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nolie
June 26th, 2012
10:40 am
Francisco certainly does not have a rep as a good glove or of any range. Not sure why that would change just because he is a Brave
he gas a strong arm and a lot of pop and basically nothing else.
even when he played regulatly in the minors he made Francouerian amounts of outs.
That is unlikely to get anything but worse in the bigs.
I’m having a real hard time figgering out why anybody would defend the guy like you have been
David O'Brien
June 26th, 2012
10:40 am
Now THIS I find surprising, at least the hits part. From ESPN Stats & Info: Derek Jeter turns 38 today. Jeter has more hits, runs, and a better BA than Pete Rose did at the time he turned 38 years old.
nolie
June 26th, 2012
10:42 am
well he has a higher batting average than Pete and has spent a lot of time at the front end of the lineup and has missed little playing time
CaptMudd
June 26th, 2012
10:47 am
….Divine Honours to Pete Rose.
Lew
June 26th, 2012
10:49 am
nolie – If he has no value, then WTF is he even in the bigs much less the Braves?
NOt every player in MLB is going to be a high average, high OBP, high OPS player who walks more than he K’s and to believe that that’s what you’re going to get throughout a 25 man roster is just idiotic.
The Dude was known to NOT be a great defensive player or high production type when he came over. Dusty Baker said as much – that he needs regular playing time.
He hasn’t gotten that playing time, though when he did he performed. I just question the vitriol aimed in his direction – I’m not supporting him because I feel he’ll be a great player, just that we got what we knew we were getting because he was who was available and who we could afford. Blaming the player for being what he’s always been is just awfully douchy, IMO.
nolie
June 26th, 2012
10:52 am
I don’t see that he performed except run into a few homers, which is what he brings to the game. my least favorite kind of hitter on top of being a poor defender. just no my cupa joe
nolie
June 26th, 2012
10:53 am
If the Braves thought he had performed they would have used him a lot more than they did when Chipper was out, instead they used Constanza who pretty much stunk too
Efrim
June 26th, 2012
10:53 am
Hudson vs. Hudson tonight. I like our chances.
jeffrey d
June 26th, 2012
10:54 am
Much better than when it’s Minor vs. Minor
David O'Brien
June 26th, 2012
10:55 am
I own a gas drinking 5.3 L V8 8-12 MPG Silverado… After $500 per month on gas I would consider trading for a Prius. I could use all the extra $$$ to prove my manliness!! I could by a boat or a motorcycle or some four wheelers… — CraZy
Or, you could just stand pat and continue proving your manliness with the “gas drinking 5.3 L V8 8-12 MPG Silverado”
nolie
June 26th, 2012
10:55 am
I don’t “blame” players for what they are, I’m explaining what they are and why I don’t want them here
Lew
June 26th, 2012
10:56 am
No nolie – You don’t think so because you never bothered to look. I refer you to the numbers I posted earlier because I DID look.
It’s a small sample size but only because that’s all that’s been given to him.
Is he going to be Joe Superstar? Not likely. Is he going to be a solid everyday player with deifiencies? Maybe, but not if he just comes off of the bench. But does he deserve the vitriol he gets around here? No.
Efrim
June 26th, 2012
10:56 am
I’d still rather have J.J. Hoover than Juan Francisco. Hoover might be able to help in the bullpen right now so Medlen could pitch in the rotation.
Lew
June 26th, 2012
10:58 am
And whether you or others want them here or not is a moot point of the highest degree. WE have who was a vailable and could be fit within our salary limitations. YOu want great players at every position? Follow the Yankees who spend more for their starting infield than the Brves do for their entire team.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 26th, 2012
10:59 am
Francisco might have some value, but sitting on the Braves bench isn’t where he needs to be. We can do better than him. He doesn’t have a future here, and his SO/BB ratio is horrendous. When he makes contact, he can hit it far, but he usually doesn’t make contact. Don’t we have enough K-Machines on our team?
Jimmy
June 26th, 2012
10:59 am
Should help the budget…right?
NY jury awards over $950 million to Liberty Media
http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/ny-jury-awards-over-1464400.html
jeffrey d
June 26th, 2012
11:00 am
awwwww snap!!
JoeFan
June 26th, 2012
11:00 am
Sad thing about the Braves waiting and waiting to make a trade is that they ware wasting games where the new pieces or pieces could have impact. As far as adding Mejia, he would certainly on paper help an awful bench. And if he is a force offensively, toss him out in LF, move Prado to 3B and let Chipper come off the bench. The idea is to win games by putting your best lineup on the field day in and day out and Fredi just doesn’t seem to get it.
Murph
June 26th, 2012
11:01 am
Francisco is 3-18 in June… all singles. 6 K’s, 0 BB, 1 SF.
Hard for a guy to show what he can do with such limited playing time… but also hard to get behind a guy who does so little with the opportunities he’s given.
I’d rather have Francisco on the roster than Wilson, though, if given the choice. But that’s not saying much.
jeffrey d
June 26th, 2012
11:01 am
Think of all the oversized contracts we could get with $950 million
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 26th, 2012
11:02 am
If the Braves thought he had performed they would have used him a lot more than they did when Chipper was out, instead they used Constanza who pretty much stunk too
This. If Francisco is a good player, and HE BACKS UP CHIPPER, for crying out loud. He’s the backup 3B. Why didn’t he get to play when Chipper was hurt? Why? Instead, Constanza who didn’t make the 25man roster was the answer to play every day.
I’d still rather have J.J. Hoover than Juan Francisco. Hoover might be able to help in the bullpen right now so Medlen could pitch in the rotation.
I would’ve liked JJ Hoover in the pen. Better than Livan, Martinez, and Varvaro
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 26th, 2012
11:04 am
Think of all the oversized contracts we could get with $950 million
Can we have just 25 mil per year of this? Please?
Ease
June 26th, 2012
11:06 am
Would love to see Francisco play short, if Wilson was gone.
Might be good for a laugh or two.
jeffrey d
June 26th, 2012
11:06 am
And not just players. We could get translators for the Spanish speaking players, a caterer for McCann, and a fog machine for when we come up to bat.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 26th, 2012
11:06 am
And if he is a force offensively, toss him out in LF, move Prado to 3B and let Chipper come off the bench.
Mejia can’t play left…
The Braves originally signed Mejia out of his native Venezuela and he began his career as an outfielder before his massive size and bulk, listed at 6′5″, 245 pounds, forced the team to move him to first base.
Jimmy
June 26th, 2012
11:07 am
OK, let me guess.
McCann will bat third again with Heyward 6th?
There can be only one reason Jason isn’t in the third spot, and I don’t know what it is.
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 26th, 2012
11:08 am
Well, with us needing a SP, maybe Juan can fill in? He’s such a good player….
DAP
June 26th, 2012
11:08 am
priuses are fine, as long as you dont think you are saving the planet by driving one.
CB
June 26th, 2012
11:09 am
Gee, I think the Snuggie conversation was better than the Francisco conversation.
jeffrey d
June 26th, 2012
11:10 am
What about Francisco in a Snuggie?
Jimmy
June 26th, 2012
11:11 am
Well, if Mejia can only play first, package him, Minor and Chipper’s wife for Willingham.
Lew
June 26th, 2012
11:11 am
I’d rather have a better back up than Francisco, too – just don’t get the hate for the Dude. I’d like a better all around back up at short than Wislon – just don’t get the hate for the Dude. Wish we could do better than HInske – but where’s the hate for him? It’s not there and it shouldn’t be – any more than it should for JF and Wilson.
These players are on the team because we could affor d them and they were available. It would be great if this were not the case – if we could go pick up whoever we wanted regardless of the price. But it is what it is and they are who we have. Can we find better for what we can afford? If we could, I have no doubt Wren would pull the trigger and do the deal.
CB
June 26th, 2012
11:12 am
I prefer not to have that thought.
Murph
June 26th, 2012
11:12 am
priuses are fine, as long as you dont think you are saving the planet by driving one.
Getting 35mpg+ is great, but when they are doing 25 in a 50 and causing a long line of traffic to build up behind them, they are probably causing more fuel burn in the long run than if the driver had gone with a Maxima or something a little more fleet of foot.
cricket
June 26th, 2012
11:13 am
priuses are fine, as long as you dont think you are saving the planet by driving one.
thinking that is fine, as long as you don’t go around bragging about it
Jimmy
June 26th, 2012
11:13 am
Francisco in a Snuggie, driving a Prius, saving the planet.
jeffrey d
June 26th, 2012
11:15 am
thinking that is fine, as long as you don’t go around bragging about it
Bragging about it is fine, as long as you don’t walk around in huge V-necks
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 26th, 2012
11:15 am
While Hinske’s not been producing, he has a track record. JF doesn’t. Wilson is a mentor, he’s not our biggest problem yet. What JF doing, mentoring Chipper? Doubt it. He just sits on the bench, hardly getting playing time, even when the starter in front of him gets hurt.
I know I keep bringing that up, but it seems significant to me. When Mac goes down, I don’t see the Braves bring up another catcher to play so Ross can still backup. Yet they did that with Juan. I wonder why….
Lew
June 26th, 2012
11:16 am
If incessant bitching could cure all of our ills (as it appears many believe)., we’d be living in the lap of luxury by now and VaBravesFan wouldn’t have had to tell his boss to kiss off.
Bat Masterson
June 26th, 2012
11:16 am
There can be only one reason Jason isn’t in the third spot, and I don’t know what it is.
Lets see how Heyward manages not getting pitched to. Will he take his walks and still be locked in enough to hammer mistakes? My guess is it’s about time to find out.
TennesseePaul
June 26th, 2012
11:16 am
Jeter has a whopping 11 more hits than Pete Rose by their 38th birthdays.
Pete went on to play another 8 more years. I’d be very surprised if Jeter hung on that long.
Lew
June 26th, 2012
11:17 am
Hinske has hit .218 since the All Star break of 2010. Some track record.
cricket
June 26th, 2012
11:17 am
they are probably causing more fuel burn in the long run
not if EVERYONE is driving priuses
Murph
June 26th, 2012
11:18 am
Francisco in a Snuggie, driving a Prius, saving the planet.
CraZy in his man-mobile and white tank top, spilling his beer, leaning over to pick it up, causing said Prius to run off the road and over a cliff.
CB
June 26th, 2012
11:18 am
Lew, we need to distribute Snuggies on the blog. Maybe it would change a few attitudes around here.
ncscoots
June 26th, 2012
11:18 am
For a PH such as Hinkse, the difference between hitting .230 and .280 for the year is about six hits. One hit a month.
These guys are just like relief pitchers, your mileage may vary from year to year. They don’t get enough appearances to be held to the same standard as an everyday player with 650 PAs.
DAP
June 26th, 2012
11:18 am
go ahead. hug the polar bear. he will then eat your face off.
Jimmy
June 26th, 2012
11:19 am
Pete is betting Jeter won’t get his record.
CrαZy
June 26th, 2012
11:19 am
President Obama lands at Hartsfield-Jackson
Go away GA has enough problems!!
Murph
June 26th, 2012
11:20 am
not if EVERYONE is driving priuses
What good is saving the planet if you can’t go faster than 25mph?
Bat Masterson
June 26th, 2012
11:20 am
priuses are fine, as long as you dont think you are saving the planet by driving one.
The planet doen’t need saving. It’ll die out in a few billion, or whatever it is, years regardless. People will be gone long before then.
DAP
June 26th, 2012
11:21 am
CraZy in his man-mobile and white tank top,
thats called a wife-beater, murph.
Ease
June 26th, 2012
11:22 am
Gee, I think the Snuggie conversation was better than the Francisco conversation.
That’s cause you don’t own a Francisco (to keep you warm).
cricket
June 26th, 2012
11:22 am
seriously? politics here?
Lew
June 26th, 2012
11:22 am
CB – I think that there are plenty here who have passed the point where Snuggie Therapy would help.
Mike Berry
June 26th, 2012
11:23 am
DOB…
Just saying if you were managing tonight. What would your lineup look like??? Don’t you think Freddy has to move Uggla out of the 4 or 5 hole and move Heyward up to at least 3rd or 4th. Uggla is killing rallies from the top of the order and Heyward is player of the month with a .500 something batting average and only has 5 rbis batting too far down in the order.
Ease
June 26th, 2012
11:23 am
Murph must still be living in 1992…
CrαZy
June 26th, 2012
11:23 am
priuses are fine, as long as you dont think you are saving the planet by driving one.
F the planet (just kidding)… I’m certainly no tree hugger!! I say drill drill drill I just want cheap gas!! I’d never drive a Prius, but I do wish I could save some of the $500+ I spend on gas for my truck every month.
I bought a Cruze for my wife… It gets 28 MPG which is pretty good I guess!!
Mike Berry
June 26th, 2012
11:25 am
make that J-Hey is player of the week.
CrαZy
June 26th, 2012
11:25 am
seriously? politics here?
I’d say the same thing no matter the party!! So I wasn’t making a statement for or against!!
Sorry never again!!
DAP
June 26th, 2012
11:26 am
i cant believe the slide Miami has been on. reminds me of our june from a couple of years ago.
Lew
June 26th, 2012
11:27 am
I’ve got an 04 Chevy Malibu Max (basically a Checvy Saab) with 131,000 miles on it and it still gets 27MPH. I have no car payments.
keylargo
June 26th, 2012
11:27 am
Something is going to happen with the weather today. It’s blowing straight out of the south at about 20-25, so that storm is going somewhere new. Looks to me like most of Florida will clear out today.
Lew
June 26th, 2012
11:27 am
MPG – It will go 90 MPH (that I’m aware of)
Murph
June 26th, 2012
11:27 am
Murph must still be living in 1992…
I didn’t want to insinuate that CraZy beats his wife, so I purposefully withheld the wife-beater label when describing his attire.
Jimmy
June 26th, 2012
11:27 am
“Murph must still be living in 1992…”
Murph’s real name is Frank Reardon.
cricket
June 26th, 2012
11:28 am
USA USA USA
Anthony Davis, who will likely be taken as the No. 1 pick in this Thursday’s NBA Draft by the New Orleans Hornets, is getting down to business — literally.
Davis, known for his connected eyebrows, trademarked the phrases “Fear The Brow” and “Raise The Brow” earlier this month.
“I don’t want anyone to try to grow a unibrow because of me and then try to make money off of it,” Davis told CNBC. “Me and my family decided to trademark it because it’s very unique.”
keylargo
June 26th, 2012
11:31 am
Crazy – get a diesel pickup. Then you can get 20 mpg and pay $4.50 a gallon for diesel. What a deal.
Jimmy
June 26th, 2012
11:31 am
Not rooting against the Braves, but I want to see what this kid Bauer has Thursday. His delivery looks exactly like Lincecum. Without the long hair.
grammar polic
June 26th, 2012
11:31 am
Anthony- It’s My family and I decided-
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 26th, 2012
11:32 am
Not rooting against the Braves, but I want to see what this kid Bauer has Thursday. His delivery looks exactly like Lincecum. Without the long hair.
I want him to have a good 6 innings, but have to be taken out then. Then we beat up their pen. (then the kid doesn’t have to take a loss)
Ease
June 26th, 2012
11:34 am
Was referring to the “Prius only goes 25mph” comment.
Since I am in Atlanta rush hour every day, I see plenty, and we even test drove a couple last November.
The stereotype is about as valid as Francisco being a solid bat off the bench.
Murph
June 26th, 2012
11:34 am
Screw that, i hope the Braves knock Bauer out in the first with an 8 run inning… let him do well against other teams.
Jimmy
June 26th, 2012
11:34 am
I nearly have a uni-brow. It’s kinda thin in the middle.
Most folks are bi-brow. But it isn’t really unique.
A tri-brow is, however. Go with that look.
Bat Masterson
June 26th, 2012
11:35 am
I hope the Braves knock his ass out in the first without him recording an out. 8 runs, leaves with the bases loaded
Efrim
June 26th, 2012
11:36 am
Lets see how Heyward manages not getting pitched to. Will he take his walks and still be locked in enough to hammer mistakes? My guess is it’s about time to find out.
Something has to give. It’s been 70 plate appearances of madness for Heyward. Has only 3 walks in that span and an OPS damn near 1200. Gotta imagine something will change.
Bat Masterson
June 26th, 2012
11:36 am
Damn ……..
Ease
June 26th, 2012
11:38 am
Mark Bowman @mlbbowman
Equal with those of Chipper joining the starting rotation @JustinMain what’s the odds Ted Turner would buy the braves back
So Chipper is taking Minor’s or Delgado’s spot? Wow, totally did not see this one coming.
Jimmy
June 26th, 2012
11:39 am
Murph – always a hater!
I want to beat him too. Just alot of hype about him and I want to see if it’s real.
ncscoots
June 26th, 2012
11:40 am
Gotta imagine something will change.
Where do you pitch him? This month, anyway, he’s commanded all four quadrants, with damage. Hard to walk him if you can’t find a spot where he’ll take.
Lew
June 26th, 2012
11:40 am
I’d consider batting Heyward cleanup with Uggla hitting fifth. Doubtful that they’ll pitch around Heyward to get to Uggla.
Efrim
June 26th, 2012
11:40 am
RHP Lucas Sims debut with the GCL Braves: 2 IP, 0 hits, 0 ER, 0 BB’s, 3 K’s. So far, so good.
Bring him up here and plug him into the rotation.
Jimmy
June 26th, 2012
11:41 am
Ease – That would fit Chipper’s play schedule just fine. Play every five days. And then for just six innings.
Relax Bat. I won’t mention Bauer’s name again.
Efrim
June 26th, 2012
11:43 am
Good point, scoots. He really wanted to walk vs. Atchinson up 3-1 during that last at bat on Sunday and Atchinson made two great pitches with a backdoor breaking ball.
If I was a pitcher, I’d go inside fastball vs. him with outside breaking stuff. But he is killing both sides of the plate, especialy outside breaking stuff that he is hammering to left field(Red Sox series).
jeffrey d
June 26th, 2012
11:44 am
People will be gone long before then.
How do you figure?
Murph
June 26th, 2012
11:44 am
Murph – always a hater!
I like seeing rookies come up and do well, too… just not against the Braves.
Harper can come up and break every record in the book, so long as the Braves own him… same thing with Bauer. I’d love to see the kid pitch like The Freak, so long as he gets shelled by the Braves.
The rookie I’m most anxious to see right now is Rizzo. I hope this time around he can stick in the majors and put on a display like he has at AAA the last couple of years.
Bat Masterson
June 26th, 2012
11:44 am
I’m pretty laid back today, Jimmy. Blue skies and a nice little breeze. Just want the Braves to beat up on some teams at home.
Efrim
June 26th, 2012
11:44 am
Love our GCL Braves lineup: http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=g_box&gid=2012_06_26_bljrok_brarok_1
Finally, some young talent at the lower levels to get excited about. Hasn’t felt that way in a long time.
jeffrey d
June 26th, 2012
11:44 am
I hope the Braves knock his ass out in the first without him recording an out. 8 runs, leaves with the bases loaded
and he’s on Mitchell’s fantasy team
TheOnlyBravesFan
June 26th, 2012
11:45 am
Efrim: If he’s healthy and able to locate, bring him up. Gotta be better than Minor at this point
Efrim
June 26th, 2012
11:46 am
The rookie I’m most anxious to see right now is Rizzo.
I’m still awaiting the arrival of Rangers SS Jurickson Profar and to see what the hell the Rangers are going to do.
If people haven’t noticed, Elvis Andrus is having a very, very good year at the plate, on the bases and with the glove.
cricket
June 26th, 2012
11:48 am
BEAT BAUER
ncscoots
June 26th, 2012
11:51 am
If I was a pitcher, I’d go inside fastball vs. him with outside breaking stuff.
You better get that inside heater around his shoulder blades, then. Anything lower, he’s been hospitalizing. Away, well, Sabathia hurt him with sliders, but if any other lefty throws him that one, it better have run and tilt. And a righty better have a fine changeup, if you want to throw him that one, and he better be fooled.
He won’t keep this up (no human can), but right now that sumbee is locked and cocked and full of bad intentions.
Efrim
June 26th, 2012
11:51 am
BEAT BAUER
Should also be a fun kid to watch.
Efrim
June 26th, 2012
11:54 am
I haven;t seen many throw him changes with any sort of success. Like you said, CC was the only one who made him look foolish in June – and he does that to pretty much everyone.
George
June 26th, 2012
11:55 am
David O’Brien
June 26th, 2012
10:40 am
Now THIS I find surprising, at least the hits part. From ESPN Stats & Info: Derek Jeter turns 38 today. Jeter has more hits, runs, and a better BA than Pete Rose did at the time he turned 38 years old
********************************
Does this mean DEREK will pass ROSE in total basehits for career? I hope so.
Efrim
June 26th, 2012
11:55 am
Arizona is 14-6 in their last 20 games. Of course, the majority of the wins came vs. San Diego, Colorado, Chicago, Seattle and Oakland.
cricket
June 26th, 2012
12:01 pm
wow!! George did not blame Fredi for anything in a 2 line post. what is happening to the world as we know it?
Jimmy
June 26th, 2012
12:02 pm
Efrim – Yeah, Profar is another young “can’t miss”. I want see what they do with that situation.
Jimmy
June 26th, 2012
12:03 pm
cricket – If Jeter does not get the record, it will be FG’s fault.