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MFin04
June 27th, 2012
5:06 pm
Where is Shaun, I am running low on my stat fix?
ncscoots
June 27th, 2012
5:06 pm
Every time Tomahawkin would post, bam, I’d have to see it in my inbox. Hell… on… Earth.
Now, if that don’t make you pull for the Mayans, nothing will.
bruce
June 27th, 2012
5:07 pm
Marteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen
CrαZy
June 27th, 2012
5:07 pm
Murph
I think we should let McCann walk… Boscan is a proven weapon don’t you agree!!
Murph
June 27th, 2012
5:08 pm
scoots, the best part is I would let my 6 year old read some of ‘em.
Daddy, what does “we gots the 4-1-1 on dis chump” mean?
Ummmm… it’s spanish, don’t worry about it.
NickB
June 27th, 2012
5:08 pm
ncscoots
unfortunately, due to the lack of available catchers that can hit even a little bit, thats what the team will be looking at.
2014 free agent catchers(that aren’t really old)
John Buck
Jesus Flores
Ryan Hanigan
Brayan Pena
Salty
Geovany Soto
Kurt Suzuki (but he has a $8.5 mill option)
ChattTownBrian
June 27th, 2012
5:08 pm
I feel jabbed at then I’ll jab back. Sometimes I uppercut … when I’m in a bad mood.
She came on here to tell us how pathetic and silly we are by quoting a DOB tweet. OMG, that is chciken shi*.
phil
June 27th, 2012
5:08 pm
The obsession here with this Gattis guy is the one that most baffles me….
I know, i know, but still.
MFin04
June 27th, 2012
5:09 pm
JC Boscan vs Corky Miller, who wins?
Murph
June 27th, 2012
5:09 pm
CraZy, Boscan is the type of talent that you build around. The Braves can’t stop him, they can only hope to contain him, and quite frankly, they really can’t even do that anymore. He’s bustin’ out.
Would you bat him cleanup next season? Any of the top 4 slots would work if you ask me.
SoWeGa Fanatic
June 27th, 2012
5:10 pm
I got it! Bat the pitcher 3rd, and reduce 2 black holes to only 1!
CrαZy
June 27th, 2012
5:10 pm
She came on here to tell us how pathetic and silly we are
Those Damn hysters with their Facebook and Twitter crap!!
ChattTownBrian
June 27th, 2012
5:10 pm
Venice, good. We probably don’t want to read it anyway.
cowdogit
June 27th, 2012
5:11 pm
The braves have a very good team , The problem is the pitchers , they never improve . Before they trade all of their young pitchers , maybe they should try a new pitching coach .
Efrim
June 27th, 2012
5:11 pm
With Chipper Jones ($14 million), Derek Lowe ($15 million), Michael Bourn ($6.84 million) among those coming off of the payroll at the end of this year, the Braves will have some money to play with this winter.
55-60 million committed to 10 players(Uggla, McCann, Hudson, Prado, O’Flaherty, Hanson, Heyward, Venters, Medlen, and Martinez). Easier to think of it in those terms, imo.
cricket
June 27th, 2012
5:11 pm
JC Boscan vs Corky Miller, who wins?
depends on which sport they are playing
Murph
June 27th, 2012
5:11 pm
JC Boscan vs Corky Miller, who wins?
The kid from Life Goes On?
Not cool, MFin.
ChopChamps95
June 27th, 2012
5:11 pm
The obsession here with this Gattis guy is the one that most baffles me….
————————
I have the same thoughts on Cunningham. All I see in him is a switch hitting version of Jose Constanza. Anyone who thinks this guys will be anything more than a 4th OF is brain dead.
CrαZy
June 27th, 2012
5:13 pm
As I see it Boscan is the only untouchable player on the 40 man roster!! Dude will dominate the bigs… Yeah he might be 32 years old, but he’s had less wear and tear so he could catch for 10 plus years. McCann who!!
cricket
June 27th, 2012
5:13 pm
Bat the pitcher 3rd, and reduce 2 black holes to only 1
if Maddon does it, stat heads will not come out of moms’ basements until they can conjure up a stat that justifies this move
Murph
June 27th, 2012
5:14 pm
I don’t know that Cunningham has been spoken of on this blog except for the last day or two.
There was the week last season when CraZy was on a big Ritchie Cunningham kick, but that didn’t last and was a different Cunningham anyways.
NickB
June 27th, 2012
5:14 pm
Cunnigham looks overrated, But you don’t just magically have the kind of power Gattis has shown this year. Kid looks like he has gotten his life together and could be one of those Josh Hamilton kind of stories. He may never hit like Hamilton in the big leagues, but if he keeps putting up numbers like this, he will make the show sometime in 2014 I bet. If he can get healthy, I bet he gets a september callup
CrαZy
June 27th, 2012
5:15 pm
The obsession here with this Gattis guy is the one that most baffles me
Must not baffle you enough to make you realize that most of the Gattis posts are sarcasm…
Murph
June 27th, 2012
5:15 pm
From McFann to BossCAN!
cricket
June 27th, 2012
5:15 pm
anyone surprised at 0 – 0 score in this Euro match?
MFin04
June 27th, 2012
5:17 pm
“anyone surprised at 0 – 0 score in this Euro match?”
Umm, a little, Spain is just so crisp offensively, but if Portugal just shelled up and played for PKs it isn’t too surprising.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 27th, 2012
5:17 pm
I got it! Bat the pitcher 3rd, and reduce 2 black holes to only 1!
Said this already… see below
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 27th, 2012
2:44 pm
I have an idea…. since our 3-hole hits so bad, put the pitcher there. It’s a radical idea!
cricket
June 27th, 2012
5:17 pm
Gattis would have scored 5 goals for either ESP or POR
SoWeGa Fanatic
June 27th, 2012
5:18 pm
crickett, shaun is working on it now.
CrαZy
June 27th, 2012
5:18 pm
Murph Ritchie Cunningham
Happy Days??
SoWeGa Fanatic
June 27th, 2012
5:19 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan, I’m slow.
cricket
June 27th, 2012
5:19 pm
Spain is crisp offensively? dunno, looked like they didn’t even try to score with any urgency before extra time today.
Murph
June 27th, 2012
5:19 pm
Happy Days??
They weren’t very happy when all you would talk about was Ritchie this, Joannie that… at least you left Chachi out of it.
cricket
June 27th, 2012
5:21 pm
2 excellent saves to start shootout
Bat Masterson
June 27th, 2012
5:23 pm
On DOB’s Twitter:
David O’Brien @ajcbraves: Aren’t they always? Unintended hilarity. @Ashville34: @ajcbraves’ blog comments are extra funny today, if looking for midday entertainment.”
Shows what DOB must think of a lot of the stuff that goes on here. And I can’t say I blame him.
Hell, lets ask him.
Hey David O’Brien, what do you think of what goes on here?
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 27th, 2012
5:23 pm
it’s ok sowega
Efrim
June 27th, 2012
5:24 pm
Daniel Hudson has a torn ulnar collateral ligament.
Another one bites the dust.
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 27th, 2012
5:24 pm
ncscoots Man, I think I might have to move the fandom to curling, if the Braves were to swap Brian McCann for Geovany Soto.
Dude, I’d switch to profesional Badmitten before I’d watch the Braves again if they pulled something like that…
Efrim
June 27th, 2012
5:26 pm
We rocked a poor pitcher with a torn UCL – the offense still must stink!
MFin04
June 27th, 2012
5:26 pm
Daniel Hudson sure did know it last night. Wow.
CaptainMudd
June 27th, 2012
5:27 pm
I got my Braves jersey on and an old pair of BB pants…..combined with my white over black spikes that I played in while attending high school…..I am good to go tonight….yes this is another “rehab” game for me and I know I got to loose 10-20 lbs. prior to serious participation….after all, being ‘in-shape’ would enhance my professional appearance especially when I check my account balance on the 30th. So I’ll dedicate myself and set a personal goal–you all will be proud of me–after all…..the support I have received–to appear slovenly kept just won’t cut it on this blog.
cricket
June 27th, 2012
5:27 pm
Spain thru without the best opponent player ever taking the penalty!!!
MFin04
June 27th, 2012
5:27 pm
Ronaldo sure did wuss out there. Wow.
Murph
June 27th, 2012
5:29 pm
Are there statistics kept on injuries and injury types?
Seems that there are more Tommy John surgeries happening in the last 3 or 4 years than in the 10 previous years put together.
Is it that they are better at finding this injury than they used to be, or that pitches guys are throwing are causing it more often… or that today’s pitcher has no grit?
cricket
June 27th, 2012
5:29 pm
I volunteer to guide scoots and McFann on the way to become fans of glorious sport of cricket, if Soto replaces Mac.
btw, badminton > curling
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 27th, 2012
5:30 pm
Daniel Hudson has a torn ulnar collateral ligament.
Another one bites the dust.
Knew it…. another good pitcher goes down. Again, you can never have enough good starting pitching (especially young, controllable ones)
Lemke's Knuckler
June 27th, 2012
5:30 pm
Checked out Minor and Delgado’s splits, looking for some trend as to why they keep getting into trouble. Minor’s problem was pretty apparent, stuck out like a sore thumb. Here’s his splits for 1st, 2nd and 3rd time through the order.
1st: .204 AVG, .626 OPS
2nd: .291 AVG, .915 OPS
3rd: .346 AVG, 1.077 OPS
This shows me that he’s not making the necessary mid-game adjustments to keep hitters from picking out a pitch and scorching it. Not sure this is something that can be fixed easily, just normal growing pains for a pitcher. I’d like to see the difference in his performance when Ross catches him. Not that Mac is a bad catcher, but I think Ross calls a better game.
Now looking at Delgado, I couldn’t really see anything apparent. Overall, he’s pitched pretty good from a statistical standpoint. Consistent throughout the game, no blaring red flag suggesting a problem with his approach. I did notice that of his 14 starts, he received 2 or fewer runs 7 of those starts. So while the 4-8 record looks pretty rough, with a little extra run support, he might be sitting at 7-5 and we’re not so worried about how he’s pitching.
Maybe Fredi can pull Minor after 3 innings every game and bring in Medlen to get it to the bullpen.
CB
June 27th, 2012
5:30 pm
Efrim, Orioles couldn’t hit Beachy when his was torn.
MFin04
June 27th, 2012
5:31 pm
Curling is pretty entertaining to watch.
One Big Dummy
June 27th, 2012
5:31 pm
Aren’t most soccer matches 0-0 and that’s why they have to play foosball instead of soccer to decide who wins the soccer match?
Murph
June 27th, 2012
5:31 pm
We rocked a poor pitcher with a torn UCL – the offense still must stink!
I prefer to think that the Braves caused the injury… the shockwave from the Bourn HR hit his elbow and caused the UCL to shred.
cricket
June 27th, 2012
5:32 pm
Ronaldo sure did wuss out there
come on man, not his decision. coach will be skewered.
btw, they just said that London School of Economics study showed that team shooting 1st has better chance of winning. Really? How much money was wasted on that study and how many Ph. D.s were granted? Shouldn’t that “study” take not more that a day with high speed internet connection?
NickB
June 27th, 2012
5:32 pm
Truth f it is, Bethancourt is unlikely to be ready for the show by 2014.
This leaves the option of re-signing Mac, or going after free agents, or a trade…
Suzuki I like, Salty may cost almost as much as Mac…… Options aren’t very good.
Hence I would stick with Mac, even with his lousy year he has been a top half catcher, bet he improves it top 5 by years end.
MFin04
June 27th, 2012
5:33 pm
“the shockwave from the Bourn HR hit his elbow and caused the UCL to shred.”
Could also be the shockwave from all the Dan Uggla swings and misses?
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 27th, 2012
5:34 pm
Not that Mac is a bad catcher, but I think Ross calls a better game.
No you didn’t!!!
I wonder about this too, Ross seems to do a better job with the younger guys than Mac seems to, IMO. I guess it’s cuz Ross is older and wiser.
MFin04
June 27th, 2012
5:34 pm
“btw, they just said that London School of Economics study showed that team shooting 1st has better chance of winning.”
ESPN the Magazine did that study too.. It was like 52% to 48% I think.
cricket
June 27th, 2012
5:35 pm
i watched lot of curling in CAN, don’t mind it at all. but IMO, badminton is more entertaining.
CB
June 27th, 2012
5:35 pm
Man, you guys worry about something 2-3 years away. I worry about what’s for dinner.
Murph
June 27th, 2012
5:36 pm
I used to think BMac called a good game… until earlier this season and the infamous “6 curveballs in a row” game.
Boscan for catcher, 2013.
nolie
June 27th, 2012
5:36 pm
Todd “Brandon Jones” Cunningham
Murph
June 27th, 2012
5:38 pm
Man, you guys worry about something 2-3 years away. I worry about what’s for dinner.
You don’t know worry until you’ve eaten Mrs Murph’s cooking.
The other night we did “breakfast for dinner” one of my favorite meals. Pancakes, eggs, bacon… should have been awesome.
It ended with me asking “Are eggs supposed to drip like this?”, her storming off, and the 4 year old proclaiming that “This dinner is going to give me a rash!”.
phil
June 27th, 2012
5:41 pm
CrαZy
June 27th, 2012
5:15 pm
The obsession here with this Gattis guy is the one that most baffles me
Must not baffle you enough to make you realize that most of the Gattis posts are sarcasm…
*********
I had managed to notice, but thanks for the clarification…
nolie
June 27th, 2012
5:41 pm
Harrison seems to have learned some control, his WHIP is down a good bit the last year and a half . B4 that he was not all that promising
Efrim
June 27th, 2012
5:42 pm
Man, you guys worry about something 2-3 years away. I worry about what’s for dinner.
I used to think 2-3 years away, until nolie and scoots smacked me down and got me to understand that not all prospects pan out.
Not gonna lie, that was a tough one to swallow.
MFin04
June 27th, 2012
5:42 pm
“I used to think BMac called a good game… until earlier this season and the infamous “6 curveballs in a row” game.”
Was that the walk off homer game where he kept calling for the same pitch?
Lemke's Knuckler
June 27th, 2012
5:42 pm
Murph…”Is it that they are better at finding this injury than they used to be, or that pitches guys are throwing are causing it more often… or that today’s pitcher has no grit?”
The young pitchers that in the 18-26 year range are the product of the “travel ball” phenomenon that took over youth baseball about 10-15 years ago. These kids have been playing baseball year round since they were 8 years old. I’m surprised there aren’t more injuries. The local high school team where I live has 2 kids that have already had TJ surgery.
phil
June 27th, 2012
5:43 pm
Efrim
June 27th, 2012
5:24 pm
Daniel Hudson has a torn ulnar collateral ligament.
Another one bites the dust.
*************
When I heard tight forearm on the postgame radio show last night, you knew then…too bad.
Efrim
June 27th, 2012
5:43 pm
Cunningham is a tweener. Not nearly enough bat to play a corner and not nearly enough glove/range to play CF from what I’ve read.
4th outfielder, I think.
Efrim
June 27th, 2012
5:43 pm
And let me rephrase to 3-4 years away instead of just 2-3….
SMOLTZ 29
June 27th, 2012
5:49 pm
All of our top prospects should be in play! This divison, without the Phillies presence, is there for the taking. Garza, Wandy, Liriano, Romero, and Volquez should be considered. FLAGS FLY FOREVER… PROSPECTS COME AND GO!
Arkansas Transplant
June 27th, 2012
5:54 pm
I’d give Minor straight up today if we could get Greinke but as time passes.. not sure I’d do unless we could work a contract in advance.
Arkansas Transplant
June 27th, 2012
5:56 pm
I’d be more out to spend more money to get Greinke signed and let Bourn walk by offering arb. I think Greinke would be more value over what we’d have in his spot then what Bourn’s value would be over what we could sign in his place.
ChattTownBrian
June 27th, 2012
5:56 pm
I have always scratched my head regarding people obsessing over a year or more from the present. I am thinking near and now.
phil
June 27th, 2012
5:57 pm
Well….
sometimes flags are taken down to be cleaned. sometimes they burn. sometimes they rip and have to be replaced. Sometimes they get stolen.
I’m sure other bad things happen to flags. HORDE ALL PROSPECTS FOREVER!
Arkansas Transplant
June 27th, 2012
5:58 pm
plus if we were to sign Greinke all the while only have to give up Minor.. I’d have to say that would be huge specially if JJ gets back to being pre all-star break JJ.
nolie
June 27th, 2012
6:03 pm
trades don’t take place in a vacuum, other teams would be offering too, not sure if Minor would get him or not. my guess is not
TuffShhhtuff
June 27th, 2012
6:04 pm
Why is FG so reluctant to move McCann and Uggs down to 8 and 9 until they get their act together? If it was anybody else he would. As it is now they can only hurt the team. Let them work it out in the 8th and 9th spots. BTW, how is Uggs is getting all these All Star votes? Do the fans in other towns pay attention? I will answer that. It’s NO!
DS1
June 27th, 2012
6:06 pm
nolie
Then go ahead………… throw in Boscan.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 27th, 2012
6:07 pm
plus if we were to sign Greinke all the while only have to give up Minor
Not happening… There will be at least 1 other legitimate/valuable prospect that has to be thrown in. Like a Salcedo/Ahmed. Might need to be Minor +2 prospects, outside our pitchers, we don’t have many great prospects in the minors.
NickB
June 27th, 2012
6:07 pm
Uggla is gettin the votes because he leads all second baseman in the NL in every category but batting avg…..
and Mac just went 2-5 and drove in 2 runs, and moving Uggla down in the order will only guarantee less fastballs for him and more struggles
Arkansas Transplant
June 27th, 2012
6:08 pm
nolie, probably not but he would be my big ticket item from our side.
Arkansas Transplant
June 27th, 2012
6:11 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan, I’d probably be alright with adding Ahmed but like I said, I’d want to try to get a contract in place first too. But out of Bourn and Greinke, I’d choose Greinke as our big ticket item.
nolie
June 27th, 2012
6:17 pm
I would not give up much of anything for two months only and I’m not sure why Greinke would just sign away free agency for a brand new team
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 27th, 2012
6:18 pm
TheOnlyBravesFan, I’d probably be alright with adding Ahmed but like I said, I’d want to try to get a contract in place first too. But out of Bourn and Greinke, I’d choose Greinke as our big ticket item.
Yes, the contract needs to be in place. The trade is a bad one of done without it. As for going Bourn vs. Greinke, I can understand that. Especially with Bourn about to turn 30, probably wanting 5-6 yrs. I just don’t think the Braves will spend big money on a pitcher when we have a host of young guys waiting in the minors.
MikeInFl
June 27th, 2012
6:19 pm
agreed, nolie. Grienke’s not even gonna want to talk to NYY, LAA, Boston, Texas, Philly? Only way that happens is if we offer him $150 mil.
I think Bowman’s full of it…
ncgary
June 27th, 2012
6:23 pm
greinke is an introverted freak
has a lot of issues
serious issues
can pitch but serious issues
ncgary
June 27th, 2012
6:26 pm
12 12 11 10 10 million for bourn probably wont get it done
but would be a fair offer throw in a 15 million team controlled option buyout at 2.5
nolie
June 27th, 2012
6:26 pm
Mitchell or Robert level issues,gary??
CB
June 27th, 2012
6:26 pm
Hi, ncgary. How is new job working out?
Murph
June 27th, 2012
6:27 pm
Even if it’s just for a 2 month rental, I wouldn’t hesitate to give up Minor for Greinke, extension or not.
Imagine getting to face Minor once or twice a year… guaranteed Braves victories in 2013 and beyond.
nolie
June 27th, 2012
6:28 pm
not sure the union would allow a contract that gets lower over the years instead of higher…..
nolie
June 27th, 2012
6:29 pm
man once you get down on a guy you just love to pound him dontcha??
mark
June 27th, 2012
6:31 pm
I THINK UGGLA OUR #4 HITTER IS NOW UNDER .240 AGAIN, HE IS A GOOD #8 HITTER IF I EVER SAW ONE.ALL OR NOTHING,
nolie
June 27th, 2012
6:32 pm
I love it that folks rip on Uggla about batting average, one of the less significant stats
ncgary
June 27th, 2012
6:36 pm
nolie more mitchelesque
i like the job cb
relate well to the clients
,,,,,,,,,,,lol
third shift is an adjustment though
leftrecursion
June 27th, 2012
6:37 pm
I think if they’re going to go after Grinke they’ll need to let both Hudson and Jurrjens to walk next year. With both of them gone you have some where in the neighborhood of 40-45m million to lock up journey, Grinke and whoever else.
nolie
June 27th, 2012
6:42 pm
i think huddy will be back if he stays effective
Bat Masterson
June 27th, 2012
6:44 pm
Even if it’s just for a 2 month rental, I wouldn’t hesitate to give up Minor for Greinke, extension or not.
Maybe so. Maybe the Braves win the World Series. Then I guess the Braves can find replacement pitchers for Greinke and probably JJ. I don’t know
leftrecursion
June 27th, 2012
6:46 pm
Bourne not journey
McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô:
June 27th, 2012
6:47 pm
Mike Minor stats by catcher 2012 (Ross has only caught him once.)
Randall Delgado stats by catcher 2012