Jurrjens comes up big in Braves’ 4-1 win over Red Sox

BOSTON – Even if Braves officials hoped going in that Jair Jurrjens would pitch as well as he did Friday night, they wouldn’t have said so publicly. They would have sounded delusional.

Banished to the minor leagues for two months and brought back out of necessity following Brandon Beachy’s season-ending elbow surgery, Jurrjens came through with a vengeance, working 7-2/3 innings of three-hit ball in a 4-1 win against the Boston Red Sox in an interleague series opener at sold-out Fenway Park.

“He was terrific,” Braves manager Fredi Gonzalez said. ” He really was terrific.”

Unaffected by a 74-minute rain delay before the first pitch or pressure to prove he was ready for the recall, Jurrjens (1-2) allowed a single in the first inning and didn’t give up another hit until the eighth as he won for the first time since Aug. 11, 2011. He was charged with three hits and one run, with one walk and four strikeouts.

“It was great to see him back,” Braves catcher Brian McCann said. “He’s had some injuries, and obviously … it’s all about his velocity. When he’s able to get inside on guys, the way he pitches it opens up everything. It was a plus for all of us, because he’s a guy that can give us a lift for the rest of the year and beyond.”

Jurrjens was asked how it felt to be back in the big leagues, performing at a high level for a team that badly needed him to.

“Awesome,” he said. “That’s the only word I can come up with. It felt great. There’s no word to describe how good I felt.”

Jason Heyward and Martin Prado had three hits apiece and rookie Andrelton Simmons drove in two runs for the Braves, who won for the seventh time in their past eight road games and improved to 3-1 on a six-game interleague trip that began with a series win against the New York Yankees.

The Red Sox had won seven of eight games and piled up 38 hits and 25 runs in a three-game sweep of the Miami Marlins before facing Jurrjens, whose past 10 starts had been for Triple-A Gwinnett and were mostly unimpressive (3-4, 5.18 ERA).

“I guess it’s a little easier to pitch in the big leagues than it is Triple-A,” Gonzalez joked.

Indeed, the 2011 All-Star fared better against Boston hitters than he had those in the Triple-A International League. How?

“That’s a hard question to answer,” Jurrjens said. “I was just trying to simplify things as much as possible and just worry about myself and don’t try to do too much, just do as good as I could do and try to keep my team in the ballgame.

“I didn’t try to come and show anything. I just tried to come and give my team a good game. It’s not the first time I’m doing this. I don’t think I needed to show anybody. I just needed to go out there and pitch my game and have fun.”

The Braves and their front office breathed a collective sigh of relief.  Beachy had season-ending “Tommy John” elbow surgery on Thursday, and the Braves are evaluating potential trade targets in the next few weeks. But they won’t be in a desperate situation to obtain another proven veteran starter if Jurrjens pitches at least close to as effectively as he did Friday.

Using a mix of 82-84 mph change-ups, 89-91 mph fastballs – he topped out at 92 – and 79-80 mph sliders, Jurrjens kept Boston hitters off balance most of the night before appearing to tire in the eighth, when he gave up a run on a pair of doubles by Will Middlebrooks and Daniel Nava.

“Command was excellent,” Gonzalez said. “He had some differential on the changeup to the fastball. Slider had tilt, and he pitched ahead in the count and made some pitches when he had to. I was looking forward to watching him pitch today, and now I’m excited about the way he pitched, and [to see him] keep going.

“I mean, this is the J.J. of last year when he was going and made the All-Star team. It’s a nice lift.”

McCann said, “He was able to work both sides of the plate tonight with both his fastball and changeup. I think he sat between 88-92 [mph], sank it, four-seamed it, then worked his changeup the same way, four-seamed it and two-seamed it. Spotted up his slider. And when he’s doing that, he’s been a top-of-rotation starter for us for four years.  And to get him back, to see his velocity where it needs to be, that’s a great sign for everybody in here, including himself.”

Gonzalez said he wasn’t surprised because the scouting reports from the Gwinnett staff indicated Jurrjens was better than his numbers had indicated. Still, no one could have reasonably seen this coming from Jurrjens, who went 0-2 with a 9.37 ERA and .411 opponents’ average in four April starts before he was sent down.

Against the Red Sox he threw 68 strikes in 103 pitches. After Adrian Gonzalez’s two-out single in the first inning, Jurrjens allowed only two more baserunners before the eighth inning, that on a third-inning walk and fifth-inning hit-by-pitch.

He pointed to two things he worked on at Gwinnett as keys to his success: strengthening the right knee that sidelined him each of the past two seasons after the All-Star break, and working on his pitching mechanics that were thrown out of kilter by compensating for the knee. Jurrjens continued to wear a knee brace when pitching.

“I was not able to stay back and push off like I wanted to, which made the pitches stay up and the velocity was down,” he said of his April struggles. “There’s still a lot of room to improve, still a lot of work to do. Just going to keep working hard and keep getting ready for every start.”

The Braves took a 2-0 lead in the fourth inning. After Freddie Freeman hit a leadoff single, Heyward lined an opposite-field double off the Green Monster left-field wall, Matt Diaz drove in a run with a groundout and Simmons hit a two-out RBI double to the left-field corner.

In the sixth, Heyward doubled and scored on a Simmons sacrifice fly for a 3-0 lead. Freeman added an RBI single in the ninth.

Craig Kimbrel pitched a perfect ninth with one strikeout for his 21st save.

Heyward went 3-for-4 with two doubles and has a .377 average with 12 extra-base hits in 17 June games, after hitting .200 with nine extra-base hits in 28 May games. He’s 13-for-29 (.448) with eight extra-base hits during an eight-game hitting streak, with his two-homer game Friday following a two-homer game Wednesday in the series finale at Yankee Stadium.

“It’s fun to watch,” McCann said of Heyward’s surge. “I mean, the guy can do everything on a baseball field.”

106 comments Add your comment

Matt

June 22nd, 2012
11:29 pm

I’m as optimistic a fan as there is, and I’m shocked he pitched so well. Hope he can just be serviceable the rest of the way.

YE19

June 22nd, 2012
11:29 pm

Welcome back, JJ.

Tom

June 22nd, 2012
11:29 pm

first welcome back JJ

Richard Nixon

June 22nd, 2012
11:31 pm

That was vintage Jurrjens. could be just what we need to fill the Beachy vacuum. does this make him trade bait?

TheOnlyBravesFan

June 22nd, 2012
11:32 pm

this is a good start for JJ, hope he can put together more quality starts

4th

June 22nd, 2012
11:33 pm

Wow, what a great outing for JJ! It sure would be sweet if this gets him going. Let’s go bravos!

Rey

June 22nd, 2012
11:35 pm

The Braves baffle me. You just don’t know which Braves team you’ll see from week to week. At any rate, awesome job Jurjjens and great work Heyward.

Bobby Dews

June 22nd, 2012
11:37 pm

bruce

June 22nd, 2012
11:39 pm

JJ carved it up tonight.

I might not have expected what he did tonight, but I sure did hope for it and am really happy for JJ.

Why did Diaz not get credited with a Sac Fly when Heyward advanced to third on Matt’s sac fly to right? I thought if runner advanced, it was automatic.

Quack Quack

June 22nd, 2012
11:40 pm

Welcome back JJ!! Awesome return. Take a deep breath, 1 down, 17 to go!!

GO BRAVES!!!

GulfwavesGary

June 22nd, 2012
11:44 pm

It is clear now that JJ is a head case. Thats fine as long he pitch”s anywhere like he did Friday. Heyward is a head case also. .377 in June and .200 in May. Really seeing this as a manager problem not being able to keep his players focused at all. Simmons is a monster in both the field and at the bat. The manager could not see this potential. GO BRAVES

YoungerThan ThatNow

June 22nd, 2012
11:47 pm

Bruce… it’s not a sac fly unless the runner advances and scores… no sac on moving a runner over unless it’s by bunt.

BravesFan

June 22nd, 2012
11:48 pm

Wow what a relief. Let’s hope jj can pitch half that well from here on out. Go braves!

Chop Chop

June 22nd, 2012
11:49 pm

Good start by Jurrjens. Trade him for whatever you can get.

BravesFan

June 22nd, 2012
11:51 pm

Oh yea… I blame this win on fredi g and rodger McDowell…..for all the naysayers out there

bulldogbubba

June 22nd, 2012
11:53 pm

He looked determined on the mound and his pitching was excellent. The focus was there to suceed.Of course this was only the first back but I like the improvement.If we can keep the regulars in the line-up we might have a chance to move back up into first place. GO BRAVES

YoungerThan ThatNow

June 22nd, 2012
11:55 pm

Great job tonight JJ!

It doesn’t matter what their record is, Boston is tough to beat at Fenway, but JJ sliced that lineup up very nicely and left no jagged edges! A complete game tonight on every front and it was indeed fun to watch. JJ’s excellent performance tonight should give Delgado some incentive to go out tomorrow and do the same thing, and hopefully the bats will do their thing again as well. Jason Heyward is doing what he’s supposed to do right now, and let’s hope that his health keeps him in that groove. Martin Prado again tonight, was just being Martin Prado… and that’s a very good player to emulate.

Great game and great win! Thanks for all the hard work this week DOB… lots of information out there tonight and we appreciate it all!

GO BRAVES!!

Yogi Berra

June 23rd, 2012
12:00 am

Braves sign DJ Carrasco pitcher from Mets that they released…another reject heading to Braves.

Great job JJ…

Brave New World

June 23rd, 2012
12:00 am

Looks like we may have picked up an all star starting pitcher. GO JJ!

Ralph

June 23rd, 2012
12:07 am

I have to admit I had written JJ off for dead, glad he is back with the performance of his career and I hope he keeps it up, we sure need him right now. I just hope his knee holds up the rest of the season and I believe that will be the main reason they won’t be able to trade him and get very much in return.

bart

June 23rd, 2012
12:09 am

Bunch of idiots here suggesting to trade JJ……….his history has been that when he is healthy he is a top of the rotation pitcher………you’re not going to trade him for someone better………as I said – idiots.

Ralph

June 23rd, 2012
12:12 am

I hate these idiots that are always calling others idiots.

Ralph

June 23rd, 2012
12:12 am

I hate these idiots that are always calling others idiots.

Ken Stallings

June 23rd, 2012
12:15 am

Doctor Jeckyle made another magnificent appearance tonight to throttle the Red Sox. Let’s hope that Mister Hyde stays away for a while!

pj

June 23rd, 2012
12:18 am

After BB went down, I told my Braves buddy season was over unless JJ came back and pitched like 2010. Sooooo… So far so good!

Bravedaddy

June 23rd, 2012
12:18 am

Did anyone else notice Fox turned the radar gun feature off for the game?

Choice

June 23rd, 2012
12:19 am

Great outing by JJ. Now still trade bait for an outfielder, or Teheran next year barring any injuries.

NickB

June 23rd, 2012
12:23 am

JJ’s peripheral stats haven’t matched up well with his ERA and he was bound to have a regression, the reason peopl want to trade him is

A) he costs a lot in arbitration prolly $7 mill at least next year
B) Boras is his agent, which means no extensions so need to get value when you can
C) pitched over his head early half of 2011
D) could implode again at any moment

Yogi Berra

June 23rd, 2012
12:26 am

bart…JJ will be a free agent and Boras is his agent..If Braves can get something for him thats good because he will be gone when season ends.
Teams had Scouts there tonight to watch..

NORRIS CHUCK

June 23rd, 2012
12:32 am

BOSTON — A trade of Boston Red Sox infielder Kevin Youkilis could happen at any time now, two officials involved in trade talks told ESPN The Magazine’s Buster Olney. On Friday night, the Chicago White Sox were perceived to be one of the frontrunners.

The Red Sox have talked with the Los Angeles Dodgers, Cleveland Indians, Atlanta Braves and Arizona Diamondbacks about Youkilis, among other teams. One executive involved indicated on Friday night the White Sox were thought to be competing with an NL team, and the Red Sox were going through the process of trying to nudge offers one last time.

I wonder if Youklis is gonna be a Brave by the end of the week?

Yogi Berra

June 23rd, 2012
12:35 am

I hope not..we don’t need another player going down hill. Just say no to Youklis .

NickB

June 23rd, 2012
12:36 am

Yogi Berra

actually I think JJ has one more year of arbitration left

Rowsdower

June 23rd, 2012
12:40 am

I’ve been away for a while, but it’s nice to see that NickB is still throwing water on everything factual. JJ threw a great game. He looked healthy. When he has been healthy he has been one of the best pitchers in baseball. Seems he is regressing to his normal level of production when healthy.

BTW…his peripherals were pretty damn spectacular tonight regardless of how much you want to dice them up.

Yogi Berra

June 23rd, 2012
12:41 am

oh, Youklis will also be a free agent..don’t waste a player for him.

NickB

June 23rd, 2012
12:41 am

Youk would actually be a great bench bat for us, a righty bat who can hit right handed pitching (unlike Diaz) can spell 1st and 3rd, better option than Frncisco, who, IMO, needs to be starting for a non contender so he can develop his eye a little bit more

NickB

June 23rd, 2012
12:42 am

rowsdower,

i wasn’t referring to tonights game, I was answering someone’s question of why the Braves wanted to trade him

Dr. Don

June 23rd, 2012
12:44 am

Gulf Coast Gary – speaking of head cases, back on the meds, son.

Yogi Berra

June 23rd, 2012
12:44 am

NickB, I believe you may be right..but he is making 5 plus million this year and Wren will not up the $$ to sign him.

Rowsdower

June 23rd, 2012
12:47 am

Allow me:

A) He’s not gonna cost near that much after being brutal for as long as he was, an injury risk at any moment and stinking in AAA.
B) Boras is his agent…that’s all you have to say.
C) In the first half of 2011 he pitched… an awful like he did in 2009. The last time he was healthy.
D) Could get hurt again at any moment.

Ty Cobb's Soul

June 23rd, 2012
12:48 am

This board is more fun when the Bravos lose – raging, salivating fans make for good copy.

Rowsdower

June 23rd, 2012
12:49 am

Roger that Nick

Yogi Berra

June 23rd, 2012
12:49 am

goodnight Braves fans.

NickB

June 23rd, 2012
12:49 am

In Arbitration the most a players salary can be cut is 20% , and I doubt that happens, in fact, I would say that it’s about 75% that he gets traded either during this season or in the offseason.With 2 big OF spots to fill , the money is going to be needed for other things rather than paying JJ between $5 and $7 million to pitch for the Braves , with all of his potential issues.

Rowsdower

June 23rd, 2012
12:50 am

@Yogi – Wren won’t pony up the dough if he gets hurt again, but if he goes 12-1 down the stretch…?

IlliniBrave

June 23rd, 2012
12:52 am

It seems we could get Youk for next to nothing – maybe just a mid-level prospect. If so, it would be worth takng a flier on the guy. When he’s healthy and dialed in, he can flat out rake. Seems like a chance worth taking.

NickB

June 23rd, 2012
12:53 am

I wouldn’t blame Wren as much as the ownership has limited the budget, but if I were our GM, I’d be a little gunshy on paying JJ that much money to have him end up missing half the season again.

I’m happy he pitched a great game, and I hope he’s truly back, but I’m gonna have to see 2 or 3 more starts before you can count me a believer in him again

Rowsdower

June 23rd, 2012
12:54 am

$5-6M for a top of the rotation guy (if healthy) is a bargain. I know there are going to be decisions to make in the OF, but with Chipper and Lowe coming off the books there will be some flexibility. I’m happy with his performance and velocity tonight. Let’s see how he looks in his next start before we speculate.

NickB

June 23rd, 2012
1:09 am

yeah but he’s only pitched 20 games in 2010, 23 in 2011 and 5 this year……

Scrappy

June 23rd, 2012
1:11 am

Fine job, JJ! Keep it going,man!

Rowsdower

June 23rd, 2012
1:20 am

I feel ya, but he is an excellent pitcher when healthy as demonstrated by his 2009 and first half of 2011. I just hope he can stay healthy. He’s too young to have all these physical problems. Time will tell…

YoungerThan ThatNow

June 23rd, 2012
1:26 am

It’s a fact that JJ needs to follow up tonight’s outstanding performance with more of the same… no question there. But it’s a start… and it’s a good start… and to get to 8-10 wins you’ve got to start somewhere and start strong. JJ has done that tonight. Whether he’s a part of the Braves staff for several more seasons, or if he gets traded for somebody else that can help the team win ballgames tomorrow, this start and performance tonight was necessary. Let’s give the guy some credit… what he’s gone thru isn’t easy on the psyche or the body… anybody who has had knee issues will tell you that. And to go from All-star back down to AAA in less than a year has got to work on your mind… but I agree that it was needed and warranted in this case.

Baseball is a game where you can’t enjoy your victories too long, or wallow in your losses for an extended time either… tomorrow’s a new day and a new win is needed then as bad as this one was needed today!

GO BRAVES!!

bart

June 23rd, 2012
1:26 am

JJ will be a free agent but so what. If he returns to form and stays healthy (I know – a big if), then he is worth the money. Use him till the trade deadline next year when the arms in the minors have had another year to mature. Don’t think he has great trade value at the moment and like I said who are you going to replace him with? With the loss of Beachy we won’t stand a chance in the post season with basically three rookie pitchers.

Boss

June 23rd, 2012
1:43 am

That was an incredibly long article!

TRADE RUMORS

June 23rd, 2012
2:16 am

Atlanta Braves Rumors

The Latest On Kevin Youkilis
By Mike Axisa [June 22, 2012 at 10:48pm CST]
Yesterday we learned that the Red Sox have “stepped up their efforts” to trade Kevin Youkilis, who is losing playing time to Will Middlebrooks. After the rookie went 3-for-4 with a homer in last night’s game, manager Bobby Valentine told Youkilis that he’ll be sitting for a while according to Nick Cafardo of The Boston Globe (on Twitter). Here’s the latest on the Greek God of Walks…

•A handful of teams are involved in the bidding according to Olney (Twitter link), but one official believes the White Sox are best positioned to swing a deal. It appears as though the Pirates have little interest in Youkilis according to ESPN Boston.
•ESPN’s Buster Olney hears that teams believe Youkilis could be traded at any time, but the feeling is that Boston is just working to get the best offer (Twitter link).
•The Braves scouted Kevin Youkilis last week, Cafardo tweets. In fact, the Braves scouted him multiple times this past week, according to David O’Brien of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution (on Twitter).

WHAT ABOUT THAT DOB ?????? IT’S TRUE?????? :p

kirkinga

June 23rd, 2012
2:49 am

If JJ returns to anything close to the pitcher he was before his injury, then he is worth more than any OF that is likely to be available. The FA list doesn’t look promising and I have to wonder what value the team would get in return should JJ return to form?

I look at the rotations in our division and don’t see Braves’ rotation as deep enough to go trading a legit #2 and keep up with the arms in the division. If the Braves can go get an All-Star on near All-Star for him, sure, go for it. Anything less and you go ahead and pay him the money.

Charles

June 23rd, 2012
3:35 am

While tonight’s performance was gratifying, JJ’s average velocity was 89 mph. It remains to be seen whether he can perform consistently or whether tonight’s performance reflected understandable grit and determination to prove something.. Fortunately, we’ll get to see a few more starts before the trade discussions heat up, and then a more sound judgement can be made as to what to do with JJ. ..

NickB

June 23rd, 2012
4:04 am

The facts are that Jurrjens must show great command of all his pitches to be successful, tonight he did that. but sometimes he’s going to have command problems and since he no longer throws 93-95 he is going to get hit hard and fail to reach the 5th inning every few starts. I hate to sound like a broken record, but Jurrjens was extremely lucky the first half of last year as hif FIP and xFIP were both much higher than his ERA which suggested he was going to regress the 2nd half regardless.

He’s a good #3 pitcher when he’s on it, but a mediocre #5 when he isn’t locating. IMO, when you combine this with who is agent is and that he will probably be making $6 million next season at the least, I would move him as soon as you can get some value for him.

BravesFan79

June 23rd, 2012
5:20 am

Jurrjens was good enough in the 1st half of last year (and in 2010) to be not just a All Star, but to be a Starter for the All star game! Yet your telling me hes no better than a #3 pitcher??
JJ has been the best big game pitcher for the Braves over the past 3 years. With Hudson being #2.

HOF 10

June 23rd, 2012
5:22 am

Let’s not trade for a starting pitcher or any player who will be with the team just for the remainder of this season. Rather go with what we have. Those kinds of trades since the great run of division titles ended have gutted the team.

longtimefan

June 23rd, 2012
7:00 am

NickB-When JJ “is on it” he is better than a #3, he is an ace. I would assume by “on it” you are referring to last year’s dominating first half performance. In that isolated time he pitched like a front of rotation guy and he did it the why he did last night-pinpoint control, changing speeds and keeping hitters off balance. His problem second half of last year and this was loss of control with pitches up and inadequate separation of velocity between change up and fastball(need 8-10 mph to be effective}. He looked like the old JJ to me tonite. He doesn’t have to throw 93/95 to be effective. Maddox sat @ low 90s upper 80s his whole career.

BravesFanForever

June 23rd, 2012
7:30 am

Looks to me like they are really going to have to keep an eye on Jurrjens. It sounds like he really is on the brink of going down at any minute given the fact that if he loses even a couple of miles off his fastball, he can get ripped by the hitters. You know: knee flaring up, tired arm, etc. Pitchers like Hanson may be unaffected by losing a couple of miles off the fastball because he throw so hard and pitchers like Hudson are so crafty they can pitch through the issues. Don’t get me wrong: Jurrjens has decent stuff, knows how to keep the batters off balance, and has a lot of poise (he never seems to look like he has lost control) but with his knee you never know when he might completely fall apart because most guys just can’t get buy in the majors with a sub 90’s fastball. It’s probably why the Braves were so willing to part with Jurrjens a couple of years ago until he started going downhill.

Anyway, good for him and good for the Braves! I really hope he can keep this up and give the team a HUGE lift the rest of the way. Maybe the Bravos will even be inspired because they really need to get it together!

GO BRAVES!

Paddy

June 23rd, 2012
7:49 am

Gulf Waves Gary…you need to watch more baseball and get a better handle on the game before posting. That was remedial

Hubert

June 23rd, 2012
7:54 am

Just a note for all the geniuses who blame Roger McDowell for BB’s injury. The Royals have had 4 pitchers go down to Tommy John surgery THIS year. Toronto lost 3 starting pitchers LAST WEEK.

Bert Blyleven commented that pitchers “back-in-the-day”, who pitched 300 innings per year, did not do upper body weight lifting (only legs). He sees the added muscle on today’s starters as giving them a few extra MPH’s on their fastball, but also putting tremendous strain on ligaments that can’t support the size and power of the surrounding muscles. Glavine and Maddux did not have the upper body strength that Beachy has and they didn’t get injured. Avery and Smoltz were muscle heads (relatively speaking) and they battled all kinds of arm problems. Don’t blame the pitching coach when pitchers are now produced to rip it at maximum velocity for only 5 innings. Blyleven never threw hard and lasted 23 years…of course he had the best curveball ever, which very few seem interested in mastering anymore.

alanfalcon

June 23rd, 2012
7:56 am

JJ’s effort and concentration against the BOSOX was great, unlike the first of the year he didn’t get as fustrated with calls he thought should have been strikes he just went about his job and pitched an outstanding game, hopefully there’s more to come.

Double Zero Eight

June 23rd, 2012
8:02 am

I did not know what to expect. What a pleasant surpirse!
Let’s hope he can stay healthy and mentally strong.

Nativebird

June 23rd, 2012
8:06 am

Key to this team has always been two words: Jason Heyward. if this guy finally figures it out…..the sky is the limit for this team. If he doesn’t and remains just a “nice” player…..bust. The draft, and expectations are not to have a “nice” player in jeyhey. He is to be a game-changer. A blockbuster. A super star. So far….very iffy. Very.

DaveinNEPA

June 23rd, 2012
8:06 am

I was pleasantly surprised by JJ’s performance. I hope he can build off of it. But……I will remain skeptical until I see more.

Oh, by the way. Somebody ask Fredi why the 2 hottest hitters in the lineup are hitting 7th and 8th and the 2 coldest are hitting 3rd and 4th.

OrlandoBraveFan

June 23rd, 2012
8:14 am

Welcome back JJ! His next start will tell us a lot. Here’s hoping he has at least a solid / quality start!!

kazoo

June 23rd, 2012
8:15 am

I’m not sure the Braves will trade JJ. They just lost a starter for the season. They need the guy. Plus, with his injury issues teams will be leery of giving up too much for him. If he can regain his form, JJ will give this team a major boost.

a fan

June 23rd, 2012
8:17 am

I think Gulfwaves Gary is the head case!!!

braveshoo

June 23rd, 2012
8:22 am

I am opposed to any trades right now. Let our young players continue to get better and fill any needs from the minors. Save the money to tie up some of our key players next year: Heyward, FF, Prado, Kimbrel, and some of our other pitchers. Mejita or Gattis may be able to help off the bench more than Francisco. The only one I would concider trading for Youkillis is Francisco, and then only if Boston pays Youkillis’ salary for the rest of the year, and hes ok with being a bench player.

lpt nation

June 23rd, 2012
8:35 am

great win for jj much needed for him and the braves can we possible get those awessome unbiased announcers to discuss the great strategy behind us trying to trade the best man on the team M prodo in the off season and not having the best SS in our system in the big show from day one. clearly simmons is far superior to the other guy OUT TO PASTURE-NICKY ( not even close ). somebody’s making bad discussion,s but lets don’t talk about that we will just listen to the snake oil salesman ’s tell us what a great at bat diaz had when he dribbles one to first base and the runner moves to third . I MISS SKIP ( TELL IT LIKE IT IS ) CARY

BravesRealFan

June 23rd, 2012
8:44 am

how can this be a positive. The hypocrite manager that sent him to the Minors for 3 bad starts is now kissing his backside for one great start.

Minor has been crap for 5 straight starts w/ the worse ERA in the majors for a starter and he’s just saying “well he’ll get better.” Where was that same patience w/ JJ? how can you treat a seasoned starter like that? No other Major League manager is doing that.

Thanks to that exchange and demotion, JJ is gone at the end of this year because he’s going to want max money. Thanks Freddie Gonzalez

BRAVELESS

June 23rd, 2012
9:23 am

I hope the braves were not showcasing JJ for a trade to Boston. ESPN reports that Boston is planning on trading their 3rd basement. We do not need another over the hill player to take up roster space.

Jimmy Crack

June 23rd, 2012
9:24 am

Nice job, JJ. Out of nowhere. Keep it going. This team keeps getting curiouser and curiouser.

Playoffs!!!

June 23rd, 2012
9:29 am

There’s been a lot of negativity (until last night) over JJ—a lot of haters out there. But when he’s on his game, he is Maddox-like.
Take a look at his lifetime stats–this guy can pitch. He is a winner. He has now recovered from his knee problems and learned how to pitch with a knee brace.
And for those of you who want to trade him because he is a Boras client, well. then you must want to trade Tommy Hanson and Michael Bourne now , too

Whiskey River

June 23rd, 2012
9:31 am

@BRAVELESS You actually believe everthing ESPN tells you. They only tell what they want. With NFL network NHLNetwork, NBA Network, and MLB Network. There is no reason to watch those favortism jerks.

Brava

June 23rd, 2012
9:33 am

The facts are that Jurrjens must show great command of all his pitches to be successful, tonight he did that. but sometimes he’s going to have command problems and since he no longer throws 93-95 he is going to get hit hard and fail to reach the 5th inning every few starts.

Those aren’t facts, they are your biased opinion. Biased by your dependence on stats. JJ has always driven you stats geeks crazy because he doesn’t fit into your tidy little FIP box. He never has, yet, he’s pitched very successfully (when he was healthy) for going on 4 years. He’s proof that your stats are flawed. THAT is a fact.

Whiskey River

June 23rd, 2012
9:38 am

@Brava I agree. JJ is for real. Management won’t keep him because they don’t like him. They are stupid and don’t know a good thing when they see it. They will not resign him.

Brava

June 23rd, 2012
9:42 am

I think you’re right, Whiskey River. It’s a shame because he’s a very good pitcher when healthy. He’s also one of my favorite Braves, so I’ll miss him.

Bvillebaron

June 23rd, 2012
10:08 am

Nick:

Jurrjens had “out pitched” his peripherals for 3 plus years before injuring his knee last year. Saber metrics are a nice tool, but they don’t explain everything. I am so sick of hearing people think statistical analysis controls all.

Did it ever occur to you that JJ’s problems are injury related (i. e. losing his mechanics due to the knee injury while having to adjust to wearing one on what may be a permanent basis)? This lack of velocity harangue is nonsense also JJ DELIBERATELY threw with less velocity at the start of last year for more movement (i. e. more 2 seamers) when he led the league in ERA. I won’t tell you that he was that good, but he has been a very good pitcher–at least a number 3 and probably a number 2, before he got healthy. I suggest that if he is healthy, a “regression” to the norm will result in us seeing the very good pitcher we saw before he got hurt. His “issues” relate to being re-injured, which is the same type of issues a lot of others have.

Dawg Haus

June 23rd, 2012
10:10 am

That’s the Jurrjens we all know and love. Welcome back, JJ!!

THEX

June 23rd, 2012
11:09 am

WAY TO GO, JJ!

Heisenberg

June 23rd, 2012
11:11 am

Braves have been scouting Youklis this past week? For what? To see how he crosses his legs or which hand he uses to eat sunflower seeds?

Heisenberg

June 23rd, 2012
11:17 am

I would have been all over picking up Youklis 2-3 years ago, but not now (except for maybe that proposed Fransisco deal above). He looks done. Unless maybe Roger Clemens was there last night to remind Youk that they all said Clemens was done until he got himself a new personal trainer and the rest is history.

JeanE

June 23rd, 2012
11:19 am

JJ was awesome, I couldn’t believe it was the same pitcher from earlier in the year! He really was locked in and just like Joe Simpson said, ever pitch hit Mac’s glove where he had it positioned. Yeah JJ!! Boy did we need that…keep it up guys

dickelsby

June 23rd, 2012
11:21 am

Has anyone else noticed how little Hinske is contributing this year??

Dirty Dawg

June 23rd, 2012
11:22 am

I agree that his ‘head’ isn’t in keeping with what the Braves are comfortable with but I say ‘Keep on pitching MAD…keep going out there with the intention of rubbing management’s nose in it’…whatever it takes for you to stay focused on what you’re supposed to be doing. One of my takeaways is that it was hard for him to pitch like this at AAA cause he was feeling unappreciated and pouty. Plus if he keeps pitching like this Boros will price him out of the Braves’ range.

Dirty Dawg

June 23rd, 2012
11:25 am

Hey dickensby, yeah, believe me Hinske’s noticed.

Whiskey River

June 23rd, 2012
11:29 am

@Dirty Dawg Management does’nt like JJ so will not sgn him no matter what price. He is gone at end of year if not before.

Vesaversa

June 23rd, 2012
11:29 am

Maybe if the Braves had a motivational manager Jurrjen would have been doing this all along . I don’t know who the pitching coach is out in Gwinnett but maybe they need to move him up to the big league . I’m sticking with these Braves because i have this felling they will be right where they need to be once playoff season come around ..

Whiskey River

June 23rd, 2012
11:31 am

@dickelsby He is right along with his deadbeat buddy-Chipper.

benchwarmer

June 23rd, 2012
11:42 am

Now Mr Heyward is looking very awesome. Keep it going big guy. Love Simmons too.

Brandon

June 23rd, 2012
11:52 am

@BravesRealfan – jurrjens got demoted because he had nothing going for him. 86-88 mile per hour fast ball, no command, low differential between fast ball and change up, etc. As one of jurrjens top fans, i totally agreed with his demotion.

Im happy that he got a chance to strengthen his legs and work on his mechanics. he’s been one of my fav pitchers since 2009, and i stated that he will definitely help the braves down the stretch.

@Vesaversa – i don’t feel that jurrjens problems were from lack of motivation, but feel free to blame Fredi.

74bravesjersey

June 23rd, 2012
11:55 am

Boras doesn’t wait around hoping the Braves re-sign him, he’s always got other prospects waiting in the wings for all his clients. He might have the braves-brass on one phone thinkin’ what idiots tryin’ to low-ball me, & already has 12 other teams on the other phones. Braves don’t ever rattle boras in dealing time. He’s always looking sky-line bids for his clients.

74bravesjersey

June 23rd, 2012
11:59 am

J-Hey is rockin’ & rollin’; Keep on Bust’in J-Hey! U-too A-Slick!

JoeFan

June 23rd, 2012
12:40 pm

JJ had a very good start but can he consistently repeat it ? Until he answers that question then the Braves can’t be satisfied he fills the hole left by Beachy. The Braves have other needs too including a weak bench that needs to be shored up. Plus, Chipper looks old and needs to finish his career coming off the bench with Prado at 3B. Any trades that bring a solid LF and add to the bench strength need to be considered.

Whiskey River

June 23rd, 2012
12:46 pm

@74 bravesjersey Hi. Heyward, Simmons,Freeman,Prado. All Keepers. Build around them. Got Bethancortand Gattis in minors that look good. The future is bright. Hope dumb management does’nt trade them away for another broken down player.

Jborodawg

June 23rd, 2012
1:42 pm

Great job by Fredi G and JJ!

bvillebaron

June 23rd, 2012
1:50 pm

Brandon:

Spot on in every aspect!

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