Braves get another crack at NL East-leading Nats
As Craig Kimbrel pointed out last night, what made giving up a game-winning homer in the ninth inning against Arizona even harder to take was the fact that the Braves missed an opportunity to pick up a game on the Nationals, who had lost in 11 innings at Colorado before the Braves game began.
Nats rookie Bryce Harper has hit .500 with three homers in his first five games against the Braves.
That meant the Nationals would still be 3-1/2 games ahead of the second-place Braves entering tonight’s opener of a hotly-anticipated – and simply hot, as in blazing hot outside – series against the NL East upstarts from D.C. The temps are expected to soar past 100 this weekend at Turner Field, where the Braves want to cut at least a game or three off Washington’s lead.
It won’t be easy.
Tonight, Randall Delgado (4-8, 4.52 ERA) faces lefty Ross Detwiler (4-3, 3.09), who has an 0.98 ERA and .175 opponents’ average in his past seven outings, including one start after moving back into the rotation from the bullpen. He pitched five scoreless innings of four-hit ball Sunday against Baltimore.
The Braves got to Detwiler for three runs, five hits and four walks in just 4-1/3 innings on May 25 in Atlanta, but the Nationals won that series opener and went on to sweep the three-game series, part of a six-game winning streak against Atlanta that the Braves finally snapped with a June 3 win at Washington.
The Braves are 1-4 against them this season, and have hit .204 with 14 runs in their past seven games against the Nationals. The Braves are 18-27 against the Nats going back to the final week of the 2009 season. The Nats have had the upper hand, regardless of which team was better at the time.
And to make matters worse, the pesky Nats have added a new Braves Enemy No. 1, the ballyhooed rookie outfielder Bryce Harper, who has more than lived up to the hype when facing Atlanta. Harper is 8-for-16 with three homers, six walks, one strikeout and a .636 OBP in his first five games against the Braves.
He has half of the Nationals’ six homers against Atlanta this season, and he’s also made a few strong plays in the field (but also been thrown out a couple of times going for an extra base).
But you know what’s made the Nationals the class of the division so far this season? The factor that we thought coming out of spring would put them in position to compete for a playoff berth this season: Pitching.
Braves rookie shortstop Andrelton Simmons made an acrobatic catch in Thursday's loss.
The Nationals are first in the NL in overall ERA (3.11), first in starters ERA (3.16), and third in bullpen ERA (3.03). Meanwhile, the Braves are tied for ninth in the league in overall ERA (4.01), 12th in starters ERA (4.14) and eighth in relief ERA (3.77).
And in the NL, only Colorado relievers (32) and Houston relievers (29) have allowed more homers than Braves relievers (27).
• Trade talk: Braves GM Frank Wren is sometimes a bit more forthcoming about trade and free-agent matters when speaking with members of the national media, and here’s what he had said in an interview Thursday with MLB Network’s The Rundown program.
On what the Braves might do before the July 31 non-waiver trade deadline:
“We have the flexibility to make a big deal. If one presents itself and we think it can improve our club, we’re gonna be there trying to finish it. I think we have the talent in our minor league system [and] we have the payroll flexibility to make a deal.”
On possibility of re-signing Michael Bourn, who’s eligible for free agency after the season:
“We really would like Michael to be here a long time. He’s proven that he’s the kind of player who fits in well here…He’s a real big part of our team.”
OK, so looking back at that last quote on Bourn, he really didn’t say anything new on that subject.
But the comment about having payroll flexibility echoes what I was told by Braves CEO Terry McGuirk, the direct liason to Liberty Media ownership. McGuirk said Thursday that there is no available player who is out of the Braves’ affordability range, if they decided it was a deal that made sense for the team. That includes the likes of pitcher Zack Greinke, as well as pitchers such as Ryan Dempster and Matt Garza.
At the same time, he and other Braves officials continue to make it clear the Braves aren’t going to overpay for free agents or mortgage the future by trading multiple prospects for a rental player they would only have for the rest of the season.
To me, both of those caveats make it seem unlikely the Braves would deal for Greinke, a pending free agent who would presumably cost the Braves multiple prospects and also cost them around $20 million or more in a long-term contract if they wanted to re-sign him.
Just a hunch or educated guess, and maybe it’ll change with something new I hear in next few days, but to me if Dempster returns from DL and is sound (he had a lat strain, not any arm injury), then he or Garza makes more sense and is more likely. Dempster in particular, because the Cubs would pay part of what he’s owed for rest of the season and he wouldn’t cost nearly as much in the way of talent going to Chicago in a trade, and he has a history with Wren and Fredi Gonzalez from the Marlins.
• Not clutch: When it comes to hitting with runners in scoring position, the Braves now rank 11th in the NL with a .235 average and 14th in slugging at .346. And here’s a stat that’s become alarming: in close-and-late situations, the Braves are 15th in the NL at .207.
They were beaten last night in the ninth inning by the only team that’s been worse in close-and-late situations, the Diamondbacks at .189
Here are the Braves who’ve hit .225 or lower in the late innings of close games: Jason Heyward .225, Dan Uggla .211, Michael Bourn .189, Jack Wilson .176, Eric Hinske .167, Freddie Freeman .161, David Ross .143, Brian McCann .061, and Juan Francisco .000 (0-for-13).
With runners in scoring position, the only Braves who’ve hit above .283 have done it in limited at-bats: Pastornicky (.290 in 31 at-bats), Simmons (.300 in 20 at-bats) and Francisco (.304 in 23 at-bats). Bourn is at .283 (17-for-60, highest among Braves regulars who’ve been with team all season) and Heyward is next at .280 (14-for-50). McCann has hit .182 (12-for-66) with runners in scoring position.
• Ugly stretch for Uggla: After another 0-for with three strikeouts Thursday, Uggla is up to 89 strikeouts, one fewer than NL leader Rickie Weeks and on pace for 192, which would obliterate his career high of 171 set in 2008.
Uggla is mired in a strikeout-littered slump that's put him just one strikeout behind the league leader.
Uggla is 7-for-65 (.108) with two extra-base hits (one homer) and 29 strikeouts in past 20 games, including 4-for-45 (.089) with no extra-base hits, one RBI and 20 strikeouts in his last 13 games. In his past seven home games, he’s 0-for-22 with five walks and 13 strikeouts
He’s also second in the NL in walks with 51, five ahead of No. 3 David Wright (46) but nine behind leader Joey Votto (60). Uggla is on pace for 110 walks, well above his career high of 92 in 2009.
Uggla hasn’t been out of the lineup all season, but Gonzalez has indicated a day off could be coming real soon. Maybe as soon as today. Backup infielder Jack Wilson hasn’t started a game since shortstop Andrelton Simmons arrived from Triple-A, and Wilson is 4-for-5 against Detwiler.
• Delgado tonight: As trade rumors swirl, the Braves are hoping for improvement and more consistency from Delgado. He’s 2-5 with a 5.35 ERA in his past seven starts, with 21 walks and 26 strikeouts in 35-1/3 innings. That includes losses in his past three starts – 0-3 with a 5.65 ERA and .264 opponents’ average in that stretch, with nine walks and 12 strikeouts in 14-1/3 innings.
His longest and briefest starts have come in his past two games — eight innings (three hits, two runs) against Baltimore on June 17, and 1-1/3 innings (six hits, four runs) at Boston on Sunday.
BRAVES LINEUP
- Bourn CF
- Simmons SS
- Heyward RF
- Jones 3B
- McCann C
- Diaz LF
- Freeman 1B
- Wilson 2B
- Delgado P
• Etc.
Chipper Jones has hit in six straight games, going 8-for-21 (.381) with three doubles, a homer, four RBIs, five walks and .500 OBP in that stretch…. Despite having his 12-game hitting streak snapped with an 0-for-5 Thursday, Heyward still has hit .370 in June with a .395 OBP, .716 slugging percentage, 15 extra-base hits (six homers), 14 RBIs and 17 runs in 22 games…. The Braves are 10-15 at home since the beginning of May, including 7-7 since ending their second four-game home losing streak during that stretch. (They also have a four-game home winning streak in that period.)…. Freeman is sixth in NL with RISP and two outs (.393, 11-for-28)…. McCann’s .141 average after the sixth inning is third-lowest in the NL, and his .061 average (2-for-33) in close-and-late situations is the second-lowest among NL qualifiers.
• Let’s close with a tune from the great Polly Jean Harvey, which you can hear by clicking here.
“BIG EXIT” by PJ Harvey
Look out ahead
I see danger come
I wanna’ pistol
I wanna’ gun
I’m scared baby
I wanna’ run
This world’s crazy
Give me the gun
Baby, baby
Ain’t it true
I’m immortal
When I’m with you
But I wanna’ pistol
In my hand
I wanna’ go to
A different land
I met a man
He told me straight
‘You gotta’ leave
It’s getting late’
Too many cops
Too many guns
All trying to do something
No-one else has done
Baby, baby…
I walk on concrete
I walk on sand
But I can’t find
A safe place to stand
I’m scared baby
I wanna’ run
This world’s crazy
Gimme’ the gun
Baby, baby
– David O’Brien, Braves/MIB blog
3,179 comments Add your comment
Venice Jim
June 29th, 2012
3:20 pm
Thanks, DOB!!!
TennesseePaul
June 29th, 2012
3:20 pm
Thanks for the work DOB.
GO BRAVES!!
CrαZy
June 29th, 2012
3:22 pm
Yo… who be dat punk kid at da top of da page….Bro!!
CrαZy
June 29th, 2012
3:23 pm
DOB, What would you say if Brice told you that was a clown question.. Bro!!
Brian from SC
June 29th, 2012
3:23 pm
At one point in probably early May, I specifically remember looking at the splits, and the Braves were leading the NL in batting average with RISP. Shows you how far they have fallen there.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
3:24 pm
Give Uggla today and Sunday off….
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
3:24 pm
“Here are the Braves who’ve hit .225 or lower in the late innings of close games: Jack Wilson .176″
To be honest, that is pretty clutch for Jack Wilson!
Bama Brave
June 29th, 2012
3:25 pm
4th
Bobby H
June 29th, 2012
3:25 pm
Yo… who be dat punk kid at da top of da page….Bro!!
That’s not a very nice thing to say about DOB, CraZy.
CrαZy
June 29th, 2012
3:27 pm
I think it would be perfect if Kaminski the Braves organist played Bozo the clown music for Brice Harper…
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
3:28 pm
Don’t look now but we face:
Lefty, Strasburg, Lefty with Delgado, Minor, Hudson. Could very well be a sweep.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
3:29 pm
Well, looky here, Uggla ain’t the worst in late inning batting avg.
Brian McCann .061, and Juan Francisco .000 (0-for-13).
BMac isn’t clutch, and that batting average for Juan is fairly close to his overall batting average!
phil
June 29th, 2012
3:30 pm
CrαZy
June 29th, 2012
3:18 pm
Maybe I need to move somewhere with better weather!!
I guess I’d have to leave the US since the whole damn country is either 100+ or on fire!!
************
Funny and true!
Brian from SC
June 29th, 2012
3:31 pm
MFin04, you know the Braves as a team have hit righties and lefties almost the exact same, right?
phil
June 29th, 2012
3:31 pm
PJ Harvey….
I’ll pass.
Harper just has the look of someone who will own us for years to come. Can’t wait to enjoy it all!
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
3:31 pm
Mark Teixeira looks like Prince William and that guy from Tears for Fears.
Yes, I’m weird and random. Go Braves
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
3:32 pm
Brian from SC – You know that for years they have struggled against lefties, right?
phil
June 29th, 2012
3:33 pm
Play Uggla since he’s probably the only one who won’t be whining about the heat…
Lord knows what it will do to McCann.
Fish Bisch
June 29th, 2012
3:34 pm
Debtwiller owns us
Venice Jim
June 29th, 2012
3:34 pm
Atlanta Braves @Braves
Tonight’s lineup vs. WSH (7:35, PTV/680AM/BRN): Bourn 8 Simmons 6 Heyward 9 Jones 5 McCann 2 Diaz 7 Freeman 3 Wilson 4 Delgado 1
Brian from SC
June 29th, 2012
3:35 pm
I guess if you think the struggles of Nate McLouth, Jordan Schafer, Yunel Escobar, Omar Infante, and Melky Cabrera against lefties is going to cost the Braves this weekend, more power to ya, I guess.
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
3:36 pm
You can’t make that lineup up? Umm Jack Wilson over Martin Prado? Brilliant.
Disgusted
June 29th, 2012
3:36 pm
Nats probably take this series two out of three. They are the better team.
CrαZy
June 29th, 2012
3:36 pm
Matthew Kaminski @bravesorganist
#Braves vs. #Nationals – “Be a Clown” or Harper Valley PTA for Harper
CrαZy
June 29th, 2012
3:37 pm
Wilson?? He’s still on the team!
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
3:37 pm
Brian from SC – We’ll see, you are right the splits are dead even, but I got a feeling that it may be different with the Nationals two lefties.
manolo
June 29th, 2012
3:37 pm
Wow that 2 for 33 from Mc shows how vulnerable he has become with a lefty specialty on the mound. How anti clutch.
Disgusted
June 29th, 2012
3:37 pm
Those “Not Clutch” stats are ghastly, and one of the reasons why I think we are going to fall short — again. And again and again.
My chrystal ball sez that Uggla will SO over 200 times this yr. Not good.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
3:38 pm
Simmons gets to hit 2nd waay earlier than Rev did…. Heyward, 3rd, Chipper 4, Mac 5…. Unfortunately, McFann gonna like this lineup and that makes me mad!
Harry Schwartz
June 29th, 2012
3:40 pm
FIRST
CrαZy
June 29th, 2012
3:40 pm
Does Fred know were playing the Nats tonight? You know the team in 1st place in our division?
TennesseePaul
June 29th, 2012
3:40 pm
Last 9 Starts of the Starting 9
_________AVG__OBP__SLG___OPS_wOBA_L9S9+
Bourn__ .256 .262 .385 0.647 .272 ___66
Simmons .303 .294 .424 0.718 .332 ___84
Heyward .429 .447 .914 1.362 .548 __240
Chipper .250 .368 .438 0.806 .382 __110
McCann_ .189 .231 .243 0.474 .197 ___25
Diaz___ .176 .200 .235 0.435 .194 ___13
Freeman .286 .342 .429 0.771 .321 __100
Wilson_ .194 .216 .222 0.438 .179 ___15
Delgado .294 .294 .294 0.588 .265 ___55
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
3:41 pm
Wilson gonna go 3-4 tonight, with a double…. Take it to the bank!
Murph
June 29th, 2012
3:41 pm
Holy crap… Fredi is sitting Prado?
WOW.
I don’t mind Simmons hitting 2nd, Heyward hitting 3rd, Chipper hitting cleanup, and all that… but I cannot believe, in a game against the 1st place team in the division, that Fredi is sitting his best hitter.
Boggles ma’ mind.
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
3:41 pm
Hope Prado has a broken leg, swine flu, and got deported. Otherwise…he should be in the lineup. You know the guy who was an ALL-STAR 2nd baseman.
Bat Masterson
June 29th, 2012
3:42 pm
Umm Jack Wilson over Martin Prado?
I don’t want to step on Murph’s turf here, but ……….
I’m gonna hate myself for this
That’s a frown question, bro
Murph
June 29th, 2012
3:42 pm
Wilson gonna go 3-4 tonight, with a double…. Take it to the bank!
Wilson won’t make contact tonight… take THAT to the bank!
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
3:42 pm
Wilson hitting better than Mac in their last 9…. who woulda think it?!
David O'Brien
June 29th, 2012
3:42 pm
Braves lineup: Bourn CF, Simmons SS, Heyward RF, Jones 3B, McCann C, Diaz LF, Freeman 1B, Wilson 2B, Delgado P
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
3:43 pm
“Wilson gonna go 3-4 tonight, with a double”
If we are lucky 0-3 with a sac bunt, or 0-4 moving a runner over.
Juan
June 29th, 2012
3:43 pm
The Braves are playing for a 533% 40 win on 75 Games…..they has to be hot in the next three month or there’re not making the play off…533 is about 86.5 game win of 162.
TennesseePaul
June 29th, 2012
3:44 pm
or 0-4… without any grounding into double plays.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
3:44 pm
Holy crap… Fredi is sitting Prado?
Prado and Uggla get today off. I don’t mind. He might be trying to give 2 guys rest a day this series…
CrαZy
June 29th, 2012
3:44 pm
3 players hitting under .200 in the line up… Damn move Delgado to the 5 hole!!
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
3:44 pm
That whole clown question thing is stupid. I don’t even know what it means. Did he get it from the Tweeter? Because it certainly isn’t English.
Either way, why would you pick Jack Wilson over Martin Prado?
Harry Schwartz
June 29th, 2012
3:44 pm
OBF: “McFann” lolololol!!!
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
3:45 pm
“or 0-4… without any grounding into double plays.”
SOOO Negative!
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
3:46 pm
Hey, I’m trying to be positive over here… we’re missing our great #2 hitter and our cleanup hitter. Wilson’s gonna fill their shoes tonight!
DAM
June 29th, 2012
3:46 pm
Seems a bit odd to rest both Prado and Uggla on the same day, which means we’ll probably go out and score 10.
CrαZy
June 29th, 2012
3:47 pm
I don’t normally complain about lineups, but Fred has me scratching my head quite often?
Efrim
June 29th, 2012
3:47 pm
Braves lineup: Bourn CF, Simmons SS, Heyward RF, Jones 3B, McCann C, Diaz LF, Freeman 1B, Wilson 2B, Delgado P
Sure hope Prado is okay……
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
3:48 pm
I bet tomorrow, Hey and Simmons get to rest, and on Sunday, Mac and Chipper rest.
Bayou Brave
June 29th, 2012
3:48 pm
Brian from SC,
What are the Braves pitchers’ BABIP splits before and after Simmons?
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
3:48 pm
“Seems a bit odd to rest both Prado and Uggla”
Is that because they both are All-Star 2nd baseman in their careers? Can’t make this crap up.
CrαZy
June 29th, 2012
3:49 pm
Did he get it from the Tweeter?
Come on Bro get with the times!!
monty
June 29th, 2012
3:49 pm
DOB pointing out the obvious. Team isn’t clutch. Way too many scoring opportunities gone by the wayside. Hope they read the article and man-up. Nats have clowned us pretty good lately. Looking for signs of a new mental toughness this weekend. Grind those AB’s guys!
Hillbilly
June 29th, 2012
3:49 pm
Prado and Uggla on the bench on the same day? Can you imagine having to tell ONE of them he’s sitting this one out? Much less both of those guys. They’re going to bug the crap out of him in that dugout.
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
3:49 pm
“Sure hope Prado is okay…”
Sure hope Fredi is ok, Prado and Uggla probably have him cornered by now.
Efrim
June 29th, 2012
3:50 pm
On what the Braves might do before the July 31 non-waiver trade deadline:
“We have the flexibility to make a big deal. If one presents itself and we think it can improve our club, we’re gonna be there trying to finish it. I think we have the talent in our minor league system [and] we have the payroll flexibility to make a deal.”
I think we can get Dempster without having to give up too much. If he’s healthy, he might be our best option. Garza and Greinke would cost too much and Jason Vargas’s of the world are back of the rotation types, imo.
CrαZy
June 29th, 2012
3:51 pm
Seems a bit odd to rest both Prado and Uggla
Can’t be because of the heat it’s only a dry heat!
ColoradoBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
3:51 pm
I really just wish uggla could help the team in situations like last night instead of striking out.
Eight inning, tie game….Chipper walks and is balked to second. Uggla just has to move chipper to 3rd in that situation. Give some many opportunities to score from 3rd.
Go Braves
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
3:51 pm
Fredi does know Hudson or Hanson aren’t pitching tonight, right? Prado has to be sick or something. No way you sit him to begin this kind of series.
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Murph
June 29th, 2012
3:51 pm
Bryce! Over here! Bryce! Mark Bradley, AJC… Bryce, we’ve heard that Justin Bieber has invited you to attend the Grammys with him next year. True? What do you plan on wearing?
That’s a gown question, bro.
monty
June 29th, 2012
3:51 pm
Obviously not a statement game for Fredi,unless Prado is sick???
Bryce Harper
June 29th, 2012
3:52 pm
I have been reading your comments–man these are clown posts.
Disgusted
June 29th, 2012
3:52 pm
Man, I hate it that Prado is not playing — hope he ges back in there soon.
Jack Wilson at 2B. He is okay with the glove but a likely 0 for 4.
DS1
June 29th, 2012
3:52 pm
What is it with Fredi and thinking that he should rest 2 of his regulars in the same day. Now if he’d wanted to get Diaz bat in against the lefty, he coulda put Prado at second for a game.
???
Hillbilly
June 29th, 2012
3:53 pm
Kind of thinking along the same lines as Ef, here. I wonder if Prado might be banged up a little.
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
3:53 pm
I think I’m sitting McCann before I sit Martin. No, I KNOW I am.
ncbravesfan90
June 29th, 2012
3:53 pm
Dang, I told you the Braves had more $$$ to spend than many here believed.
The biggest statement from the blog, tells all you need to know:
(From Frank Wren): “We have the flexibility to make a big deal. If one presents itself and we think it can improve our club, we’re gonna be there trying to finish it. I think we have the talent in our minor league system [and] we have the payroll flexibility to make a deal.”
(From Terry McGuirk): “McGuirk said Thursday that there is no available player who is out of the Braves’ affordability range, if they decided it was a deal that made sense for the team.”
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
3:54 pm
DS1- Are you sure Prado is stretched out enough to play 2nd? He has only had reps at LF/3B.
Disgusted
June 29th, 2012
3:54 pm
“I think we can get Dempster without having to give up too much. If he’s healthy, he might be our best option. Garza and Greinke would cost too much and Jason Vargas’s of the world are back of the rotation types, imo”
Maybe we can get away with giving them Salcedo. That would not be so bad, Even if Dempster is only a rental.
Salcedo is a long shot for MLB as it stands now.
CrαZy
June 29th, 2012
3:54 pm
Sure hope Fredi is ok, Prado and Uggla probably have him cornered by now.
I’d hate to be on the recieving end of a head lock from Uggla!!
monty
June 29th, 2012
3:55 pm
Prado did look a little wierd on that scoring play last nite when he thought the RF had caught the ball over his head. Looked like he barely could make it home.
DS1
June 29th, 2012
3:55 pm
fan90
A lot of big IF’s in those statements buddy. Huge IF’s.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
3:55 pm
That lineup looks troublesome, maybe I will be proved wrong.
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
3:56 pm
Harper mentions Ripkin,Jr and Jeter as guys he looks up to because they’ve played for the same team their whole careers. Leaves out Chipper, the man on a team breathing down your necks.
Whatever, stupid teenager is still popping white heads on his face anyways.
CrαZy
June 29th, 2012
3:56 pm
I know I’ve already said it once, but I really hope they play carnival clown music for Brice tonight!!
Felix
June 29th, 2012
3:56 pm
Thanks Fredi for sitting Uggla. It was driving me nuts watching his pathetic attempts at the plate. You can sit him out for the entire Nats series as far as I’m concerned. Hell, for the rest of the season for that matter. Even better—trade his butt. Another Wren trade that went wrong.
Rick
June 29th, 2012
3:56 pm
DS1, I’d agree with you if both Uggla and Prado were hitting well. Although I wish Prado weren’t sitting against the Nats, I can’t remember the last time he’s had a day off and they are playing in some extreme heat this weekend. Also Wilson hasn’t gotten a start since Simmons was brought up. Need to keep the bench players fresh.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
3:57 pm
Sure hope Fredi is ok, Prado and Uggla probably have him cornered by now.
LOL
I think I’m sitting McCann before I sit Martin. No, I KNOW I am.
Sit Mac sunday…
BTW, I don’t think Prado is hurt, at least I hope so…. think it’s just a rest day… when was the last time he didn’t start?
DS1
June 29th, 2012
3:57 pm
MFin04
Maybe Prado is not in there because he got injured getting “stretched” out to play some second base??
Disgusted
June 29th, 2012
3:57 pm
Hey, this is a mega rich corporation that has more $$$$$$$$ than one can imagine. Does not mean they want to spend it on the salaries of a major league ball player.
They could spend the $$$$$$$ on two Pujols type of deals and it is a drop in the bucket, wanting to do it and seeing value in it is another thing.
(And even I don;t think even one of those kind of deals is smatr for this team).
The way it stands now, for what I know a $20 million a yr player is not wise for this team. That kind of cash does not make sense to me anyway, so much $$$$$$$$$.
monty
June 29th, 2012
3:58 pm
Maybe the organist can play Send in the Clowns for Bryce on his AB’s.
ncbravesfan90
June 29th, 2012
3:58 pm
Dempster would not be a rental. We would have him for the 2013 season as well.
Ralph
June 29th, 2012
3:58 pm
I would give Uggla to anybody that would take his payroll, don’t have to give up anybody just take his payroll then I would use that money and get a left fielder that can hit and put Prado back on 2B where he belongs. I like Delgado but he will not have a winning record on this team as presently constructed, they simply do not give him the run support to give him confidence to go out and pitch aggressively.
Bay Area Steve
June 29th, 2012
3:59 pm
Really shoulda stopped after “noun” question. That was classic. Now, y’all are just tryin’ too hard.
What’s left? brown, town, crown, down…
Shoot, modern-day rap don’t even need to rhyme, as long as it sounds right, and in time. That opens some doors…
cricket
June 29th, 2012
3:59 pm
strong is the bench today
Harry Schwartz
June 29th, 2012
3:59 pm
AMEN Felix. “Struggla” needs to go.
Disgusted
June 29th, 2012
3:59 pm
“I know I’ve already said it once, but I really hope they play carnival clown music for Brice tonight!!”
Now, that is funny. Real funny. The music from the Six Flags commercial when the old man was dancing would be funny.
DS1
June 29th, 2012
4:00 pm
Darned glad Ralph is not the GM……….
CrαZy
June 29th, 2012
4:01 pm
Monty
“Be a clown” by Judy Garland is what he posted for Harper on Twitter!!
monty
June 29th, 2012
4:01 pm
Resting your #3 hitter for an important game who has the highest BA on the team. WOW! I’m hoping for Fredo’s sake he’s sick.
Disgusted
June 29th, 2012
4:01 pm
Dempster would not be a rental. We would have him for the 2013 season as well.
My bad ncbravesfan90. Now I would like to go after Dempster.
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
4:01 pm
“McGuirk said Thursday that there is no available player who is out of the Braves’ affordability range, if they decided it was a deal that made sense for the team”
Biggest BS line I have heard in a long time. Grienke is not in their range. Neither is Garza or anyone like that. Bargain bin and/or bust.
DS1
June 29th, 2012
4:03 pm
Best thing to do with a player like Harper is to just ignore him. Pitch him well and don’t give him anything to use to motivate him more to kick your azz. Those kind of guys don’t need much goading to get more motivated to kill the competition.
Do not wake up the sleeping giant (even if he is not sleeping).
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
4:03 pm
It amazes me how no one from AJC has the time to actually clue us all in on why Prado is out of the lineup. You’d think with the blog or the Tweeter or whatever they could get us the info pretty quickly.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 29th, 2012
4:05 pm
Thanks for the new Blog, Chief.
Int’resting lineup—it has it’s good point, cough cough…Hope it’s just a day off for Prado and there’s nothing wrong with him—maybe Fredi wanted to get MattE in there but didn’t wanna sit Heyward after just one lousy 0-fer…?
Efrim
June 29th, 2012
4:05 pm
Kind of thinking along the same lines as Ef, here. I wonder if Prado might be banged up a little.
Doesn’t make sense to rest him and Uggs on the same day, Hillbilly. Hope Martin is healthy.
monty
June 29th, 2012
4:05 pm
Crazy
“Send in the clowns” might be too much of a disrespect.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
4:06 pm
MFin: Maybe they have been unable to ask that yet….
Bat Masterson
June 29th, 2012
4:06 pm
Doesn’t Harper have a beaning coming for tripping up Simmons?
bruce
June 29th, 2012
4:06 pm
DOB amped up then down and PJ wants a gun…. ah comcast
Ralph
June 29th, 2012
4:06 pm
Why not just rest everybody, start Venters and let him pitch nine innings, hell we don’t need anymore wins we’re in good shape.
JoeFan
June 29th, 2012
4:07 pm
No reason to sit either Uggla or Prado unless they are sick or hurt. Guess Fredi doesn’t believe these games are important enough to put his best nine on the field.
DS1
June 29th, 2012
4:07 pm
A couple of folks said Dempster would not be a 1 year rental. I checked and Baseball Reference has him as being a free agent next year, unless he has some sort of option clause I don’t know about.
Juan
June 29th, 2012
4:07 pm
Club House open @ 4:00PM people…
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
4:08 pm
It makes sense to sit Uggla, but only if you are replacing him with Prado. If not, leave him in the lineup, Jack Wilson will make Uggla look like a dream.
DS1
June 29th, 2012
4:09 pm
Bat
You might be onto something there w/ Harper. But that might be a risky move too. The kid seems to get motivated by others showing him up.
Murph
June 29th, 2012
4:09 pm
Bryce, who was your favorite? Alice? Vera? Mel?
That’s a clown question, Flo.
Bay Area Steve
June 29th, 2012
4:09 pm
You know what the winking emoticon means? ‘Cause I’m gonna give her a shot:
It means there’s a decent chance the user is an ass. Y’all truly think your stuff is so smart and clever, and 90% of the time it’s unfunny, hardly readable, space-wasting drivel. Our new board leader (man, how I miss the old ones) is dropping three winks a page. If only I could be so witty…
Here’s a thought: how ’bout you let us read what you’ve got, and decide for ourselves the value. You gloating seems… wrong.
Hillbilly
June 29th, 2012
4:10 pm
Really shoulda stopped after “noun” question. That was classic. –BAS
Missed it. Gimme a time stamp so I can go back and check it out.
Bat Masterson
June 29th, 2012
4:11 pm
But that might be a risky move too. The kid seems to get motivated by others showing him up.
Maybe so, Wayne. Still I don’t think he should skate on that play.
Bay Area Steve
June 29th, 2012
4:11 pm
It was a Murph, Hillbilly, and it was B.E.A.utiful. Maybe he’ll find it for us.
And, Murph, I see you working. Way to change it up.
Harry Schwartz
June 29th, 2012
4:13 pm
Interesting to see someone so uptight and caustic call themselves “Bay Area” Steve. Aren’t Frisco folks supposed to be laid back??
ncbravesfan90
June 29th, 2012
4:14 pm
Disgusted-
I’m sorry, I had several pages up on several different pitchers and looked at the wrong one when I replied to your comment. You are correct, he will be a free agent after this year. He will be a free agent 5 days after the 2012 World Series. My apologies again.
cricket
June 29th, 2012
4:14 pm
same people that want to get rid of Uggla because he is useless according to them are having an aneurism because he is sitting on same day when Prado is sitting. beautiful minds abound.
Murph
June 29th, 2012
4:14 pm
And, Murph, I see you working. Way to change it up.
I’m just gettin’ warmed up… although maybe 1 in 10 on here will get the “Alice” reference.
phil
June 29th, 2012
4:16 pm
Prado is probably sore from whatever someone saw with him last night….being gimpy on a play or whatever it was.
Our guys just lay down and die in the biggest of games anyway, so why bother playing through it tonight. We’re looking at about a 7-1 loss.
DS1
June 29th, 2012
4:16 pm
The Boogie Man checks under his bed at night to see if Dan Uggla is there………….
Bay Area Steve
June 29th, 2012
4:16 pm
I pick blog-fights, Harry. It’s who I am. Sorry to force the scroll. And, no laid-back here. Since I’ve quit drinkin’, I might, I repeat might, be a bit irritable.
NickB
June 29th, 2012
4:16 pm
Ryan Dempster IS a free agent after this season
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/04/2013-mlb-free-agents.html
NickB
June 29th, 2012
4:18 pm
of all the arms that the Braves would even want, I think Garza is the only one who isn’t a free agent next year.
Bay Area Steve
June 29th, 2012
4:19 pm
6:52 on 6/28:
“Excuse me Mr Harper… what adjective would you use to describe your rookie season so far?
That’s a noun question, bro.”
That was the first one, I believe. Very strong.
Murph
June 29th, 2012
4:19 pm
I’d give the Cubs 2 mid-level prospects for Dempster… that’s about it.
Rental, coming off the DL, 35 years old… not worth anything even approaching our top prospects.
B_F 54
June 29th, 2012
4:21 pm
“who’s toeing the rubber”
“thats a mound question bro”
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
4:21 pm
Prado did look awkward on that run he scored…not sure what that was…
cricket
June 29th, 2012
4:23 pm
of all the arms that the Braves would even want, I think Garza is the only one who isn’t a free agent next year.
you forgot Jason Vargas
NickB
June 29th, 2012
4:23 pm
Mr Harper what did you think about the quality of the field here in Atlanta?
That’s a plow question bro
NickB
June 29th, 2012
4:24 pm
cricket
I wouldn’t wanna go near Vargas
Bay Area Steve
June 29th, 2012
4:24 pm
“thats a mound question bro”
Can I get a ruling? Onomatopoetically correct? Funny enough?
NC is Braves Country
June 29th, 2012
4:25 pm
Too much Braves bashing going on here. The lineup doesn’t make since but that’s the nine that are taking the field with a tomahawk across their chest so im going to cheer for them like every other night. The managers and front office don’t always make the best decisions but in the end they are still the Atlanta Braves and will always have me for a fan.
NickB
June 29th, 2012
4:25 pm
Bryce Harper and his heart surgeon brother walk into a bar, his brother heads off to the bathroom and a clown walks over and asks “Mr Harper, I was wondering if eating more oatmeal will help my cholesterol”
Bryce said “That’s a bro question clown”
Bama Brave
June 29th, 2012
4:25 pm
I dont think the braves are going after Rentals. Its gonna be Matt Garza or Zack Greinke. And I will be happy with either one.
Bay Area Steve
June 29th, 2012
4:28 pm
“That’s a plow question bro”
Clearly over the line. We must disallow. Please retry.
saltyweeks
June 29th, 2012
4:29 pm
I don’t like to make negative comments and I think the furor over Fredi’s lineups is overstated. BUT…going into our biggest series yet and playing Jack Wilson over Prado at 2nd? Everyone questioning that is right. This time everyone complaining is right.
cricket
June 29th, 2012
4:29 pm
pure gold -
http://offthebench.nbcsports.com/2012/06/29/pimp-cups-juice-assault-and-representing-yourself-in-court-the-hilarious-fred-davis-story/
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
4:29 pm
some more Harper nuggets I see!… I’m too tired to come up with one though…. Carry on folks
TB
June 29th, 2012
4:29 pm
I’ll take a shot.
“What’s going through you’re caught halfway between third and home on a botched squeeze?”
Bay Area Steve
June 29th, 2012
4:29 pm
“That’s a bro question clown”
Ooh, nice variation. Probably better than Murph’s Diner version earlier. Murph, response?
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
4:30 pm
Still don’t get the clown question thing, or why it is even that popular. Makes no sense, isn’t funny, and the kid probably drinks anyways. Doesn’t exactly look the clean life-style type.
TB
June 29th, 2012
4:30 pm
dammit. “…through your mind…”
(Changed the joke halfway through…)
Bay Area Steve
June 29th, 2012
4:30 pm
That’s a rundown question, bro.
Hillbilly
June 29th, 2012
4:31 pm
BAS, you’re right, O Caustic one. The “noun” question was tops, and it’s been a struggle to find that magic since then.
I was going to ask Bryce who killed Rosie Larson, but I don’t think it’s worth it. “Noun” trumps all.
TB
June 29th, 2012
4:31 pm
MFin04, if so, he’s a lapsed Mormon, but I haven’t heard anyone say he’s lapsed.
njbraves
June 29th, 2012
4:31 pm
Giving Uggla a day off and Wilson a start is fine, but there’s no reason for Diaz to be in there instead of Prado. Fredi continues to baffle.
TB
June 29th, 2012
4:32 pm
Thanks, Bay Area Steve.
Too easy?
leftrecursion
June 29th, 2012
4:32 pm
Weren’t the braves also scouting liriano from the twins?
yeah c'mon
June 29th, 2012
4:32 pm
lets hope Delgado circa Baltimore shows up rather than Delgado circa Boston.
RC
June 29th, 2012
4:32 pm
BAS, I think I’ve got one for you:
Scene: Harper working the Monday Night Football booth with Joe Theisman.
Theisman – Bryce, with the way the Redskins defense is playing tonight, do you think the Falcons are better off running the ball or passing?
Harper – That’s a down question, Joe.
Hillbilly
June 29th, 2012
4:33 pm
By the way, the Rosie Larson question? That’s a drown question, bro.
NickB
June 29th, 2012
4:34 pm
bryce Harper is sitting on the front porch of his backwoods bungalow when a large black bird lands nearby and asks “Hey Bryce, do you know what street the post office is on? I need to mail a letter to my uncle in Chicago.”
Bryce replies;
That’s a town question crow
CrαZy
June 29th, 2012
4:34 pm
http://www.brobible.com/
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
4:34 pm
Someone asks Harper what his favorite reality show is. Answer? That’s a broad question bro
(pardon the slang)
CrαZy
June 29th, 2012
4:34 pm
It’s a Bro thing you wouldn’t understand!!
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
4:35 pm
“MFin04, if so, he’s a lapsed Mormon, but I haven’t heard anyone say he’s lapsed.”
Yeh, I’ve never understood the whole..don’t drink alcohol, soda, coffee, tea…but have as many wives as possible thing. I think I’d rather my significant other…have a coffee or Coke every now and then…
NickB
June 29th, 2012
4:35 pm
Liriano is a compelling figure, when he’s on, he’s literally a top ten pitcher, but when he’s off he’s literally a bottom ten pitcher…..
if the price was right, I wouldn’t be angry if they picked him up. But only if they had missed out on some other choices or he was a 2nd starter acquired
Bay Area Steve
June 29th, 2012
4:36 pm
“Too easy?”
Not bad. Must be disallowed because of the one-syllable rule. The judges have decided that two syllable entries widens the field more than desired. Please limit future entries to one syllable.
Hillbilly, well done with The Killing tie-in. Unfortunately, Murph has already used drown.
phil
June 29th, 2012
4:36 pm
NC is Braves Country
June 29th, 2012
4:25 pm
Too much Braves bashing going on here. The lineup doesn’t make since but that’s the nine that are taking the field with a tomahawk across their chest so im going to cheer for them like every other night. The managers and front office don’t always make the best decisions but in the end they are still the Atlanta Braves and will always have me for a fan.
**************
Is there just no escape from the mental midgets who think that only they are fans because they never criticize the team? Deliver me from this nonsense. It’s worse than the complaining to me.
That’s my opinion. What’s yours? Nevermind. We know.
Jimmy
June 29th, 2012
4:38 pm
Could the Braves have Prado sitting out because there is a major deal in the works?
Why else sit both Prado and Heyward.
CrαZy
June 29th, 2012
4:38 pm
Brice is a proud suporter of Brorack Brobama!!
Hillbilly
June 29th, 2012
4:38 pm
well done with The Killing tie-in. Unfortunately, Murph has already used drown.
F. Missed that one too. I quit. That was all I had.
Bay Area Steve
June 29th, 2012
4:39 pm
“That’s a town question crow”
No, no, no. Talking birds are clearly against regulations. Rule 6.08(g) states that talking birds are not allowed by any entrant with the lone exception of McFann and Petey or any applicable Wrens.
“That’s a down question, Joe.”
Nice football variant. Murph losing a lot of ground now.
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
4:39 pm
“Could the Braves have Prado sitting out because there is a major deal in the works?”
Prado and Uggla, Heyward is hitting 3rd.
NickB
June 29th, 2012
4:40 pm
Jimmy
only way they would move Prado would be if they were getting both an impact LF’er AND an impact starting pitcher (think Willingham and Liriano) but that seems a bit unlikely
CrαZy
June 29th, 2012
4:40 pm
“Too young for a bruskie so I drink Broskies!!”
NickB
June 29th, 2012
4:40 pm
byareasteve
whatever, mine was gold
Juan
June 29th, 2012
4:41 pm
MLB NET…The Rundown….Prado jusr rest day
Bay Area Steve
June 29th, 2012
4:42 pm
“That’s a broad question bro”
Sorry, just doesn’t sound enough alike. Judges would’ve allowed, but have ruled that broad could’ve been better used in some sort of double-entendre. Judges, of course, aren’t creative enough to come up with their own.
RC
June 29th, 2012
4:43 pm
Nationals first base coach – “This guy is tipping his delivery. If he looks over twice, he always goes to the plate, and you should steal 2nd.”
Harper – “That’s a sound suggestion. Go?”
Bay Area Steve
June 29th, 2012
4:43 pm
LOL, Nick.
Judges fully disclose that this is entirely subjective.
Juan
June 29th, 2012
4:44 pm
MLB Security start an inquire in Fredi gonzalez…they look like he want to loose this game….Gonzalez is tied to Vegas bookies
cricket
June 29th, 2012
4:45 pm
The Twins are believed more willing to trade speedy outfielder Denard Span than his power-hitting outfield mate Josh Willingham.
While the struggling Twins don’t appear actively engaged as a seller yet, they are believed willing to listen on Span in the July trading season because of the presence of emerging center fielder Ben Revere. Center field is a position of concern for a few other teams, so the interest would be substantial in Span. The Nationals and Marlins are among teams to have pursued Span in the past.
The Twins would seek a young starting pitcher in return for Span, and if no one’s willing to offer one they’d likely hold onto him.
While the interest in Willingham would be significant considering his excellent first year in Minnesota and a weak hitting market, a person familiar with the Twins’ thinking said he believes they are reluctant to trade him only a half year after their prescient signing. Willingham has 15 home runs, 49 RBI, a .272 batting averase and .920 OPS.
Span is hitting .277 with three homers and 19 RBI. Even the Yankees could make sense if Brett Gardner isn’t able to return this year (the Yankees hope Gardner can come back in late July). Revere is hitting .323.
Ryan Dempster won’t be back until after the All-Star break. He was originally eligible to come back this past Sunday and, as recently as a couple of days ago, the Cubs thought he’d miss only one start.
m4licious420
June 29th, 2012
4:45 pm
Dempster or Garza? Neither one of these guys would help this team… and I mean, REALLY help this team. Yeah, they would offer a little, but Greinke should be the man we go after. Greinke would be something that this club hasn’t had in a while, which is an absolutely dominant ace. Dempster and Garza are not worth the cost, Greinke IS.
Venice Jim
June 29th, 2012
4:45 pm
BAS – enjoying your refereeing as I work with 9 year old twins on vocabulary…
Murph
June 29th, 2012
4:45 pm
It’s getting out of control.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
4:45 pm
AARGH, that’s the best my fried brain can do right now…. will try again l8r
Bay Area Steve
June 29th, 2012
4:45 pm
“That’s a sound suggestion. Go?”
Wow. This is difficult. First of all: well done. clown v sound, we will allow. Very nice variant with changing bro; most have not thought of rhyming there. I guess it comes down to suggestion v question.
We’re going to allow it. It’s funny.
Efrim
June 29th, 2012
4:46 pm
Good to hear that Prado is just resting, however I question resting him the same day as Uggla. Oh well. As long as Martin isn’t hurt.
CrαZy
June 29th, 2012
4:46 pm
Enjoy the game tonight people… hope it’s a bro-out!
Jimmy
June 29th, 2012
4:46 pm
Mfin04 – Right, I meant Prado and Uggla.
Of course I’m just speculating.
We’ll see.
Nick – I understand what you are saying, unlikely, but it is possible.
DOB – Can you find out why Prado AND Uggla are out? Obvious for Dan but what about ‘Teen.
Bay Area Steve
June 29th, 2012
4:46 pm
“I work with 9 year old twins on vocabulary…”
They’re more mature, aren’t they?
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
4:46 pm
“It’s getting out of control.”
I think it is a little late for the word “getting”
DiamondbackMac
June 29th, 2012
4:46 pm
It looked to me like Prado may have tweaked his hamstring last night.
Bay Area Steve
June 29th, 2012
4:47 pm
“I think it is a little late for the word “getting”
LOL. I just miss Evan Gattis.
The Bravery
June 29th, 2012
4:48 pm
“What are you wearing to prom”
“That’s a gown question bro”
Hillbilly
June 29th, 2012
4:48 pm
I wonder if Harper can turn around a Kimbrel fastball like Young did last night?
Venice Jim
June 29th, 2012
4:49 pm
More mature than their 11 year old brother, but probably not most bloggers…
RC
June 29th, 2012
4:49 pm
“Could the Braves have Prado sitting out because there is a major deal in the works?”
It’s certainly possibly, but it seems much more likely that they are sitting him because he hasn’t had a day off in a while, they want Diaz in against the lefty, Heyward is to hot to sit, Chipper is actually healthy, and Fredi refuses to play Prado at 2b anymore. He could have played 1b instead of Freeman, but Freeman has been heating up quite a bit too lately.
Hillbilly
June 29th, 2012
4:49 pm
That’s a siddown question, Ho.
NickB
June 29th, 2012
4:50 pm
One thing to consider is the Nat’s pursuing Span, if they get him, that puts them out of the Bourn hunt in the offseason and may lower the going rate a few mill a year. I would have bet the farm the Nats gave Bourn a 5 year $75 mill offer with a 6th year option for $15 mill. But with Upton and Victorino around, Bourn might have to settle for 4 years $52 mill which might make him worth it
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
4:50 pm
A hunter asks Harper what kind of dog is best for hunting. Answer:That’s a hound question, bro.
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
4:50 pm
“and Fredi refuses to play Prado at 2b anymore”
Because he clearly is a terrible 2nd baseman. Especially when compared defensively to Uggla and offensively to Jack Wilson.
cricket
June 29th, 2012
4:51 pm
NC is Braves Country June 29th, 2012 4:25 pm
Too much Braves bashing going on here.
For the record, I don’t think this single line makes you “mental midget”. However, this place is now pretty much owned by super-sensitive -ve nannies who will resort to name calling for any imagined slight. Nothing can be done about that.
Hillbilly
June 29th, 2012
4:51 pm
Two syllables,…eat me. Time to head to the smile shop. 18 Beers of Love.
(Rob from SC)
June 29th, 2012
4:51 pm
Sit one player a day…not 2
Bay Area Steve
June 29th, 2012
4:52 pm
“That’s a siddown question, Ho.”
New leader in the clubhouse. Like dude shot four 64s. Gonna be real hard to beat.
Sounds exactly right, with a blog-history, Soph/RG tie-in. Real hard to beat.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
4:53 pm
Bryce, how can I tie up a criminal? A: That’s a bound question, bro.
Bay Area Steve
June 29th, 2012
4:54 pm
Judges read siddown as more of a 1 1/2 syllable word. Sit down is clearly two. Siddown is like Kimbrel’s 98. Straight and quick. Not a lot of movement. Siddown shall be allowed.
richbrave
June 29th, 2012
4:54 pm
DOWN ON THE FARM
GWINNETT
JULIO TEHERAN and the G-Men set a franchise record. Last night T-REX helped to establish a new losing record of 13 losses in a row. “No mas” – MANOS de PIEDRAS vs. ‘Sugar Ray’ LEONARD II
RHSP JULIO TEHERAN [L 5-5, 4.50 ERA] 3.2 IP, 10 H, 1 HR, 9 R/ER, 0 BB, 4 SO.
Cuffed and beaten, JULIO slinks off after just 3.2 innings of ineptitude. Where the ‘H’ is last year’s promise????
LHRP ADAM RUSSELL [7.04 ERA] 1.1 IP, 1 H, zeros.
RHRP JAYE CHAPMAN [3.41 ERA], 2.0 IP, 1 H., zeros, 3 BB, 3 SO.
Great bounce-back after a rough outing. Hope it rubs off on TEHERAN.
LHRP D.J. CARRASCO [10.29 ERA] 1.0 IP, 2 H, 2 R/ER, ` BB, 0 SO.
Pretty much the way things have gone since he arrived.
Hitting aplenty [10 H, 3 2B, 1 3B]. Just couldn’t keep pace with the mound-work!
LF JOSE CONSTANZA [.289 BA] 2-5, 1 R, 1 RBI [17], 1 E [3, fielding].
2B TYLER PASTORNICKY [.257 BA] 2-4, 2 RBI [14], 1 BB.
1B ERNIE MEJIA [.303 BA] 1-5, 1 RBI [53], 1 SO.
C JC BOSCAN [.195 BA] 1-3, 1 R, 1 2B [8], 1 RBI [15], 1 BB.
SS JOSH WILSON [.248 BA] 2-3, 1 R, 2 2B [16], 1 SO.
RF FELIX PIE [.288 BA] 1-5, 1 3B [5], 1 SO.
PH SHAWN McGILL [.179 BA] 1-1, 1 R.
RC
June 29th, 2012
4:54 pm
“That’s a gown question bro”
Nice one. I feel like I need to come up with one more good one to get a solid 3. My last one cut it close on the rhyming of clown and sound.
Murph
June 29th, 2012
4:55 pm
Hey Tomahawkin, what do you think of Fredi’s new lineup against the Nats?
That’s a Shaun question, fo sho.
Von Trapp
June 29th, 2012
4:58 pm
Get on das boots Mr.Bones Jones. Ve need you to vead das troops over das Rhine.
abeeewright
June 29th, 2012
4:58 pm
I hope the Braves win tonight. I’m going to root, root, root for the home team.
But, Fredo is beyond belief with his bomb-squad line-up in a winnable first game of a series against the division leader. When the second game, Minor versus Strasburg, is a loss unless the baseball gods wake up in a weird mood that morning.
Beyond Belief by Declan McManus
History repeats the old conceits
The glib replies the same defeats
Keep your finger on important issues
With crocodile tears and a pocketful of tissues
I’m just the oily slick
On the windup world of the nervous tick
In a very fashionable hovel
I hang around dying to be tortured
You’ll never be alone in the bone orchard
This battle with the bottle is nothing so novel
So in this almost empty gin palace
Through a two-way looking glass
You see your Alice
You know she has no sense
For all your jealousy
In a sense she still smiles very sweetly
Charged with insults and flattery
Her body moves with malice
Do you have to be so cruel to be callous
And now you find you fit this identikit completely
You say you have no secrets
And then leave discreetly
[Chorus:]
I might make it California’s fault
Be locked in Geneva’s deepest vault
Just like the canals of Mars and the great barrier reef
I come to you beyond belief
My hands were clammy and cunning
She’s been suitably stunning
But I know there’s not a hope in Hades
All the laddies cat call and wolf whistle
So-called gentlemen and ladies
Dog fight like rose and thistle
I’ve got a feeling
I’m going to get a lot of grief
Once this seemed so appealing
Now I am beyond belief
[Chorus]
I might make it California’s fault
Be locked in Geneva’s deepest vault
Just like the canals of Mars and the great barrier reef
I come to you beyond belief
phil
June 29th, 2012
4:58 pm
I said nothing about a single line = mental midget….
It’s the entire i’m a better fan than you because I don’t complain routine that irks me.
Sorry if I’m on an island on that one.
Venice Jim
June 29th, 2012
4:58 pm
David O’Brien @ajcbraves
#Braves Prado has been nursing a sore hamstring. He’ll rest one day. Fredi also said Diaz good numbers vs. Detwiler made it easier
Shocking – people here leaping to conclusions…
RC
June 29th, 2012
4:59 pm
Probably the weakest of my 3, but I’m spent:
“Who do you think is the best relief pitcher of all time?”
“That’s a mound question. Mo” (Riveria)
Bay Area Steve
June 29th, 2012
4:59 pm
“That’s a Shaun question, fo sho.”
Creativity is a 10. Execution is a 6 (we’re not thrilled with fo sho in place of bro). Afraid we must deduct five points for not using multiple exclamation points and random capitalization.
“That’s a gown question bro”
It was strong, but unfortunately gown had been used. And, judges have decided reuse must be over-the-top funny to be allowed.
The Bravery
June 29th, 2012
5:00 pm
“Hey Bryce would you say Papa’s got a brand new bag?”
“That’s a James Brown question bro”
NickB
June 29th, 2012
5:00 pm
Hey Bryce , what do you think of the prices here in England?
That’s a pound question my good man
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
5:03 pm
“He’ll rest one day. Fredi also said Diaz good numbers vs. Detwiler made it easier”
He does realize that Matt Diaz plays left field and NOT 2nd base right? And he does realize that Prado was an All-Star at 2nd base right? And he does realize that Uggla is not playing 2nd base, right?
Make sure you give those questions in order or he might get confused. One at a time would probably work best.
richbrave
June 29th, 2012
5:03 pm
‘ROBBY’ from ‘My Three Sons’ passes.
BravesfaninWis
June 29th, 2012
5:07 pm
Read on MLB trade rumors that the Braves are looking at adding a impact type starting pitcher, and it said they are scouting Jason Vargas of the Mariners. He is not having that great of a season is he? I hope he is not what the Braves are seeking
RC
June 29th, 2012
5:07 pm
Shocking – people here leaping to conclusions…
I’ve already pulled out my “Jump to Conclusions” mat.
Bay Area Steve
June 29th, 2012
5:07 pm
“That’s a James Brown question bro”
Suitable. Not a winner, but you worked in a great entertainer. Well done.
“That’s a pound question my good man”
That’s kinda awesome. If you’re gonna go outside regulations, you don’t want to skirt, you wanna go big. Very, very nice. Subtle and in your face at the same time.
Where the heck is jeffrey d? He’d be awesome at these, and he ain’t even working.
Hugo Z Hackenbush
June 29th, 2012
5:07 pm
If Nolie were here, he’d tell you that Span’s home/away splits are horrendous. So I’ll tell you!
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
5:09 pm
“I’ve already pulled out my “Jump to Conclusions” mat.”
Terrible idea, yes…terrible idea.
NickB
June 29th, 2012
5:09 pm
Span’s home away splits are oddly different, yet his BB% and K% are so much different between home and away (and those two things are not park contingent we can all agree) that it makes me wonder if some of it isn’t a comfort factor….
Bay Area Steve
June 29th, 2012
5:09 pm
“That’s a mound question. Mo”
Not bad at all. Judges love the use of Mo, but think the setup and the use of mound could be improved. Again, judges are not creative enough to do this themselves.
Venice Jim
June 29th, 2012
5:09 pm
David O’Brien @ajcbraves
#Braves will rest Chipper on Sat. (Francisco at 3B) and rest McCann on Sun.
RC
June 29th, 2012
5:10 pm
Read on MLB trade rumors that the Braves are looking at adding a impact type starting pitcher, and it said they are scouting Jason Vargas of the Mariners.
The Braves really should be looking for a POSITIVE impact pitcher, not just a pitcher with some sort of impact. Sounds like some scouts got the wrong idea.
Murph
June 29th, 2012
5:11 pm
Vargas is 35-46 with a career ERA of 4.53. He’s 7-7 this year with a 4.54 ERA.
I’d offer Constanza straight up, take it or leave it.
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
5:11 pm
“Braves will rest Chipper on Sat. (Francisco at 3B) and rest McCann on Sun.”
Who wants to bet this doesn’t happen like this…?
DS1
June 29th, 2012
5:12 pm
Vargas would not be a terrible pickup if the price is right. He’s a lefty and controllable. And though he is not a top of the rotation arm, he’s a solid 3/4.
NickB
June 29th, 2012
5:12 pm
well, just because they are scouting him doesn’t mean they will pursue him, It’s a teams duty to scout all available options , it helps to narrow the field and focus the team’s gaze onto the one piece they feel they need.
abeeewright
June 29th, 2012
5:12 pm
“Our new board leader (man, how I miss the old ones) is dropping three winks a page.”
-BAS
My mom would have called it “diarrhea of the mouth” although in this case perhaps “diarrhea of the keyboard” is more fitting. Or “digital diarrhea” which is a little more punny (if you know where the word digital comes from).
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
5:13 pm
“Vargas is 35-46 with a career ERA of 4.53. He’s 7-7 this year with a 4.54 ERA.”
Sounds like our guy!? Will $15 million a year for 4 years work?
Murph
June 29th, 2012
5:13 pm
Vargas also has given up nearly 2 HR per 9IP this season… that’s freakin’ horrible. We’ve already got plenty of guys who throw BP out there during games, we don’t need another.
I really, really hope this guy isn’t the primary target of the front office. He’ll hurt more than he’ll help.
NickB
June 29th, 2012
5:14 pm
Vargas is really a lousy pitcher away from Seattle:
5.21 FIP, 1.62 K/bb ratio, 1.46 WHIP
those are career numbers, he’s not even avg away from that offensive death zone
abeeewright
June 29th, 2012
5:14 pm
Frank Wren … “Get me an impact player.”
Scout … “Alfonso Soriano might held you crater. That’s an impact, isn’t it?”
Frank Wren … “You’re fired.”
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 29th, 2012
5:15 pm
Hey, hey! What’s wrong with talking about Birds?…
Murph
June 29th, 2012
5:15 pm
well, just because they are scouting him doesn’t mean they will pursue him, It’s a teams duty to scout all available options
Two minutes on baseball reference dot come would have saved them the airfare in going to watch the guy pitch… he’s not good. Never has been, really.
No Vargas.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 29th, 2012
5:16 pm
MFin04 “Braves will rest Chipper on Sat. (Francisco at 3B) and rest McCann on Sun.”……Who wants to bet this doesn’t happen like this…?
Venice Jim
June 29th, 2012
5:16 pm
McFann – Music Man Monday!
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
5:17 pm
Murph – Should have gone with…. ” ‘No va’ on Vargas”
Venice Jim
June 29th, 2012
5:18 pm
Oops – Sunday…
phil
June 29th, 2012
5:18 pm
Jose Vargas? LSU, mid-80s….
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
5:19 pm
McCann doesn’t need off days, had 3 recently. Let him play Sunday!
No need to get Vargas, he’s basically an older Mike Minor…
Harry Schwartz
June 29th, 2012
5:22 pm
B.A.S.: Ha fair enough…and I feel ya. Nervous energy will abound when you cut back – no doubt!
Mark
June 29th, 2012
5:23 pm
We need an impact bat not pitcher. We lost last night because we leave too many men on base. We would be better off if Uggla were still in Miami and Infante were in the lineup tonight. Uggla isn’t even in the lineup but thats ok considering. I just hate we are paying him 60 million over the next 3 years. Lots of strkieouts yet to come with the occassional HR when we are up or down by 5 runs!!
Yeah, I know, most HR by second baseman…Big deal! He is a bust. Take away a month and a half last year and his average is probably barely .200 and now I can blast his defense. Wont go into that. Everyone knows that isn’t good!!!!
Gave him a year and a half before seeing enough!
CB
June 29th, 2012
5:24 pm
Reporter asked Elvis Presley what his new song would be about:
That’s a you ain’t nothing but a hound dog question,bro
Yogi Berra
June 29th, 2012
5:25 pm
ncbravesfan90, per cots contracts Ryan will be a free agent at end of this year 2012. He has a 14 million contract player option this year.Plus 4 more million in bonus. I don’t see Braves making the deal less Cubs pay over half.
Insider also said Braves were talking to Twins about a LH pitcher Franciso Liriano and Texas about the x braves Matt Harrison.
Hugo Z Hackenbush
June 29th, 2012
5:25 pm
This is like the open mic comedy night from hell…
dawg4u
June 29th, 2012
5:25 pm
Hey we are trying to catch the Nats so let’s sit Uggla and Prado on the same day our worst starter pitches. Brilliant. The Nats gotta be loving Fredi!
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
5:25 pm
Uggla is making 60 mil over the next 3 years? Think it’s 39 mil (13 mil/yr)
Yogi Berra
June 29th, 2012
5:26 pm
CB…lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NC is Braves Country
June 29th, 2012
5:26 pm
My reasoning Phil is why complain about something that you cannot control? In the end they are still the Braves and we are all going to pull for them anyway no need criticizing someone’s mental capacity.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 29th, 2012
5:28 pm
V. Jim—
Yes!!
I was gonna ask if you’d seen that! 5:15 Real Time, right? Game should be over by then!… 
abeeewright
June 29th, 2012
5:28 pm
“Where the heck is jeffrey d?”
That’s a clown question, bro.
NickB
June 29th, 2012
5:28 pm
Mark – uggla is a better player than Infante
even with Uggla’s recent slump his WAR at 2B is 5th in MLb and 2nd in the NL Infante is 9th in MLB
in UZR (most highly rated defensive metric) Infante is 9th in MLB and Uggla is 12th for 2012
so ,you see, Uggla is worth it, and he isn’t getting $60 million for the next 3 years either , he’s getting $39 mill for the next 3 years
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 29th, 2012
5:29 pm
Wait—is it Sunday or Monday?…
Sons of Rick Matula
June 29th, 2012
5:30 pm
I’m sure that Wren signed Wilson for that one-game a year when future Hall of Famer Ross Detwhiler takes the bump. Wilson rakes that guy. He’s 4-5 lifetime. 4-500 against the rest of the league.
Is there anything wrong with Prado? I know he hasn’t played 2B in some time but he has to be a better option in LF than Diaz.
Venice Jim
June 29th, 2012
5:30 pm
McFann – you should also try to catch 1776 on Wednesday…
Mark
June 29th, 2012
5:30 pm
No. I think he signed for 60 over 5. I’m not positive about it. I do know whatever it is that its way too much.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
5:31 pm
It’s Friday, McFann
Venice Jim
June 29th, 2012
5:31 pm
Sunday…
Brava
June 29th, 2012
5:31 pm
This is like the open mic comedy night from hell…
That’s a clown comment, bro.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 29th, 2012
5:32 pm
V. Jim—
What time is it on?…
CB
June 29th, 2012
5:32 pm
Thanks,Yogi.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 29th, 2012
5:32 pm
TOBF—
Mr. Funny Man…
NickB
June 29th, 2012
5:33 pm
Prado has a little tweak in his hamstring so they gave him a day off, Diaz hits lefty’s really well, it’s Wilson at 2nd that troubles me (but at least the up the middle D will be at it’s highest level
who knows, Wilson could drive in the game wining run with a double in the 9th…. ya never know
DS1
June 29th, 2012
5:34 pm
Look it up folks. You’re already on the internet. Uggla’s contract was for 5 years and 62 million. And he will make 13 million per year for the next 3 seasons after 2012.
And ALL baseball players make too much money. That’s clear to most of us.
But considering his production, he is making about what the rest of baseball thinks he is worth.
DS1
June 29th, 2012
5:35 pm
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/u/ugglada01.shtml#contracts
Venice Jim
June 29th, 2012
5:36 pm
I think it’s 5:00 your time…
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
5:36 pm
Mark, he signed for 62 over 5, but he’s due 39 over the next 3 years. I’ll quote you below.
Mark
June 29th, 2012
5:23 pm
We need an impact bat not pitcher. We lost last night because we leave too many men on base. We would be better off if Uggla were still in Miami and Infante were in the lineup tonight. Uggla isn’t even in the lineup but thats ok considering. I just hate we are paying him 60 million over the next 3 years.
Mark
June 29th, 2012
5:36 pm
Nick B
Uggla strikes out too much! Has terrible ABs. Infante is a better baseball player. Makes better contact, is a versatile player that can play other positions…and I’m not even advocating Infante as a player(especially a 2B) that a team should go after to build a championship team. He is just better than Uggla.
Lew
June 29th, 2012
5:38 pm
Now if only Delgado was a ground ball pitcher…..
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 29th, 2012
5:39 pm
V. Jim—
Hmm…that’s cuttin’ it close to Gametime…
But if I try to remember to set the DVR…I should look to see if that’s on iTunes…
NickB
June 29th, 2012
5:39 pm
mark
umm no he isn’t, there is no measure of baseball success in the game that lists Infante as better except for batting average……
WAR says Uggla is better, Isolated power says Uggla is better, OPS says Uggla is better, BB% says Uggla is better…..
Yogi Berra
June 29th, 2012
5:39 pm
Ok..Cots Contracts.com
Uggla 5 years 62 million with 1 million bonus.
2011=9 milliom
2012=13 milliom
2013=13 milliom
2014=13 million
2015=13 million
2016 Free Agent
Now you have the rest of the story..true facts.
Jimmy
June 29th, 2012
5:40 pm
VJ – I wasn’t jumping to conclusions, just speculating. I hadn’t seen that quote from DOB and found it odd Prado sitting with Uggla.
I may be in the minority, but we are playing the Nats this weekend. The first place Nats. What’s with all the “resting” of players? Why not during a series not as important?
Not really a Fredi hater, just a question to ponder.
Mark
June 29th, 2012
5:40 pm
Go to 5:30
I said I wasn’t sure!
Again, its way too damn much for his production!!!
NickB
June 29th, 2012
5:40 pm
Besides when Uggla was hitting very nicely for the first 2 months of the season and Infante was hitting like crap, I didn’t har anyone saying that Uggla was worse than Infante
Yogi Berra
June 29th, 2012
5:42 pm
I agree with Nick B..on Uggla.
bostonbravo
June 29th, 2012
5:42 pm
Hell’s bells…rest Uggla & even put Juan “The Blob” Francisco in for him…it would be an improvement! Bring back Brooks Conrad!!!!
David O'Brien
June 29th, 2012
5:43 pm
In case you missed the Twitter feed, notes from field: Prado has been nursing a sore hamstring, nothing serious but Gonzalez wanted to give him a day off to rest after seeing him look a little tentative last night. Plus, Diaz has good numbers in limited at-bats vs. Detwiler (3-for-7). Prado is 6-for-12 against him, but again, Fredi said he saw him a little tentative on couple of plays and running bases last night….
For Uggla, it’s the day off to clear his head, relax or whatever, that Gonzalez has been indicating was coming as this Uggla slump deepened. First start in a month for Jack Wilson, who is 4-for-5 against Detwiler. Fredi described it as killing two birds with one stone — Uggla gets a rest, Wilson gets some needed ABs….
Chipper will rest tomorrow (Francisco will play 3B) and McCann will rest Sunday….
Venice Jim
June 29th, 2012
5:43 pm
My point was that it might be prudent at this juncture to get the facts before supplying what seemed to be a very unlikely supposition…
Jimmy
June 29th, 2012
5:43 pm
Oh, and by the way, I made $50 bucks on Bauer’s performance last night.
Bought 50 rookie cards Tuesday at 95 cents and sold them this morning at $1.95.
Check out thepit.com if interested. Sports cards that works like the stock market.
Very enjoyable.
Going to cut grass now.
Later good people.
GO BARVES!!!
Venice Jim
June 29th, 2012
5:44 pm
Sorry – could not resist some Dana Carvey since the blog had become open mike night at the comedy club…
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
5:45 pm
Mark
June 29th, 2012
5:40 pm
Go to 5:30
I said I wasn’t sure!
No. I think he signed for 60 over 5.
You think he signed for 60 over 5, not due 60 over his next 3….. but anyways, I’ll drop it. Just nitpicking anyway…
Mark
June 29th, 2012
5:46 pm
OK NICKB or Ms. Uggla
He is great.
I’ll try and remember all your stats when Uggla carries the bat back to the dugout some more with Braves on the bases.
Jimmy
June 29th, 2012
5:47 pm
VJ – All is good. Just knew how they floated his name out there (lead to believe) in the off-season and now this. I didn’t have the other info from Twitter.
Have a good evening good folks.
Later.
NickB
June 29th, 2012
5:49 pm
Mark
whine all you want, the numbers tell the story, and if you think a 3 week slump takes precedence over two months and a career, well, frankly, that tells me you don’t know wtf you are talking about.
Yogi Berra
June 29th, 2012
5:51 pm
All you people calling Francisco Fat etc..the difference between him and Henski is 1 inch..taller and 6 lbs. so give it a break..thats bullying ???
DS1
June 29th, 2012
5:52 pm
NickB
Short termers. It’s the SECsyndrome in baseball. What have you done for me today!
I don’t know why I bother with them…………
Mark
June 29th, 2012
5:52 pm
Yuo must have been one of the ones that defended McClouth too!
DS1
June 29th, 2012
5:53 pm
Juan Fran is NOT fat. He is just a little short for his weight. Like me.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
5:54 pm
Actually, I’m not Mrs. Uggla, I’m a man… TBH, I liked to defend McLouth, but by June 2011, I couldn’t do it anymore. He’d struggled for too long.
VaBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
5:54 pm
Julio (Dominican Republic)
Hi Jayson. Can we Braves fans expect a trade for a starting pitcher AND a bat? After Beachy went down and the inconsistencies of Minor and Delgado, this is an obvious need. But they lack of consistence in the offense, especially when Chipper Jones isn’t in the lineup.
Jayson Stark (1:49 PM)
Money is too big an issue to think they’ll trade for both. They’re prioritizing an “impact” starter. That’s what I was told. But remember, they hate dealing for rent-a-players. So they’ll need to be creative, in more ways than one.
DS1
June 29th, 2012
5:54 pm
Mark
We pulled for McLouth (learn to spell, it kinda proves you actually ARE a fan). But no, we do not think McLouth and Uggla are in the same universe, comparison wise.
VaBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
5:55 pm
Richard (Greensboro, NC)
The Braves have tons of young pitching but it all seems just a bit mediocre. Do you think they have a core for the future, or should they move something to have a real ace or star going forward?
Jayson Stark (1:56 PM)
You have to remember that guys like Teheran and Delgado are very young. I don’t think “mediocre” is the right word. They just have a lot of growing, and growing up, to do. I like their core a lot. But not sure they’re ready to win without making a significant deal.
Yogi Berra
June 29th, 2012
5:55 pm
The onlybravesfan & Mark go to 5:39..the facts…what is it you don’t understand?
VaBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
5:55 pm
Robert (Chicago)
The Braves need a SP with young pitching to spare. The Cubs have Dempster and/or Garza to offer. How is that not a perfect match?
Jayson Stark (2:01 PM)
Dempster is a rental. Garza just doesn’t seem like their kind of guy to me. A little too, what’s the word, flamboyant? Tempestuous? But in this market, I don’t know if they can afford to be too picky. They need an arm. And I expect them to find one.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
5:57 pm
The onlybravesfan & Mark go to 5:39..the facts…what is it you don’t understand?
Why am I lumped in with him? I knew his contract details, I told MarkB that he was wrong. Before you posted. I didn’t spell it out year by year though…
Yogi Berra
June 29th, 2012
6:00 pm
On a serious note..The real Yogi Berra is very sick and may not live…if you will say a little prayer for a great person, player and manager.
Yogi Berra
June 29th, 2012
6:01 pm
sorry markb…my bad.
DS1
June 29th, 2012
6:01 pm
Facts!
This one still kills me……………
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zQdS0ReqQY
Mark
June 29th, 2012
6:02 pm
Nick B
Uggla is hitting .235 with 11 HR and struck out 89 freakin times. 89 Ks!!!!!!
Infante is hitting .288 has 7 HR and only struck out 35 times. Makes a lot less money.
I’m sure Wren would agree with you though!!
least of the east
June 29th, 2012
6:02 pm
maybe they can win at least 1 out of 3 this time ? to keep it close. is that asking too much ? maybe. if they get swept again, forget it.
Wren isn’t signing Bourn and he knows it. he’s just being coy.
if they have available money, why didn’t they sign an OF like Ross in the off season ? this GM is only fooling himself and a small portion of the fan base.
if Teheran and Minor were as good as advertised, he wouldn’t be looking for pitching.
besides Cunningham, what decent OF prospects are close to the majors ?
Yogi Berra
June 29th, 2012
6:02 pm
sorry again “The onlybraves fan”…I give up!
David O'Brien
June 29th, 2012
6:04 pm
Uggla went 4-for-5 w/ 2 HRs, 5 RBI on 6/5 at Miami; since then he’s 7-for-65 w/ 1 HR, 5 RBIs in 20 games.
Yogi Berra
June 29th, 2012
6:05 pm
thanks DOB..wow…he needs a rest.
Mark
June 29th, 2012
6:05 pm
OK. I was wrong on the money. The point was he makes too damn much!
stew
June 29th, 2012
6:06 pm
Why sit Uggla and Prado for Wilson and Diaz? Let them sit during the next series. We better win 2 games. We’re the home team.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
6:07 pm
it’s ok Yogi…
Mark: He might make too much, but he’s still better than Infante. Batting average alone doesn’t tell the whole story.
Uggla’s needed a rest for a while now….
Hugo Z Hackenbush
June 29th, 2012
6:08 pm
Why is it that the people who complain that someone like Uggla makes too much, never complain that someone like Craig Kimbrel makes too little?
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
6:10 pm
^^^^ @ Hugo: This.
NickB
June 29th, 2012
6:10 pm
Mark
Uggla -OBP .364
Unfante OBP- .313
Uggla career numbers:.257/.344/.477 avg almost 4 WAR per season
Infanter career numbers :.276/.318/.398 with an avg of 1.8 WAR per season
heck the only time Infante’s WAR beat Uggla’s was last season when Infante had a career best year at 2.7 and Uggla had a career worst year at 2.5
NickB
June 29th, 2012
6:12 pm
Hugo
wel that’s the real trick isn’t it? Player values need to be viewed over the lifetime of their time with each individual team relative to their pay.
Mark
June 29th, 2012
6:12 pm
With all due respect, its my opinion that batting average and Ks should matter much more than they do. Last night, had we had a better average guy that doesn’t strike so dang much in Ugglas spot we may have won a game
Disgusted
June 29th, 2012
6:13 pm
Vargas is about what we could expect from Minor in a couple of yrs.
Minor’s W-L record should be better because he is pitching on a better team, and he has more K potential.
Not completely turned off, but Vargas would be better than nothing. Minor has to be sent down for now, not giving up on him yet, but I do not trust him down this stretch.
I would offer a marginal underachieving prospect like Salcedo for him. That should be a reasonable offer. Good trade for both teams.
VaBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
6:13 pm
OBP is king.
DS1
June 29th, 2012
6:15 pm
Mark
Your 6:12pm post explains it all. It’s all about average and no K’s.
Now it will be much easier to blow right past all your future posts, since you are not really a serious baseball fan and I don’t need to waste any more of my time reading your drivel.
Mark
June 29th, 2012
6:16 pm
Hugo, I agree with you. The real sad thing is that we pitched Ventors to death last year before he could ever get a big payday! He was as lights out as anyone has ever been unfortunately I’m afraid he’ll never be that way again. Down 4 to 5 mph which has made the movement look nothing like before.
DS1
June 29th, 2012
6:17 pm
Disgusted
I think we’ll see 1-2 more starts from Delgado and Minor before any decision is made on another pitcher.
Keep saying: This is NOT the SEC. This is NOT the SEC.
Bozo ( The Clown )
June 29th, 2012
6:17 pm
Hmmmm, with Jack in the lineup, I really have to question Uggs getting a day off, I still feel with him in the lineup, we have a better chance to win over worthless Wilson.. What do you guys think?
Disgusted
June 29th, 2012
6:17 pm
Uggla is better than Infante but he is so darned streaky.
When Uggla is slumping, he slumps beyone bad.
When he gets hot he can carry a team.
And I am one of those who does not care much about WAR. I look at production stats like HRS, Doubles, RBI’s BA, OPB, & to some degree OPB and RC.
Screw WAR. Its production tht counts.
Bozo ( The Clown )
June 29th, 2012
6:18 pm
Over/Under 3 runs scored by our braves today, your thoughts blog?
Disgusted
June 29th, 2012
6:19 pm
I get it DS1 & I know this is not college football.
Speaking of the SEC, how about Crowell messing up again, this time this kid is in real trouble.
What a cement head. How much longer can Coach Richt put up with his #$@#
Mark
June 29th, 2012
6:19 pm
DS1
If you only knew?
NickB
June 29th, 2012
6:19 pm
and in a bajillion other games had we not had guy who can hit for power hitting in Uggla’s spot we would have lost those games….
sample size, it’s your friend
Bozo ( The Clown )
June 29th, 2012
6:19 pm
How many hits does Bryce get tonight ?? I would ask him myself but…. well, you know how he feels about me asking questions… he is a bit cold to us in my profession
NickB
June 29th, 2012
6:21 pm
Disgusted
RBI’s are the product of a team’s collective OBP ability not an individual hitter’s production
WAR works because it compares all players it each position to each other, is it perfect? no, but no stat is perfect, but if you need one easy number to compare all say 2nd basemen to each other, WAR works
Disgusted
June 29th, 2012
6:21 pm
.
“Why is it that the people who complain that someone like Uggla makes too much, never complain that someone like Craig Kimbrel makes too little?”
Good question. If Kimbrell hangs around and if effective long enough he will get his $$$$$$$$$ and should.
I do not think Uggla is overpaid in spite of his frustrating streakiness. We know what he can do when he is on.
VaBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
6:24 pm
Bryce Harper vs Jason Heyward. Threw there 1st 54 games of there MLB career.
Heyward 266/396/511/906 10 HR 39 RBI 10 2B
Harper 282/357/493/850 8 HR 22 RBI 12 2B
DS1
June 29th, 2012
6:25 pm
Bobby used to be so structured with his lineups. It’d take an act of Congress to get him to alter the lineup (short of resting the catcher).
It was refreshing when Fredi came in and wouldn’t hesitate to change things up a bit. But sometimes I long for the days of Bobby’s stability. Fredi takes the tweaking to the nth degree sometimes.
It makes it look like he really doesn’t know much about what he is doing from game to game. I really have my doubts.
NickB
June 29th, 2012
6:26 pm
Venter’s called strike zone between 2011 and 2012 , kinda looks like he may be gettign squeezed a bit more
http://capitolavenueclub.com/?p=6809
this article points out he is down ONE MPH on all his pitches, not 3 or 4 as Mark stated above, yet his FIP (fielding independent pitching) is pretty much the same as it always was, it appears that his high BABIP is a result of unlucky results on ball in play (which is a regression from his extremely lucky results on balls in play the prior two years)
Fred (not the one who posted earlier today)
June 29th, 2012
6:26 pm
After doing some research on the Harper/clown music tweet from the stadium organist, here is the deal. Harper was previously asked a question by a reporter, after which Harper responded “that’s a clown question.” A Denver brewery thought that comment was funny and named a beer after that quote. Harper then heard about a Denver policewoman (who was a single mother) that was recently killed. Harper suggested donating $ from the sale of the “clown” beer to a fund for the young daughter of the slain cop, which the brewery agreed to do. Not bad for a 19 year old.
Mark
June 29th, 2012
6:26 pm
Infante doesn’t walk. Thats why his OBP isn’t as good but he doesn’t K all the damn time with runners on and he is hitting .288.
I’ll just hold on and hope Ugglas 3 or 4 week yearly streak helps us overcome all the Ks the rest of the year and .235 average through 70 or so games.
NickB
June 29th, 2012
6:26 pm
oops, here is the second article I forgot to link
http://capitolavenueclub.com/?p=6806
Braveone
June 29th, 2012
6:26 pm
From the previous blog which had 1,543 comments, phil led the way with 92 posts. There were 143 different poster names. Here are the Top 25:
Rank Poster Frequency
1 phil 92
2 nolie 74
3 Efrim 73
4 MFin04 54
5 Ease 45
6 (Rob from SC) 42
7 Capt.Mudd 42
8 The A Bomb 41
9 bravesgrl4life 41
10 TheOnlyBravesFan 40
11 Bat Masterson 39
12 DS1 39
13 gene garbage 39
14 ChattTownBrian 37
15 Tomahawk Mafia 33
16 jeffrey d 32
17 David O’Brien 27
18 ncscoots 26
19 Disgusted 24
20 Dumbfounded again…… 24
21 Lew 24
22 Tomahawkin 24
23 Ward 24
24 TennesseePaul 23
25 McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô: 21
DS1
June 29th, 2012
6:27 pm
As Bat mentioned earlier, Harper is due for a little chin music after his antics of grabbing at Simmons leg on that slide……………
Let’s hope somebody cue’s RD to what needs to be done.
Mark
June 29th, 2012
6:28 pm
The article is wrong then Nick. Damn, have you watched the games? He was consistently 97 last year. Rarely 94 now.
NickB
June 29th, 2012
6:29 pm
not walking is bad Mark, it means more outs, and a strikeout isn’t that bad for a hitter who walks, it’s bad for hitters that don’t walk though
Mike
June 29th, 2012
6:30 pm
Well, the manager the Braves should have hired is in town tonight. Let’s see how his team matches up against fredi’s team.
Disgusted
June 29th, 2012
6:30 pm
NickB
I do not like the WAR stat & find it ficticious. Wins above replacement of what?????? What is that AAA or AAAA player who is replacable and as a fan, no one cares to compute it.
RBI’s are and are not a team stat. When a player gets a clutch hit with a couple men on base, you have 2 runs and 2 RBI. The team is helped.
I do get that OPB and OPS have importance, but to look at RBI;s as meaningless I cannot see it.
And I do think that the double is a stat that is underappreciated. Get a double with none out, you have a man in immediate scoring position.
WAR, VORP, FIP, BAIP, cannot really see the value in it. Of course I do not want to get that deep into it.
I do like the value of some advanced stats that are looked at but a system that rated Dave Kingman as a better player than Joe Carter, (WAR) that has weaknesses.
Being a fan is about having fun with the game and computing WAR is not fun for me. Most of the best players are going to have a high WAR anyway. A WAR of 2 is supposed to be good. I cannot see how Freddie Freeman had a 1.9 WAR last yr. Made no sense.
Murph
June 29th, 2012
6:30 pm
Couldn’t we wait for tomorrow to send Harper a message? I won’t care when he runs out and pounds on Mike Minor, but I’d rather not have him beat up Delgado.
NickB
June 29th, 2012
6:30 pm
He was not consistently 97, he was consistently 95 on his sinker….. the article got it’s numbers from pitch f/x who uses data from every game in baseball to create it’s pitch f/x charts………
so you are sayin that MLB is wrong on all of it’s data , and you are right from what you remember?
Mitchell
June 29th, 2012
6:31 pm
The Diamondbacks made two errors last night?
Why am I not surprised?
Disgusted
June 29th, 2012
6:31 pm
And I got back into the top 25. WEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mark
June 29th, 2012
6:31 pm
Nick you’re an idiot and I’m more of an idiot for trying to argue with you.
NickB
June 29th, 2012
6:32 pm
disgusted
maybe if you took the time to understand how the stat WAR is calculated you wouldn’t be afraid of it…
http://www.fangraphs.com/library/index.php/misc/war/
DS1
June 29th, 2012
6:33 pm
Mitchell
Unfortunately, you’re probably going to tell us. And tell us again, and again and again.
NickB
June 29th, 2012
6:34 pm
Mark
lol, no I just understand the game better than you do and you have no evidence to back up your assertions, therefor you are responding with demeaning quips, learn the new stats, learn how to calculate value in a player, get out of the middle ages
Disgusted
June 29th, 2012
6:34 pm
this article points out he is down ONE MPH on all his pitches, not 3 or 4 as Mark stated above, yet his FIP (fielding independent pitching) is pretty much the same as it always was, it appears that his high BABIP is a result of unlucky results on ball in play (which is a regression from his extremely lucky results on balls in play the prior two years)
That article gives me hope on Johnny for next yr Nick B. In essence, hold on to him but for now I don;t know what Fredi can do with him right now. You cannot DL him, cannot really send him down, could put him in middle relief low impact situations, but its a quandry and a tough call for Fredi.
Hope he gets it back in ‘13. Maybe a better second half, hope so.
Bozo ( The Clown )
June 29th, 2012
6:37 pm
I would like to know what it is specifically that Bryce doesn’t like about my people.. I mean Maybe he was touched “down under” in the playground area at McDonalds by RONALD, or maybe a b day party as a child went sour in a hurry after one of my colleagues asked him just how “tender” he wanted his steak while squeezing his thigh .. these are the questions that need answers DOB!
NickB
June 29th, 2012
6:37 pm
Disgusted
the reason Kingman has a higher WAR than Carter is that Carter had some really bad last 4 years that gave him negative WAR, if you look at their 10 prime years, Carter was much better, Kingman just ended his career a little better is all.
Mark
June 29th, 2012
6:37 pm
Nick, you must be like the fat guy off MoneyBall with all your stats. Uggla would not have fit into their stats and money paid though…
Disgusted
June 29th, 2012
6:39 pm
I will let the formulas compute WAR, but WAR in of itself does not tell the whole story.
If a guy is hitting 35 bombs, 35 doubles and has 110 RBI’s and has a low WAR, he cannot be useless.
Some guys do not walk alot so the modern day stats will short change that particular player.
One area I can see advances stats being looked at is at non-close relief pitchers. ERA’s and W-L do not mean much for relief pitchers. Have to look at other things.
Once again thanks for that link onVenters, I have hope now.
NickB
June 29th, 2012
6:40 pm
Disgusted
as far as Freeman is concerned, due to the high level of offense from first basemen, it’s ALWAYS going to be harder for Freeman to post 2 WAR than say Uggla, or a SS, just because the overall level of play is lower at those positions, remember WAR is weighted by position, so Freeman’s numbers are compared to Pujols and Fielder, and Votto …etc Uggla is compared to Weeks and Hill and Infante and a bunch of really mediocre players at 2B
DS1
June 29th, 2012
6:40 pm
Disgusted
Concerning Venters, unless he is hurt (and they swear he isn’t) you just keep running him out there. I’d love to see FW call our buddy Billy Wagner to come down to ATL just for a visit for a week or so.
Just to sit down and talk with the players about their game.
NickB
June 29th, 2012
6:41 pm
disgusted
it would be impossible for a guy to hit 35 HR’s, 35 doubles and have a bad WAR, not even Adam Dunn and his butcher meat hook for a glove managed to do that
Disgusted
June 29th, 2012
6:42 pm
I will take another look on basseball refernece on Kingman vs Carter, but that is very fair Nick.
Hey, we can agree to disagree. Hey, I can compute the other stats but have to depend on Fan Graphs to compute WAR, BAIP, VORP and the other stuff.
Info overload. Good for execs who are well paid, lots of info for a paying fan
DS1
June 29th, 2012
6:43 pm
Disgusted
A player with that many bombs and doubles is not going to have a low WAR.
The main thing I don’t like about war is all the people that suffer because of it. (little blog humor)
DS1
June 29th, 2012
6:44 pm
War
What is it good for? Absolutely nothing. Say it again ya’ll…………
NickB
June 29th, 2012
6:44 pm
I have always looked at 3 stats for relievers:
BB% ,K% and inherited runners scored
like you said ERA is pointless cuz if you come in and give up a double with the bases loaded ,those runs go to the pitcher who put them there, (not to mention one really bad appearance can ruin a years ERA since relievers don’t pitch that many innings)
I like a guy who doesn’t walk too many, K’s a bunch and doesn’t let runners he inherits score, now there are exceptions, guys like Kimbrel and Venter’s can often get away with walk cuz their K % is so ungodly, but they are rare
MikeInFl
June 29th, 2012
6:44 pm
it appears that his high BABIP is a result of unlucky results on ball in play (which is a regression from his extremely lucky results on balls in play the prior two years)
I’m not anti-stat, but this kind of comment gets to me… his BABIP is high not because he’s unlucky; his BABIP is high because batters are hitting the ball harder against him. His line drive rate is way up; and his % of flyballs that are home runs is way up.
He still gets his strikeouts, and doesn’t walk many more than he did before. But batters are teeing off on him when they make contact.
I enjoy stats, but I think the sabres go too far in assuming that if a pitcher is striking guys out and not walking batters, he is automatically pitching well (why I can’t quite buy into FIP).
NickB
June 29th, 2012
6:45 pm
Oh, hell i don’t calculate WAR, I let fangraphs handle that crap, but I use it a a quick reference number to gauge two players who play the same position, or to refute the idea that “PLAYER A SUCKS CUZ HIS BATTING AVG IS .250…”
Dadgum.......
June 29th, 2012
6:47 pm
When you are playing your division rival and leader, you don’t rest anybody unless they are injured! Period. End of discussion.
Also the Braves need to be looking for a #1 starter not a rental and be willing to pay the piper. To me that is Greinke.
Disgusted
June 29th, 2012
6:47 pm
Do you agree that Freeman’s got value that is higher than his WAR shows.
I think so, and if he were healthy he would be a 25 HR and 95 to 100 RBI guy this yr in his second yr.
As for a 110 RBI who had a bad WAR, an example of that was Batista (Tony or Jose) for Montreal in 2004. He had 33 HR and 110 RBI but had a .241 AVG and .272 OBP that yr.
The second highest RBI guy was in the 60’s on that team.
NickB
June 29th, 2012
6:47 pm
MikeinFl
all evidence points to pitcher’s who give up flyballs not having much control over how many go out for HR’s….
I think it would be impossible for Venter’s to have so many ground balls yet for his BABIP to stay as low as it was though, heck, Maddux had a year where he gave up the most hits in the league. Bad luck on balls in play DOES happen
Mitchell
June 29th, 2012
6:49 pm
So given that the median win total for the wild card has pretty consistently been at or around 90, what odds do we give the Braves of going 50-27 the rest of the way?
I’d say about 1%.
Wouldn’t it be nice if there was one supposed “schock jock” in this town who would ask that question?
They always seem to like interviewing Fredi Gonzalez and Frank Wren on 680 after we’ve managed to pull off a mini win streak
I wonder if that’s a coincidence.
Not likely to ever hear pointed questions directed at Frank Wren in the midst of an eight game losing streak.
It seems like a pretty obvious question though. I mean, it’s not like we’re going to win the division. That’s pretty much off the table at this point.
I just would be curious to know what Fredi or Chipper or Huddy’s answer would be to the question, “Is this team capable of going 50-27 the rest of the way? What about 47-30? What really makes the Nationals any better than the Braves?”
I don’t know if I’m Chipper Jones, in my final season, how I could stand to see a the Nationals win this division after being a doormat for more than a decade.
Honestly, I’d rather see the Phillies come back and win it than the Nats.
NickB
June 29th, 2012
6:50 pm
No, I don’t think Freeman was better than a 2 WAR last year, his lack of range at first base hurt him (and scoops aren’t enough to offset that )
this year, his range has improved and he’s almost worth the same this year as all of last year, just do to defensive improvements.
Like I said, first base is the most talent loaded position in the game, it’s really hard to be one of the top 5 over there, you gotta be Pujols, Votto ,Fielder, Tex good .
cowdogit
June 29th, 2012
6:51 pm
Bring up the speed , send down the Hippo’s .Speed wins close games .
Disgusted
June 29th, 2012
6:51 pm
“Oh, hell i don’t calculate WAR, I let fangraphs handle that crap, but I use it a a quick reference number to gauge two players who play the same position, or to refute the idea that “PLAYER A SUCKS CUZ HIS BATTING AVG IS .250…””
Well Nick, I cannot argue with that. Hey, there were seasons that Cal Ripken and Brooks Robinson hit in the .250’s and had real value to the team.
Brooks Robinson hit .234 for the 69 Orioles but given his defense, power and clutch hitting over the course of that yr, anyone who watched him would be a fool to say he did not have real value. Those 1969 to 71 Orioles teams should have had 3 WS champs, but it was not to be. Got one instead.
DS1
June 29th, 2012
6:53 pm
Mitchell
No dipstick, they’d have to go 50 and THIRTY SEVEN to get to 90 wins. At 50-27, they’d have 10 more games to go.
And to go 50 and THIRTY SEVEN, they only have to play .575 ball.
What a dumazz! Get the math right before making stupid posts.
MikeInFl
June 29th, 2012
6:54 pm
Nick, his line drive % is at 23%, up from 10 and 14 in previous years. Is it not reasonable to think that his BABIP has gone up not because of luck, but because hitters are hitting line drives where they used to hit ground balls or fly balls?
His GO/AO is about the same, but his GB/FB ratio again is way down….
He’s not unlucky; he’s getting hit hard.
NickB
June 29th, 2012
6:54 pm
Mitchell, Mitchell, Mitchell……..
you are asking the wrong question:
for the sake of argument, let’s assume that 3 games is too much to overcome in the division…
these are the 6 teams who will be in the race for the 2 WC spots:
Mets
Braves
Cards
Pirates
D-Backs
Giants/Dodgers
do you think all of these teams will go 50-wtvr? do you think 4 will win 50 more games?
IMO, it’s only going to take 85 games to get the WC and that means going 45-32 which is extremely likely
keylargo
June 29th, 2012
6:56 pm
Harper deserves to be thrown at for grabbing Simmons’ ankle and I wouldn’t mind seeing Jose Reyes squirming in the dirt after the DP when he hit Freddie. Yes, it’s Freddie’s responsibility to get down but Reyes arm action was parallel to the ground which is the only reason Freddie got hit.
NickB
June 29th, 2012
6:56 pm
crap I copied Mitchells bad numbers and hence messed up my own!! good catch DS1!!
DS1
June 29th, 2012
6:56 pm
NickB
He’s sucked you into his incorrect numbers…………..
64 year Braves fan
June 29th, 2012
6:57 pm
If Prado is not sick or injured, Fredi is a bigger bozo than I thought he was.
DS1
June 29th, 2012
6:57 pm
key
Too many wusses playing the game these days.
NickB
June 29th, 2012
6:57 pm
I think Venter’s is being squeezed a bit more by the umps as well, and he is getting a few more balls up as a result.
I still think he will be okay if he really is healthy
Jaded Braves Fan
June 29th, 2012
6:58 pm
Failure to come through in the big moments has been in the Braves’ DNA since 1996, and I’m not sure how you go about fixing that. We’ve changed players and hitting coaches, but nothing seems to rectify the problem. This team consistently hits worse in the clutch than they do in normal situations.
Past history can weigh on your mind. That’s how Boston can go 86 years without winning a World Series. Maybe the Braves’ hitters are too cerebral. Maybe we need some guys like the ‘04 Red Sox had who are too dumb to know or care about our legacy of failure in the big moments.
DS1
June 29th, 2012
6:58 pm
64 years……..
DOB says Prado has been suffering from a sorry hammy.
DS1
June 29th, 2012
7:00 pm
Jaded
Do you have facts to back up that claim? Just wondering?
MikeInFl
June 29th, 2012
7:01 pm
Oh I’m not giving up on him – he still has great stuff. Just having a tough year.
Venice Jim
June 29th, 2012
7:01 pm
Wayne – I am ashamed of my lack of math skills – well done…
NickB
June 29th, 2012
7:01 pm
IMO, what the team needs is time, lots of kids in the field, lots of kids on the staff. It’s remarkable such a young team can even conjur up an over .500 record. Historically, this just doesn’t happen that often.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
7:02 pm
If Prado is not sick or injured, Fredi is a bigger bozo than I thought he was
Do people read the blog, twitter, or any news source before making these stupid statements?
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
7:03 pm
This place gets so boring. Same thing everyday. All the time. Reliving the same old stuff, day in, day out.
I think the funnest times here is when nolie, uga, and other high tempered vets of the blog go at the dummies, or in uga’s case – McGuirk and LM. Haha
NickB
June 29th, 2012
7:05 pm
I love this time of baseball season, All Star Game approaches, trade talks start up, start to hit the dog days of summer and teams start to see what they really are.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
7:06 pm
I love this time of baseball season, All Star Game approaches, trade talks start up, start to hit the dog days of summer and teams start to see what they really are.
Trade rumors are my favorite part of the season…. Live for this.
brian
June 29th, 2012
7:07 pm
Wilson no longer needs to be in the starting lineup of a MLB club
brian
June 29th, 2012
7:08 pm
I am out of town but where is Prado????
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
7:08 pm
Braves theme song for this series:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAMLa5ZC-B4
brian
June 29th, 2012
7:09 pm
braves need to put up or shut up this weekend.
DS1
June 29th, 2012
7:09 pm
brian
I prefer Jack “Jumpin Jack Flash the Leather” Wilson than The Rev.
VJ
And I didn’t have to take off my shoes to count that up either………..
Jaded Braves Fan
June 29th, 2012
7:10 pm
“Do you have facts to back up that claim? Just wondering?”
Sure. Six straight postseason series losses. Worst September collapse in NL history last year. Near collapse in 2010. Eight straight World Series losses.
Those numbers don’t directly relate to the offense, but those of us who were around to remember those games know it’s usually been the bats that haven’t come through in the big moments.
I’m usually not even one who pays much mind to “clutch” hitting. I think clutch is an often-overused buzzword. But the Braves’ have such a substantial body of work when it comes to failure in the clutch that it’s almost impossible to ignore.
brian
June 29th, 2012
7:10 pm
love to hear that the braves have the flexibility to do the big trade. Greinke, Hamels or bust
NickB
June 29th, 2012
7:10 pm
Jon Heyman reporting that the Dodgers are the favorite to land Dempster as they never stopped talking to the Cubs after he went on the DL
Sopheee
June 29th, 2012
7:13 pm
Feel better soon, ‘teen ‘teen.
Murph
June 29th, 2012
7:19 pm
love to hear that the braves have the flexibility to do the big trade. Greinke, Hamels or bust
I don’t think the Phillies would trade Hamels within the division… or that the Braves would give the Phillies the prospects it would take to land Hamels.
Teheran might be having a down year, but he’ll figure it all out… and I don’t want to have to face him 5 or 6 times a year after he does.
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
7:20 pm
Yuer Anus of the Tokyo Dragons writers reporting Braves are looking at a reunion with Kenshin Kawakami.
Waffle House or Bust
June 29th, 2012
7:20 pm
Ha Ha!! I predicted three things from this series and one of them already has happened. I knew Fredi would mess with the lineup. My other two predictions…
2. Braves lose 2 of 3 to Nats.
3. Some bloggers will continue to post the season is early.
Enjoy the game suckas!
Efrim
June 29th, 2012
7:21 pm
Like I said, first base is the most talent loaded position in the game, it’s really hard to be one of the top 5 over there, you gotta be Pujols, Votto ,Fielder, Tex good .
Completely agree.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
7:22 pm
It is difficult to be confident about this series, which is why a sweep of Arizona would have been in the Braves best interest.
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
7:23 pm
Frank will lead you down that road of the Greinke’s and the Dempster’s, but has his sights set on that swift lefty of the M’s. His 21 homeruns given up and all.
NickB
June 29th, 2012
7:24 pm
It’s why i think that Freeman will never be much more than slightly above league avg at first. Not unless he cuts down on his K’s, increases his walks and can add 5-19 HR’s per season.
but he is only 22, all of the above things are certainly doable.
George
June 29th, 2012
7:24 pm
Mike
June 29th, 2012
6:30 pm
Well, the manager the Braves should have hired is in town tonight. Let’s see how his team matches up against fredi’s team.
***************************
Hi all
Yup he would have been a good choice for us. For those newer fans DAVEY used to be our secondbaseman and holds the record for most HRs by a BRAVE 2nd basman
NickB
June 29th, 2012
7:26 pm
I would have much preferred Tito Francona, guy knows his player’s numbers to a T , and has a similar amount of player respect as Bobby had
DS1
June 29th, 2012
7:28 pm
NickB
We really don’t need Freddie to be a perennial all star first baseman. Just a darned good one will do……………
Heck, if he can hit 275/340/480, I’d be happy considering his defense. (which I think is better than some give him credit for)
George
June 29th, 2012
7:29 pm
Opps FREDI ’s mind went again [not unuseal] he forgot to put MARTIN in lineup.
Efrim
June 29th, 2012
7:30 pm
Jon Heyman reporting that the Dodgers are the favorite to land Dempster as they never stopped talking to the Cubs after he went on the DL
Similar systems, us and the Dodgers. They have a lot of arms as well. My guess is knowing the GM, he’d be willing to trade them. They are clearly in a different position than we are.
DS1
June 29th, 2012
7:30 pm
and we had a boat load of folks that thought Bobby V would have been a good manager for the Braves. How’s that one working out for the Red Sox?
Mitchell
Where’d you go, kid? Too embarrassed to post after that math screw up?
Brava
June 29th, 2012
7:31 pm
Go Braves! Swat some gNats!
Mixxo
June 29th, 2012
7:32 pm
Stop the OWNAGE!!!!
DS1
June 29th, 2012
7:32 pm
Brava
This would be a good time to get that gNat monkey off our backs!
George
June 29th, 2012
7:34 pm
Outta here for game, Lets get a W tonight.
Rick
June 29th, 2012
7:34 pm
DS1, even funnier is that some people thought Ozzie Guillen would have been a good choice for the Braves.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
7:36 pm
This game may be more winnable than the next couple, but they are facing a lefty, which should give them fits with their weakened line up.
David O'Brien
June 29th, 2012
7:37 pm
It’s 101 degrees for the first pitch here in Atlanta. At 7:35 p.m. Seriously.
Brava
June 29th, 2012
7:38 pm
Indeed it would, Wayne.
Mixxo
June 29th, 2012
7:38 pm
OK, I’m out.
Ballgame….already.
Lets at least win one of these.
ncbravesfan90
June 29th, 2012
7:38 pm
I know its hot temperature wise, but I don’t ever recall seeing the humidity as low as 20% for a start at the end of June. It definitely could be worse.
Mixxo
June 29th, 2012
7:38 pm
It’s a dry heat.
David O'Brien
June 29th, 2012
7:40 pm
Braves organist played “Send in the Clowns” when Harper stepped to plate. That was a clown move, bro. (But well done.)
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
7:41 pm
I am sick of Harper being a Braves killer already.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
7:41 pm
I like it
Mixxo
June 29th, 2012
7:43 pm
They’re teeing off on poor D.
JC Brave
June 29th, 2012
7:43 pm
YEAH!!! That’s the way to start it out!
Go Braves!
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
7:43 pm
Nothing good happening here yet.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
7:44 pm
the song, not the hit, btw
brian
June 29th, 2012
7:44 pm
come on Delgado – retire the side, get to the bench, and get a cold washcloth around the neck
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
7:45 pm
Delgado is struggling with his command. That is a bad thing.
DS1
June 29th, 2012
7:45 pm
What is that obnoxious noise in the radio broadcast background after some pitches?
brian
June 29th, 2012
7:46 pm
don’t want Dempster – he is Lowe redux.
Garza is fine, Greinke is better, Hamels is ideal
Mixxo
June 29th, 2012
7:46 pm
Crap!
Venice Jim
June 29th, 2012
7:46 pm
Excellent!
Brava
June 29th, 2012
7:46 pm
Awesome DP!
JC Brave
June 29th, 2012
7:46 pm
Miracle!
DS1
June 29th, 2012
7:46 pm
Nice turn, kid.
brian
June 29th, 2012
7:47 pm
Harper can play ball – incredible for someone his age
MIBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
7:47 pm
Nice DP!
TNScott
June 29th, 2012
7:47 pm
Another Andy Dandy turn of a DP.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
7:47 pm
That was a swell and necessary double play turned in the Braves favor, but Delgado’s lack of command was troublesome in the first inning.
DS1
June 29th, 2012
7:48 pm
No more in game for me tonight. Later fans.
Bo Graves!
Murph
June 29th, 2012
7:48 pm
Fredi is going to over-manage… watch… I bet he gets someone warming up after Delgado gives up one run, takes him out after 2.
brian
June 29th, 2012
7:48 pm
looking at the splits – trying to figure out why Wilson is still on an MLB roster
brian
June 29th, 2012
7:48 pm
looking at the splits – trying to figure out why Wilson is still on an MLB roster
Efrim
June 29th, 2012
7:53 pm
They have a heck of a rotation. Detwiler as their #5.
nolie
June 29th, 2012
7:53 pm
BALLGAME!!!
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
7:54 pm
What, is Simpson scared to say Braves might make a trade? Medlen belongs in the pen, especially how Venters has been.
Efrim
June 29th, 2012
7:55 pm
Be very interesting to see how Heyward reacts to a cold streak. His walk rate is down, so let’s see if he becomes a bit more patient as pitchers really never stopped coming after him….
nolie
June 29th, 2012
7:56 pm
walk rates are usually down when you think you can hit everything thrown up there
keylargo
June 29th, 2012
7:58 pm
Morse has his little finger off the end of the bat and has an interlocking grip like a golf grip.
ncbravesfan90
June 29th, 2012
7:58 pm
Delgado not fooling anyone tonight. Kind of scary to think considering the Nats have not faced him before, usually takes a couple times through the order to get to a new guy….
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
7:59 pm
Damn their pitcher just breezed through our guys while Delgado probably already needs an oxygen mask.
Fan since '66
June 29th, 2012
7:59 pm
Randall has great life on the fastball if he can just start locating a little better.
Mixxo
June 29th, 2012
8:00 pm
Nasty.
nolie
June 29th, 2012
8:00 pm
lucky call there
Rick
June 29th, 2012
8:01 pm
Delgado is just missing his spots.
Fan since '66
June 29th, 2012
8:02 pm
He appears to have a nice changeup too.Could be a good night
flange1
June 29th, 2012
8:03 pm
I saw Peter Gammons on MLB Tonight say that the Braves had decided NOT to pursue an arm, that JJJ had shown them he was back and that Minor RG and JT would battle it out for the 4th and 5th spot.
He started with the same looking for an impact pitcher that is going and around but then said the Braves brain trust had decided against looking for pitching..
Not really sure how accurate Gammons is these days..
Fan since '66
June 29th, 2012
8:04 pm
Gimme a call, blue!
Mixxo
June 29th, 2012
8:04 pm
This isn’t gonna be good.
ncbravesfan90
June 29th, 2012
8:04 pm
Pitch ahead!!!!!!!
nolie
June 29th, 2012
8:04 pm
need another dp already
Mixxo
June 29th, 2012
8:04 pm
uh oh…..hap-tipping reference from Glav already!
Mixxo
June 29th, 2012
8:05 pm
Glav knows the deal.
Fan since '66
June 29th, 2012
8:05 pm
Geez, all these seeing eye ground balls.
JC Brave
June 29th, 2012
8:05 pm
Delgado is making them look like idiots!
Awesome work! His best stuff is showing!
Put it in the Loss column!
keylargo
June 29th, 2012
8:05 pm
looking at the splits – trying to figure out why Wilson is still on an MLB roster
Brian – I’ve been reading your ripping Jack Wilson post and I’m wondering why you’re here. GTFOH.
ncbravesfan90
June 29th, 2012
8:06 pm
If anyone doesn’t think Frank Wren is desperately working to acquire a starting pitcher, your fooling yourself.
Fan since '66
June 29th, 2012
8:06 pm
GOT to fix that location, kid
Mixxo
June 29th, 2012
8:07 pm
I like Jack….a lot!
StingerSplash
June 29th, 2012
8:07 pm
Does anyone have the link for an online audio stream of the game, since for some reason I can’t get the MLB.com feed to work?
Brava
June 29th, 2012
8:07 pm
How stupid.
Mixxo
June 29th, 2012
8:08 pm
Too fat to get back and cover your plate Brian?
ncbravesfan90
June 29th, 2012
8:08 pm
And a gift from the home plate umpire.
Rick
June 29th, 2012
8:08 pm
Braves were due there.
phil
June 29th, 2012
8:08 pm
Mac is off his game again….geeesh
Hmmmm
June 29th, 2012
8:09 pm
“Peter Gammons on MLB Tonight say that the Braves had decided NOT to pursue an arm”
well things change daily. Easy for them to say right now but if Minor keeps getting shelled between now and the deadline or someone else gets injured, they’ll be saying something completely different. So I’ll take Gammon’s AND the Braves words with just the tiniest grains of salt
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
8:09 pm
They. Are. Working. His. Ass. Off.
They know Delgado can be wild and are exploiting it like crazy.
nolie
June 29th, 2012
8:09 pm
pathetic
Jaded Braves Fan
June 29th, 2012
8:09 pm
How many times has the pitcher burned us?
phil
June 29th, 2012
8:09 pm
Ballgame!!
Venice Jim
June 29th, 2012
8:10 pm
Only 5 hits the first time through the order…
Mixxo
June 29th, 2012
8:10 pm
Well, he made it 1 2/3rds anyway.
ncbravesfan90
June 29th, 2012
8:10 pm
I’ve seen the Braves do that so many times, giving up a RBI hit to the pitcher. Have to lead MLB in that stat.
njbraves
June 29th, 2012
8:10 pm
Well done Randall….
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 29th, 2012
8:11 pm
What the [heck] is happening??
That was an odd inning…
Rick
June 29th, 2012
8:11 pm
Randall is not pitching well but the Nationals haven’t really hit any ball that hard. Mostly singles on the ground.
phil
June 29th, 2012
8:11 pm
You won’t see Heyward dive for one unless to his side….he should’ve caught that ball….
Oh well.
nolie
June 29th, 2012
8:11 pm
take a backseat phil, I ballgames it a long while ago……
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
8:11 pm
Randall is a mental midget. Geez. We got a staff full of sissies.
David O'Brien
June 29th, 2012
8:12 pm
Not sure why Braves weren’t able to get an out when Espinosa was more than 2/3rd of way to 2nd, but it proved costly.
2K91
June 29th, 2012
8:12 pm
Little League Defense costs us a run!
nolie
June 29th, 2012
8:13 pm
always have to come up with some negative crap to blast Jason with dontcha phil? WYT was it that he did to you anyway?
Fan since '66
June 29th, 2012
8:13 pm
You know phil, and all you other losers, if one run was gonna beat you, you weren’t gonna win anyway. Relax
Bravefaninok
June 29th, 2012
8:13 pm
phil
June 29th, 2012
8:11 pm
You won’t see Heyward dive for one unless to his side….he should’ve caught that ball….
Oh well.
If he dives and misses it 3 runs score and the blog is killing him for diving………
smallmouth6
June 29th, 2012
8:14 pm
Looked like TBall.
JC Brave
June 29th, 2012
8:15 pm
LOL!
What a surprise!
The PITCHER drove in a run with a single!
Efrim
June 29th, 2012
8:17 pm
walk rates are usually down when you think you can hit everything thrown up there
Good point, noles. But when he realizes not all of his swings will result in a positive outcome, will he walk more? Or will the more hits result in pitchers being careful? Maybe the sample of crazy hitting hasn’t been long enough – although a month of plate appearances….
ncbravesfan90
June 29th, 2012
8:18 pm
Is Detwiler even sweating yet? 25 pitchers through 2 innings.
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
8:20 pm
Ass wipes here cant wait for something bad to happen to the Braves. They aren’t intelligent enough to write comments if they’re winning.
Hmmmm
June 29th, 2012
8:20 pm
“Is Detwiler even sweating yet?”
if he is it’s because it’s 97 degrees outside (probably even hotter on the field) and not because he’s getting worked hard
Charlie
June 29th, 2012
8:21 pm
McCann continues to suck with the bat (as he has since last August). Now he’s gone completely brain dead behind the plate, with a crap throw to Jack Wilson ,with a runner all but picked off; then he wastes a throw (too late) to pick off the same runner. The Nats pitcher comes up next, and Randall D. gives him a 2 out RBI base hit (His first hit of the season).
McCann follows with a next inning strike out. McCann is just as lousy as he’s been sine last August.
Seems like 10 days ago, Brian announced that he’d fixed his swing. Obviously, with the help of Dan Uggla.
RISP Braves are a joke. Joke and a Choke Atlanta. And so it goes. Minor League baseball, at Major League price. Yes folks, these are your Atlanta Braves…
Brava
June 29th, 2012
8:22 pm
Heyward was facing AL pitchers who’ve never seen him for most of the month, Efrim. That could have contributed to the crazy hitting. I hope not, but it’s possible.
keylargo
June 29th, 2012
8:22 pm
Mike Stanton is going to be in the HR Derby for the NL.
Bozo ( The Clown )
June 29th, 2012
8:23 pm
what the hell is mccann doing there?? this is clown baseball side note, those stupid kids behind home plate.. im really getting sick of seeing these spoiled rotten children with 300 dollar seats
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
8:24 pm
Randall has the stuff. Once he learns to use it right he will be a real good one.
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
8:25 pm
Nickname for LaRoche should be SLOW MOTION
Capt.Mudd
June 29th, 2012
8:26 pm
@Tomahawk Mafia
If we had swept snakes=3-0………..but we ended up =2-1…………..if we swept and then got swept by DC=3-3…….if we in one vs. DC=1-2……….totals for both series=3-3 or 3-3…….still .500 either way
Capt.Mudd
June 29th, 2012
8:27 pm
Jack–why Fredi?
ncbravesfan90
June 29th, 2012
8:28 pm
If we cant hit, can we play some defense please?
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
8:28 pm
auditioning for the new Bad News Bears movie?
Rick
June 29th, 2012
8:28 pm
Come on Simmons
Charlie
June 29th, 2012
8:28 pm
Jack Wilson, a key part of the loser Atlanta bench. Why the hell does he have a MLB uniform…and the Braves Litlle League calber play continues…
Jaded Braves Fan
June 29th, 2012
8:28 pm
This is just awful baseball. Once again the Braves haven’t shown up for a big game.
Capt.Mudd
June 29th, 2012
8:28 pm
….And the brain hemorage is about to occur
2K91
June 29th, 2012
8:29 pm
Sweet try by Simmons after Wilson’s boot.
This kid really impresses me!
ncbravesfan90
June 29th, 2012
8:30 pm
We will have more errors tonight than hits.
Capt.Mudd
June 29th, 2012
8:30 pm
McCann hurt?
Venice Jim
June 29th, 2012
8:30 pm
Good flippin’ grief…
Ryan
June 29th, 2012
8:30 pm
Dont see Braves scoring 5 runs in this series and it looks like we left are gloves behind. 3 errors
Rick
June 29th, 2012
8:30 pm
Delgado starts to pitch better and then the defense goes in the crapper.
keylargo
June 29th, 2012
8:31 pm
That play by McCann makes me sick. Just quit and let the run in.
Capt.Mudd
June 29th, 2012
8:31 pm
Simmons…true team guy, just what we need and young…..not like that old Raccoon.
Brava
June 29th, 2012
8:31 pm
Good grief, this team will never compete with Delgado and Minor in the rotation. Cheap ass Braves.
Busch Leaguer is Drinking Jim Fregosi's Liquor tonight
June 29th, 2012
8:31 pm
Unearned runs ,looks like a little league game .Turn out the lights this game is over.
David O'Brien
June 29th, 2012
8:31 pm
Three-error inning. Fugly.
They’re reviewing call on Chipper error, but looked like error to me. Not a real difficult play.
JC Brave
June 29th, 2012
8:31 pm
Wow!
What an amazingly breath-taking team the Braves are.
Bravefaninok
June 29th, 2012
8:31 pm
Venice Jim
June 29th, 2012
8:30 pm
Good flippin’ grief…
Agreed…..that was crazy.
ncbravesfan90
June 29th, 2012
8:31 pm
Heck of a throw by Diaz just needs to be caught by McCann and its an out. The ball beat the runner by 3 feet.
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
8:31 pm
Delgado being a sissy again. Lollypop shi* throw from diaz, per usual. McCann scared of the runner. Chipper scared of the ball. Jack now can’t get routiners. Simmons getting overexcited.
Braves look like complete shi*.
Mixxo
June 29th, 2012
8:31 pm
So…..this is what you do when facing the team you’re chasing? At home?
You fall flat on your effing face?
Yeah, ‘playoff club’ alright.
brian
June 29th, 2012
8:32 pm
Enter your comments hereWhy is Wilson even playing if he is going to committ errors?
tmc
June 29th, 2012
8:32 pm
Holy Cow! I know McCann’s defensive technique is bad, but not even making an attempt to catch the ball from Diaz? (while the runner was sliding into home)
You got to be kidding me with that… that was pitiful.
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
8:33 pm
Nats commentator makes snarky remark “that’s some quality baseball right there.”
JC Brave
June 29th, 2012
8:33 pm
Let the losing streak begin!
Fan since '66
June 29th, 2012
8:33 pm
Yes, Charlie, these are our Braves. An above .500 major league team that is far from perfect. But then again aren’t all teams flawed? Settle down, dude, it’s a long season.
2K91
June 29th, 2012
8:33 pm
All we needed was a boot by Freeman and we could have had the extremely rare Infield Error Cycle (and all in the same inning no less!)
Capt.Mudd
June 29th, 2012
8:33 pm
@KeyLargo….we have seen these types of defensive mannerisms repetitively from Mac–just looks un-MLB, I don’t know exactly how to characterize that stuff
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 29th, 2012
8:33 pm
OK, Joe Simpson—ya know what? Since you know so much about it, next time there’s a runner barreling home at the same time as the ball, we’ll put the gear on you, and you cann make the play…
Hmmmm
June 29th, 2012
8:34 pm
walk breaks up perfect game attempt
Sopheee
June 29th, 2012
8:34 pm
That was a circus like inning. Geebers.
brian
June 29th, 2012
8:34 pm
Pitching and defense wins games and championships. We are onetradeaway from the pitching for this year and many years to come. Where is the D?
Mixxo
June 29th, 2012
8:35 pm
Mac’s a beer league softball catcher. Nothing more.
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
8:35 pm
Delgado at 68 pitches. He usually melts down at about 80-90. That would be next inning.
Fan since '66
June 29th, 2012
8:35 pm
Are you kiddin me about Diaz’ throw? That throw was complete crap, into the runner and weak, never had a chance at the plate!!!!
FSUBrave
June 29th, 2012
8:35 pm
this team is totally outclassed by washington..unreal…might get no hit tonite…need another bat and some pitching help…delgado and minor need to be in the bullpen or gwinett
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 29th, 2012
8:35 pm
Ow…
Mixxo
June 29th, 2012
8:36 pm
Joe S. was thrice the player Mac will ever hope to be.
Bank on it.
ncbravesfan90
June 29th, 2012
8:36 pm
Idk why anyone expected anything any different? I mean look at the Braves stats against the Nationals the past 3 or so years. We suck against them. Expected.
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
8:37 pm
For those slamming the D, we hav actually been one of the best fielding teams in MLB all year. But when you have your B-Team out there at 2B and LF, and a cripple at 3B, what can you expect?
keylargo
June 29th, 2012
8:37 pm
Joe Simpson doesn’t make $13 million dollars to make that play. McCann DOES>
Sopheee
June 29th, 2012
8:38 pm
Evacuation time.
Harry Schwartz
June 29th, 2012
8:38 pm
Whew…now THAT was embarrassing. I expected a clown on a unicycle to come out and start juggling for a minute there!
Brooks Conrad must be laughing himself silly right now.
The A Bomb
June 29th, 2012
8:38 pm
Tuesday – Wednesday – Thursday
San Francisco at Washington — your NLCS preview.
Ryan
June 29th, 2012
8:38 pm
Braves cant beat Nats or Phils. We have to lead MLb in unearned runs.again this team will not score 5 runs this weekend.
Venice Jim
June 29th, 2012
8:39 pm
P B Orr – you are a HUGE MORONIC IDIOT – talk like that to McFann again and you will never post on this blog again, you cretinous waste of human flesh…
(no offense intended)…
Bat Masterson
June 29th, 2012
8:39 pm
Was it last night McCann made the nice catch, block and tag at the plate? Was it last night he had the double off the wall?
Fan since '66
June 29th, 2012
8:39 pm
Say what you want about Mac, I don’t care, but that throw was total horsc crap from Diaz.
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
8:40 pm
McCann wussied out. Period. Not the first time he’s done it either.
Brava
June 29th, 2012
8:40 pm
At least we won’t get no hit.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 29th, 2012
8:40 pm
Thanks, V. Jim.
Either way—looks like it might be a good time to just sit back and watch the game for a while…
MIBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
8:40 pm
Good job beating that out, Michael!
tmc
June 29th, 2012
8:40 pm
McFann- catchers are on the field to play good defense (mostly). They even have pads and a helmet to help them when a runner is coming home.
That no-play by McCann was soooo weak, even you can’t defend that.
I’d bet there isn’t another catcher in baseball that would have done the O-Lay and not even stuck a glove out.
ncbravesfan90
June 29th, 2012
8:41 pm
We need something exciting in this game….wish Timothy Miller was singing God Bless America tonight.
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
8:41 pm
and yeah Diaz throws like a little girl which obviously didn’t help.
smallmouth6
June 29th, 2012
8:41 pm
Ready to see the chop, the chant, and wave relegated to history.
phil
June 29th, 2012
8:43 pm
nolie
June 29th, 2012
8:13 pm
always have to come up with some negative crap to blast Jason with dontcha phil? WYT was it that he did to you anyway?
********
wasn’t much of a blast, nolie. He should’ve caught the ball. Nothing more than that.
Harry Schwartz
June 29th, 2012
8:43 pm
Larry, McFann, and Skywerd earning their keep for sure! Jones looked like he was in a rocking chair. The horrible throw from middle-right to FIRST…awful! And what the eff was McFann doing? Was he afraid if he bent over he would split his pants???
WEAK.
Fan since '66
June 29th, 2012
8:43 pm
Mixxo, you do know that Joe S. was a total joke of a major league ballplayer, right?
Jaded Braves Fan
June 29th, 2012
8:43 pm
That was a weak effort by McCann, no other way around it. At least as bad as Heyward loafing on Harper’s ball last month.
Just once I’d like to see the Braves come at home in a big series and not give a wimpy effort. Very disheartening.
Harry Schwartz
June 29th, 2012
8:43 pm
*Skyward*
Bat Masterson
June 29th, 2012
8:45 pm
This blog has the weakest trolls in sports
stizz
June 29th, 2012
8:45 pm
Wren needs to stop screwing around and improve the bench. No telling how hard opposing teams laugh when they see Francisco and Wilson etched into the lineup.
Venice Jim
June 29th, 2012
8:46 pm
Bat – but I’ve been working out…
phil
June 29th, 2012
8:46 pm
Fan since ‘66
June 29th, 2012
8:13 pm
You know phil, and all you other losers, if one run was gonna beat you, you weren’t gonna win anyway. Relax
*********
i am relaxed but you’re a damn fool. No fixin that….
Harry Schwartz
June 29th, 2012
8:47 pm
Yeah, and you fit right in, “Masterson” – bet your hero is Skip Bayless, amirite?
2K91
June 29th, 2012
8:47 pm
Brian was standing straight up at home plate because he was decoying the runner into thinking there was not going to be a play at the plate.
I won’t criticize his route to the throw because the throw was tailing an awful lot at that point and was probably hard for him to read.
As for the throw – Diaz has never been known for his defense or his arm.
I thought it was a pretty good throw for him.
JC Brave
June 29th, 2012
8:47 pm
BOOM!
Go Braves!
ncbravesfan90
June 29th, 2012
8:47 pm
Nah, we don’t need another starting pitcher, remember these guys are young?
Busch Leaguer is Drinking Jim Fregosi's Liquor tonight
June 29th, 2012
8:48 pm
I can understand Fredi giving Uggla a night off ,but why have Prado on the bench on the same night with a lefty staring for the Nats.
Jaded Braves Fan
June 29th, 2012
8:48 pm
Delgado still isn’t a prime-time pitcher.
Turner Field is still a house of horrors.
We still can’t beat the Nats.
No fun.
Bat Masterson
June 29th, 2012
8:48 pm
VJ
MIBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
8:48 pm
For crying out loud . . .
smallmouth6
June 29th, 2012
8:49 pm
Says IlliniBrave: “NATS commentator makes snarky remark “that’s some quality baseball right there.”
Why wouldn’t they? I agree 100 percent. Not a player hater like so many on this blog, but you can see effort when it’s there. It’s not there tonight even though the fans paid to see a professional game and had to drive through that terrible Atlanta traffic.
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
8:49 pm
Yup, thought this was gonna happen. Delgado usually has his meltdown at about 80-90 pitches. Flores just deposited his 79th into the stands. Delgado is done.
The A Bomb
June 29th, 2012
8:49 pm
Time for Wren to get busy if the team wants to compete.
This “Big 4″ deal is starting to unravel big time.
Brava
June 29th, 2012
8:49 pm
WTG Randall. Just keep pouring it on kid. No matter how bad you are, you’ve got a job with the Braves.
ncbravesfan90
June 29th, 2012
8:50 pm
“Time for Wren to get busy if the team wants to compete.
This “Big 4″ deal is starting to unravel big time.”
This.
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
8:50 pm
That cooling vest thing is pretty cool. Then the amonia thing on a wet towel is something new to me, just never heard of that.
Mixxo
June 29th, 2012
8:50 pm
“Mixxo, you do know that Joe S. was a total joke of a major league ballplayer, right?” – Fan since ‘66
Actually, no, I didn’t know that. But, it sounded good.
Then again, I’ve only been a fan since ‘71.
Sopheee
June 29th, 2012
8:51 pm
I miss Beachy.
Hmmmm
June 29th, 2012
8:51 pm
this series is already looking like sweep potential. A combination of poor Delgado+Defense+offense tonight, then their two best starters get the ball on Saturday/Sunday
Rick
June 29th, 2012
8:51 pm
Busch Leaguer, read the article DOB wrote about it.
Fan since '66
June 29th, 2012
8:51 pm
You know phil, and all you other losers, if one run was gonna beat you, you weren’t gonna win anyway. Relax
*********
i am relaxed but you’re a damn fool. No fixin that….
Coming from you phil, I’ll have to take that as an expert opinion. Loser.
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
8:51 pm
Never thought I would see the day when I started hating the Nats and feeling kinda sorry for the Phils. Talk about a role-reversal. God I can’ stand that Bryce Harper!
Mitchell
June 29th, 2012
8:51 pm
3-0 Nats.
Stunning.
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
8:52 pm
Bush leaguer, Prado has a sore hammy. Yeah, let’s have him risk serious injury. Uh, no.
Mixxo
June 29th, 2012
8:52 pm
It’s 4-0 Mitchell.
May as well be 10-0.
The A Bomb
June 29th, 2012
8:53 pm
90 pitches through 4. Again. We rushed this kid as well.
TNScott
June 29th, 2012
8:53 pm
Chatt- That’s been around for decades. As he said just don’t use the household kind.
Jerry
June 29th, 2012
8:53 pm
Well, not much for me to do tonight. My favorite whipping boy Uggla isn’t playing, so I can’t beat him down, and we are already getting our asses handed to us. The will be my only post, so I’ll just say, let the sweep begin. Not gonna be a pretty sight for Braves fans. Especially those they have this deluded notion that this team is gonna make the playoffs this year.
Harry Schwartz
June 29th, 2012
8:53 pm
AMEN, A BOMB! The collapse is looming…starting early this year. Pathetic display.
Mixxo
June 29th, 2012
8:54 pm
The A Bomb -
They think everyone we have down there is a phenom. Great talent judges we have eh?
:facepalm:
nolie
June 29th, 2012
8:55 pm
Delgado has always had command trouble,might always have them. lotsa pitchers stay that way their entire career
David O'Brien
June 29th, 2012
8:55 pm
Scoring change takes away E5 on Chipper and awards Morse with 3rd inning single. Both runs that inning still unearned
2K91
June 29th, 2012
8:55 pm
With all of the physical and mental errors by the infield – I have a hard time blaming Delgado for the 4 runs.
The score should be 1-0.
How many extra pitches has he thrown because we couldn’t get an out when we should have?
tmc
June 29th, 2012
8:55 pm
i really don’t understand Fredi’s choice with the lineup tonight.
Switching everyone around in the batting order and starting Diaz and Wilson on the same night just doesn’t make sense.
We had no chance tonight from the jump.
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
8:56 pm
@CTB: “Delgado has the stuff; just needs to learn how to use it”
You might be right. Ans he seems like a nice kid. But right now he looks like he has the stuff to wait tables at an all-inclusive resort in his native Panama.
Nick
June 29th, 2012
8:56 pm
At what point does Fredi get released? Freeman batting 7th? Simmons 2nd? Come one. How stupid can you be? Chipper clean up? Really? It’s not 1999 any longer. Fredi has proven he can’t keep this team from massive losing streaks. He can’t manage a bullpen and he can’t construct a lineup. Tell us. What can he do well? I know this, it isn’t winning. He took a playoff team and has turned them into garbage. Nats will sweep the Braves with no problems. Again.
Ryan
June 29th, 2012
8:56 pm
This team will never be a playoff team . Just think for the ones who voted for Uggla a all star should of voted for Infante. The hell with this game we will get shutout.Chipper that was an error you must be paying the scorer.Nats play defense show us how .
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
8:56 pm
I hope they have enough courtesy at Turner Field to give away free water to all those sweat hogs in the stands. I know they’ll make some serious bank selling water in the heat, but have some compassion.
Don’t do that Heyward.
Fan since '66
June 29th, 2012
8:57 pm
It did sound good, Mixxo
Harry Schwartz
June 29th, 2012
8:57 pm
Head-first slide into first base?? Hasn’t that been proven futile?? Fail.
nolie
June 29th, 2012
8:57 pm
scouts don’t rate Delgados stuff as all That great
Capt.Mudd
June 29th, 2012
8:57 pm
But @Tomahawk Mafia…I do understand why getting that sweep last night was a must…..as we would have gained a game on DC and, perhaps this series would have a bit more meaning/motivation….whatever. if we lose tonight it’s a two game swing—i got it.
smallmouth6
June 29th, 2012
8:58 pm
Chipper made an error. Don’t blame that one on the kid. Now scoring has gotten political. God help us.
nolie
June 29th, 2012
8:58 pm
pressing against gNats
iTiSi
June 29th, 2012
8:58 pm
Well, at least there’s one thing for sure. We will all know where all the “stupid’ people in the Atlanta area will be tomorrow at about 4:00PM. After this game tonight and with the heat and sun tomorrow afternoon, one would have to be stupid to be sitting out there. So, if anybody wants to take names for a “stupid list”, or make a movie starring “stupid nitwits”, or line up folks for a “smarts” injection they will all be in one spot tomorrow!
ncbravesfan90
June 29th, 2012
8:58 pm
We need offense, defense, starting pitching, and relief pitching at the trade deadline. That’s not too much to ask for is it? Haha
Nick
June 29th, 2012
8:59 pm
This idea that every player we draft should be a starter is hilarious. Delgado, Tehran, Minor, etc…. we could go on and on. Only the small market Braves do this. Then again, we’re the East Coast Padres now. Broke and we’re in a division with 4 of the biggest spenders in baseball. Get ready for many years of this. As long as Liberty media owns their little pet, we’re screwed.
Braint
June 29th, 2012
8:59 pm
When I see Jack Wilson and Matt Diaz in the lineup and Freemanhitting 7th? No interest in watching whatsoever.
phil
June 29th, 2012
8:59 pm
Looking good so far tonight….
Harry Schwartz
June 29th, 2012
8:59 pm
They took away the E5? How is that *not* an error? Looked like he was haulin’ oats.
Mets R Best
June 29th, 2012
8:59 pm
Hello there again Braves fan! The way I figure it the Nats will sweep your hapless Braves and the Mighty Mets, who naturally won again last night, will win their next 3 games for a 4 game sweep of the Dodgers. That will leave my team firmly in second place and put your guys in third, 6 1/2 behind the Nats and 3 games behind the Magnificent and Marvelous New York Metropolitans.
David O'Brien
June 29th, 2012
8:59 pm
Braves go down on 3 straight groundouts in 4th, have gone down in order in three of four innings
TNScott
June 29th, 2012
8:59 pm
A Bomb- I’m afraid that Delgado will be one of those career just below .500 pitchers who will pitch just well enough to get a quality loss on most occasions.
David O'Brien
June 29th, 2012
9:00 pm
Martinez to pitch 5th for Bravos
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
9:01 pm
For the past three years these stupid pesty Nats have been our demons. They must walk into the visitors’ dugout at the Ted and break out into a huge smile.
monty
June 29th, 2012
9:01 pm
I guess the only fireworks will be after the game.
JC Brave
June 29th, 2012
9:01 pm
5th inning and the amazing Braves have more errors than hits!
I love them!
TuffShhhtuff
June 29th, 2012
9:01 pm
“tmc”, that’s exactly what I thought when I saw the lineup tonight. Guess this is not a big series in FG’s convoluted thought process!
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
9:02 pm
Yup, Delgado out. Knew it. The kid just is NOT ready. NOT. Seems like almost everyone knows this but him and Fredi.
Capt.Mudd
June 29th, 2012
9:02 pm
Christian “Amanpour” Martinez hopefully he will bring some good news
monty
June 29th, 2012
9:02 pm
Nats gotta figure these Braves are harmless. Wouldn’t harm a flea.
phil
June 29th, 2012
9:02 pm
It’s a long season.
It’s early.
It’s ok to lose nearly every game we play against these guys.
TuffShhhtuff
June 29th, 2012
9:03 pm
“IlliniBrave”, ever heard the expression, “we have seen the enemy, and they are us”!
Busch Leaguer is Drinking Jim Fregosi's Liquor tonight
June 29th, 2012
9:03 pm
Thanks guys got home late and skipped Dave’s blog.Sorry Dave it won’t happen again.
monty
June 29th, 2012
9:03 pm
2 runs were off error. Not hit hard.
The A Bomb
June 29th, 2012
9:03 pm
So they sell this BIG 4 deal and makes us believe these guys are studs.
It’s all about payroll. These guys are really not ready.
David O'Brien
June 29th, 2012
9:04 pm
Delgado: 4 IP, 8 H, 4 R (2 ER), 0 BB, 3 K, threw 58 strikes in 90 pitches
Mitchell
June 29th, 2012
9:04 pm
DS1
June 29th, 2012
6:53 pm
Mitchell
No dipstick, they’d have to go 50 and THIRTY SEVEN to get to 90 wins. At 50-27, they’d have 10 more games to go.
And to go 50 and THIRTY SEVEN, they only have to play .575 ball.
What a dumazz! Get the math right before making stupid posts.
Damn, you’re right DS1.
I’m really bad at math. You got me there.
That was stupid.
I addressed this topic in an email to a friend earlier and they didn’t correct me so they deserve partial blame. I’d say it’s 50-50 really.
But that suddenly sounds so much more achievable by comparison.
Still, it’s the Braves. Even with a second wild card they’ll still probably lose on the last day and miss the playoffs again.
Called Kimbrel giving up the run last night though. I know my Braves.
Math? Not so much.
phil
June 29th, 2012
9:04 pm
Harper belongs in the grandstands at Daytona next week…..
The classic redneck look!
Braint
June 29th, 2012
9:05 pm
How many different lineups have the Braves had this year? It’s getting ridiculous
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
9:05 pm
Yeah blame Delgado. Some of ya’ll sound as bad as Joe Simpson blaming this poor kid. He wasn’t ready when he came up and now we see why he should’ve stayed in the minors another year. But when you either don’t have the money and/or will not trade certain pieces to get a proven SP, then you force yourself to rush these guys up.
Am I right?
Busch Leaguer is Drinking Jim Fregosi's Liquor tonight
June 29th, 2012
9:06 pm
A Bomb
Liberty has to pay for those discounted hot dogs some how. They chose to have two AAA starters in the rotation.
monty
June 29th, 2012
9:07 pm
Listening to Fredo interview on the radio before the game, was asked about where he gathered his info on other teams and players and such, he made the comment that he didn’t listen to or look at hometown reporters(writers), they made him angry sometimes, “stuff they say(write)”.. Wonder who he was referring to?
phil
June 29th, 2012
9:07 pm
We get 15 more outs….why am i concerned?
iTiSi
June 29th, 2012
9:08 pm
If there was any doubt before who has the better team this year, ATL or WASH, there should be none now.
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
9:08 pm
Delgado defenders are only surpassed in their blind loyalty by Diaz defenders.
The latter will break out all of these situational stats. “But Matty just rakes lefthanders, at night, on grass, when the count is 2-1, off of a slider, thrown sidearm, when Uggla is on deck, and Chipper is not playing, and the hot blonde in row 4 is wearing a yellow top, and… yada yada yada”
phil
June 29th, 2012
9:08 pm
Rise to the occassion or get moving elsewhere….always excuses.
SeaAtl
June 29th, 2012
9:09 pm
Enter your comments here
monty
June 29th, 2012
9:09 pm
Even Glavine said they have the Braves number. Shame since they are the team to beat.
Mitchell
June 29th, 2012
9:10 pm
Anymore ten game home stands on the schedule and they’re gonna have to go about 40-15 by mid-August.
Seriously, 4-0?
Busch Leaguer is Drinking Jim Fregosi's Liquor tonight
June 29th, 2012
9:10 pm
Fredi can’t be talking about DOB, it must be that stringer from the Gwinnett Gazette.
Hmmmm
June 29th, 2012
9:10 pm
“he made the comment that he didn’t listen to or look at hometown reporters(writers), they made him angry sometimes”
If FG’s feelings get hurt by Atl writers …. again I say, no way Fredi survives in NY/Boston/LA where they actually have harsh critics
SeaAtl
June 29th, 2012
9:10 pm
No sane person could expect to be a division leading major league baseball team if you start Diaz, Wilson, and Delgado. Fredi “threw” this game when he filled out the lineup card.
The A Bomb
June 29th, 2012
9:11 pm
You cannot win with one September callup in the rotation, let alone TWO. Neither Minor nor Delgado is ready.
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
9:11 pm
Zimmerman! You’re supposed to catch that! Y’all are playing the BRAVES! Rememer?
smallmouth6
June 29th, 2012
9:11 pm
Phil: When Harper is done watching the races, I hope he comes and joins the Braves. The kid is good and that’s why some people have to find a way insult. I wish he played for the Braves.
Braint
June 29th, 2012
9:11 pm
Monty — look who we are running out there against these guys in this series. Delgado & Minor? Wasn’t Medlen the guy who the Braves hardly ever lost his starts before he got hurt? And he’s not in the rotation, why?
Mitchell
June 29th, 2012
9:11 pm
The Nationals are no better than the Braves.
They’re just not a bunch of p****ies.
P B Orr
June 29th, 2012
9:12 pm
Here’s the story on Gronzolers – 15 position players thrown into 8 lineup spots = 15!/(15-8)!8! = 6435 different lineups. And Gronzo has tried half of them.
Baseball is about continuity and persistence. Gronzo is about oil dripping from his ramshackle Harley and cat scratches on his leathers.
SeaAtl
June 29th, 2012
9:12 pm
Diaz raked lefties in 2009!!!! It’s 2012 – he’s done. It’s obvious.
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
9:13 pm
And right after my comment, almost as if to spite me, “Matty” breaks an 0-14 slide with a double.
Hmmmm
June 29th, 2012
9:13 pm
“doubles on a linedrive to shortstop” is kind like Furcal’s “bunt for a triple” a few years ago
Braint
June 29th, 2012
9:13 pm
Not to say the D didn’t let Delgado down today but his overall body of work this year is not very consistent. I would bet a lot of money Medlen would have better numbers if he got the opportunity…..again.
Bravefaninok
June 29th, 2012
9:13 pm
SeaAtl
June 29th, 2012
9:12 pm
Diaz raked lefties in 2009!!!! It’s 2012 – he’s done. It’s obvious.
He is standing on 2nd base ……yup all done
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
9:13 pm
My power goes off, I find a place to watch the game with power and discover that the Braves have played horribly since I have been away. Frustrating and somehow unsurprising.
ncbravesfan90
June 29th, 2012
9:16 pm
Don’t you just love ABC baseball….
Mitchell
June 29th, 2012
9:16 pm
Not able to watch the game.
Normally that would be a good thing but just seeing the scores at the top of the espn mlb page is every bit as depressing.
It doesn’t get any more predictable than that.
All you need to know is Nats at Braves to roughly guess a 4-0 score in the 5th.
Braint
June 29th, 2012
9:16 pm
Oh yeah, bat Diaz 3rd now….
SeaAtl
June 29th, 2012
9:17 pm
Lol. One hit and not his apologists think Diaz is headed to a batting title….!
Brava
June 29th, 2012
9:17 pm
why take out Martinez after one inning? Geez.
Mitchell
June 29th, 2012
9:17 pm
I must be going now.
Hmmmm
June 29th, 2012
9:18 pm
bourn with some lucky reaches in tonight’s game
TBbravesfan
June 29th, 2012
9:18 pm
not to worry they will not score.
Bravefaninok
June 29th, 2012
9:18 pm
Finally a break…..Make them pay Simba.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
9:18 pm
It would be awesome if the Braves could at least bring in one run in this situation, but that is about like asking pigs to fly.
Rick
June 29th, 2012
9:19 pm
SeaAtl, Diaz is hitting 290/353/435 against LHP this season.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
9:19 pm
Delgado struggles again…. Dear Lord, I hope JJ is back to his normal self…. we need him
Harry Schwartz
June 29th, 2012
9:20 pm
holy ccccrapppp did anyone see that tub o lard leaned back with his gut in the air
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
9:20 pm
I see that Jason Heyward has continued that depressing run of grounders to the right side tonight. His hot streak appears to be finished.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
9:21 pm
Still time for the lefty killers and Wilson to do some damage…. we can still win still win this game
Bravefaninok
June 29th, 2012
9:21 pm
vs Left .290
Home Games .292
He still hits leftys well….
phil
June 29th, 2012
9:21 pm
Simmons beginning to fall back to earth with the bat….
ncbravesfan90
June 29th, 2012
9:21 pm
Squander another chance…ho hum. Hope we have had a notepad out tonight to take notes from Washington on how to capitalize on another team’s mistakes.
njbraves
June 29th, 2012
9:21 pm
Shocker….the Braves come up short again. Who would have thunk it?
The A Bomb
June 29th, 2012
9:21 pm
There’s no magic on this team. Period.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
9:22 pm
Simmons plate discipline leaves much to be desired. He chased a pitch outside the zone on a 1-1 pitch with the bases loaded. The kid needs to be more aware of who is in trouble in that situation.
TBbravesfan
June 29th, 2012
9:22 pm
what did i tell yall. so predictable are our braves.
David O'Brien
June 29th, 2012
9:22 pm
Rough night for the kid Simmons, an error, groundout to leave two stranded in third, and flied out to leave ‘em loaded in fifth
Hmmmm
June 29th, 2012
9:22 pm
braves making small strides, now they need to try to get a runner to 3rd with less than 2 outs … after they do that they can start trying to score a run, we’ll work on tying the game later (but probably not tonight, too much to do and too little time to do it to try working on tying this game)
usnavyvolfaninva
June 29th, 2012
9:22 pm
C’mon, Braves!! Please for the love of God beat the nationals, just once!
keylargo
June 29th, 2012
9:23 pm
Delgado struggles again….
I bet he hasn’t had that poor of defense played behind him for 3 years.
Hmmmm
June 29th, 2012
9:24 pm
“Rough night for the kid Simmons”
he easily gets a free pass, kid is just a rookie in his first year (first month) of major league baseball
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
9:24 pm
Simmons beginning to fall back to earth with the bat….
Coulda said so myself. Did anyone think he was gonna keep up a .330 batting average? He got “rushed” to the bigs for his glove, not his bat.
He chased a pitch outside the zone on a 1-1 pitch with the bases loaded. The kid needs to be more aware of who is in trouble in that situation.
Indeed. His stance might look like Chippers, but his swing and plate discipline is more like Francoeur.
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
9:25 pm
How did Uggla not laugh after saying “get a spark from Jack”?
Bozo ( The Clown )
June 29th, 2012
9:25 pm
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
Uggla quote ” get a spark from Jack Wilson” my gosh, these guys could double as stand up comics
The A Bomb
June 29th, 2012
9:26 pm
I love how most around here re-assess a player’s career potential based on their last at-bat.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
9:26 pm
he easily gets a free pass, kid is just a rookie in his first year (first month) of major league baseball
What about Rev? BTW,Simmons might make 8 errors just like Rev did, if he keeps it up.
I bet he hasn’t had that poor of defense played behind him for 3 years.
True
Hmmmm
June 29th, 2012
9:28 pm
“Anybody who isn’t boiling mad”
boiling mad huh? What does that accomplish? Probably just gives you a headache ….. people who get “boiling mad” probably need to step out, take a breather, and probably find something else to do for a half hour
Felix
June 29th, 2012
9:28 pm
Well look at the bright side guys—at least tonight we won’t have to watch Uggla strike out 4 times.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
9:28 pm
Still catching up on what I missed, but I see 3 of the Nationals runs scored with two outs with one run coming on a two-out single by the pitcher. That stuff gets old and needs to stop.
phil
June 29th, 2012
9:28 pm
It’s not getting beat so much as it is the DANG INCONSISTENCY…..
17 hits the other night, lots of runs and right back to nearly nothing.
Oh well, the real and true fans out there are ok with it.
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
9:29 pm
Yup, the Diaz defenders are using his split stats to justify carrying a guy on the roster based purely on 62 ABs. The guy is mediocre in the field, can’t throw runners out, his baserunning blunders are Braves folklore, and even if you use his lefthanders-only OPS of .780 he’d be next-to-last of the position players (only Mac is worse).
If the guy is that situational, then he should be a pinch-hitter. Oh wait, he sucks as a PH!
TBbravesfan
June 29th, 2012
9:29 pm
I know the nats wish they could play the braves all the time.
Can Of Corn
June 29th, 2012
9:29 pm
ILL-ADVISED DEAL
Frank, making a blockbuster deal to acquire another key player with this manager is ill-advised.
First replace this manager with someone who’s truly competent!
Disgusted
June 29th, 2012
9:30 pm
I am not boiling mad because I accept that this team is not good enough. At least for now.
Delgado is not there yet and neither is Minor.
And Freeman is not where he can be by mid decade. Too much inexperience, not enough from the veterans whom you have to count on (Chipper, Mc Cann, Uggla) so its a frustratingly inconisistent team.
Oh, they can tease you for a time but will break your heart in a moments notice.
Tell me that is NOT a fair assessment.
DAM
June 29th, 2012
9:30 pm
I think our biggest problem is that we have no viable options beyond our main starting 8 and Ross. Diaz? Wilson? Francisco? Hinske? Ugh.
phil
June 29th, 2012
9:30 pm
Boiling mad?
Lol!
Someone needs to get a life.
I can understand perturbed, a bit ticked, stuff like that, but boiling mad? Absurd.
Brava
June 29th, 2012
9:31 pm
Good work, Varvaro.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
9:31 pm
Varvaro looked good.
phil
June 29th, 2012
9:32 pm
We do have 2 hits, 2, really 3 errors and 5 LOB….
What’s not to like?
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
9:32 pm
I don’t mind losing every now and then (cuz, well, we have to), but it does get tiring losing to the Nats. And even that wouldn’t be so bad if we could beat the NL east at a better rate. Well, there’s time to improve. Uggla and Mac haven’t gotten hot yet.
DAM
June 29th, 2012
9:33 pm
and regarding the trade rumor from Jayson Stark, in what world is Jason Vargas an “impact starting pitcher”?
Playoffs!!!
June 29th, 2012
9:33 pm
Minor pitching tomorrow, right? How many games can we keep giving away?
And don’t give me any of that football mentality crap. I’ve been a baseball fan for going on 50 yrs.– this team gives away too many games.
I know the ups and downs of a 162-game season. How much did we miss out on the wild card last year. STOP giving away games!!!
The fact that Mike Minor is still on the 25-man roster is absurd.
phil
June 29th, 2012
9:33 pm
I admit that when I saw the lineup tonight, i paused for a moment…..
Then i remembered that FG came up with it.
Capt.Mudd
June 29th, 2012
9:34 pm
2 hits let’s go Bravos…..let’s dog this pitcher
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
9:34 pm
Given our pitching troubles, I’d love to see Fredi take a risk and start Martinez or Varvaro or Medlen. Certainly can’t do worse than the last several Delgado-Minor starts.
MikeInFl
June 29th, 2012
9:35 pm
I’m boiling mad and I’m not gonna take it any more!
Nah, just doesn’t have the same ring.
Playoffs!!!
June 29th, 2012
9:36 pm
Dump Jack Wilson.. Bring back Pastornicky–at least he can hit. Dump Francisco, and bring up one of those right-handed hitting outfielders from AAA.
phil
June 29th, 2012
9:36 pm
Bad Jason has come back in a hurry…
ncbravesfan90
June 29th, 2012
9:36 pm
How does a hitter get sawed off on an outside pitch?
The A Bomb
June 29th, 2012
9:37 pm
Being carved up by Detweiler, who’s burying location tonight.
Tomorrow, we’ll see our soft-toss lefty giving up shots they’ll be picking up on Cape Canaveral radar.
Disgusted
June 29th, 2012
9:37 pm
“Then again, we’re the East Coast Padres now. Broke and we’re in a division with 4 of the biggest spenders in baseball. Get ready for many years of this. As long as Liberty media owns their little pet, we’re screwed”
In a few yrs we will get there. Even if the francise value appreciates due to the Dodgers and supposed Padres sales, with capital gains tax rates expected to go up, that is less incentive for Liberty to sell, so we are screwed for the forseeable future.
Depends on what happens in the election and the tax issues. For now it ;looks like status quo.
phil
June 29th, 2012
9:38 pm
Bad Chipper is in town tonight too….sigh.
I guess this pitcher IS pretty good though.
And Mac continues his fine hitting since declaring himself fixed 2 weeks ago.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
9:38 pm
I hate first pitch outs about as much as I hate 7 pitch innings. Down 4-0, I fail to see that as being that intelligent.
Harry Schwartz
June 29th, 2012
9:39 pm
Can’t they at least lay off the first pitch!?
Disgusted
June 29th, 2012
9:39 pm
Almost nobody liked the Minor pick when he was first drafted and Minor is not doing much to distinguish himself.
Expect a belt whuppin tommorrow.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
9:39 pm
Dump Jack Wilson.. Bring back Pastornicky–at least he can hit. Dump Francisco, and bring up one of those right-handed hitting outfielders from AAA.
There’s so much wrong with this idea…. Pastornicky doesn’t need to rot on the bench right now, let him keep working in AAA. Rev will be back and ready next year, maybe even this playoffs! No need to dump Francisco unless we’re bringing up a 3B… don’t think Prado (a starting OF) should be the only backup to Chipper.
Harry Schwartz
June 29th, 2012
9:39 pm
“Disgusted” is right-on, I’m afraid.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
9:40 pm
Martin Prado would have caught that ball. Shucks.
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
9:40 pm
Overheard in Nats dugout:
Detwiler, wiping off his face as he sits down, leaning over to Harper: “dude, I had this deja-vu like feeling just now, thinking I was down at AAA for a rehab start, This can’t be a major league lineup. I mean, these guys can’t even get it out of the infield.”
Harper, with a cocky smirk, replies: “nah, these are the Braves, and now they are our b**** !”
tmc
June 29th, 2012
9:41 pm
For those supporting Diaz because he got a hit tonight…
wise up. He was 0-14 before that hit and most of those against lefties.
Agree w/ the guy who posted this isn,’t 2009. He blows and kills us off the bench cause we only got 2.5 RH bats off bench. It’s well past time to get a better option than him.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
9:41 pm
And Mac continues his fine hitting since declaring himself fixed 2 weeks ago.
Seems like my stance of show me some consistency before declaring yourself “fixed” holds true again…. though Mac hasn’t been too too bad, just bad.
The A Bomb
June 29th, 2012
9:41 pm
More statement from the Braves.
Capt.Mudd
June 29th, 2012
9:41 pm
And the second level left fielder lumbers after a fly……was he backed up by a raccoon?
Brava
June 29th, 2012
9:41 pm
Harper is one fugly dude.
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
9:43 pm
@tmc: be careful, dude, there are a lot of Matty-lovers on the blog, and they think that he’s the bomb.
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
9:45 pm
Does every other player from the Dominican player wear a mohawk?
JAFO
June 29th, 2012
9:45 pm
“This team as presently constituted…” The Fwick and Fgrack show has run its course.
The A Bomb
June 29th, 2012
9:45 pm
If anyone deserves a “celebratory beer” tonight it’s Mike Rizzo, who’s one of the five best GMs in baseball. Wren’s not in the same area code. Nats are so much better than the Braves it’s not even close. You see it almost every game these teams have played this season.
TOMY FOURNIER
June 29th, 2012
9:45 pm
ATLANTA##@@####@###@####.SH&**%%$$###!!!!!…THAT’S YOUR TEAM!!!!
phil
June 29th, 2012
9:46 pm
That was a wretched play by Matt….and i like the guy.
Rick
June 29th, 2012
9:46 pm
“and even if you use his lefthanders-only OPS of .780 he’d be next-to-last of the position players (only Mac is worse).”
Versus LHP, his OPS is better than Bourn, McCann, Heyward, and Freeman.
Harry Schwartz
June 29th, 2012
9:46 pm
Diaz is bush league brah
gene garbage
June 29th, 2012
9:46 pm
Evan Gattis is the answer.
Disgusted
June 29th, 2012
9:46 pm
Hey, we need better players than Diaz and I have my doubts he will be in the major leagues after this yr.
As a late bloomer to MLB, he has not had a bad career at all, got the most of his ability but time is comming up.
The whole bench has been disappointing this yr, they have not given us the lift thay they have given us the last couple yrs. Hinske has not been good either. Ross, while not bad has not given the same lift he did last couple yrs.
Down year for the bench and the bullpen save for Kimbrell.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
9:47 pm
More quality work from Varvaro.
gene garbage
June 29th, 2012
9:47 pm
not sure what the question was???
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
9:47 pm
Joe Simpson is being exceptionally annoying tonight. Notice this when Glavine is in the booth. He also seems in love with the Nats and Yankees. He drools over Desmond and Harper.
Harry Schwartz
June 29th, 2012
9:48 pm
Yeah, “THAT’S YOUR TEAM” uh-huh. “Your Atlanta Braves!” Who can only be viewed over-the-air (not pay cable) once or twice a week. Alrighty!
iTiSi
June 29th, 2012
9:49 pm
Words of wisdom from FG’s favorite book titled “Sayings I Live By”: The 50-50-90 rule- Anytime you have a 50-50 chance of getting something right, there’s a 90% probability you will get it wrong.
tmc
June 29th, 2012
9:49 pm
I used to like Diaz in his first go round w/ Braves.
But he’s been below avg for the last few years.
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
9:49 pm
Detwiler is having a blast. You can’t wipe the grin off his face. I can easily see why.
Mark
June 29th, 2012
9:51 pm
Position players the Braves have that do not belong on a major league roster:
Wilson, Diaz, Francisco.
Especially the Braves roster if we want to win games.
TBbravesfan
June 29th, 2012
9:52 pm
yell the nats are having such a good ol time at the teddy.
Powder Blue
June 29th, 2012
9:52 pm
Braves still can’t hit LHP.
JC Brave
June 29th, 2012
9:52 pm
Only a HBP can get these losers on base.
Best offense in baseball.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
9:53 pm
Nice opportunity to score now. Do it!
TBbravesfan
June 29th, 2012
9:53 pm
will we cash in or cash out?
UNCBrave
June 29th, 2012
9:53 pm
Nats have swagger…..Braves need to have Medlen replace Delgado in starting rotation and trade Minor for a pitcher
Harry Schwartz
June 29th, 2012
9:54 pm
Chatt you are so right…even after that base to make it runners 1st and 2nd…laughing it up w the catcher
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
9:54 pm
man, the trolls are out tonight…. i’ll be around
TuffShhhtuff
June 29th, 2012
9:54 pm
Definition of a “miracle”—The Braves scoring even one run right here.
Ralph
June 29th, 2012
9:54 pm
You know something, this pitcher for the Nats is pretty good, but he ain’t that damm good so what does that tell you about the Braves, tellsme they ain’t worth a s*it!
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
9:54 pm
@Rick: I was comparing his LH OPS with the other players’ TOTAL OPS. Because if you want to play that split stuff, his “best” split OPS is lower than almost every other Brave’s “best” split. Only B-Mac, Hinske, Francisco, and Wilson do not have a split OPS higher than Diaz.
So, Diaz is not good enough from one side to alone justify his spot on the roster. Wilson, Francisco, and Hinske are just not good enough period.
phil
June 29th, 2012
9:54 pm
But he’s able to PH…..
I give up.
Disgusted
June 29th, 2012
9:55 pm
Diaz has not been good the last two years. He was a good bench player for us in 2006 and 07, had a down yr in 08, was good again in 2009 and 2010 and was not that good last yr and this yr well, it is what it is.
He gave us 4 good yrs out of 5 from 06 to 10.
One of the good guys in the game who got the most of what he had. He could have given the game up but carved out a 10 yr career.
There is a place for Matt Diaz in the game down the line.
Venice Jim
June 29th, 2012
9:55 pm
trade Minor for a pitcher
Which teams are lining up to trade a superior pitcher for Minor, exactly?
MIBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
9:56 pm
WTG, Marteeen!!
Venice Jim
June 29th, 2012
9:56 pm
Marteeennn!!!
Disgusted
June 29th, 2012
9:56 pm
“Nats have swagger…..Braves need to have Medlen replace Delgado in starting rotation and trade Minor for a pitcher”
No one wants Minor. Not now.
Sopheee
June 29th, 2012
9:56 pm
‘teen ‘teen time.
Brava
June 29th, 2012
9:56 pm
Marteeeeeeeeeen!!!!!
Powder Blue
June 29th, 2012
9:57 pm
“Which teams are lining up to trade a superior pitcher for Minor, exactly?”
If someone knows the answer, please let me know. I’ve got a “can’t miss” real estate deal for them.
Rick
June 29th, 2012
9:57 pm
IlliniBrave, the point that he hits LHP better than half of the starting lineup still remains. What bench players do you think the Braves should have gotten that are within their budget?
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
9:57 pm
What the heck, Wilson? You’re not Chipper or B-Mac. Why can’t you score from second there?
Venice Jim
June 29th, 2012
9:57 pm
But he’s able to PH
Which we were told 4 hours ago…
Harry Schwartz
June 29th, 2012
9:57 pm
Prado – solid! not laughing anymore…
brian
June 29th, 2012
9:57 pm
The blog is an uplifting read tonight
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
9:57 pm
Shutout is gone, that is a victory within itself now.
Powder Blue
June 29th, 2012
9:57 pm
The only problem with Minor is that he’s awful. Worst in MLB awful. Other than that he’s great.
TNScott
June 29th, 2012
9:57 pm
TEEN SPIRIT!!!!
Bravefaninok
June 29th, 2012
9:58 pm
Teeennnnnnnnnnnnn! Gotta score at least 3 here,the washington pen is tough.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
9:58 pm
Prado=Gold…. give him 5 yrs this offseason
MIBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
9:58 pm
Good job with the sac fly, Michael!
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
9:59 pm
Rick: not sure, since I don’t know the budget and don’t know who was available. But Diaz is clearly part of one of the weakest benches in the NL.
Powder Blue
June 29th, 2012
9:59 pm
Michael Bourne is a heckuva ballplayer. Pay the man, cheapskates!
JC Brave
June 29th, 2012
9:59 pm
The morons are scoriiiiing!
Brava
June 29th, 2012
9:59 pm
Mikey!!!
Rico
June 29th, 2012
9:59 pm
I guess Fredi Finally decided Prado was well enough to play. We need a manager
Mark
June 29th, 2012
9:59 pm
Prado is our best ball player. Has been for a couple years.
brian
June 29th, 2012
9:59 pm
Sac fly works for me
Harry Schwartz
June 29th, 2012
10:00 pm
“OnlyBravesFan” who the hell are you? The arbiter of blog comments? Whatever, dude.
brian
June 29th, 2012
10:01 pm
The braves can have Delgado or minor in the fifth starter spot but they cannot have both in the rotation. Delgado is not ready and minor is still too streaky
phil
June 29th, 2012
10:01 pm
I meant why not just play the guy if he’s able to PH…..
No sh*t he actually could do it.
The A Bomb
June 29th, 2012
10:01 pm
Posts talking to the players continue to be hilarious. Good analysis.
Rick
June 29th, 2012
10:01 pm
IlliniBrave, you bitch about their bench but can’t name even one player who you think they should have gotten?
Rico, he said before the game that Prado would be available to pinch hit.
Bravefaninok
June 29th, 2012
10:02 pm
Simbaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Venice Jim
June 29th, 2012
10:02 pm
WOWIEEE!!!
MIBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
10:02 pm
WTG, Simba!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jaded Braves Fan
June 29th, 2012
10:02 pm
I did not see that coming.
Powder Blue
June 29th, 2012
10:02 pm
Woohoo!
Rick
June 29th, 2012
10:02 pm
Simmons! Way to come through.
Brava
June 29th, 2012
10:02 pm
I love you, Simmons!!!!!!!!!!!
TNScott
June 29th, 2012
10:02 pm
ANDY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SeaAtl
June 29th, 2012
10:03 pm
Wow.
BFChris27
June 29th, 2012
10:03 pm
SIMMONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
njbraves
June 29th, 2012
10:03 pm
Wow….love this kid.
The A Bomb
June 29th, 2012
10:03 pm
There’s some magic.
That’s what contenders need.
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
10:03 pm
Yeah that Simmons is just awful.
Bat Masterson
June 29th, 2012
10:03 pm
Uh oh
Bravefaninok
June 29th, 2012
10:03 pm
The kid is for real folks!!!!!!!!!
phil
June 29th, 2012
10:03 pm
No way! I turn back and it’s tied….sweet!
David O'Brien
June 29th, 2012
10:03 pm
So much for that rough night for Simmons. Made amends and then some with that blast.
Sopheee
June 29th, 2012
10:03 pm
Un-evactuate!
brian
June 29th, 2012
10:03 pm
Simmons is a stud. You have to be kidding me on thatHR
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 29th, 2012
10:03 pm
Simba, Simba, Simba!…
WAYTAGO, kid!!…
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
10:03 pm
Cue the second guessing of Davey Johnson by Nationals fans.
JC Brave
June 29th, 2012
10:03 pm
This has to be another dimension…
SeaAtl
June 29th, 2012
10:03 pm
Is their pitcher still grinning?
M.V.P.Heyward
June 29th, 2012
10:04 pm
Season-saver!
Disgusted
June 29th, 2012
10:04 pm
Well, this rally was not expected but a pleasant surprise.
Man, 2 run shot —– No way could we expect a 4 R inning.
And another HR for Simmons and his offense is getting respect from opposing pitchers. No way did we expect him to hit like this. Small sample size but——
Hey, nice surprise.
phil
June 29th, 2012
10:05 pm
Of course he didn’t homer with the bases loaded earlier….
Simmons should be sent down and that right now.
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
10:05 pm
@Harry: yup dude, you gotta watch your step here. There are a lot of folks that think they are the Pope, Einstein, Ghandi, and the Dalai Lama all wrapped up in one. You are not allowed to question these folks, disagree with them, or have a different interpretation of the same evidence.
Harry Schwartz
June 29th, 2012
10:05 pm
That was sweet…too bad they’ll let him go
monty
June 29th, 2012
10:05 pm
That kid has more fire in him than anyone else on the Braves.
Brava
June 29th, 2012
10:05 pm
Wiped those smirks right off those gNats’ faces.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
10:05 pm
The Braves need to continue grinding out at bats, but it will be tough against the Nats pen. Plus, the Braves bullpen needs to be in good form tonight if the Braves want to win the game.
The A Bomb
June 29th, 2012
10:06 pm
Now if the Braves could get something like this on the pitching side —
The BIG FOUR is presently ZERO FOR FOUR.
Ralph
June 29th, 2012
10:06 pm
DOB, he made amends one other time when he made an error that cost us 2 runs with a HR
phil
June 29th, 2012
10:06 pm
The little sh*t pitcher for the Nats isn’t laughing so much anymore……
brian
June 29th, 2012
10:06 pm
Simmons in the 2 hole and heyward batting 3rd. Kind of like that.
Key is still signing Bourn to play CF and leadoff
Sopheee
June 29th, 2012
10:06 pm
Smart, Detwiller.
Rick
June 29th, 2012
10:06 pm
Not smiling anymore are ya?
Disgusted
June 29th, 2012
10:06 pm
As for the bench, comming into the season it looked like a real good bench but it just has not worked to date.
Still not giving up on Ross or Hinske, they do have some good baseball left. I do not know about Diaz or Wilson.
Harry Schwartz
June 29th, 2012
10:07 pm
@Illini – Well put, from a fellow “heartlander.”
monty
June 29th, 2012
10:07 pm
Davey Johnson pulled a FG, guy was tiring and he didn’t pull the trigger, didn’t even have anyone warming up. Sort of cocky.
Rick
June 29th, 2012
10:07 pm
Mark Bowman @mlbbowman
Simmons hits a game-tying homer. He has three homers and two have followed two of the thee errors he has committed in his young career
Ralph
June 29th, 2012
10:07 pm
Simba for team MVP
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
10:08 pm
Crap. The last two games have witnessed the return of crappy Heyward.
(Rob from SC)
June 29th, 2012
10:08 pm
Heyward is Trying to pull and smash everything. Pressure of hitting 2/3?
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
10:09 pm
Whoa, the BUMBS came back? WOW…. (sarcasm)
tmc
June 29th, 2012
10:10 pm
Right on Mark.
Marteen is the Heart and Soul of this (or any) lineup.
Love that guy. Go Teen!!
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
10:10 pm
Durbin needs to hold that Nats right where they are in the 8th inning. Who would have ever thought Chad Durbin would become an 8th inning man for the Braves?
Ralph
June 29th, 2012
10:10 pm
I have been calling for Simmons in the 2 hole and J-Hey in the 3 spot for a couple of weeks, now watch tomorrow Fruti will change it again, bet on it!
Fan since '66
June 29th, 2012
10:11 pm
Told ya folks, just relax. It’s a long game and even longer season. Ya just gotta keep battlin’.
Jaded Braves Fan
June 29th, 2012
10:11 pm
Ha
M.V.P.Heyward
June 29th, 2012
10:11 pm
Durbin? really? What a awful manager we have!
MIBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
10:11 pm
You’re flippin’ kidding me!!
ncbravesfan90
June 29th, 2012
10:11 pm
the usual. can’t stand success.
phil
June 29th, 2012
10:11 pm
Nah….
Just the pressure of being Heyward….
And just like that, bad Durbin returns.
Mark
June 29th, 2012
10:11 pm
Holy crap!
Brava
June 29th, 2012
10:11 pm
Geez. Gas Can is back.
njbraves
June 29th, 2012
10:11 pm
Unreal…couldn’t keep it tied for one pitch. So typical.
TNScott
June 29th, 2012
10:11 pm
So much for that.
Sopheee
June 29th, 2012
10:11 pm
I hate the damn Nats.
monty
June 29th, 2012
10:11 pm
That guy hits a HR against us every time we play them. THrow away the book.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
10:12 pm
This team really pisses me off. My goodness. Battle their butts off to tie and then one pitch into the 8th inning and they trail again.
brian
June 29th, 2012
10:12 pm
Heyward needs to not change a thing whether he is hitting 7th or 3rd
The A Bomb
June 29th, 2012
10:12 pm
That is NOT championship baseball.
NOT SEPARATED AT BIRTH: Fredi Gonzalez and KIng Midas.
Brutal.
Bravefaninok
June 29th, 2012
10:12 pm
Damn…Chad was bound to give up a run eventually,just a terrible time for it.
phil
June 29th, 2012
10:12 pm
Good call, fan since 66…..
No need to worry!
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
10:13 pm
Dang it …
monty
June 29th, 2012
10:13 pm
lotta young pitchers trying to feel their way though.
Jaded Braves Fan
June 29th, 2012
10:13 pm
I warned you Fredi was going to do this. He was going to be fooled into believing Durbin was actually a decent reliever and start using him in more and more important situations.
Though, to be fair to Fredi, no one else in the relief corps is stepping up. Still, Durbin is the same awful reliever he’s always been.
Nick
June 29th, 2012
10:13 pm
Add Durbin to the list of bums that Wren brought in. What a pathetic joke. Durbin, Hernandez, Venters, Varvaro, Gearin. All should never see the MLB level again this year. Worst bullpen in baseball.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
10:13 pm
We’ve still got time to come back guys, and it’s just 1 run….
phil
June 29th, 2012
10:13 pm
The Prado hamstring is all better.
JC Brave
June 29th, 2012
10:13 pm
BOOM!
Just like that.
Mixxo
June 29th, 2012
10:14 pm
Nats ‘want’ this….that’s all.
brian
June 29th, 2012
10:14 pm
Can’t complain about Durbin after how well he has pitched over the past month,but coming off a 4 run inning that is sure a buzz kill
phil
June 29th, 2012
10:15 pm
Durbin gives up one moonshot homer in 2 months and is immediately DFAd by the blog….
Lol
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
10:15 pm
Wow we just cannot beat these guys.
Braint
June 29th, 2012
10:15 pm
I know, wait until one of the hottest hitters in baseball (for the last month) starts to cool off and THEN move him up in the order! Way to go Fredi!
M.V.P.Heyward
June 29th, 2012
10:15 pm
Fredi Gonzalez is not a very good manager. That’s for sure.
monty
June 29th, 2012
10:15 pm
It’s not like Morse hasn’t hit a few HR’s against us.
Nick
June 29th, 2012
10:15 pm
Any manager that uses Durbin in a tie game is either stupid, or retarded. Luckily, we have one that’s both. Someday, Frediot will figure out Durbin is a joke. Maybe not this year. It’s almost July and he’s still trotting him out there. Pathetic loser. I refuse to spend money to watch this team play until Frediot is replaced.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
10:15 pm
Flores clowns the Braves all the time.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
10:16 pm
Worst bullpen in baseball.
Not true… Someone (VJ?) put the stat up earlier… IIRC, we’re 9th, not 30th…
phil
June 29th, 2012
10:16 pm
Durbin gives up a laser beam double….
And now you begin to wonder.
Sopheee
June 29th, 2012
10:16 pm
Club worthy Durby appearing tonight.
Hmmmm
June 29th, 2012
10:16 pm
10:02 they’re the best team in baseball, 10:13 it’s back to being a horrible team
funny blog
brian
June 29th, 2012
10:16 pm
There was nothing wrong with giving Prado a day off to rest a sore hammy. Of course I would not have done it the same night I rested uggla
phil
June 29th, 2012
10:17 pm
Your money, Nick, or taxpayer’s money?
Bravefaninok
June 29th, 2012
10:17 pm
Durbinator has been very good ,can’t fault Fredi for using him.
at least it was a solo shot.
Mark
June 29th, 2012
10:17 pm
I like Heyward. Huge potential. But I wish they’d leave him at 5 or 6. He isn’t ready for the 3 hole. Of course, in Fredis defense which I don’t do often, we don’t have a 3 hitter right now!
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
10:17 pm
Any manager that uses Durbin in a tie game is either stupid, or retarded.
That’s why it worked for a month or so…. Guess we should’ve used Kimbrel. Oh wait, we did last night…
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
10:18 pm
Durbin was the wrong choice to begin the 8th inning to be sure, but O’Flaherty and Venters have had their share of troubles against right handers this year. Tough call. Venters will definitely allow Durbins run to score though.
phil
June 29th, 2012
10:18 pm
But brian, he’s in the game now….night off?
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
10:18 pm
Braves subtract one of those errors from earlier and we are probably tied right now. Can’t make errors against this team.
Jerry
June 29th, 2012
10:18 pm
I wonder where the act of slapping a player on his ass got started. Fredi definitely likes putting his hands on everybody’s butt.
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
10:19 pm
Amazing how maddeningly inconsistent and unreliable our bullpen is.
Brava
June 29th, 2012
10:19 pm
I would rather he had left Durbin in.
Nick
June 29th, 2012
10:19 pm
Every move Frediot makes backfires in his face. What does that tell you? Stupid Bobby Cox protege. Wren should be fired for hiring this career loser.
monty
June 29th, 2012
10:19 pm
Let the roller coaster ride begin: please keep your arms inside and the bar down
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
10:20 pm
How many hits has Venters allowed that a pitcher who ends in good fielding position would have turned into outs?
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
10:20 pm
Venters has no business in the bigs right now. He needs to get straightened out in AAA. Ind blowing stuff.
Fan since '66
June 29th, 2012
10:20 pm
Still not over, phil
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
10:20 pm
Richard Flores @RFlores91
@SportsCenter Aaron hill just hit for his 2nd cycle this season. if something hasn’t happened in 80 years it is #sctop10 worthy
Mixxo
June 29th, 2012
10:21 pm
Walk ‘em loaded!
phil
June 29th, 2012
10:21 pm
Venters has become awful….just sad.
Mixxo
June 29th, 2012
10:21 pm
Attaboy Jonny!
Harry Schwartz
June 29th, 2012
10:21 pm
First time here, eh “Hmmmm?” Comments mirror the proceedings. Natural for fans to get excited when seeing a glimmer of hope.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
10:21 pm
How in the heck do you walk Sean Burnett?
Jaded Braves Fan
June 29th, 2012
10:21 pm
Good lord.
Brava
June 29th, 2012
10:21 pm
I thought Medlen had become Fredi’s 8th inning guy.
Mixxo
June 29th, 2012
10:22 pm
Harper gets a Granny here.
Watch this y’all.
njbraves
June 29th, 2012
10:22 pm
Just unacceptable…these idiots deserve to lose.
TuffShhhtuff
June 29th, 2012
10:22 pm
If Kimbrel can get 3 outs why can’t he get four?
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
10:22 pm
Just an embarrassment to this team to continue throwing Venters out there like this. Unreal
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
10:22 pm
How in the hell do you walk the pitcher? Seriously? Fredi should just go out there and rip him one. This is just ridiculous.
JC Brave
June 29th, 2012
10:22 pm
Come on Venters! I trust you to give up at least two more!
You can do it!!
phil
June 29th, 2012
10:23 pm
Never said it was, fan….
Rico
June 29th, 2012
10:23 pm
Why can”t Venters be sent to the minors to correct his problems? They had no problem sending JJ.
Sopheee
June 29th, 2012
10:23 pm
Sit down, bro.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
10:23 pm
Brava
Oh yeah, I tend to forget about Medlen.
Bravefaninok
June 29th, 2012
10:24 pm
Whew….Jonny
Nick
June 29th, 2012
10:24 pm
Again, every move Fredi makes blows up. Sure, some of it is baseball and just luck, but come on. After August and Septermber of last year, and then the 9 game losing streak and mis management of our pen (Jays and Yanks series specifically) you have to ask if he’s in touch with his players?
TBbravesfan
June 29th, 2012
10:24 pm
you hold to 4 runs for so many innings then you score the next inning you give it back.
Jaded Braves Fan
June 29th, 2012
10:24 pm
At least Ventbro got out of it. But coming back against Burnett and Clippard with this motley crew of a lineup is going to be difficult.
phil
June 29th, 2012
10:24 pm
Good call, Mixxo.
Rip him one? How does that accomplish a thing?
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
10:24 pm
“@MarkZuckerman: And naturally Sean Burnett draws the walk to load the bases for Bryce Harper. Proud moment in Jonny Venters’ career there.”
Then Venters strikes out Harper. This is farcical.
Mark
June 29th, 2012
10:24 pm
Simmons really plays hard. Fun to watch.
That brings up a point. When we had Maddox, Smoltz, Glavine, Avery…those guys competed hard out there and it was obvious. I’m not talking about their obvious talent but just the competitive part. These guys(starters now)minus Hudson, could take a page from those guys on how to pull the damn hat down and get after people!
Busch Leaguer is Drinking Jim Fregosi's Liquor tonight
June 29th, 2012
10:25 pm
Whew!!!! The Braves dodged one there.I guess Johnny just wanted to face the Phenom.
TNScott
June 29th, 2012
10:25 pm
Fortunately, it was a Struggling Hitter vs. a Struggling Pitcher and the pitcher won this round.
Fan since '66
June 29th, 2012
10:25 pm
It is always time to worry in this game. Anything can happen any time. That’s why we love it!
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
10:26 pm
Two nights in a row where a tied game is untied by a solo homerun. That is irritating, but at least it drains some of the drama.
The A Bomb
June 29th, 2012
10:26 pm
The pitching staff may not be the worst in baseball — but other than Colorado there’s not another one more mismanaged in the game.
This is just brutal watching these overrated and overvalued guys being thrust into game situations.
Ryan
June 29th, 2012
10:26 pm
Freddi would answer that by saying he just has to work thru the growing pains.
Bravefaninok
June 29th, 2012
10:26 pm
Brava
June 29th, 2012
10:21 pm
I thought Medlen had become Fredi’s 8th inning guy.
With Minor starting tomorrow,Medlen might have to pitch several innings.
MIBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
10:27 pm
Nicely done, Chipper!
Mixxo
June 29th, 2012
10:27 pm
Run for the Crip!
phil
June 29th, 2012
10:27 pm
Chipper with the meaningless single….
Brava
June 29th, 2012
10:27 pm
Chipper!!!
TNScott
June 29th, 2012
10:27 pm
Hoss!
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
10:27 pm
Let’s go BMAC…. we need ya now. Raise that .061 late inning BA
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
10:27 pm
Good start, hopefully this is no mirage. Chipper really needs to score and tie this game.
Brava
June 29th, 2012
10:28 pm
That’s true, Bravefaninok.
Mixxo
June 29th, 2012
10:28 pm
Automatic DP combo here.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
10:28 pm
dang it Mac… let’s go Matty D
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
10:28 pm
Seems like JV has a focus problem. When you have two runners on and fool around with the pitcher, throwing all but one pitch outside the strike zone, then a real HR threat comes up with the bases loaded and you get serious and pitch great. What’s with that?
ncbravesfan90
June 29th, 2012
10:28 pm
Looks like McCann needs the off day, not Uggla.
Mixxo
June 29th, 2012
10:28 pm
Man he sux.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
10:28 pm
Brian McCann is such a let down this season. He is awful.
JC Brave
June 29th, 2012
10:29 pm
McCann!!!!!!
phil
June 29th, 2012
10:29 pm
Mac striking out is for the best frankly…..
Speaking of going bad.
The A Bomb
June 29th, 2012
10:29 pm
That wasn’t even competitive.
Jaded Braves Fan
June 29th, 2012
10:29 pm
It’s better than a double play.
Nick
June 29th, 2012
10:29 pm
When’s the last time this team actually came back in the 9th to win a game? Chipper against the Phils? It’s so long I can’t remember. Heartless. (See Sep of 2011)
Powder Blue
June 29th, 2012
10:29 pm
McCann’s unreliable these days.
Mark
June 29th, 2012
10:29 pm
Mixxo is right. If we run for Chipper we would have a man on 2nd on that ball in the dirt
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
10:30 pm
McCann refuses to do anything but pull. He’s faced Burnett enough to know what he has and what he’ll do with it.
Powder Blue
June 29th, 2012
10:30 pm
Yeah, if I’ve always liked McCann, but if the Braves are going to pay someone, I’d prefer that it be Bourn.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
10:31 pm
lefty killer….
ncbravesfan90
June 29th, 2012
10:31 pm
And swung at ball 4, but instead a 6-4-3 Double Play….nice.
njbraves
June 29th, 2012
10:31 pm
Diaz sucks…swung at ball four.
phil
June 29th, 2012
10:32 pm
Sigh…..
Mark
June 29th, 2012
10:32 pm
2-1 fastball right down the freakin middle and Diaz takes it.
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
10:32 pm
Now THAT is the Matty Diaz we all know so well!
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
10:32 pm
But Diaz hustles and doesn’t complain. OMG that guy is so terrible.
Brava
June 29th, 2012
10:32 pm
Damn it.
JC Brave
June 29th, 2012
10:32 pm
If you want to lose a game, call 1-800-555-DIAZ!
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
10:32 pm
This team is painful to watch. Such futility and horrible play. Awful, Awful, Awful. Bad at bat after bad at bat. Poor pitching performance after poor pitching performance. Bad managerial decision after bad managerial decision. Most frustrating Braves team since 2006.
Mixxo
June 29th, 2012
10:32 pm
Mark -
Yessir, that ball squirted away plenty for an avg. baserunner’s speed.
NORRIS CHUCK
June 29th, 2012
10:32 pm
Im starting to think they actually like losing to the NATS!
Mark
June 29th, 2012
10:33 pm
3-1 I meant.
Also, with a 3 – 2 count had we poinch run for Chipper we could have sent the runner and we would be hitting with 2 out and a man on 2nd,
phoenix
June 29th, 2012
10:33 pm
I’ve heard of 3-tool players, 4-tool players, even a 5-tool player or two. So how did the Braves end up with so many NO-TOOL players (Diaz, Wilson, Francisco…)
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
10:33 pm
This is over. Let’s just go for Sunday with Huddy on the hill. Tomorrow is a lost cause with Minor.
phil
June 29th, 2012
10:33 pm
Bring back Bourn….
Dump fat Mac. I hate to say it.
Hmmmm
June 29th, 2012
10:34 pm
going to be tough scoring against Clippard in the 9th
Jaded Braves Fan
June 29th, 2012
10:34 pm
Diaz is just not a useful major leaguer anymore. Another washed-up ex-Brave we brought back hoping he’d recapture his former glory (a la Glavine, Jordan, Remlinger, etc.).
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
10:35 pm
@pheonix: now come on, that is not fair. Matt Diaz is a legit HALF-tool player – he hits lefties like crazy!
Nick
June 29th, 2012
10:35 pm
GIDP! If we could just load the bases and do nothing in the 9th, we’d have a signature Braves loss. Don’t worry though, it’s just late June.
JC Brave
June 29th, 2012
10:35 pm
Diaz is just not a useful major leaguer anymore. Another washed-up ex-Brave we brought back hoping he’d recapture his former glory
Glory?
Hahahahahahaha!
TBbravesfan
June 29th, 2012
10:36 pm
no more late inning come back wins for these boys. no sir bob.
smallmouth6
June 29th, 2012
10:36 pm
Maybe another ONE run loss while the second best bench player the Braves have is down at Gwinett.
phoenix
June 29th, 2012
10:36 pm
Can’t believe the scorer took away the error from Chipper in the 3rd inning. What is this, Be Kind to the Elderly Day? He has less range than the statues in front of the Ted.
Busch Leaguer is Drinking Jim Fregosi's Liquor tonight
June 29th, 2012
10:36 pm
McCann looks as bad as I can ever remember ,too many weak off balance swings and taking pitches right down the middle .Fredi should have rested him against the lefty .Now he will start Ross tomorrow against Strasburg.
phil
June 29th, 2012
10:36 pm
It’s the heat that makes us lose….
DAM
June 29th, 2012
10:36 pm
Nice AB by Diaz there — take the best pitch of the AB on a 3-1 count down the middle, then swing at ball 4 for a DP. It’s time to overhaul the bench and replace Diaz, Wilson, and Francisco.
Jerry
June 29th, 2012
10:37 pm
I bet ole Danny boy leads off the ninth. And if he does, I bet he whiffs again.
ncbravesfan
June 29th, 2012
10:37 pm
Well hopefully the Bravos will have better luck next series vs the Cubs
phil
June 29th, 2012
10:38 pm
Minor’s numbers look pretty good….
Jaded Braves Fan
June 29th, 2012
10:38 pm
JC, Diaz actually was a good major leaguer at one time. Had an OPS of .839 or better three different years for the Braves.
But clearly, that Diaz is no more.
TBbravesfan
June 29th, 2012
10:38 pm
Hmmmm-
tough scoring against enybody in the ninth.
Mark
June 29th, 2012
10:38 pm
The biggest tool some of the guys being mentioned have is “league minimum” or close to it. At least I hope thats what it is b/c I’m still dreaming that the guys running the show are trying to win.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
10:39 pm
Oh YEAH!!!!!
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
10:39 pm
JHey is a beast in RF
MIBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
10:39 pm
Great play, JHey!
Bravefaninok
June 29th, 2012
10:39 pm
What a throw and tag!!!!!!!!!!!
Mixxo
June 29th, 2012
10:39 pm
so-so throw…..GREAT tag!
The A Bomb
June 29th, 2012
10:39 pm
Wayward really sucks. Nope — he does.
phil
June 29th, 2012
10:39 pm
Great hustle by Heyward! Nice job!
Brava
June 29th, 2012
10:39 pm
Great play Jason and Simmons!!!
David O'Brien
June 29th, 2012
10:40 pm
Potentially huge play by Heyward there if the Braves can do anything in 9th. Another terrific throw by the RF.
TNScott
June 29th, 2012
10:40 pm
J-HEY to ANDY!!!!!
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
10:40 pm
Heyward has racked up the assists lately. Rick Ankiel is an outstanding athlete, but a terrible baseball player, yet he kills Braves pitching.
phoenix
June 29th, 2012
10:40 pm
Best thing that ever happened to Heyward: fans booing their asses off when he loafed on Bryce Harper’s single (that turned into a double). He’s actually been fielding his position ever since.
Powder Blue
June 29th, 2012
10:41 pm
My 2010 man crush on Heyward is returning. Dude flipped the switch.
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
10:41 pm
Ankiel with a very similar slash line as Diaz. Somewhat reassuring to know that other teams have washed-up crappy outfielders on their bench.
Fan since '66
June 29th, 2012
10:41 pm
Awesome tag by the kid there.
Capt.Mudd
June 29th, 2012
10:42 pm
clippard is due to get blasted
Jaded Braves Fan
June 29th, 2012
10:42 pm
Have we won a game this year when trailing in the 9th?
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
10:42 pm
#CommenceTheChop
Rick
June 29th, 2012
10:42 pm
Tomahawk Mafia, Ankiel actually has some pretty poor numbers against the Braves.
The A Bomb
June 29th, 2012
10:42 pm
It pays to suck for awhile and stockpile young studs. Braves did it in the 80s.
Bobby's Cox
June 29th, 2012
10:42 pm
At least Wilson & Diaz can’t PH this inning
Mark
June 29th, 2012
10:42 pm
I say keep Heyward, Simmons, Bourn, Kimbrel, Huddy, Prado. Listen to offers on everyone else!
ncbravesfan
June 29th, 2012
10:42 pm
That’s a mighty big IF DOB
Fan since '66
June 29th, 2012
10:43 pm
Same pitch was a ball to Ankiel
(Rob from SC)
June 29th, 2012
10:43 pm
but Hinske can
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
10:43 pm
@BC: ah, but Hinske could appear!
The A Bomb
June 29th, 2012
10:43 pm
I gotta say this…..crowds this year have been really good despite the choking and incredible managerial maneuvers.
(Rob from SC)
June 29th, 2012
10:43 pm
Mark
June 29th, 2012
10:42 pm
I say keep Heyward, Simmons, Bourn, Kimbrel, Huddy, Prado. Listen to offers on everyone else!
Keep Freeman too
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
10:44 pm
YEAH!@!!!!!!
Mark
June 29th, 2012
10:44 pm
Yep. I agree
Bravefaninok
June 29th, 2012
10:44 pm
Fab 5!!!!!!!
Powder Blue
June 29th, 2012
10:44 pm
Freddie!
Nick
June 29th, 2012
10:44 pm
Venters has no clue how to do a 1-2-3 inning. How does this happen? He’s shot.
MIBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
10:44 pm
WTG, Freddie!!!!!!
Venice Jim
June 29th, 2012
10:44 pm
FF!!!
phil
June 29th, 2012
10:44 pm
Our poor fans…actually excited, sweating like mad….cheering.
And FF delivers!!
TNScott
June 29th, 2012
10:44 pm
FREDDIE!!!!
Brava
June 29th, 2012
10:44 pm
Freddie!!!!!!
Capt.Mudd
June 29th, 2012
10:44 pm
And Freddy blasted one
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
10:44 pm
Freeman better score. NUFF SAID.
JC Brave
June 29th, 2012
10:45 pm
Every one of these guys could pursue a career as a magician. They pull trick after trick on ways to lose every night.
They must own some kind manual for losing.
The A Bomb
June 29th, 2012
10:45 pm
LOOK AT THAT SPEED!
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
10:45 pm
Wilson would’ve been perfect to have off the bench to bunt Freddie to 3rd
TBbravesfan
June 29th, 2012
10:45 pm
oh no hinski.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
10:45 pm
I foresee a terrible at bat from Hinske.
iTiSi
June 29th, 2012
10:46 pm
Can a hen ski? NO, and he can’t hit either.
Powder Blue
June 29th, 2012
10:46 pm
Hinske is done.
Harry Schwartz
June 29th, 2012
10:46 pm
A “beast” in RF doesn’t botch throws to first, or lollygag to “routine base hits” that turn into doubles (like what happened last time)…
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
10:46 pm
Wrong side Hinske….. try rightcenter…. shoulda just bunted him over. Well, anyways, we got Prado
phil
June 29th, 2012
10:46 pm
Hinske must drink a gallon of beer a day to stay that fat….
1 down….
TBbravesfan
June 29th, 2012
10:47 pm
wasted out could have got him over
ncbravesfan
June 29th, 2012
10:47 pm
Way to get the runner over
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
10:47 pm
Damn, I said it but hoped it wouldn’t happen. Hinske.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
10:47 pm
Nothing terrible, just outmatched with that change up. Prado has my confidence though.
Bravefaninok
June 29th, 2012
10:47 pm
Cmon Teeeeeeeeeeeeeen,a single ties this up.
Frumpy
June 29th, 2012
10:47 pm
Why wouldnt hinske bunt freeman over, then all you need is a sac fly to get him in to tie it?
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
10:47 pm
Whatever, Chernoff
Matt Chernoff @RealMattlanta
I would have used a pitcher like Hudson to bunt Freeman over.
Busch Leaguer is Drinking Jim Fregosi's Liquor tonight
June 29th, 2012
10:47 pm
What a crap at bat by Hinskie .Can’t even move the runner up.
The A Bomb
June 29th, 2012
10:47 pm
Another case of Gonzalez going for the bomb. Fizzle.
DAM
June 29th, 2012
10:47 pm
Horrible AB by Hinske. Absolutely had to find a way to at least get Freeman over to third.
Harry Schwartz
June 29th, 2012
10:47 pm
what happened to Hinske? he could hit after sitting on ice for days last year!
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
10:48 pm
Total complete waste of an at-bat. Did Eric forget how to play the game?
(Rob from SC)
June 29th, 2012
10:48 pm
Why not have a pitcher bunt him over.
PLAY FOR THE TIE AT HOME
Fresh Meat
June 29th, 2012
10:48 pm
Weak-azz swing by Hinske…with ONLY 1 strike
Bobby's Cox
June 29th, 2012
10:48 pm
Hudson’s in the hospital already for heat stroke though.
phil
June 29th, 2012
10:48 pm
Come on, martin…
ncbravesfan
June 29th, 2012
10:49 pm
Setting up the game ending DP
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
10:49 pm
Don’t know if Hinske is a great bunter, Freeman ain’t all that fast, and Jack Wilson isn’t on the bench to pinch-bunt…. Bourny will get a chance to tie this up, maybe even win it.
Hmmmm
June 29th, 2012
10:49 pm
dang, they’re trying to set up a game ending double play (unintentionally)
iTiSi
June 29th, 2012
10:49 pm
“Frumpy” you realize who the manager is, don’t you?
Nick
June 29th, 2012
10:49 pm
this will hurt stranding the lead off guy at 2nd
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
10:49 pm
Nice plate appearance by Prado. The bad thing is that it sets up a double play.
JC Brave
June 29th, 2012
10:49 pm
DP.
Rick
June 29th, 2012
10:49 pm
Last I checked, Bourn hadn’t GIDP at all this season.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
10:49 pm
Bourn, line me one into the RF seats
phil
June 29th, 2012
10:50 pm
Boras up to bat…
Bobby's Cox
June 29th, 2012
10:50 pm
Probably should pinch run Freeman, no?
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
10:50 pm
No, that’s not how we do it. Down to Simmons. Pressure-filled situation here…
(Rob from SC)
June 29th, 2012
10:50 pm
If Gonzalez wasn’t an idiot… it’s a tie game
JAFO
June 29th, 2012
10:50 pm
Another lost out.
phil
June 29th, 2012
10:50 pm
Tried to hit a homer….ridiculous.
ncbravesfan90
June 29th, 2012
10:50 pm
Nobody likes to play ABC baseball remember, people say it dont win games. It would have tied it up there….
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
10:50 pm
Clippard is tough, man.
njbraves
June 29th, 2012
10:50 pm
Lead off double was just a big tease.
Harry Schwartz
June 29th, 2012
10:50 pm
dang it…hopefully the Rook can come thru
Rick
June 29th, 2012
10:50 pm
With who Bobby Cox?
TBbravesfan
June 29th, 2012
10:51 pm
well if old hunski had got him over there would be your tie.
Mark
June 29th, 2012
10:51 pm
Need a runner for Freeman. Have to try and score on most any hit
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
10:51 pm
If Simmons can get on, Heyward is 4-5 against Clippard, with a triple. Get to JHey
phil
June 29th, 2012
10:51 pm
This won’t be pretty either, most likely….
keylargo
June 29th, 2012
10:51 pm
no pinch runner for Freddie? One of the pitchers has to have better speed.
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
10:51 pm
Wow, another really crappy AB. I thought the Braves were focusing on “quality at bats”?
Frumpy
June 29th, 2012
10:51 pm
you bunt him over he scores on bourns fly out. terrible manager. DOB have to ask the question post game mate
ncbravesfan
June 29th, 2012
10:51 pm
4 1/2 back
Busch Leaguer is Drinking Jim Fregosi's Liquor tonight
June 29th, 2012
10:51 pm
Patience is a virtue lost on too many Braves hitters.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
10:51 pm
Inexcusable to fail to score after a lead off double. I would have loved to have seen a better ab from Bourn.
Bobby's Cox
June 29th, 2012
10:51 pm
Uggla. Prado at first then uggla at 2nd.
Hmmmm
June 29th, 2012
10:51 pm
and the errors prove costly, but then again they always do
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
10:52 pm
dang it…. what a way to lose. We tried…. The errors hurt
ncbravesfan90
June 29th, 2012
10:52 pm
And pitching wins ball games folks..that’s what a bullpen looks like.
Powder Blue
June 29th, 2012
10:52 pm
If there’s a game with something on the line, you can count on the Braves to lose it.
Nick
June 29th, 2012
10:52 pm
The basics of baseball haven’t been played in Atlanta for years. Again, WHY IS FREDI HERE?
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
10:52 pm
TOTAL CRAP
TBbravesfan
June 29th, 2012
10:52 pm
boooooooooooooooooooooooooooo boooooooooooooooooooooo booooooooooo just boooo.
Busch Leaguer is Drinking Jim Fregosi's Liquor tonight
June 29th, 2012
10:52 pm
Can of corn to right field .
ncbravesfan
June 29th, 2012
10:52 pm
1-5 vs Nats
JC Brave
June 29th, 2012
10:52 pm
If Gonzalez wasn’t an idiot… it’s a tie game
Yeah, it’s Gonzalez’ fault… he should have scored at least a run during the first 6 innings!
What a loser!
JAFO
June 29th, 2012
10:52 pm
Game tied. Oh I forgot Braves have an idiot.
phil
June 29th, 2012
10:52 pm
Oh well….
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
10:52 pm
the braves hitters have hurt me in fantasy baseball, was hoping for some runs here…
Bobby's Cox
June 29th, 2012
10:52 pm
Too late
Hmmmm
June 29th, 2012
10:52 pm
oh well, get em tomorrow and if not then, on sunday and if not then get back on the winning track monday against the cubs
njbraves
June 29th, 2012
10:52 pm
Deserve to lose. Ridiculous not to get Freeman to 3rd. This manager is incompetent.
Capt.Mudd
June 29th, 2012
10:52 pm
Just a similar way we have rebuked success
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
10:53 pm
This team has major problems. Clippard was tough in the 9th inning after Freeman doubled. Tough to tell how much was Clippard and how much was the Braves overaggressiveness.
Nick
June 29th, 2012
10:53 pm
Another loss on Fredi. Enjoy Atlanta. As for me, this team can get bent until they fired that piece of garbage. Not another dime. Not one cent.
Harry Schwartz
June 29th, 2012
10:53 pm
Well what the hey…they have fireworks! HURRAH!!!
DAM
June 29th, 2012
10:53 pm
Failure to move the runner to third comes back to haunt us on what would have been a sac fly.
Brava
June 29th, 2012
10:53 pm
Oh well. Another freaking loss. What’s new?
ncbravesfan
June 29th, 2012
10:53 pm
6 1/2 back after Sunday
The A Bomb
June 29th, 2012
10:53 pm
One day, we will have a manager that plays by a real baseball book. This guy is not leading the Braves to the promised land anytime soon.
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
10:53 pm
@Frumpy: excellent point, and great request for DOB. But it won’t happen. Never.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
10:54 pm
There is 2 in a row after winning 2 in a row. The Braves can no longer maintain any momentum they generate when they win a few games. Frustrating ball club to say the least.
JAFO
June 29th, 2012
10:54 pm
Fat drunk and stupid is no way to manage…
(Rob from SC)
June 29th, 2012
10:54 pm
Braves Team Needs
Owners who care about the team and will spend money
New Manager
1 SP unless Medlen moves to rotation
2 BP
2 Bench
Nick
June 29th, 2012
10:54 pm
Oh, and that’s why a rookie isn’t in the 2nd spot. Stupd moron
Hmmmm
June 29th, 2012
10:54 pm
moving runners to 3rd via bunt is overrated when you can hit a homer instead
ncbravesfan90
June 29th, 2012
10:54 pm
DOB,
Ask Fredi why he didn’t play ABC baseball in the 9th inning of a one run ballgame. Still would be playing if he did.
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
10:54 pm
How in the world do you not have Uggla pinch run for Freeman? How in the world do you not have Hudson, a good bunter, not come in and move runner at 2nd over to 3rd? How in the world dis Fredi ever become a manager?
TNScott
June 29th, 2012
10:54 pm
No excuse for not bunting Freddie to third. Bourn’s fly ball should’ve scored him.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 29th, 2012
10:55 pm
I guess bunting Freeman over to third base would have been ideal in hindsight, but no way you bunt with Hinske.
Harry Schwartz
June 29th, 2012
10:55 pm
JAFO hahaha – no doubt
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
10:55 pm
TOBF: I’ve got Morse, Zimmerman, Desmond, and Clippard. Good fantasy day for me.
JC Brave
June 29th, 2012
10:56 pm
The Atlanta Magicians! Pulling loses out of their behinds since the 1960s.
iTiSi
June 29th, 2012
10:56 pm
“Frumpy” if you expect DOB to ask a tough question like that you’re dreaming. Won’t happen.
Harry Schwartz
June 29th, 2012
10:56 pm
maybe Neidermeyer could turn this bitch around
Busch Leaguer is Drinking Jim Fregosi's Liquor tonight
June 29th, 2012
10:56 pm
Instead of tippin your cap Fredi ,how about rippin some Braves a#$Es in the clubhouse . You ca excuse the rookie for his AB but the two veteran players should have fredi’s size 12 imprinted on their arses.
njbraves
June 29th, 2012
10:56 pm
You don’t use Hinske in the first damn place.
phil
June 29th, 2012
10:56 pm
It’s just one loss.
Relax. Like me!
smallmouth6
June 29th, 2012
10:56 pm
You play to tie at home, to win on the road. Another poor night of fundamentals.
Nick
June 29th, 2012
10:57 pm
Nothing will change. Not as long as Wren is here. Here’s a guy who’s bullpen included 2 last minute cast offs in Durbin and Hernandez. Gee, I wonder what plan A was?
Seriously, Fredi stops this team day after day. Nobody wants to play for this chump.
smallmouth6
June 29th, 2012
10:57 pm
And we lost again–by one run with a speedster down at triple A (one that can bunt).
Andrelton Simmons
June 29th, 2012
10:57 pm
DOB please get some b*** and ask Fredi G why he wouldn’t play small ball to tie the game in the 9th after Freddie Freeman doubled to lead off the inning. Runner on 2nd no outs and we could’ve EASILY gotten him over to 3rd with a bunt from Hinske and then had Prado and Bourn up to move Freeman 90 freaking feet to tie the game.
Ask him what’s harder a sac bunt and and sac fly or bringing in a slow runner from 2nd from a base hit off one of the best relief pitchers in the MLB??????
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
10:57 pm
would’ve loved a bunt, but Ski isn’t the best guy for that…. If we did bunt, Freddie might’ve scored on Bourn’s flyout (Ankiel does have an arm ya know)
TOBF: I’ve got Morse, Zimmerman, Desmond, and Clippard. Good fantasy day for me.
Only got Zimmerman. Couldn’t get Harper, and Storen’s hurt.
ncbravesfan90
June 29th, 2012
10:57 pm
Remember, we gotta have patience, I mean its just the end of May…..oh wait its the end of June now.
njbraves
June 29th, 2012
10:57 pm
Fredi is a moron and a big reason this team is going nowhere.
Capt.Mudd
June 29th, 2012
10:57 pm
Fredi must think ‘walk off’ homers are a common occurrence…….and, maybe, he just likes his RBI chances with an 0 for 40 something Hinske. Hard to figure on a day when hits are tough to get we fail to bunt Freddy over then score on one of those deep flies….baffling, but a common Fredism.
Nick
June 29th, 2012
10:58 pm
The real question is this. How many HR’s will Minor give up tomorrow? Let the shelling begin. Hey wren. Not every clown you draft deserves to be in MLB.
phil
June 29th, 2012
10:58 pm
Glad i’m not wearing a cap….
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
10:59 pm
@JAFO: way too funny. And I would add this:
“Did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no. Harper, he’s a dead man. Strasbourg, dead. Morse… dead.”
The A Bomb
June 29th, 2012
10:59 pm
When he didn’t pinch run for Freeman, it was a calling card that the bunt wasn’t even considered. This roster is so out of sync you don’t know what the hell’s going to happen at any given moment.
The baseball I once knew doesn’t exist with this guy. Hard to have such inept managing — not been this way since Haas and Nixon.
frank
June 29th, 2012
10:59 pm
Why didn’t Hinske bunt and move Freeman over to 3rd in the 9 nth?
Mark
June 29th, 2012
11:00 pm
I probably would not have bunted Freddi over but a major league hitter should be able to get the guy over by at least getting the ball on the ground and then you have the outside chance of getting a hit and driving in a run. No excuse for not having a better AB though. Also, no excuse for not running for Freeman. Should have also ran for Chipper earlier though.
Just bad ball!!
Brava
June 29th, 2012
11:00 pm
Ross is a good bunter.
Busch Leaguer is Drinking Jim Fregosi's Liquor tonight
June 29th, 2012
11:00 pm
Did not need Hinskie to bunt ,just roll over top of the change up and hit a three hopper to 2nd or first base. Clippard and his 80mph stuff does not exactly over power the hitters. Oh I forget we are talking about the Braves ,should use the word swinger instead of hitter.
jeff
June 29th, 2012
11:00 pm
pathetic pathetic pathetic.. Lead off double wasted…. hey Gonzalez Manage the game for crying out loud.. u demand hinske to do something productive like a sac bunt .to get that runner to third. that changes the whole inning.. but no u let hinske swing and was so off balance he hit a measly pop fly then prado walks and clippard throws ball one and then born swings at a ball going below his knees and does zip and then u get simmons to easily fly out.. great situational hitting there boys.. get a manager that will do the right things. u give up an out to get the runner to 3rd especially on clippard.. but no gonzalez once again cant manage a game …. just maddening to watch him not use his brain night after night… good job gonzalez once again…
Nick
June 29th, 2012
11:00 pm
This team is like watching a t-ball team. What way will they F up today.
But hey, it’s just almost July. Same loser team as last year. No improvements, but hey. It’s just near the all star break.
I so look forward to bringing in some garbage players at the trade deadline and watching Braves.com spin it as a good pick up.
phil
June 29th, 2012
11:01 pm
Fire FG!!
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
11:01 pm
another loss to the home record, and division play….doesn’t help us. We’ll get ‘em tomorrow.
Have fun venting guys. I’ll be around
Charlie
June 29th, 2012
11:02 pm
Winners find a way to win.
Losers find a way to choke, and lose. (Braves since August 2011.)
Nats -5 Braves – 4
The sweep is in place. By Sunday night, the Braves will be 6 1/2 games out…The Braves, a solid loser, who can not compete with a winning Washington team.
Nice job Fredi…not starting your one consistent hitter, in Prado. (Fredi has got to be the dumbest man in baseball. ) Diaz contributed with lousy defense, and a late DP. Hinske had a one handed pop out late. There is that great bench Franki W. put together!
Hopefully McCan’t and Uggla will sit out tomorrow.
sometimesiwonder
June 29th, 2012
11:02 pm
I guess Fredi must not have gotten the memo that you play for the tie at home and the win on the road. Maybe he forgot we were the home team. Would someone please get him a copy of “Managing Baseball for Dummies” and high lite the chapter on when to bunt the runner over………. Good grief
Nick
June 29th, 2012
11:02 pm
I bet Davey Johnson laughs his A off at the chubby clown in our dugout. No, not Hinske, the other chubby clown. No, not Durbin. Gonzalez.
The A Bomb
June 29th, 2012
11:03 pm
I don’t get how this guy hasn’t lost the locker room. It can’t be fun playing for him. It just can’t be.
Nick
June 29th, 2012
11:04 pm
This team comes home and just expects to be handed the game. Heartless. Gutless. Quitters.
And nobody plays hard for a tard like Fredi.
Capt.Mudd
June 29th, 2012
11:04 pm
Fredi really needs to get more familiar with his personnel and their respective skills in all areas of the game…..if your saying there’s nobody on that squad able to bunt in that situation…..my answer would be a stern, are you crazy?
Mixxo
June 29th, 2012
11:05 pm
We’ll be 8 games out by the break.
Count on that.
Bat Masterson
June 29th, 2012
11:05 pm
so-so throw…..GREAT tag! _ Mixxo
Kudos to Mixxo for being consistent………….
Harry Schwartz
June 29th, 2012
11:05 pm
Enjoyed the comments more than the game…thanks gang. It’s the only way to gain insight anymore, as the media is full of hacks.
Cheers!
Woody Woodward
June 29th, 2012
11:06 pm
Nick–don’t know what game you watched, but I hardly think jason or Simmons quit or played gutless ball tonight. Direct your anger productively.
Busch Leaguer is Drinking Jim Fregosi's Liquor tonight
June 29th, 2012
11:06 pm
Davey has the right idea about managing the Nats ,he naps on the bench until the 7th or 8th ,then he walks to the mound takes out his starting pitcher ,then goes back to his seat on the bench and goes back to his nap.
Playoffs!!!
June 29th, 2012
11:06 pm
Our whole bench—with exception of Ross—needs to be dumped.
No comments from the peanut gallery, TheOnlyBravesFan,
Mixxo
June 29th, 2012
11:07 pm
Bat -
That throw was offline chief. Andy saved his butt.
Pay attention kid!
phil
June 29th, 2012
11:07 pm
Some of the stupidity posted here is beyond comprehension….
Can we really be this far gone educationally?
Powder Blue
June 29th, 2012
11:08 pm
“We’ll get ‘em tomorrow.”
Yes, with Minor on the mound we’ve got tomorrow’s game in the bag. Because he’s so awesome and all.
Bat Masterson
June 29th, 2012
11:08 pm
Best thing that ever happened to Heyward: fans booing their asses off when he loafed on Bryce Harper’s single (that turned into a double). He’s actually been fielding his position ever since. _ phoenix
Thats really kind of dumb. He had a bad day, otherwise Heyward has been excellent in the field all year.
phil
June 29th, 2012
11:09 pm
Insight, Harry Schwartz?
Really? Please tell me you jest.
Mixxo
June 29th, 2012
11:09 pm
We’re not getting anything tomorrow but, another game back.
Nats are laughing at us.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
11:10 pm
Can we really be this far gone educationally?
Public schools….
Bat Masterson
June 29th, 2012
11:10 pm
Mixxo_
I’m paying attention, chief. Have been all along
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
11:11 pm
No comments from the peanut gallery, TheOnlyBravesFan,
Peanut gallery? Wow…. I’m not that positive, I still criticize @ times…. no reason to tonight
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
11:12 pm
so dr. phil, enlighten us with your wisdom.
It’s a freakin game blog dude. Probably half of the crap here is an emotional reaction, the other half is sarcastic and/or cynical joking around.
phil
June 29th, 2012
11:12 pm
This doratio (sp) to the north is amazing…..iowa to the atlantic coast.
phil
June 29th, 2012
11:13 pm
Really, illinibrave?
I had no idea….go stick it in your ear.
NickB
June 29th, 2012
11:15 pm
well that didn’t go so well……….
ya know, most of the time bunting is bad, but when down one run at home in the 9th, you SHOULD bunt the tying run to 3rd there.
DAM
June 29th, 2012
11:15 pm
we had 4 other starting pitchers sitting on the bench who could have bunted freeman over if we didn’t trust a position player to do it …
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
11:16 pm
Nothing against you Phil. Just don’t quite understand why you would be so upset over what is said here. Most folks are just having fun.
NickB
June 29th, 2012
11:17 pm
DAM
yep, I would have selected Hudson to do it, then you have runner on 3rd, one out for Prado and Bourn
Woody Woodward
June 29th, 2012
11:18 pm
Mixxo–
Simmons made the play that needed to be made. Heyward aimed for the front of the bag and missed it a bit. Without a gun like his, even an accurate throw doesn’t get the runner. It took two players to make the play. Give Heyward some credit, man.
Capt.Mudd
June 29th, 2012
11:18 pm
@Nick…..”I bet Davey Johnson laughs his A off at …….”
Manager Johnson is not the only MLB Skipper wondering when Fredi will join the fraternity
Venice Jim
June 29th, 2012
11:19 pm
phil – fyi, I admire you for saying the things that I no longer have the energy to post…
phil
June 29th, 2012
11:19 pm
I wasn’t so upset…..i was half kidding myself. Didn’t you see any of my absurd gibberish earlier?
Anyway, no biggie.
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
11:19 pm
@Nick and @Dam: great points, lots of us were thinking along the same lines. Really not sure why this team rarely, if ever, plays that kind of calculated “small-ball”
MikeInFl
June 29th, 2012
11:20 pm
If you gotta blame somebody (which is ridiculous in the first place), blame the errors in the 3rd inning.
Look, Washington’s pitching staff is great. Not good; great. Braves did a good job to post 4 on a bunch of pitchers whose collective ERA is about 2.5 (haven’t done the math, but Detwiler’s was the highest at around 3 coming in. Both relievers were down in Kimbrel territory).
You can’t give away two runs to a good pitching staff and expect to win many games.
The good news is, the Braves defense is generally excellent. Bad night. We lose.
phil
June 29th, 2012
11:20 pm
But…..
Some of this stuff truly is ridiculous.
Playoffs!!!
June 29th, 2012
11:21 pm
Top 10 Reasons why we won’t get a playoff spot: 10) No bench, if one of the starting eight is out–the team takes a big hit offensively. And Chipper is out half the time anyway.
nolie
June 29th, 2012
11:21 pm
because small ball sukks???
Playoffs!!!
June 29th, 2012
11:21 pm
no 9) Mike Minor
Mark
June 29th, 2012
11:23 pm
NickB
Since we were on each other about Uggla vs Infante I thought I’d check the Marlins box tonight.
Infante was 1 for 3 with an rbi. Still hitting .288
Uggla had a “clear you head” night because he is hitting .235 with 89 Ks.
Mitchell
June 29th, 2012
11:23 pm
Wow.
Wow wow wow.
Wow.
How much worse could this team possibly get?
phil
June 29th, 2012
11:23 pm
106 in Atlanta tomorrow….
I never ever thought i would see something like that.
It was 111 on part of the drive home today in middle georgia….108 most of the way but still.
Tomorrow will be worse supposedly, with humidity.
Playoffs!!!
June 29th, 2012
11:23 pm
No.
We are way too left-handed hitting heavy, and every other opposing team knows it and exploits it
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
11:24 pm
Mike: good reminder that we DO have a good fielding team. Last year we had the second fewest errors in the NL and this year we are third. Tonight… not so much.
phil
June 29th, 2012
11:25 pm
Mitchell – you forget the 70s and most of the 80s….
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
11:25 pm
nolie, you can’t be serious. Just have Huddy or somebody on that bench bunt Freeman (should’ve been Uggla) from 2nd to 3rd and go for the tie.
Rico
June 29th, 2012
11:25 pm
We need a new Manager if we hope to win. Now I understand why the Marlins fired Fredi.
phoenix
June 29th, 2012
11:25 pm
Again, calm down folks. Liberty Media is paying for a mediocre, middle-division team. If this team finishes in 3rd, with a .500 record, it has met expectations. The Braves cannot possibly go to post-season with a roster that includes Diaz, Francisco, Wilson, Minor and Hinske. The statue of Chipper is a fan favorite at 3rd base, and the fast-fading McCann is a solid 240, on the scale and at the plate. Uggla is an “All-Star” who is having trouble keeping in his own team’s lineup.
Face it…you’ve got 4-5 solid everyday players in the starting lineup, 2-3 dependable starters, and a couple of standout relievers. Compare that to Washington, and a bunch of other teams around MLB. Braves are middle of the pack. Just like Liberty Media. Why should we expect more?
Playoffs!!!
June 29th, 2012
11:25 pm
No. 7) A manager whose in-game stategy is poor at times will cost his team 3-4 games per season (how much did we miss the Wild Card by last year)
NickB
June 29th, 2012
11:26 pm
Mark
wow small sample size, must mean Infant is better.
WRONGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Uggla is much better, it’s not even close. His worst year was last year and he was still worth 2.5 WAR, last year was Infante’s BEST year and he was worth 2.7.
I reckon at the end of this tear, Uggla will be worth about 4.5 WAR and Infante will be worth around 2.5 ish
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
11:26 pm
phil: yeah, we have had two days of 100 plus and more tomorrow. Heat index has been 110 with humidity as high as 75%. Really bad.
Waffle House or Bust
June 29th, 2012
11:26 pm
Hope the Braves save some of that 2013 money and spend it on getting Francona. Then after Wren welcomes him to the Braves, we give him the boot. New manager. New GM. New baseball in Atlanta.
FOR THE LOVE OF DALE MURPHY – KILL BOBBY BALL FINALLY.
Playoffs!!!
June 29th, 2012
11:27 pm
No 6) Our starting pitching is way overrated. And our best two –Hudson and Hanson could go down with injury any time
Playoffs!!!
June 29th, 2012
11:27 pm
No. 5) Mike Minor (again , they say) Well, he pitches every fifth day
NickB
June 29th, 2012
11:28 pm
phoenix
the Braves have the highest position player WAR in the NL, it’s our pitching that has done us in,
could we use a bench bat or two? yes, is it going to make that much difference? no
we get a solid starter, that will make a difference
Waffle House or Bust
June 29th, 2012
11:28 pm
I was told I was not a baseball expert on here. Do you really have to be one to know Fredi was going to mess with the lineup and Braves would lose because of RISP?
NickB
June 29th, 2012
11:28 pm
Waffle House or Bust
only a complete boob thinks Frank Wren has done a bad job…..oh wait
phil
June 29th, 2012
11:28 pm
and the fast-fading McCann is a solid 240, on the scale and at the plate. PHOENIX
THAT cracked me up…..for some reason. Sorry.
Playoffs!!!
June 29th, 2012
11:28 pm
No.4) We have no $ to add any impact player at the trade deadline
The A Bomb
June 29th, 2012
11:29 pm
106 in Atlanta tomorrow….
ADVANTAGE: BRAVES. We already know Minor’s done after 2 2/3.
Mitchell
June 29th, 2012
11:29 pm
Nick
June 29th, 2012
11:00 pm
This team is like watching a t-ball team. What way will they F up today.
But hey, it’s just almost July. Same loser team as last year. No improvements, but hey. It’s just near the all star break.
I so look forward to bringing in some garbage players at the trade deadline and watching Braves.com spin it as a good pick up.
You mean something along the lines of “The Braves made the smart move by trading Craig Kimbrel for Heath Bell”?
Sounds about right.
By the way, they now have to go 51-36 to make the playoffs.
And to win the division?
More like 56-31.
Totally doable!
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
11:29 pm
Hope the Braves save some of that 2013 money and spend it on getting Francona.
Oh you mean the guy whose team blew a WC lead larger than Fredi’s?
Powder Blue
June 29th, 2012
11:30 pm
“Braves are middle of the pack. Just like Liberty Media. Why should we expect more?”
As long as Liberty Media owns the team, I don’t.
DAM
June 29th, 2012
11:31 pm
Small ball sucks in general, except for those situations where you are playing with the specific objective of scoring one run.
phil
June 29th, 2012
11:31 pm
Atlanta almost never hits 100….but 106?
And we get 100 a fair amt in middle ga but 111? 108?
Amazing stuff. It’s Fredi’s fault surely.
Playoffs!!!
June 29th, 2012
11:31 pm
No. 3) McCann has stopped hitting, and it’s not getting better
Playoffs!!!
June 29th, 2012
11:32 pm
No. 2) The fans, the media don’t hold this organization accountable
Mark
June 29th, 2012
11:33 pm
WAR, WAR, WAR
I’m more interested in WINS, WINS, WINS
First place team comes to town and our 62 million dollar, .238 hitting 2B needs a ‘clear your head” night.
Busch Leaguer is Drinking Jim Fregosi's Liquor tonight
June 29th, 2012
11:33 pm
Not so much a comparison of their stats ,it is just the large differential in salary between Infante and Uggla.The Braves are paying Uggla the big money to hit and drive in runs ,and the main improvement this year is his improved on base pct,because Uggla is taking more walks.
Playoffs?????
June 29th, 2012
11:33 pm
And the # 1 reason we won’t make the playoffs………..
NickB
June 29th, 2012
11:33 pm
Francona is a great Mgr of players, and of using the stats to determine who should hit where and when, and who should pitch where and when
It would be like having a guy who actually looks at stat book to see who should pitch high leverage instead of a guy who goes with his “gut”
The A Bomb
June 29th, 2012
11:33 pm
Might be too hot to sigh tomorrow phil — have a cookie and watch Strasburg strike out Francisco at least 3 times. And the rest of the lineup 1-2 times each.
Woody Woodward
June 29th, 2012
11:34 pm
Did the official scorer reverse chippers error?
Playoffs?????
June 29th, 2012
11:34 pm
….Mike Minor (is he still here??)
Efrim
June 29th, 2012
11:34 pm
Heyward was facing AL pitchers who’ve never seen him for most of the month, Efrim. That could have contributed to the crazy hitting. I hope not, but it’s possible.
I don’t think so. He hit .368/.400/.737 in 20 plate appearances prior to the hot streak vs. the American League. Had a great series vs. the Marlins and was looking really good at the plate. Also just went 3 for 7 vs. the D-Backs before Thursday night.
NickB
June 29th, 2012
11:34 pm
Mark
yer an idiot
carry on
phil
June 29th, 2012
11:35 pm
How do you hold an organization accountable?
Not going to the games, sure, but that isn’t a viable option, obviously, much as I like the idea.
So what do you do? Boo? Lol….give it up.
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
11:35 pm
Next year we will free up almost $20M from Chipper, Hinske, Wilson, and Diaz gone. If EOF and Jurjjens leave for greener pastures, that frees up about another $8M. I’m hoping Liberty will spend whatever they need from that $25-30M to resign Bourn and go out and get a proven starter and a decent outfielder. Vizcaino and Moylan will be back, so the bullpen should be better.
nolie
June 29th, 2012
11:36 pm
well they came back and gave it a good try. maybe that will carry over to tomorrow…,.
Waffle House or Bust
June 29th, 2012
11:37 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan – Yes that manager that has two world series rings. How many does fat boy have? What I thought.
Mark
June 29th, 2012
11:37 pm
Now,now Ms Uggla
Lets not resort to name calling:)
VaBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
11:37 pm
Gotta do better against division rivals…
phil
June 29th, 2012
11:37 pm
Sighing might be a way to demand accountability….
Good nite all…
Woody Woodward
June 29th, 2012
11:37 pm
Nick–I agree w mark that sitting Uggla was a questionable decision, especially if prado sits. Another head scratcher. (I have a bald spot just above my right ear)
nolie
June 29th, 2012
11:38 pm
y’all need to read the Boston blogs last season. It will sound real familiar….
Mitchell
June 29th, 2012
11:38 pm
Somebody please explain to me how we win both of these games the past two days in 2010 and not 2011 or ‘12.
Wagner gave up a 9th inning run to the Dbags in a game in 2010 at home and Martin Prado went out the with the bases loaded and hit a liner down the right field line.
Game over.
Couldn’t score runs at home past the 7th inning in 2009, 2011 and 2012.
Couldn’t be stopped from scoring runs in the 8th and 9th innings at home in Bobby Cox’s last year.
Does Chipper Jones, a guy who actually deserves to go to the Hall of Fame, not carry the same level of respect and weight as sorry a@$$ Bobby Cox to inspire his players to raise their performance in these types of games?
I’m sure as hell not going to say Fredi does but wtf, it worked for Bobby.
We probably should have won the division that year not to mention the playoff series against the Giants but at least they got there!
This team never made any kind of statement about wanting to win for their new manager. It might be fair to say we only won 89 games because of it.
Are they afraid of winning? Is that what it is?
Are the Nationals that scary? You’re just going to let them walk all over you in your own stadium?
Pathetic.
Waffle House or Bust
June 29th, 2012
11:38 pm
nolie – You know you don’t mean that. Gave it a good try? I know you are just trolling for responses to react to with your aol icons. Ha!
FYI – This baseball expert already predicted two things from this series and we are only one game in. Suck on that troll.
The A Bomb
June 29th, 2012
11:39 pm
Actually the crowds this year have been enthusiastic and great considering they’re getting a brutal home team being held back by a field commander who’s overmatched.
NickB
June 29th, 2012
11:39 pm
I’m not so sure overpaying for Bourn is a good idea honestly, i don’t like it when guys have their best seasons ever during contract years. Do we really want to end up paying a .280 hitting guy who doesn’t really slug that much and when he gets older becomes a liability in CF $15 mill a year?
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
11:39 pm
nolie: so… we don’t want Francona as our manager? That may be a good point.
David O'Brien
June 29th, 2012
11:39 pm
Simmons is pretty special for a rookie one month into his big-league career, evident again by his quotes including this: “You want the games like this, because you want emotional games. You want to battle, and after you win you feel good about yourself, like you accomplished something. But after battling that much and losing, it hurts.”
On his throwing error when trying to throw out LaRoche at 2nd after two other fielding miscues in the inning including Chipper’s on that same play:
“I saw two balls go off of gloves, at second base [Jack Wilson’s error] and go off of Chipper Jones. I was trying to back-pick LaRoche at second. I was too aggressive. Just a little immature of me. I’ve got to be better than that.”
VaBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
11:39 pm
Braves will have 39 million coming off the books for sure. Still have EOF and Jurrjens up in the air as well who could account for another 8 million. After ARB raises Braves will have around 25 million to work with.
King of Carrot Flowers
June 29th, 2012
11:39 pm
Brian “I’m About To Get Hot” McCann has earned a new nickname…The Weatherman. Because his predictions obviously have nothing to do with hitting.
Efrim
June 29th, 2012
11:39 pm
nolie, did you ever see my post about Heyward? When you’re in a hot streak like he was prior to this 0 for 9 and you weren’t taking many walks because you were crushing everything….when do you start to take walks again? I’m guessing perhaps after an 0 for 9 when you realize you can’t hit absolutely everything? Honest question about hot streaks and such.. Thanks!
NickB
June 29th, 2012
11:40 pm
Woody
everybody doesn’t understand why Fredi decided to sit Prado and Uggla NOW, if yer gonna do it, do it against the D-backs or the Cubs, not against the dadburn division leaders.
but his argument that Infante is a better player is ridiculous and false
Mark
June 29th, 2012
11:41 pm
Hey Woody. Thanks for jumping in but you misunderstood me. I’d sit his tail for a while.
I think thats what aggravates me about the Braves the most. We seem to just accept poor results over and over with no accountability.
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
11:41 pm
NickB: so you think he’ll command more than double what he makes now? Wow, if that is true, then OUCH. That would be too much of our payroll. Guess he’s a “steal” now at just under $7M.
Bat Masterson
June 29th, 2012
11:42 pm
No. 2) The fans, the media don’t hold this organization accountable _ Playoffs?????
Exactly right. DOB should ask Fredi why he keeps doing stupid stuff and the fans should pitch a b*tch fit until we get Hamels and Votto.
VaBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
11:42 pm
I’m so tired of seeing the Infante is better than Uggla comments… Its pretty silly…
The A Bomb
June 29th, 2012
11:43 pm
I guarantee you they’re not pumping $25 million into this team next season. Liberty understands we can’t beat the Nationals for a few years. Back to the 80s.
NickB
June 29th, 2012
11:43 pm
Illinibrave
Adam Jones just got 6 years $85 million, true he is 2 years younger, but Boras will be aiming for 5 years $75 mill, and I bet somebody pays it (probably the Nat’s)
Busch Leaguer is Drinking Jim Fregosi's Liquor tonight
June 29th, 2012
11:44 pm
The Braves are playing in front of a half empty stadium most nights,the only exception is when the visiting team(Yankees ,Phils ,Cubs,. etc) come out to support their teams. Liberty should spend more for a better product on the field but I think they are just a bottom line type of organization .They have an amount of profit they can make based on a home attendance of 1.8 to 2 million and will not spend additional money to attract larger turn out by the fans. Their big idea this year sell $2 hot dogs for $3.50 and tell season ticket holders they are getting a 33%discount.Real marketing geniuses.
Mark
June 29th, 2012
11:44 pm
For the money its not even close!
Woody
Don’t let NickB cuddle up to you!
Woody Woodward
June 29th, 2012
11:44 pm
Didn’t see that part of the argument, nickB. I agree sitting both in this game was really risky. I’d prefer to play Uggla–issue the guy a challenge. Sitting prado, I can understand, given the hammy. Might have even said damn the numbers and sent Uggla to the plate rather than Hinske. Bottom line, fredi’s not inspiring confidence.
Powder Blue
June 29th, 2012
11:44 pm
The Nats will light up Minor like a pinball machine tomorrow. Guy has no business starting in the majors.
nolie
June 29th, 2012
11:45 pm
you could well be right Efrim. one of the good things about a good eye and discipline is that you can still add some value by walking when you are slumping. better than all outs
don’t pay too much attention to me though, I’m just a sukky ol’ troll
IlliniBrave
June 29th, 2012
11:46 pm
VaBrave: Okay, that is about what I thought. I’d spend a quarter of that on a raise for Bourn, if that would be enough, then try to sign a quality arm and a solid though not spectacular outfielder. And if EOF leaves, use his bucks to find a replacement – though it would be hard to find equal value.
Efrim
June 29th, 2012
11:46 pm
I’m sorry, but Danville is still playing right now? What?
Great to see Freeman hitting since he came back.
And I call BS on Gammons saying that the Braves have decided not to pursue a starting pitcher. That’s a leak from the Braves. Pretty obvious they need a starter, imo.
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
11:46 pm
Simmons has that special quality about him. Besides the raw fielding, throwing gifts, he just shines out there in every way.
Guys needs to be damn careful tomorrow. And I mean every man thats on that field. Temps could get 115 degrees on that field. Heat stroke city right there.
Bozo ( The Clown )
June 29th, 2012
11:47 pm
I figure everyone could use a good joke right now so here ya go, per john smoltz on mlb tonight…
did you hear about the guy who lost his whole left side..???…….
hes all right now…
Busch Leaguer is Drinking Jim Fregosi's Liquor tonight
June 29th, 2012
11:47 pm
I will say it again Uggla should be better than Infante ,they are paying him 4 times as much money .
Mark
June 29th, 2012
11:48 pm
Don’t think we’ll have a chance to sign Bourn. He’ll demand maore than he is worth at his age. Goood defender but second on the team in Ks and would be first if not for Uggly.
Seriously, he’ll start declining as a speed guy soon because he is 30, I think. Long term deal for big money will be a mistake for someone
Mitchell
June 29th, 2012
11:48 pm
Who is voting for Dan Uggla for the flippin’ All Star Game?
Who did vote? Who in their right mind would give him a single one?
I didn’t fill out a single ballot.
Brandon Phillips should be starting.
He’s an All Star. He makes plays. He gets big hits.
Dan Uggla is a freaking washed up, useless douche.
NickB
June 29th, 2012
11:49 pm
IlliniBrave
EOF is good value now, but next year he might be making almost $4mill as a 7th inning man….that’s too much, I suspect the braves will either try and trade him or non-tender him, same with JJ.
nolie
June 29th, 2012
11:49 pm
Dan Uggla is a freaking washed up, useless douche…..
kinda like Bitchell….
The A Bomb
June 29th, 2012
11:50 pm
Neither Delgado nor Minor should be on the hill for this club again in 2012. This is too big for them right now.
Same with Teheran. Vizcaino is now 2 years away, if at all.
Wren miscalculated — these guys are NOT MLB ready.
NickB
June 29th, 2012
11:50 pm
Mitchell
uggla leads in every batting category for 2nd baseman in the NL but batting avg you washed up senseless douche
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
11:51 pm
Simmons needs a hug … a man hug that is. Kid kept this game from being a laugher all by himself. But he is obviously a team guy which is always a good thing.
Woody Woodward
June 29th, 2012
11:51 pm
Bourne benefits a lot from batting in front of prado. I really like that one two in the order. Heyward gets him some good looks, too, but I’ll be interested to see Bourne’s numbers after hes been hitting in front of Jason for a while. Course the lineup can be juggled at any time….
Mark
June 29th, 2012
11:51 pm
I think NickB is voting over and over for Uggly
NickB
June 29th, 2012
11:51 pm
you know what was good to see?
Venters dominate in the top of the 9th
huh
June 29th, 2012
11:51 pm
‘phil’ you are so full of it…108!? I call BS. Smoke another.
David O'Brien
June 29th, 2012
11:52 pm
postgame QUOTATIONS from involved parties
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/06/29/braves-quotes-after-fridays-loss-to-nationals/
Playoffs?????
June 29th, 2012
11:52 pm
Bat Masterson— We need to get SOMEBODY, this starting staff ain’t getting it done. Yes, stupid stuff—(let’s walk Ty Wiggington, and pitch to Carlos Gonzales)
NickB
June 29th, 2012
11:53 pm
I voted for Uggla 50 times cuz he deserved it (and i voted a month ago).
Mark,
the reason yer a douche is because you like to get mad at a player when he’s slumping , yet i don’t recall seeing you cheering for him when he was a hitting machine earlier nor impressed that he was leading the universe in walks, nor when he carried the offense for the 2md half of last year
yer a toad, a poisonous little toad
VaBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
11:54 pm
IlliniBrave
EOF is entering his ARB 3 and is looking at a salary close to 4 million in 2013. I see the Braves trying to trade him or just non-tendering. Don’t have the luxury to pay a reliever that much.
Jurrjens still has alot to prove, he has an estimated salary of around 7 million in 2013.
I think the most the Braves can pay for Bourn is around 11-13 mil a season and that’s really pushing it. Having Prado gives the Braves options on how to approach filling needs. We can either add a LFer or 3rd baseman with Prado taking the open spot.
CF option will be pricey in Free Agency.. I wouldn’t rule out Cunningham getting a shot to earn the job or the Braves going cheap in Center will defensive 1st player.
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
11:55 pm
Braves suck beyond repair. Sell the team to the Afghanistan Towels!
The A Bomb
June 29th, 2012
11:55 pm
Can’t wait for Coco Crisp 3.0 talk this winter. Just can’t wait.
Mark
June 29th, 2012
11:56 pm
Um. That hurt Ms. Uggla.
Seriously though, didn’t mean to get under your skin that bad.
Take care. Maybe we can agree on something tomorrow.
Good night!
NickB
June 29th, 2012
11:56 pm
anyone think that David Wright leaves the Mets next year? wouldn’t mind offering him a 5 years deal and leaving Prado in left.
I expect he will want close to $20 mill per year, but he won’t get it, too many injury problems
The A Bomb
June 29th, 2012
11:57 pm
Bourn will end up in D.C. — Rizzo is more respected — this team will compete for rings — AND they’ll pay him.
VaBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
11:57 pm
The biggest key for this organization in my opinion is the development of Heyward and Freeman.
Playoffs?????
June 29th, 2012
11:57 pm
No way both Minor AND Delgado should be in the starting rotation at the same time. START Medlin, before all that “stretching” shrinks. Trade for a reliever.
Busch Leaguer is Drinking Jim Fregosi's Liquor tonight
June 29th, 2012
11:57 pm
I just have one more comment for Dan Uggla……..”Slumpbuster”.
NickB
June 29th, 2012
11:58 pm
mark
go read a book about baseball…. like one with numbers in it instead of pretty pictures
NickB
June 29th, 2012
11:58 pm
Medlen should not be starting.
this argument is so tired ….
Busch Leaguer is Drinking Jim Fregosi's Liquor tonight
June 30th, 2012
12:01 am
Va
And you can throw in Simmons ,Delgado ,Minor ,Beachy , Medlen and Kimbrell,because for right now all of them are affordable.
Venice Jim
June 30th, 2012
12:01 am
NickB – I have retired from pointing out how senseless so many people can be – glad to see someone hanging in there…
Anyone moaning about the voting should realize that Atlanta fans are pathetic and don’t support their team, so it is clearly the clueless fans of other teams voting for Uggla based on …I don’t know, maybe stats they can look up?
JAFO
June 30th, 2012
12:01 am
fg 0.00
VaBravesFan
June 30th, 2012
12:02 am
Delgado is reminding me of Kyle Davies and Minor reminds me of JoJo Reyes. But there so young i’m not worried about them right now, way to early in there careers. They both will most likely be in our rotation next season unless one is traded.
IlliniBrave
June 30th, 2012
12:02 am
@NickB and @VaBrave: so it sounds like the Braves are not going to spend all of the $25-35M they might have available next year? Is that what you are saying? B/c, the salary increases that you are quoting for EOF and Bourn and JJ would not even take half of the available cash. We would still have $15-20M for a 3-4 pitcher – not a top of the rotation guy mind you – and a mid-level outfielder, so Prado can go back to 3B.
MikeInFl
June 30th, 2012
12:05 am
Don’t need a “mid-level” outfielder. Prado is an outstanding OF, and an average 3b.
Move Prado to LF and trade for Chase Headley. (just had to get my weekly Headley Hype in)
IlliniBrave
June 30th, 2012
12:07 am
NickB: Also, and I know you and I have gone around on this before, but your point that “Medlen should not start” is predicated on what? That he can’t last more than 4-5 Innings? Uh, we’ve already got that problem in spades. Or, he doesn’t have a third pitch? Yeah, same for Minor for sure, and maybe Delgado. Minor’s changeup is just a BP grapefruit. Or, it’s too soon off of TJ? We’re gonna have the same issue with Beachy next year. Not sure what the argument is here.
nolie
June 30th, 2012
12:07 am
not exactly sure how Prado is just an “average” third baseman
Playoffs?????
June 30th, 2012
12:08 am
Fredi’s WAR is -5
Playoffs?????
June 30th, 2012
12:09 am
Is Minor gone yet?? Just checking (hoping)
VaBravesFan
June 30th, 2012
12:09 am
IlliniBrave
We have aot of guys entering there 1st year of ARB. Hanson, Venters, Heyward, Medlen, CMart are due sizable raises. Prado is looking at a 2-3 million raise as well.
I think the Braves will be active in the trade market looking to improve this team. I really think Bourn will be outta reach with big spenders out there. We could look to add a Peter Bourjos or Denard Span type who makes sense in terms of money.
Powder Blue
June 30th, 2012
12:09 am
So if Minor’s ERA gets over 10, will they finally yank him from the rotation? If that’s what it takes, I say “Bombs away!”
Mark
June 30th, 2012
12:09 am
IlliniBrave
NickB must not like Medlins WAR
IlliniBrave
June 30th, 2012
12:09 am
nolie: agree – seems that every time he spots for Chipper at third he makes an outstanding play.
Playoffs?????
June 30th, 2012
12:10 am
Spahn and Sain,.. and pray for rain.
Hudson and Hanson,…and take someone for ransom (Thank you, I”ll be here all week)
NickB
June 30th, 2012
12:10 am
IlliniBrave
not at all, it’s just as a mid market team payroll wise they can’t afford to overpay for relief production and overrated starter production.
I reckon, that money will be used to sign either a big hitting LF’er or 3rd baseman, pay the salary of whatever starter they add this year, and fill CF via a trade, plus the usual bullpen and bench additions.
btw, I expect close to $30 mill after all the arb is paid out and bench.pen arms let go/ re-signed …etc
Waffle House or Bust
June 30th, 2012
12:10 am
Good thing we get 33% off concessions at Turner.
VaBravesFan
June 30th, 2012
12:11 am
I would be happy with Headley coming to ATL. The guy plays great away from Petco. Keeping Prado in LF plus this move wouldn’t cost much in terms of payroll. But we would have to trade some prospects.
Another name is Josh Willingham. Good for 800 OPS and 25 homers in LF. Under contract for 2 more seasons at 7 mil per year.
Waffle House or Bust
June 30th, 2012
12:13 am
Fredi says this is how its going to be next 12 games we have left with Nats. I predict 3 and 9 rest of the way against them. Fat Fredi is such a loser. I see why the players hated him in Florida.
NickB
June 30th, 2012
12:14 am
Medlen has a career ERA of 4.23 starting , and his BB% goes up when he starts, and his K% goes down, his winning record is more due to the 5.5 runs per start of support he was getting.
IMO, he has more value as a middle reliever who CAN pitch high leverage spots than any possible starting improvement he might make.
I reckon the best way to make the team better is to trade for a starter and leave Meds where he belongs.
kenhotlanta
June 30th, 2012
12:14 am
Heavy news day:
1. Braves lose a game due to early inning sloppy plays and another so-so performance by Delgado. Simmons is already a special player and we are developing a solid core for the future. And the future is Gattis, right?
2. Isaiah Crowell dismissed from the Dawgs after getting caught with a gun with an altered serial number at 3:30 AM…how stupid can you be? The scary thing is there were 3 UGA Freshmen signees in the car, too, including super stud Josh Harvey Clemons. And then Bradley blames Richt for all of this, so I guess shyt like this never happens at Florida, Alabama, Auburn, FSU, South Carolina, etc. Right?
3. Katie Holmes sues Tom Cruise for divorce and full custody to end their sham marriage so Tom can go back to his real Crusin’ ways. Of course she is giving up millions in salary as a paid wife, but enough is enough, I guess.
4. Erin Andrews is leaving ESPN, and hopefully we will still get to see her lovely self at Fox Sports. (And Playboy would be a great option, IMHO).
5. nolie is a troll??? WTF, I never knew.
Carry on.
Playoffs?????
June 30th, 2012
12:14 am
Can someone tell Minor it’s a 7:30 start tomorrow??
Bobby H
June 30th, 2012
12:15 am
Along the lines of Bozo @ 11:47 ( everyone could use a good joke right now)
This is a late entry to the ridiculous, afternoon, Harper-statement variations (for some reason, I skipped all of the in-game pages):
(Please, think circa 1970ish)
Ronald McDonald: “Wow! How do you keep it so long & stiff all day without it drooping?”
Diana Ross: “That’s a ‘fro question, clown.”
Is it too late, BAS, for a rating?
Waffle House or Bust
June 30th, 2012
12:15 am
Why does everyone always think a big trade is going to change things? Did we not get the CF last season and power bat (Uggla – joke)? Did that help? Wake up and realize as long as Wren and Fredi run this show we are what we are. I’ve accepted this so you guys need to also.
We ain’t winning jack with these clowns.
Powder Blue
June 30th, 2012
12:16 am
“Can someone tell Minor it’s a 7:30 start tomorrow??”
And that the game’s in D.C. You know, for insurance.