Aching Chipper gets another rest day

BOSTON – Chipper Jones was 9-for-26 with two homers against Aaron Cook, who started Sunday for the Red Sox. The fact that Jones was out of the lineup and didn’t try to talk his way into it said something for how the 40-year-old third baseman was feeling.

“Yeah, I’m hurting today,” said Jones, who didn’t cite anything specific, but a general soreness after playing the previous two games — Friday as designated hitter and Saturday at third base. “[Manager Fredi Gonzalez] was going to give me the day off regardless.”

Since returning June 10 from his second stint this season on the disabled list, Jones has played (and started) in 10 of 13 games, and been given one day off in each of the past three series.

He is 7-for-37 (.189) with two doubles and two RBIs since returning from the DL, the doubles and RBIs coming in his past three games.

Slumping Uggla: Walks not much fun

Dan Uggla’s past month has been a microcosm of the Braves’ season, shifting from surge to slump without much of anything middling between.

After hitting .316 with five homers, 16 RBIs and a .789 slugging percentage in 12 games from May 26 to June 9, the Braves second baseman has hit .136 with no homers, one RBI and a .150 slugging percentage in his past 13 games, including no extra-base hits or RBI in his last 10.

“It sucks,” he said of going from streaking to skidding. “You’re rolling, you’re rolling, you’re rolling, then all of a sudden you have a game where you’re just locked in and you feel great for the next couple of days [but] get nothing out of it. The next thing you know, you’re battling. You’re getting pitched tough, and the one mistake [pitch] you might get you foul it back instead of hitting it over the fence.”

If it were another hitter, it might be more of a mental drain. But hot and cold streaks aren’t new to Uggla. Braves fans learned that in his first seaseon with the team in 2011, when he hit .173 with 12 homers and a .568 OPS in 86 games through July 4, then .301 with 24 homers and a .982 OPS in 75 games the rest of the season.

This latest slump has been a blip by comparison, so far. Neither Uggla nor Gonzalez is concerned.

“I don’t worry about him anymore,” said Gonzalez, Uggla’s manager for 3-1/2 seasons with the Marlins. “I’ve been with him so long, and everybody saw what he did last year.”

Uggla said during the last homestand, there actually was some middle ground, when he was on base via walks.

“The first [eight] games of the homestand, I probably got on base more just from walks,” said Uggla, who drew 12 walks in those eight games, and had three hits and 11 strikeouts during the homestand.

“I walked four times one game,” he said. “Then it was just like, oh God, where are the hits?”

Gonzalez said, “At the end of the year, all the [usual] numbers will be there.”

Uggla is walking and whiffing at the highest rates of his career, with 50 walks and 82 strikeouts. He leads the Braves in both categories as well as RBIs (42), and his 11 homers is tied for the team lead with Jason Heyward. Uggla began Sunday tied for third in the NL in strikeouts, only two behind leaders Corey Hart and Rickie Weeks.

He is hitting .244 — 13 points below his career average — but with a .370 on-base percentage that would be the highest of his career. Uggla is on pace for 112 walks and 184 strikeouts, which would easily surpass his career highs of 92 and 171.

He’s also on a pace for 25 homers, after topping 30 each of the past five seasons, and 94 RBI, three above his career average.

“[Walking] is not near as much fun, and it’s still frustrating when you’re not getting those base hits,” he said. “Or you might draw a walk to set up a double play…. But I’m going to get hot again. I’d just rather it be sooner than later.”

Hudson vs. Hudson

Tim Hudson (5-3, 3.88 ERA) faces Arizona’s Daniel Hudson (3-1, 6.60) in Tuesday’s series opener at Turner Field, after an off day in the schedule Monday. Tommy Hanson faces the Diamondbacks’ Trevor Cahill (6-5, 3.47) on Wednesday, and Jair Jurrjens starts Thursday against an Arizona pitcher still to be determined, in Jurrjens’ second start since returning from Triple-A.

108 comments Add your comment

Ms. Shirley

June 24th, 2012
6:42 pm

It has to end now. Bye, bye Braves. Who give a blank about first.

NorCal Brave

June 24th, 2012
6:52 pm

Braves all gave well-deserved praise to the offenses they faced in NY and Boston. Flip side of it is our offense has the potential to be right there with any team’s. Unfortunately the 3-4-5 hitters have been having a “who can get in a bigger slump” contest. And we don’t have an everyday player at 3rd base.

Whiskey River

June 24th, 2012
6:53 pm

Who gives a blank.blank about the subject matter. He’s done. Go to the house and stay there.

tvsportscaster

June 24th, 2012
6:57 pm

The Diamondbacks have announced that AAA pitcher will be the Major League debut of Trevor Bauer.

74bravesjersey

June 24th, 2012
7:09 pm

Bring up Gattis start in LF, let him THUMP in the lineup, prado stays at 3rd, make a deal for youkilis to backup 3rd &1st, PH, lose wilson, no bat, – Parazz spells wilson, let chipper get his acculades off the roster, or ph duties, Diaz,possibly Hinski(still one of my favs, but….) or let francisco go, spell them w/Durango OF,speed,PH; & Constanza OF,speed,PH; Call ups & a trade or so can round up the roster, no dead weight.

74bravesjersey

June 24th, 2012
7:10 pm

Gotta find that spark; whattaya do?

bostonbravo

June 24th, 2012
7:13 pm

tired of Chipper, Uggla etc. pack up..go home.

Da Mick

June 24th, 2012
7:14 pm

Personally, I don’t consider batting DH and playing at third for one game to be playing 2 out of 3 games. If you’re aching from that, you probably should be sitting on the couch next to me watching the games.

Not to start another Chipper flame war, but this is the guy who didn’t think he needed to go to the minors to get tuned up for major league play, but did so for a couple of games because his manager insisted (Chipper said with a smirk). Now all we keep hearing about is how “fast” the game is to him coming back from the DL. As it’s been for so many years now, there’s so much bs coming out of him with regard to his injuries and his comebacks. He’s selfish, he’s dishonest, and the only reason he’s playing this year is because he didn’t want to share the retirement spotlight with Cox last year.

You have to respect his career achievements, but he’s tarnishing his legacy, in my opinion, and has been for some time.

74bravesjersey

June 24th, 2012
7:15 pm

Prado can be our 3rd B-guy or make the deal for youki, just don’t give away our good core of youngins. I said it before, Let Gattis be our middlebrooks, not by position, but by Thumpin’. Doesn’t K too much for powerhitter, good plate discipline. Had a good ST w/ our socalled hitt’n guru’s.

74bravesjersey

June 24th, 2012
7:17 pm

Gattis & youki!, Gattis & youki! please!

Lee Maye

June 24th, 2012
7:18 pm

Gattis has not played in about 7 weeks. On DL with wrist injury. Just got out of cast. Parraz, likewise, has not played in 2 months. On DL. Youkilis was traded to White Sox. Would be and continues to be a good idea to have Costanza up, but Braves are not going to release either Hinske, Diaz, Wilson, or Francisco. They think they are good.

Brava

June 24th, 2012
7:24 pm

I love Chipper and appreciate all that he’s done in his career with the Braves and never thought I’d say this, but enough is enough. He signed a contract to play baseball, not take three or four days off a week. If he’s too hurt to play a reasonable number of games, he should do the right thing and go to the house. Between his situation and the erratic pitching from the two young starters, it seems this team is always in chaos.

Larry

June 24th, 2012
7:29 pm

I will not get into the personal life stuff to substantiate my assertion, but clearly with Chipper we are seeing a man with little or no honor selfishly collecting enormous checks knowing he has emotionally already retired from the Braves. For him to such at the expense of the team and its players that have made him unimaginable wealth for nearly everyone is a shame and disgrace.

If he has even an ounce of integrity, honor and character, he’d man up and tell the Braves “thank you for all you’ve given me, but I can no longer take your money while knowing my heart, mind and body can no longer get the job done. I am announcing my retirement at the All Star break to give this team and its fans an opportunity to afford a player or two the can both depend on and possibly be the difference in securing a playoff birth.”

Don’t hold your breath for this man…shameful!

BravesfaninWis

June 24th, 2012
7:30 pm

I have been a Chipper Jones fan since the day he step foot in the Braves clubhouse, but I will have to say that he should consider retiring right now and not the end of the season. Why should the Braves be paying him that much money play this little?

It’s almost the All Star break and he has played what, 40 games now? He missed damn near half the season by either being on the DL, or “resting”. Right now he is on pace to play about 90 of the Braves 162 games, hardly what I would consider worth 12 or 13 million this year. That money could be better served somewhere else. His time as a effective 3rd basemen, or a hitter is gone. Right now all Chipper is to the Braves is a high priced burden. He needs to retire so the Braves can spend that money on younger more productive players.

RWill

June 24th, 2012
7:31 pm

(From older blog): To quote an Eric Church song, Chipper’s just trying to “relive those glory days” a little too much off the field, iykwim…

Angel Wings

June 24th, 2012
7:33 pm

Hello everyone.. New here. Just graduated fim police academy and got my first assignment in a place called Chico Calif. Don’t know anybody here Just got internet so thought I would come on and make friends with my fellow Brave lovers. If you don’t want to talk to a lady cop, I understand. I am just trying to be nice.

smithyred

June 24th, 2012
7:40 pm

I agree with the last two entries, I’m a big fan to but don’t think Chipper wants to play. He just wants to sit and collect that big pay check. So, what if he hurts, I hurt constantly but I keep on working and have not missed any time because of how I feel. I bet he does not play but 5-6 games on the next homestand. Get off your butt and get out there and help this team win!!!

Also, the Braves use to be very strict about their appearance, what happened!!

beone

June 24th, 2012
7:41 pm

Chip, you’re done buddy. Take it to the house.

shorty

June 24th, 2012
7:43 pm

Fire Fredi Bring in a manager who gives a darn!

phil

June 24th, 2012
7:44 pm

Fire no one!!

dawg4u

June 24th, 2012
7:47 pm

Chipper will be well rested for retirement. @ Angel Wings – I don’t like to bash the Braves but their ineptness makes it so irresistible not to. Welcome to Braves nation – we’re not as mean spirited as Philly fans (who are the most knowledgable in the game I might add) but Fredi G just brings it out in most of us diehard Bravo fans. Still, the Braves aren’t in bad shape regarding the division which is wide open for anyone to take this year.

shorty

June 24th, 2012
7:47 pm

Good Luck Angel Wings! From A North Carolina Braves Fan.

Panacea When I Peea

June 24th, 2012
7:48 pm

All of Uggla’s numbers might be there at season’s end but so will all of the Braves losses in the many games he went 0-4 hitting 4th. He needs to be consistent. Break out the video footage when he was hitting well. I’m sure he’s doing something different to cause the slump. Earth to Greg Walker…

Del

June 24th, 2012
7:49 pm

Drop Chipper and somehow trade McOut!!

Angel Wings

June 24th, 2012
7:51 pm

Thank you shorty

Panacea When I Peea

June 24th, 2012
7:51 pm

So will Braves trade for Youkilis to replace Chipper ?

64 year Braves fan

June 24th, 2012
7:53 pm

Was at Fenway Park for the game today. McCann & Uggla in the number 3 & 4 spots are killing the
Braves offense. Time to move Heyward & Simmons up in the batting order. Uggla should bat 7th & McCann 8th. Minor looks terrible. Belongs in Gwinnett. Also why did Fredi allow Minor to pitch to Cody
Ross when it was still a 2 run ballgame. I new another home run was coming. Should have brought in Medlen or Durbin to keep the game close. White Sox got Youkilis for peanuts and Braves can use a
right handed bat.

Fats

June 24th, 2012
7:58 pm

DH Jones from here on out. Is that asking too much??

snoopy

June 24th, 2012
8:02 pm

yea FATS, its going to be tough considering we are done with interleague play..SMH!!!

Panacea When I Peea

June 24th, 2012
8:11 pm

Wren needs help running the Braves. He is inept.

Panacea When I Peea

June 24th, 2012
8:12 pm

DH is American League only. Maybe PH Chipper from here on out…

Panacea When I Peea

June 24th, 2012
8:13 pm

Uggla,Chipper,McCann killing the lineup. Allmaking about $40 million bucks collectively stinking it up.

Bobby Dews

June 24th, 2012
8:14 pm

Shirley, you can’t be serious.

Whiskey River

June 24th, 2012
8:21 pm

Send Chipper to the House NOW!!!

Earl

June 24th, 2012
8:34 pm

Da Mick, I agree with you 100%. To me it was almost like he was trying to belittle Freddie about sending him to the minos for a rehab. And then, when he was asked in a interview what he accomplished at Rome, he gave that smirky grin and said “not much”. Very selfish player and it is beginning to show through.

southgabrave

June 24th, 2012
8:39 pm

Welcome Angel Wings!

I don’t have “the answer” for what is wrong with the Bravos, but….. The first thing I would do as GM is FIRE FREDI G!!!! NOW!

Why is Simmons still hitting 8th? Simmons, Bourn, Prado and Heyward are the only persons hitting right now. The first three have been doing so for a while now. Chipper has not looked interested since he was hit by that liner . One of my favorite players, (other than Prado) McCann has not produced since his oblique pull last year. He has hit the ball square more lately, but right at every shift he has seen. He can not go to left center or left and that will be his downfall. His defense is not the top of his game. Uggla is to streaky. Freddi Freeman is having all kinds of injury problems. First the eyes and then the finger. The Bravos have absolutely no bench. Fransisco and Wilson should both be released. Hinski, well if he can’t pinch hit why is he on the team? He can not play OF and Prado is a much better back up at 1st. Diaz well he is not exactly a defensive whiz either, but he can hit lefty pitching…..well so-so anyway.

If you talk about pitching, we lost or best starter in Beachy. I said it to start sprngtraining and I will say it again. Beachy was our ace. Other than Hudson nd Hanson, you can toss and coin and guess what you will get from a starter any given night. One good start, two bad ones.

The Braves have 2 guys with All-Star potential nd Uggla isn’t one of them. Bourn,and Kimbrell and possibly Prado, but there are too many better OF’s than Prado.

My Line-up

1) Bourn – cf
2) Simmons -ss
3) Prado – 3b
4) Uggla – 2b
5) Heyward -rf
6) Freeman – 1b
7) McCann – c
8) CAN ANYONE IN THE STANDS CATCH A FLY BALL? – lf
9) pitcher

Really don’t we an OFer in the minors that can hit a little and play some d?

Happy Retirement to the future HOF Chipper

Mike from the coast

June 24th, 2012
8:40 pm

I am a diehard fan and don’t write any of the negative junk on here. BUT for the time being it is time to move Uggla out of the 4-hole.

southgabrave

June 24th, 2012
8:43 pm

I need to use that spell check

southgabrave

June 24th, 2012
8:48 pm

I am a diehard fan also and will continue to follow and watch them all year. I am only stating the obvious with the Braves. There are guys on this team that shouldn’t be. Some of them are there because of what they have done in the past.

If we are going to lose why not do it with fresh exciting young blood? Maybe it will turn out to be better than expected.

John w

June 24th, 2012
8:57 pm

Move McCann out of the 3 hole please! Chipper you are really hurting this team. Retire now! You haven’t been a dependable player for several years. Whoever made the decision to give you this last contract should be fired. I think it was probably a knee jerk reaction by our executives to try to make up for Glavine and Smoltz.

Angel Wings

June 24th, 2012
9:03 pm

Thank you everyone for being so nice to me. Good nite God Bless you. Go in Peace. Go Braves!!!

hivpositive

June 24th, 2012
9:06 pm

Bad News Braves out there! Are the Braves ever going to trade McCan’t, or still pretend he is the best catcher in baseball, and sign him to a ludicrous contract?

bostonbravo

June 24th, 2012
9:09 pm

YES Fredi you moron ..we DID see what Ugfgla did last year!!

SC Brave

June 24th, 2012
9:09 pm

Lets face it, these issues all come from the front/top office all the way down. There is really no money to go and get anyone worth while. They are concerned whether they can keep McCan (who cares) or Bourn (needed) next year, why add someone else now. The veterans are really stinking the place up, Chipper won’t play, McCann is out to lunch or something, and all the bench players are horrible. As for the positions players I could see calling Constanza up, releasing Wilson, moving Prado to 3rd and forcing Chipper to PH if he wants to stay. For the pitching, tough it out and stick with the young guys. I think they are capable but they do need the toughness and confidence in their stuff Maybe they need to be forced to stay out there and embarrass themselves. They do have to get over the hump. Probably the best thing for us on the blog is to start talking about next year.

Mike from the coast

June 24th, 2012
9:21 pm

Agree on the young pitchers SC Brave, Glavine took a ton of lumps at the start of his career. He was 9-21 in his first two years as a Brave with an ERA of 5.54 his first year and 4.56 his second. What may hurt this year could pay big dividends down the road.

ToeMeetsLeather

June 24th, 2012
9:23 pm

Already looking forward to next year myself. I knew 2012 was a lost cause when Chipper anounced he would be back. With a limited payroll, you have to get value with every penny spent. With Chip’s pay and Lowe’s buyout, you could put a fork in this season in spring training. Next year is the year to get back in the hunt. Prado at third, Lowe’s 10 mil for a number two starter, and Chip’s money for a superstar left fielder. Hopefully Wren can make the right moves so October ball returns to the Ted in 2013.

JNick

June 24th, 2012
9:53 pm

How about an article on why McCann is slumping? I bet Uggla has more than 4 RBI this month…

phil

June 24th, 2012
10:29 pm

Angel Wings
June 24th, 2012
9:03 pm

Thank you everyone for being so nice to me. Good nite God Bless you. Go in Peace. Go Braves!!!

*******
spare us….

Fats

June 24th, 2012
10:31 pm

When we had interleague games to play, FG was not using Jones as the DH like he was suppose to. Never made sense why he didn’t tell Bones he was going to be DH in all interleague games and be done with it. Anyway Jones does start to sound like some brat that just wants to collect a big check for little or nothing. Bones sure aint no Cal Ripkin and he doesnt do the honorable thing like Larry Bird refusing to take millions from the Celtics to be on the roster. Hope Jones proves me wrong

phil

June 24th, 2012
10:40 pm

Me thinks you loons give up on Chipper too soon. I’m a bit down on him right now for sitting so much, but he’s earned the right to go out as he see fits, or as he has too given his physical situation…

He’ll heat back up. We haven’t seen the last of the old man yet.

Yogi Berra

June 24th, 2012
11:07 pm

Braves Management has failed, Wren has failed as GM and Fredi is in Phil’s fire him club.
Wren misjudged the players and pitchers on this team and should be held responsible.

Yogi Berra

June 24th, 2012
11:14 pm

No-one ever earned the right to to go out as they please. What successful business would let its works go out as they please? He has a contract for 14 plus million that gives him a right to hang around.
BS on doing as u please crap.

southgabrave

June 24th, 2012
11:14 pm

Phil
Spare us….

BTW Chipper hasn’t the right to take up a roster spot if he doesn’t produce. He was well paid over the years.

Maybe he will get health and produce but right now he isnt playing but 50% of the time.

trophymom

June 24th, 2012
11:51 pm

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JoeJoe

June 25th, 2012
12:07 am

Had chipper hung it up last year the Braves would have had his salary to spend on some hitters.

Lee Maye

June 25th, 2012
12:56 am

Braves have a lot more money coming off the board than you guys list.

Chipper 13 mil; Lowe 10 mil; Bourn 6.5 mil; Diaz 2 mil; Hinske 2 mil; Wilson 1 mil; trade or release JJ 5 mil; that would be about 40 mil.

2013 coming off board: McCann 12 mil; Hudson 12 mil

Trade Uggla if you can find a taker: 13 mil more.

Do all of those things: 77 mil. Ought to be able to find a LF, CF, C, and 2B for 77 mil and a pitcher.

Gattis ought to be able to play LF and C; Terdo hitting .355 at MS and another OF hitting .330 at MS. Costanza needs to be brought up.

Please retire, Chipper, at the break. Don’t wait for another knee injury.

David the Shepherd

June 25th, 2012
2:13 am

Love me some Chip & appreciate all he’s done…BUT dude, RETIRE!!! If you can’t perform consistently & help your teammates out, do what’s best & free up some $ so we can hang in there & get some pieces to help us get to October. Pretty selfish if you don’t.

MikeY

June 25th, 2012
5:45 am

@Lee Maye, you are right. But we also have Durbin, Hernandez (we still owe his salary for 2012), and Ross coming off for 2013. Also, we will owe arbitration raises to Prado, O’Flaherty, Hanson, Heyward, Venters, Martinez, and O’Flaherty in 2013. So those arb raises will be (my guess) about $8M-$10M. And obviously, we will need backup middle infelder, catcher, and backup outfielders/corner infielders. We might have players in the minors that could be brought up…but I would really like to see us re-sign Ross, Durbin, and Diaz. And we will owe McCann an added $333K in 2013 (and I assume we will agree to McCann and Huddy’s 2013 options, at $12M and $9M, respectively).

I agree. we will have a lot of money freed up for 2013. But we will have some big holes to fill (starting CF, starting LF, and about 5 backups or relief pitchers). I do look forward to getting Vizcaino back, that could make up for losing Durbin.

MikeY

June 25th, 2012
5:47 am

And it is time for Medlen to join the rotation. We still have 3 very iffy starters in Minor, Delgado, and Jurrjens. If those 3 could tag team 2 starts every time though the rotation, with some combo of starts/long relief, it might work. The kids seem to have troble the second/third times thru the lineups.

MikeY

June 25th, 2012
5:54 am

I repeated O’Flaherty and omitted Medlen in the list of 2013 arbitration rasies the Braves will owe in 2013. My bad. Need coffee.

Glenn

June 25th, 2012
7:52 am

I have been a Chipper fan for years, but every other day is not the way to get his timing down and slow the game down. His body has broken down and will just not respond anymore. He is hurting his team more than helping. I also agree on McCann he is a 5 or 6 spot hitter not a 3.

alex

June 25th, 2012
8:01 am

@phil he’s “earning” millions… he’s cooked,done,roasted….thanks and goodbye

the truth...

June 25th, 2012
8:39 am

@ToeMeetsLeather

Problem with your scenario….got to something about McCann and his chunk of change…..got to have production from all your $19 million contracts.

Say what you will the Uggla deal was really no more than a wash. Losing Infante, an everyday producer for a one week a month slugger was at best a wash. It also took Prado away from his all star position.

I’d put Uggla in left……….like it or not, or Uggla finds an American League short porch to pepper.

Uggla…..$13.2 mil?
McCann….$11.5 mil
Chipper…$14
Lowe…$10…..

Add it up boys and girls…..that $50 milion is the real problem..Those four are not producing for that dollar value.

Hudson is another $10 million though his production is pretty steady and value to the young pitchers is another factor.

ESPN’s salary analysis shows the Braves at $82 million plus…..the math doesn’t work….

a fan

June 25th, 2012
9:00 am

can’t argue re Chipper, he’s hurting us. Also not sure the braves will pick up McCann option, try and trade him to American league.

Goliath

June 25th, 2012
9:29 am

Some telling statements in there. He says it himself, he CAN’T HIT tough pitchers… AT ALL. It’s not that he gets fewer hits, he gets NO HITS. He gets ALL his hits against bottom dwellars. Big Deal.

Also, why are the Braves using .240 hitters in the 3rd and 4th spot?

Don

June 25th, 2012
9:41 am

Why not release him and get rid of the distraction?

TomTomClub

June 25th, 2012
9:48 am

Package McCann, Minor, Delgado and a minor leaguer to Seattle for Felix Hernandez-RHP. Bring up Boscan to split time with Ross behind the plate. Instant upgrade to our starting pitching and team defense!

reckingball

June 25th, 2012
10:45 am

Frank Wren……Just go ahead and get rid of everyone on this team, and hire some new players that never lose a game, already.
What could be more simple than that?

Whiskey River

June 25th, 2012
11:02 am

@reckingball. I know that i am not supposed to talk to you. But Dude that is hilarious.LOL

Largo

June 25th, 2012
11:06 am

Can’t make up my mind, do I want Chipper on the bench doing nothing or in the game. . . doing nothing.

Blackberry Cobbler

June 25th, 2012
11:31 am

I’ve been a huge Chipper fan for a long time. He’s a first round HOFer. But I have to agree with others here, he’s hurting the team right now and it tarnishes his legacy to not be able to play and play effectively. He needs to go ahead and retire now.

The Sertoma Kid

June 25th, 2012
11:47 am

I think our hopes of making the playoffs went right down the toilet when we lost Beachy. Sad, but seemingly true.

Marvin Mangrum

June 25th, 2012
12:19 pm

Angel Wings, how come a Braves fan?

Largo

June 25th, 2012
12:27 pm

Chipper, you have been a great player, emphasis on “have been.” Why do you cheapen your career by hanging on just to hear applause as you travel around the team cities? Is it pride, the money or what? You have to know that you aren’t helping the team. No matter what they say, they have to be glad when you’re gone. You’re in the way of any plans that can be made to strengthen the team. Why do so many great players hang on after they become “bums?” Retire now while fans can still remember you as being “great.”

Whiskey River

June 25th, 2012
12:39 pm

@Marvin Mangrum I haven’t seen her on here. Maybe you should ask her later.

John w

June 25th, 2012
12:39 pm

Well said Largo!!

TPic

June 25th, 2012
12:51 pm

Largo, you present quite the paradox. I’ll go with on the bench; that puts someone else in the game who might be able to contribute….Instead of someone who during last season’s collapse blamed everyone else (young pitchers, bench, etc.) while hitting a robust buck 70 the final two weeks of the season. Someone should inform the third baseman that leadership begins with personal accountability. Hoss – I still laugh when I hear that. Never was there a more inappropriate nickname for a player.

varoadrunner

June 25th, 2012
12:54 pm

@TomTomClub – You know, that’s NOT a bad idea. Mac is a great teammate but lacks on his “physical” defense. If it happened, I’d prefer to the American League. lol

Whiskey River

June 25th, 2012
12:55 pm

The Boss just hung around for the gifts he received and all the glory he can get. Also $$$$ was nice. He has no intention of helping this team.

Kentavo

June 25th, 2012
12:59 pm

Looks like we’re going to get the MLB debut of the D-Backs top prospect Trevor Bauer on Thursday – OK Braves staff, please do some scouting.

TPic

June 25th, 2012
1:08 pm

I haven’t done the math yet, but….Several weeks ago the TV clowns were touting the fact that Jones, C. (I refuse to call a 40 yr old man his nickname) was only of just five players to have a .300 BA, .400 OBP and .500 SLG rate. Personally, I think you can make up any unique stat for about any player but this would be quite an accomplishment. He currently sits at .401 on base percentage. Given his ego and infatuation with his numbers, what are the odds he bows out before that drops below .400?

Whiskey River

June 25th, 2012
1:13 pm

@TPic He won’t bow out until his glory trip is over. Also got to have money to pay soon to be ex..

TPic

June 25th, 2012
1:18 pm

Whiskey River, as much as I deride him, I’m not sure it’s about the money in his case. Someone did mention earlier that he didn’t want to share the Please Get The Hell Out Cox Tour and unfortunately, I agree. The man has earned well over $150 million in his career – the wallet is full, the ego has yet to be fully bloated.

Whiskey River

June 25th, 2012
1:36 pm

@TPic It will take part of the year to collect all his gifts. The rest of the year is to get all the glory he can find. As far as he is concerned the team can go to H….. BTW he will probably pull a hamstring collecting his paycheck and be out 6 weeks

Brave New World

June 25th, 2012
1:59 pm

Chipper in 2012 is what it is. He is a Hall of Fame player who is 40 years old. We will likely get 250 – 300 AB’s from him, flashes of former greatness, and many off days. No disrespect to Chipper, but the Braves will be better off with Prado as the everyday 3rd baseman, and a solid left field pick up for 2013 and beyond. GO BRAVES!

smithyred

June 25th, 2012
2:41 pm

There is no since in writting in for Chipper to go to Allstar Game. He would just say he is to sore, why go!!! Let younger guys go and contribute.

Chuck

June 25th, 2012
2:45 pm

I don’t mind Chipper taking a victory lap. Our pitching staff rarely puts together consecutive solid outings, the bullpen is iffy at best, and the rest of the team are really not that much better than he is right now. Everybody is hitting below .250 except Bourn, Prado, Heyward (just barely), and Simmons (many rookies do this for a while, until pitchers get a book on them). Chipper took less pay for years so the Braves could field a better team. Now that they’re full of youngsters that will probably be much better in a couple of years, it puts people in the seats to go see him one more time.

MikeY

June 25th, 2012
2:49 pm

It is Monday…and thankfully, the Braves are off today and thus cannot lose.

Chuck

June 25th, 2012
2:49 pm

Unless they turn Minor into a head case, he will be a very good pitcher. He just needs to mature with his control a little in the 4th and 5th inning. That comes later for some guys. Patience would be easier in the minors, but doesn’t look like we have that luxury right now.

Whiskey River

June 25th, 2012
2:51 pm

Baloney Save your money Stay home. Nobody wants to see a guy that gets sore just waving to crowd,

reckingball

June 25th, 2012
2:59 pm

There is only one thing that Chipper needs to get him going again, and back into his groove.
More Geritol, it will straighten him right up.
go braves

MikeY

June 25th, 2012
3:31 pm

Just pulled these stats from the mlb.braves.com site. Minor’s ERA by inning:

1 5.79
2 3.86
3 1.93
4 9.64
5 9.69
6 8.10
7 2.70
8 5.40

And for Delgado:

1 3.86
2 7.43
3 3.46
4 3.46
5 2.38
6 10.50
7 3.00
8 0.00

Seems like Minor starts OK, then hits a wall in innings 4, 5, or 6. And Delgado is pretty good till inning 6.

Need Medlen to start!

Brave New World

June 25th, 2012
3:34 pm

Chuck: Agree with you about Minor – he has proven that he has the stuff to be a major league pitcher, but these bad innings are important for the development of young pitchers. We might as well add Delgado into the mix as well.

Jay Dubu

June 25th, 2012
3:46 pm

Of the Braves 72 games this season, Chipper has been in 39 of them:

33 – starts at #rd
4 pinch hits
1 late inning substitution
1 DH

So he has in effect, played in less than half of the games.

Spud Webb

June 25th, 2012
4:58 pm

Not sure why everyone is shocked that chipper is missing a lot of games. He’s old…and simply cannot do it anymore. Nobody on this blog thought he was going to play 140 games did they? Much less 120!!! It’s a sad part of sports…not knowing when to walk away. Good luck chipper, I’m sad to watch this play out like it has.

Spud Webb

June 25th, 2012
5:01 pm

Chuck, chipper took less when??? when was he offered more money from another team? I’m so tired of hearing that. If thats true, no worries because the 14 mill he’s been raking the past few seasons MORE than makes up for the years he supposedly took “less” to help the braves stay competitive????

fredp23

June 25th, 2012
5:43 pm

Braves don’t really want to pull a trade. Youklis was available while they were in Boston but they probably didn’t even attempt to deal for him. Regarding Chipper……it’s time to hang up the spikes and let Prado handle 3B full time. Then trade for a right hand hitter to play LF.

Von Trapp

June 25th, 2012
10:21 pm

If we can get an AMERICAN LEAGUE team to give us a quality hitter, why not trade Bones Jones now so we still have a chance to WIN this thing?? NO player is above the TEAM…….No player. He is a distraction now. :(

Hosea Williams

June 25th, 2012
11:01 pm

Have enjoyed and cheered for chipper his whole career, playing every 3rd game and getting paid 13 mill is not helping the braves. Call it chipper, or start playing more games.

klmbbfan

June 26th, 2012
8:09 am

Chipper, the Braves had hit their stride when you failed to make a play you would have made in the years past and you end up on the DL. The Braves go on a 8 game losing streak after that. The Braves come out of the slump and win 6 straight you come off the DL and we lose 8 out of the next 10 games. Do you see what your bouncing in and out of the line-up is doing to the chemistry of this team. Either man-up and play ball or go to the house. Remember what you said about Heyward last year, its about time you start listening to your own advice.

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