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Johnny

June 27th, 2012
4:17 pm

Sorry, but I don’t think Terdo is a good nickname for a professional baseball player.

nolie

June 27th, 2012
4:17 pm

Pretty cool about Marty McFly

Ralph

June 27th, 2012
4:18 pm

Gattis will be coming in July to take over the 3 hole, have no fear Fruti.

TennesseePaul

June 27th, 2012
4:18 pm

I still don’t have a hover board.

Damn, i was fooled again. Today is not future day. We have 3 more years before we reach there.

Bat Masterson

June 27th, 2012
4:19 pm

Did y’all know Bethenny Frankel was a production assistant on Saved by the Bell?

I didn’t either until a minute ago. But then again I have no idea who Bethenny Frankel is, or why I should, and I’m almost certain I’ve never seen Saved by the Bell. The things I don’t know….. O man

ncscoots

June 27th, 2012
4:19 pm

I’d do that without thinking twice about it.

measure twice, cut once, Danga. :-)

nolie

June 27th, 2012
4:19 pm

Nevermind, that damn CraZy is always ruining everything……

bravesgrl4life

June 27th, 2012
4:20 pm

Okay, so for all of you saying Mac should hit here or Mac should hit there – DO YOU NOT REALIZE THAT THE LINEUP AS IT WAS LAST NIGHT WAS COMPRISED OF HITTING BEASTS??? Well, except for Uggla anyway.

Lay off Mac. He got at least 2 hits last night.

CrαZy

June 27th, 2012
4:21 pm

Proof that the Mayan end of the world is a load of BS. Marty McFly went to October 21, 2015 and the world still existed!!

TennesseePaul

June 27th, 2012
4:21 pm

I feel like a geek for pointing this out but …

No, I’m the geek. Right after posting that I realized the movie showed Marty watching the news, “Cubs top Miami in WS” and immediately thought “the WS is not in June and I know that movie didn’t change the baseball season.” Hence my retraction a moment ago.

Bat Masterson

June 27th, 2012
4:21 pm

I feel like a geek for pointing this out but that is not true it’s a hoax someone photo shopped June 27th into the picture the real date in the movie is October 21, 2015.

Man, what a let down.

Efrim

June 27th, 2012
4:22 pm

I’d do it right now, too. Try to keep Bethancourt out of it. But how about:

Zack Greinke, Kameron Loe and 4 million for Mike Minor, Tyler Pastornicky and Todd Cunningham?

Was also thinking Nick Ahmed or Ed Salcedo in place of T-Pain.

CrαZy

June 27th, 2012
4:23 pm

nolie… every one is good at something I guess!!

Jimmy

June 27th, 2012
4:23 pm

Thanks CraZy. But could you be a little more timley.
I had already made two phone calls.
Now I’m “Back to an Idiot”.

ncscoots

June 27th, 2012
4:23 pm

Did y’all know Bethenny Frankel was a production assistant on Saved by the Bell?

I can beat this, for useless trivia.

In 18th century English furniture-making, to plane the edge of a board until it was straight, flat, and square to the board’s face was to “try” it. Thus, a board that was straight, flat, and square in all respects, and ready for use in building furniture, was said to be “tried and true”.

There ya go. :-)

Ralph

June 27th, 2012
4:24 pm

Lay off Mac. He got at least 2 hits last night.

Miracles do happen

phil

June 27th, 2012
4:24 pm

Mac did get 2 hits….

Time to trade him.

TennesseePaul

June 27th, 2012
4:25 pm

Thus, a board that was straight, flat, and square in all respects, and ready for use in building furniture, was said to be “tried and true”.

That isn’t actually useless as it is a commonly used phrase. However, the Bethenny Frankel point is completely useless.

CrαZyTrαDeMαN

June 27th, 2012
4:25 pm

Minor, Medlen, Pastornicky
for
Greinke

nolie

June 27th, 2012
4:25 pm

I had already made a call too. now I gotta wait 3 years to talk to him again….

TheOnlyBravesFan

June 27th, 2012
4:25 pm

Jimmy

June 27th, 2012
4:25 pm

Bat – “Did y’all know Bethenny Frankel was a production assistant on Saved by the Bell?”

That’s a clown question, bro! :-)

MFin04

June 27th, 2012
4:25 pm

See if Uggla would have hit 4th, they all would have had two hits.

CrαZy

June 27th, 2012
4:26 pm

Now I’m “Back to an Idiot”.

and idiot

ncscoots

June 27th, 2012
4:26 pm

TennPaul, are you calling challenge on “useless”? :-)

TennesseePaul

June 27th, 2012
4:26 pm

Also the point about Bat never seeing an episode of Saved By the Bell is stunning, but useless.

Ward

June 27th, 2012
4:26 pm

Efrim – Thanks for the trade update. I’m all for Greinke. The dude can pitch, and he would bolster the staff for a long time. Think the Braves should also sign Bourn, and try to get Quentin if they can, or Josh Willingham. Both fit budget.

TennesseePaul

June 27th, 2012
4:27 pm

Yes. Yes I am.

Ward

June 27th, 2012
4:28 pm

Efrim – Leave Todd Cunningham out of trade though.

TheOnlyBravesFan

June 27th, 2012
4:29 pm

Zack Greinke, Kameron Loe and 4 million for Mike Minor, Tyler Pastornicky and Todd Cunningham?

Was also thinking Nick Ahmed or Ed Salcedo in place of T-Pain.

Don’t trade my REV…. put Ahmed or Salcedo (think Ahmed more valuable) instead

Jimmy

June 27th, 2012
4:29 pm

CraZy – yeah, I’m and Idiot. I even messed that up.

CrαZy

June 27th, 2012
4:30 pm

The dude can pitch, and he would bolster the staff for a long time. Think the Braves should also sign Bourn, and try to get Quentin if they can, or Josh Willingham. Both fit budget.

And then get Verlander maybe even work a deal out to get Pujols to play 3rd and while were at it we might as well sign Cole Hamels.

brian

June 27th, 2012
4:30 pm

We have no idea what the brewers would want for greinke and we have no idea what the braves would give up.

I would guess that the brewers will try hard to get Teheran and Delgado and the braves will do all they can to keep them. Minor will likely Bethesda main trade piece. Medlen also has high value currently. Cunningham and one of the A pitchers. Those 4 may get it done.

I think the braves, if they get greinke, will still try to sign Bourn long term with the salary cleared by moving McCann in the offseason.

Murph

June 27th, 2012
4:30 pm

I’m going to view any trade that involves 3 out of 4 top 100 prospects leaving a team as a prospect-depleting trade, and nobody will be able to convince me otherwise.

If you want to argue semantics that depletion means the exhaustion of rather than the decreasing of then by all means, have at it.

I just don’t want to hear it when Wren ships Teheran, Vizcaino, Ahmed, and Bethancourt off to Milwaukee for Greinke and Dillard, then is forced to sign a 60 year old Jamie Moyer to a 3 year, $30mil deal because he has no pitchers in the system ready to go in 2014.

TheOnlyBravesFan

June 27th, 2012
4:30 pm

Yea, like Ward says, leave Cunningham out if possible, might need him to play CF for us next year.

NickB

June 27th, 2012
4:31 pm

I would trade Cunningham, his stats this you look awfully lucky as everything else looks the same but his BABIP, which means he’s just having more balls drop for hits, guy I know watches him play and said he wasn’t impressed.

NickB

June 27th, 2012
4:31 pm

“stats this year ” dadburn laptop

Ward

June 27th, 2012
4:31 pm

Throw in Salcedo, and Nick Ahmed that would work for me.

brian

June 27th, 2012
4:32 pm

I still would love to see a future rotation of greinke, beachy, Teheran, Delgado and vizcaino/Hudson/hanson

Back to 5 aces

Ward

June 27th, 2012
4:33 pm

Todd would be a great bench player if needed, and he would do well for next year “iff” Braves can’t sign Bourn. Keep Toddy.

NickB

June 27th, 2012
4:33 pm

The ONLY way the Braves will acquire Greinke is if he agrees to an extension. They will ask for a 72 hr window to negotiate and if he declines, the Braves will walk away.

TennesseePaul

June 27th, 2012
4:34 pm

I just don’t want to hear it when Wren ships Teheran, Vizcaino, Ahmed, and Bethancourt off to Milwaukee for Greinke and Dillard…

Not going to happen anyway.

ncscoots

June 27th, 2012
4:34 pm

Keep Toddy.

Failing that, drink one.

cricket

June 27th, 2012
4:34 pm

What if Heyward had told Fruti he didn’t want to hit 2nd and wanted to bat 3rd or 4th, then what would Fruti have done?

i would ask this guy to actually read the complete story instead of making comments based on some other comments but then i would be talking to a guy who came up with super-smart nickname Fruti and i don’t want to spoil my already not-so-good mood this glum day.

better to just blame everything on Fredi and wallow in perceived superior baseball intellect of one’s self

CrαZy

June 27th, 2012
4:35 pm

brian, If Frank Wren gives up Teheran or Delgado in a deal along with Minor, Medlen and Cunningham for 3 months of Greinke he’s lost his mind.

Ward

June 27th, 2012
4:35 pm

As long as the Braves don’t give up too much to trade for Greinke. He would be the pitcher the Braves have been looking for! All, talk later tonight, and keep hope alive…..Peace my friends, and “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”

Bat Masterson

June 27th, 2012
4:35 pm

Well I don’t know the time line for Saved by the Bell but I’m guessing I was out handling some tried and true lumber, building something for someone, somewhere. Mans gotta make a living.

I think my now being aware of whats her name just goes to show there is no link I won’t click when I’m bored.

phil

June 27th, 2012
4:36 pm

Has Greinke had TJ surgery yet? If not, avoid.

cricket

June 27th, 2012
4:36 pm

Keep Toddy.

Failing that, drink one.

But 1st make sure it is hot

ncscoots

June 27th, 2012
4:37 pm

cricket, come on, man. What can I do to cheer you up?

Stop me if you’ve heard this one. Two blog-posters walk into an internet cafe…

:-)

Jimmy

June 27th, 2012
4:38 pm

Serious questions – How does one become the NL AS Team Captain (Kemp)?
And why does the NL AS team captain get to select who hits in the Homerun Derby?

I read a report that Kemp said that Harper won’t be there, but he will.
Sounds crazy to me.

TheOnlyBravesFan

June 27th, 2012
4:39 pm

The ONLY way the Braves will acquire Greinke is if he agrees to an extension. They will ask for a 72 hr window to negotiate and if he declines, the Braves will walk away.

Of course…. it would be a waste otherwise. All that talent for just 2 months. I wouldn’t like it.

Has Greinke had TJ surgery yet? If not, avoid.

LOL.. don’t think he has.

MFin04

June 27th, 2012
4:39 pm

“If Frank Wren gives up Teheran or Delgado in a deal along with Minor, Medlen and Cunningham for 3 months of Greinke he’s lost his mind.”

Take the deal. Most of the guys aren’t going to be starting long term for the Braves anyways.

Efrim

June 27th, 2012
4:40 pm

Come on, now. Wren isn’t going to trade Teheran for 2 months of Greinke.

Murph

June 27th, 2012
4:40 pm

Not going to happen anyway.

Why not? Vizcaino is hurt, Bethancourt is blocked, Ahmed is blocked… Teheran is the only significant chip in that trade.

Bat Masterson

June 27th, 2012
4:41 pm

Minor will likely Bethesda main trade piece.

Don’t you just love these tablets, smartphones, whatever

Jimmy

June 27th, 2012
4:42 pm

You know what I think,
I think you are all full of crap and I’m going home.

See you good folks later.

GO BARVES!

TheOnlyBravesFan

June 27th, 2012
4:43 pm

Take the deal. Most of the guys aren’t going to be starting long term for the Braves anyways.

Teheran will one day, maybe even next year (unless he gets hurt), Delgado already is starting, expect him to be here awhile, and Medlen is important in the pen right now. Minor’s expendable cuz we’ve got another one right behind him in Gilmartin.

Which makes me ask a serious question: Assuming Teheran isn’t called up this year to finish the season on the big-league club, would the Braves wait until June of ‘13 to bring him up to get the extra year of control?

kerryb

June 27th, 2012
4:43 pm

The Braves had Roy Oswalt sitting at home wanting to be signed by the Braves. They would not make him an offer. Why? Because their ownership wants to nickle and dime this club. They were just awarded 950 million dollars in a lawsuit but you think they will spend any of it to improve this team? I doubt it. I think one of the reasons is that they are all sitting in Denver and are more Rockies fans than Braves fans and only care about this team making a few bucks for them than whether they actually win or not. Every Braves fan should boycott buying anything from QVC (which is owned by Liberty Media) until they invest in this team or sell it to someone who is interested in making it a consistent winner again.

bravesgrl4life

June 27th, 2012
4:44 pm

This is why I prefer to spend most of my Braves talk time anymore with my FB page. The debate there is much more intelligent and coherent, and we tend not to beat dead horses into a pulp. We have honest, sometimes heated, debates over there, but in the end, we all want what’s best for our team.

On DOB’s Twitter:

David O’Brien @ajcbraves: Aren’t they always? Unintended hilarity. @Ashville34: @ajcbraves’ blog comments are extra funny today, if looking for midday entertainment.”

Shows what DOB must think of a lot of the stuff that goes on here. And I can’t say I blame him.

Hillbilly

June 27th, 2012
4:44 pm

Thus, a board that was straight, flat, and square in all respects, and ready for use in building furniture, was said to be “tried and true”.

There ya go.

And without that origin, we wouldn’t have the Tried and True Music label. And without T & T Music, we wouldn’t have Jerry Jeff Walker’s Hill Country Rain album with “Curly and Lil.” And without “Curly and Lil,” I might not have consumed as many beers as I did in College. And if I hadn’t consumed those extra beers in college, maybe I would have avoided a certain young brune… Oh nevermind. Long live Tried and True!

CrαZy

June 27th, 2012
4:44 pm

Murph
Haven’t you heard MacCan is gone after next year… possible even traded for Greinke!!

bravesgrl4life

June 27th, 2012
4:44 pm

that last part should not have been in italics. That’s my thoughts, not part of the twitter post.

Braveone

June 27th, 2012
4:44 pm

From the previous blog which had 1,426 comments, TheOnlyBravesFan led the way with 125 posts. There were 151 different poster names. Here are the Top 25:

Rank Poster Frequency

1 TheOnlyBravesFan 125
2 Efrim 91
3 nolie 87
4 NickB 56
5 ncscoots 52
6 DS1 45
7 MIBravesFan 44
8 Tomahawk Mafia 43
9 MFin04 41
10 Ease 34
11 Bat Masterson 29
12 Murph 29
13 cabravesfan 28
14 jeffrey d 28
15 ChattTownBrian 27
16 BFChris27 24
17 George Stein 24
18 Brava 22
19 McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô: 21
20 CraZy 19
21 Frankie Wren 19
22 bravesgrl4life 19
23 Duke 17
24 TBbravesfan 17
25 ncbravesfan90 17

Murph

June 27th, 2012
4:46 pm

CraZy, I know McCann is gone… but Boscan is in front of Bethancourt, so… yeah. Gattis, too, if he ever gets off the DL.

CB

June 27th, 2012
4:46 pm

Anybody who believes Braves would pay Greinke 20+million is certifiably nuts.

Kentavo

June 27th, 2012
4:47 pm

Just got this press release…

JOHN ROCKER TO PITCH RHETORICAL FASTBALLS

Outspoken former MLB pitcher debuts as exclusive columnist

WND

John Rocker, the Major League Baseball pitcher whose politically incorrect comments to a reporter were remembered long after he retired from baseball, debuts today as an exclusive weekly columnist with WND.

NickB

June 27th, 2012
4:49 pm

Boscan is not in front of Bethancourt (and neither is Gattis as they want him on LF) Bethancourt’ lack of offensive production is what’s in front of him. If he hits in 2013 in the minor’s, Mac may be expendable, but if h doesn’t, Mac is very likely a Brave til 2018.

Jon K. Slusser

June 27th, 2012
4:50 pm

Outside of his eye thing, I felt FREEMAN was well on his way as a 3rd hole guy. I have thought all along that Heyward is a natural 7 hole – which he has been recently. Give Freeman some more time and Chip will be retired after THIS season.

David O'Brien

June 27th, 2012
4:51 pm

Anybody who believes Braves would pay Greinke 20+million is certifiably nuts.

Agreed. Not sure why people think Braves would commit 20-25 percent of their annual payroll to one starting pitcher, but I can’t see it. And I think they’d be making a serious mistake if they did.

JoeFan

June 27th, 2012
4:51 pm

The Braves not only have a hole in the 3 spot but have holes in the bullpen
, on the bench and some days in the lineup when Fredi elects to let some of his top 8 position players rest. A trade for a player that is in the lineup every 5th day isn’t going to get it done. Moving Chipper to the bench, where he spends many of his days already, Prado to thrid and finding a solid LF, plus a quality arm for the bullpen would fill more holes, and be cheaper and easier than trying to land Grienke or Garza.

One Big Dummy

June 27th, 2012
4:51 pm

Greinke doesn’t strike me as someone who could hold up to playoff pressure very well.

kerryb

June 27th, 2012
4:52 pm

Heyward is a natural 5 or 6 hole hitter.

1eyedJack

June 27th, 2012
4:52 pm

I wish I could afford to give my Father a brand new Harley-Davidson Road King Classic motorcycle.

Damn, I wish I still had a Father to give one to. Good kid.

ChattTownBrian

June 27th, 2012
4:52 pm

bravesgrl4life, well then get yo ass out of here and don’t come back! Seriously, if you think you’re more sane, smarter and know what it’s all about than any of is fools I think I can speak for most here and say get to steppin and you won’t be missed.

Murph

June 27th, 2012
4:52 pm

NickB, not true. I look at the teams and where guys are and, indeed, Boscan is in front of Bethancourt.

See, Boscan is at AAA. Bethancourt is at AA. Gattis is at AA, too, but is hurt and penciled in for LF, so that’s arguable.

We all know that after McCann is traded Ross is going to be the starter, probably for many years to come, so… Bethancourt is as expendable as anyone in the organization.

Fish Bisch

June 27th, 2012
4:53 pm

We need Derek Lowe back in the worst way.

CrαZy

June 27th, 2012
4:53 pm

Shows what DOB must think of a lot of the stuff that goes on here. And I can’t say I blame him

I have 2 problems with using the Twitter and Facebook pages….

1. It’s blocked at work
2. I stay away from computers as much as possible at home

AJC should do a better job improving the blog…
1st step get log in ID’s

MFin04

June 27th, 2012
4:54 pm

“Not sure why people think Braves would commit 20-25 percent of their annual payroll to one starting pitcher,”

Or why they would pay 25% or 30% of the teams salary to Chipper Jones and Derek Lowe, but crap happens. :roll:

1eyedJack

June 27th, 2012
4:54 pm

Chipper is the best guy to bat in the 3 hole. That’s why he’s done it for 17 or 18 years. Switch hitter and whatnot. Maybe it’s importance would light a fire under his old butt and make him play with a little swelling or ache.

ncscoots

June 27th, 2012
4:55 pm

1st step get log in ID’s

Too fascist.

CrαZy

June 27th, 2012
4:56 pm

NickB

sometimes it’s easy to see sarcasm when you use logic!!

Murph

June 27th, 2012
4:56 pm

If they improve the blog and add logins, I’m staying up all night just so I can be first. I know the exact login name I’d go with….

Fish Bisch

June 27th, 2012
4:56 pm

Fire Pendleton.

ncscoots

June 27th, 2012
4:58 pm

If they improve the blog and add logins, I’m staying up all night just so I can be first. I know the exact login name I’d go with….

You could probably steal mine, since I’d not likely be using it.

TheOnlyBravesFan

June 27th, 2012
4:59 pm

AJC should do a better job improving the blog…
1st step get log in ID’s

Would like this….

Efrim

June 27th, 2012
4:59 pm

I think Yunel Escobar blocking Elvis Andrus or Brian McCann blocking Salty is a bit different than JC Boscan blocking Christian Bethancourt.

However, he’s so far away with the bat that you wouldn’t have to twist my arm too hard to trade him.

CrαZy

June 27th, 2012
5:00 pm

Murph

It would be wrong to steal names…..

I wonder if anyone is attached enough to their name to buy it back????

NickB

June 27th, 2012
5:01 pm

Murph

Gattis is in AAA

Boscan may be in AAA but he isn’t “in front of” Bethancourt as far as becoming the starter one day goes. Boscan is a 33 year old career minor leaguer. he will not be filling the catching void if Mac leaves. Nor will Ross, he gets exposed as a starter and his numbers don’t hold up in the long term.

If Bethancourt either isn’t ready or never develops, the team’s options at starting catcher for 2014 are Mac or, Soto or any of the other catcher free agents that year.

TheOnlyBravesFan

June 27th, 2012
5:02 pm

1. It’s blocked at work

FB blocked @ my school, but Twitter isn’t…. weird. (Yes, I have great grades, no hindrance to read, but less time to research my stats while @ school)

Efrim

June 27th, 2012
5:02 pm

As with most trades, it’s all going to depend on the cost.

NickB

June 27th, 2012
5:02 pm

I was wrong Gattis IS in AA.

but he isn’t being projected as future catcher due to his lousy glove. Hence the move to LF and only the once a week catching start

TheOnlyBravesFan

June 27th, 2012
5:03 pm

CTB not being very diplomatic I see…

cricket

June 27th, 2012
5:03 pm

thanks scoots, that did it. i’m back to my normal bouncy self.
on the other hand, may be it was just gas ;)

Efrim

June 27th, 2012
5:03 pm

Strained left oblique for Ethier. Not good for the Dodgers.

ncscoots

June 27th, 2012
5:04 pm

the team’s options at starting catcher for 2014 are Mac or, Soto or any of the other catcher free agents that year.

Man, I think I might have to move the fandom to curling, if the Braves were to swap Brian McCann for Geovany Soto. Such a thing would generate some of that chunky industrial-grade.

Murph

June 27th, 2012
5:04 pm

The Braves FB page is a lot of Tomahawkin speaking gibberish… the worst part was, after I joined, it was set to email me notifications by default. Every time Tomahawkin would post, bam, I’d have to see it in my inbox.

Hell… on… Earth.

Efrim

June 27th, 2012
5:05 pm

I think I’d rather go after Greinke than to give up what it’s going to take to get Garza. Greinke is a better pitcher than Garza, imo. And the cost in prospects should be less.

Murph

June 27th, 2012
5:05 pm

Gattis is in AAA

When did this happen?!?

Venice Jim

June 27th, 2012
5:05 pm

I don’t even know where to start with what I want to type right now…

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