While others streak and power surge, Prado plugs away
In his past 44 games, he’s hit .348 with 22 multi-hit games, 19 extra-base hits and an .895 OPS, but he still seems to get overlooked in a Braves offense that’s had a dynamic leadoff man, Michael Bourn, in front of him, and at least one streaking slugger at any given time somewhere in the batting order behind him — first Freddie Freeman, then Dan Uggla, and for the past four weeks, Jason Heyward.
Prado is having a career-best season, but isn't satisfied and insists he's had too many bad games and too many wasted at-bats.
And so, the hitter who leads the Braves in batting average (.317), on-base percentage (.377) and positions played (three), and ranks 24th in the NL in OPS (.838) between Bryce Harper (.841) and David Freese (.829), continues to get largely overshadowed.
But that’s OK with Martin Prado, who just wants to do his job and thinks he can do it even better. That’s despite the fact that the 2010 All-Star – at second base, by the way, not one of the three positions he’s played this season — is having a career-best season.
Here’s what he said when I asked him at Boston last weekend whether he’s had such a long stretch of games where he felt so consistent and locked in at the plate.
“Actually I don’t feel like that. To be honest with you, I feel like I’ll have two good games and then a sh***y game, or maybe one good game, then two bad ones,” he said. “Overall it’s a little consistent, but I feel like sometimes I just waste at least one or two at-bats a game. Which is something I don’t want to do.
“But sometimes I feel like I’m taking too many pitches right down the zone, because I want to learn to pick my spot. And sometimesI feel like if I want to be aggressive, I want to swing at a first-pitch fastball and if they throw me something else, I’m swinging automatically because in my mind I’m ready to swing. Just more like, trying to take a pitch and then go from there. I’m still trying to be consistent with that.”
When it comes to being perfectionsts and their own toughest critics, Prado and Brandon Beachy are along among Braves. In fact, I dare say you won’t find many ballplayers anywhere who are tougher on themselves than these two.
“He gets a couple of hits every night, makes a couple of nice plays defensively, either at third or first or left field,” manager Fredi Gonzalez said. “He’s a baseball player.”
Gonzalez smiles when asked about the nearly impossible standards that Prado sets for himself.
“Bourney laughs at him,” Gonzalez said. “Martin will line out in his first two at-bats and come into the dugout and throw his helmet and everything, and Bourney will said, ‘You’re crazy.’”
Chipper Jones got back in the (home run) swing of things on Wednesday.
Prado said: “Yes. I’m not satisfied. I feel blessed. I’m happy with that. But I’m always looking for something new. Always.”
He said that while batting in the 2-hole most of the season, he’s tried to get on base as often as possible, “to give me a chance and my teammates a chance to score runs. That’s what I’m looking for.”
His .377 OBP is his highest since he posted that exact total in 78 games (254 at-bats) in 2008, his first season in the majors with as many as 30 games or more than 62 plate appearances.
Prado’s .365 average against lefty pitchers is the fifth-highest in the National League, and his .338 home average is tied for ninth in the NL with Milwaukee’s Ryan Braun.
Braves No. 2 hitters lead the NL in average (.322) and rank second in OBP (.379) and OPS (.859). Prado has accounted for 269 of the team’ 298 at-bats in the 2-hole, with Heyward and Chipper Jones also excelling in 11 at-bats apiece from that spot, totaling 10 hits, two homers and 10 RBIs between them in the 2-hole.
With the surging Heyward’s move to the 2-hole this week, Prado should be able to help boost the Braves’ production from the third spot in the order, where they rank last in the NL in average (.206) and OBP (.277). From the No. 3 spot, Freeman has hit .232 with a .298 OBP in 151 at-bats, and Brian McCann has hit just .191 (18-for-94) with a .255 OBP.
As far as anyone can tell, Prado doesn’t care where he hits or where he plays in the field.
“He can play anywhere,” Braves first-base (and former hitting) coach Terry Pendleton said. “You could probably put the catcher’s gear on him and he could probably do it. He might not want to, but he could probably do it. He can play anywhere out there.”
Since Prado’s days in the minor leagues and then as a bench player, Pendleton was always one of the Braves coaches who was in his corner and believed he’d hit if and when he got a chance.
“There are some guys you just know can play,” Pendleton said. “No matter where you put them, they’ll perform. They do what they do. He just plays. All you want them to do.”
Prado’s philosophy is simple. “I always tell my teammates, if you’re healthy, if you’re working hard and do everything the right way, good things are going to happen,” he said. “Right now the most important thing for me, before the All-Star break I want my team to be up there. Then take the break and go back at it after the All-Star game. That’s all I want right now.”
BRAVES LINEUP
- Bourn CF
- Heyward RF
- Prado LF
- McCann C
- Jones 3B
- Uggla 2B
- Freeman 1B
- Simmons SS
- Jurrjens P
• Kimbrel-ing hitters: He just turned 24 last month, and Craig Kimbrel has already established himself as the best and most dominant closer in the National League and arguably all of baseball.
After a remarkable rookie season in which he made the All-Star team, won the NL Rookie of the Year award by a huge margin and finished ninth in the Cy Young voting, while tying for the league lead in saves and posting a 2.10 ERA with 127 strikeouts and 32 walks in 77 innings, Kimbrel is having an even better season in 2012, while being used more prudently in hopes of avoiding a repeat of his late September fade.
Kimbrel leads the league with 22 saves (in 23 chances) and leads the NL relievers with a 1.29 ERA and opponents’ batting average (.125), having moved past Cincinnati flamethrower Aroldis Chapman in the latter stat as well as strikeouts per nine innings (15.85), where Kimbrel now leads the majors. Chapman is at 15.1 per nine, and his overall performance has plummeted since soon after his move from setup to closer.
Some have the mentality and physical tools to excel above others in the closer role, where there is no safety net and no one to pick you up when you struggle, unlike the seventh- or eighth-inning relief role. Many have one but not the other – the mentality or the stuff, but not both.
Some who don’t have it initially might someday become top closers. But I’m of the belief that most of the time, the very best ones display the intangibles for the role either from the outset or soon after they’ve moved into the role.
Kimbrel has both, obviously. The utterly overpowering fastball and slider combination, and the mentality – despite his boyish looks – to move past a blown save.
We haven’t seen him enough in the postseason to know that he can do the same thing on that pressure-filled stage, but I’ve seen enough of his pitching in big games, in packed stadiums home and road, to believe that he’ll be a big-game pitcher in the postseason when he gets the opportunity to do it, now that he’s established himself.
Anyway, for now consider a few of the stats that Kimbrel has put up this season, stats that make him a mortal lock for a second consecutive All-Star appearance and another top-10 finish in the Cy Young balloting, perhaps even top 5 if no more than a few starters have overwhelming seasons statistically:
Left-handed batters are an absurd 2-for-44 (.045) against him with six walks, 23 strikeouts and a .205 OPS including .045 slugging.
With runners in scoring position, hitters are 1-for-17 (.059) against him
After getting ahead 0-1 in counts, he’s held hitters to .123 (8-for-65) with two walks and 40 strikeouts.
Kimbrel gave up two runs, two hits and two walks in consecutive appearances May 2 and May 4. Since then, he’s allowed just three hits (.055 opponents’ average) and two walks with 28 strikeouts in 17 scoreless innings over his past 17 games.
And in his past 13 appearances, he’s allowed an .048 average with no walks and 24 strikeouts in 13 innings.
• Heyward’s hot streak: The hitting streak is at 12 games now for Heyward, who is a sizzling 20-for-44 (.455) with 11 extra-base hits (four homers), seven RBIs and a .909 slugging percentage in that dozen-game stretch.
Heyward as a 12-game hitting streak and the second-highest batting average in the NL in June.
The big right fielder has hit .395 in June with a .420 OBP and .763 slugging percentage (1.183 OPS), with 15 extra-base hits (six homers) and 14 RBIs in 21 games.
Heyward and Arizona’s Aaron Hill (.368) have the second- and third-highest averages in the NL this month (behind Joey Votto’s .407), while Arizona’s Chris Young (.154) and the Braves’ Dan Uggla (.162) have the league’s two lowest averages for the month.
Heyward’s six homers this month are one off the league lead shared by three hitters including Arizona’s Jason Kubel, and Heyward’s four homers in past 10 days is tied for the NL lead. Kubel also leads the league with 24 RBIs this month.
• Not hot: Uggla went 11-for-27 (.407) with four homers, 12 RBIs and a .500 OBP in eight games May 26 to June 5. Since then he’s 7-for-62 (.113) with one double, one homer, five RBIs, 16 walks, 26 strikeouts and a .480 OPS in 19 games.
And it’s gotten worse lately. He’s 5-for-48 (.104) with one double, one RBI, 10 walks, 20 strikeouts and a .396 OPS in his past 14 games, including 0-for-19 and 10 strikeouts in his past six home games….
While Kimbrel has been as good or better than last season, Jonny Venters continues to struggle trying to regain his form of the past two seasons. The lefty allowed another homer Wednesday, making it five homers he’s allowed in 17-2/3 innings over his past 24 appearances. Venters had allowed only three homers in 182-1/3 innings over his previous 176 career appearances.
In 27 May-June appearances, he’s 1-3 with a 5.75 ERA, two blown saves in two chances, and a .341 opponents’ average.
• Jurrjens tonight: Braves pitcher Jair Jurrjens will try to show last week’s resounding return win at Boston was not a fluke when he makes his second start since being recalled from a two-month stint in Triple-A.
It’s been nearly a year since Jurrjens last won a game at Turner Field, on July 6 against Colorado (six innings, five hits, one run). Since then he’s
0-2 with a 7.36 ERA and .333 opponents’ average in six home starts, with seven homers, 44 hits and 27 earned runs allowed in 33 innings.
Jurrjens is 2-1 with a 5.24 ERA in four career starts vs. Arizona. Stephen Drew is 5-for-13 against him, Chris Young 2-for-10 with a homer.
He’ll face Diamondbacks prospect Trevor Bauer, who’s making his major league debut in place of injured Joe Saunders. Bauer was the third pick in the 2011 draft and has modeled his pitching style after the distinct delivery of Giants fallen ace Tim Lincecum.
• Etc.
The Braves have gone 14-6 with .301 average and 3.35 ERA in past 20 games vs. Diamondbacks, including 8-1 with a .305 average and 2.03 ERA in the past nine games. Atlanta has 15 homers and 53 runs in that 8-1 stretch that began Aug. 19, 2011…. Injured and done-for-the-season Braves pitcher Beachy continues to lead the majors with .259 slugging percentage allowed, while teammate Mike Minor (.503) is last in the NL in that category. Minor’s .340 OBP allowed is also fifth-worst in the NL (Beachy’s .248 is second-best behind Matt Cain’s .245).
• Let’s close with a terrific tune that Wilco frontman Jeff Tweedy wrote and Mavis Staples sings on the album that Tweedy produced for her and also played on. You can hear it by clicking here.
“YOU ARE NOT ALONE” by Mavis Staples (J. Tweedy)
You’re not alone
I’m with you
I’m lonely too
What’s that song
Can’t be sung
By two?
A broken home
A broken heart
Isolated and afraid
Open up this is a raid
I wanna get it through to you
You’re not alone
You’re not alone
Every night
I stand in your place
Every tear
On every face
Tastes the same
A broken dream
A broken heart
Isolated and afraid
Open up this is a raid
I wanna get it through to you
You’re not alone
An open hand
An open heart
There’s no need to be afraid
Open up this is a raid
I wanna get it through to you
You’re not alone
I wanna get it through to you
You’re not alone
I’m gonna get it through to you
You’re not alone
– David O’Brien, Braves/MIB blog
1,545 comments Add your comment
Jon
June 28th, 2012
2:56 pm
Roll Tide.
ChattTownBrian
June 28th, 2012
2:58 pm
Not afraid to admit that Martin Prado makes this guy
He can do it all. Everything.
ChattTownBrian
June 28th, 2012
2:59 pm
Jon, you suck! VOLS
Sopheee
June 28th, 2012
2:59 pm
Thanks DOB.
Gotta love a good ol’ ‘teen ‘teen blog.
Hillbilly
June 28th, 2012
2:59 pm
Don’t let the man getcha and do what he done to me…
flange1
June 28th, 2012
2:59 pm
Mavis Staples rules!
Thanks for the new blog DOB!
Ease
June 28th, 2012
2:59 pm
DS1
June 28th, 2012
3:00 pm
Sure glad I missed the “non-political discussions” earlier on the last blog!
Ease
June 28th, 2012
3:01 pm
Can’t believe Martin said, “sh***y“.
ChattTownBrian
June 28th, 2012
3:01 pm
I asked the doctor today about vitamines to take and she suggested 1 A Day mens. I honestly then asked how many times a day do I take it.
CB
June 28th, 2012
3:01 pm
Soph, they will probably trade him in off season. Just don’t appreciate what they got.
Ease
June 28th, 2012
3:02 pm
You were intentionally left out.
DS1
June 28th, 2012
3:02 pm
Tax vs Commerce Clause………. now that’s going to be interesting. (not making any particular political point…….)
Ease
Good observation a few pages back on the old blog………
Ease
June 28th, 2012
3:04 pm
Tonight’s lineup vs. ARI – Bourn 8 Heyward 9 Prado 7 McCann 2 Jones 5 Uggla 4 Freeman 3 Simmons 6 Jurrjens 1
DS1
June 28th, 2012
3:04 pm
Ease
If most folks are in agreement, it’s hard to have an argument I guess.
But enough of that……….
Sopheee
June 28th, 2012
3:04 pm
I’d turn into a doom and gloomer, CB.
DS1
June 28th, 2012
3:05 pm
I’m feeling a sweep coming on………….
Bo Graves!
phil
June 28th, 2012
3:07 pm
If Bourn, Heyward, Prado, Jones, Freeman and Simmons keep hitting the ball, we’re good.
We know Mac and Uggla are hopeless these days. Any kind of hit from one of them is a bonus.
I blame FG for their struggles.
Ease
June 28th, 2012
3:08 pm
Was no arguing going on…
Mixxo
June 28th, 2012
3:08 pm
Bauer owns us.
Ease
June 28th, 2012
3:08 pm
http://www.mylife.com/bo-graves
CB
June 28th, 2012
3:09 pm
So, I am waiting for the NBA draft to see how Michael Jordan screws this up for Bobcats.
Ease
June 28th, 2012
3:09 pm
I used to work for Eddie.
BravePack(FreeFan)
June 28th, 2012
3:10 pm
AT’s comment from last blog:
Willingham isn’t an option unless we are willing to trade for him. And I still don’t see all that depth at pitching equating into qaulity rotation, look at all the problems we have now. And next year isn’t any different with the possibility that JJ won’t be offered arb, Beachy possibly not making it back at all next year, Hudson another year older and I doubt all of the physical issues gone, Hanson is what he is nothing more than a 2 or 3 starter and then you lump all of these together Delgado, Minor, Teheran and Medlen to which none of them have shown they are ready to lead a club. I just don’t see all of this quality everyone has faith in for next season, I see the quantity by not quality.
Well said AT and I agree with this statement 100%. I just hope Wren sees the rotation as we do because this team really needs an ace this year and in the future. Greinke would be a really good addition for this team.
JoshTown
June 28th, 2012
3:10 pm
“Prado is a baseball player.” Very well said. Go Braves! And lovin the Mavis Staples!
Murph
June 28th, 2012
3:13 pm
Surprised the Braves weren’t really in on Puig, especially after working so hard on Soler and missing out.
I’m not even going to attempt any more guesses at next year’s OF anymore… Heyward and two stiffs would be my guess.
That sounds like a band name. Heyward And The Stiffs. A blues band, no doubt.
ncscoots
June 28th, 2012
3:13 pm
I can repeat to myself as many times as I like that “2 or 3, just doesn’t make that much difference”, and this top of the order still irks me. I can’t seem to help it, LOL.
cricket
June 28th, 2012
3:14 pm
Can’t believe Martin said, “sh***y“.
how did he manage to pronounce those 3 stars?
some maroons here want DOB to follow the lead of so-called tough big city journalists and criticize players and coaches but personally i feel very lucky with the sensible journalism we get compared to a**holes like this in BOS -
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/28/the-boston-globe-piles-on-clay-buchholz/
Sopheee
June 28th, 2012
3:14 pm
Reportedly listening to offers for that no. 2 pick, CB.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 28th, 2012
3:15 pm
So he moves Uggla and Freeman down when they struggle for a bit, eh? Gotcha.
Ease
June 28th, 2012
3:16 pm
Josh Smith for all of Charlotte’s picks.
cricket
June 28th, 2012
3:16 pm
Prado is a baseball player
sounds like NFL mandated utterance of “National Football League” during all their game telecasts ..
go-BRAVOS
June 28th, 2012
3:17 pm
Uh oh facing a pitcher making his debut. That means the Braves bats will be silent tonight.
David O'Brien
June 28th, 2012
3:18 pm
Braves lineup: Bourn CF, Heyward RF, Prado LF, McCann C, Jones 3B, Uggla 2B, Freeman 1B, Simmons SS, Jurrjens P
CB
June 28th, 2012
3:18 pm
Soph, I know, his track record on decision making is not too good. Adam Morrison and Kwame Brown for examples.
Hillbilly
June 28th, 2012
3:19 pm
ncscoots
I can repeat to myself as many times as I like that “2 or 3, just doesn’t make that much difference”, and this top of the order still irks me. I can’t seem to help it, LOL.
ncbravesfan90
June 28th, 2012
3:19 pm
Even more a reason the Braves will be interested…
According to CBS Sports’ Jon Heyman, the Cubs are willing to eat part of Ryan Dempster’s contract in a trade.
ncscoots
June 28th, 2012
3:20 pm
Uh oh facing a pitcher making his debut. That means the Braves bats will be silent tonight
Bauer’s got a chance to be a good one, no doubt, but he gets the hurt-locker tonight. He’ll get fastball-happy, as do most rooks with a good one, and that’s a bad idea against the Braves.
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
3:21 pm
Bauer has struggled with control in the minors this year. Great pitching prospect, but I still think the Braves will hit him a bit tonight.
ncscoots
June 28th, 2012
3:21 pm
Boat is still floating
I’m happy to lie back and take the sun, up until the time I feel water around my feet.
Churt21
June 28th, 2012
3:22 pm
Great Stuff, DOB. As great as Bourn and Jason and Kimbrel have been, Martin is probably the most valuable guy. I can’t imagine the difference without him.
Fish Bisch
June 28th, 2012
3:23 pm
Bauer owns us
Braveone
June 28th, 2012
3:23 pm
From the previous blog which had 1,416 comments, TheOnlyBravesFan led the way with 111 posts. There were 168 different poster names. Here are the Top 25:
Rank Poster Frequency
1 TheOnlyBravesFan 111
2 Ease 95
3 Efrim 70
4 nolie 56
5 jeffrey d 44
6 ncscoots 44
7 Lew 41
8 Murph 39
9 CraZy 36
10 cabravesfan 36
11 NickB 34
12 ChattTownBrian 33
13 Jimmy 31
14 Tomahawk Mafia 29
15 richbrave 29
16 ncbravesfan90 28
17 Bat Masterson 27
18 TennesseePaul 27
19 phil 25
20 McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô: 24
21 JNick 22
22 CaptainMudd 20
23 Ward 20
24 cricket 20
25 Arkansas Transplant 19
TennesseePaul
June 28th, 2012
3:25 pm
Thanks for the work DOB.
GO BRAVES!!
Last 9 Starts of the Starting 9
_________AVG__OBP__SLG___OPS_wOBA_L9S9+
Bourn__ .275 .268 .400 0.668 .283 ___74
Heyward .485 .500 1000 1.500 .603 __283
Prado__ .333 .359 .500 0.859 .367 __125
McCann_ .162 .205 .189 0.394 .166 ____7
Chipper .235 .333 .412 0.745 .330 ___97
Uggla__ .118 .211 .118 0.328 .133 ___-8
Freeman .257 .297 .371 0.669 .296 ___77
Simmons .344 .333 .438 0.771 .359 __103
Jurrjen .167 .286 .167 0.452 .180 ___27
Hillbilly
June 28th, 2012
3:25 pm
I’m happy to lie back and take the sun, up until the time I feel water around my feet.
Well, you just Dylan Bundyed Trevor Bauer at 3:20, so you’ve got one more day of sun.
Tomahawkin
June 28th, 2012
3:25 pm
I normally Don’t get Greedy, but this is a Must Sweep…Gotta Finish taking the D-Bags to the Woodshed before the Epic Clash this weekend against the Curly W…
My Pick to Click will be Double J with a Line on 6 1/3’s IP with 2 ER in a 4-2 W…
ChattTownBrian
June 28th, 2012
3:26 pm
They’ll eat part of Dempster’s contract in a trade means they want a top prospect and probably a little more. Same with Garza.
I’m with Lew – we ain’t getting a top rotation guy. Middle guy that’ll eat some innings up.
ChopChamps95
June 28th, 2012
3:27 pm
@Murph
I’m sure the Braves will make Bourn an offer, probably something around 4/40, maybe even 5/50 (pipe dream to me but you never know) but he’ll probably turn it down and go elsewhere. They’ve had interest in BJ Upton in that past. With Desmond Jennings already there, Rays don’t have a need for Upton I would think so I wouldn’t be shocked at all to see Wren go after him even if he has to overpay (which would surprise me even less). The CF depth, in term of suitbale everyday players, in this organization is atrocious IMO.
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
3:28 pm
I can’t help it, I feel a sweep coming tonight!
ncscoots
June 28th, 2012
3:28 pm
Well, you just Dylan Bundyed Trevor Bauer at 3:20, so you’ve got one more day of sun.
I have to be careful with that stuff, a man only got so much mojo he can fling. Get too prediction-happy and it’ll bite you in the tukas.
DS1
June 28th, 2012
3:29 pm
scoots
It’s the traditionalist in most of us that want the best hitter batting third. But in our case, who is truly the best hitter? Heyward or Prado? That’s a tough one four shore.
come on freddy
June 28th, 2012
3:29 pm
Leave Bourn at leadoff and the rookie 8th. Use guys that are hot in the middle of the order and slumping guys lower. Take a pic Freddy.
cf Michael Bourn .309 .353 .445
lf Martin Prado .317 .378 .459
rf Jason Heyward .282 .354 .520
3b Chipper Jones .290 .366 .455
1b Freddie Freeman .258 .304 .438
2b Dan Uggla .238 .366 .418
c Brian McCann .234 .305 .396
SS Andrelton Simmons .325 .361 .494
Michael Procton
June 28th, 2012
3:30 pm
We’ve heard this story before with Prado in June. Let’s see him not collapse down the stretch in August and September.
DS1
June 28th, 2012
3:32 pm
CTB
In my humble opinion, both Dempster and Garza are not top of the rotation guys. Both are solid 2’s when they are on.
Not exactly who is our #1 right now. Hanson or Huddy? (and some would say that neither of them is a top of the rotation guy either.)
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
3:32 pm
D-Backs got two more coming with Tyler Skaggs and Archie Bradley.
That’s serious pitching depth.
DS1
June 28th, 2012
3:33 pm
Not sure where this love affair that Fredi has with Mac came from? He needs to drop a few slots in the order.
Venice Jim
June 28th, 2012
3:34 pm
Not to be outdone by the Phillies giving up 5 in the top of the 1st earlier, the Nationals have now surrendered 5 runs to the Rockies…
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
3:35 pm
Hudson, Hanson, whoever Minor is traded for, Delgado and Teheran in 2013…….
ncscoots
June 28th, 2012
3:36 pm
But in our case, who is truly the best hitter? Heyward or Prado? That’s a tough one four shore.
Depends on how you see the 3, I guess. Heyward is more of a damage guy, Bourn and Prado have been a superb tandem, and like that. That’s just me, though. As long as they’re both hitting, not a whole lot of difference where they slot, certainly not enough to impact a single game. Maybe you get some significance over 90 games, but both are going to get a little slumpy at some point. Then Fredo can surprise us all again, and the whole 2-or-3 thing is moot.
TennesseePaul
June 28th, 2012
3:37 pm
Tyler Skaggs, is that Ricky’s kin?
ChattTownBrian
June 28th, 2012
3:38 pm
DS1, I don’t know if Hudson is an ace anymore, or if one would have ever considered him a true ace. I don’t know what an “ace” is to be 100% honest, but I assume it’s a pitcher more consistantly dominant than Hudson. I know his record is unreal when given a 3 or 4 run lead in his career and some might say that automatically qualifies him an true #1.
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
3:38 pm
Colorado up 5-0 on the Nationals and still batting in the 1st inning.
A must win tonight for our Braves then…….
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
3:39 pm
Tyler Skaggs, is that Ricky’s kin?
What a last name that is…
Dawgdad (The Original)
June 28th, 2012
3:40 pm
Mar-teen,is Mr Brave, but they shopped him around last off season. Glad they didn’t succeed!
ChattTownBrian
June 28th, 2012
3:40 pm
Minor is gone soon. I bet one of nolie’s hoveround chrome rims on that.
DZ
June 28th, 2012
3:41 pm
I am not going to jump on the Jurrjens bandwagon just yet but tonight will be telling.
His Boston outing was impressive but why do I feel that he was extra-charged with “I’ll-show-them-that-I-belong-in-the-majors” juice? If he goes back to his pre-demotion complacency, it could be disastrous.
TennesseePaul
June 28th, 2012
3:41 pm
…whoever Minor is traded for…
Ha! Polished is as good as gone to you….
… “He is dead to me. I have no son.”
ChattTownBrian
June 28th, 2012
3:41 pm
Yes sir! Go Rocks!
ncscoots
June 28th, 2012
3:41 pm
Colorado up 5-0 on the Nationals and still batting in the 1st inning.
‘Bout flippin’ time they got off their butts.
phil
June 28th, 2012
3:42 pm
A must win…lol
They ALL are!!
Tomahawkin
June 28th, 2012
3:43 pm
baseballprospectus.com
Braves Have a 70 Percent chance of getting the Wildcard “Lock It In!”
TennesseePaul
June 28th, 2012
3:43 pm
‘Bout flippin’ time they got off their butts.
They’re playing in CO. The game could be tied at 15 by the top of the second.
DS1
June 28th, 2012
3:43 pm
Did we really shop Marteen last winter, or did other clubs just inquire about him? Not sure we know the answer.
phil
June 28th, 2012
3:43 pm
It’s hot out….
that’s our excuse to lose the next 4.
ChattTownBrian
June 28th, 2012
3:43 pm
David O’Twitter is kind enough to stop his tweeting to write us a new blog. Good man.
Jimmy
June 28th, 2012
3:44 pm
There will be a Statement Sweep tonight.
Tomahawkin
June 28th, 2012
3:44 pm
Pence Just hit a homer, not good!
come on freddy
June 28th, 2012
3:44 pm
Uggla and Mac needs to be moved down until they heat up. Ross needs to play a little more too.
ncscoots
June 28th, 2012
3:44 pm
If he goes back to his pre-demotion complacency, it could be disastrous.
But can you think of a single reason he might do so? The man rode the bus for two months; his attention’s been got.
One needs a better reason to expect the worst than merely the remote possibility of it.
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
3:46 pm
Ha! Polished is as good as gone to you….
… “He is dead to me. I have no son.”
I really do like him and see a #3 starter in there. I mean, he’s Polished……
phil
June 28th, 2012
3:48 pm
Right now, Uggla should bat 9th behind any and all pitchers, with Mac hitting 8th behind any and all pitchers, all of whom are hotter right now than either of em….
And that includes the relievers with zero at bats for years now…
DS1
June 28th, 2012
3:48 pm
So if we lose tonight, does that mean the season’s over?
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
3:48 pm
OF Conner Lien with a couple of singles, couple of walks and a couple of stolen bases for GCL Braves today.
Jimmy
June 28th, 2012
3:49 pm
DKnobler: Good to hear that @CJNitkowski has officially jumped to the media side. Doing postgame show tonight for Braves radio.
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
3:50 pm
If the Phillies lose this game, there quest for a division title is O-V-E-R.
How can they possibly erase a 11 game lead in the loss column?!?!?
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
3:51 pm
When did Jason Grilli become a dominant reliever?
Jimmy
June 28th, 2012
3:52 pm
Hate to say it, Phils cut the lead to 5-4, still batting with two on.
keylargo
June 28th, 2012
3:52 pm
Start the lineup with these four and finish it any way you want to.
1. Bourn
2. Chipper
3. Heyward
4. Prado
DS1
June 28th, 2012
3:52 pm
Efrim
Statement game for Phillies?
Bat Masterson
June 28th, 2012
3:52 pm
Good read, DOB. Thanks
Jimmy
June 28th, 2012
3:52 pm
5-4 Pirates headed to the 9th.
come on freddy
June 28th, 2012
3:54 pm
Medlen needs to be in the rotation. Streched him out in AAA and wasted 2 weeks. Why, just to put him back in pen to pitch 1 inning in games already 4 runs down. What’s up with that. Pinchey Idiots.
Either Minor or Deldago one needs to go down for a little while. Hard to win with 2 kids in rotation back to back. Either one would be fine with me but not both this year. What we really need to do is package at least 1 of Mike Minor / RHP Randall Delgado RHP / Julio Teheran for good vet starter.
Jimmy
June 28th, 2012
3:55 pm
Which one of the bat boys cuts FF’s hair?
ncscoots
June 28th, 2012
3:55 pm
Uggla and Mac needs to be moved down until they heat up.
Unfortunately, by the time you’d realize that they had “heated up”, they would already have used up a lot of the “heat”, in spots where it would do the least good. You’d then move them back up in the order, right about the time they would cool off. Buying high and selling low, constantly.
keylargo
June 28th, 2012
3:55 pm
How can they possibly erase a 11 game lead in the loss column?!?!?
You can honestly ask that @ game 78?
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
3:56 pm
Statement game for Phillies?
I’m just not sure they should play the remaining 84 games if they can’t win this 1 game………
That’s as clear as day to me.
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
3:57 pm
I’m being Looney Tunes, key. Just messin around on this Thursday afternoon.
ncscoots
June 28th, 2012
3:58 pm
Statement game for Phillies?
You can turn ‘em over and brown the other side: they’re done.
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
3:59 pm
What we really need to do is package at least 1 of Mike Minor / RHP Randall Delgado RHP / Julio Teheran for good vet starter.
So,again, we have trade requests involving Julio Teheran because Polished couldn’t get the job done and has an ERA over 5 for his career. We overdraft the kid #7 overall in 2009, he pitches poorly, and then he costs us Julio Teheran because he pitches poorly.
Makes a ton of sense to me.
keylargo
June 28th, 2012
4:00 pm
Efrim – I haven’t looked it up but the Braves seemed to have lost about 11 games in the loss column in about 2 weeks. It can be done.
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
4:00 pm
Who are these guys the Phillies are using here in high leverage situations?
bravesgrl4life
June 28th, 2012
4:01 pm
Rockies up 6-0 over the Nats! Bottom of 2nd
ncscoots
June 28th, 2012
4:01 pm
Makes a ton of sense to me.
Better than that is the “at least one”, implying that two, heck, all three, for that matter, can move along, no problem
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
4:01 pm
7-0
bravesgrl4life
June 28th, 2012
4:02 pm
Make it 7-0
bravesgrl4life
June 28th, 2012
4:02 pm
We gotta get the sweep tonight and move to 2.5 behind the gNats.
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
4:03 pm
Better than that is the “at least one”, implying that two, heck, all three, for that matter, can move along, no problem
I mean, they have all had their chance to show what they can do at the major league level. Especially Julio. 4 spot starts later, he’s cooked.
bravesgrl4life
June 28th, 2012
4:03 pm
Rocks done in the 2nd.
No. 1 Braves Fan
June 28th, 2012
4:04 pm
Efrim: They can erase an 11 game deficit easy with almost 90 games to play. Not saying they will and I hope they don`t but they have deep pockets and can right the ship with the right moves.
ncscoots
June 28th, 2012
4:04 pm
You know, I read some of this trade stuff, and I’m just grateful that Vizcaino is on the DL. Otherwise, we’d get folks here ready to stuff all four of those guys in a package for….I dunno, somebody.
Your editor
June 28th, 2012
4:05 pm
Proofread, please!
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
4:06 pm
They can erase an 11 game deficit easy with almost 90 games to play.
Guys, I was joking. It’s silly season on the ole blog today.
Jimmy
June 28th, 2012
4:06 pm
Nats should have used their closer in that ugly first.
That’s where the game was lost.
7-0 after two.
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
4:07 pm
You know, I read some of this trade stuff, and I’m just grateful that Vizcaino is on the DL. Otherwise, we’d get folks here ready to stuff all four of those guys in a package for….I dunno, somebody
And that Lucas Sims and Alex Wood can’t get traded until next year. Or else, they’d be outta here for Liriano, right?
Bat Masterson
June 28th, 2012
4:07 pm
The season rests on JJ’s balky knee tonight. No pressure
phil
June 28th, 2012
4:08 pm
Why do we have to get the sweep?
It will only raise our already unrealistic hopes and lead to further wailing and gnashing of teeth here and elsewhere once the next monumental losing streak hits…
How’s that for optimism?
monty
June 28th, 2012
4:08 pm
I think right now it would be pretty easy to identify a hot streak with McCann and Uggla(especially Uggla) solid contact bat on ball would be a hot streak. Couple of 2 hit games back to back- there’s your hot streak. If and when that happens, reshuffle the deck.
Jimmy
June 28th, 2012
4:09 pm
Headed to the bottom of the 9th. Pirates 5-4.
ncscoots
June 28th, 2012
4:09 pm
They can erase an 11 game deficit easy with almost 90 games to play.
Well, the 1914 Braves were able to do it, and that was only an entire flippin’ century ago, LOL, so yes, overcoming double-digit deficits at the All-Star break ought to be “easy”.
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
4:10 pm
Teheran, Vizcaino, Minor, Delgado, Gilmartin, Graham, Sims, Wood, Cabrera, and Merejo for [insert older starting pitcher].
But we keep Zeke, so it’s okay…
Jimmy
June 28th, 2012
4:11 pm
Phils have top of their order coming up.
bravesgrl4life
June 28th, 2012
4:11 pm
Nail it down, Pirates.
Jimmy
June 28th, 2012
4:12 pm
Rollins singles.
ncscoots
June 28th, 2012
4:13 pm
But we keep Zeke, so it’s okay…
I now fear for Zeke.
Jimmy
June 28th, 2012
4:13 pm
Rollins bunted to 2nd. 1 out.
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
June 28th, 2012
4:14 pm
Heyward still doesn’t get the recognition he deserves as the most gifted and talented athlete on this team. So as much as I respect Martin Prado and his incredible work ethic…..when your best hitter, athlete, RBI guy isn’t in the middle of your batting order…..you shouldn’t be managing, period.
bravesgrl4life
June 28th, 2012
4:14 pm
Washington has bases loaded with one out. Hope they get some of our mojo on having bases loaded with less than 2 outs.
Bat Masterson
June 28th, 2012
4:15 pm
Poor Jason …… It ain’t fair I tell you
Jimmy
June 28th, 2012
4:15 pm
Victorino strikes out. two down. Rollins on 2nd.
Jimmy
June 28th, 2012
4:16 pm
Rollins steals third.
Tomahawkin
June 28th, 2012
4:17 pm
Pirates Will Blow It!
Watch!
keylargo
June 28th, 2012
4:17 pm
Phillies officially eliminated by Efrim.
B_F 54
June 28th, 2012
4:18 pm
I love to watch the phillies lose
GO BRAVOS
bravesgrl4life
June 28th, 2012
4:18 pm
Harper struck out swinging. Now they gotta get Zimmerman.
Tomahawkin
June 28th, 2012
4:18 pm
Atleast The Curly W’s are getting Slapped!
Jimmy
June 28th, 2012
4:18 pm
Pirates win 5-4.
bravesgrl4life
June 28th, 2012
4:18 pm
Phils go down 5-4
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
4:19 pm
Philles are now 36-42.
reckingball
June 28th, 2012
4:19 pm
Yankees pitchers Pettitte and Sabathia go on the DL a week after the Braves were in Yankee Stadium.
I would like to know if cowdogit, don, or any others, think Roger McDowell might of had anything to do with it.
Do any of you think that Roger might have left some of his DNA and/or cooties on the mound, when he made visits to the Braves pitchers?
Tomahawkin
June 28th, 2012
4:19 pm
Yes! The Phils Lost, Time To take a Peek at the Philly.com/philliesforum
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
June 28th, 2012
4:20 pm
Micheal Bourn, Jason Heyward, Martin Prado and Craig Kimbrel al belong on the All-Star team, and Beachy should be voted in too, although he won’t play.
ncscoots
June 28th, 2012
4:20 pm
I love to watch the phillies lose
What?!? You mean, that steal of 3B didn’t lead to an overwhelming sense of Pirate Panic that allowed the Phightens to roar back and win the game??? How can that possibly be?
bravesgrl4life
June 28th, 2012
4:21 pm
Ws got 2 on the board now. Two outs with 2 on.
ChattTownBrian
June 28th, 2012
4:21 pm
Phillies are old and stale. It was time they hit that brick wall.
nolie
June 28th, 2012
4:21 pm
cowdogit and don are both flaming idjits so who cares wth they think?
Tomahawkin
June 28th, 2012
4:21 pm
Pence Is Getting Killed on the Philly.com/Phillies Forum
Ouch!
Jimmy
June 28th, 2012
4:22 pm
Wow. Didn’t take the Nats long. 7-5
bravesgrl4life
June 28th, 2012
4:22 pm
And just like that, Morse hits a 3-run jack to make it 7-5 Rockies.
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
4:22 pm
Heyward still doesn’t get the recognition he deserves as the most gifted and talented athlete on this team.
He’s only had 80 above average plate appearances in his career since May 31st of 2010, Coach……
wait a minute, what’s that? He hit what during the ENTIRE 2nd half of 2010(320 plate appearances)? .302/.419/.457?
Hogwash. He hasn’t been good since his first 195 PA’s and everyone knows it.
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
4:23 pm
I think TenneseePaul said 15-15 or something.
bravesgrl4life
June 28th, 2012
4:23 pm
According to Gamecast on espn, Outman is getting seriously squeezed on the K zone.
nolie
June 28th, 2012
4:23 pm
gNats will fold eventually
reckingball
June 28th, 2012
4:23 pm
Enquiring minds might want to know.
ChattTownBrian
June 28th, 2012
4:25 pm
I really did think the Phillies were still the face of the division before the season started. You just can’t continue to keep winning through so many on and off key injuries. They should have never signed Howard to that contract. They’re stuck with many other big contracts as well. Rollins is one that will bite them soon, if it isn’t already.
Hey, good for us.
bravesgrl4life
June 28th, 2012
4:25 pm
Hope so,nolie.
ncscoots
June 28th, 2012
4:25 pm
Outman is getting seriously squeezed on the K zone.
He could get a foot either side, and still get hammered. We’re talking Josh Outman, here, OK?
reckingball
June 28th, 2012
4:26 pm
Anything can happen in col lo rod do.
reckingball
June 28th, 2012
4:26 pm
or should that be col lo rod doe?
richbrave
June 28th, 2012
4:27 pm
Braves Fan In MAINE:
My opinion is one bat’s already down. McCANN needs to heat up, and soon.
Jimmy
June 28th, 2012
4:27 pm
TennesseePaul
June 28th, 2012
3:43 pm
‘Bout flippin’ time they got off their butts.
They’re playing in CO. The game could be tied at 15 by the top of the second.
When a man is right, a man is right. (About it not being over yet)
Kudos 10Paul.
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
4:27 pm
gNats will fold eventually
August/September should be interesting for them with Strasburg and Zimmermann.
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
June 28th, 2012
4:27 pm
Efrim, like I said before….Heyward still doesn’t get the recognition he deserves. Not from you, most of the fan base or his own manager.
Bat Masterson
June 28th, 2012
4:28 pm
Curly Ws lead to injuries
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
June 28th, 2012
4:28 pm
Jason Heyward……Darrel Strawberry without the off field baggage.
richbrave
June 28th, 2012
4:29 pm
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
4:19 pm
“……Philles are now 36-42……”
Heh! Not seein’ many of those PHILLIE-phanatic buzzards circling on this blog now-a-days!
ChattTownBrian
June 28th, 2012
4:29 pm
Rockies and their damn high school pitchers.
Tomahawkin
June 28th, 2012
4:29 pm
“gNats will fold eventually”
Wasn’t the same thing said about the Cardinals last year when they did not lose the last 2 weeks???
Funny how that worked out…
Until we can beat The Curly W’s on a consistant basis: Don’t Take them Lightly
Hillbilly
June 28th, 2012
4:30 pm
Have no fear. The Nats only have about 8 more pitches to beat up on Outman before Tracy drops the curtain on him. 75 and out!
nolie
June 28th, 2012
4:30 pm
sorry Bat, wrong kinda Ws..
Tomahawkin
June 28th, 2012
4:31 pm
ChattTownBrian
“Rockies and their damn high school pitchers.”
Co-Sign! That Franchise Is headed for Trouble…No More PED’s to help their Hitters Bail out their High School Pitchers like they did til 2005
richbrave
June 28th, 2012
4:31 pm
When i saw the ROX up by a bunch I thought, “not for long.”
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
4:32 pm
Efrim, like I said before….Heyward still doesn’t get the recognition he deserves. Not from you, most of the fan base or his own manager.
Was really just joking, Coach. And to be honest, he really does need to put together mroe than just 80 plate appearances to be as recognized as you and me want him to be. Let’s talk September 1st.
(Rob from SC)
June 28th, 2012
4:32 pm
Lets spoil the Trevor Bauer love fest
nolie
June 28th, 2012
4:33 pm
someone on here likely said it about the Cards, but what does that have to do with 90 games left in the season and the fact that they are gonna shut down their pitchers later?
Tomahawkin
June 28th, 2012
4:33 pm
Season OVER according to Phillies Fans, They Want to Clean House. I’m ready to see the Eagles Chants on there
Skeezix
June 28th, 2012
4:33 pm
Prado is one of my favorite Braves–shows up to play hard every day and can be plugged in just about anywhere.
Jimmy
June 28th, 2012
4:33 pm
Tomahawkin- How come no more “take it to the bank” finishes to your post?
They were like a “!”, but in words.
Like this: “Until we can beat The Curly W’s on a consistant basis: Don’t Take them Lightly. And you can take that to the bank.”
richbrave
June 28th, 2012
4:34 pm
O’K’ ROX. Let’s score seven more 14-10 is fine by me.
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
June 28th, 2012
4:34 pm
The Rockies pitching stinks? Geesh, would have never guessed that one, LOL.
ChattTownBrian
June 28th, 2012
4:34 pm
JHey has a ways to go for me to 100% believe. He will get there soon. This kid has been through a ton since 2010 with injuries, struggles, the pressure and he’s starting to come out clean on the other side. I just have to see it to know for certain.
richbrave
June 28th, 2012
4:35 pm
Let’s spoil the TREVOR BAUER love-fest. CY BAUER? How can yopu say that? Brand new pitcher. Bound to be light’s out.
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
4:35 pm
Pirates are now 20-11 in their last 31 games. That is shocking with their offense.
Tomahawkin
June 28th, 2012
4:35 pm
Jimmy
“Tomahawkin- How come no more “take it to the bank” finishes to your post? ”
Don’t Worry They Will be Back, Still A Lot of Inner-Division Games Left, Starting Tomorrow Night against The Curly W’s
nolie
June 28th, 2012
4:36 pm
they were never right so he had to stop or face lawsuits from the Amer Banking Assn
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
4:37 pm
Nationals have said they will shut down Strasburg when he reaches 160 innings – which should come at some point in August.
richbrave
June 28th, 2012
4:37 pm
richbrave
June 28th, 2012
4:37 pm
b
June 28th, 2012
4:38 pm
McCann batting cleanup again, tonight.
He’s got to have pictures of Gonzalez.
richbrave
June 28th, 2012
4:38 pm
Tomahawkin
June 28th, 2012
4:38 pm
@Jimmy
In Some Respects This Year’s Gnats Team Reminds me of the 1994 Expos…That Squad was The Truth and Outplayed us that year. They were huge pests If It weren’t for the 1994 Strike they would’ve won several division crowns
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
June 28th, 2012
4:39 pm
Efrim said: Let’s talk September 1st.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
I’m thinking, come September 1st we are all gonna be ready to find another manager. Myself would also appreciate a very public apology from Frank Wren for his errors and mistaken judgment all year long.
Bat Masterson
June 28th, 2012
4:39 pm
sorry Bat, wrong kinda Ws..
I thought that was what lead to Jason Werth’s broken wrist. My mistake
nolie
June 28th, 2012
4:40 pm
what did the strike have to do with keeping them from winning in other years?????
richbrave
June 28th, 2012
4:40 pm
Shutting down STRASBURG after 160 innings? Is that our one glimmering hope against the curly ‘W’s”
Jimmy
June 28th, 2012
4:40 pm
Tomahawkin – That’s good. You grow accustom to things like that, and Fish’s “owns” line and the like. Makes one smile.
Later good folks. I’m going to try to get back before gametime. If not…GO BARVES!
RC
June 28th, 2012
4:40 pm
They were huge pests If It weren’t for the 1994 Strike they would’ve won several division crowns
They very likely would have won at least one, but I think it’s quite a stretch to say they would’ve won “several”. The Braves ‘95 team was really, really good.
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
4:42 pm
Giants and Cardinals are still two good teams in the NL. Reds have the bullpen and the best hitter on the planet. Nats have a strong pitching staff 1-12. I don’t believe in the D-Backs, Pirates and Mets.
Tumbledown
June 28th, 2012
4:42 pm
Reckingball (4:23 post): Spelling alert – It is “inquiring” and not “enquiring”. Otherwise, I believe that McDowell is indirectly to blame for every ailment of every MLB pitcher. He must be stopped.
BBUA
June 28th, 2012
4:43 pm
I hate to admit this but I was in favor in trading Prado over the winter if we could a power hitting left fielder. I’m glad he was not traded, he is a certainly an allstar and probably one of MVP of the team. Good job Prado, Go Braves.
.
I will be at the game tonight, hope JJ has another good start.
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
4:43 pm
By the way, Carlos Beltran – .312/.400/.582 in 73 games played here on June 28th.
But he’s broken and won’t be able to trot out to RF at some point very soon.
Ward
June 28th, 2012
4:44 pm
Hello everyone! Have today off, and going to a fund raiser dinner tonight. I was looking all over for info, and on the trade rumors. Greinke isn’t even linked to the Braves.
1.Carlos Quentin
2. Joe Saunders
3. Garza
4. Dempster
5. Houston Street. These were linked to the Braves on trade rumors.
Greinke might be too much money?
Skeezix
June 28th, 2012
4:44 pm
Oh, did the Phils lose again? Too bad, ha ha.
I don’t miss the commentary from the Philly fans at all. If the Phils go on a roll, watch out, they’ll be back.
VaBravesFan
June 28th, 2012
4:44 pm
Heyward should be in the 3-hole after the all star break if he keeps playing well.
Tumbledown
June 28th, 2012
4:45 pm
Wait, I see why you used “enquiring.” Nevermind.
timthebrave
June 28th, 2012
4:46 pm
The Rockies were up 7-0 on the nats at the end of 2 and almost gave up the lead by the 3rd…7-5 rockies…No lead is safe in that ballpark….Go Braves!
cricket
June 28th, 2012
4:46 pm
Reds and Pirates are going to fold and Cards will win the division. Giants will win their division.
Credit Union on it.
Ralph
June 28th, 2012
4:46 pm
Uggla is almost where he belongs in the batting order, he is now 6th, he belongs in the 10 hole.
reckingball
June 28th, 2012
4:47 pm
Tumbledown @4:42…….You’ve heard of the National Enquirer, I’m sure.
google Enquiring Minds Want To Know.
haha
richbrave
June 28th, 2012
4:47 pm
PRADO plugs away…..yes I get it steady with the stick.
I would prefer a different analogy, He’s the energizer bunny. He just keeps going, and going, and going………
But i understand how officials of the AJC can’t use such terminology…..copywrite’s and all.
Bat Masterson
June 28th, 2012
4:48 pm
Hello everyone! Have today off, and going to a fund raiser dinner tonight.
Ward_
Tell The Donald I like his hair.
Ward
June 28th, 2012
4:48 pm
I don’t think Wren will get Josh Willingham, because he wasn’t even linked either. I think Wren will get us a good player, but within budget. That’s the way it’s looking.
richbrave
June 28th, 2012
4:49 pm
I see HARPER is currently at .278 BA. Looks like the ‘book,’ first edition, is out around the league.
timthebrave
June 28th, 2012
4:49 pm
Phillies lost again…..That’s always a good thing
ncscoots
June 28th, 2012
4:49 pm
Heyward should be in the 3-hole after the all star break if he keeps playing well.
And a month ago, Freeman was the fair-haired blog-darling 3 of the future.
I can’t keep up.
Ward
June 28th, 2012
4:50 pm
Bat – funning, but it’s for some one who got into a car accident. I’m voting for Romney though.
cricket
June 28th, 2012
4:51 pm
looser manager explained by DOB tweet –
#Braves Chipper on his pregame hop and spin thing to entertain the fellas: “The looser these guys are, the better they’ll play.”
(Rob from SC)
June 28th, 2012
4:51 pm
RC
If the strike never happened, The Expos may have been able to keep Grissom… He was a huge part of us winning
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
4:52 pm
104.4 million over 12 years for Crosby. He’s worth it, if he’s healthy…
ncscoots
June 28th, 2012
4:52 pm
Chipper is hopping and spinning? Yowsah.
DAP
June 28th, 2012
4:53 pm
Ward, im sure he appreciates your endorsement.
Bat Masterson
June 28th, 2012
4:53 pm
Ward _
Sounds like a good cause, I hope its a huge success.
Go Braves!
June 28th, 2012
4:55 pm
Wow, what’s going on with Pittsburgh? Baltimore was nice surprise of the bottom feeders. And Washington was due for a while. It was always a matter of could they win consistently. Unfortunately for the Braves, they currently are winning consistently.
But, this may be the year of the rising of the bottom feeders.
Ward
June 28th, 2012
4:55 pm
Is Wren going to get us a bat, or starting pitcher, or is he just teasing us again?
ncscoots
June 28th, 2012
4:55 pm
Ward, im sure he appreciates your endorsement.
and certainly, the President does.
Filming the ads as we speak.
bravesgrl4life
June 28th, 2012
4:55 pm
Rockies get one back.
RC
June 28th, 2012
4:56 pm
I see HARPER is currently at .278 BA. Looks like the ‘book,’ first edition, is out around the league.
For the month of June he’s batting .289/.360/.456, compared to .271/.355/.505 in May. He’s actually been fairly consistent (so far).
Mixxo
June 28th, 2012
4:56 pm
“Wow. Didn’t take the Nats long. 7-5″ – Jimmy
No surprise there. The Nats are just flat-out GOOD.
They want this.
Ward
June 28th, 2012
4:56 pm
Pittsburge, Dodgers, are interested in Jeff Francouer.
Hillbilly
June 28th, 2012
4:57 pm
Chipper is hopping and spinning? Yowsah.
Giving the official scorer the one-finger salute is sure to come next. Get Anthopoulus on the phone, quick!
ncscoots
June 28th, 2012
4:57 pm
But, this may be the year of the rising of the bottom feeders.
Dog days of August and the pressure of September has crushed the soul of many a pretender.
VaBravesFan
June 28th, 2012
4:57 pm
Heyward has the best overall skill set to be our long term 3-hole hitter soon.
Bat Masterson
June 28th, 2012
4:58 pm
I’d watch Ward if I were you guys. I think he might be a double agent, or a double double agent. Could be he’s so deep undercover he’s no longer sure who he works for.
Ward
June 28th, 2012
4:58 pm
What about a Frenchy return to Atlanta in LF?
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
4:59 pm
ESPN Stats & Info @ESPNStatsInfo
Braves/D-backs 2nite.. ARI is 37-37, which ends Atlanta’s streak of 42 games in a row played vs teams w/ winning records (went 21-21)
Brutal schedule this year.
bravesgrl4life
June 28th, 2012
4:59 pm
Okay, all. Leaving work now
Go Rockies! Go BRAVES!!!!
bobbymahlon
June 28th, 2012
4:59 pm
COME On Freddi 3:29pm and 3:44pm. I agree with everything you have said.
Ralph
June 28th, 2012
4:59 pm
Mixxo
Nats losing 8-5
Mixxo
June 28th, 2012
5:01 pm
-
Oh….:oops:
reckingball
June 28th, 2012
5:01 pm
go rockers!
ncscoots
June 28th, 2012
5:01 pm
Mixxo…Nats losing 8-5
Don’t go confusing that guy with facts. He’s bumfuddled enough, as is.
bobbymahlon
June 28th, 2012
5:02 pm
WARD 4:58pm I agree but with Frency’s arm put him in right and Heyward in left. Remember Frenchy won a gold glove award before runners stopped running with him out there.
Ward
June 28th, 2012
5:02 pm
Braves wouldn’t have to trade much to get Frenchy, and he would fit the budget, and he can hit 18 to 20 HR, which is more than Hinske,or Diaz.
RC
June 28th, 2012
5:02 pm
(Rob from SC),
It’s certainly possible that they could have kept Grissom. But they likely couldn’t have kept him and Larry Walker, and Cliff Floyd turning terrible in 95 wouldn’t have helped them any. And while it’s easy to point out that they lost Ken Hill, the 1995 version wasn’t going to help them as much.
Ralph
June 28th, 2012
5:02 pm
Heyward should be in the 3-hole after the all star break if he keeps playing well.
Agree so long as they don’t put Prado back in the 2 hole, Simmons should be in the 2 hole.
Mixxo
June 28th, 2012
5:03 pm
ncscoots -
Hadn’t checked the scores yet “chief.”
Deal widdit or STFU.
ncscoots
June 28th, 2012
5:04 pm
You’re dealt with, chief. That’s the easiest part of the day.
Ralph
June 28th, 2012
5:05 pm
Nats losing 9-5 http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/mlb/scoreboard/index.jsp?c_id=atl
VaBravesFan
June 28th, 2012
5:05 pm
Ty (Silver Spring, MD)
Jerry,Andrelton Simmons’ Fangraph’s WAR is 1.3 in 22 game games compares favorably to Bryce Harper’s WAR of 1.5 in 53 games. Do we officially have a Rookie of the Year race brewing in the NL for the best hitter?
Jerry Crasnick (1:04 PM)
Ty, Simmons is an amazing defender, but he has a ways to go before an NL ROY race begins brewing. Or percolating. Harper has a major headstart on him.
VaBravesFan
June 28th, 2012
5:06 pm
Frankur (Atlanta)
Is Teheran, Delgado, Minor and Pastornicky enough for Greinke (if Liberty loosens up the purse strings to get him to agree on an extension?)
Jerry Crasnick (1:19 PM)
Frankur, Wow, I can’t see the Braves trading three young starters (even if they’ve yet to break through as hoped) for 2-3 months of Zack Greinke. Don’t see that one happening.
Ward
June 28th, 2012
5:06 pm
I’ll start a small chant…..Bring back Frenchy…….. Bring back Frenchy……
VaBravesFan
June 28th, 2012
5:06 pm
Julio (Dominican Republic)
Hi Jerry. Can we Braves fans expect a big deadline addition given the state of the pitching staff and the offense? Which players do you see trading for?
Jerry Crasnick (1:25 PM)
Julio, I don’t think the Braves have made a firm decision what they want to do yet. If they can develop a little more consistency with the kids in the rotation, maybe they’ll target a bat. If McCann gets rolling and Chipper can stay healthy and productive, maybe they lean more toward pitching. Frank Wren seems to be looking at a moving target at the moment.
VaBravesFan
June 28th, 2012
5:08 pm
John (Green Bay)
Have the Braves ever made a big trade deadline move? I seriously can’t think of one.
Jerry Crasnick (1:35 PM)
John, That’s the other thing: The Braves are always hamstrung financially, so an incoming player’s salary is always going to be an issue.
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
5:08 pm
Mixxo is so angry. You need a Braves World Series to cheer up. How about rooting for the home team?
VaBravesFan
June 28th, 2012
5:09 pm
Rod (Atlanta)
Jerry, is it possible for the Braves to have 3 outfielders in the all star game?
Jerry Crasnick (1:45 PM)
Rod, I don’t see it. You have Beltran, Braun, Melky, CarGo, McCutchen and Stanton in the mix for spots, along with the Atlanta guys. No way all three Braves go.
VaBravesFan
June 28th, 2012
5:09 pm
AJ (NJ)
Didn’t the Braves trade for Teixeira at the deadline a few years ago?
Jerry Crasnick (1:49 PM)
AJ, They did, but that was a while ago. They also gave away Elvis Andrus, Neftali Feliz and Matt Harrison (not to mention Jarrod Saltalamacchia). The Teixeira trade has been the gift that keeps on giving for the Rangers.
ncscoots
June 28th, 2012
5:09 pm
Rockies need to try a pitcher not named “Josh”, I think.
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
5:10 pm
Is Teheran, Delgado, Minor and Pastornicky enough for Greinke (if Liberty loosens up the purse strings to get him to agree on an extension?)
Really just a lack of understanding of baseball right there.
Darryl Blackberry
June 28th, 2012
5:10 pm
That photo of Chipper from last night makes him look like a 90-year old man running the bases.
[Insert pithy comment here.]
Jaded Braves Fan
June 28th, 2012
5:10 pm
“Braves/D-backs 2nite.. ARI is 37-37, which ends Atlanta’s streak of 42 games in a row played vs teams w/ winning records (went 21-21)”
That is an incredible stat.
The Braves might be set up for a huge second half. I’ll be honest, after that 8-game losing streak, I wasn’t sure we’d still be in contention after we got done with the AL East, but here we are.
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
5:11 pm
The Teixeira trade has been the gift that keeps on giving for the Rangers.
Yeah, yeah. Who cares. Andrus hasn’t hit at al….oh wait a minute.
Darryl Blackberry
June 28th, 2012
5:12 pm
Liberty Media just won over 900 million dollars in a lawsuit. So, after 850 million dollars in corporate pay raises and legal fees, perhaps we’ll have a few mil to throw around in the free agent market this season…
Ward
June 28th, 2012
5:12 pm
Guy’s Francisco Fernia was mentioned,and the Braves do have interest in him, as well. I hope I spelled his name right.
Brave New World
June 28th, 2012
5:13 pm
Rockies are doing their best to let Nats back in game. Outman (poor name for starting pitcher with ERA of 9+) only lasts 3 unnings.
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
5:13 pm
Andrus away from the Ballpark in Arlington: .309/.391/.414
Finally starting to contribute offensively at age 23. Seems like he’s been in the league for a while, and he has.
DawgDad
June 28th, 2012
5:13 pm
If McCann and Uggla were 22 they’d be at the bottom of the batting order, on the bench, or in Gwinnett. I was hoping Dan had turned a corner earlier this year, now I’m fearing the Braves won’t get anything at all from him the rest of the year (he had ONE productive month last year).
Brave New World
June 28th, 2012
5:13 pm
That’s innings!
ncscoots
June 28th, 2012
5:14 pm
Yeah, yeah. Who cares. Andrus hasn’t hit at al….oh wait a minute
What-evah. Folks who still moan about that trade at this point ain’t ever gonna get it or get over it. It’s become Holy Writ to ‘em, by now.
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
5:17 pm
What-evah.
Five years. Been a long, long time and many Top 5 Organizational rankings later, we are all still here.
ncscoots
June 28th, 2012
5:17 pm
If McCann and Uggla were 22 they’d be at the bottom of the batting order, on the bench, or in Gwinnett.
Except that they aren’t 22. They’re ML vets with 3000 ABs and track records of hitting.
Bat Masterson
June 28th, 2012
5:18 pm
Frankur (Atlanta)
Is Teheran, Delgado, Minor and Pastornicky enough for Greinke (if Liberty loosens up the purse strings to get him to agree on an extension?)
And readers are left to wonder, if this is a serious question, how did the questioner ever learn to turn on the device that let him ask it.
FireFrediot!!!
June 28th, 2012
5:19 pm
Will someone PLEASE tell this idiot of a manager that McCann & Uggla should be hitting 7 & 8?! They’re the butthole of the lineup so put them at the bottom where buttholes belong!! Try this one out FREDI. 1.Bourn 2.Prado 3.Heyward 4.Chipper 5.Simmons 6.Freeman 7.McCann 8.Uggla 9. P
Simmons needs to be at a spot where he can drive in runs!! He has clearly shown he is capable of hitting with RISP. Chipper & Freeman could be flip-flopped at 4 & 6 I wouldn’t mind David Ross taking over catching duties, or give Gattis or Bethancourt a shot!! McCann clearly STILL can’t see, does anyone else notice how he still squints at the pitcher every time he’s up to bat? The only thing Uggla is good for is walks. He can’t hit with RISP, he only HRs when it DOESNT matter. solo shots, when the braves are either getting blown out or are blowing someone out. Same with McCann all his HRs are solo shots, with the exception of a lucky Grand slam. Trade for a real 2B, or stick Prado back there & bring back Constanza or bring up Ernesto Mejia!! Give em a shot! He’s tearing up AAA, & his original position was LF. Have no CLUE why this idiot management has moved him to 1B when we’ve got a solid 1Bmen already. Clean house in management!! Ditch Wren & Gonzo!! Let ME run the damn team!!
Ward
June 28th, 2012
5:19 pm
We need to put the Tex trade in the past, and be bold agian, and make some more trades.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 28th, 2012
5:20 pm
If McCann and Uggla were 22 they’d be at the bottom of the batting order, on the bench, or in Gwinnett.
I had a dream last night that the Braves acquired some semi-big-name catcher and optioned BMac to Class-A Rome…
ncscoots
June 28th, 2012
5:23 pm
And readers are left to wonder, if this is a serious question, how did the questioner ever learn to turn on the device that let him ask it.
This is the end-result of 140-character expression, LOL. Your mind is never stretched, thus, you cannot formulate thoughts in the abstract. You are instead reduced to thinking that such a trade as the one proposed is a “good” one.
The Mayans are right, just wrong about the reason. The poles won’t reverse and cause us to fly off into space; social media will make everyone so air-headed that they’ll float off naturally.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 28th, 2012
5:23 pm
FireFrediot Same with McCann all his HRs are solo shots, with the exception of a lucky Grand slam.
Only 4 of BMac’s 9 homers are solo-shots. Please hang up and try again…
Kat
June 28th, 2012
5:24 pm
David thanks for the new DOB blog. A great read as I’m driving across NY from Rochester back to Albany. Caught the Gwinnett game last night. The triple A Yankees have no home so the Braves played them in Rochester. There was about 1000 people there. Saddest attendance I’ve ever seen at a ballgame, even short season single A near where I live has more people attend.
Ward
June 28th, 2012
5:25 pm
“I Had A Dream” ……..Wren got us that starting pitching , and bat, and I saw the post season in our sights…….. All, have a good one! Talk later tonight, and Peace my friends…….”Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!” I Had A Dream………………
ncscoots
June 28th, 2012
5:26 pm
You need a Cray to count up all the bizarrely wrong things in that 5:19, man. Have mercy.
VaBravesFan
June 28th, 2012
5:27 pm
I see the post season in our our sights with the current team.
CB
June 28th, 2012
5:28 pm
Watch the roads when you drive,folks. Texters are going to kill us all!
Bat Masterson
June 28th, 2012
5:29 pm
Funny, scoots.
Kat_
Reading and driving?
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 28th, 2012
5:29 pm
Ok I see Mac 4th uggla sixth. Me no like. hit uggs 4th imo I see I was first on old blog. Cool. Will. be @ home soon guys. Peace. (sorry about typing, on iPhone)
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 28th, 2012
5:31 pm
McCann how many home hr for Mac? Any things I missed on blog ( I left around noon est)
nuh uh
June 28th, 2012
5:32 pm
the rockies are tuurrrabuulll. let’s see if they blow this lead too.
Bat Masterson
June 28th, 2012
5:32 pm
Let ME run the damn team!!
I would pay to see that, especially if you can book Taters monkeys riding dogs, too.
Arkansas Transplant
June 28th, 2012
5:34 pm
Uggla should be in the 6th spot, no reason in the world for him to touch the 4th or 5th spot right now.
Arkansas Transplant
June 28th, 2012
5:38 pm
Don’t know why everyone defends Uggla by stating he’s streaky and when he’s hot, he’s hot. Here’s the probably with that thinking, if he’s hot for 8 or so games at a time but cold (I mean freezing cold) for 19 or so at a time where’s the benefit? So he produces for 30 percent of the year? Where do you get your production the other 70 when he’s the one expected to supply it?
Uggla needs a day off
June 28th, 2012
5:39 pm
Grienke is good, but not good enough to give a 5 year deal to, IMO. He could very well have arm problems down the road or could abruptly retire. He has had anxiety problems before and might have again. He does want to play for either Atl, Miami, or TB though, so we will see.
Uggla needs a day off
June 28th, 2012
5:41 pm
Uggla is what he is, a .230 hitter who K’s a lot, and hits some homers. He never should have been a cleanup hitter and never should have batted in front of Hoss, period. He may be the worst 2B since Frank Bolling in Atlanta.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 28th, 2012
5:43 pm
AT: why not? The guy is a cleanup hitter. He’s slumped for 3 weeks. He hit for 2 months before that.
Uggla needs a day off
June 28th, 2012
5:44 pm
Let’s tip our cap to J Hey. He deserves to be on the AS team but won’t be. Braves reps will be Kimbrel and Uggly.
NickB
June 28th, 2012
5:45 pm
Ward
Frenchy sucks
that is all
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 28th, 2012
5:45 pm
Some homers. Geez. The guy lead the team and was top 10 ( IIRC) in the league.
ncbravesfan90
June 28th, 2012
5:45 pm
Good thing theres only 30% humidity in Atlanta right now. That’s not bad at all.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 28th, 2012
5:46 pm
Bourne and Prado should make the AS team but the NL is stacked with outfielders.
Kat
June 28th, 2012
5:47 pm
Bat haha, do I.. yes, am I right now no…riding shotgun.
One Big Dummy
June 28th, 2012
5:49 pm
Until Chipper goes cold again or McCann/Uggla heat up:
Bourn
Prado
Heyward
Chipper
Freeman
Uggla
McCann
Simmons
Pitcher
NickB
June 28th, 2012
5:49 pm
you Uggla haters seem to have no concept of time, before his recent skid, he was hitting really well AND was getting on base at nice pace, he was good for 2 months and a week, now has struggled for 3 weeks and you think this means that he just sucks and only hits 1/3rd of the year?
I think perhaps football might be more your intelligence level
Arkansas Transplant
June 28th, 2012
5:49 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan, Uggla is not a cleanup hitter just cause he has power, I’d bet you that Prado would be more productive in the 4 hole over a season then Uggla would be. He’s been off more than he’s been on, that’s just plain and simple and the bad thing is.. he’s not just off, he’s in another world off.
VaBravesFan
June 28th, 2012
5:50 pm
The Braves would only be interested in trading for Greinke if they could sign him to a new long-term contract, writes MLB.com’s Mark Bowman. The Braves could, as rumored, use some of the money budgeted for their 2013 payroll to accommodate adding Greinke or another pitcher. As Bowman points out, the Braves will have almost $36MM (Chipper Jones, Derek Lowe and Michael Bourn’s contract) coming off the books this winter, though the club will need some of those funds to re-sign Bourn or spend on another outfielder.
Besides Greinke, Bowman lists Matt Garza, Ryan Dempster and Edinson Volquez as “potential targets” for Atlanta.
NickB
June 28th, 2012
5:50 pm
Arkansas transplant
evidence to back up your claims or retract it
NickB
June 28th, 2012
5:51 pm
vabravesfan
I think that there will be another $9 mill being cleared when JJ and EOF are either traded or non-tendered.
ChattTownBrian
June 28th, 2012
5:54 pm
Depending on the Rockies is like depending on DOB to answer your question on this blog anymore. Looooooooong shot.
Arkansas Transplant
June 28th, 2012
5:54 pm
NickB, just cause the guy walked to help out his OBP doesn’t mean he’s producing, he’s here because we need a force in the middle of our lineup.
cowdogit
June 28th, 2012
5:55 pm
All Uggla is getting is curve balls , for some unknown reason he stopped hitting these pitch’es to right field .Until he corrects this problem , He won’t be seeing anymore fastballs.
cowdogit
June 28th, 2012
5:55 pm
All Uggla is getting is curve balls , for some unknown reason he stopped hitting these pitch’es to right field .Until he corrects this problem , He won’t be seeing anymore fastballs.
Capt.Mudd
June 28th, 2012
5:56 pm
I was thinking of my youth–that being a time-frame whereby MLB seemed to have many “stars” in uniform. Can anyone tell me why we fail to see ’stars’ routinely in this era of today?
Ralph Nader
June 28th, 2012
5:57 pm
The highest single-season performances were:
Barry Bonds, 268 (2002)
Barry Bonds, 263 (2004)
Barry Bonds, 259 (2001)
Fred Dunlap, 258 (1884)*
Babe Ruth, 256 (1920) *
Babe Ruth, 239 (1921) *
Babe Ruth, 239 (1923) *
Ted Williams, 235 (1941)
Ted Williams, 233 (1957)
Ross Barnes, 231 (1876)*
Barry Bonds, 231 (2003)
*** aided by corked bats and PEDs
Bonds, Ruth, and Williams are widely regarded as the best hitters in the history of the sport.
ACE
June 28th, 2012
5:57 pm
Fredi presided over one of the biggest collaspes in history last year and yet none of the reporters will question any of the moves he makes this year. Maybe they should ask Terry Francona, oh year, he lost his job.
Jerry
June 28th, 2012
5:58 pm
Alright! It would seem that Fredi is actually starting to learn a little something. Uggla being moved down to the 6th spot in the lineup. It would suit me if he wound up in the 8th spot. He’d probably be the highest paid in that spot. Hell, he’s probably the highest paid at #6 too.
Capt.Mudd
June 28th, 2012
6:00 pm
Is Dan Uggla considered a ’star?”
kelevra
June 28th, 2012
6:06 pm
braves loose tonight and they have the same record as the pirates….take it for what it’s worth
NickB
June 28th, 2012
6:07 pm
the word is lose
loose is the opposite of tight
ACE
June 28th, 2012
6:08 pm
Will any reporters ask Rafa Nadal any tough questions after his upset loss today?
kelevra
June 28th, 2012
6:09 pm
wow simple typo bro…get over it
Capt.Mudd
June 28th, 2012
6:10 pm
I don’t care has passed….now really just several man-dates forthcoming {2014}.
nuh uh
June 28th, 2012
6:12 pm
stop talking about politics on a baseball blog.
also, kelevra is a looser.
ChattTownBrian
June 28th, 2012
6:15 pm
What in the world to expect from JJ tonight … intriguing thing. Really interested in seeing what he has tonight against another pretty tough lineup.
The A Bomb
June 28th, 2012
6:19 pm
Kudos to Gonzalez for playing the starters tonight.
YOU NEVER KNOW: If both teams win a wild-card, Bauer COULD start. And to not give the starters a look at him would be a mistake.
I can’t stand the way he juggles lineups, but I’ll go on record giving him credit for getting the guys in there. Bauer is a very tough cookie who’s pitched a ton of games under pressure in high school and college. Unflappable, but gets amped up a bit too much. Sometimes looks like he drinks a gallon of 5-Hour Energy. We will see…
David O'Brien
June 28th, 2012
6:19 pm
Fredi presided over one of the biggest collaspes in history last year and yet none of the reporters will question any of the moves he makes this year. Maybe they should ask Terry Francona, oh year, he lost his job. — ACE
Maybe you should apply for a newspaper or radio/TV job so you could ask yourself, otherwise you’re going to drive yourself crazy — I’ve never seen anyone quite so obsessed as you over something you have no control over, nor knowledge pertaining to, and almost certainly never will.
NickB
June 28th, 2012
6:20 pm
I have a terrible feeling he is gonna get shelled tonight….. D-Backs hitters were heating up before Kimbrel shut the door on them.
I hope I’m wrong, but inconsistency is to be expected for a bit from JJ.
Uggla
June 28th, 2012
6:22 pm
That little white ball just won’t be still. I can’t even swat it. It is driving me nuts.
Waffle House or Bust
June 28th, 2012
6:24 pm
Once again I post an idea and you guys make fun of me. Oh is Heyward in the number two spot? Oh did I suggest that last week? Psssshhh! You guys hate when I’m right. Ha!!
Waffle House or Bust
June 28th, 2012
6:25 pm
DOB – How dare you talk like that to the original guitarist for KISS.
DAM
June 28th, 2012
6:29 pm
“Heyward should be in the 3-hole after the all star break if he keeps playing well.”
No, he should be in the 3-hole right now. What else does he have to do to get the chance to get the spot in the lineup that we all expect to be his for the next several years?
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
6:33 pm
What else does he have to do to get the chance to get the spot in the lineup that we all expect to be his for the next several years?
More than 80 plate appearances?
I don’t know, I think he should be in there right now too, but who cares? He’s in the 2nd spot, not 7th.
Felix
June 28th, 2012
6:33 pm
Dave: Not asking Fredi even more questions about the Sept. 2011 collapse in late June of 2012, when the Braves are in the heat of a division race, is all part of a vast liberal media conspiracy at the ajc. And did you know that there are Martians living Atlanta? I bet the ajc reporters, in conjunction with the federal government, conspired to keep that from us too.
CB
June 28th, 2012
6:35 pm
Yep,more important to get him out of 7th spot.
David O'Brien
June 28th, 2012
6:36 pm
Watching Diamondbacks pitcher Trevor Bauer do his unbelievable long-toss routine. He’s worked way to Braves bullpen sign, throwing all way to LF line. They use a relay man to get the ball back to him.
Murph
June 28th, 2012
6:38 pm
Moved Heyward to the 2nd spot, he continues to hit… moved Prado to the 3rd spot, he also continues to hit.
No reason to switch them around when the move is working. While I’d rather see Heyward hitting 3rd, I’d also like Fredi to leave things alone if they aren’t broken.
The A Bomb
June 28th, 2012
6:38 pm
DOB — He’s a product of the Alan Jaeger program — guy’s based here in SoCal.
jeffrey d
June 28th, 2012
6:42 pm
Good call, Murph.
Also glad Fredi moved (at least some of) our 3 slumping hitters out of the middle of the order.
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
6:42 pm
Bauer should be fun to watch.
The A Bomb
June 28th, 2012
6:43 pm
WASHINGTON 10 COLORADO 10 TOP 10
phil
June 28th, 2012
6:43 pm
VaBravesFan
June 28th, 2012
5:05 pm
Ty (Silver Spring, MD)
Jerry,Andrelton Simmons’ Fangraph’s WAR is 1.3 in 22 game games compares favorably to Bryce Harper’s WAR of 1.5 in 53 games. Do we officially have a Rookie of the Year race brewing in the NL for the best hitter?
Jerry Crasnick (1:04 PM)
Ty, Simmons is an amazing defender, but he has a ways to go before an NL ROY race begins brewing. Or percolating. Harper has a major headstart on him.
*********
harper can go 2 for his next 200 and he still wins the ROY….media darling crap.
The A Bomb
June 28th, 2012
6:44 pm
I’ve watched Bauer pitch since he was 10. He and Oakland’s Tommy Milone from my area. Detroit’s Danny Worth as well. Our PONY complex out here is the largest and most dominant in the nation for the younger players — 10 and under — then the players start to even out.
Disgusted
June 28th, 2012
6:47 pm
Phillies lose and that is good, now we have to temporarily be Rockies fans so the Nats can be beat.
10-10 game — pitching took the day off in that one
Murph
June 28th, 2012
6:48 pm
The Nationals are due for a scoring drought… no way their entire lineup can continue at this pace.
Looking forward to the showdown this weekend.
Disgusted
June 28th, 2012
6:49 pm
Hope our lineup can show Bauer a few lessons in major league humility.
They got it done last nite — Go Braves.
I don;t care how hypes he is, he is still a newbie.
jeffrey d
June 28th, 2012
6:50 pm
harper can go 2 for his next 200 and he still wins the ROY….media darling crap.
Well you can understand why. The kid’s like, 8, and he’s proving to be a great OF in the Majors.
David O'Brien
June 28th, 2012
6:50 pm
Harper just tied it up at 10 in the ninth with a homer.
The A Bomb
June 28th, 2012
6:50 pm
He’s a one-of-a-kind Disgusted. Been in a lot of pressure situations.
Closest match? Lincecum. But he’s a gamer, for sure. And a very, very smart cookie.
phil
June 28th, 2012
6:50 pm
Bat Masterson
June 28th, 2012
5:18 pm
Frankur (Atlanta)
Is Teheran, Delgado, Minor and Pastornicky enough for Greinke (if Liberty loosens up the purse strings to get him to agree on an extension?)
And readers are left to wonder, if this is a serious question, how did the questioner ever learn to turn on the device that let him ask it.
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he found it already on in a hotel lobby….sigh.
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
6:51 pm
Keith Law: Backup infielder: Andrelton Simmons, Atlanta Braves
Lowrie’s on the roster for flexibility and some bat; Simmons is here as the ultimate defensive replacement. He’s the best defensive shortstop in the majors right now, easily could handle second or third in a pinch, and, given that he sat in the upper 90s as a pitcher in junior college, would make a great emergency reliever if we ever played a 16-inning game.
Murph
June 28th, 2012
6:52 pm
Excuse me Mr Harper… what adjective would you use to describe your rookie season so far?
That’s a noun question, bro.
NickB
June 28th, 2012
6:53 pm
MURPH!!!
loved it, that’s gold!!
Disgusted
June 28th, 2012
6:53 pm
A-Bomb — He is still a rookie and he might be all that long term, but for his first start got to hope our guys make it a miserable debut for him.
Let him succeed aganst the other teams but for tonight Bauer is da Bad guy.
He might pitch a 2 hit SHO, but hope not. I’d rather us knock him out in inning two or three. Nothing personal aganst the kid.
The A Bomb
June 28th, 2012
6:55 pm
Desmond with a leadoff double off the VERY top of the fence, but he’s stranded….
COLORADO 10 WASHINGTON 10 BOT 10
Tomahawk Mafia
June 28th, 2012
6:55 pm
Time for a three game winning streak.
Disgusted
June 28th, 2012
6:56 pm
Hate to bust anyone’s bubble but its probably a two percent chance we get Grienke.
Only way we get a Grienke is to develop him. Teheran could be that guy. No way you give up three young SP’s for him and as frustrating as Minor is, he has shown ability in the past.
Minor is not having a good first full season, he could get better.
The A Bomb
June 28th, 2012
6:56 pm
And no, not at all, I want to see the Braves rack him up.
But he’s not like anything you’ve seen. When he was at UCLA and in games, he was regularly seen THROWING between innings. He’s eccentric.
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
6:57 pm
Julio Teheran pitching tonight for Gwinnett.
Disgusted
June 28th, 2012
6:57 pm
LETS GO ROCKIES CLAP CLAP CLAP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LETS GO ROCKIES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Disgusted
June 28th, 2012
6:59 pm
I am looking forward to this game A-Bomb, cannot wait now,
I don’t get that excited about rookies just because they are high draft picks but this one is interesting.
Now come on vetern Braves bat, do ur job tonite.
Maybe Uggla breaks out of it.
Got to watch the draft too, great sports night.
phil
June 28th, 2012
7:00 pm
ACE
June 28th, 2012
5:57 pm
Fredi presided over one of the biggest collaspes in history last year and yet none of the reporters will question any of the moves he makes this year. Maybe they should ask Terry Francona, oh year, he lost his job.
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don’t even bother applying for work…..stay in that basement.
The A Bomb
June 28th, 2012
7:01 pm
COLORADO 10 WASHINGTON 10 TOP 11
Disgusted
June 28th, 2012
7:01 pm
I want Teheran to do well, really do that benefits all of us Braves fans.
I really do not want Frank to trade for a strict rental. Its not smart business.
The A Bomb
June 28th, 2012
7:02 pm
Agreed Disgusted — praying for a Josh Smith unloading.
Disgusted
June 28th, 2012
7:02 pm
The players did not do the job last Sept, not all Fredi’s fault.
iTiSi
June 28th, 2012
7:03 pm
Do Braves fans really want a guy in the all star lineup representing ATL who’s batting .162 for June? He has already embarrassed himself and the town once in the all star classic. There is such a thing as reason and common sense. Is this a popularity contest, or the best players?
“A FINE IS A TAX FOR DOING WRONG; A TAX IS A FINE FOR DOING WELL” (Very appropriate for today)
phil
June 28th, 2012
7:04 pm
David O’Brien
June 28th, 2012
6:19 pm
Fredi presided over one of the biggest collaspes in history last year and yet none of the reporters will question any of the moves he makes this year. Maybe they should ask Terry Francona, oh year, he lost his job. — ACE
Maybe you should apply for a newspaper or radio/TV job so you could ask yourself, otherwise you’re going to drive yourself crazy — I’ve never seen anyone quite so obsessed as you over something you have no control over, nor knowledge pertaining to, and almost certainly never will.
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LOL! I live for dave’s slapdowns of idiotic comments like that of Ace….too funny.
Disgusted
June 28th, 2012
7:06 pm
You really want a Josh Smith unload A-Bomb.
Like any deal, its what you get back in return and how the salary cap matches in the budget in that sport.
I don;t know if I would move him for Pau Gasol or not, Gasol is still a high end player but that is a move I’d be on the fence with. Josh is quite a bit younger.
I respect Ferry as a good NBA guy, but even he cannot unload the unlikable Joe Johnson, never really cared for him anyway but there is no choice but to keep him.
Remember, Joe Johnson does not care if we show for the games.
I expect more of the same from the Hawks the next yr or two, and if you blow it up than you are back to 24-58 or so., That solves nothing. Hoping for ping pong balls to drop is not a real plan.
I’d love a Marvin Williams unload.
The A Bomb
June 28th, 2012
7:07 pm
Smith is also quite a bit dumber.
The A Bomb
June 28th, 2012
7:09 pm
COLORADO 10 WASHINGTON 10 BOT 11
phil
June 28th, 2012
7:11 pm
You stole my line A Bomb, nearly word for word…..
Can’t stand Josh Smith.
Disgusted
June 28th, 2012
7:11 pm
I guess you would be in favor of a Josh for Gasol deal?????
I would not be disgusted with it, but would take a wait and see approach and that is something that could work for us.
What do you think?
I want to unload Marvin Williams more than Josh but that is me. Passing on Chris Paul for Marvin is like transitioning from Mark Texiera to Casey Kotchman for first base, which we did for one yr.
The Hawks got more long term consequences on that one.
Hmmmm
June 28th, 2012
7:12 pm
“don’t even bother applying for work”
I think DOB’s ownage scared him off (wouldn’t blame him though, DOB’s a scary guy)
ncbravesfan90
June 28th, 2012
7:12 pm
87 mph and 88 mph on the first two JJ pitches.
phil
June 28th, 2012
7:13 pm
Mac’s chubby cheeks are already as red as an apple….
Tomahawk Mafia
June 28th, 2012
7:13 pm
Nice to get an out, but that location to Bloomquist was troublesome.
Hmmmm
June 28th, 2012
7:14 pm
would be nice to see Colorado take the Nats to 20+ innings, wear those guys out before the weekend series
David O'Brien
June 28th, 2012
7:14 pm
Chipper’s homer last night was his 252nd in Atlanta, moving him past Lou Gehrig into a tie with Stan Musial for 12th on the career list for home-game homers with one team.
(Rob from SC)
June 28th, 2012
7:15 pm
Time for Teheran to get his stuff together
phil
June 28th, 2012
7:15 pm
Releasing Marvin would be better for us than a trade….he’s worth more just being gone….
What a disappointment that bum has been.
The A Bomb
June 28th, 2012
7:15 pm
I would trade Josh Smith for Gasol in a heartbeat.
bravesgrl4life
June 28th, 2012
7:16 pm
Good 1st inning for JJ
phil
June 28th, 2012
7:17 pm
Lou Gehrig and Stan Musial weren’t squat….
MIBravesFan
June 28th, 2012
7:18 pm
Nice 1st inning, JJ!
David O'Brien
June 28th, 2012
7:18 pm
12-pitch perfect 1st inning for Jurrjens, with a flyout, line-out and groundout
jeffrey d
June 28th, 2012
7:19 pm
I’d love a Marvin Williams unload.
Marvin Williams’ mother would love a Marvin Williams unload
ncbravesfan90
June 28th, 2012
7:22 pm
That wasn’t a strike in the top of the 1st inning blue…
phil
June 28th, 2012
7:23 pm
Exactly, joe….lincecum w/o the hair.
(Rob from SC)
June 28th, 2012
7:23 pm
Heyward is ahead on the fastball… That is good to see. Getting that foot down
(Rob from SC)
June 28th, 2012
7:23 pm
and he hit it hard
The A Bomb
June 28th, 2012
7:23 pm
If you watch Bauer he is lightning quick in the leg portion of his windup…..generates the power.
phil
June 28th, 2012
7:24 pm
Bauer better do some more absurd stretches…..
TNScott
June 28th, 2012
7:24 pm
Teen Spirit, baby!!!
phil
June 28th, 2012
7:25 pm
A .305 OBP….
Make that .302….
(Rob from SC)
June 28th, 2012
7:25 pm
2 runs so far in the first against Teheran
jeffrey d
June 28th, 2012
7:26 pm
I was just saying, “You know who’d be great for hitting cleanup? Brian McCann.”
phil
June 28th, 2012
7:26 pm
JJ is no Bauer…
ChattTownBrian
June 28th, 2012
7:26 pm
Bauer looks to have some Pence awkwardness in him along with the Lincecum thing going.
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
7:26 pm
Teheran has given up 3 hits in the first inning, including a ground rule double to Jack Cust and a 2 run single to Russell Branyan.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 28th, 2012
7:26 pm
Why did Bauer receive the call off the outside portion of the play while Jurrjens failed to receive that call? That is frustrating.
keylargo
June 28th, 2012
7:27 pm
First and third, two outs, bottom of the 11th. Rockies up 3 – 2 on Scuturo. Rockies wihn
BFChris27
June 28th, 2012
7:27 pm
Rockies WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TNScott
June 28th, 2012
7:27 pm
Time to move Hoss to the 4 spot and Freddie to the 5 spot.
phil
June 28th, 2012
7:27 pm
Does Trevor do back flips too?
The A Bomb
June 28th, 2012
7:27 pm
RBI SINGLE BY SCUTARO
COLORADO 11 WASHINGTON 10 FINAL
gene garbage
June 28th, 2012
7:27 pm
a lot of people are talking about Uggla and his struggles…i’m thinking B-Mac is more worrisome..
.234? really?
ncbravesfan90
June 28th, 2012
7:28 pm
Colorado just beat Washington 11-10
ncbravesfan90
June 28th, 2012
7:28 pm
Colorado just beat Washington 11-10
Tomahawk Mafia
June 28th, 2012
7:28 pm
There really is no good reason these days for Brian McCann to hit cleanup.
phil
June 28th, 2012
7:28 pm
The Nats win so we can be dominated by the rook pitcher…
David O'Brien
June 28th, 2012
7:28 pm
Rockies over Nats in 11.
ChattTownBrian
June 28th, 2012
7:29 pm
JJ looks like he has his groove back. I love it! He was always my favorite over Hanson and some others. Please just keep it up bud
jeffrey d
June 28th, 2012
7:29 pm
Does Trevor do back flips too?
Around the basepaths
bravesgrl4life
June 28th, 2012
7:29 pm
Thank you, Rockies!!!
ncbravesfan90
June 28th, 2012
7:30 pm
That double is on the blue..JJ had him struck out on the third pitch of the at bat.
phil
June 28th, 2012
7:30 pm
Come on, Bourn….
(Rob from SC)
June 28th, 2012
7:30 pm
Against Teheran
1B, LINE OUT, K, 2B, 1B, HBP, FLYOUT
HITS WERE BY THREE FORMER BIG LEAGUERS
David O'Brien
June 28th, 2012
7:30 pm
Dbacks hot-hitting Kubel double off base of CF wall to start 2nd
The A Bomb
June 28th, 2012
7:30 pm
Bauer will do anything his energy drinks dictate him to do.
Actually in high school, the starting staff was Bauer and Mike Montgomery (Kansas City -AAA).
Only thing I can think of like that is one that never really pitched together — Fried and Giolito at Harvard-Westlake out here in SoCal — both first-rounders this year.
ChattTownBrian
June 28th, 2012
7:30 pm
That’s alright. Don’t get rattled.
gene garbage
June 28th, 2012
7:30 pm
hit a good pitch
Tomahawk Mafia
June 28th, 2012
7:31 pm
What is the deal with this umpire, Jurrjens third pitch was on the corner. That is three pitches Jurrjens has failed to receive a strike call that touched the corner of the plate.
Hmmmm
June 28th, 2012
7:31 pm
humidor must still be broken (team run totals, Nats/Rox: 2/4 ; 12/5 ; 11/5 ; 10/11)
phil
June 28th, 2012
7:31 pm
Teheran is vastly overrated…
Maybe.
ChattTownBrian
June 28th, 2012
7:32 pm
Very picky ump
gene garbage
June 28th, 2012
7:32 pm
man, that looks like a strike
keylargo
June 28th, 2012
7:32 pm
This may be the narrowist strike zone I’ve seen this year.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 28th, 2012
7:33 pm
What does Jurrjens have to do to get a ball on the corner called? That is ridiculous.
gene garbage
June 28th, 2012
7:33 pm
unintentional intentional walk?
phil
June 28th, 2012
7:33 pm
Uh oh…
Jay Dubu
June 28th, 2012
7:34 pm
Haven’t seen the ABs, so I don’t know how they actually went…but just following the game on Gameday, it appears that Heyward is back to pulling everything to the right side again. Small sample size I know, but I just hate to see it developing into a trend.
cabravesfan
June 28th, 2012
7:35 pm
NICE!!!!
(Rob from SC)
June 28th, 2012
7:35 pm
5 TOOLS BABY
The A Bomb
June 28th, 2012
7:35 pm
HEYWARD SUCKS! WAYWARD! HURTWARD!
gene garbage
June 28th, 2012
7:35 pm
wow, McCann actually held on…is that a first?
bravesgrl4life
June 28th, 2012
7:35 pm
Another great play by Heyward!!!
MIBravesFan
June 28th, 2012
7:35 pm
WTG, JHey and BMac!!!!
TNScott
June 28th, 2012
7:35 pm
J-HEY!!!!
Brava
June 28th, 2012
7:35 pm
Hell yeah!!! Jason and Mac!!!!!
Sopheee
June 28th, 2012
7:35 pm
Hot damn, Jason.
ncbravesfan90
June 28th, 2012
7:35 pm
Do it all J-Hey, do it all!!!
phil
June 28th, 2012
7:35 pm
Great play…..could feel it coming! Great job, jason!
Fat Kubel gunned down…
TNScott
June 28th, 2012
7:36 pm
Nice tag, Mac!!!
(Rob from SC)
June 28th, 2012
7:36 pm
Heyward is playing with confidence
ChattTownBrian
June 28th, 2012
7:36 pm
Wow!
Tomahawk Mafia
June 28th, 2012
7:37 pm
Jason Heyward has become an elite defensive right fielder this season. He has always had the range and the ability to throw runners out at the plate, but he has honed his accuracy and now he is deadly.
phil
June 28th, 2012
7:37 pm
The A Bomb
June 28th, 2012
7:35 pm
HEYWARD SUCKS! WAYWARD! HURTWARD!
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what happened to the idiot from sacramento, chris?
Waffle House or Bust
June 28th, 2012
7:37 pm
Funny how all the Heyward haters hide when he is doing good.
The A Bomb
June 28th, 2012
7:37 pm
Here come the BACKTRACKERS……A month ago he should have retired.
Totally bipolar.
Bat Masterson
June 28th, 2012
7:37 pm
How about that throw, catch and tag
ACE
June 28th, 2012
7:38 pm
DOB, I am sure someone with all of your knowledge could come up with better questions than the usual will you keep running him out there? You have to tip your cap. Most important of all believe the back of the bubble gum card.
Brava
June 28th, 2012
7:38 pm
Chipper!!!!
(Rob from SC)
June 28th, 2012
7:38 pm
Hit Chipper Cleanup, Freddie 5, Uggs than Mac
MIBravesFan
June 28th, 2012
7:38 pm
Nice hit, Chipper!
gene garbage
June 28th, 2012
7:38 pm
confidence..it’s all about the confidence.
phil
June 28th, 2012
7:38 pm
Chipper punishes agility boy…..
TNScott
June 28th, 2012
7:38 pm
HOSS, BABY!!!
VaBravesFan
June 28th, 2012
7:39 pm
I wanna see the throw from Heyward, it should be a highlight in gameday….
phil
June 28th, 2012
7:39 pm
And in strides twitchy Dan…..sigh.
(Rob from SC)
June 28th, 2012
7:40 pm
Uggla can’t touch a changeup right now
phil
June 28th, 2012
7:40 pm
I didn’t think dan could be worse this june than last but he is….
Rick
June 28th, 2012
7:41 pm
That would have been a ball if Jurrjens were pitching.
TNScott
June 28th, 2012
7:41 pm
Phil- That guy is in Gwinnett still waiting for Jason to be sent down.
gene garbage
June 28th, 2012
7:42 pm
boy, MLB has got to do something about the guys in blue..how about that 3rd strike call last night on CHipper
Brava
June 28th, 2012
7:42 pm
Freddie!!!
MIBravesFan
June 28th, 2012
7:42 pm
Nice double, Freddie!!
TNScott
June 28th, 2012
7:42 pm
Freddie!!!
(Rob from SC)
June 28th, 2012
7:42 pm
Mac and Uggla are as close to automatic outs as you can get right now
Bravefaninok
June 28th, 2012
7:42 pm
Fab5 !!!
phil
June 28th, 2012
7:43 pm
Chipper will need a week off after that long run…
nolie
June 28th, 2012
7:43 pm
I guess Freddie’s eyes are doing better lately
bravesgrl4life
June 28th, 2012
7:44 pm
Rick, you are right. This ump is heavily favoring Trevor tonight so far.
phil
June 28th, 2012
7:44 pm
Simmons is awful…
nolie
June 28th, 2012
7:44 pm
Simmons didn’t get it done there
gene garbage
June 28th, 2012
7:44 pm
clear the pitchers spot..that’s ok.
nolie
June 28th, 2012
7:45 pm
the pitch to Chipper was a strike according to the grid
phil
June 28th, 2012
7:45 pm
Booooo!!!
nolie
June 28th, 2012
7:45 pm
I hate it when that happens…
gene garbage
June 28th, 2012
7:46 pm
JJ needs to drill him! welcome to the bigs, baby..
won’t happen, i know, it’s the Braves..we don’t do that kind of stuff….dang it!
David O'Brien
June 28th, 2012
7:46 pm
Braves fail to score after that 2nd and 3rd w/ 1 out sicheeation. Simmons 5-3 and JJ K.
David O'Brien
June 28th, 2012
7:47 pm
Heyward has made two of those terrific, just about perfect throws to nail guys at home this month. Dude is having the finest all-around month of his young career, which is saying something considering the couple of months he had early in his rookie year.
nolie
June 28th, 2012
7:47 pm
Send Simmons down, Tyler woulda got that run home
jeffrey d
June 28th, 2012
7:48 pm
Send Simmons down, Tyler woulda got that run home
Tyler would’ve gotten Uggla home
nolie
June 28th, 2012
7:48 pm
Javy!!!
bravesgrl4life
June 28th, 2012
7:49 pm
Javy, sigh
gene garbage
June 28th, 2012
7:49 pm
sorry, but Javy was a roid rage success story..
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 28th, 2012
7:50 pm
Wow—just watch Heyward’s throw/BMac’s tag. That was a GREAT play. Unbelievable throw. Very nice tag by BMac, too—Kubel needs to watch those spikes, though…
David O'Brien
June 28th, 2012
7:50 pm
Moylan’s pitching in his first game Saturday in Gulf Coast League. Big step.
DZ
June 28th, 2012
7:50 pm
Fredi needs to sit Uggla for one game. He has played every inning of every game.
He has 5 K’s in the last 8 at bats. 0 RBI since 6/9.
nolie
June 28th, 2012
7:50 pm
bull crap.
usnavyvolfaninva
June 28th, 2012
7:51 pm
nolie
June 28th, 2012
7:51 pm
guy still has the biceps..
phil
June 28th, 2012
7:51 pm
Javy is still quite large!
Nice when the team asst trainer is about 40 pounds overweight…
gene garbage
June 28th, 2012
7:52 pm
“i give him the seegnal, he recieved the seegnal, i am the hero of the game”..love that quote by Javy!
bravesgrl4life
June 28th, 2012
7:52 pm
JJ, you gotta learn to get that third out when you get two pretty easy ones.
Costanza
June 28th, 2012
7:53 pm
shut the hell up gene like you know he did roids what a true braves fan you are talkin crap about one of our best catchers in the franchise, probably the best
gene garbage
June 28th, 2012
7:53 pm
where was that?!?
Rick
June 28th, 2012
7:53 pm
DZ, Uggla has played every game but not every inning.
Brava
June 28th, 2012
7:53 pm
This ump is really sqeezing JJ. Wow.
nolie
June 28th, 2012
7:54 pm
c’mon jj
gene garbage
June 28th, 2012
7:54 pm
he did, i know.
nolie
June 28th, 2012
7:56 pm
ya, you know….
Bat Masterson
June 28th, 2012
7:56 pm
I thought Javy said, years ago, he did steroids
phil
June 28th, 2012
7:56 pm
Frankly Gene, who really cares….
gene garbage
June 28th, 2012
7:56 pm
“i only got three words for this, ‘it don’t get no better’”…-Otis, my man, Nixon…also one of my fav’s.
ChattTownBrian
June 28th, 2012
7:57 pm
Always liked Javy Lopez.
Tight zone has JJ a little edgy, but he’s fighting through nicely.
David O'Brien
June 28th, 2012
7:57 pm
Mostly 88-89 on Jurrjens fastball tonight, down a tick from Boston where he was 89-91. That’s assuming the guns in both ballparks are accurate.
Capt.Mudd
June 28th, 2012
7:57 pm
Just got it on and finally sitting down….what? Rook Pitcher? We got 0…..surprise, surprise……and, Uggla? I better not ask.
bravesgrl4life
June 28th, 2012
7:58 pm
Me, too, CTB.
gene garbage
June 28th, 2012
7:58 pm
i feel a run coming up right here.
gene garbage
June 28th, 2012
7:59 pm
or maybe it’s just ‘the’ runs…i don’t know..
(Rob from SC)
June 28th, 2012
7:59 pm
where did that miss
cricket
June 28th, 2012
8:00 pm
braves’ streak of facing winning clubs broken only because they beat ARI twice and picks back up tomorrow
(Rob from SC)
June 28th, 2012
8:01 pm
Heyward is scary to face…
Tomahawk Mafia
June 28th, 2012
8:01 pm
Nice to see Bourn work a walk. I really think that is one element of his game that needs improvement.
gene garbage
June 28th, 2012
8:02 pm
can’t believe Gipson missed his sons graduation..it’s one game dude..seriously.
(Rob from SC)
June 28th, 2012
8:02 pm
Heyward is reaching the past three at bats….
nolie
June 28th, 2012
8:02 pm
send Heywad down now!!!!
gene garbage
June 28th, 2012
8:02 pm
think i heard the ‘f’ word there Jason..:)
TBbravesfan
June 28th, 2012
8:03 pm
one of them nights.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 28th, 2012
8:03 pm
That was no good for Heyward. Two groundouts to the right side of the infield is reminiscent of the bad Heyward.
bravesgrl4life
June 28th, 2012
8:04 pm
Time for Mac to step it up here. I hate seeing him struggle so, but this would be the perfect opportunity to end that slump.
Jay Dubu
June 28th, 2012
8:04 pm
Poof!!! The Prince is turning back into a frog! Saw it last night when he pulled pitches to the right side.
Keep churning Heyward, and break out of this 4 AB slump.
Brava
June 28th, 2012
8:05 pm
BMac!!!!!!!!
MIBravesFan
June 28th, 2012
8:05 pm
BMAC!!!!!!
gene garbage
June 28th, 2012
8:05 pm
there’s that run i was feeling..
bravesgrl4life
June 28th, 2012
8:05 pm
Way to go BMac!!!
TNScott
June 28th, 2012
8:06 pm
Nice hit, B-Mac!!!
Bravefaninok
June 28th, 2012
8:06 pm
WTG B-Mac!!!!
TBbravesfan
June 28th, 2012
8:06 pm
mac Mac mac
nolie
June 28th, 2012
8:06 pm
fat toad with another meaningless ribbie…
Jay Dubu
June 28th, 2012
8:06 pm
Jason learned to call his friend “Buck” from Mac. Can’t let your frustration show like that. The little kiddies look up to you…and some of the big, old, kiddies on this blog.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 28th, 2012
8:06 pm
Yay, BMac!!!
Sopheee
June 28th, 2012
8:06 pm
Ahh ‘teen looked gimpy there.
bravesgrl4life
June 28th, 2012
8:06 pm
Heyward > Upton
brian
June 28th, 2012
8:06 pm
could it be a RBI double by McCann? Sweet
BFChris27
June 28th, 2012
8:07 pm
Ugh. My cable box just went on fritz. Can’t wait to switch to Satellite.
brian
June 28th, 2012
8:07 pm
agree Heyward > Upton
TBbravesfan
June 28th, 2012
8:08 pm
go ahead and light this boy up chipper
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 28th, 2012
8:08 pm
Sopheee—
Yeah—that was odd…maybe it’s the heat…?
Tomahawk Mafia
June 28th, 2012
8:08 pm
I would love to see more of that production from McCann.
The A Bomb
June 28th, 2012
8:08 pm
I’m taking note of all the Heyward…sorry…Wayward posts — just so I can ID the idiots around here who know ZERO about baseball.
Capt.Mudd
June 28th, 2012
8:08 pm
Uggla HR I am callig it
David O'Brien
June 28th, 2012
8:08 pm
3rd walk this inning off the rookie Bauer
gene garbage
June 28th, 2012
8:08 pm
this guys hurting..all those pre-game antics
Tomahawk Mafia
June 28th, 2012
8:09 pm
I am really tired of seeing Bauer get calls on the corner while Jurrjens gets nothing.
The A Bomb
June 28th, 2012
8:10 pm
Not antics — a respected and proven long-toss program.
bravesgrl4life
June 28th, 2012
8:11 pm
Well, one way to get on base.
The A Bomb
June 28th, 2012
8:11 pm
But this is Bauer — he has moments like this.
Capt.Mudd
June 28th, 2012
8:11 pm
He was getting ready to send it and there you go–he gets wacked
brian
June 28th, 2012
8:11 pm
missed the lineup posted earlier – didn’t realize that Uggla was dropped this far in the order.
Hit in the .230s and get dropped in the order – works for me
TBbravesfan
June 28th, 2012
8:12 pm
grand slammmm maybe
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 28th, 2012
8:12 pm
This pitcher takes too long to pitch…dear lord…
Jay Dubu
June 28th, 2012
8:12 pm
Freddy is ready to break this game open!
Brava
June 28th, 2012
8:12 pm
Dang it.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 28th, 2012
8:12 pm
Pooey…
nolie
June 28th, 2012
8:12 pm
Send Freeman down too…
Capt.Mudd
June 28th, 2012
8:12 pm
That Baurer’s pitch looks like a Lincecum special
bravesgrl4life
June 28th, 2012
8:13 pm
Dang, FF.
TBbravesfan
June 28th, 2012
8:13 pm
grand slammmm maybe not.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 28th, 2012
8:14 pm
The Braves really could have used another run after loading the bases.
Capt.Mudd
June 28th, 2012
8:14 pm
Dan will raise tha average by 35 pts by August 2.
nolie
June 28th, 2012
8:14 pm
I hate it when they miss all those opportunities, often comes back to bite
gene garbage
June 28th, 2012
8:14 pm
i’m also feeling JJ giving up a run too.always happens
Jay Dubu
June 28th, 2012
8:15 pm
Either call grandslam or don’t, but you have to commit one way or the other.
David O'Brien
June 28th, 2012
8:15 pm
61 pitches through 3 innings for Bauer, who walked three and hit Uggla with a pitch in third but got out of inning relatively unscathed when Freeman flied out on 1-0 pitch to leave bases loaded.
gene garbage
June 28th, 2012
8:17 pm
i wasn’t talking about the long toss. i actually believe in that and have my team do it. it’s all the other stuff i was talking about
Jay Dubu
June 28th, 2012
8:17 pm
Buckle down JJ, and get a DP here.
MIBravesFan
June 28th, 2012
8:19 pm
Good job with the throw, BMac!!
The A Bomb
June 28th, 2012
8:19 pm
McCann?
gene garbage
June 28th, 2012
8:19 pm
McCann having himself a night
Sopheee
June 28th, 2012
8:19 pm
Mactastic
nolie
June 28th, 2012
8:19 pm
fat toad with a meaningless throw out….
(Rob from SC)
June 28th, 2012
8:19 pm
4 runs in 3.2 innings for Teheran
Capt.Mudd
June 28th, 2012
8:19 pm
@McFann…..What about that….a Mac beauty
TNScott
June 28th, 2012
8:19 pm
Nice throw, B-Mac!!!!
Bat Masterson
June 28th, 2012
8:20 pm
Go ahead, Heap
Bravefaninok
June 28th, 2012
8:20 pm
Mac is throwing very well of late.
nolie
June 28th, 2012
8:20 pm
JJ not as sharp tonight as against Boston
MIBravesFan
June 28th, 2012
8:20 pm
What a reachback catch!
BFChris27
June 28th, 2012
8:21 pm
Simmons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TNScott
June 28th, 2012
8:21 pm
Andy with another dandy!!!
Capt.Mudd
June 28th, 2012
8:21 pm
Wow…..he’ fresh….exciting…..so exciting indeed
Brava
June 28th, 2012
8:21 pm
Holy cow! Simmons.
bravesgrl4life
June 28th, 2012
8:21 pm
Mac!
Simba!
Sopheee
June 28th, 2012
8:22 pm
Holy fudge the way his foot caught in the grass scared the crap out of me.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 28th, 2012
8:22 pm
GREAT throw, BMac!!
And good catch by Simba…
Bat Masterson
June 28th, 2012
8:22 pm
Where is Jeff321 to give Chipper and Heap some love………..
Jimmy
June 28th, 2012
8:22 pm
Don’t normally do ingame, but an observation.
My wife and I are watching the game, and I say “He can’t do that”.
She says “what?” as McCann smacks the ball to the wall.
After Prado scores, I said “You can’t have a rookie out there shaking off signs from his catcher.”
Bauer shook off two signs before the pitch to Brian. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoyed the outcome, but how can someone in their debut, ignore the advice of a seasoned ML catcher.
Never on my team would that happen.
Back to the game.
gene garbage
June 28th, 2012
8:23 pm
i was gonna build with BJ, it’s a shame it didn’t work out..La Jardin.
Sopheee
June 28th, 2012
8:23 pm
cab, did you just see who I just saw?
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 28th, 2012
8:23 pm
CaptMudd—
That was a very good throw!…
Capt.Mudd
June 28th, 2012
8:23 pm
Anyone know where cabravesfan is?
nolie
June 28th, 2012
8:24 pm
rookie or not, it’s his decision what he feels his best chance is
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 28th, 2012
8:24 pm
Sopheee—
Yeah! I saw her, too…
Jay Dubu
June 28th, 2012
8:25 pm
Mac is playing some gold glove catcher tonight!!!
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 28th, 2012
8:25 pm
CaptMudd—
No…maybe she’s busy with work (hopefully)…?…She hasn’t been around as much lately…
gene garbage
June 28th, 2012
8:25 pm
i’m not feeling a run this inning…maybe 2..
Capt.Mudd
June 28th, 2012
8:25 pm
@McFann…..”That was a very good throw!…”
What I especially enjoyed was how quickly he came up and threw…..and it was a top MLB player running!
gene garbage
June 28th, 2012
8:26 pm
‘Behind the Plate’? is that a sequel to ‘Under the Grandstands’, by Seymour Butts?
(Rob from SC)
June 28th, 2012
8:27 pm
Teheran 6 runs allowed, still in the 4th inning.
Brava
June 28th, 2012
8:27 pm
Simmons!!
MIBravesFan
June 28th, 2012
8:27 pm
Nice leadoff double, kid!
bravesgrl4life
June 28th, 2012
8:27 pm
I saw her, too
TNScott
June 28th, 2012
8:27 pm
Nice hit the other way, Andy!!!
MIBravesFan
June 28th, 2012
8:28 pm
Nice bunt, JJ!
Brava
June 28th, 2012
8:29 pm
Good bunt JJ!!
TNScott
June 28th, 2012
8:29 pm
Nice sac, JJ!!!
ncbravesfan90
June 28th, 2012
8:29 pm
Teheran not ready for the big league rotation folks. Just not ready yet.
Jay Dubu
June 28th, 2012
8:30 pm
Simmons has been very good at the plate. This kid swings the bat really well.
bravesgrl4life
June 28th, 2012
8:30 pm
Come on Bourn
Capt.Mudd
June 28th, 2012
8:30 pm
@Jimmy….My guess on that….your question of the ‘brush offs” by Baurer; I assume the manager has given him this priviledge for his first game so he pitches to his comfort level.
(Rob from SC)
June 28th, 2012
8:30 pm
on twitter Keith Law says Bauer is getting squeezed
Bat Masterson
June 28th, 2012
8:30 pm
Who did y’all see? Roman Gal
MIBravesFan
June 28th, 2012
8:31 pm
Good sac fly, Michael!
Brava
June 28th, 2012
8:31 pm
WTG Mikey!
bravesgrl4life
June 28th, 2012
8:31 pm
ABC baseball right there, boys and girls!
TNScott
June 28th, 2012
8:31 pm
Nice sac fly, Michael!!!
keylargo
June 28th, 2012
8:32 pm
It wouldn’t hurt Bauer to shave that minor league beard off.
(Rob from SC)
June 28th, 2012
8:33 pm
three ugly at bats for my man…Talk a walk if their giving it to you
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
8:33 pm
Teheran gets bombed tonight. Yikes. ERA up 4.24 on the year.
Brava
June 28th, 2012
8:33 pm
Keith Law didn’t say anything about JJ getting squeezed because he hates the Braves.
ncbravesfan90
June 28th, 2012
8:34 pm
Teheran’s final line tonight at Gwinnett:
3.2 IP 10 hits 9 runs, all earned 0 walks 4 k’s
Not pretty at all….Era at 4.50 now
Tomahawk Mafia
June 28th, 2012
8:35 pm
One of these days Heyward will stop hitting those weak infield flys. I have disliked his at bats tonight.
Brava
June 28th, 2012
8:36 pm
Yikes. Hate to hear that about Teheran.
(Rob from SC)
June 28th, 2012
8:38 pm
Tomahawk Mafia
He seems in a rush tonight. Heyward is at his best when he works the count
bravesgrl4life
June 28th, 2012
8:40 pm
Yeah, Heyward not having a great night at the plate. Still got a couple of at-bats to shake it off.
David O'Brien
June 28th, 2012
8:42 pm
A perfect fifth for Braves Jurrjens, who’s allowed 4 hits, 1 walk with 0 K’s in 5 scoreless innings, and thrown 74 pitches (48 strikes)
RPollardRealtor
June 28th, 2012
8:42 pm
JJ is looking really good tonight. Locating all his pitches.. Still not where he needs to be at velocity wise but he’s pitching smart. Mixing in offspeed pitches with his 89 mph fastball.
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
8:43 pm
Scranton/WB Bottom of the 4th
Russell Branyan strikes out swinging.
Francisco Cervelli triples (1) on a fly ball to right fielder Felix Pie.
Brandon Laird doubles (19) on a line drive to left fielder Jose Constanza. Francisco Cervelli scores.
Cole Garner singles on a ground ball to left fielder Jose Constanza. Brandon Laird to 3rd.
Ramiro Pena grounds into a force out, shortstop Josh Wilson to second baseman Tyler Pastornicky. Brandon Laird scores. Cole Garner out at 2nd. Ramiro Pena to 1st.
Chris Dickerson singles on a line drive to right fielder Felix Pie. Ramiro Pena to 3rd.
With Corban Joseph batting, Chris Dickerson steals (6) 2nd base.
Corban Joseph doubles (6) on a line drive to right fielder Felix Pie. Ramiro Pena scores. Chris Dickerson scores.
Ronnier Mustelier singles on a line drive to left fielder Jose Constanza. Corban Joseph scores. Ronnier Mustelier advances to 2nd, on fielding error by left fielder Jose Constanza.
Jack Cust homers (17) on a fly ball to center field. Ronnier Mustelier scores.
Pitcher Change: Adam Russell replaces Julio Teheran.
Russell Branyan flies out to right fielder Felix Pie.
phil
June 28th, 2012
8:43 pm
(Rob from SC)
June 28th, 2012
8:27 pm
Teheran 6 runs allowed, still in the 4th inning.
*********
he’s just working on a few things….
MIBravesFan
June 28th, 2012
8:45 pm
Yeah, Martin!
Brava
June 28th, 2012
8:45 pm
Marteen!!!
Sopheee
June 28th, 2012
8:45 pm
Few more hours. Vote for ‘teen ‘teen.
(Rob from SC)
June 28th, 2012
8:46 pm
Even the greatest hitters in the history of the sport had bad nights at the plate
gene garbage
June 28th, 2012
8:46 pm
Brandon Webb
(Rob from SC)
June 28th, 2012
8:46 pm
Kid looks tough on LHH
phil
June 28th, 2012
8:46 pm
Make that nine runs….no worries.
Capt.Mudd
June 28th, 2012
8:47 pm
Chier looks good tonight–nice to see
gene garbage
June 28th, 2012
8:48 pm
should bad hops be considered hits or errors?
RPollardRealtor
June 28th, 2012
8:48 pm
@gene
ya its brandon webb.
bravesgrl4life
June 28th, 2012
8:48 pm
I thought the DBacks had the least amount of errors in the league or something like that.
Capt.Mudd
June 28th, 2012
8:48 pm
I better start looking at my keys–Chipper see above error in my previous post
phil
June 28th, 2012
8:49 pm
Heyward is due to start tanking again….
Won’t be surprised if he does or doesn’t.
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
8:50 pm
Make that nine runs….no worries.
Yeah, that’s just not good. Working on things or not.
keylargo
June 28th, 2012
8:50 pm
The Phillies are making Jim Thome available to American League teams in need of help at designated hitter, two AL executives tell ESPN’s Jayson Stark. Ruben Amaro didn’t confirm that he was shopping the veteran slugger, but said “if there’s a situation out there that benefits both Jim and the Phillies, we’ll try to put something together.”
RPollardRealtor
June 28th, 2012
8:50 pm
@gene,
It’s actually D-Train!!!! 2003
David O'Brien
June 28th, 2012
8:50 pm
Uggla strikes out again with 2 on and less than 2 outs. Yikes.
phil
June 28th, 2012
8:51 pm
Dan is killing us…
gene garbage
June 28th, 2012
8:51 pm
almost time to go cut the grass..has it cooled down enough?
RPollardRealtor
June 28th, 2012
8:52 pm
@gene,
If it just takes a nasty hop then I think it should be a hit, but if the fielder doesn’t follow it all the way through into their glove should be an error.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 28th, 2012
8:52 pm
Uggla strikes out so much the word “strike out” should be changed to “uggla”
ray k.
June 28th, 2012
8:52 pm
Uggla is money.
RPollardRealtor
June 28th, 2012
8:52 pm
Do yal think Freeman’s stance is too far from the plate?
Capt.Mudd
June 28th, 2012
8:53 pm
Man that Uggla is terrible tonight and I am thinking he’s going yard……not!!!
nolie
June 28th, 2012
8:53 pm
8 LOB = BOO!!!
gene garbage
June 28th, 2012
8:53 pm
this is the inning JJ needs to get thru..there’s always one..
phil
June 28th, 2012
8:53 pm
FF is killing us…
Tomahawk Mafia
June 28th, 2012
8:54 pm
Gene Garbage
Brandon Webb won the 2006 NL Cy Young Award but he never one the Rookie of the Year Award.
Capt.Mudd
June 28th, 2012
8:54 pm
Go ahead Dan……change it———”Metta World K”
RPollardRealtor
June 28th, 2012
8:55 pm
Danny boy doesnt strike out as much as Kelesko did!
phil
June 28th, 2012
8:55 pm
Getting on base is all that matters so LOB is actually a badge of honor….
ray k.
June 28th, 2012
8:55 pm
If we had bases loaded, bottom of the ninth, down by 3 in the NLCS, I’d send a 53 year old Julio Franco to the plate before Dan Uggla.
RPollardRealtor
June 28th, 2012
8:55 pm
Lets go JJ get through this inning and give it to the Pen!
(Rob from SC)
June 28th, 2012
8:56 pm
JJ missing out over the plate
keylargo
June 28th, 2012
8:56 pm
FF is killing us…
McFuggla is more like it.
nolie
June 28th, 2012
8:56 pm
bad feeling about the 6th??
Tomahawk Mafia
June 28th, 2012
8:57 pm
Yeah, the 6th inning will be a test for Jurrjens. Allowing a leadoff hit to Bloomquist did him no good.
phil
June 28th, 2012
8:58 pm
ray k.
June 28th, 2012
8:55 pm
If we had bases loaded, bottom of the ninth, down by 3 in the NLCS, I’d send a 53 year old Julio Franco to the plate before Dan Uggla.
*********
or a 450 pound eric hinske…
SMOLTZ 29
June 28th, 2012
8:58 pm
Struggla is now a scintilating 3 for his last 39 AB! Time to take a seat this weekend and watch! MERCY
The A Bomb
June 28th, 2012
8:58 pm
Maybe Uggla’s waiting for his buddy Strasburg. Honestly tomorrow he should be off.
Capt.Mudd
June 28th, 2012
8:59 pm
Why are these idiots talking about injury?
Powderfinger
June 28th, 2012
8:59 pm
Just got home, and it’s good to see us going for the sweep. Just need to get Uggs on track…
Joe 12-Pack
June 28th, 2012
8:59 pm
Was Bauer on a pitch limit?
phil
June 28th, 2012
8:59 pm
More whining and excuses about the finger…..
Enough already.
RPollardRealtor
June 28th, 2012
8:59 pm
dang, hit and run got them out of the DP
gene garbage
June 28th, 2012
9:00 pm
McCann was just asking him if he wants to go to the Cheetah after the game..ticket stub, anyone?
phil
June 28th, 2012
9:01 pm
Bauer was probably exhausted from his foolish 90 minute “wake the muscles” Fonda routine before the game….
The A Bomb
June 28th, 2012
9:02 pm
First pout.
nolie
June 28th, 2012
9:02 pm
getting tense
phil
June 28th, 2012
9:02 pm
Bring in someone….JJ is done.
ray k.
June 28th, 2012
9:02 pm
The back of Uggla’s baseball card should read:
Dan Uggla 2B Atlanta Braves
Uggla’s bench press: 325 for 6 reps
Uggla’s squat: 400 for 8 reps
Uggla’s average with RISP: LOL
nolie
June 28th, 2012
9:03 pm
haters…..
The A Bomb
June 28th, 2012
9:04 pm
phil — NOT foolish, established and proven program. Jaeger throwing program out of SoCal. It makes sense. I credit Bauer for his dedication to his body. We’ll see how healthy he stays throughout his career.
phil
June 28th, 2012
9:04 pm
As i was saying…
ncbravesfan90
June 28th, 2012
9:04 pm
Can’t walk people..that’s the main thing
bravesgrl4life
June 28th, 2012
9:04 pm
Fudge
Capt.Mudd
June 28th, 2012
9:04 pm
Nolieee……you were/are right about the 6th
gene garbage
June 28th, 2012
9:04 pm
just had a feeling it was going to go like this in the 6th
Powderfinger
June 28th, 2012
9:05 pm
Good grief. I feel like the ultimate jinx…
nolie
June 28th, 2012
9:05 pm
BALLGAME!!!
Tomahawk Mafia
June 28th, 2012
9:05 pm
I would have said that Jurrjens needed to be lifted before facing Kubel, but Venters sucks. The Braves offense is to blame for this tied game though.
David O'Brien
June 28th, 2012
9:06 pm
Jurrjens gave up a leadoff single to Bloomquist and walked Upton before Kubel doubled in 2 runs, has NL-leading 26 RBIs in June
phil
June 28th, 2012
9:06 pm
It’s foolish in 98 degree georgia heat….
It’s stupid too.
He looks like a bufoon doing it as well. TJ regardless. Just wait.
Capt.Mudd
June 28th, 2012
9:06 pm
We stranded a few too many vs. the Rookie
Bravefaninok
June 28th, 2012
9:06 pm
JJ has to hold them here!
TNScott
June 28th, 2012
9:06 pm
Don’t like the Monterro matchup.
The A Bomb
June 28th, 2012
9:07 pm
Bauer signed a four-year major-league deal guaranteeing him $4.45 million with a signing bonus of $3.4 million.
Very foolish throwing program, indeed.
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
9:07 pm
Good outing from Jair. I still think we need a starter though….
Tomahawk Mafia
June 28th, 2012
9:07 pm
Jurrjens failing to get calls on the corners is ridiculous.
nolie
June 28th, 2012
9:07 pm
he’ll be lucky to get outta this
space monkey
June 28th, 2012
9:07 pm
That’s the problem with pitchers who pitch to contact. Eventually, the balls will find a hole or drop deep in the outfield.
gene garbage
June 28th, 2012
9:08 pm
got my gf dancing on the table right now, that Cheetah talk got her fired up..she almost hit her head on the ceiling fan though..man, that was funny.
ncbravesfan90
June 28th, 2012
9:08 pm
And Frank Wren hurries and gets his trading phone busy again….
(Rob from SC)
June 28th, 2012
9:08 pm
I went to do the dishes…wth happened
Capt.Mudd
June 28th, 2012
9:08 pm
Moneyball Fredi….ok
Joe 12-Pack
June 28th, 2012
9:08 pm
Jair is done
gene garbage
June 28th, 2012
9:08 pm
good outing by JJ.
phil
June 28th, 2012
9:08 pm
Now that nolie called BALLGAME, he yanks him, and after yet another Mac passed ball….
ACE
June 28th, 2012
9:08 pm
ray k. you got to believe the back of the bubble gum card.
monty
June 28th, 2012
9:09 pm
FG a little too late. JJ should have never faced the LH, why have guys up in the pen if you don’t plan on using them?
Capt.Mudd
June 28th, 2012
9:09 pm
@Rob….hopefully your dishes ar clean….cause th one at The Ted is covered in ’snake oil.’
gcs
June 28th, 2012
9:09 pm
Not a good outing, not a bad one either
Tomahawk Mafia
June 28th, 2012
9:09 pm
Jurrjens threw two pitches that nicked the corner to Montero and should have been called strikes. Mac looked so lazy on that wild pitch. No effort at all to keep it in front of him.
nolie
June 28th, 2012
9:09 pm
why would you waste your money buying bubble gum with all the stat sites available????
Bat Masterson
June 28th, 2012
9:10 pm
We Was Robbed
Bravefaninok
June 28th, 2012
9:10 pm
Bring on the DURBINATOR!!!
Joe 12-Pack
June 28th, 2012
9:10 pm
that was a wild pitch, not a pass ball
phil
June 28th, 2012
9:10 pm
Durbin is due to suck….
(Rob from SC)
June 28th, 2012
9:10 pm
If Teheran doesn’t get right fast, nobody will want him
McCapt.Mudd
June 28th, 2012
9:10 pm
Sit on it Phil
Hmmmm
June 28th, 2012
9:11 pm
ho hum, if only this ump knew where the strikezone was and didn’t make up his own
Tomahawk Mafia
June 28th, 2012
9:11 pm
I have a feeling that the go-ahead inherited runner will score. The Braves need to have better at bats with runners on base.
ray k.
June 28th, 2012
9:11 pm
Do they even still produce baseball cards? Is Topps still in business?
Fleer?
monty
June 28th, 2012
9:11 pm
Whats that about 11-12 scoreless innings for JJ out of 13-14 last 2 appearances?
The A Bomb
June 28th, 2012
9:11 pm
And BTW phil — one last add BAUER: Where he grew up? It gets to 100 out here regularly.
May look foolish, but at 21 he’s already earned more than you and I have combined probably — with more to come.
We’ll see how the program works as he goes through his career. But he’s smart as a whip. Left high school a year early a la Harper but he qualified because of AP classes, not what Harper did going to a JC.
phil
June 28th, 2012
9:12 pm
In phil’s book, it was a passed ball…
ACE
June 28th, 2012
9:12 pm
When is Fredi going to give Uggla the day off to clear his hear?
brian
June 28th, 2012
9:13 pm
jurrens did not pitch badly tonight but could not get through the 6th. Get Greinke
cabravesfan
June 28th, 2012
9:13 pm
Hey all- we were catching up…
Sopheee- Yes I saw our friend with Javy
(No, Bat, that is not Roman Gal)
Venice Jim
June 28th, 2012
9:13 pm
Well done, CHAD!!!
BFChris27
June 28th, 2012
9:13 pm
Durbin
Bravefaninok
June 28th, 2012
9:13 pm
whewwwwwwww!! wtg Durbinator!!!
Tomahawk Mafia
June 28th, 2012
9:13 pm
Trouble brewing for Durbin.
Powderfinger
June 28th, 2012
9:13 pm
Based on 2 performances, I’m willing to stick with JJ for now. But I would like another starter via trade or something. Before someone calls me out, I’m willing to admit that this contradicts my feelings last weekend. Drum roll please, I believe I was wrong…
Brava
June 28th, 2012
9:13 pm
Durbinator.
nolie
June 28th, 2012
9:13 pm
Durbin!!! yeah, I know, I got no pride….
Capt.Mudd
June 28th, 2012
9:14 pm
@Phil…..just messin wiff ya!
gene garbage
June 28th, 2012
9:14 pm
evidently, he was looking for something else
Jay Dubu
June 28th, 2012
9:14 pm
JJ has kept the team in the game. Bullpen is well rested, and get a chance to get some time on the field tonight.
Braves can’t continue to leave “ducks on the pond” as Chipper would say.
brian
June 28th, 2012
9:14 pm
sophee- Marshall to the Suns, Hensnon to the bucks, and Zeller to Dallas
Efrim
June 28th, 2012
9:14 pm
If Teheran doesn’t get right fast, nobody will want him
Maybe that’s a good thing, Rob.
ACE
June 28th, 2012
9:14 pm
Not sure Ray, just another of Fredi’s canned answers. When someone has been going bad for a month you just have to believe the back of the bubble gum card.
phil
June 28th, 2012
9:15 pm
No he hasn’t, A Bomb….not even close. Not yet.
Good for him. He’ll do well perhaps….but he’ll exhaust himself along the way with all that crap. Wake up the muscles….good grief.
MFin04
June 28th, 2012
9:15 pm
What happened to Chad Durbin? Someone test him for steroids or something. This can’t be the same guy from earlier this year, can it?
David O'Brien
June 28th, 2012
9:15 pm
Jurrjens: 5-2/3 innings, 6 hits, 2 runs, 3 walks, 0 K’s, 59 strikes in 95 pitches
brian
June 28th, 2012
9:15 pm
Braves cannot keep leavng ducks on the pond
Capt.Mudd
June 28th, 2012
9:16 pm
Solid job by JJ…..but he’s got to get better or he’s ‘on the market?’
Bat Masterson
June 28th, 2012
9:16 pm
The make Bieber cards and baseball players by them. Sign of the end times
phoenix
June 28th, 2012
9:16 pm
Just checked in…what have I missed? Impact Player Dan Uggla, 0-2, with 2 strikeouts. All-Star!
phil
June 28th, 2012
9:16 pm
Durbin’s luck continues to hold….
phil
June 28th, 2012
9:17 pm
Poor ole useless Hack Wilson….
MFin04
June 28th, 2012
9:18 pm
Would you rather have Durbin hit or Jack Wilson? Honest question?
ACE
June 28th, 2012
9:18 pm
Along with tracking who posts the most they should track the amount of times Fredi says his usual post game answers to the usual questions. Got to keep running him out there, Got to tip you cap. You got to believe the back of the bubble gum card. There won’t be any changes to the coaching staff. Wait a minute what happened to Larry Parrish.
gene garbage
June 28th, 2012
9:18 pm
that was quick
nolie
June 28th, 2012
9:18 pm
that were quick
bravesgrl4life
June 28th, 2012
9:18 pm
Well, we made that easy for them
Capt.Mudd
June 28th, 2012
9:18 pm
OK—What about the 7th Nolieee?
MFin04
June 28th, 2012
9:18 pm
Team LOB 8, 0-5 runners in scoring position.
Jay Dubu
June 28th, 2012
9:19 pm
Heyward about to extend the hitting streak, and put some run(s) on the scoreboard.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 28th, 2012
9:20 pm
I hope Medlen pitches well because the Braves offense is reaching the portion of the game where they struggle so badly.
phil
June 28th, 2012
9:21 pm
105 tomorrow and 106 saturday…..103 sunday.
Good grief. Haven’t seen numbers like that in middle ga that i recall in 32 years….
Good running weather!
The A Bomb
June 28th, 2012
9:22 pm
Why do we have a starter coming in to pitch in the 7th inning?
(Rob from SC)
June 28th, 2012
9:23 pm
Serious question…Why is Medlen not in the rotation?
phil
June 28th, 2012
9:24 pm
Medlen is no longer stretched out…
truth5
June 28th, 2012
9:25 pm
Chipper may not be the best defensive third baseman of all time, but he has solid defense even at 40 years old. His arm has been underrated his whole career.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 28th, 2012
9:25 pm
You OK, BMac?…
Stupid heat…
Jake W.
June 28th, 2012
9:25 pm
Serious question…Why is Medlen not in the rotation?
Because the Venters of new is in the bullpen.
MIBravesFan
June 28th, 2012
9:26 pm
Good inning, Kris!
DS1
June 28th, 2012
9:26 pm
Serious answer: Because he is needed more in the bullpen right now.
TNScott
June 28th, 2012
9:26 pm
Nice inning, Kris!
phil
June 28th, 2012
9:26 pm
I hope that poor idiot on TV wasn’t running around on the ole wife…..
Sopheee
June 28th, 2012
9:26 pm
brian – I saw and am especially happy for Kendall and Tyler. Hope they do well.
ACE
June 28th, 2012
9:26 pm
How many more bad starts by Minor or Delgado before Medlen is put in the rotation. Just keep running them out there.
nolie
June 28th, 2012
9:26 pm
yeah, good arm, decent hands, poor range
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 28th, 2012
9:27 pm
Fredi said he was gonna rest BMac either Friday or Sunday. I think Sunday would be the better day since the game is during the hottest part of the day…
Bat Masterson
June 28th, 2012
9:27 pm
Medlen is no longer stretched out…
Rack him
gene garbage
June 28th, 2012
9:27 pm
rather have Medlen for 2 or 3 innings, or 6 or 7?
N Nine
June 28th, 2012
9:28 pm
Put MEDS back where he belongs.
TNScott
June 28th, 2012
9:28 pm
Phil- You’re probably right. The next two games will be with the bad end of the rotation.
The A Bomb
June 28th, 2012
9:28 pm
Sunday would be better for Mac because Braves are facing a lefty as well — Gonzalez.
MFin04
June 28th, 2012
9:28 pm
So Chipper Jones, the old and crippled, somehow manages to get his average back close to .300, the guy never ceases to amaze me. Just when you think he should be turned to glue, he starts hitting again. Guy could probably DH in the AL until he is 50 if he could get a pinch runner like softball.
phil
June 28th, 2012
9:28 pm
No way Mac can play more than one in three in this heat wave…..
It’ll kill his pudgy lil butt…..
Bat Masterson
June 28th, 2012
9:29 pm
cab_
thanks
Bobby's Cox
June 28th, 2012
9:29 pm
Can’t have Medlen starting without adding another reliever. I think when Moylan’s ready they do the switch with Meds and send Minor down.
DS1
June 28th, 2012
9:29 pm
gene garbage
You say that now, but wait until C-Mart or Varvaro gives up the lead and we lose a game due to NOT having Medlen in the pen.
ACE
June 28th, 2012
9:29 pm
Maybe they wouldn’t need the bull pen so much if Medlen was in the rotation. Fredi said the pitchers would let him know when they are ready.
Ward
June 28th, 2012
9:31 pm
Hello everyone! Hate to ruin the show, but the Atlanta Hawks pick is coming up round 1 Boston picking now at 21.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 28th, 2012
9:32 pm
A-Bomb—
There’s a lefty going tomorrow, too—Ross Detwiler (sp?)…That’s why Fredi said it was between those two games…
Bobby's Cox
June 28th, 2012
9:32 pm
After being back in the bullpen for the past 2 weeks, they’ll need another reliever because Medlen would get stretched back out in the rotation. You’ll need the reliever just for his starts
phil
June 28th, 2012
9:33 pm
This game is a must win or the season is ruined….
And we’ve already wasted Wilson’s bat….
Bobby's Cox
June 28th, 2012
9:33 pm
Though if Minor or Delgado struggle yet again this weekend, I see them making the move real soon and figuring something out
Jake W.
June 28th, 2012
9:33 pm
rather have Medlen for 2 or 3 innings, or 6 or 7?
I’d rather have Minor pitch like a big leaguer with a brain so this question can stop being asked. None of our starters tend to go deep so that puts a big emphasis on a not so strong pen. Lose every once out of 5 days with a starter or have a pen that blows some of our better starters games more than one in five games.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 28th, 2012
9:33 pm
Better quality of at bat for Heyward, but an out nonetheless.
Ward
June 28th, 2012
9:34 pm
Braves tried Medlen down in triple AAA, and failure, bull – pen suffered, and Braves went on losing skid. Medlen stays in pen.
Mitchell
June 28th, 2012
9:35 pm
Come on Braves.
We need a win. Get yer sh!t together.
(Rob from SC)
June 28th, 2012
9:36 pm
Nasty 3-2 pitch to Heyward. Corbin looks good
gene garbage
June 28th, 2012
9:36 pm
big MO has seemed to change to the other dugout.
phil
June 28th, 2012
9:37 pm
Heyward is done for now….slump time thanks to the recent DOB blog.
gene garbage
June 28th, 2012
9:37 pm
Livan is the answer.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 28th, 2012
9:38 pm
The Braves looked futile against Patrick Corbin.
DS1
June 28th, 2012
9:39 pm
McCann is actually hitting better against lefties this year than righties……. just sayin.
(Rob from SC)
June 28th, 2012
9:39 pm
I’m calling a Heyward walkoff
The A Bomb
June 28th, 2012
9:39 pm
Yeah just realized that McFann. Never know with ol’ Fredo.
N Nine
June 28th, 2012
9:40 pm
Free Meds, no mo watching HR derby Minor please!
ChattTownBrian
June 28th, 2012
9:40 pm
We need this win.
phil
June 28th, 2012
9:41 pm
Would love to see Livan pitching in 106 heat on saturday…..
phil
June 28th, 2012
9:42 pm
Bring back Rev…
ChattTownBrian
June 28th, 2012
9:42 pm
Wait. Simmons is human?
Venice Jim
June 28th, 2012
9:42 pm
Would have been an error on the Rev…
ACE
June 28th, 2012
9:43 pm
A win tonight and the braves would be 6-1 against the dbacks. Any chance we could schedule them more?
phil
June 28th, 2012
9:44 pm
Glad Rev is gone…
ChattTownBrian
June 28th, 2012
9:45 pm
Medlen isn’t the pitcher so many here make him out to be. He’s a solid pitcher, but prone to the really REALLY bad outing.
ray k.
June 28th, 2012
9:45 pm
Jake,
I’m pretty sure Minor has a brain because after he walks his trademark lead off guy in the 5th, he begins sweating, looking over to first, and taking on the look of an insolent child before giving up the inevitable 3 run homer. He wouldn’t be able to do all those things unless there was a brain sending fight of flight signals to his body that he is terrified.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 28th, 2012
9:46 pm
Trouble brewing. Rev never would be close to that Upton groundball.
ChattTownBrian
June 28th, 2012
9:46 pm
he be wild too
Capt.Mudd
June 28th, 2012
9:47 pm
No walks….ok, Fredi off his @ss just like he’s supposed to [Read: Livan Marathon of Braves yore].
ray k.
June 28th, 2012
9:47 pm
Fight OR flight.
With Mike, of course, it’s flight.
phil
June 28th, 2012
9:48 pm
Medlen is an average to good pitcher. That’s it. And that’s fine, but he’s no Mauer.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 28th, 2012
9:48 pm
Medlen just had to walk Goldschmidt.
The A Bomb
June 28th, 2012
9:48 pm
AND THE HAWKS SELECT……
JENKINS! Great pick!
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 28th, 2012
9:48 pm
DS1 McCann is actually hitting better against lefties this year than righties……. just sayin.
Fredi doesn’t seem to pay too much attention to that kind of stuff……
Ward
June 28th, 2012
9:48 pm
Atlanta Hawks pick select John Jenkins Gaurd from Vanderbelt 23 pick.
Sopheee
June 28th, 2012
9:48 pm
Seriously Hawks? The tradition continues.
ChattTownBrian
June 28th, 2012
9:49 pm
This is the game right here
Ward
June 28th, 2012
9:49 pm
That was a great pick……
Venice Jim
June 28th, 2012
9:49 pm
That was easy…
MIBravesFan
June 28th, 2012
9:49 pm
Good job, EOF!
phil
June 28th, 2012
9:49 pm
EOF disappointed to only throw one pitch?
Whew…
Jake W.
June 28th, 2012
9:50 pm
Minor has me wondering about these Vanderbilt kids….
Oh wait Price went there too, never mind. Lets go Hawks
Sopheee
June 28th, 2012
9:50 pm
Honestly can’t complain considering I know nothing about him.
Capt.Mudd
June 28th, 2012
9:51 pm
Was Chip paying respects to the NBA’s Oklahoma City “Thunder?” Nice touch–class move
The A Bomb
June 28th, 2012
9:52 pm
Jenkins can make shots from anywhere. Exactly what the clanking Hawks need since they lost Crawford.
Capt.Mudd
June 28th, 2012
9:52 pm
No 7′0″ “Melo” for the Hawks?
(Rob from SC)
June 28th, 2012
9:53 pm
bunt Uggla
Ward
June 28th, 2012
9:53 pm
Walk Off by Chipper, and let’s win this game.
N Nine
June 28th, 2012
9:54 pm
It’s time to score right here. yes
We win next 4 games, we’ll be in first. No help needed, just win baby
bravesgrl4life
June 28th, 2012
9:54 pm
Uggla, I only had a burger for dinner. I’m ready for my tater. Can you please serve that up now?
truth5
June 28th, 2012
9:54 pm
if uggla could see the ball 1/10th as good as chipper we would be fine.
phil
June 28th, 2012
9:56 pm
Release Dan….
Venice Jim
June 28th, 2012
9:56 pm
That is acceptable…
MIBravesFan
June 28th, 2012
9:57 pm
Thank you very much!
Bat Masterson
June 28th, 2012
9:57 pm
I don’t think even Chipper can hit a walk off in the 8th inning, Ward
phoenix
June 28th, 2012
9:57 pm
A few weeks in the minors did Jurrjens a world of good. I wish they’d send Uggla down. He’s lost.
Capt.Mudd
June 28th, 2012
9:57 pm
Pathologically inept…..further research may reveal cause, if I had to guess–perhaps this is a case of Ugglamortus
Venice Jim
June 28th, 2012
9:57 pm
That, not so much acceptable
truth5
June 28th, 2012
9:57 pm
uggla really sucks. really.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 28th, 2012
9:57 pm
There is literally no pitch right now that Uggla can handle. He looks worse than he did in last year’s first half. Wow.
phil
June 28th, 2012
9:57 pm
Balk? Must have been a twitch if that….
Dan….sigh.
bravesgrl4life
June 28th, 2012
9:58 pm
Guess I’m going to bed hungry. But maybe Freddie can serve it up.
brian
June 28th, 2012
9:58 pm
on vacation and trying to follow on gamecast. Thought Chipper stole a base for a second. Did get a double take from me
JC Brave
June 28th, 2012
9:58 pm
Uggla with his great performance!
phil
June 28th, 2012
9:59 pm
3 caught lookings in one game….from a swinging machine?
Odd.
bravesgrl4life
June 28th, 2012
9:59 pm
Make ‘em pay, Simba. Put one out there in the bullpen!
Kat
June 28th, 2012
9:59 pm
phil.. I think he took his first step w/ his front foot..
Joe 12-Pack
June 28th, 2012
10:00 pm
Fredi seriously needs to sit Uggla. Even if it is one game.
Jake W.
June 28th, 2012
10:01 pm
JJ did good considering last week he had a great zone to work with and this week a pinhole
Venice Jim
June 28th, 2012
10:01 pm
That was sloppy…
phil
June 28th, 2012
10:01 pm
I guess so, Kat….it was hard to tell.
Mitchell
June 28th, 2012
10:02 pm
We’re gonna lose aren’t we?
Where there’s a way, there’s a will with this team as unkind as it is to say.
Come on Braves. Finish the job.
N Nine
June 28th, 2012
10:02 pm
He will Joe 12-Pack, Uggla will not play tomorrow. Book it.
Powderfinger
June 28th, 2012
10:03 pm
C’mon Ski…
phil
June 28th, 2012
10:03 pm
Simmons…..booooo! In a friendly sorta way.
Capt.Mudd
June 28th, 2012
10:03 pm
The darned ball must be given a 450 pound wallop at once
The A Bomb
June 28th, 2012
10:03 pm
Fredi seriously won’t do ANYTHING the fan base realizes should happen.
Uggla’s his godson.
phil
June 28th, 2012
10:04 pm
Someone gets the boot here shortly….too much whining.
ACE
June 28th, 2012
10:04 pm
Where has the constanza crew been tonight?
ncbravesfan90
June 28th, 2012
10:05 pm
Hinske use to be able to hit those fastballs.
brian
June 28th, 2012
10:05 pm
Hinske is looking done
gcs
June 28th, 2012
10:05 pm
I smell extra innings coming our way.
JC Brave
June 28th, 2012
10:05 pm
Best in the whole world!
Go Braves!
Braint
June 28th, 2012
10:05 pm
Just saw he box score where Wilson was used as a PH? Why would you use him for anything other than to get people coffee?
Mitchell
June 28th, 2012
10:05 pm
GD.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 28th, 2012
10:05 pm
This team needs to get it together with men on base. Awful. 8 runs, 6 runs, and then they struggle on the third night.
David O'Brien
June 28th, 2012
10:06 pm
Uggla, Simmons and Hinske strike out in the 8th, Hinske with 2 on to end innning, and Kimbrel is on to pitch 9th with score 2-all.
phil
June 28th, 2012
10:06 pm
Uggla should perform the Mauer wake up the muscles routine…..
Problem solved if he would.
MFin04
June 28th, 2012
10:06 pm
Can’t win games with this atrocious display of offense.
ChattTownBrian
June 28th, 2012
10:07 pm
Braves suck!
Capt.Mudd
June 28th, 2012
10:07 pm
Not a curve–just pure gas; no excuses for Hinske and Uggs—I thought that’s what they did?
Mitchell
June 28th, 2012
10:07 pm
It’s what they do, TM.
MFin04
June 28th, 2012
10:07 pm
Team LOB 8, 0-10 RISP
nuh uh
June 28th, 2012
10:08 pm
Lose some weight, Hinske.
brian
June 28th, 2012
10:08 pm
how were those balls?
Ryan
June 28th, 2012
10:09 pm
Who the hell is voting for Uggla for the allstar game ?
bravesgrl4life
June 28th, 2012
10:09 pm
What a play by the Kid!
MIBravesFan
June 28th, 2012
10:09 pm
Nice play, kid!
DS1
June 28th, 2012
10:09 pm
Score 14 runs in the first two games and then folks think it has to continue into perpetuity? Most extremely good teams do not win all the time.
Why isn’t O’Flaherty pitching the 9th after a 1 pitch 8th inning?
Capt.Mudd
June 28th, 2012
10:09 pm
Dynamite….split off the ole block of_______________All-Star MLB
Mitchell
June 28th, 2012
10:09 pm
There’s no excuse for not winning this game.
Playoff teams win these kind of games.
The Nationals lost.
We need to win. Period.
phil
June 28th, 2012
10:09 pm
Not a save spot….
Fire FG!!
MFin04
June 28th, 2012
10:10 pm
Why isn’t O’Flaherty pitching the 9th after a 1 pitch 8th inning? – Had to be a pinch hitter for him in Hinske right?
Venice Jim
June 28th, 2012
10:10 pm
Wayne – pinch hitter
Capt.Mudd
June 28th, 2012
10:11 pm
The only thing perpetual about our 2012 Bravos is Fredi’s game plan
DS1
June 28th, 2012
10:11 pm
Oops. Got me there………
The A Bomb
June 28th, 2012
10:12 pm
Chris Young kills us again.
ncbravesfan90
June 28th, 2012
10:12 pm
And the blue cost us once again…..
Venice Jim
June 28th, 2012
10:12 pm
DFA Kimbrel!!!
phil
June 28th, 2012
10:12 pm
As i was saying….
Sigh.
Ward
June 28th, 2012
10:12 pm
Looks like Fredi is going to try, and win it in the 9th. “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
DS1
June 28th, 2012
10:12 pm
Kid is human after all.
Bravefaninok
June 28th, 2012
10:12 pm
Ouch!! shoulda walked him kimmie!
phoenix
June 28th, 2012
10:12 pm
This one is on Uggla. Multiple opportunities, zero contact.
bravesgrl4life
June 28th, 2012
10:12 pm
Kimmie, you were not supposed to do that.
Capt.Mudd
June 28th, 2012
10:12 pm
No game gain on DC tonight? Lost in Space….like Russian Monkey
truth5
June 28th, 2012
10:13 pm
kimbrel got rocked. at least the nationals lost…
phil
June 28th, 2012
10:13 pm
LOL!! Dfa indeed.
N Nine
June 28th, 2012
10:13 pm
Lesson learned, never bring in your closer in a non-save situation. TY FG. FML
Mitchell
June 28th, 2012
10:13 pm
Wouldn’t surprise me in a non-save situation to see Kimbrel give up a run.
To have a chance to put the game away with that guy in the bullpen ready to close the deal, that’s weak.
You give Craig Kimbrel a lead in the 9th inning, the game is over.
No excuse.
Ward
June 28th, 2012
10:13 pm
I spoke too soon….
Venice Jim
June 28th, 2012
10:13 pm
Yes, no one else had any opportunities…
monty
June 28th, 2012
10:13 pm
Guys a stud to take Venters and Kimmie deep. no doubters.
DS1
June 28th, 2012
10:14 pm
Blue squeezed him on a pitch before the tater. Too bad.
Bravefaninok
June 28th, 2012
10:14 pm
Can we score 2 off Puttz???
Tomahawk Mafia
June 28th, 2012
10:14 pm
All the guys the Braves have left on base make that home run so frustrating.
Jay Dubu
June 28th, 2012
10:14 pm
Setting up for a dramtic finish in the bottom of the 9th.
truth5
June 28th, 2012
10:14 pm
either way, if uggla just makes contact with chip on second and no outs, were in good shape to get that run in. Dan uggla cost us this one… and kimbrel closed the deal by getting rocked.
phil
June 28th, 2012
10:14 pm
Kimbrel is a goofy looking lil fella….with a cannon for an arm.
ncbravesfan90
June 28th, 2012
10:15 pm
Yep, homeplate ump has not been consistent all night long. You know your doing bad when both sides are barking at you.
Mitchell
June 28th, 2012
10:15 pm
Not even watching the game on TV or listening on radio.
Doesn’t take a genius though to know closers aren’t the same people in non-save situations.
Called it.
ChattTownBrian
June 28th, 2012
10:15 pm
We win this!
Bravefaninok
June 28th, 2012
10:15 pm
You always use your closer in a tie game at home…Usually it is your best chance to hold the tie.
DS1
June 28th, 2012
10:15 pm
Mitchell
Could you be any more of an obnoxious know-it-all?
Jake W.
June 28th, 2012
10:16 pm
Location was off on that fastball but give credit to the hitter for hitting it. It’d be nice if the offense picked him up.
One Big Dummy
June 28th, 2012
10:16 pm
I hate seeing the closer come into the game with a tie score. It feels like they ALWAYS give up at least one run. Hate it!
Bobby's Cox
June 28th, 2012
10:16 pm
Uggla’s the most frustrating Brave. If you’re not producing, at least move the runners.
Bat Masterson
June 28th, 2012
10:16 pm
Mitchell’s fault
Mitchell
June 28th, 2012
10:16 pm
What a joke.
phil
June 28th, 2012
10:16 pm
I won’t say never, but closers do tend to be less than sharp in tie games.
Oh well.
DS1
June 28th, 2012
10:17 pm
Bravefaninok
Thank you!
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 28th, 2012
10:17 pm
Couple guys get on, BMac hits a walk-off homer! Let’s do this!…
Ward
June 28th, 2012
10:18 pm
Ban phil………
JC Brave
June 28th, 2012
10:18 pm
The Nationals lost today, so what can we expect this bunch to do?
phil
June 28th, 2012
10:18 pm
Nice, michael….sigh.
Mitchell
June 28th, 2012
10:19 pm
Emphasis on “know-it-all” there, DS1.
Glad you finally figured it out.
ncbravesfan90
June 28th, 2012
10:19 pm
5.25 ERA for Putz…that mean a 1-2-3 inning is in order for the Braves?
Capt.Mudd
June 28th, 2012
10:19 pm
Very simple–if your ‘clean-up’ guy is dropped in the order; he is pissed and comes back making hay. Uggla apparently clamoring to get fescued.
Bobby's Cox
June 28th, 2012
10:19 pm
If Chipper does his pre-game dance, we’re up 6-2 and the game’s already over.
phil
June 28th, 2012
10:19 pm
Heyward…..
Well?
TNScott
June 28th, 2012
10:19 pm
I hope JJ will be putz in the 9th.
monty
June 28th, 2012
10:20 pm
You call curve on Young who is a dead red fastball hitter, walk him, no harm.
phil
June 28th, 2012
10:20 pm
Putz?
Really?
DS1
June 28th, 2012
10:20 pm
Mitchell
I was more keying on “obnoxious”.
ACE
June 28th, 2012
10:20 pm
Another Classic Fredi move. We can’t use Kimbrel for more than a three out save but we can use him in a non save situation.
ncbravesfan90
June 28th, 2012
10:21 pm
That would have hit a right handed batter.
bravesgrl4life
June 28th, 2012
10:21 pm
End of the hitting streak
phil
June 28th, 2012
10:21 pm
Wayward is back!!
phoenix
June 28th, 2012
10:21 pm
Dan Uggla, you’re a classy guy. Fake an injury, and let someone who’s deserving play in the All-Star game. Fan voting is a joke.
Venice Jim
June 28th, 2012
10:22 pm
Good grief – EVERY manager in baseball uses his closer in the top of the 9th in a tie game – learn the game!!!
Tomahawk Mafia
June 28th, 2012
10:22 pm
Heyward has looked really bad at the plate tonight. Swung at several pitches out of the zone in that plate appearance.
Rick
June 28th, 2012
10:22 pm
ACE, it is to the home team’s advantage to use their closer in the ninth in a tied game. There will not be a save situation for the home team.
ACE
June 28th, 2012
10:23 pm
too many missed chances tonight.
gcs
June 28th, 2012
10:23 pm
Never use your closer in non-save situations.
nuh uh
June 28th, 2012
10:23 pm
Heyward sucks. Bat him 7th.
DS1
June 28th, 2012
10:23 pm
ACE
What do you not understand about using your closer in a tie game at home? Standard baseball stuff there dipstick.
Bat Masterson
June 28th, 2012
10:23 pm
When did y’all want to use Kimbrel?
Ward
June 28th, 2012
10:23 pm
2 out of 3 isn’t bad, and let’s go take care of the Nats. Peace my friends, and “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!” Talk later, or tomorrow.
Bravefaninok
June 28th, 2012
10:23 pm
Cmon teen…get on for Mac,This team is due for a walkoff win.
The A Bomb
June 28th, 2012
10:23 pm
Just start Prado at 2B and Diaz in LF tomorrow. Give the godson nap time.
Joe Scarborough
June 28th, 2012
10:23 pm
A reminder of phoenix’s acumen:
phoenix
May 26th, 2012
9:55 pm
On Opening Day, I predicted Fregosi would be Braves manager by June 15. I’m sticking with it.
Joe 12-Pack
June 28th, 2012
10:24 pm
Another loss that you can hang on Fredi
nuh uh
June 28th, 2012
10:24 pm
nice play…
MIBravesFan
June 28th, 2012
10:24 pm
Dang it!!
Venice Jim
June 28th, 2012
10:24 pm
Ugggghhh…
JC Brave
June 28th, 2012
10:24 pm
The super Braves amazing monstrous offense strikes again.
Please, sit Uggla for at least ONE game…
ncbravesfan90
June 28th, 2012
10:24 pm
I think Arizona had Kimbrel pitching the 9th for them and we had Putz pitching for us.
Bravefaninok
June 28th, 2012
10:25 pm
Damnnnnnnnnnn oh well
DS1
June 28th, 2012
10:25 pm
This blog just proves that there are a boat load of dum shyts that think they are baseball experts.
Later true baseball fans (battery is dying and I’ve got a sprinkler head to replace…..)
Bo Graves!!
The A Bomb
June 28th, 2012
10:25 pm
Great play by the Silent Assassin.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 28th, 2012
10:25 pm
It was the right call to use Kimbrel in the 9th. Chris Yong just beat him and the Braves left far too many men on base tonight. What a frustrating loss. Momentum would have been nice heading into a series against the Nationals, but they cough up a lead and squander a bunch of opportunities.
ACE
June 28th, 2012
10:25 pm
Time for the usual post game quotes. Got to keep running him out there, got to tip your cap and believe the back of the bubble gum card.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 28th, 2012
10:26 pm
Or not…
Blah. Well, we did win the series…
N Nine
June 28th, 2012
10:26 pm
Goes to show baseball is unpredictable.
Introducing: The hottest deadliest pitcher vs the coldest hitter just ahead of Uggla.
Ballgame. Unreal.
Jay Dubu
June 28th, 2012
10:26 pm
2 out 3 isn’t bad….yes it is! The Nats finally lose, and the Braves have a chance to close some ground, and they lay an egg like this.
The Braves face the Nats the next 3 games with Delgado and Minor pitching two of them. They could find themselves 5.5 back really quick.
gcs
June 28th, 2012
10:26 pm
Poor personnel choices by Fredi have cost the Braves at LEAST 10 losses this year
truth5
June 28th, 2012
10:26 pm
if uggla is an all star second baseman, i’m an astronaut
The A Bomb
June 28th, 2012
10:26 pm
The quote will be something like “happy with 2 out of 3.”
BANK ON IT!
monty
June 28th, 2012
10:26 pm
DOB jinxed that one. All that love for Kimbrell. (;
Tomahawk Mafia
June 28th, 2012
10:26 pm
The win tonight also would have been great with Delgado and Minor lurking around the bend. No way both of them pitch well in the same series, much less win.
DZ
June 28th, 2012
10:27 pm
truth5, you have been grounded.
phil
June 28th, 2012
10:27 pm
It’s a meaningless loss so who cares….
Baseball is about fun and i had some tonight.
Fire FG though!!
cabravesfan
June 28th, 2012
10:27 pm
So using our best reliever in a tie game in the 9th inning was a bad decision?
monty
June 28th, 2012
10:27 pm
It’s OK, that one won’t count come September.
ACE
June 28th, 2012
10:27 pm
Yea DS1 how did that work out. Fredi said earlier that he WOULD NOT USE KIMBREL IN A NON SAVE SITUATION. You see even Fredi doesn’t listen to Fredi.
Jay Dubu
June 28th, 2012
10:28 pm
The Braves got some hits, just couldn’t get them where they would do the most damage.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 28th, 2012
10:28 pm
The Braves also had some pretty bad at bats in key situations. They swung at pitches out of the zone or made some outs early in the count. Otherwise they did have good at bats against Bauer.
Aaron
June 28th, 2012
10:28 pm
“happy with 2 out of 3” is a loser mentality.
bravesgrl4life
June 28th, 2012
10:29 pm
Well, damn. I wish we could figure out how to win when the gNats lose. Not meant to be tonight. I hate games where the ump is so damn clueless. Night, y’all.
I won’t be on tomorrow for the game as hubby and I are going rockin’ and rollin’ again – Rock of Ages tour at Lakewood. I’ll monitor game on my atbat app for Iphone, tho. God, I hope the Nats are just really tired from the mini-marathon game today.
Disgusted
June 28th, 2012
10:29 pm
I am not going to blast Fredi for putting Kimbrall in there for the 9th, but this time Kimbrell did not get the job done.
Its bad when the guy you could count on all yr lets you down and no excuses, the offense did not produce and this is a loss in plain English.
I cannot believe it that Kimbrall of all people lets em down — Very BUMB. Hope this is not the begining of a Kimbrell slump a la Venters or we are really screwed.
No game is a good game when you lose. Braves fans should be pissed at this loss. It was winnable.
Now its panic time again.
ACE
June 28th, 2012
10:29 pm
Get ready for the post game excuses.
Foster Brooks
June 28th, 2012
10:29 pm
‘2 out of 3′ is a 108 win season
Disgusted
June 28th, 2012
10:30 pm
I am worried about this series vs the Nats, afraid that we might get swept.
Venice Jim
June 28th, 2012
10:31 pm
I love it when people fabricate quotes to prove their “point”…
The A Bomb
June 28th, 2012
10:31 pm
Gonzalez isn’t to blame for this one, and that’s coming from me.
He makes poor personnel decisions but I’ll give him kudos for starting the entire front line tonight against Bauer. Good move.
Bringing in Kimbrel is what he’s always done along with almost every other MLB manager. Good move. Young just kills us — always has.
Not an Uggla guy — but I love the way each at-bat is analyzed around here. Starters get around 500-600 each season, so I’m sure an 0 for 4 warrants a benching, demotion to AAA or an outright DFA.
Some of you PROVE moonshine is still alive and well in some of your bathtubs. Holy crap.
Foster Brooks
June 28th, 2012
10:31 pm
I don’t get the fretting over Kimbrel pitching the 9th…come on folks, let’s get a clue. Baseball 101.
Jerry
June 28th, 2012
10:32 pm
Well, couldn’t watch the game tonight and figured the Braves wouldn’t sweep anyway, but just found out that Danny boy had the hat trick tonight. Just keeps getting better and better, doesn’t it? How’s that all star looking for you boys and girls now?
Jake W.
June 28th, 2012
10:32 pm
A little disappointed in the approaches by Heyward and Bourn in the 9th, very impatient with a not so dominant closer. All this doesn’t matter though, Fredi sucks, the end. That’s the only narrative that matters. Some people can do no wrong. Fredi can do no right. Got it.
phil
June 28th, 2012
10:32 pm
Panic time?
LOL!
Felix
June 28th, 2012
10:32 pm
JJ pitches his guts out and the puny Braves offense lets him down. Uggla and McCann are killing us at the plate.
Bat Masterson
June 28th, 2012
10:32 pm
Now its panic time again.
And Bob’s you uncle
Mitchell
June 28th, 2012
10:32 pm
DS1
June 28th, 2012
10:20 pm
Mitchell
I was more keying on “obnoxious”.
Big surprise.
Was I right or was I wrong?
That is the question, friend.
Norville
June 28th, 2012
10:34 pm
Way to blow the game Craig! Send Kimbrel to Gwinnett. Don’t let him come back until he has stretched his arm out.
Brava
June 28th, 2012
10:34 pm
I despise Fredi, but as others have said, this one wasn’t on him.
MFin04
June 28th, 2012
10:35 pm
Offense sucked tonight, should’ve got JJ a win but didn’t. Move on.
count_schemula
June 28th, 2012
10:35 pm
We needed right handed power.
The A Bomb
June 28th, 2012
10:35 pm
This Twitter stuff is one of the worst features in the history of broadcasting.
Bobby's Cox
June 28th, 2012
10:35 pm
Maybe the only questionable move tonight was leaving JJJ in to face the lefty.
Got to score runners on 3B < 2 out, and gotta move runners on 2B with no out
Mitchell
June 28th, 2012
10:37 pm
I’m wasn’t even following the game until I saw the score online in the 7th.
All you have to do is look at their record over the past two years at home to feel pretty certain they’re not going to win.
If it was 2010 it’s a different story but, sadly, time marches on.
Can’t lose that game. There’s just no excuse.
phil
June 28th, 2012
10:37 pm
And on this panic-ridden night, i bid you all good night!
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 28th, 2012
10:38 pm
Felix Uggla and McCann are killing us at the plate.
Hey, BMac had an RBI tonight…
Maybe THAT will get him going??…
Jake W.
June 28th, 2012
10:39 pm
Braves just wanted to keep that streak of facing teams with a winning record going for at least one more weekend.
Capt.Mudd
June 28th, 2012
10:39 pm
Jordan tipping hat…..mute is engaged…..just get to the good part, Fred’s comments {Young just connected, he came thru…the way it goes}. Insightful, informative, a bit incongruent and TANGENTIAL……ladies and gentlemen, your skipper; Fredi Gonzalez!!!
Ryan
June 28th, 2012
10:40 pm
Young took close pitch the same one Uggla fouled off then allstar take pitch down the middle. Did everyone who voted for him hear of Phillips or Infante?
Bobby's Cox
June 28th, 2012
10:40 pm
If there’s one reason why we shouldn’t have pitched Kimbrel tonight, it’s because he pitched last night and we have the first place Nats coming in for 3. We’ll need him then, so maybe a night off for Craig in a game where he wouldn’t get a save, wouldn’t have been a bad idea.
Also, we had the top of the lineup due in the 9th with the pitcher’s spot making the last out of the 8th. That’s probably 2 innings out of another reliever, yet we would’ve wasted 3 relievers in 2 innings had Kimbrel not given up the bomb. Bad foresight IMO in a tie game in the 9th inning.
The A Bomb
June 28th, 2012
10:43 pm
PAY THE HOUSE!
The A Bomb
June 28th, 2012
10:43 pm
1. HAT TIPPING
2. 2 OUT OF 3
This is a recording.
NickB
June 28th, 2012
10:45 pm
Infante has not had nearly the year Uggla has.
Ryan, look up the numbers and try to get past batting avg as the only stat that matters
NickB
June 28th, 2012
10:46 pm
I thought Fredi made the right call pitching Kimbrel then, results didn’t pan out. It happens sometimes, nobody is perfect every time out.
ChattTownBrian
June 28th, 2012
10:48 pm
I’m with Fredi … we won the series. That’s all that matters. That is what you want. Sure you want to get greedy with the sweep, but I’m satisfied.
NickB
June 28th, 2012
10:49 pm
I’m excited to play the Ntas next, but the pitching matchups aren’t the best……..
Derp
June 28th, 2012
10:51 pm
How bout that sweep?
David O'Brien
June 28th, 2012
10:52 pm
Braves went 0-for-8 with RISP, left 10 on base in 3-2 loss
Disgusted
June 28th, 2012
10:54 pm
I have been an Uggla backerbut for now, my paitence with him is running thin.
He deserves to be Booed until he starts producing again.
The only guys on this teamwho are All-Star caliber are Bourn and Kimbrall.
Uggla deserves all the criticisim he is getting on this blog as of late.
Disgusted
June 28th, 2012
10:55 pm
Come on tommorrow night, cal we all start Booing Mr. Uggly at bat.
He deserves it. I shall lead the round of Boos.
NickB
June 28th, 2012
10:56 pm
booing your own players shows a lack of character IMO, shows an entitled spoiled rotten personality problem
NickB
June 28th, 2012
11:02 pm
I feel bad for Uggla, it’s not like he’s all smug about it he’s still playing his ass off.
keylargo
June 28th, 2012
11:02 pm
Uggla didn’t hit last year until August, then he carrier the team for the rest of the season. IN August and Sept he hit .288 .376 .561 .936.
Face it, lots of MLB hitters are very streaky. Martin Prado is another. We couldn’t get a decent offer for him and nobody cared what happened to him coming out of Spring Training. Now he’s probably the best hitter. Prado basically hits half the year and is very, very average the other half of the year.
How do you deal with it? The best way you know how to and you hope several guys come together in September.
Capt.Mudd
June 28th, 2012
11:08 pm
My take–and I’ll be serious, promise…..Fredi, generally had his tuchus together tonight–I see why one wants to hold the tie and give yourself the best chance to win in the ninth—he went with the awesome righty….EOF rests, he’ll get more work with DC. Uggla is just Uggla….he did manage to get hit so he contributed, and yes it burns me up that he has been stinking it up so bad lately; but I like the guy…when I ‘rip’ him it’s cause I like the guy and know he can do better. Finally, we lost because we just blow! No seriously, we fell short simply by hanging too many on the base paths.
Ward
June 28th, 2012
11:12 pm
Atlanta Hawks, select Mike Scott Forward Virginia. Can score some points fast. Good solid pick. All, Have a good one! Just thought I would drop that in, and Peace Out! “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
Capt.Mudd
June 28th, 2012
11:16 pm
@Ward….have a good one, cheers!
David O'Brien
June 28th, 2012
11:24 pm
Postgame QUOTAGE from the Home Nine
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/06/28/braves-quotes-after-thursdays-loss-to-diamondbacks/
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 28th, 2012
11:29 pm
Good evening all. Sad ending tonight, but hey, we got 2 of 3. We won the series. And that’s all we’ve got to do. Sucks Kimmie’s streak is broken, time to start a new one.
JJ- Good 2nd start, now onto the next one. Show me more JJ
Time to step it up if you want to even sniff the ASG kid.
Uggla- Uggh… what else can I say?
Mac- Nice throws, even Pastornicky could have handled those
MikeInFl
June 28th, 2012
11:34 pm
Hey, just logged on and am glad to see some sane posts here at the end… not even gonna go back and see what the peanut gallery had to say.
Glad to see JJ pitch well again – that’s huge – and really, every inning Kimbrel pitches is crucial… he was gonna give up a run sooner or later, and chances were, it was gonna hurt. Absolute right move using him in the ninth, though.
Uggla’s struggling as bad (or worse) than he did the first half last year. But the good news is, we know he’ll come out of it, and probably with a vengeance.
Gonna be in Atlanta this weekend (geez, gonna be hotter there than down here!) but won’t get to see any games. Still always great to be back in Atlanta!
Thanks for the quotes, DOB. Fredi sounds a little tepid in his comments about JJ, but maybe reading too much into it. Sure is good to read real ballplayers’ comments on losing a game, as compared to the whining in-game crowd.
George
June 28th, 2012
11:39 pm
I will be back to let y’all know my thoughts on the game, but right now have to finish voteing.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 28th, 2012
11:42 pm
Oh, and Kimbrel? He couldn’t keep pitching out of the world forever…. only his 5th earned run this year.
George
June 28th, 2012
11:49 pm
Wow KIMBREL let us down. I want BILLY WAGNER back. FREDI did nothing wrong tonight
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 28th, 2012
11:50 pm
Venice Jim
June 28th, 2012
9:42 pm
Would have been an error on the Rev…
Unfortunately, I agree with you. The scorers were a little harsh with Tyler, his 8 errors probably should have been just 4 (maybe 5)
nolie
June 28th, 2012
11:52 pm
well that’s what I was afraid would happen when I had to leave. get let all them early runners stranded and give the other team a morale boost and extra chances to win.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 28th, 2012
11:57 pm
Bat Masterson
June 28th, 2012
10:23 pm
When did y’all want to use Kimbrel?
In the 6th instead of letting JJ face Kubel
Aaron
June 28th, 2012
10:28 pm
“happy with 2 out of 3” is a loser mentality.
Anyone that says that has a I’m crazy mentality.
George
June 28th, 2012
11:58 pm
Read the post-game qoutes. FREDI still tipping his cap, DOB still not asking him tough questions. Same old, Same old.
George
June 28th, 2012
11:59 pm
Should have been a W, should have been a sweep.
David O'Brien
June 29th, 2012
12:01 am
updated GAME STORY with quotes
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/06/28/kimbrel-gives-up-9th-inning-homer-braves-fall-3-2-to-dback/
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
12:02 am
Maybe THAT will get him going??…
This phrase was used with Nate McLouth in 2010 and 2011, and Heyward in 2011. It never happened….
Uggla didn’t hit last year until August,
Actually he started in July, his hit streak started on July 5th…..
David O'Brien
June 29th, 2012
12:02 am
Thanks for reading, George.
NickB
June 29th, 2012
12:04 am
It was a good game as JJ wasn’t commanding like he did in Boston but kept the team in the game.
If he can keep it up for 2 or more starts, I will believe he’s back
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
12:06 am
Braves went 0-for-8 with RISP, left 10 on base in 3-2 loss
Lucky to get 2…. our pitching kept us in that one.
David O'Brien
June 29th, 2012
12:07 am
Uggla now 7-for-65 w/ 1 HR, 29 K in past 20 games; 5-for-51 w/1 RBI in past 15 games; and 0-for-22 with 13 strikeouts in past 7 home games.
The A Bomb
June 29th, 2012
12:09 am
Jurrjens was fine. He is what he is — a middle-of-the-rotation guy. Not a stud.
A bigger issue is Gonzalez not treating Uggla the same as other players. His favoritism of Uggla prohibits him from making tough decisions about getting him some rest and it hurts the team. You’d think someone who’s managed a guy for so long with recognize danger signs a heckuva lot earlier than he has. Gonzalez allows Uggla to go into deep slumps and acts like a blackjack player who refuses to go up to his hotel room when it’s apparent he’s going to lose all his money.
nolie
June 29th, 2012
12:13 am
sigh
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
12:14 am
If he can keep it up for 2 or more starts, I will believe he’s back
3/4 more starts….
Gonzalez allows Uggla to go into deep slumps and acts like a blackjack player who refuses to go up to his hotel room when it’s apparent he’s going to lose all his money.
LOL…. I like the fact that Uggla wants to play every day, but he can’t do it. He’s hurting himself (and the team) by doing so…. When Uggla slumps, he’s no different than letting Jack Wilson play. Then, Uggs struggles for weeks. If you put Wilson in to play every 2 weeks, you struggle for 12 days.
Waffle House or Bust
June 29th, 2012
12:22 am
Someone please remind me why Uggla is leading vote getter at 2B for NL? I don’t get it.
Mitchell
June 29th, 2012
12:23 am
The Braves lost that game in the 8th inning.
How do you have a guy like Craig Kimbrel waiting in the bullpen to close the deal and not push one GD run across in a tie game.
Any game in which he appears with the score tied, the Braves should just automatically get a big fat L.
That’s unacceptable.
His job is to close, not to carry the game into extra innings in the off chance the Braves actually score.
nolie
June 29th, 2012
12:23 am
cause he was leading in just about everything except batting average, including OBP which makes batting average pretty damn minor?
Waffle House or Bust
June 29th, 2012
12:24 am
I said it in April and I will say it again… RISP are going to keep this team out of the playoffs.
nolie
June 29th, 2012
12:24 am
Bitchell arrives……. ’bout time
Mitchell
June 29th, 2012
12:25 am
We have a worse record currently than the Chicago White Sox.
That is pathetic.
We’re somehow supposed to win 50 of the next 87 games?
Not gonna happen.
Waffle House or Bust
June 29th, 2012
12:26 am
Going to the game Monday and if you want to know who I am, look for me in 755 Club pimping with 3 beautiful models. (Nolie doesn’t believe I am a photographer so might have to snap a few just for him at the game). #HATERS
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
12:26 am
If FG brought in any reliever other than Kimbrel and we lost, ya’ll would have blamed Fredi for that…
Mitchell
June 29th, 2012
12:27 am
nolie, where exactly have you been, you gigantic douche?
Waffle House or Bust
June 29th, 2012
12:27 am
Mitchell – Long as Braves hang in there and people keep coming to Turner then Liberty is happy. Hasn’t been about winning here for years.
nolie
June 29th, 2012
12:28 am
why would I not believe you are a photog?
I just don’t believe you are much of a baseball expert.
nolie
June 29th, 2012
12:29 am
waiting for you to show up and enliven the place, Bitchell
Dumbfounded again......
June 29th, 2012
12:30 am
Mitchell
June 29th, 2012
12:27 am
nolie, where exactly have you been, you gigantic douche?
Link
nolie
June 29th, 2012
12:31 am
SIUYA Dumbunny again…….
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
12:32 am
“Bitchell”
Mitchell
June 29th, 2012
12:33 am
If you want to call it bitching, fine, but why shouldn’t I?
Why shouldn’t everybody?
What is there not to f*ing bitch about?
Same damn team every damn year.
Nothing ever changes. Another winnable game down the drain.
If you just like to sit in front of your computer all your life and watch Braves games with a bag of Cheetos in your lap, I guess it’s no big deal.
Some people have a little more invested however and are tied of seeing a second rate product.
But whatever.
Have some more jello, on me.
Dumbfounded again......
June 29th, 2012
12:34 am
you ain’t mad, is ya ?!
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
12:34 am
Yeah because Fredi has so many goodies to choose from on his bench if he sits Uggla.
nolie
June 29th, 2012
12:35 am
didn’t say you shouldn’t, you are even funny once in a while, although prolly unintentionally ……
nolie
June 29th, 2012
12:35 am
nah i always consider the source. nothing to get mad about here
B_F 54
June 29th, 2012
12:36 am
At least we didn’t lose any ground on the gnats lets hammer these dudes this weekend
nolie
June 29th, 2012
12:36 am
jello? I thought it was Kool Aid? Haterade drinker
ChattTownBrian
June 29th, 2012
12:37 am
Waffle House or Bust had one two many grease burgers at the waffle house tonight. It greased his brain up
nolie
June 29th, 2012
12:38 am
how much ya got invested in the Braves? Millions, thousands, hundreds, pennies??
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
12:38 am
CTB: Wilson is a Silver slugger!
NickB
June 29th, 2012
12:38 am
awwww Bitchell throws tantrum when every little thing in hi life doesn’t go hi way…. how cute.
yer mother must be so proud
Waffle House or Bust
June 29th, 2012
12:39 am
nolie – Now I know you get drunk before logging on here. Ha! You said you did not believe I was a photographer a few weeks ago. No sweat. I never claimed to be a baseball expert but did play for ten years and have loved the Braves since a little kid. Is it my fault that 99% of the stuff I call on here happens? Hmmmmm… maybe I am an expert.
nolie
June 29th, 2012
12:40 am
Bitchell is just kidding around, he has to be, nobody could actually believe all that stuff he writes….could they??
Mitchell
June 29th, 2012
12:41 am
David O’Brien
June 28th, 2012
10:52 pm
Braves went 0-for-8 with RISP, left 10 on base in 3-2 loss
Wow.
I did not know that.
That is weird, wild stuff.
How can that happen, honestly, to even the most marginally respectable team after 14 runs scored in the first two games of the series?
NickB
June 29th, 2012
12:42 am
because baseball is like that, the Yankees could lose 14-2 to a AAA team one day and then turn around and pummel the Rangers ,sweeping a 4 game series.
Baseball as a game has many many variables, hence the long season.
nolie
June 29th, 2012
12:42 am
sorry don’t drink. I was just messing with you. how would I know what you do for a living? I mighta been kinda skeptical of any hot models though
Dumbfounded again......
June 29th, 2012
12:43 am
Waffle House or Bust
June 29th, 2012
12:39 am
nolie – Now I know you get drunk before logging on here. Ha! You said you did not believe I was a photographer a few weeks ago. No sweat. I never claimed to be a baseball expert but did play for ten years and have loved the Braves since a little kid. Is it my fault that 99% of the stuff I call on here happens? Hmmmmm… maybe I am an expert.
B_F 54
June 29th, 2012
12:44 am
Thats a clown question ,Bro
Nerdville
June 29th, 2012
12:45 am
You think tonight was bad, wait till the Nats sweep the Braves this weekend.
nolie
June 29th, 2012
12:45 am
you capable of coming up with anything original Dumbunny Again?
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
12:45 am
I mighta been kinda skeptical of any hot models though
Very skeptical of this part, but then, all people have varying ideas of “hot”
nolie
June 29th, 2012
12:46 am
actually IINM you talked once of photography in your most recent previous avatar didn’t you?
NickB
June 29th, 2012
12:46 am
maybe said models have yellow fever ?
Ward
June 29th, 2012
12:47 am
Bitchers, go get a room……….Peace out! Give Peace a chance…….”Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
Dumbfounded again......
June 29th, 2012
12:47 am
nolie
June 29th, 2012
12:45 am
you capable of coming up with anything original Dumbunny Again?
Yo Momma !!
nolie
June 29th, 2012
12:49 am
99% ? Funniest thing I’ve read all summer. you must have left out a decimal point…..
nolie
June 29th, 2012
12:49 am
oh my, that was very good DFA .
Dumbfounded again......
June 29th, 2012
12:50 am
i done made old massa mad !
nolie
June 29th, 2012
12:51 am
in your dreams. you obviously never spent a lot of time around locker room humor. Insults do not lead to anger, just other return insults.
Dumbfounded again......
June 29th, 2012
12:53 am
whos mad ???
nolie
June 29th, 2012
12:54 am
massa forgives your ignorance though…..
Dumbfounded again......
June 29th, 2012
12:54 am
Hey Mitch ? one up, brotha !
nolie
June 29th, 2012
12:55 am
you claim that I am, I would hope that neither of us are
nolie
June 29th, 2012
12:55 am
he’s one up only to another idjit
Dumbfounded again......
June 29th, 2012
12:56 am
yo momma now thats ignorance, brotha !
Dumbfounded again......
June 29th, 2012
12:58 am
snowflake ?
nolie
June 29th, 2012
12:59 am
I is overwhelmed by your sparkling creativity. perhaps I have indeed met my match.
Dumbfounded again......
June 29th, 2012
1:02 am
i wasnt talking to you anyway, i was commenting on mitchell and your ass got mad because i agreed with Mitch ! get over it
Dumbfounded again......
June 29th, 2012
1:06 am
and if someone else says something funny about you, i’m going to keep on laughing and laughing at you, honey ?!
Capt.Mudd
June 29th, 2012
1:07 am
The asses are mad? Well I’m leaving…..cause my ass got no game.
Dumbfounded again......
June 29th, 2012
1:09 am
blame it on obamacare !
Capt.Mudd
June 29th, 2012
1:09 am
And this place is becoming like “Odd News” with Greg Poops…..I’ll tell ya!
nolie
June 29th, 2012
1:10 am
like I said, why would I get mad? I like picking on Mitchell. You are thinking way too highly of yourself if you think that I would get mad over anything that you say. I can only assume that you think that because you are mad.
Like I said, insults breed creative insulting replies, not anger to anyone steeped in that form of humor.
you are sounding kinda testy there though.
and what does it matter who you addressed it to? It is a public blog and we are all free to ridicule those we think are idjits
Capt.Mudd
June 29th, 2012
1:11 am
Obama your Mama!
Dumbfounded again......
June 29th, 2012
1:12 am
i agree.
nolie
June 29th, 2012
1:13 am
no thank you, I don’t want my mama hanging around Obama…
maybe DFA would
Dumbfounded again......
June 29th, 2012
1:15 am
no snowflake, i dont.
nolie
June 29th, 2012
1:15 am
aha playing the race card again? little bigot
nolie
June 29th, 2012
1:16 am
same ol’, same ol’….
nolie
June 29th, 2012
1:17 am
no matter what name you use you just can’t stop bringing that up can you?
nolie
June 29th, 2012
1:18 am
Bitchell, come back. you are more fun…..
Dumbfounded again......
June 29th, 2012
1:18 am
how do you know my mother is black ? you are the racists here.
NickB
June 29th, 2012
1:19 am
so, back to baseball
something was brought to my attention by a friend about the new CBA and how it will affect trades.
before, if you traded for say Greinke and got him for two months, you at least got 2 draft picks as compensation for losing him, but now mid season acquisitions are not eligible for said draft pick protection.
This, IMO, means the pricetage for potential “rental” players will drop a fair bit from last year. So instead of a team dropping a top 5 prospect plus some other pieces, I bet nobody on the big TOP 20 IN MLB prospect lists will be required , perhaps someone in the top 50 and another in the top 100 and a low level guy, but it’s not gonna take Delgado or Teheran to get him.
Dumbfounded again......
June 29th, 2012
1:20 am
i have the right to be on this blog as long as i am not saying anything racists. you are the one.
nolie
June 29th, 2012
1:20 am
I did not say anything about your mother. you are the one who always brings the subject up, just like with snowflake. not that it’s any surprise. I couldn’t care less what your mother is or you either.
Dumbfounded again......
June 29th, 2012
1:21 am
the same here.
Capt.Mudd
June 29th, 2012
1:22 am
I hope you win the races…..I’m going to bed.
nolie
June 29th, 2012
1:23 am
me? who started with the “snowflake” crap? Not I.
You will never meet anybody who cares less about race or religion than I do.
I also never said you don’t have a right to be here. Are you sure you can read???
nolie
June 29th, 2012
1:24 am
yeah Nick, Efrim and I and a few others were talking about that back when the changes were made. It might indeed lower the trade value of rentals some
nolie
June 29th, 2012
1:25 am
It would be real nice to take this series against the gNats huh?
Dumbfounded again......
June 29th, 2012
1:25 am
you just wont let it go.
Dumbfounded again......
June 29th, 2012
1:27 am
we will win 1 game.
NickB
June 29th, 2012
1:27 am
Frankly with the pitching matchups, I would consider 2 out of 3 to be a great success
nolie
June 29th, 2012
1:29 am
I won’t let it go? all I am doing now is responding to your comments……
Dumbfounded again......
June 29th, 2012
1:29 am
but our best pitchers are not going. like hudson and hanson.
nolie
June 29th, 2012
1:30 am
cya all, have a good night..
Dumbfounded again......
June 29th, 2012
1:31 am
NickB, really ??? you see minor winning ??
Dumbfounded again......
June 29th, 2012
1:31 am
you too.
NickB
June 29th, 2012
1:34 am
I could see Delgado and Hudson winning, and IF we can get to Strasberg early, we have a shot at that game too
Half Empty
June 29th, 2012
1:39 am
Insider on pitching injuries
On Tuesday night, word went around: Cincinnati Reds starter Bronson Arroyo was working on a no-hitter against the Milwaukee Brewers. Through 7 1/3 innings, Arroyo had allowed only one baserunner — a Ryan Braun hit-by-pitch in the first. Milwaukee had managed to get only four balls out of the infield.
This was unexpected, to say the least. Seventy-three pitchers have pitched at least 250 innings in the past two seasons. Only four of them have given up hits at a higher rate than Arroyo. The 35-year-old right-hander hasn’t thrown a pitch at 90 miles per hour all season, and his career ERA is basically league average.
Even if he did throw a no-hitter, no one would say Arroyo has “no-hit stuff,” which is why it wasn’t shocking when the no-hitter and the Reds’ 3-0 eventually vanished in the eighth. But there’s one crucial thing Arroyo does almost as good as anyone: He’s very, very good at showing up for work.
Most durable pitchers
Since 2002, here are the 10 pitchers to throw at least 1,000 innings without going on the DL.
Pitcher
Innings
Mark Buehrle
2,303
Livan Hernandez
2,153
Derek Lowe
2,121 2/3
Bronson Arroyo
1,808 1/3
Dan Haren
1,793 1/3
Justin Verlander
1,433
Matt Cain
1,424 1/3
James Shields
1,324
Tim Lincecum
1,111
Gavin Floyd
1,049
Baseball Prospectus keeps complete records of major-league disabled list stints starting in 2002. Since then, 10 pitchers have thrown at least 1,000 innings without once appearing on the disabled list. Arroyo ranks fourth on that list, with a little more than 1,800 innings (see table).
Arroyo is similar to Livan Hernandez, who’s in his 17th big league season and has yet to spend a day on the DL. In his prime seasons of 2000-2005, Hernandez’ 4.01 ERA was just 5 percent below league average. Forty pitchers averaged at least 100 innings per season during the same span with better ERAs. But Hernandez was the 10th-most-valuable pitcher during that period, racking up more than 19 wins above replacement purely by his ability to take the ball. He averaged 237 innings per season, and the teams he played for — Giants, Expos and Nationals — weren’t looking for flair. They were buying outs in bulk.
This durability sets guys like Hernandez apart from most pitchers. In each of the six seasons mentioned above, Hernandez finished in the top five in pitcher abuse points, a pitch-count-based metric designed by Baseball Prospectus to assess stress. Others on the list — Jason Schmidt, Mark Prior, Kerry Wood, Victor Zambrano — broke down in the near future.
After looking at the data, sometimes it seems surprising when any pitcher stays healthy for an extended period of time. A study by Jeff Zimmerman in 2010 determined that during the previous decade, any starter who had pitched at least 120 innings in one season had a 41 percent chance of hitting the DL the following year. From 2005-2011, an average of just less than 11 Tommy John surgeries were performed through June, according to data collected by BP injury authority Corey Dawkins. This year, the count is already up to 23, with pitchers like Jose Contreras, Felipe Paulino and Daniel Hudson likely to add to the total in the coming weeks.
With seemingly every day bringing news of new injuries, how is it that certain pitchers have managed to stay healthy year after year? And how might teams be able to find or develop more of them?
Some of these well-preserved pitchers have at least one obvious quality in common: less-than-impressive velocity. According to PITCHf/x data available at Brooks Baseball, the primary fastballs of the aforementioned top five DL-free pitchers averaged just 88.2 mph. That’s not a coincidence, according to the American Sports Medicine Institute’s Glenn Fleisig, one of the foremost experts on pitching biomechanics. “All things being equal, the 90-mph fastball is more stress on the elbow and shoulder than the 80-mph fastball,” Fleisig says.
That presents a problem for teams, since velocity often goes hand-in-hand with success. All else being equal, the harder a pitcher throws, the lower his ERA goes. But that extra speed creates extra stress, and that stress leads to injuries. Thus far, Justin Verlander has combined the durability of a league-average soft-tosser like Hernandez with the elite fastball and performance of a Cy Young winner, but very few other starters can say the same.
However, it’s never the case that all things between two pitchers are equal aside from velocity. For one thing, every pitcher delivers the ball in his own unique way, and that can mean the difference between a pitcher who breaks down and one who holds up. “If it’s good mechanics versus bad mechanics, that could more than compensate for the difference in ball velocity,” Fleisig says.
But what do “good” and “bad” mechanics look like? If it were easy to pass judgment on a player’s mechanics, there would be more major leaguers like Hernandez. Unfortunately, making sense of mechanics is one of the most difficult tasks facing teams. According to one scouting executive with a major league club, one of the factors that makes evaluating mechanics so difficult is that there’s no example of optimal mechanics to which each pitcher can be compared. “People say that maybe [Greg] Maddux had perfect mechanics,” says the executive. “But it’s very tough to say that there’s one ideal mechanical delivery, or one ideal arm action.”
Using the precise measurements made possible by motion capturing and high-speed cameras, Fleisig and his colleagues at ASMI have identified a number of mechanical risk factors and designed programs to correct them. He hopes that within 10 years, biomechanical analysis will become automated to the point that data can be collected in games. As ASMI’s methods improve and teams increasingly come to accept them, analysis of mechanics could pay off in better health for pitchers. However, short of sending a pitcher to be analyzed in the laboratory, teams can still learn a lot with the naked eye.
“There are definitely visual indicators that you can see from the stands,” says the executive. “The real good scouts, they’re all over it. It’s something that you can tell by watching if you know what you’re watching for. It’s not 100 percent, but I don’t think anything when you’re dealing with scouting is.”
Faulty mechanics can be fixed, but only at considerable risk to a pitcher’s performance. Doug Thorburn, a former biotechnician at the National Pitching Association and the co-author of “Arm Action, Arm Path and the Perfect Pitch,” says, “An ideal development path will include mechanical instruction in the early stages in order to maximize efficiency and minimize risk as the pitcher climbs the minor-league ladder.” By the time a pitcher reaches the majors, Fleisig adds, “It’s more a mentality of, ‘If it ain’t broken, don’t fix it.’”
But mechanics aren’t everything. “Fifty percent of the equation is how much damage you do to your arm, and the other 50 percent is how effectively you repair and recover from your damage,” Fleisig says. That means that much more than mechanics goes into the complex calculus of predicting what’s in store for a pitcher, including workload, nutrition and conditioning. (Bobby Cox once called Derek Lowe’s exercise program the “best workout routine I’ve ever seen.”) And the most important factor of all might be one whose impact on health is still largely beyond our understanding: Genetics.
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It’s difficult to say if Livan Hernandez’ durability is due mostly to his mechanics or simply genetics.
“All of these guys at the major-league level, and maybe most of the guys at the minor-league level, to a certain extent, they won the genetic lottery,” says the executive. “There are things they do that the average person just cannot do. You look at a guy like Livan Hernandez, that’s genetics. He’s not exactly a physical specimen, but he’s just got an arm that works, and he can go out there and pitch and pitch and pitch, and he doesn’t break down, he stays healthy. I’m not going to say that it’s not the product of a lot of hard work, but at the same time, he’s obviously just special.”
Since genetic freaks are few and far between, both Fleisig and the executive emphasize the importance of competent coaching and training staffs. “You want an aggressive athlete,” Fleisig says. “But if the athlete has a good relationship with the coach and the trainer to help read, whether in the training room or on the field, whether he’s had enough today, that player is going to benefit and have a longer endurance. Likewise, the next day, the player who knows his body and talks to the trainer and says, ‘My arm’s a little more worn out; I need a little more therapy,’ that’s where the people aspect comes into the equation.”
Despite the efforts of Fleisig and others, most of the major advances in pitcher preservation have been made in injury treatment. Injury prediction and prevention have made more modest progress.
“I don’t know that you can say that we’ve made a whole lot of progress,” the executive said. “I think teams can kind of identify the high-risk guys, but at the end of the year, there are going to be a ton of guys you weren’t expecting to break down.”
Given all the uncertainty, it’s not surprising that pitchers like Hernandez and Lowe have continued to draw interest from teams as they get into their mid-to-late 30s. All else being equal — there’s that phrase again — given a choice between an older pitcher with a clean bill of health and a slightly more injury-prone pitcher in his prime, which would most teams choose?
“The industry will probably say they’re going to go with the older guy, the Livan Hernandez,” says the executive. “You’ve got more to stand behind if you say, ‘We’re going to take the guy with this track record of performance over the last 10 years.’ But when that GM lays his head down on the pillow at night, he’s probably thinking that it’s a coin flip.”
Teams can take several steps to maximize their odds of lucking into the next Hernandez. They can recruit the best scouts, coaches and trainers and monitor their pitchers closely. They can make use of new technologies like PITCHf/x and the motion capturing available at ASMI. But even if they do everything right, they can mitigate the risk only so much.
“Pitchers are going to get hurt,” the executive concluded. “You just hope it’s not your guys at the wrong time.”
Ben Lindbergh is the managing editor of Baseball Prospectus.
Dumbfounded again......
June 29th, 2012
1:39 am
oh i didnt know hudson was going in the series.
Dumbfounded again......
June 29th, 2012
1:42 am
then again, the temp for sunday is a 108 and hudson struggle in hot weather.
Mitchell
June 29th, 2012
2:08 am
DS1
June 28th, 2012
10:23 pm
ACE
What do you not understand about using your closer in a tie game at home? Standard baseball stuff there dipstick.
Wow.
Did I miss something?
We lost, right?
Nevermind.
Ward
June 29th, 2012
5:13 am
Enter your comments here
Ward
June 29th, 2012
5:16 am
All, Braves can win two out of three. The Nats aren’t that tough, and Braves do have the pitching. Talk after the game today, all have fun. I believe the Braves can win. Peace my friends…..”Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
terry bellamy
June 29th, 2012
5:45 am
i know we need to save our bullpen but staying with the starter too long two nights in a row is poor management,especially when you see they are losing it. not only does uggla need some time off but freddie needs some time off too
Couch Tater
June 29th, 2012
7:01 am
Our PONY complex out here is the largest and most dominant in the nation for the younger players — 10 and under
From Keith’s Lawd:
Jim from Fresno: What about the Parker brothers? Are they gamers?
Keith’s Lawd: The commitment isn’t there. Their mom made them leave practice early, to pick up Candy from the pet groomer. Candy, on the other hand, has a real shot in next year’s Westminster Toy Group, IF, she can get a cool name like, ” Ars Arnatoria’s Rhesus Pesus”. I wish them the best. Their father is a pastry chef. Uses real Crisco for crust. To.Die.For.
Ease
June 29th, 2012
7:04 am
I will be your Dixie chicken
if you be my Tennesse lamb
and we can walk together
down in Dixie Land
Crash into me
Crash into me
Crash into me
Crash into me
Ease
June 29th, 2012
7:31 am
Just looked at Round 1 of the NBA Draft from last night. Other than Unibrow, 29 players of Who’s That.
Guess college basketball ain’t my thing…
Ease
June 29th, 2012
7:34 am
Rank Poster Frequency
1 TheOnlyBravesFan 111
2 Ease 95
3 Efrim 70
4 nolie 56
5 jeffrey d 44
I’ve never cracked the top five before, let alone the top two.
What’s funny is that the last two days have be two of the most productive I’ve had in a long time.
Ease
June 29th, 2012
7:36 am
Take away the lame MaCann fat jokes, and I am easily #1…
jeffrey d
June 29th, 2012
7:50 am
Can someone tell me what’s happening in this picture on the Braves front page? It looks like this guy (I can’t tell who it is) is slipping on a banana peel while someone blows a penny whistle.
jeffrey d
June 29th, 2012
7:50 am
http://www.ajc.com/multimedia/dynamic/01408/062912_braves_HS09_1408788g.jpg
jeffrey d
June 29th, 2012
7:52 am
What’s funny is that the last two days have be two of the most productive I’ve had in a long time.
Sadly, today is my last day of work for a few weeks, so I won’t be able to grace you guys with my charm and hilarity for awhile.
jeffrey d
June 29th, 2012
7:53 am
Oh, who are we kidding. I’ll be blogging 24/7 now while I’m watching infomercials in the dark and digging through a tub of ice cream in my sweatpants.
Tomahawkin
June 29th, 2012
8:12 am
Last Night’s Loss was not on Fredi
I blame Matt Chernoff for Jinxing Kimmie…He does it everytime!
He did it yesterday in saying that Kimmie should be in the Talks for Cy Young if he keeps his current pace (before last nights game)
Tomahawkin
June 29th, 2012
8:21 am
I normally Don’t get Greedy but we should’ve swept the series against the D-Bags . Ol Simp (Joe Simpson) mentioned it would be huge for morale heading into the Epic Clash this weekend against the Curly W….
The Pitching Matchups on paper favor the Curly W’s to take 2 out of 3…Count me Leading the Train of people who wanted Little Big Man Med’s to stat Saturday…WTH is Fredi Thinking???
Ease
June 29th, 2012
8:22 am
Its actually Simmons making a great play. He kinda of over ran the ball a tad and had to reach back. But he went a long way to get…
Tomahawkin
June 29th, 2012
8:24 am
Like I said yesterday before heading out to play in US 78 traffic, This year’s version of The Curly W reminds me of the 1994Pre-strike Expos…Just a Nasty Thorn in our side all year and a team that we can’t seem to get over the Hump.
That 1994 Expos Squad would’ve been an annual team to make the wildcard or division had it not been for the strike in 1994 which singlehandedly killed Baseball in Montreal
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
8:27 am
Take away the lame MaCann fat jokes, and I am easily #1…
Nah, I didn’t tell 26 McCann fat jokes. Good morning everyone.
Ease
June 29th, 2012
8:30 am
D-Bags – Short for douchebag, a person that sucks ass
Totally describes the Arizona Diamondback Baseball Club. Nice imagery.
Ol Simp – Joe Simpson?
Didn’t realize he was that old…Guess that might make Ol nolie blush a little.
Curly W’s – Curly Q’s? Maybe a mistyping?
Well anyway, Curly Q’s is a Moist Curls Detangler and Daily Curl Moisturize
Little Big Man – an oxymoron
Ha!, Nugh’ said…
Tomahawkin
June 29th, 2012
8:34 am
Ol Simp (Joe Simpson) is like an Uncle to us young Braves Fans
He is the only cat left from the old TBS Crew, Can’t believe he has been doing it (broadcasting) for 28 years…
Ease
June 29th, 2012
8:34 am
Haven’t seen Gimpah and McError in some time. Hope he is doing ok.
BASERUNNING
CS: Upton, J (7, 2nd base by Jurrjens/McCann).
Just in case he is still reading…He might’ve missed that.
Ease
June 29th, 2012
8:36 am
The real ‘Curly Q’ Don Sutton is at about 25 years maybe (excluding the short hiatus with the Nats and Dodgers)…
Ease
June 29th, 2012
8:38 am
Sutton stated with the Braves in 1989, broadcasting with TBS…
Ease
June 29th, 2012
8:38 am
He left in 2006 and came back in 2009.
Ease
June 29th, 2012
8:39 am
Holy Crap…
UGA running back #IsaiahCrowell sitting in Athens lock up right now on weapons charges.
Ease
June 29th, 2012
8:40 am
The Keith Marshall Era has begun…
Tomahawkin
June 29th, 2012
8:41 am
“UGA running back #IsaiahCrowell sitting in Athens lock up right now on weapons charges.”
OUCH
SMH
Tomahawkin
June 29th, 2012
8:43 am
Crowell
Dumb, Dumb, Dumb!!!
Buck and Kincade Should be interesting today….
Ease
June 29th, 2012
8:47 am
And this is somehow going to tune into…
It’s all Mark Richt’s fault.
Might as well blame Bobby too.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
8:48 am
Buck and Kincade? Nah, just Kincaid. When will Crowell get it together?
Cut Crowell!!!
jeffrey d
June 29th, 2012
8:53 am
And Fredi. Can’t wait for George’s take.
Efrim
June 29th, 2012
8:57 am
Tough loss, but it was bound to happen at some point. Funny as it did when we all looked up and noticed Kimbrel has been perfect since early May.
Ease
June 29th, 2012
8:58 am
When will Crowell get it together?
More like where.
Ease
June 29th, 2012
8:59 am
I can’t believe that Fredi used his closer in a non save situation. He is not a smart MGR.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
8:59 am
More like where.
True….
Efrim
June 29th, 2012
9:00 am
Julio Teheran gave up 5 home runs in 144.2 IP in the minors in 2011.
He has given up 10 home runs in 68 IP in the minors to date this year.
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
9:01 am
Tough loss last night, offense sucked and lost the game, it happens.
Defense has been outstanding as of late, bullpen, and starting pitching good as well. And McCann can throw out runners…
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
9:03 am
Efrim They’ve all come on his curveball
Interesting to see him struggle a bit,, need to trade him 
Efrim
June 29th, 2012
9:07 am
It’s actually scary how good the defense has been. Simmons is something else. Bourn and Heyward are elite defenders at their positions.
jeffrey d
June 29th, 2012
9:08 am
I hope not where…I like Crowell
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
9:11 am
jeffrey: I like his talent and his RB skills, but not his sense of judgement.
Lew
June 29th, 2012
9:13 am
“Prado basically hits half the year and is very, very average the other half of the year.”
Does anyone actually look things up before declaring their opinion?
Martin by month throughout his career -
April – .289, .359, .441, .800
May – .303, .355, .448, .802
June – .329, .366, .492, .858
July – .286, .336, .443, .779
August – .316, .353, .470, .823
September – .268, .315, .363, ..678
Seems pretty steady to me. Except for September (where he’s been injured the past two seasons), one month with below an .800 OPS (and that one month a .779 which ain’t off by much), he’s a damned good offensive player – a far cry from being “very, very average the other half of the season”.
Ease
June 29th, 2012
9:14 am
That’s delusional.
Malcolm between the tackles and Marshall slash and gash. I am not that disappointed.
Ease
June 29th, 2012
9:16 am
Apparently UGA does not recruit on “sense of judgment’.
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
9:17 am
“Simmons is something else.”
Well it is nice to feel like it is an automatic out when he gets to the ball, as opposed to with Tyler…the feeling of this could be a rough play every time.
Mixxo
June 29th, 2012
9:17 am
Owned last night.
Now, there’s a “baseball team” coming to town.
Lets go…..n’ stuff.
Efrim
June 29th, 2012
9:19 am
Prado is great. While I know his bat can play in LF, I’m hoping they stick him at 3rd base next year and leave him there for the next 4 seasons – provided they sign him to a 3 year extension through 2016.
Bat Masterson
June 29th, 2012
9:20 am
How old is Crowell?
Sopheee
June 29th, 2012
9:20 am
Is Crowell the same guy that had issues last year too? Not giving it all in practice, failed a drug test, etc?
Sopheee
June 29th, 2012
9:21 am
Although I probably just described half the SEC there.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
9:22 am
Bat: 19
Soph: Yep. Think he also had some academic issues as well (either bad grades or not showing up to class, something he said he did regularly in HS)
Tomahawkin
June 29th, 2012
9:24 am
Sopheee
“Although I probably just described half the SEC there.”
Bump It up to 2/3’s of the SEC
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
9:25 am
bump it up to everyone but Vandy
Efrim
June 29th, 2012
9:26 am
Prado is probably a better bet for an extension than anyone on the team this winter.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
9:28 am
Prado is probably a better bet for an extension than anyone on the team this winter.
As it should be. Isn’t anyone else who really “needs” one.
Ease
June 29th, 2012
9:28 am
Alabama, Auburn.
jeffrey d
June 29th, 2012
9:36 am
Crowell’s 19 and wasn’t raised like you or me. He’s a good kid and hopefully he’ll grow up and quit making dumb decisions.
jeffrey d
June 29th, 2012
9:37 am
I guess I’m more sympathetic because I see this stuff every day
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
9:45 am
It still is amazing to me that the team even considering trading Prado last off-season. Shouldn’t have even be mentioned. Just like it shouldn’t be mentioned trading Kimbrel or Heyward.
Ease
June 29th, 2012
9:45 am
You are in a unique position jeffrey, but college is also about growing up and learning the responsibility of being an adult. And especially if you are in a position with athletic responsibility. Crowell just let down/disappointed 50+ teammates and coaches that believed in him. Of that I can speak.
DUI’s, failed drug tests, academic problems, yeah, I can see and dismiss as kids being kids and doing dumb things. But there is no excuse for a 19 year having a gun in the car. None.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 29th, 2012
9:45 am
Ease @ 8:34—
Yeah, I think he did miss that—I’m sure he would have posted about that AND the tag at homeplate if he’d seen them…
jeffrey d
June 29th, 2012
9:47 am
but college is also about growing up and learning the responsibility of being an adult
This is a kid who wouldn’t normally go to college if he wasn’t gifted athletically. I really hope he takes that opportunity to grow up because if he doesn’t, he’s just going to continue the cycle that’s lead him to do stupid stuff like this.
jeffrey d
June 29th, 2012
9:48 am
led*
Get Greinke
June 29th, 2012
9:49 am
Trade Julio Teheran for Zack Greinke. Julio stinks and isn’t a top prospect any longer. Trade him now before his value gets even worse.
keylargo
June 29th, 2012
9:50 am
“Prado basically hits half the year and is very, very average the other half of the year.”
Does anyone actually look things up before declaring their opinion?
Yeah they do. Then somebody comes along and post half of their post.
Prado has hit much better in half of every season except in 2011 when he was consistent throughout the whole year. .260 .302 .385 .687
I can’t find the quote that showed his numbers are much better one half of the year than the other because I can’t remember which blog it was on but 2010 shows how he has done most of his careeer which is to hit better half of the year than the other.
NO ONE COMPARED MONTH TO MONTH.
prado in 2010 april thru june… .. 333 .374 .483 .857
PRADO IN 2010 july thru sept….274 .320 .429 .749
prado in 2010 april thru june 333 .374 .483 .857
PRADO IN 2010 july thru sept .274 .320 .429 .749
prado in 2011 when he was consistant the whole yeAR 260 .302 .385 .687
Lew
June 29th, 2012
9:50 am
Efrim – Agreed on the Prado extension, but I’d even go four years. His work ethic is incredible and I seriously doubt he’s going to fade anytime soon. One of the steadiest players we have and one hell of a motivated ballplayer.
Sopheee
June 29th, 2012
9:51 am
Reminds me of people that I went to high school with.
Tomahawkin
June 29th, 2012
9:52 am
Get Greinke
“Trade Julio Teheran for Zack Greinke”
No offense, but Thank Gawd you are not the GM
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
9:53 am
“But there is no excuse for a 19 year having a gun in the car. None.”
Correction…should have read….
“But there is no excuse for a 19 year having a gun”
Lew
June 29th, 2012
9:53 am
MFin04 – I never thought they really tried to trade him – nothing but a bunch of rumors from scribes that didn’t have anything concrete to talk about for a couple of months and some other bnlogging fools that actually thought it would be beneficial to trade a good bit of what makes the Braves offense productive.
Efrim
June 29th, 2012
9:59 am
Trade Julio Teheran for Zack Greinke. Julio stinks and isn’t a top prospect any longer. Trade him now before his value gets even worse.
First off, he’s 21 years old and there is nothing wrong with the kid having some struggles at that age in Triple-A. Second, why would you trade him coming off a poor month? You’re not maximizing his value that way. But again, Wren isn’t trading him for 2 months of Zack Greinke. No chance.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
10:00 am
It still is amazing to me that the team even considering trading Prado last off-season. Shouldn’t have even be mentioned. Just like it shouldn’t be mentioned trading Kimbrel or Heyward.
I don’t think the Braves tried to trade him. I think other teams wanted him in addition to JJ, kinda as an insurance policy if JJ didn’t rebound.
Bat Masterson
June 29th, 2012
10:02 am
“But there is no excuse for a 19 year having a gun”
Really? I haven’t read any of this stuff so what are we talking about here? An illegal handgun?
Efrim
June 29th, 2012
10:06 am
I hope we sign him to something in the 4 years, 34-35 million range. His last year of arb eligibility is in 2013 and he’ll probably get something like 7.5 million if he keeps this up. A 3 year, 27 million dollar extension would work well. That would keep him in Atlanta through his age 32 year old season.
DiamondbackMac
June 29th, 2012
10:09 am
Bat
http://blogs.ajc.com/uga-sports-blog/2012/06/29/georgia-tailback-isaiah-crowell-jailed-on-weapons-charges/
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
10:09 am
Lew: I’d go 5 years with Prado. He’s that worth it.
jeffrey d
June 29th, 2012
10:14 am
I knew a kid last year who was great…looked like he had really turned his life around. Then at 18, a week before graduation, he made a really, really stupid decision (also involving a gun…no one was hurt). I’m not saying they shouldn’t pay for their crimes, I just think it’s important to remember that they weren’t raised like most middle-upper call Americans. They grew up differently and have different mindsets, habbits, etc. It’s the norm for them.
DAP
June 29th, 2012
10:14 am
the good news is that jurrjens pitched ok.
Efrim
June 29th, 2012
10:15 am
I’d go 5 years with Prado. He’s that worth it.
Five years, on top of his last of arbitration? I’d pass on a contract that long for him.
Efrim
June 29th, 2012
10:16 am
the good news is that jurrjens pitched ok.
Hope he can keep it up, because as I think Fredi said, if he can give us decent outings, it will lessen the urge to trade for a starter as we get closer to the deadline.
Lew
June 29th, 2012
10:19 am
I’d go four years and buy out his last arb year and three of Free Agency – plenty of time to see if another extension is merited and waht the cost might be.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
10:19 am
Ef: No, I say a 5 yr deal this year in place of his arb… 5 years, 35-45 mil.
I hope JJ is good. Then the only guy to upgrade on is Minor, and it isn’t too hard to do that!
Bat Masterson
June 29th, 2012
10:23 am
Thanks, DbMac.
Ease
June 29th, 2012
10:23 am
jeffrey, did you ever see Boyz In The Hood? I liken your comments to what that movie was really about.
Great movie.
And I understand your view point and respect it. Growing up in N. Fulton really wasn’t that tough.
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
10:23 am
“I don’t think the Braves tried to trade him.”
Where is this false sense of remembering coming from? The Braves and their front office had him on the trading block, whether or not they were ACTUALLY going to trade him is kinda irrelevant, because both he and the organization didn’t know if he would be back as a Brave.
That is “trying to trade him” if you ask me.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
10:24 am
And I understand your view point and respect it. Growing up in N. Fulton really wasn’t that tough.
Neither is growing up in Northern Cobb…. but I do understand your point.
jeffrey d
June 29th, 2012
10:25 am
No, but I’ve heard “Boyz in the Hood” and the white preppy remix
Lew
June 29th, 2012
10:28 am
MFin04 – Right. KInd of like putting the entire team on waivers at the deadline, isn’t it?
Ease
June 29th, 2012
10:28 am
OK, I am Done With The Somber Stuff!
Huge, and I Mean Monumental Huge Statement Series Tonight at The Ted.
Rand El Del “Gotta’ Go Needs To Show His Marbles Tonight Or It might Be His Last. Those Pesky Gnats Are Four Realz. I Have A Bad Feeling In My Gut About Now.
Nothing Less Than A Broom Sweep Will Satisfy Me.
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
10:28 am
“was not a blown save, not a save situation”
I’m not sure how last night wasn’t a blown save. If you can blow a save when it isn’t the 9th inning, why can’t you blow a save when it isn’t a save situation?
jeffrey d
June 29th, 2012
10:28 am
Well I grew up in middle class suburbs in Gwinnett….work in an area of poverty now, though.
Tomahawkin
June 29th, 2012
10:29 am
Boyz N The Hood
Menace II Society
Juice
Higher Learning
All great flicks among others I can’t think to name…
jeffrey d
June 29th, 2012
10:29 am
Nice, Ease
jeffrey d
June 29th, 2012
10:35 am
Friday?
DiamondbackMac
June 29th, 2012
10:36 am
Bat
You’re welcome.
jeffrey d
June 29th, 2012
10:37 am
I have the most perfect sports vent today. If they don’t have a Friday vent (or worse, if they don’t post mine) I’m going to go all George on the Vent Guy
Lew
June 29th, 2012
10:38 am
A tie game is not a save situation and if you can’tt GET a save, you can’t blow it, either. Dude got a loss.
Bat Masterson
June 29th, 2012
10:39 am
jeffrey_
Post it here, I don’t read the vents.
Murph
June 29th, 2012
10:39 am
Bryce… Bryce… over here… David O’Brien, Atlanta Journal Constitution… Bryce, it’s very very hot here in Atlanta. What will you be doing to cool off after the game? I’ve heard that you don’t know how to swim, so I assume you won’t be in the hotel pool.
That’s a drown question, bro.
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
10:41 am
“A tie game is not a save situation and if you can’tt GET a save, you can’t blow it, either. Dude got a loss.”
I know that, but the blown save rule is different than the save rule. That is the problem I have. You can get a blown save when you can’t actually get a save.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
10:42 am
good one Murph… can’t believe I didn’t think of that. The fems @ the pool messed me up yesterday…
jeffrey d
June 29th, 2012
10:42 am
Congratulations to the University of Kentucky: 2 players and 3 eyebrows drafted in the first 2 overall picks of the NBA Draft.
Lew
June 29th, 2012
10:42 am
Oh well.
Tomahawkin
June 29th, 2012
10:43 am
I dunno why but they were calling it a Blown Save on Sports Radio This Morning…So MFin04 isn’t the only one tripping
Lew
June 29th, 2012
10:43 am
Maybe they should have a Blown Hold designation -
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
10:44 am
You can get a blown save when you can’t actually get a save.
How? I’m not aware of that….
jeffrey d
June 29th, 2012
10:45 am
They should have a blown RBI stat.
David O'Brien
June 29th, 2012
10:45 am
the lovely Elizabeth Cook and her ode to the El Camino and a certain driver or said vehicle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5yt0gXLkh0&feature=related
Murph
June 29th, 2012
10:46 am
You can get a blown save when you can’t actually get a save.
Can you strike out when not actually up to bat? Can you get an outfield assist when sitting on the bench?
These are the questions that will haunt future generations of baseball fans.
jeffrey d
June 29th, 2012
10:46 am
How? I’m not aware of that….
You blow a 3 run lead when it’s not the 9th, right? Or maybe if you blow any lead?
DAP
June 29th, 2012
10:46 am
MFin04 I’m not sure how last night wasn’t a blown save. If you can blow a save when it isn’t the 9th inning, why can’t you blow a save when it isn’t a save situation?
you must blow a lead to blow a save. its just an L.
as far as the braves “trying” to trade prado, no one has enough info to say that for sure. the rumors could have all been from other teams calling wren.
Ease
June 29th, 2012
10:46 am
Silly guys. You only bring in your closer to get saves, so if he doesn’t get it, then he blew it. Thus a blown save.
Simple logic.
Bat Masterson
June 29th, 2012
10:47 am
I just think it’s important to remember that they weren’t raised like most middle-upper call Americans. They grew up differently and have different mindsets, habbits, etc. It’s the norm for them.
I remember one day, when I was in high school, a guy got ticked off about something so he pulled a shotgun out and held the buses in front of the school hostage for a while. They talked him into giving up the gun eventually, I think it made the local news. I don’t remember him being in all that much trouble.
jeffrey d
June 29th, 2012
10:48 am
Maddux got strikeouts while on the bench
Ease
June 29th, 2012
10:48 am
Can you strike out when not actually up to bat? Can you get an outfield assist when sitting on the bench?
Apparently you can win a gold glove as a DH…so where does that fit in?
Frankie Wren
June 29th, 2012
10:49 am
In playoff hunt and better yet, have a month to evaluate your starting pitching. Minor, Delgado and JJ have 4 weeks to prove themselves. Delgado is the most stable of the 3 here and is not going anywhere. How the other two perform, we’ll dictate how aggressive they are getting a pitcher at the deadline. Thinking still they try to acquire somebody not named Greinke.
DAP
June 29th, 2012
10:49 am
MFin04 You can get a blown save when you can’t actually get a save.
no you cant. anytime a pitcher gets a blown save, they did it in a situation where they CAN earn a save.
Ease
June 29th, 2012
10:49 am
Didn’t Gattis hit like five home runs while in a cast and on the DL?
Thought I read that somewhere.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
10:53 am
no you cant. anytime a pitcher gets a blown save, they did it in a situation where they CAN earn a save.
That’s what I thought.
Lew
June 29th, 2012
10:53 am
DAP – What he’s talking about is a pitcher coming in in the sixth or seventh, blowing a lead, gets a blown save despite the fact that at that point he would have to pitch three innings for a save. Yes, the pitcher COULD go the three (or more) and earn the save, but it’s unlikely the way the pen is used these days.
Lew
June 29th, 2012
10:54 am
Point is – as someone said earlier – if a relief pitcher comes in at any point and loses the lead, they are charged with a blown save.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
10:55 am
Does anyone have the Insider Article on 5 busiest GMs this July? Wondering if FW is on it…
Frankie Wren
June 29th, 2012
10:55 am
Anyway counting the Phillies out of the WC right now are crazy. They are reeling but not as bad as their record is. If they somehow stay afloat the next couple of weeks, they get Howard back after the break. Pence will become a more dangerous hitter with the expectations as not being the main cog lifted, and Utley will help out as well. Doc gets back and the 20M lefthander can turn his season around. They are not done yet folks. Hopefully they continue to spiral the next couple of weeks.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
10:56 am
ah ok thanks Lew…. learned something new today, I always thought you just got a loss in those situations.
DAP
June 29th, 2012
10:58 am
lew What he’s talking about is a pitcher coming in in the sixth or seventh, blowing a lead, gets a blown save despite the fact that at that point he would have to pitch three innings for a save. Yes, the pitcher COULD go the three (or more) and earn the save, but it’s unlikely the way the pen is used these days.
yeah i know thats what he is talking about. thats why he is wrong. if you come in the game with the lead and lose it, you blow a save, period. the rule book doesnt care how managers use their players.
Lew
June 29th, 2012
10:59 am
Only Braves – Actually, they could get a loss AND a blown save.
Bat Masterson
June 29th, 2012
11:00 am
Pretty good one, jeffery
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 29th, 2012
11:00 am
Yes, Lew I know that…. I thought before all they got was a loss, and no blown save.
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
11:01 am
You can blow a save in the 7th, 8th innings etc can you not? And you can’t really earn a save in that situation….
Murph
June 29th, 2012
11:02 am
Saves:
Rule 10.20 in the Official Rule Book states:
Credit a pitcher with a save when he meets all three of the following conditions:
(1) He is the finishing pitcher in a game won by his club; and
(2) He is not the winning pitcher; and
(3) He qualifies under one of the following conditions:
- (a) He enters the game with a lead of no more than three runs and pitches for at least one inning; or
- (b) He enters the game, regardless of the count, with the potential tying run either on base, or at bat, or on deck (that is, the potential tying run is either already on base or is one of the first two batsmen he faces; or
- (c) He pitches effectively for at least three innings. No more than one save may be credited in each game.
jeffrey d
June 29th, 2012
11:02 am
Didn’t Gattis hit like five home runs while in a cast and on the DL?
I read he once impatiently homered from the on deck circle.
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
11:03 am
Nope, you get a blown save. Come on people, learn your baseball rules. Just saying if you can blow a save earlier than the 9th, you should be able to get a blown save in a tie game in the 9th. It is stupid either way.
DAP
June 29th, 2012
11:04 am
MFin04 You can blow a save in the 7th, 8th innings etc can you not? And you can’t really earn a save in that situation….
yes, you can. by finishing the game. example, if venters comes in in the 8th with a 1 run lead and gets three outs, he is in line for the save. he would earn it by coming back out and pitching the 9th. when venters comes in in the 8th inning up by one run, it IS a save situation. thus, if he gives up lead lead, he blew the save.
jeffrey d
June 29th, 2012
11:06 am
Apparently you can win a gold glove as a DH…so where does that fit in?
No errors. Duh.
kenhotlanta
June 29th, 2012
11:06 am
jeffrey d: “Crowell’s 19 and wasn’t raised like you or me. He’s a good kid and hopefully he’ll grow up and quit making dumb decisions.”.
I understand your point about how he and many others grew up in a different environment, but because of his athletic skills, he is getting a free education and the opportunity to make a fortune in the pros. All he has to do is follow the rules for 4 years…is that too much of a sacrifice considering the payoff?
And carrying a gun with an altered serial number is stupid and against the law, so why would you risk your whole future for such a dumb decision?
As a Georgia fan, it is very hard to understand why these kids can’t follow the rules for the short time they are in college, regardless of their upbringing. There should be advisers and counselors in place to show these guys how to survive the system and realize what the payoff can be.
But this stuff keeps happening over and over and not just at UGA. It saddens me that our players are called thugs, but that is what they are when they continue to live their lifestyle while in college.
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
11:07 am
“by finishing the game”
Ok, so what you are saying is that there STILL is no way Venters can get a save in that situation?
jeffrey d
June 29th, 2012
11:08 am
All he has to do is follow the rules for 4 years…is that too much of a sacrifice considering the payoff?
No. But keep in mind a lot of kids are nearsighted….they don’t see (or care) how their decisions today can lead them down a path of destruction.
Bayou Brave
June 29th, 2012
11:08 am
Surprising Stat (at least to me):
The Braves have committed 41 errors in 75 games… 3rd fewest in the NL, behind only Cincinnati (40) and Arizona (35). Six NL teams have 54 or more errors.
Braves are tied for the 6th fewest in the MLB.
DAP
June 29th, 2012
11:10 am
MFin04 Just saying if you can blow a save earlier than the 9th, you should be able to get a blown save in a tie game in the 9th
tie game isnt a save situation.
Murph
June 29th, 2012
11:10 am
Just saying if you can blow a save earlier than the 9th, you should be able to get a blown save in a tie game in the 9th
You’re not in a position to “save” if the game is tied, you’re in a position to “preserve”… so, if anything, there needs to be a new stat created for Blown Preserves.
Ease
June 29th, 2012
11:11 am
there STILL is no way Venters can get a save in that situation?
Nope. Venters is not the closer.
Bayou Brave
June 29th, 2012
11:11 am
Braves only have 31 quality starts (QS), 2nd worst in the NL. The Nationals, Mets, and Marlins are tied for 1st with 50 apiece.
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
11:12 am
“tie game isnt a save situation.”
Neither is the 7th or 8th inning.
cricket
June 29th, 2012
11:12 am
Maybe they should have a Blown Hold designation
venters votes NO on this one this year
DAP
June 29th, 2012
11:12 am
MFin04 Ok, so what you are saying is that there STILL is no way Venters can get a save in that situation?
are you serious?
Ease
June 29th, 2012
11:12 am
Blown Preserves.
Well then, can you please pass the jelly?
TennesseePaul
June 29th, 2012
11:12 am
Freeman looks like he’s heating back up…
Freeman over his last….
__________AVG__OBP__SLG__OPS
15 games .304 .339 .411 .750
11 games .302 .348 .442 .790
7 games_ .357 .400 .536 .936
Since returning from his thumb injury
_AVG__OBP__SLG__OPS
.323 .382 .484 .866
jeffrey d
June 29th, 2012
11:14 am
Thanks TP…I didn’t realize Freddie was hitting over .300 over the past 2 weeks +
DAP
June 29th, 2012
11:15 am
Mfin04 “tie game isnt a save situation.”
Neither is the 7th or 8th inning.
you have to be being purposley dense. did you read the rules murph posted? the 7th and 8th certainly are save situations.
Mixxo
June 29th, 2012
11:15 am
‘Hold’ this.
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
11:15 am
DAP – Are you serious? So basically every reliever but closers has like a 10% or less save success percentage?
cricket
June 29th, 2012
11:16 am
The Braves have committed 41 errors in 75 games… 3rd fewest in the NL
usually most errors are committed in infield and according to blog-experts, we have statues in infield except Simmons. i guess statues don’t get to tough chances, keeping the errors down..
Bayou Brave
June 29th, 2012
11:16 am
Brian in SC,
What’s the Braves’ pitchers BABIP before and after Simmons?
Murph
June 29th, 2012
11:17 am
This is the lineup I’d go with for the Nats series…
1. Bourn (CF)
2. Prado (LF)
3. Heyward (RF)
4. Chipper (3B)
5. Freeman (1B)
6. Uggla (2B)
7. McCann (C)
8. Simmons (SS)
Now that Heyward’s hitting streak is over it’s ok to move him out of the 2 hole… doesn’t really matter, I guess, but the top 5 hitters should be stacked at the top with Simmons hitting 8th, just in case there’s some kind of miracle and either BMac or Uggla manage to get on base.
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
11:18 am
“you have to be being purposley dense. did you read the rules murph posted? the 7th and 8th certainly are save situations.”
You have to be as well, since you clearly aren’t reading any others posts. How many saves does Venters have? How many blown saves? Get back to me on that one.
Lew
June 29th, 2012
11:18 am
Yep, total shock that a 19 year old has poor impulse control.
CB
June 29th, 2012
11:19 am
This conversation is funny, glad I don’t care who is right. We just take our self way too serious around here.
Murph
June 29th, 2012
11:20 am
MFin, did you know that if JJ had gotten a hit in his last AB he would have qualified for a save?
i swear, they need to do a better job of explaining the rules and these weird one-off things. A pitcher getting a hit shouldn’t matter in pitching statistics.
jeffrey d
June 29th, 2012
11:20 am
I like it, Murph. I’d switch Chipper and Heyward, but what do I know?
DAP
June 29th, 2012
11:20 am
MFin04, if you dont like the rule, thats cool. but your reasoning for it tells me you even really understand the rules.
Murph
June 29th, 2012
11:21 am
How many saves does Venters have?
Tell me, MFin, how many games has Venters finished for Atlanta?
Go back and read the rules I posted again… if you don’t finish the game, you don’t get the save. Pretty simple.
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
11:22 am
The leaders in blown saves aren’t even closers. EOF is one of the league leaders in blown saves, yet has zero saves. Something is clearly wrong with that stat. I’d much rather Kimbrel get a blown save in a non-save situation in the 9th, then EOF get one in a game where he will NEVER get a save.
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
11:24 am
“Go back and read the rules I posted again… if you don’t finish the game, you don’t get the save. Pretty simple.”
So if you don’t finish the game, you shouldn’t get a blown save either? I mean it is stupid to charge anyone who doesn’t pitch in the 9th, or last inning, with a blown save, when they were never in to close the game.
Murph
June 29th, 2012
11:25 am
I’m confused… MFin, are you arguing about what the rule IS or what it SHOULD BE?
If you’re arguing about what it is, you’re flat out wrong on most of your points. If you’re arguing for change, then sure, yeah, ok.
Efrim
June 29th, 2012
11:25 am
Thanks TP…I didn’t realize Freddie was hitting over .300 over the past 2 weeks +
Nor did I. 34 very good plate appearances. He needs to keep it up with Uggs and Mac slumping.
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
11:26 am
“I didn’t realize Freddie was hitting over .300 over the past 2 weeks +”
What is his on base, .305?
(Rob from SC)
June 29th, 2012
11:26 am
Who was arrested for a handgun?
If we get a window to sign Greinke, then is he worth Teheran?
(Rob from SC)
June 29th, 2012
11:28 am
Heyward is fine, he was extremely over aggresive last night.
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
11:30 am
“If you’re arguing about what it is, you’re flat out wrong on most of your points.”
Nope, I’ve been right in most of them. Guys are getting blown saves in situations where they couldn’t get a save. That is a fact. EOF is 0 for 3 in save situations, yet has had 0 save opportunities. That to me is stupid.
Efrim
June 29th, 2012
11:30 am
If we get a window to sign Greinke, then is he worth Teheran?
No. And why would you want a window to sign a starting pitcher for 20 million a year?
TennesseePaul
June 29th, 2012
11:32 am
What is his on base, .305?
.340. It’s posted on this very same page.
(Rob from SC)
June 29th, 2012
11:32 am
Efrim
Because to win in the playoffs you need an ace
Lew
June 29th, 2012
11:32 am
Rob from SC – A UGA running back got arrested with a gun.
TennesseePaul
June 29th, 2012
11:32 am
Ha!, Except my response was pushed to the next page.
So, it is posted on the previous page.
DAP
June 29th, 2012
11:32 am
MFin04 Guys are getting blown saves in situations where they couldn’t get a save. That is a fact.
no. its 100% false. EOF comes in the 8th with a 3 run lead, its IS a save situation, whether you like it or not. he has to pitch 2 innings to get the save, it doesnt matter if fredi intends to use him to pitch 2 or not.
CB
June 29th, 2012
11:33 am
Greinke has enough baggage to be very concerned, several mediocre seasons and emotional issues on top of that. No to Greinke.
TennesseePaul
June 29th, 2012
11:34 am
Guys are getting blown saves in situations where they couldn’t get a save. That is a fact.
That’s logically impossible. One is not award a blown save unless one is in a save situation.
(Rob from SC)
June 29th, 2012
11:34 am
Lew…
College Football Players seem to feel entitled
CB
June 29th, 2012
11:35 am
Brick wall time. Where’s Soph?
Lew
June 29th, 2012
11:35 am
DAP – You’re correct, but I can see MF in 04’s point – the way bullpens are utilized these days, it’s not often you’ll really get a save opportunity coming in earlier than the ninth.
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
11:36 am
“EOF comes in the 8th with a 3 run lead, its IS a save situation,”
No it isn’t. It only becomes possible to get a save if he pitches in the 9th, if he never gets into the 9th, then it really wasn’t a save situation.
Mixxo
June 29th, 2012
11:36 am
“College Football Players seem to feel entitled”
Yes they do. I’m about sick & tired of thugs in sports.
Sick of it.
Ease
June 29th, 2012
11:36 am
Venters is 0 fro 2 in save opportunities
EOF is 0 for 3 in save opportunities.
Kimbrel is 22 for 23 in save opportunities
Hernandez was 1 for 1 in save opportunities
Martinez is 1 for one in save opportunities.
Medlen is 1 for 2 in save opportunities.
EOF hardly leads the league.
CB
June 29th, 2012
11:36 am
45th anniversary today, guess I better be nice to wife. See you guys.
Lew
June 29th, 2012
11:36 am
Rob – Yeah, but they’re still pretty young and kids in their late teens and early 20’s are not notorious for using good sense.
Efrim
June 29th, 2012
11:37 am
Rob, I don’t think there is one specific way to win in the playoffs.
Bat Masterson
June 29th, 2012
11:37 am
“If you’re arguing about what it is, you’re flat out wrong on most of your points.”
Nope, I’ve been right in most of them. Guys are getting blown saves in situations where they couldn’t get a save. That is a fact. EOF is 0 for 3 in save situations, yet has had 0 save opportunities. That to me is stupid. _ MFin04
How many “holds ” does he have?
TennesseePaul
June 29th, 2012
11:37 am
If we get a window to sign Greinke, then is he worth Teheran?
No. The deal is going to be for Greinke. If there is a window, I’d imagine the only part of it that would be “sweetened” would be the secondary player involved in the deal. Example, if Polished is the main player then the secondary player goes from being (again an example) Tony Pena, Jr. to a Joey Terdoslavich or something of that nature.
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
11:37 am
“One is not award(ed) a blown save unless one is in a save situation.”
Not true. You can get a blown save in an INNING in which you can’t get a save.
Lew
June 29th, 2012
11:38 am
Congratulations CB – Hope you have a great anniversary and glad that your Wife is doing better and can enjoy it.
MFin04
June 29th, 2012
11:38 am
“How many “holds ” does he have?”
Better question, how many “blown holds” does he have?
Dadgum.......
June 29th, 2012
11:38 am
Is it just me or is everyone about sick of seeing defecting Cuban players become millionaires 42 times over. Really Dodgers. Really????
Rock on……everyone should have to go through the same draft process to play in the MLB. Totally unfair to all prospects coming through the ranks. 42 million my arse!
DAP
June 29th, 2012
11:39 am
lew, perhaps the rule book could be amended. but he isnt arguing what ought, hes arguing what is.
(Rob from SC)
June 29th, 2012
11:40 am
Earlier in Spring Training Mark Bowman said there was concern how Delgado or Teheran would handle going back to AAA. I wonder if that explains some of Teheran’s struggles.
Sopheee
June 29th, 2012
11:40 am
Happy anniversary to you and your wife, CB. A gift from me to you both -
http://i49.tinypic.com/343p6ic.jpg
Special edition from spring training.
(Rob from SC)
June 29th, 2012
11:40 am
Dadgum…….
Apparently some scouts say he is only worth 500,000
Bat Masterson
June 29th, 2012
11:41 am
No it isn’t. It only becomes possible to get a save if he pitches in the 9th, if he never gets into the 9th, then it really wasn’t a save situation.
Remember when DOB tweeted this place was unintentionally hilarious the other day? This is why
DAP
June 29th, 2012
11:41 am
MFin04 You can get a blown save in an INNING in which you can’t get a save.
check the rules. a save situation is not confined to an inning.
Efrim
June 29th, 2012
11:42 am
Example, if Polished is the main player then the secondary player goes from being (again an example) Tony Pena, Jr. to a Joey Terdoslavich or something of that nature.
Polished and Terdoslavich for 2 months of Zack Greinke? Where do I sign?
Lew
June 29th, 2012
11:42 am
I’m just not overly impressed with the possibility of a Grienke deal. He’ll be excessively expensive both in what it would cost to obtain him and in extendi