David Ross is a much better catcher than B-Mac. Have you ever seen McCann throw out a runner at 2nd? I can’t remember the last he did that. His arm is weak. He can swing some wood though.
J-Hey showing why you can’t give up on young players. I honestly think at the deadline Wren should go for relief help and a bat like Willingham. Hopefully JJ keeps it up because then we can afford to not get a starter. If bullpen help is acquired and Minor continues to underachieve Medlen can move to the rotation. Till then he needs to be in the pen.
Hard to believe Minor was the 7th overall pick in 2009. Has to be the most mentally fragile player in pro ball. Where is Dr. Jack Llewellyn these days?
ChattTownBrain – couldn’t agree more. What’s even more frustrating is how mediocre a baseball player Cody Ross is but he always seem to somehow turn into an absolute stud against us. In fact, I think the word mediocre is being a bit too kind describing his skills. Would love to see him take one in the ribs.
We have one of, if not the best closers in the game, but we can’t get it to him. I really do think the Braves have to make wholesale changes, manager and pitching coach included!
Mike Minor is a joke! It’s a brainless pitcher and Fredi Gonzalez it’s a moron he’s not cappable to manage a little league team …. i dont know why Minor continue pitching after 4-runs inning stupid mothafoker Gonzalez moron
before all stars game >>>> STANDING : NATIONALS METS PHILLIES MARLINS BRAVES
Top of the order is producing.
Mac is still scuffling.
Uggla is Uggla–a 1-4 with 2 k’s machine.
Heyward’s June bloom is a glorious development.
Chipper is wobbling.
The bullpen is teetering.
Minor is Jo Jo.
Kimbrel is awe inspiring.
Equals… good enough to make the playoffs but more is need to win thereafter.
Now maybe some of you will shut up about Medlen being in the rotation. He hasn’t looked good since his two appearances before being sent down to get stretched out. You guys need to face facts. This team is a farce. Starting pitching is erratic, relief pitching outside of Kimbrel really sucks. The bench is the worst, and the regular lineup has McCann, Uggla, and Freeman hitting 3, 4, and 5th to effectively diffuse anything the other guys can string together. This is your 2012 Atlanta Braves. Learn to live with it because it ain’t gonna get any better.
Medlen would not be a good starter btw, I hope this inning helps express this
I doubt he would give us many innings as a starter, I recall his numbers getting worse as the game went on and he didn’t seem to make it to deep in the games which would put the pressure on the pen again. Facts are is no matter how much folks like to blame Fredi if these players were doing their jobs, i.e. hitting and pitching, we would be a much better team. Black hole for a middle of the lineup and Minor underachieving so much its embarrassing. Not to mention the bullpen has been erratic and the bench virtually non-existent.
You want good moves? Has Wren made any good moves? Derek Lowe? Uggla at 12M a year?
We can expect nothing with “Ted Knight” running the Braves front office.
So we seriousy are not even going to experiment with Medlen in the rotation? Please tell me how we could do any worse than Minor’s 6.14 ERA and .270 BAA?
If you’re not using Medlen in the 5th inning, and you’re not using him to help set up late in games, why the hell is he in the ‘pen? It makes no sense. The bottom of the 5th was the perfect spot for Meds. Fredi needs to go..the guy is lost.
@NickB: to not even admit that it would be worth a shot at starting Medlen, and to be so darn defensive about the criticisms of Minor and Delgado, leads me to wonder, what the hell do you have against Kris Medlen?
And Uggla has no stolen bases, only one in the league with zero, has under .200 avg with risp, and covers have little range. But I love his long balls when they don’t count, and some of you do too.
And why is Mat Diaz even on this roster? Do we really have nobody down at Gwinnett that could flail away as hopelessly as this guy? He doesn’t bring any defensive skills, and he has a history of baserunning blunders. So what exactly does this guy bring that justifies taking up a spot on the roster?
Just to let the blog participants know—this game counts as one of my ‘rehab’ games. The Psychiatrist on duty at Community Hospital advised me to watch cautiously, preferably compliant–I shall ignore Fredi’s decisions and MLB managerial prowess.
I thought McCann found his swing. Come to think about it, I thought he figured something out with his swing in August 2011 at Wrigley Field after he hit two homeruns. I guess we can no longer believe what Brian McCann says about his swing.
@phil: guess me and most of the ESPN analysts are all bozos then. And so Delgado and Minor are what – quality starters? Doing something wrong is no crime. But continuing with a failing course of action is stupidity or hard-headed stubbornness.
As he has since August of 2011, Brian McCan’t continues to pee down his leg. Keep hitting him 3rd, Fredi….you know…when there are runners on base. Fredi is an idiot. McCan’t is choke job.
never mind even talking to you, you apparent ignorance about baseball in general , has been duly expressed by your ignorance of what Matt Diaz’s role on the team is, which is to hit left handed pitching, which he has done to the tune of an .801 OPS and a .295 avg.
The fact that he faces righties falls on the shoulders of our inept manager
And my beef with not with Uggla, it is with Frank Wren for wasting a lot of money on a guy that doesn’t give 5M in value. I am sure Uggla is trying his hardest.
And you liking this team is great jeffrey, because you should be pleased with them when they win no more than 84 games this year. Just remember, from the start I stated this team will win no more than 84 and right now, I have doubts that they can win that many.
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phil
June 24th, 2012
3:38 pm
Heyward is raking! But it’s meaningless…
Tomahawk Mafia
June 24th, 2012
3:39 pm
This game is being televised nationally on TBS which meant that the Braves would lose and embarrass themselves.
ray k.
June 24th, 2012
3:39 pm
Mike Minor, you are the weakest link.
Good-bye.
Chipper's Ex-Wife
June 24th, 2012
3:39 pm
David Ross is a much better catcher than B-Mac. Have you ever seen McCann throw out a runner at 2nd? I can’t remember the last he did that. His arm is weak. He can swing some wood though.
Jake W.
June 24th, 2012
3:39 pm
J-Hey showing why you can’t give up on young players. I honestly think at the deadline Wren should go for relief help and a bat like Willingham. Hopefully JJ keeps it up because then we can afford to not get a starter. If bullpen help is acquired and Minor continues to underachieve Medlen can move to the rotation. Till then he needs to be in the pen.
Le Fan
June 24th, 2012
3:39 pm
Lets trade Minor for Bruce Benedict
Two problems solved in one move
ChattTownBrian
June 24th, 2012
3:39 pm
McCann is too NICE to call for a plunking. That is why Ross hasn’t been drilled after all this time.
CaptMudd
June 24th, 2012
3:40 pm
@Bat Masterson…….”When do they stop pitching to Heyward” (?) When he become a bat master, son!
ray k.
June 24th, 2012
3:40 pm
Do the Braves ever win a nationally televised game?
tommykk
June 24th, 2012
3:40 pm
Wren decides the rotation. We need to remember that. Hopefully Wren has had enough .FG takes orders
phil
June 24th, 2012
3:41 pm
Heyward will be slumping again soon enough….calm down everyone.
Efrim
June 24th, 2012
3:41 pm
I swear, if terrible pitching from Polished is a reason that Wren trades Teheran for Garza….I’ll be furious.
Woody Woodward
June 24th, 2012
3:41 pm
Ridiculous Retired. I watched that action carefully on Friday when jj pitched and McCann moved the mitt plenty. And JJ rarely missed that night.
FEAR
June 24th, 2012
3:43 pm
trade minor to arbys for a 5 for 5
Jay Hey
June 24th, 2012
3:43 pm
Hard to believe Minor was the 7th overall pick in 2009. Has to be the most mentally fragile player in pro ball. Where is Dr. Jack Llewellyn these days?
Jerry
June 24th, 2012
3:44 pm
Yeah jeffrey, the allstar got a hit, even if it did bounced something like 10 times before it got through. Wasn’t exactly a screaming liner.
ncbravesfan90
June 24th, 2012
3:44 pm
Do we have any pitching anymore?? I mean really, besides Kimbrel.
Jake W.
June 24th, 2012
3:44 pm
Minor coulda done that….
Chipper's Ex-Wife
June 24th, 2012
3:44 pm
So much for Medlen.
NickB
June 24th, 2012
3:44 pm
Medlen would not be a good starter btw, I hope this inning helps express this
Who Me?
June 24th, 2012
3:44 pm
Nava’s already had one monster shot today, anybody on the bench ever think about walkin’ the little man??
Turtsnap
June 24th, 2012
3:44 pm
Score 3, give 3 back…. score 1, give 1 back. Predictable
TBbravesfan
June 24th, 2012
3:44 pm
DOB what are the stats on the braves giving the run right back after we score?
BC
June 24th, 2012
3:44 pm
ChattTownBrain – couldn’t agree more. What’s even more frustrating is how mediocre a baseball player Cody Ross is but he always seem to somehow turn into an absolute stud against us. In fact, I think the word mediocre is being a bit too kind describing his skills. Would love to see him take one in the ribs.
Hmmmm
June 24th, 2012
3:44 pm
ok, i’m not going to keep watching if they’re just going to keep giving the runs right back
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2012
3:45 pm
Jerry – what about all his XBH that lead NL secondbasemen…were those all dribblers too?
Tomahawk Mafia
June 24th, 2012
3:45 pm
Another run scores against the Braves after two were out and nobody on base. That crap needs to stop, but it has been going on all year.
ChattTownBrian
June 24th, 2012
3:45 pm
Medlen is trying to make Minor not feel so bad. Very good teammate.
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2012
3:45 pm
And do you even like the Braves, Jerry? They got a leadoff single and it souded like you’re disappointed.
phil
June 24th, 2012
3:46 pm
Fire FG!!
JC Brave
June 24th, 2012
3:46 pm
There’s that run!
Hahaha!
Let’s go Braves!
Tomahawk Mafia
June 24th, 2012
3:46 pm
You know, Medlen has been anything but dominant this season.
Chipper's Ex-Wife
June 24th, 2012
3:46 pm
ncbravesfan90
June 24th, 2012
3:44 pm
Do we have any pitching anymore?? I mean really, besides Kimbrel.
*************************
We still got Huddy
Wow
June 24th, 2012
3:46 pm
Other 2nd basemen around the league must suck this year.
ncbravesfan90
June 24th, 2012
3:46 pm
Boston: 8 runs on 8 hits
Atlanta: 4 runs on 8 hits
That happens way to often to this team…not good.
Who Me?
June 24th, 2012
3:48 pm
Painful to watch.
TNScott
June 24th, 2012
3:48 pm
Well, at least Medlin did minimize his damage instead of making the most of the opportunity.
Turtsnap
June 24th, 2012
3:48 pm
We have one of, if not the best closers in the game, but we can’t get it to him. I really do think the Braves have to make wholesale changes, manager and pitching coach included!
TOTAL JOKE
June 24th, 2012
3:48 pm
Mike Minor is a joke! It’s a brainless pitcher and Fredi Gonzalez it’s a moron he’s not cappable to manage a little league team …. i dont know why Minor continue pitching after 4-runs inning stupid mothafoker Gonzalez moron
before all stars game >>>> STANDING : NATIONALS METS PHILLIES MARLINS BRAVES
this team sucks!
Pray for a .500 season fans!
Beantown Bro
June 24th, 2012
3:48 pm
LOLOLOLOLOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLL!!!
ray k.
June 24th, 2012
3:49 pm
Top of the order is producing.
Mac is still scuffling.
Uggla is Uggla–a 1-4 with 2 k’s machine.
Heyward’s June bloom is a glorious development.
Chipper is wobbling.
The bullpen is teetering.
Minor is Jo Jo.
Kimbrel is awe inspiring.
Equals… good enough to make the playoffs but more is need to win thereafter.
Jerry
June 24th, 2012
3:49 pm
Now maybe some of you will shut up about Medlen being in the rotation. He hasn’t looked good since his two appearances before being sent down to get stretched out. You guys need to face facts. This team is a farce. Starting pitching is erratic, relief pitching outside of Kimbrel really sucks. The bench is the worst, and the regular lineup has McCann, Uggla, and Freeman hitting 3, 4, and 5th to effectively diffuse anything the other guys can string together. This is your 2012 Atlanta Braves. Learn to live with it because it ain’t gonna get any better.
Hmmmm
June 24th, 2012
3:49 pm
“Medlen would not be a good starter btw”
it’s not like he could be worse than Minor.
“I hope this inning helps express this”
He gives up a single and a double (to a .342 hitter), how does that express that?
Jake W.
June 24th, 2012
3:49 pm
Medlen would not be a good starter btw, I hope this inning helps express this
I doubt he would give us many innings as a starter, I recall his numbers getting worse as the game went on and he didn’t seem to make it to deep in the games which would put the pressure on the pen again. Facts are is no matter how much folks like to blame Fredi if these players were doing their jobs, i.e. hitting and pitching, we would be a much better team. Black hole for a middle of the lineup and Minor underachieving so much its embarrassing. Not to mention the bullpen has been erratic and the bench virtually non-existent.
Ted
June 24th, 2012
3:50 pm
You want good moves? Has Wren made any good moves? Derek Lowe? Uggla at 12M a year?
We can expect nothing with “Ted Knight” running the Braves front office.
tommykk
June 24th, 2012
3:50 pm
I said 85 wins. The pitching has been the huge disapponitment and the hitting has actually been better than expected
JC Brave
June 24th, 2012
3:50 pm
good enough to make the playoffs
Don’t do drugs.
NickB
June 24th, 2012
3:51 pm
Medlen has a career 4.23 ERA as a starter, he gets overexposed as a starter
TNScott
June 24th, 2012
3:51 pm
Wow Juan goes to the opposite field. McCann are you taking notes.
tommykk
June 24th, 2012
3:52 pm
Minor is a choke artist. completely folds under pressure. Melen will be way better in those situations imo
George Stein
June 24th, 2012
3:52 pm
Another solo shot for Heyward. Send him down.
tommykk
June 24th, 2012
3:52 pm
Did the Braves win a majority of games Braves started? thats all you need to know
tommykk
June 24th, 2012
3:53 pm
Medlen started oops
Jerry
June 24th, 2012
3:53 pm
Good question jeffrey. The answer is no. I like THE Braves. I don’t like THESE Braves. And if you do, then you don’t ask for much.
IlliniBrave
June 24th, 2012
3:53 pm
So we seriousy are not even going to experiment with Medlen in the rotation? Please tell me how we could do any worse than Minor’s 6.14 ERA and .270 BAA?
NickB
June 24th, 2012
3:53 pm
TED
Uggla is leading all 2nd basemen in the nL in WAR and HR’s, xbh, and walks,
shut yer face
njbraves
June 24th, 2012
3:53 pm
If you’re not using Medlen in the 5th inning, and you’re not using him to help set up late in games, why the hell is he in the ‘pen? It makes no sense. The bottom of the 5th was the perfect spot for Meds. Fredi needs to go..the guy is lost.
NickB
June 24th, 2012
3:53 pm
Illinibrave
call up Teheran, or make a huge package and go after Greinke is my plan
JC Brave
June 24th, 2012
3:54 pm
Herp derp swings at ball four!
Tomahawk Mafia
June 24th, 2012
3:54 pm
Bourn is incapable of walking which limits his value a little bit.
ChattTownBrian
June 24th, 2012
3:54 pm
They wouldn’t, but if they ask McCann after the game why no plunking to Cody Ross, Brian McCann would say something like:
“Cody is a great player. He’s passionate and wants to win. I respect that. I don’t see a problem with what he did”.
jeffrey d
June 24th, 2012
3:54 pm
Yeah I like these Braves just fine
IlliniBrave
June 24th, 2012
3:54 pm
@NickB: to not even admit that it would be worth a shot at starting Medlen, and to be so darn defensive about the criticisms of Minor and Delgado, leads me to wonder, what the hell do you have against Kris Medlen?
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2012
3:54 pm
We Will Lose
Bank On It!
Its one of those games where the offense did what they could but Minor pitched like shyt. The E6 was Huge as well
Thank Gawd for Double J coming correct friday nite or the Red Sox would’ve taken us to the Woodshed
Jay Dubu
June 24th, 2012
3:55 pm
Mac, we need a 3 run bomb, or at least a double off the monster.
phil
June 24th, 2012
3:55 pm
Arrrggghhhhhhh!!
Any bozo can see that Medlen is a serviceable major league pitcher, and that’s basically it.
He’s not gonna be a great starter. He’s no closer. He’s a long reliever type.
Hello…..
TOMY FOURNIER
June 24th, 2012
3:56 pm
Atlanta bench have a “VIRUS”..Every body have “diarrea”!!!!
VaBravesFan
June 24th, 2012
3:56 pm
Time for McCann to something
Jay Dubu
June 24th, 2012
3:56 pm
Mac is due.
Jerry
June 24th, 2012
3:56 pm
C’mon jeffrey. You trying to make Uggla look good is like putting a pretty pink dress on a turd. Looks better, but it’s still a turd.
NickB
June 24th, 2012
3:57 pm
Illinibrave
I understand that his value lies in the bullpen, and him starting would probably not be a signficant enough improvement to lose him in the pen.
The A Bomb
June 24th, 2012
3:57 pm
Haven’t posted in a few days…..Been watching the Marlins seeing how bad Guillen is so I could try to develop a small appreciation for Gonzalez.
Didn’t work. They’re both horrible.
And Minor has upside but with him and Delgado back-to-back our winning streaks will never amount to more than 3 or 4.
Ted
June 24th, 2012
3:57 pm
And Uggla has no stolen bases, only one in the league with zero, has under .200 avg with risp, and covers have little range. But I love his long balls when they don’t count, and some of you do too.
TNScott
June 24th, 2012
3:57 pm
Predictable!!!
njbraves
June 24th, 2012
3:57 pm
Mac is useless right now.
VaBravesFan
June 24th, 2012
3:57 pm
Due to foul out. The guy is sinking.
IlliniBrave
June 24th, 2012
3:57 pm
And why is Mat Diaz even on this roster? Do we really have nobody down at Gwinnett that could flail away as hopelessly as this guy? He doesn’t bring any defensive skills, and he has a history of baserunning blunders. So what exactly does this guy bring that justifies taking up a spot on the roster?
Lil' Barry Bailout
June 24th, 2012
3:57 pm
Come on McCann. Do something. Besides throwing out all those runners, I mean.
Jerry
June 24th, 2012
3:57 pm
Nice job there McCann. Stop taking advice from that idiot in the on deck circle.
Tomahawkin
June 24th, 2012
3:57 pm
1-10 hitting RISP, Our middle of the order has sucked Donkey Ass the last 2 weeks
tommykk
June 24th, 2012
3:58 pm
Mac making it easy to see Betancourt as the future unfortunately
phil
June 24th, 2012
3:58 pm
At least Mac fixed his swing a week ago….
His 3-30ish numbers since then prove it.
T-Dawg
June 24th, 2012
3:58 pm
Need SOMEONE to step up and get the big game changing hit.
TBbravesfan
June 24th, 2012
3:58 pm
1 for 10 today with RISP. this is common play for braves.
CaptMudd
June 24th, 2012
3:58 pm
Just to let the blog participants know—this game counts as one of my ‘rehab’ games. The Psychiatrist on duty at Community Hospital advised me to watch cautiously, preferably compliant–I shall ignore Fredi’s decisions and MLB managerial prowess.
Trey
June 24th, 2012
3:58 pm
Such a great stand pat team.
Brian McCann
June 24th, 2012
3:58 pm
Mac, we need a 3 run bomb, or at least a double off the monster.
Sorry, I didn’t see your post.
Tomahawk Mafia
June 24th, 2012
3:59 pm
I thought McCann found his swing. Come to think about it, I thought he figured something out with his swing in August 2011 at Wrigley Field after he hit two homeruns. I guess we can no longer believe what Brian McCann says about his swing.
Ted
June 24th, 2012
3:59 pm
And lets not forget with one more strikeout Uggla will lead the 2b majors in strikeouts.
Great value at 12M.
ChattTownBrian
June 24th, 2012
3:59 pm
McCann isn’t going to carry the offense. Only thing he carries is a bad set of eyes and a Dunkin’ Donuts gut.
mpimentel
June 24th, 2012
3:59 pm
Geez mccann
IlliniBrave
June 24th, 2012
4:00 pm
@phil: guess me and most of the ESPN analysts are all bozos then. And so Delgado and Minor are what – quality starters? Doing something wrong is no crime. But continuing with a failing course of action is stupidity or hard-headed stubbornness.
Le Fan
June 24th, 2012
4:00 pm
Isnt there another place Fredi can tighten his belt on?
Charlie
June 24th, 2012
4:00 pm
As he has since August of 2011, Brian McCan’t continues to pee down his leg. Keep hitting him 3rd, Fredi….you know…when there are runners on base. Fredi is an idiot. McCan’t is choke job.
NickB
June 24th, 2012
4:00 pm
Illinibrave
never mind even talking to you, you apparent ignorance about baseball in general , has been duly expressed by your ignorance of what Matt Diaz’s role on the team is, which is to hit left handed pitching, which he has done to the tune of an .801 OPS and a .295 avg.
The fact that he faces righties falls on the shoulders of our inept manager
Lil' Barry Bailout
June 24th, 2012
4:01 pm
“You can never have enough runs in this ballpark”
—————
I’m guessing the Red Sox do, against the gutless Atlanta offense.
Mr. Roberts
June 24th, 2012
4:02 pm
Didn’t you hear Simpson say McCann is hitting a HARD .239 at the beginning of the game?
Ted
June 24th, 2012
4:02 pm
And my beef with not with Uggla, it is with Frank Wren for wasting a lot of money on a guy that doesn’t give 5M in value. I am sure Uggla is trying his hardest.
IlliniBrave
June 24th, 2012
4:02 pm
@NickB: sorry that I am not as brilliant as you. Are you always so damn condescending? Or is it just when you are on a blog behind a computer?
Jerry
June 24th, 2012
4:02 pm
And you liking this team is great jeffrey, because you should be pleased with them when they win no more than 84 games this year. Just remember, from the start I stated this team will win no more than 84 and right now, I have doubts that they can win that many.