really? Why would that be? Maybe because 2 months of any player in the sport is not worth 4-5 prospects(2 being A+, apparently). And you get nothing for him after the season. Not a thing.

The best-case scenario for these deals is Carlos Beltran for Zack Wheeler. That’s the absolute best a team can hope for for 2 months of a player.

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
9:45 pm

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
9:45 pm

I will say it and admit I was wrong laterif I’m worng, but I will predict right now that we get Greinke. One thing going for the Braves already might be that Greinke has said before he grew up a huge Braves fan, idolized Smoltz. He maybe, just maybe, signs a slight discount to accommodate the Bravos. They obviously have what it takes to get him right now, but the extension thing will be a key.

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

July 1st, 2012
9:46 pm

CTB

I saw him in a clip from the Salute to The Troops—he was standing with a Member of the Service, as were all the players…

Didn’t see him in the dugout, though. But then again, the dugout seemed strangely empty today. Maybe some of the guys that weren’t playing stayed back in the tunnel and out of the heat…

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

July 1st, 2012
9:47 pm

“Now don’t get purposefully obtuse with me, Andy!…”

—Barney Fife

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
9:48 pm

So if the Giants hadn’t drafted Wheeler one pick in front of where the Braves took Minor, what might have been . . . . It’s really annoying that they traded him to the Mets, isn.t it?!

NickB

July 1st, 2012
9:52 pm

something is up with the all star vote in thing, I have voted for chipper 78 times already

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
9:53 pm

McFann, just giving you a hard time. :smile:

My brother likes McCann a lot. Coming from him that’s saying something. Getting that dude to like anybody or anything, other than his beer :roll: , is big news.

keylargo

July 1st, 2012
9:53 pm

NickB

Do you want to know how bad McCann’s offense is? Look at this carefully

…………. BA OBP SLG 0PS

………….333 388 572 961 Best year

………… 226 295 385 679 This year

………….282 354 478 832 Career average

…………107…..93….94…282 Below Career norms

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
9:55 pm

All with one address, right, Nick? I don’t think you have to do the multi-e-mail address thing with the 34th player vote, do you? Chipper needs to win this vote!

NickB

July 1st, 2012
9:55 pm

key

I know his numbers are lousy this year, but he’s still above avg in offense at catcher

I was pointing out how bad league catching is , not really commenting on Mac per se

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

July 1st, 2012
9:56 pm

CTB

Aw…:) Guess BMac’s got something after all!… ;)

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
9:57 pm

Correct me if I’m wrong, but the last time McCann was consistantly hot as a firecracker was spring training ‘11. That was when we were all saying “save it for the season”. He’s been so up and down, and down mostly this year, since then.

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

July 1st, 2012
9:57 pm

Jeepers! We KNOW what BMac’s numbers are! GYAH!! Don’t need folks shovin’ ‘em in our face at all hours of the night!…

:evil:

NickB

July 1st, 2012
9:57 pm

before he got hurt last year Mac’s OPS was like .897

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
9:59 pm

It’s 9:59 in GA and MI time zone, McFann . . .

Steve from OH

July 1st, 2012
10:00 pm

So, the New York Mets may be 44-36 after tonight…..

Anyone have some thoughts on that?

Hard to believe, but I think a return to reality is coming…

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
10:01 pm

McCann has a lot going for him with the Braves other than just stats he puts up. A team leader, a guy they want young players coming up to copy. It is frustrating watching him like this, but my gut says he will still be here a while.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
10:01 pm

It DOES seem hard to believe that their other 3 pitchers and offense can maintain this level of production

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
10:02 pm

I hope so, Steve! Didn’t the Braves bust up R.A. Dickey very badly in a game earlier this season?

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

July 1st, 2012
10:02 pm

BMac was pretty hot May-mid July last year. Was killin’ it with the homers for a while there…

I thought his ST in 2011 was mediocre, and I was saying how that was good because his mediocre STs had led to very good seasons in previous years, and vice versa…or maybe that was 2010…?

MIBravesFan_

Exactly!…

NickB

July 1st, 2012
10:04 pm

I think Dickey is for real, he’s doing it for too long to be a fluke, but guys like Dillon Gee and Chris Young can’t last

HAL

July 1st, 2012
10:05 pm

ha ha melk dud starting over the bravos future face lmao

Jake W.

July 1st, 2012
10:05 pm

I hope so, Steve! Didn’t the Braves bust up R.A. Dickey very badly in a game earlier this season?

They did, but R.A. said blame it on the rain. Couldn’t get a feel for the pitch. One of Francisco’s best days if I remember it correctly.

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
10:06 pm

Well then it was 2010 spring he was destroying everything.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
10:06 pm

it looks like Giants fans voted en masse, cuz they have 3 guys starting who probably shouldn’t be

Mark

July 1st, 2012
10:08 pm

They sure did Nick. Add Uggla and Furcal to those 3 and the National League fans really look like idiots

keylargo

July 1st, 2012
10:09 pm

but he’s still above avg in offense at catcher

then trade his ass while teams think they are getting something other that what he is. 107…..93….94…282

Batting Aver – down 107

OBP – down 93 poiints

SLG – down 94 points

OPS – down two hundred eighty two (282) points

You’re going to be paying this player $15 to $18 million for 6 or 8 years if you don’t dump him

Jake W.

July 1st, 2012
10:10 pm

it looks like Giants fans voted en masse, cuz they have 3 guys starting who probably shouldn’t be

The game counts, if you have a good team why not vote for the team that gives your league the best chance to win. I don’t like to vote for a brave unless they deserve it.

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
10:10 pm

Chipper was talking about young players make young mistakes. What was he talking about from today’s game? Hudson is no kid. Neither are Bourn,Uggla, Ross or Diaz, who were all key to the loss. DR did have a RBI single but couldn’t get even a sac fly. Varvaro and Freeman both young and both helped today.

Jake W.

July 1st, 2012
10:12 pm

SS position in the NL doesn’t seem that strong this year.

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
10:13 pm

BMac in June

BA OBP SLG OPS BAbip
.193 .245 .330 .574 .224

Dan Uggla in June

BA OBP SLG OPS BAbip
.160 .327 .321 .648 .222

Not pretty numbers from guys that were/are hitting 3/4 in the lineup. Not even 4/5 or 5/6 is this okay. Someone’s gotta pick it up soon. I bet Dan does first, he’s shown it earlier this year. BMac needs to bring back his mojo.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
10:14 pm

I want Tony aka “The Brain” to start Dickey for the NL so he bleeps up the AL hitters’ swings for the game, because based on the starting lineup the Giants’ fans gave the NL, that’s pretty much the NL’s only chance for home field in the WS.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
10:14 pm

Furcal deserves it, have you looked at his numbers at SS?

NickB

July 1st, 2012
10:14 pm

keylargo

YOU HAVEN’T ANSWERED THE QUESTION!!!

WHO PLAYS CATCHER?

NickB

July 1st, 2012
10:16 pm

If i was Larussa, they’d get 3 Innings of Dickey, then 2 innings of Cain, then closers all the way in after that

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
10:16 pm

Stop screaming

NickB

July 1st, 2012
10:16 pm

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
10:17 pm

Outside of May, July looks like BMac’s best month. Highest SLG in July overall, and 2nd highest batting avg comes in July (highest comes in May)

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=mccanbr01&year=Career&t=b#month

Look for Danny to step it up in July and August

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=ugglada01&year=Career&t=b#month

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
10:17 pm

Now that makes sense, Nick, thank you

Jake W.

July 1st, 2012
10:17 pm

Not pretty numbers from guys that were/are hitting 3/4 in the lineup. Not even 4/5 or 5/6 is this okay. Someone’s gotta pick it up soon. I bet Dan does first, he’s shown it earlier this year. BMac needs to bring back his mojo.

I was saying earlier that some of the vets aren’t doing their part and that hurts just as much if not more than the young ones and their ups and downs. If Frank Wren can solidify the pitching, hopefully those guys with the bats turn it around and hit like they did for the first month of the season when this lineup looked real deep.

keylargo

July 1st, 2012
10:19 pm

Nick – I said in the first post that we could get two starters in trade for McCann and have $13 M in salary to sign other players. Ross’ catching partner could come from that pool.

Trey

July 1st, 2012
10:20 pm

At least we have Kimbrel in the ASG. He absolutely deserves it.

Venice Jim

July 1st, 2012
10:20 pm

Add Uggla and Furcal to those 3 and the National League fans really look like idiots

Exactly – it gets old scrolling through all the second basemen when checking out the listings of stats every day…

Mark

July 1st, 2012
10:20 pm

I wish we’d bring Constanza back unless he is hurt or gone and send Francisco packing. Bring Pastornicky back up and send Wilson packing. Give Venters a break b/c something is wrong with him and it isn’t mechanics. He has a dead arm compared to the first 2/3rds of last year. They abused him with overuse.

We can’t let Mac go b/c we don’t have anyhting nearly as good. He’ll be ok again. He is a battler and has had some eye and injury issues. Sometimes we don’t know what we have until its gone. Mac is good! If I were Mac I’d want to be traded to the Yanks. Short porch in right and they’d love him there.

Uggla needs to go. Try and talk some dumb GM into taking an All-Star in a trade.

Trade Bourn and get as much as we can from a contender.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
10:23 pm

Mark

how did I know you’d be one of those Constanza people

he hits worse than Francisco, and has no power, pass, let him stay in AAA where he belongs

Jake W.

July 1st, 2012
10:24 pm

Hawks may find a taker for Joe Johnson, with that contract thought it would be impossible to trade him.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
10:24 pm

keylargo

there are no catchers to be gotten that will hit as good as Mac that will cost less than Mac….. that’s the problem

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
10:25 pm

“NickB

July 1st, 2012
10:16 pm
If i was Larussa, they’d get 3 Innings of Dickey, then 2 innings of Cain, then closers all the way in after that”

That’s a good idea, IMO.

Venice Jim

July 1st, 2012
10:25 pm

So, Mark, who do you envision playing 2nd?

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
10:26 pm

Don’t say Mac to the Yanks! McFann would freak…..

Anyways, I don’t see a reason to dump BMac right now, or even next year (unless for some reason, next year, we’re way out of it and can get a massive haul in return). Just give him his option (though giving 12 million to guy who’s hitting this poorly might seem silly, he can’t stay this bad) and see what next year holds. If he plays too well to price himself out of our range, so be it. If he plays poorly again, he’s gone.

However, I don’t see that happening. I (hope) and think he hits .275 next year, with decent defense, and be worth about 12-14 million for at most 4 years. No more than that, IMO.

Venice Jim

July 1st, 2012
10:26 pm

30 years ago Linda Purl was much younger…

NickB

July 1st, 2012
10:27 pm

MIB

I reckon it’ll throw the hitters off, 3 innings of knuckleball followed by power pitching followed by extreme power pitching

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
10:29 pm

McFann isn’t the only one who would be upset about trading BMac to the flippin’ Yankeees!!! Second worst trade in Detroit Tigers history was Granderson to the Yankees!!

Mark

July 1st, 2012
10:29 pm

Constanza can run and create excitement. We usually do pretty well when he is in the lineup too. I know you are a stat guy. I wonder what our record is when he starts last year and this. Francisco fits the bill for the lazy looking, no fielding, can’t run the bases ball player.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
10:30 pm

“NickB

July 1st, 2012
10:27 pm
MIB

I reckon it’ll throw the hitters off, 3 innings of knuckleball followed by power pitching followed by extreme power pitching”

That’s my thinking too!

Venice Jim

July 1st, 2012
10:31 pm

I have yet to find a correlation between the times when I get excited and the Braves win…

keylargo

July 1st, 2012
10:31 pm

I’ll just drop it NickB if you have nothing better than that to contribute. Mac with his .226 average , 6 something OPS is the best .. yeah, I want to continue talking to someone who believes that.

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

July 1st, 2012
10:32 pm

Yeah, if our GM traded BMac to the Yankees, he might have a riot on his hands…

Oh, and he’d have to change his last name. No one who’d trade BMac to any team, especially the Yankees, should be allowed to own the name “Wren”…

Mark

July 1st, 2012
10:34 pm

There are several out there I’d prefer over Uggla and they cost a lot less.

If we couldn’t get another one I’d rather put Prado back there and let Diaz/Constsanza play left. The problem then becomes who plays 3rd all the days Chipper will be out hurt.

Maybe the trade for Uggla could get us at least a backup 3B.

Mark

July 1st, 2012
10:36 pm

Jim

I was speaking about speed. It makes it a lot more fun than sitting back watching some of these slow pitch softball swings. Speed creates problems for the opposition is all I was referring to

NickB

July 1st, 2012
10:37 pm

keylargo

I didn’t say “the best’ but I did say that he is contributing more than the avg catcher is with the bat.

and you still haven’t mentioned ONE SINGLE NAME that the Braves could get, who would hit better and cost less.

why would I want to continue to talk to someone like that?

Venice Jim

July 1st, 2012
10:37 pm

Some people hate Mac – for those who do, how can we argue with their ability to throw him under the bus when perhaps there is the slightest chance he might redeem himself…they are working on cold, hard stats and refusing to recognize the possibility that they can be reversed…

NickB

July 1st, 2012
10:39 pm

2 things that good GM’s never do:

create a need when there isn’t one

trade young prospects that aren’t blocked

dookie breath

July 1st, 2012
10:39 pm

Braves done messed up hiring Fredi G. to run the club. Dude sticks his nose where it don’t belong at least once a game.,

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
10:40 pm

If the Braves want to BMac, trade him to the Tigers!!!! :)

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
10:40 pm

another golden nugget from the mind of the great VJ

Venice Jim

July 1st, 2012
10:41 pm

Have to get on base to use the speed – I think your ability to totally disregard what Uggla brings to the team is shortsighted (given the unfortunate frequency of his horrendous slumps)…

Mark

July 1st, 2012
10:41 pm

I’m not sure about much but I guarantee everyone that Mac will not be traded. He will be the face of the Braves after Chipper is gone.

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

July 1st, 2012
10:41 pm

Yeah, the BMac haters—I don’t know what he did to possibly deserve half of what they dish out to him. Unless he killed their dogs? I don’t know…he likes dogs a lot, so that seems unlikely…

Anyway, I’m out before he tries to explain his distain to me. Been a pretty crummy day, so I don’t really need that…

Night, all.

Venice Jim

July 1st, 2012
10:42 pm

On the positive side, Dodgers up 8-3…

nolie

July 1st, 2012
10:43 pm

hope the Mac haters don’t hold their breath till that trade

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
10:43 pm

NickB, that is why I think Wren will go as hard as he can after Greinke. See he won’t need to trade a lot at all to get him, I don’t imagine, and will have money to sign him long term if the price is within reason. Again, Greinke grew up a big Braves fan, and that could automatically put us in the advantage against a team like the Yankees, etc.

We get him.

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
10:43 pm

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
10:43 pm

Goodnight, McFann – and he didn’t do anything to deserve it

Mark

July 1st, 2012
10:45 pm

Jim you are probably right. I cant stand his up and down play because it is mostly down. SOOOOOO many times he is up with runners on and we get nothing but Ks. Any idea what his average has been since he came to us?

dookie breath

July 1st, 2012
10:45 pm

“hope the mac haters don’t hold their breath till that trade”

Would u like me to hold mine?

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
10:47 pm

Actually, nolie, don’t you hope they do? :)

Nick

July 1st, 2012
10:47 pm

The Braves should be in SELL mode. They are a mediocre team. At the end of the year, they will either be barely over .500 or barely under .500. They aren’t better than the Nats, Mets. Giants, Reds, Pirates, etc. McCann should be sent to an AL team. I’m sure some team like the Tigers would part with some good prospects for Mac. At this point in his career, he is a liability behind the plate and his offense is easily replaceable. Bourn and Uggla would bring in good hauls as well. Others I would try to trade would be Venters, CMart, Ross, Hinske, Diaz, Minor, Delgado, and Teheran. This team needs to build around Simmons, Heyward, Prado, Freeman, Kimbrel, Hanson, Beachy, Vizcaino, Medlen, etc.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
10:48 pm

Chatttown

I think so to, I think it costs us Minor or Delgado and a B prospect, maybe a throw in low level guy too, I really wouldn’t mind adding K-rod to bolster the pen too, but I doubt that happens.

let’s hope Sheets finds the Magic as Greinke,Hudson,Hanson,Sheets,JJ sounds pretty nasty to me

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
10:48 pm

Mark:

BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+
.234 .328 .441 .769 107

But keep in mind, he had a horrible 2 months to start his season, he worked up from .172 to .233 last year. Hit almost .300 from July 5 IIRC

Again, Greinke grew up a big Braves fan,

Oh, really? I didn’t know that…. It might give us an advantage, but Fredi will screw up and jinx us from getting him roll:

Venice Jim

July 1st, 2012
10:49 pm

Would u like me to hold mine?

After the garlic, absolutely yes…

NickB

July 1st, 2012
10:50 pm

lol, is that some guy being silly there? or does the other NICK really want to trade all of our young pitching, and half of the rest of the team?

monty

July 1st, 2012
10:50 pm

I bet John Smoltz could still throw 91, but his arm would fall off.

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
10:50 pm

Nick, I will rip my foot off in your stinky ass! Go to bed you miserable little shyt.

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
10:51 pm

Another chicken nugget from the mind of the great Nick

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
10:51 pm

C-Mart, Ross, Hinske, and Diaz aren’t very tradeable IMO, unless you just want to get rid of them (cash drops) and get back A-ball players.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
10:52 pm

John Smoltz has finally gotten to a place in his life when he won’t insist on trying anymore, I think – and it took a lot for him to get there! :)

Mark

July 1st, 2012
10:52 pm

So counting the stretch last year, that short stretch when he was hot,and considering that hes at .234 or so this year, he has hit .234 for a year and a half?

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
10:53 pm

Nick is bringing stupid nuggets….

NickB

July 1st, 2012
10:54 pm

i like how it’s a “little stretch”

your fixation on Uggla is darn near pathological

Venice Jim

July 1st, 2012
10:54 pm

Apparently, he likes us a lot better than he did a while back, so we must applaud his conversion:

Nick
March 6th, 2012
2:30 pm
This Braves team will lose 100 games. Bad starting pitching, bad relief pitching, horrible offense, nonexistent bench, worst manager in baseball, bad GM, and terrible ownership. This team has become pathetic and embarrassing.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
10:55 pm

And so I await jeffrey d’s never ending words of wisdom when he isn’t speaking in math talk? :)

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
10:55 pm

Smoltz has just found another way to promote himself is why he’s content with leaving the game. Books, next will be a self made statue of himself in front of Turner Field.

Love ya Smoltzie!

monty

July 1st, 2012
10:56 pm

I like Chipper better when he doesn’t put the blame on the young guys. Seems to me Simmons made the game close yesterday, and FF made it a game today for awhile. Heyward been carrying most of the offense lately. MBAC,UGGLA,CHiPPER, not so much. Young pitchers have been inconsistent, but if those old guys had been performing lately, they might of had different outcomes.

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
10:57 pm

Yes, Mark…. If I counted from when his hitting streak started, he’d probably be near .245-.250

nolie

July 1st, 2012
10:57 pm

you got a point there MIBF ;)

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
10:57 pm

CTB is Jeffreyd! Who knew? :)

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
10:58 pm

You mean that “little stretch” of 72 games where Uggla was hitting the crap out of the ball? Yeah, that’s nothing compared to this humongous 3 week stretch where he’s been struggling.

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
11:00 pm

Though, it wasn’t a little stretch, he did it for 75 games

BA OBP SLG OPS BAbip
.301 .386 .596 .982 .337

with 24 HR, 11 Doubles, 53 RBI, 35BB, 79 SO, and only 5 DPs grounded into.

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
11:00 pm

And so I await jeffrey d’s never ending words of wisdom when he isn’t speaking in math talk?

I’ve spoken math like, twice this year.

CTB is Jeffreyd! Who knew?

I didn’t….They sure had me fooled!

B_F 54

July 1st, 2012
11:00 pm

Lets get on a roll Bravos and silence the nabobs

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
11:00 pm

Well, math that isn’t related to basebal, that is

Nick

July 1st, 2012
11:01 pm

Can any of you honestly say you think the Braves will win the World Series this year? Didn’t think so. What about in the next 3 years? Didn’t think so. Sometimes I think Braves fan only care about getting drunk and doing the chop. Nobody cares about winning anymore. Why be satisfied with a winning record or making it to the playoffs once in 6 years?

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
11:03 pm

Uggla had a 2.5 month hitting tear last year, plus 2.25 months of hitting this year. Tale that against 3 weeks of struggles this year, and 2 months of struggles last year.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
11:03 pm

Oh no, math and baseball are totally unrelated . . . . :)

nolie

July 1st, 2012
11:03 pm

while Freeman,Heyward and Simmons are doing well now, for a large part of the season they have been very inconsistent (Pastor instead of Simmons obviously) they have caused a lot of the early problems of long losing streaks, when Prado,Bourn and Uggla were doing very well. The young pitchers have been very inconsistent too. hopefully that will all improve as the kids get more playing time, but as the crap about Uggla votes shows there are a whole passel of folks here with damn short memories. coupla weeks seems to be the limit on the best of then, a few days on the worst….

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
11:04 pm

Sometimes I think Braves fan only care about getting drunk and doing the chop.

Can’t drink here, buddy ;) Anyways, playoffs are a gamble, you just do your best to get in. We have a great chance to get in the playoffs.

Venice Jim

July 1st, 2012
11:04 pm

Nick – could you have said last year the Cardinals would? Crawl back in your hole and suck on your toenails, you sarphologistic gernomial…

NickB

July 1st, 2012
11:04 pm

no way to tell, any team that makes the WC can win it all, it’s a crap shoot at that point

monty

July 1st, 2012
11:06 pm

When is the last time theYankies won a series? Guess no one cares over there. Maybe they should spend more dough, that will show they care.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
11:07 pm

Flippin Cardinals and flippin Marlins – that’s why they changed the rules to make it harder for a WC team to win!

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
11:07 pm

You had me unti sarphologistic

NickB

July 1st, 2012
11:08 pm

MIB

I must admit , the only thing I like about the extra WC games is it forces them to use their best pitchers giving some advantage to the division winners again. I always thought that the wildcard should have no home games or something

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
11:09 pm

Poor Tom Cruise – three divorces now.

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
11:10 pm

I may have 99 problems but the Braves ain’t 1….

Mark

July 1st, 2012
11:12 pm

To me Uggla is our most glaring problem. He is suppose to be the cleanup hitter. He hovers around .235 counting his few hot streaks. Thats poor and as fans we aren’t helping if we accept such mediocrity.

Last year, and I may be crazy for suggesting it, but people were all over Nate McOut and Scott Proctor or whatever his name was. The cities that are known for having hard to please fans usually do well. In ATL we are guilty at times of just accepting all the post game excuses…

I don’t know. Just want them to do well and we have too many glaring holes. Sometimes we expect these owners and gms to treat teams like retirement plans and play it safe and hold guys for the future. Well, that hasn’t worked real well. We have one title. I know ownership and lack of money plays a huge part but crap fire…

The Marlins catch a lot of grief from some for selling off teams after they go out and get players and win. Well, at least they went and got what they needed and won and how much worse off are they now than the conservative hold on to every prospect for the future Braves.

Save the Stupid Texeira trade when did the Braves last go out and really try to do something to win?

Trey

July 1st, 2012
11:12 pm

jeffrey, me too. I couldn’t even find it on google.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
11:13 pm

Nick – I wish they had that rule before the Braves had to deal with the dang Marlins and Eric’s strike zone!! 1997!

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
11:14 pm

I must admit , the only thing I like about the extra WC games

Game…lol, I agree with you, makes both managers have their pitchers on short leases, likely causing them to use more pitchers. The fact that it’s only 1 game is stupid though.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
11:15 pm

If they were going to add a “round” add a round, not a 1-game playoff. That’s not a “round”!

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
11:16 pm

whoa…VJ’s smarter than Google?

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
11:16 pm

Oh good grief!!!! Lol! :)

Bravo Nam

July 1st, 2012
11:17 pm

DOB

Wonderful, wonderful song choice. Great song and extremely underrated band… thanks for this choice.

nolie

July 1st, 2012
11:17 pm

if he meant sophrology, its a series of mental exercises that supposedly reduce stress. and relaxes you.. studied it a bit when working on my masters. If that ain’t what he meant then I got no clue either

B_F 54

July 1st, 2012
11:18 pm

Ithink he said he is lacking funtional brainwaves

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
11:18 pm

Stop obsessing over every thing he flippin’ posts, grow up, get a life! :)

nolie

July 1st, 2012
11:19 pm

sounded meaner than that though, didn’t it??

Bravo Nam

July 1st, 2012
11:19 pm

Venters needs to “do a Jurrjens” and be sent down to the minors to get his game back.

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
11:19 pm

What if it means something good? Like maybe VJ was noting that Nick was an exceptional dancer

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
11:20 pm

“Bravo Nam

July 1st, 2012
11:19 pm
Venters needs to “do a Jurrjens” and be sent down to the minors to get his game back.”

Agreed.

nolie

July 1st, 2012
11:21 pm

Jimmy got game already

Mark

July 1st, 2012
11:22 pm

Venters is done. You don’t go to the minors to learn to throw 97 again.

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
11:23 pm

If they were going to add a “round” add a round, not a 1-game playoff. That’s not a “round”!

This. That. And The Other. Who really thought that this setup made any sense???

NickB

July 1st, 2012
11:24 pm

Mark

where is this evidence f 97?

you just blurt stuff out and say it’s a fact don’t you

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
11:26 pm

Jonny’s control is the issue. And it is a big problem at the major league level.

Mark

July 1st, 2012
11:28 pm

Nick

I watched them play all last year and the only evidence I have is after every pitch I look to see the mph differential. Thats all I have. I know you don’t agree with it and thats fine. It really is but he threw harder last year.

Bravo Nam

July 1st, 2012
11:29 pm

Even talented pitchers like Venters get their mechanics, confidence or whatever it may be out of whack. It’ll be important for the Bravos later in the season, especially if they make the playoffs, to bring in a guy they can count on… hopefully for Venters in the low pressure environment of the minors it will help him get his game sorted.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
11:29 pm

TOBF – the same people that thought home field for the WS should be decided by a vote that allowed Melky to be a starter!!!

NickB

July 1st, 2012
11:30 pm

Jonny Venter’ss avg fastball velocity :

2011: 94.7

2012: 93.4

avg sinker velocity:

2011:94.9

2012:94.0

avg slider velocity

2011: 86.1

2012: 85.5

his velocity is down about 1 mph, I reckon it’s due to mechanics or soreness or something, but it isn’t some drastic velocity change we should all be concerned about

source: http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=7175&position=P

scroll down to pitch/fx velocity

Capt.Mudd

July 1st, 2012
11:30 pm

San Diego player gets two homers on first and second MLB at-bats.

ChattTownBrian

July 1st, 2012
11:32 pm

Greinke/ Hudson/ Hanson/ Sheets/ Jurrjens

My rotation prediction come Aug 1.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
11:32 pm

Mudd

whats his name?

Venice Jim

July 1st, 2012
11:36 pm

I felt that was the best post I have ever made, and I am made even more sure of that position if people thought that my self-invented words had any possibility of being accepted in anything other than the SAT Books from which I teach the 2400 seeking children of Rancho Palos Verdes…

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
11:38 pm

Never assume you’re going to know what I post before I post it. Never.

Thank you who serve and have served our country in the armed forces! I truly appreciate you and your service!

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
11:40 pm

Cosmically funny, I know :)

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
11:41 pm

Not the last part. Is Timothy Miller on CD or youtube?

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
11:45 pm

I bailed you out didn’t I, VJ?!!

NickB

July 1st, 2012
11:48 pm

just to add fuel to the Uggla fire

between July 1st of 2011 and May 31st of 2012 Uggla hit .281

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
11:49 pm

Thank you, NickB! I won’t forget that!

Venice Jim

July 1st, 2012
11:49 pm

MCFANN!!!! I know you are not here now, but I have to share something from the LA Times Crossword Puzzle today that relates to our movie that was on earlier today…

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
11:49 pm

That was a useless .281 Nick :roll:

NickB

July 1st, 2012
11:50 pm

Venice Jim

July 1st, 2012
11:56 pm

When it comes to useless additions to the blog, I like to think that I have done more than my fair share over the past 5 years

Venice Jim

July 1st, 2012
11:56 pm

And with that, I am off to prepare for a couple of relatively full days of work for a slacker like me before what will be a rare complete day off on Wednesday…

David O'Brien

July 1st, 2012
11:59 pm

Meant to put this stat in blog earlier today:

Strasburg is 2-3 with a 4.26 ERA in five starts against the Braves, and 13-4 with a 2.43 ERA in 28 starts vs. everyone else.

MIBravesFan

July 2nd, 2012
12:00 am

Take care, VJ

MIBravesFan

July 2nd, 2012
12:01 am

That’s an encouraging stat, DOB!

Trey

July 2nd, 2012
12:04 am

Nolie, that is the word that came up.

Trey

July 2nd, 2012
12:06 am

Have a good night, VJ.

MIBravesFan

July 2nd, 2012
12:08 am

I’d love to know what word. For some silly reason I feel like I’m in the middle of a Stevie Nicks song, and I’m so not her! I love some of her songs, though!

Dadgum.......

July 2nd, 2012
12:12 am

Not sure about y’all but I’m not falling for Ben Sheets as the missing rotation piece. Not one bit. The Braves don’t have one pitcher on the current roster that is a bona fide #1 rotation starter. Sheets, while I don’t mind the signing as say a #5 starter, certainly isn’t a #1 type any more. I’m not buying into it. You shouldn’t either.

NickB

July 2nd, 2012
12:14 am

dadgum

he hasn’t been picked up to be a #1, he’s been picked up as a low risk/high reward piece of the puzzle, by no means are the Braves done acquiring starters

MIBravesFan

July 2nd, 2012
12:16 am

I don’t think anyone is “buying into” Sheets as #1, Dadgum! That’s not what anyone hopes he will do. I’d be thrilled if he can be #4!

And if anyone on this blog has something they want to say to me, open your pie hole and say it!!@

Dadgum.......

July 2nd, 2012
12:18 am

Oh yeah, the summer college wood bat games were around Lexington and Thomasville, NC this weekend. Awesome. Got some great que at Lexington BBQ again. Their slaw is awesome too. Owner says he uses the same vinegar based ingredients for seasoning the slaw as he does the pork. Why not. Always worth the stop if you are trekking up 85. Solid.

ChattTownBrian

July 2nd, 2012
12:18 am

An outing like Hudson had today, in what I consider a pretty big game, had to widen the eyes of the Braves that a true ace type guy is much needed. I think Tommy can be that guy in some time, but he isn’t that right now. To hang with those Nats they do need a Greinke type. Maybe he isn’t Verlander, but you put him with what we have and he’s close to it, imo.

ChattTownBrian

July 2nd, 2012
12:20 am

MIBravesFan, pie hole wide open … what’s up?

NickB

July 2nd, 2012
12:22 am

don’t forget to go vote for Chipper for the ASG!!

Dadgum.......

July 2nd, 2012
12:24 am

Oh…. Well not what Wren is saying about it. Says he hopes this is what the rotation needs. If he progresses from Mississippi that is. Wren is projecting him into the rotation within 3 weeks. Hey, I ain’t making it up. Frankly I just heard about the signing and was reading what was posted about the signing. Wren seemed content that Sheets was the missing piece we needed.

MIBravesFan

July 2nd, 2012
12:25 am

CTB – no one is Verlander, and the Braves can’t have him! Maybe Zach G will work out for the Braves, that would be good. Just being cranky, CTB! Take care!

Trey

July 2nd, 2012
12:26 am

IMO, Sheets would be better than Mike Minor in the rotation.

MIBravesFan

July 2nd, 2012
12:29 am

Voting for Chipper both early and often and non-stop is not only legal, it’s fair and it’s the right thing to do! Just IMO!

Dadgum.......

July 2nd, 2012
12:30 am

Trey , I agree Sheets would be a great 4-5 slot guy if he can progress through a couple of weeks in Pearl. Can’t imagine a total resurrection for him but a great pick up.

NickB

July 2nd, 2012
12:33 am

according to mlb trade rumors , and DOB, Braves are in on most of the top arms available…. so I see nothing that says FW is content with Sheets

Trey

July 2nd, 2012
12:48 am

Nick, I don’t either. I just think he will be good to replace Minor with, then we can get another top pitcher, get rid of Delgado and throw another pitcher in there.

MIBravesFan

July 2nd, 2012
12:50 am

“I was so much older then, I’m younger than that now” – does anyone write lyrics that now? I love U2 and I love Bruce, and I’m not sure anyone writes lyrics like that now http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4UcaLHaabY

NickB

July 2nd, 2012
12:53 am

Trey

I see now reason to “get rid of “Delgado, he’s pitched pretty darn well for a 22 yr ld

MIBravesFan

July 2nd, 2012
1:19 am

Nick – sorry I’m late with this. My late mom’s favorite song by her favorite singer – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qoymGCDYzU

Trey

July 2nd, 2012
1:22 am

He has his good days, Nick, but if we do get someone better, if the scuttlebutt is true, then I see no problem of replacing him.

Trey

July 2nd, 2012
1:23 am

Just my two cents.

MIBravesFan

July 2nd, 2012
1:29 am

Thanks, Trey, for your service to our country and for contributions to the blog!

MIBravesFan

July 2nd, 2012
1:35 am

I look God awful, don’t I? I’m misinterpreted and look like someone I’m so not. But that’s funny. Because that’s the point. But not in jeffrey d’s way. Entirely different point/way.

MIBravesFan

July 2nd, 2012
1:37 am

Trey

July 2nd, 2012
1:42 am

Thank you, MIBravesFan. :)

MIBravesFan

July 2nd, 2012
1:52 am

Trey – I’m not sure if you mean for 1:29 or 1:37. 1:37 was worth a lot more than 1:29. :)

Powder Blue

July 2nd, 2012
1:54 am

The Braves love scrapheap reclamation projects.

MIBravesFan

July 2nd, 2012
1:58 am

I never know when to shut up do I?! Trey’s last word was a really nice word, and I had to go and ask a question, and open the floor up!

Waffle House or Bust

July 2nd, 2012
2:02 am

nolie – I might not be a “baseball expert” but you have to admit I predicted this series right. Check my post on Friday before game one. I nailed it and this only makes you guys hate me more. Ha!

Sorry if I know this manager and team better than 99% of you on this blog. Wake up people!

MIBravesFan

July 2nd, 2012
2:18 am

I’ve loved this song since I heard way back in the 70s – some of you are going to just so not like it, but “yada, yada, yada” – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjT2xhMnzzE

NickB

July 2nd, 2012
3:57 am

waffle

ooooooo, you looked at the pitching matchup and probably though” Minor and Delgado will win and Hudson will pull one out for us”

making predictions doesn’t make you an expert on anything, it makes you lucky.

Ward

July 2nd, 2012
4:01 am

Hello everyone! Not a bad signing for Ben Sheets. Hope it works well. Waffle you claim to know 99% more than us. How about 99% BS……..Dude you do nothing but complain , and you complain about just every thing……. I think your Waffles just dried up dude…..

Ward

July 2nd, 2012
4:24 am

All, have a good one, Braves will get the Cubs in the next series. Let’s hope Wren, has some thing going…… Like a possible trade with Cubs…..”Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!” You wont see me on much! The 4th of July is coming up. All Be cool, and Peace my friends……

haggard

July 2nd, 2012
4:36 am

Mornin’ David O’Brien

Upon getting in late / early and taking a large sample size of many of the comments on the blog, I was a little surprised to see the lack of folks commenting on your question. Of course, spotting the Nationals an early four run lead will put a damper on much congenial, in-game conversation.

At any rate, my initial reaction to your question was to answer, “No. Even if he plays in every remaining game of the season, (84, for a total of 109), he won’t have enough time to amass the heavy stats needed to oust Harper or the Miley kid from Arizona with his 9-4 record and sub 3.00 ERA”.

Then I stopped myself, suddenly reminded of our own Bob Horner and the ROY voting in 1978.
Horner finished first ahead of Padre Ozzie Smith, who played in 159 games that year and hit .258 with a .311 OBP and 43 RBI. Smith also stole 40 bases in a solid rookie season.

But it was Horner who swayed the vote in only 89 games as he hit .266 / 23 / 63 with a .313 OBP while slugging .539. In addition, he led all NL third basemen in home runs, (Mike Schmidt–who’d averaged 37 home runs the previous four seasons–had an off year with 21). Another plus –in the minds of the voters–might have been his straight jump to the majors after leaving Arizona State.

At any rate, it’ll be interesting to see what Simmons does with the bat during one more swing around the league as the pitchers begin swapping information. And–as recently as 2010, Buster Posey– won NL ROY honors while playing in just 108 games. Maybe the secret is to come along just late enough so your name is fresh in the minds of the voters, yet early enough to not be considered a flash-in-the-pan.

haggard

July 2nd, 2012
4:40 am

MIBravesFan

That’s some kind of good tune; one I hadn’t heard in years. Harold Melvin And The Blue Notes sure baked a groove with that one.

haggard

July 2nd, 2012
4:57 am

Thinking of Chipper and his stats: I hope he can finish his career with that OBP sitting above .400.

richbrave

July 2nd, 2012
5:44 am

DOWN ON THE FARM

GWINNETT

G’Men get the monkey off their backs with a 6-5 win breaking their epic losing streak at 15.

Lead-off LF JOSE CONSTANZA [.310 BA] 2-2, 3 R, 2 BB, 1 SAC.

CF LUIS DURANGO [.275 BA] 1-4, 1 R, 1 SO.

SS TYLER PASTORNICKY [.262 BA] 2-4, 2 R, 2 2B [13], 2 RBI [16], 12 BB, 1 SO, 1 E [5, throwing].

3B JOSH WILSON [.249 BA] 1-4, 1 SO.

C JOSE YEPEZ [.256 BA] 2-4.

DH ERNESTO MEJIA [.300 BA] 1-4, 1 2B [21], 1 RBI [54], 1 SO.

RF FELIX PIE [.289 BA] 2-5, 1 2B [10], 2 RBI [19], 2 SO.

RHSP TODD REDMOND [3.23 BA] 5.2 IP, 7 H, 3 HR, 5 R, 3 ER, 2 BB, 3 SO.

LHRP DUSTY HUGHES [4.00 ERA] 1.1 IP, no-hits, 1 BB.

RHRP BUDDY CARLYLE [W 4-2, 2.25 ERA] 2.0 IP, 2 H, zeros, 1 BB, 1 SO.

So despite three yard-shots by REDMOND, one in combo with an error by PASTORNICKY, the BRAVES finally win.

richbrave

July 2nd, 2012
6:04 am

DOWN ON THE FARM

MISSISSIPPI

The Bandits win 4-1 behind a good start by LUIS AVILAN.

C MATT KENNELLY [.229 BA] 3-4.

LF TIM SMITH [.316 BA] 2-4, 1 R, 1 RBI [13], 1 BB, 1 SB [2].

3B JOE LEONARD [.270 BA] 1-4, 1 RBI [32], 2 SO.

1B JOE TERDOSLAVICH [.310 BA] 1-5, 1 RBI [17], 1 SO.

LHSP LUIS AVILAN [W 3-6, 3.23 ERA] 5.0 ZIP, 1 H, zeros, 4 BB, 5 SO.

Too many BB’s otherwise outstanding.

‘AussieANDY’ RUSSELL [H 3, 2.14 ERA] 1.0 IP, no-hits, 2 BB, 2 SO.

Same as AVILAN. The man from down-under is piling up some nice numbers in MISSISSIPPI.

LHRP CHRIS JONES [3.98 ERA] 1.1 IP, 3 H, 1 R/ER.

LHRP RYAN BUCHTER [H 6, 1.24 ERA] 0.2 IP, no-hits, 1 BB, 1 SO.

Having a breakout year so far. Atlanta can use another LHRP in it’s pen in two years.

RHRP MARK LAMM [SV 9, 2.74 ERA] 1.0 IP, no-hits, 2 BB, 2 SO.

MARK has had a better than bad second season to date. His ERA is slowly coming back down however.

richbrave

July 2nd, 2012
6:05 am

DOWN ON THE FARM

LYNCHBURG

HILLCATS rained out.

Couch Tater

July 2nd, 2012
6:22 am

Two sponsored links at The San Francisco Chronicle when I searched:

1) Shop Ben Sheets! We have all your bedroom needs.
2) Save on Ben Sheets. Free two day shipping at Amazon.

Anyway, here’s some 2010 info on that cheap ho…

The day it was announced that Stephen Strasburg will probably need Tommy John surgery, Ben Sheets visited the A’s clubhouse and said, “I wish that’s all I had.”

Sheets, 32, actually had three procedures performed during his Aug. 9 surgery. Along with the Tommy John surgery – in which a tendon from his hamstring was inserted into his elbow to reconstruct the ulnar collateral ligament – he also had had the flexor and pronator tendons in his elbow repaired.
http://www.sfgate.com/default/article/Ben-Sheets-has-Stephen-Strasburg-beat-on-injuries-3254982.php

richbrave

July 2nd, 2012
6:24 am

DOWN ON THE FARM

ROME

GREG ROSS and the ROMANS get taken to the wood-shed by the INTIMIDATORS 9-3.

Lead-off CF TONY MUELLER [.278 BA] 1-5, 1 R, 1 SO.

LF ROBBY HEFFLINGER [.235 BA] 0-1, 1 R, 3 BB, 1 SO, 1 SB [2].

DH WIL SKINNER [.261 BA] 1-4, 1 RBI [29].

3B KYLE KUBITZA [.258 BA] 1-4, 1 RBI [40], 1 SO, 1 CS [9], 2 E [16, throwing, fielding].

Glove and bat pretty bad so far this season.

1B ‘BillyBECK’ BECKWITH [.297 BA] 1-4, 2 SO.

Rook ROSS HEFFLEY [.237 BA] 1-4, 1 2B [2], 1 SO.

All three rookie bats [HEFFLEY, ANSELMENT, CLABOUGH] continue to slumber at the plate.

RHSP GREG ROSS [L 1-6, 5.52 ERA] 6.0 IP, 8 H, 8 R, 5 ER, 2 Bb, 5 SO.

RHRP WILSON RIVERA [3.95 ERA] 2.0 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 3 SO.

RHRP IAN MARSHALL [3.94 ERA[ 1.0 IP, pristine, 1 SO.

Rookies ALEX WOOD and DAVIS PETERSON have not had their respective ERA’s dented to date.

richbrave

July 2nd, 2012
6:44 am

DOWN ON THE FARM

DANVILLE

D-BRAVES whip the ROYALS 7-3

RHSP FRANK LaFRENIERE [1.84 ERA] 4.2 IP, 5 H, 3 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 3 SO.

Our 2010 47th rounder continues to hang in.

LHRP CARLOS ‘Wild-thang’ PEREZ [W 1-1, 3.86 ERA] 2.1 IP, 2 H, zeros, 1 SO.

‘LOS seems to slowly be righting his listing ship. He gets his first win of the season.

RHRP BRYAM GARCIA [SV 1, 0.00 ERA] 2.0 IP, 2 H, zeros, 1 SO.

CARLOS FRANCO [.278 BA] 2-4, 2 R, 1 3B [2], 1 RBI [3]

1B ARIS ALCANTARA [.342 BA] 3-4, 2 2B [3], 3 RBI [10], 1 SO, 1 SB [4].

C JOSH ELANDER [.333 BA] 1-3, 2 R, 1 3B [1], 1 RBI [4], 1 BB.

RF BLAKE BROWN [.182 BA] 1-4, 1 RBI [6], 1 SO.

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 2nd, 2012
6:57 am

It’s getting so bad, I might need to drop McCann or try to trade him. I need some production on my fantasy team…. any suggestions?

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 2nd, 2012
7:02 am

Pierzynki, Arencibia, Ellis, Doumit or Montero

richbrave

July 2nd, 2012
7:09 am

DOWN ON THE FARM

GCL – ORLANDO

STANKEES best the BRAVES 9-8 in a 20 hit slug-fest with eight errors. Not the cleanest game ever played.

Six pitchers were used.

RHRP PETER MOYLAN started and went one inning without a sniff of a hit, and one SO.

RHRP CLINT WRIGHT followed with a pristine inning of work and one ‘K’.

But RHSP ROBERTO ‘Star’ ESTRELLA [L 0-1, 15.43 ERA] was savaged in his second start of the season for six earned in 1.2 IP. Ugh.

RHRP ELVIN GARCIA [4.05 ERA] was much improved over his predecessor, but still was dented for two earned in 2.1 IP.

RHRP MADRIGAL AVENDANO [4.50 ERA] 2.0 IP, 0 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 2 SO.

Rookie RHRP BRANDON ROHDE [2.08 ERA] 1.0 IP, pristine, 2 SO.

1B ANTHONY NUNEZ [.364 BA] 1-1, 1 R, 2 RBI [2].

3B SETH MORANDA [.217 BA] 2-3, 1 R, 1 2B [1], 2 RBI [3], 1 BB.

2B LUIS MADRID [.250 BA] 1-4, 1 RBI [1].

Rookie C TYLER TEWELL [.143 BA] 1-2, 1 R, 1 RBI [1], 1 BB.

Rookie RF CONNER LIEN [.261 BA] 1-3, 2 R, 1 RBI [2], 2 BB, 1 SO.

LF JOEY MENSES [.237 BA] 1-5, 2 R, 1 RBI [2], 1 SO.

Rookie DH JACKSON LAUMANN [.275 BA] 1-3, 1 SO.

Ed Goode

July 2nd, 2012
7:28 am

The braves would be in 1st place if they were 1/2 as good as there announces think they are .What a bunch of homers.
Nats fan!

richbrave

July 2nd, 2012
7:48 am

Why am I not all a-twitter that BEN SHEETS is in the house?

richbrave

July 2nd, 2012
7:50 am

The BRAVES would be in first place if they were 6-2 against the NATS.

richbrave

July 2nd, 2012
7:51 am

Hey ED. Be nice or I’ll descend on NATS Park, and eat all the JAMMIN’ BBQ Chicken!

Tomahawkin

July 2nd, 2012
8:04 am

Another Monday Funday For The Braves

Its Imperative that we Go 5-2 the last 7 games’

Take 3 out of 4 from the AAA Iowa Cubs and get some payback for making them look playoff caliber at Wrigley earlier this year, Won’t be easy though because Jeff Samantha always looks like Randy Johnson against us and Cy Maholm Owns Us

Then Finally we need to put a Fatality on the Phillies Season, Make The Big Payback for thie Fans who were Mocking The Chop at CBP last September, Anyone Remember That???

Tomahawkin

July 2nd, 2012
8:06 am

Today Our Reign of Bad Luck on Mondays will end, Watch!

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 2nd, 2012
8:24 am

We will win on Mondays from here on out!

Tomahawkin

July 2nd, 2012
8:27 am

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 2nd, 2012
8:24 am

“We will win on Mondays from here on out!”

I like that proposal…

And WTF I turn it on to 680AM This Morning and there is No Rude Awekining??? What Gives?

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 2nd, 2012
8:30 am

Out for the holiday….TRG was just mentioned there’s just about no one in the building

Tomahawkin

July 2nd, 2012
8:41 am

If I’m Not Mistaking Buck and Kincade (Kincade Only) Will be on later as well as Chuck and Chernoff (Matt Chernoff Only)

Kincade by himself is just Flat out Boring, Nothing Worse than a Pro-Philly Moralist doing sports talk down here

Efrim

July 2nd, 2012
8:43 am

Dan Uggla in 1,001 plate appearances as an Atlanta Brave: .233/.328/.440, 107 OPS+

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 2nd, 2012
8:45 am

Dang that’s bad. Guess no sports radio for me today. Though Matt C.isn’t all that bad by himself….

B&K can be bad together, but are horrendous when going solo…. especially Buck. He makes my ears bleed.

Jeff R

July 2nd, 2012
8:46 am

Its Imperative that we [the Braves] Go 5-2 the last 7 games’

Perhaps not imperative, but it would be a good signal.

Efrim

July 2nd, 2012
8:46 am

Freddie Freeman since coming back from the finger injury: .350/.413/.575 in 11 games, 46 plate appearances.

Tomahawkin

July 2nd, 2012
8:52 am

Efrim

“Dan Uggla in 1,001 plate appearances as an Atlanta Brave: .233/.328/.440, 107 OPS+”

Ouch!

And B-Macc Since August of last year has been Awful with the exception of that Slam against Doc Halliday

Jeff R

July 2nd, 2012
8:55 am

Hey, Ed Goode, you’ve got that crummy government building-looking ballpark in DC with not enough parking because the dopes that run things in your fair city wanted to cram everyone onto the Metro – the nation’s failing apart, breaking down subway system. Ain’t it fun after a game being herded like cattle into the dank bowels of the city and shoved into Metro cars like sardines? Ain’t it wonderful smelling all those other sweaty bodies that your packed against for 30-minute ride to the burbs – that is, if there aren’t any delays?

Real treat, huh?

Sorry, Ed. I just had to get that off my chest.

ncscoots

July 2nd, 2012
9:00 am

Freddie Freeman since coming back from the finger injury: .350/.413/.575 in 11 games, 46 plate appearances.

…and we start to get an inkling of Heyward and Freeman together for the coming years. They’ll be worth FA contracts or long extensions, when it comes time.

(With the usual caveats, yada yada yada.)

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 2nd, 2012
9:02 am

Dan Uggla since July 5, 2011 (you know, after his massive and unprecedented struggles ended)

in 152 games
.267/.363 (batting avg./obp) with 104 runs scored, 26 Doubles, 35 HR, 101 RBI 89 BB and 171 SO

Not too bad.

Lew

July 2nd, 2012
9:03 am

What happens if they don’t win 5 of 7? They get thrown out of the league and have to go home for the rest of the season?

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 2nd, 2012
9:05 am

oh, and 148 Hits over 152 games

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 2nd, 2012
9:06 am

ncscoots

July 2nd, 2012
9:07 am

Uggla had a bad month in June. Heyward had a bad month in May. It happens. It’s a mistake to think Uggla is going to go this bad for the entire rest of the season.

Efrim

July 2nd, 2012
9:13 am

…and we start to get an inkling of Heyward and Freeman together for the coming years. They’ll be worth FA contracts or long extensions, when it comes time.

I don’t know, scoots. Heyward has really only had 300 good plate appearances…….and 1,070 bad ones……

Hah! ;)

Efrim

July 2nd, 2012
9:13 am

It’s a mistake to think Uggla is going to go this bad for the entire rest of the season.

Agreed. I was just pointing out what he had done as an Atlanta Brave to this point.

Jeff R

July 2nd, 2012
9:14 am

What happens if they don’t win 5 of 7? They get thrown out of the league and have to go home for the rest of the season?

Yes, Lew. Regrettably, yes. ;)

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 2nd, 2012
9:15 am

It’s a mistake to think Uggla is going to go this bad for the entire rest of the season

This! He’s proven he can hit, he’ll do it again.

Agreed. I was just pointing out what he had done as an Atlanta Brave to this point.

And I was doing my best McFann impersonation and picking out the good stats to make him look better! ;)

Lew

July 2nd, 2012
9:15 am

JeffR- Damn – Hope I can get a refund on my Extra Innings package.

Efrim

July 2nd, 2012
9:17 am

And by Hah! – I was joking. Sort of like to rib people who believe Heyward had two good months in 2010 and that was it.

Just absolutely false when he turned in a 2nd half of .302/.419/.457….

Lew

July 2nd, 2012
9:17 am

Only BRaves – Actually, cherry picking aside, that shows how bad that year beginnibg slump was last year and how good Uggla really has been the past year. I knew the slump had dragged his numbers down, but wasn’t aware of how good he’s been since then.

Jeff R

July 2nd, 2012
9:22 am

To my way of thinking, Uggla is sort of Derrick Lowe (last season excepted). You know what you’re very likely to get with Uggla, season in and season out: .250, 30 HRs, 90 RBIs, and all the other relevant offensive stats.

TennesseePaul

July 2nd, 2012
9:23 am

Freeman since returning from his thumb injury:

_AVG__OBP__SLG__OPS
.350 .413 .575 .988

And in his last…games

_G__AVG__OBP__SLG___OPS
21 .308 .345 .487 0.832
18 .323 .366 .477 0.843
14 .327 .379 .519 0.899
10 .378 .429 .622 1.050
06 .476 .520 .762 1.282

MFin04

July 2nd, 2012
9:24 am

I take it everyone is frantically voting Chipper into the All-Star game this morning? I swear if anyone votes for Bryce “Douche Bag” Harper…we will have words. ;)

Thank you, that is all.

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 2nd, 2012
9:27 am

*gulp* I voted for Bryce….

nah, Chipper all the way

ncscoots

July 2nd, 2012
9:27 am

Hah!

Even overhyped, scrubby busted-prospect losers can throw up an 1100 month at age 22, I guess.

Not.

Jeff R

July 2nd, 2012
9:29 am

I take it everyone is frantically voting Chipper into the All-Star game this morning?

Chipper’s got my very non-consequential Hall of Fame vote. But the All-Star game, well… :)

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 2nd, 2012
9:30 am

Actually, cherry picking aside, that shows how bad that year beginnibg slump was last year and how good Uggla really has been the past year. I knew the slump had dragged his numbers down, but wasn’t aware of how good he’s been since then.

Indeed. And his slump for June dragged it down too.But still, he’s been very good. An OBP about 100 points higher than his batting avg. and a .505 SLG… looks pretty damn good to me. No need to bash this guy.

ncscoots

July 2nd, 2012
9:31 am

Regrettably, yes.

Shoot ‘em. Then hang ‘em. Then burn ‘em. Lousy sodbusters.

Frankie Wren

July 2nd, 2012
9:34 am

that’s not a “bad month”, more of a terrible month. If Uggla had a bad month we probably win a game or two more. Hopefully July is a repeat of 2011

ncscoots

July 2nd, 2012
9:34 am

But the All-Star game, well…

The guy is still hitting .300, after all. Not like this would be a pity vote. An honorarium, maybe, but not an embarassment.