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TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:31 pm

Juan Francisco up to bat. Watch a strikeout here.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
3:32 pm

I have always thought Uggla was a prototypical number 5 hitter

NickB

July 1st, 2012
3:33 pm

if they could teach Francisco to be a bit more patient, he could be a real force, that’s why I think he’s not really cut out for a bench bat, much better off starting at 3rd for a non-contender where he coul develop with more AB’s

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:33 pm

3 pitches, and a K. What did I tell you.

JipWiz

July 1st, 2012
3:33 pm

Jeffreyd
Just tired of having a team with TONS of potential, little results. That is a product of poor management. Look, FG is a great baseball guy, just not the type of guy needed here, he could not develop a consistent winner in the Marlins…who were just as talented as Braves. Just not his team, lots of 6-4 losses, almost got me, put some wins together soon. We need to be trending up…FG has us flat lining, satisfied with almosts and maybe tomorrows.

TuffShhhtuff

July 1st, 2012
3:34 pm

Sans Francisco!

The A Bomb

July 1st, 2012
3:34 pm

His cold zone is ridiculous. You can drive a car through the hole in his swing.

Hoover would have been a great trade piece.

bravesgrl4life

July 1st, 2012
3:34 pm

Thanks, Juan, for that freebie out you just gave them. :roll:

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
3:34 pm

Francisco’s at bats are beyond terrible. Stammen threw one pitch in the strike zone and earned himself a K.

TBbravesfan

July 1st, 2012
3:34 pm

go fatcisco in the dirt

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
3:34 pm

Anyone else still getting crappy reception?

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:35 pm

I have always thought Uggla was a prototypical number 5 hitter

Stats below. He doesn’t do best in the 5 hole (where he does have quite a few ABs) Best spots are #2 and #4

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=ugglada01&year=Career&t=b#lineu

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
3:36 pm

They could use a better bat off the bench then the ones they currently have. All of them are out machines.

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:36 pm

Hoover would have been a great trade piece.

This. We could’ve gotten Francisco on waivers if we really wanted him. The guy is practically worthless right now.

Francisco’s at bats are beyond terrible. Stammen threw one pitch in the strike zone and earned himself a K.

Sad

Ralph

July 1st, 2012
3:37 pm

TheOnlyBravesFan
July 1st, 2012
3:31 pm

And your the captain of the ship.

ncbravesfan

July 1st, 2012
3:37 pm

“FG has us flat lining, satisfied with almosts and maybe tomorrows”

Exactly. I can already hear his “well I’m proud that the boys got back in the game” postgame speech. Sooner or later, you have to actually start winning games and not being satisfied with moral victories.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
3:37 pm

hmmmm, that could be misleading, was he dropped down to 5th during slumps?

I have always found it odd when certain players hit differently in different spots in the order, the job is the same, get on base, hit for power

nolie

July 1st, 2012
3:38 pm

yes unfortunately no patience, poor pitch recognition and several huge holes in his swing. I’m not sure how anybody thinks he has promise as a major leaguer, but in baseball nothing is impossible I guess.

Mark

July 1st, 2012
3:38 pm

One of the Uggla lovers explain to me why he should be viewed as better than Phillips – .288, 10 HR, 46 rbi and only 34 Ks when Uggla is .235, 11 HR, 91 Ks and 51 rbi. Infante is .289, 7 HR, only 35 Ks.

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
3:38 pm

It seems like the Braves have figured out Bryce Harper.

Yogi Berra

July 1st, 2012
3:38 pm

bravesgil4life.. go back and read @ 3:11. Some women !!!

richbrave

July 1st, 2012
3:39 pm

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
3:39 pm

S/O To BraveFanInOk

Whats Happening Chief

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:40 pm

Oh, and Dan’s career line for the month of June…. must struggle alot in June

.236 .327 .469 .796

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
3:41 pm

@ncBravesfan

We should have no problem going 5-2 against the AAA Iowa Cubs and the Scuffling Phillies

No Excuse if we go 3-4

The A Bomb

July 1st, 2012
3:41 pm

Why is it our bench has no HITTERS?

I mean guys who can hit singles, doubles in key situations/

All we have on the bench, it seems is Rob Deers (and Rafael Belliard).

nolie

July 1st, 2012
3:43 pm

Uggla makes fewer outs than Phillips, and outs are the most precious comodity in baseball

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:43 pm

The Nats got Morse for Langerhans?! I liked Ryan while he was here, but what a trade by the Nats! Geez.

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
3:43 pm

Yet another hitter reaches after two quick outs were made. The Braves pitchers must really struggle with their concentration after two outs are made.

richbrave

July 1st, 2012
3:43 pm

TheOnlyBravesFan
July 1st, 2012
3:36 pm

Hoover would have been a great trade piece.

This. We could’ve gotten Francisco on waivers if we really wanted him. The guy is practically worthless right now.

Francisco’s at bats are beyond terrible. Stammen threw one pitch in the strike zone and earned himself a K.

Sad….”

Too many moving parts in that swing. If he hasn’t learned to be still and simplify that swing by now, he prolly never will. Talent can get you to the bigs, but solid mechanics, and brains keep you there.

ncbravesfan

July 1st, 2012
3:43 pm

The same Cubs and Phillies that we are 2-4 against this year? Sure, it’ll be a walk in the park to go 5-2.

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
3:44 pm

Tomahawkin

You know the upcoming stretch of games will be a huge struggle for the Braves.

Tomahawkin

July 1st, 2012
3:44 pm

@The ABomb

It seems like opposing pitchers hit better against us as opposed out Pinch hitters hitting against opposing pitchers?

The A Bomb

July 1st, 2012
3:44 pm

REMEMBER FOLKS: Tomorrow is MONDAY.

TNScott

July 1st, 2012
3:45 pm

That was too close.

nolie

July 1st, 2012
3:45 pm

Vv done good

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
3:45 pm

Hey, it’s Timothy Miller!

NickB

July 1st, 2012
3:45 pm

Mark

because before the slump when the majority of the votes were tallied these were their comparitive numbrs

Uggla- Mar/Apr- .271/.364/.424 3 hR’s ,15 rbis ,16 runs

May- .265/.394/.480 5 HR’s. ,16 rbis, 20 runs

Phillips- Mar/Apr .254/.302/.407 , 2 HR’s, 7 rbi’s, 9 runs

May- .283/.333./415 , 3 HR’s, 18 RBI’s, 17 runs

so you see, Phillips has been better than uggla for June, but Uggla has been better for the prior 9 weeks

bravesgrl4life

July 1st, 2012
3:45 pm

Love hearing Timothy Miller sing God Bless America!

Trey

July 1st, 2012
3:46 pm

Glad to see them enjoying the game.

nolie

July 1st, 2012
3:46 pm

well the votes cast B4 the day of the pick obviously shouldn’t counted…..

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:46 pm

I love that guy’s voice!

ncbravesfan

July 1st, 2012
3:47 pm

“REMEMBER FOLKS: Tomorrow is MONDAY.”

Can we say 41-38, 5 games back?

ncbravesfan90

July 1st, 2012
3:47 pm

Excellent job as usual Timothy Miller! God Bless America!!!!!!

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
3:48 pm

The Braves need to put something together in the 7th with their better players at the plate.

Capt.Mudd

July 1st, 2012
3:49 pm

Excellent rendition of God Bless America!

David O'Brien

July 1st, 2012
3:50 pm

Forgot to give you Hudson’s line: 6 IP, 8 H, 6 R (5 ER), 2 walks, four strikeouts. 60 strikes in 87 pitches.

bravesgrl4life

July 1st, 2012
3:50 pm

Bourn gets the Silver Sombrero today.

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

July 1st, 2012
3:50 pm

Have they even mentioned that Kimbrel made the All-Star team? I mean, they barely pointed out that Uggla made it, Joe went on a tirade about why it shouldn’t be a game that “counts” (which I have to say, I agree with), they told us all the gNats that made it, but that’s been it, I think…

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
3:50 pm

Bourn either has a day with multiple hits or a bad day where he strikes out three times, rarely is there any middle ground. The guy really needs to be more patient at the plate.

Mark

July 1st, 2012
3:50 pm

NickB

Different spots in the order call for different things. Thats why WAR is not good in my opinion. This is a short summary of a lineup.

1. Be able to take pitches, run the bases well, hopefully have speed, strike out rarely, Table setter,
example: Henderson who you would have absolutely loved b/c he walked a lot and hit for power but he got on base a lot, could steal bases
2. Great contact, can bunt, hit and run, put the ball in play. Hit behind runners. Example: Gwynn – Swung and missed rarely.
3. Best hitter – period – Example: Kemp, Aaron, Bonds(even before steroids)…
4. Drive in runs, power. Example – Howardand other big boppers
5. Another 4 just not quite as good usually as the 4.
6 and 7 . The best you got behind the 4 and 5 guys.
8. 2nd leadoff type guy. Hopefully he can get on and run the bases well so pitchers can bunt him over for top of the order.

This is just a summary but a start for someone that doesn’t understand the differences.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
3:51 pm

Has anyone ever noticed how rarely leadoff hitters have excellent OBP’s?

should be the number one priority IMO, but if you take a look, not many have one over .350

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:51 pm

Yeah, Marteeen!!

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
3:51 pm

3 K’s is a hat trick

Bravefaninok

July 1st, 2012
3:51 pm

Teeeeeeeeeeen

bravesgrl4life

July 1st, 2012
3:51 pm

Capt.Mudd

July 1st, 2012
3:51 pm

Prado….really great pro

Yogi Berra

July 1st, 2012
3:51 pm

Good job Prado.. now lets score some runs.

bravesgrl4life

July 1st, 2012
3:52 pm

LAG

July 1st, 2012
3:52 pm

I think the old guys would say of Prado that “his motor’s always running.”

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

July 1st, 2012
3:52 pm

What’s really a shame is my Butterfinger Bites are gone…

cabravesfan

July 1st, 2012
3:53 pm

What’s really a shame is my Butterfinger Bites are gone…

So is my pasta salad :( (and I’m still hungry)

NickB

July 1st, 2012
3:53 pm

Mark

that’s a stupid and outdated idea, hitters should always try to get on base and hit for extra bases, having a different mentality in different spots in the order makes the the assumption that these designated spots ALWAYS face similar situations when they obviously do not. Hitters goal’s should not change based on their assigned order of hitting

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:54 pm

Just missed that, I think

Jerry

July 1st, 2012
3:54 pm

All I can say is, thank you fans for dropping the ball and electing Uggla for the all star game. Another reason why the vote should be taken out of the fans hands And Prado and Bourn sit home. Just great.

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
3:54 pm

At least he moved the runner over.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
3:54 pm

Disgusted

July 1st, 2012
3:54 pm

Timothy Miller is not a good singer at all.

He is a “GREAT GREAT” singer. Atlantans should be proud to call him one if their own.

LAG

July 1st, 2012
3:55 pm

MIBravesFan – Sure looked like it.

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
3:55 pm

That was the Braves last chance.

ncbravesfan90

July 1st, 2012
3:55 pm

Played AB baseball there, just couldn’t get the C.

The A Bomb

July 1st, 2012
3:55 pm

Hard not to appreciate Zimmerman. He’s really fixed himself.

Mitchell

July 1st, 2012
3:55 pm

Why… does he always do that?

bravesgrl4life

July 1st, 2012
3:55 pm

bravesgrl4life

July 1st, 2012
3:55 pm

Uh, LAG, last I saw, we still have 2 innings to play.

TuffShhhtuff

July 1st, 2012
3:56 pm

I think the ladies talking about food while the Braves were batting jinxed them. That’s a “no-no”!

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
3:56 pm

Hard not to appreciate Zimmerman. He’s really fixed himself.

Ouch!

NickB

July 1st, 2012
3:56 pm

one of the bad results of Heywards recent move to hitting more up the middle is that his long fly balls are heading to the deepest parts of the park now

ncbravesfan90

July 1st, 2012
3:56 pm

Yankees acquired RHP Chad Qualls from the Phillies for a player to be named later or cash.

Mark

July 1st, 2012
3:57 pm

Nick

It may be outdated in some peoples mind but your logic and those like you have been tainted by the Steroid, sit back and wait on a HR way of thinking. The Braves are guilty of that. I think thats why we strike out so much and leave so many runners on base also.

The A Bomb

July 1st, 2012
3:57 pm

Throwing jeffrey d. Throwing.

Disgusted

July 1st, 2012
3:57 pm

I have been saying that for years Jerry about the fans voting for the All-Star game.

And in baseball, the game means something. Not like the other sports.

The Pro Bowl is the biggest joke though.

The NHL All-Star game is one where hitting goes on strike.

I do like the NBA ASG out of all of them, its the most entertaining. And its still just an exhibition.

McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:

July 1st, 2012
3:57 pm

cabravesfan So is my pasta salad

Oh, that REALLY stinks. Pasta salads rule…

Tomahawk Mafia

July 1st, 2012
3:57 pm

I disagree with the decision to extend Varvaro an extra inning. He is a one-inning guy and he did his job well in the 7th inning.

Capt.Mudd

July 1st, 2012
3:57 pm

@McFann…re: 3:50 pm post: I haven’t heard a mention of Kimbrel either. If I had to guess, they are saving that for the ninth when odds are he’ll get a chance–certainly one would expect a mention at that time. Regardless, they should advise fans of all Braves selected…..and, what about the producer? He whispers in their ear occasionally too!

Disgusted

July 1st, 2012
3:58 pm

The Phillies taking some baby seller steps.

Moving Thome and Qualls are not the bid deal, I do not know if they are thinking about moving one of the real core players.

richbrave

July 1st, 2012
3:58 pm

DOWN ON THE FARM

MISSISSIPPI

CHATTANOOGA LOOKOUTS once again best the Bandits 8-5 last night.

Lead-off 2B/LF PHILLIP GOSSELIN [.256 BA] 1-4, 1 R, 1 RBI [25], 1BB.

RF KEENAN WILEY [.273 BA] 1-4, 1 R, 1 RBI [20], 1 BB, 1 SO.

1B IAN GAC [.250 BA] 1-3, 1 2B [23].1 SO.

C CHRISTIAN BETHANCOURT [.257 BA] 1-4, 1 3B [1], 3 RBI [14], 2 SO.

SS GREG PAIML [.164 BA] 1-3, 1 R.

LHSP SEAN GILMARTIN [3.64 ERA] 6.0 IP, 7 H, 1 HR, 4 R/ER, 2 BB, 4 SO.

LHRP RYAN BUCHTER [1.27 ERA] 1.0 IP, 1 H, zeros, 1 SO.

RYAN developing nicely, and have a solid year in relief.

RHRP CORY RASMUS [BS 3, L 1-3, 4.26 ERA] 0.1 IP, 3 H, 4 R/ER, 3 BB, 0 SO.

CORY headed in the opposite direction from BUCHTER.

RHRP MARK LAMM [2.81 ERSA] 1.2 IP, 1 H, zeros 1 SO.

MARK having an uneaven year. Needs to be more consistant. Still, he will probably see AAA next season.

cabravesfan

July 1st, 2012
3:58 pm

McFann-

It was really good- home made…

Not nearly enough for lunch though…should really eat more…

jeffrey d

July 1st, 2012
3:59 pm

Throwing jeffrey d. Throwing.

Ah. ;)

usnavyvolfaninva

July 1st, 2012
3:59 pm

Well, clearly the Nationals are the best team in the NL East, and it’s not hard to see why. I really don’t see how the Braves can overcome their shortcomings, but I’ll just say I’m awfully glad there’s two Wildcards spots instead of just one, now.

NickB

July 1st, 2012
4:00 pm

Mark

nope, my numbers are backed up by every high scoring team in the history of the live ball era (post 1920) every team that lead their league in runs scored got on base and hit for extra bases, this moving the runners along stuff is wasteful and a horrible way to score a lot of runs.

Outs are the currency of baseball, and runs are the product, the less outs you spend per run, the more you score and the better your offense will do

cabravesfan

July 1st, 2012
4:00 pm

Disgusted-

Phillies are said to be asking around about interest in Hamels, but the price is looking like 4-5 prospects, including probably 2 high level ones…

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
4:00 pm

all that talk about food made me remember that I was hungry… A (late) lunch feast is coming up!

richbrave

July 1st, 2012
4:00 pm

Has there been a victory on a Monday this season?

Disgusted

July 1st, 2012
4:00 pm

Hudson sucked today. Lousy game giving up 6 R, 5 ER. Not good enough.

Lousy first inning, got the Braves into an immediate hole.

Yogi Berra

July 1st, 2012
4:01 pm

Giants fans got out the vote..joke!
Some others don’t deserve it. Agree disgusted.

Mark

July 1st, 2012
4:01 pm

Yeah thats a real problem for Heyward! Quit worring about the good results of letting the ball get deep and use the whole field. He should take a page out of Uggla and McCanns book and pull everything when you do hit it!!!!!!!!!!!!

That way we can all hit .230

Unreal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TheOnlyBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
4:01 pm

Phillies are said to be asking around about interest in Hamels, but the price is looking like 4-5 prospects, including probably 2 high level ones…

Phillies are crazy. No way can any GM agree to that. No draft compensation, it’d be stupid.

MIBravesFan

July 1st, 2012
4:01 pm

Start R.A. Dickey in the AS Game – that pitch should mess the AL lineup for the entire game! :)

ncbravesfan

July 1st, 2012
4:01 pm

“but I’ll just say I’m awfully glad there’s two Wildcards spots instead of just one, now.”

So the Braves can add to their legacy of postseason failures? This team won’t survive a one-game playoff. Not with Goofy at the helm.

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