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jeffrey d

June 22nd, 2012
9:55 am

RC – glad to see that I’m not the only person using his time wisely this morning

Sopheee

June 22nd, 2012
9:55 am

I can name five players on the Yankees roster, does that make me a Yankees fan?

Sopheee

June 22nd, 2012
9:56 am

Didn’t Air Bud run away from his abusive owner who was a clown?

Ease

June 22nd, 2012
9:57 am

I agree. These people need some new material…

For real…Just accept what’s done is done and let it go…Time to think about Hanson in a Dodgers uni…

Ease

June 22nd, 2012
9:59 am

Wait, so Air Bud got Clowned? That’s animal cruelty on all levels.

RC

June 22nd, 2012
10:00 am

I keep hearing (reading) about how bad the fans in Atlanta are, I think it is a bit unfair. Take an area devastated by the recession and consider that wages are somewhat diminished in the area to begin with, add a stadium that is too large, located in a slum with poor access and I think you get what you have got.

Folks in Atlanta are tired of losing, period. No need to make yourself feel even more depressed than you already are. It is why the Yankees have so many fans, they are perennial winners. Most Yankee fans don’t even understand the game.

While I agree with a lot of your first paragraph, I disagree with the statement “Folks in Atlanta are tired of losing, period.” The attendance for the Braves began decreasing LONG before they stopped making the postseason every year. People essentially got complacent with winning. Not blaming anyone, it’s just the way it is. Not to mention the nice weather and many other outdoor activities make a ballgame just one of many options for a family to enjoy a summer evening, which isn’t the case in many cities in the northeast.

Efrim

June 22nd, 2012
10:01 am

From Buster Olney’s blog this morning:

I heard some speculation — and that’s all it is right now — from one corner of the industry that the maybe the best thing for the Tigers to do is trade Rick Porcello while he has some value. Porcello is a sinker-baller and generates a lot of ground balls, and he is not a good fit for the Tigers’ subpar infield defense, which is not going to get better any time soon. If Detroit landed a veteran fly ball pitcher — maybe even for Porcello — then trading the 23-year-old right-hander would make sense.

And Porcello could be an excellent fit for a team like the Braves, who will have shortstop Andrelton Simmons manning that position for years to come, or the Reds or Cubs. You wonder if some deal could be built around Porcello and Matt Garza.

Frankie Wren

June 22nd, 2012
10:02 am

“Folks in Atlanta are tired of losing, period”

No doubt. Just a different mindset than a lot people who post here that live outside the area, it really is. 1 playoff win at home in 8 years and 1995 seems like a eternity although it’s really not that long.

Falcons knocking on the door get people excited and falling face down come postseason. Hawks are a just a joke of a poorly run franchise and the Winnipeg Thrasers, well nuff said there.

Really isn’t a bad sports town at all, people just want a winner. Support of the Falcons and Braves is still strong, just time to make things happen. Go for it this season with the Braves, tired of hearing what should happen next year or after. Looking forward to good things at Turner next couple of months.

Ease

June 22nd, 2012
10:02 am

it is the responsibility of bread winner to provide for his family to the best of his ability

So only making 10 million as opposed to 15 million would be “roughing” it? Guess the McCann’s would have start cutting back and stop living above their means. Put them on a budget.

Efrim

June 22nd, 2012
10:04 am

Just noticed Rick Porcello made 3.1 million in his first year of arbitration. How much is Tommy Hanson going to get? 4 million or more? Yikes. Was sort of thinking he’d top out at 3.5 million.

Jekyll and Hyde

June 22nd, 2012
10:07 am

Which Braves team shows up tonight?

RC

June 22nd, 2012
10:08 am

So only making 10 million as opposed to 15 million would be “roughing” it? Guess the McCann’s would have start cutting back and stop living above their means. Put them on a budget.

Yeah, but after taxes you are really only talking about the difference between $6 million and $11 million probably. Pretty hard to get by on a measly $6 mil.

TheOnlyBravesFan

June 22nd, 2012
10:08 am

I can name five players on the Yankees roster, does that make me a Yankees fan?

No, what I am saying is that anyone who claims to be a Yankees fan should be able to name 5 players that are on the roster.

Efrim

June 22nd, 2012
10:08 am

Phillies gave Cole Hamels 4.35 million in his first year of eligibility. Hanson getting around 4 million seems about right.

richbrave

June 22nd, 2012
10:08 am

DOWN ON THE FARM

GSL – ORLANDO

G-BRAVES best PHILLIES 5-3.

2011 DSL grad SS JOSE PERAZA [.313 BA] 3-4, 2 R, 1 RBI [3], 1 BB, 2 SB [2]. My man off last year’s moribund DSL club.

2009 DSL grad RF HECTOR GARCIA [.111 BA] 1-5, 1 2B [1], 3 RBI [3], 1 SO.

2011 DSL grad DH JOE MENSES [.429 BA] 4-5, 1 3B [1], 1 CS [1].

2010 DSL grad LF EMMANUEL DANIEL [.111 BA] 1-5, 1 R, Hat trick.

2012 4th round CF JUSTIN BLACK [.167 BA] 2-5, 2 SO, 1 CS [1].

2012 28th round 2B K.C. CLAYBOUGH [.429 BA] 3-4, 1 R, 1 SO.

2012 3rd round C BRYAN De La ROSA [.375 BA] 1-4, 1 R, 1 PB [2].

1B 2008 DSL grad ANTHONY NUNEZ [.400 BA] 1-3, 1 BB, 1 SO, 1 E [1, fielding].

2011 DSL grad RHSP JORGE MONTENEGRO [6.35 BA] 4.0 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 7 SO. Nice outing.

2012 22nd round RHRP SHAE SIMMONS [W 1-0, 0.00 ERA] 2.0 IP, pristine, 3 SO. Great work rookie!

2012 25th round LHRP BRAEDON ROHDE [4.50 ERA] 2.0 IP, 1 H, 1 R/ER, 1 BB, 1 SO.

2011 DSL grad RHRP MAGDIEL AVENDANO [SV 2, 0.00 ERA] 1.0 IP, perfection.

jeffrey d

June 22nd, 2012
10:08 am

Which Braves team shows up tonight?

Hopefully the Mississippi Braves. I really want to see what Bethancourt can do

TheOnlyBravesFan

June 22nd, 2012
10:10 am

Sorry McFann, but it is the responsibility of bread winner to provide for his family to the best of his ability

He can do that in Atlanta…. 11-14 mil/yr (what I think the Braves might and should offer him) would be fine. If he leaves, it’s because of greed/security.

But it still would be interesting and kinda cool to see McFann on a Yankees blog…..

Ease

June 22nd, 2012
10:10 am

Probably the Atlanta one.

RC

June 22nd, 2012
10:11 am

No, what I am saying is that anyone who claims to be a Yankees fan should be able to name 5 players that are on the roster.

Da Captain, Da Overpaid Bum, Da Other Overpaid Bum that plays 1b, Da One That Married that TV actress, and Rivera.

How’d I do?

TheOnlyBravesFan

June 22nd, 2012
10:11 am

Bethancourt having a higher batting avg. in AA than Mac does in the bigs…. who saw that happening?

David O'Brien

June 22nd, 2012
10:11 am

While I agree with a lot of your first paragraph, I disagree with the statement “Folks in Atlanta are tired of losing, period.” The attendance for the Braves began decreasing LONG before they stopped making the postseason every year.RC

Exactly right. And people bend themselves into pretzels trying to explain that away, as though Atlantans live in some alternate America with a different economy, worse traffic (than L.A., for instance?) and different school schedule (no other team I know of has the disparity in attendance when school is in session and when it’s not).

Jekyll and Hyde

June 22nd, 2012
10:11 am

“Hopefully the Mississippi Braves. I really want to see what Bethancourt can do”

There is a really good chance you are going to get to see the kid play every day within the next couple of years.

Bat Masterson

June 22nd, 2012
10:12 am

Phillies gave Cole Hamels 4.35 million in his first year of eligibility. Hanson getting around 4 million seems about right.

So what’s Heyward gonna get?

Ease

June 22nd, 2012
10:13 am

what I am saying is that anyone who claims to be a Yankees fan should be able to name 5 players that are on the roster.

My wife is an Arkansas fan, but neither went there nor can name anyone on the football team (besides the long gone snake). So she is not a fan? Do YOU want to tell her that?

Efrim

June 22nd, 2012
10:14 am

So what’s Heyward gonna get?

Thinking 3.5 million. Just a shot in the dark there.

TheOnlyBravesFan

June 22nd, 2012
10:14 am

names please RC, but that’s ok lol!

It’s just something that peeves me, people who claim to be a fan of a certain team, but can’t name just 5 players… I have friends who are “Yankee fans”, and the only guy they know is A-Rod….. Geez. Maybe I just follow baseball too closely….

jeffrey d

June 22nd, 2012
10:14 am

Ease is married?

David O'Brien

June 22nd, 2012
10:14 am

Sorry McFann, but it is the responsibility of bread winner to provide for his family to the best of his ability

McCann’s making more this year than I’ll make in 30 years of working. I don’t think they’re about to go on food stamps or anything
— jeffrey d

Not sure how McCann’s wages compared to yours changes the fact that a worker generally doesn’t accept 30-50 percent less to stay in one location, unless he and his family believe all the other factors weigh so heavily as to make giving up a huge raise to stay put worthwhile. If they don’t, then nothing else should matter. You don’t stay in one location in order to satisfy others outside your own family. Period.

Ease

June 22nd, 2012
10:15 am

Besides, I think there is a huge difference in following a team and just being a fan.

RC

June 22nd, 2012
10:15 am

He can do that in Atlanta…. 11-14 mil/yr (what I think the Braves might and should offer him) would be fine. If he leaves, it’s because of greed/security.

Wait, is it greed or security? Because I wouldn’t call someone looking for additional security “greedy”.

I actually wouldn’t call any ballplayer greedy. The only way they a player has of knowing how much a club truly values him is by the contract that club is willing to offer him. If one club offers you $10 million a year, and other one offers you $15 million a year, wouldn’t you think that the club that offered your $15 million “wants” you more? And who among us wouldn’t want to work somewhere where we feel wanted?

I’ll be a Mac fan no matter where he signs. If it’s not in Atlanta I’ll be disappointed, but he’s got to make the decision that works for him.

Efrim

June 22nd, 2012
10:15 am

McCann, Prado, and if he has a solid 93 more games, Heyward are the extension candidates.

Ease

June 22nd, 2012
10:16 am

Ease is married?

Even got the wife to prove it.

TheOnlyBravesFan

June 22nd, 2012
10:16 am

Do YOU want to tell her that?

Depends on her height and if you’ll be there :)

The Knack

June 22nd, 2012
10:17 am

my McFann

Could be a hit song.

Efrim

June 22nd, 2012
10:18 am

I’ll be a Mac fan no matter where he signs. If it’s not in Atlanta I’ll be disappointed, but he’s got to make the decision that works for him.

Completely agree. If he wants to sign a 6 year, 108 million dollar deal with the Yankees, Rangers or whoever – there isn’t much we can do about it and he should be looking for the best deal possible. I would be….

TheOnlyBravesFan

June 22nd, 2012
10:19 am

Wait, is it greed or security? Because I wouldn’t call someone looking for additional security “greedy”.

Greed if he takes more money for the same amount of years, or even less, security if he takes more years than Atlanta gives.

I think there is a huge difference in following a team and just being a fan.

Fans are crazy about their team, their fanatics. People who follow the team just like the logo, name. or whatever..

CrαZy

June 22nd, 2012
10:20 am

Really isn’t a bad sports town at all, people just want a winner.

If college athletics was part of the criteria it would be one of the best sports towns!

jeffrey d

June 22nd, 2012
10:20 am

Well I understand that the sports world is different than the rest of us working folks. But the way the guy worded it was like if McCann took less money to play with the Braves, he couldn’t “provide” for his family.

TheOnlyBravesFan

June 22nd, 2012
10:20 am

I’ll be a Mac fan no matter where he signs. If it’s not in Atlanta I’ll be disappointed, but he’s got to make the decision that works for him.

As long as he is out of the NL East, and he never keeps us out of the playoffs I’ll be a McCann fan. Scratch that. I’ll be a McCann fan period.

CrαZy

June 22nd, 2012
10:22 am

If all I brought home was 6 million my wife would leave me!!

Bat Masterson

June 22nd, 2012
10:22 am

Thinking 3.5 million. Just a shot in the dark there.

Jeff Francoeur put up a .239/ .294/ .359/ .653 72 OPS+ line in 08 and got a raise to $3.375m

:shock:

Efrim

June 22nd, 2012
10:24 am

Jeff Francoeur put up a .239/ .294/ .359/ .653 72 OPS+ line in 08 and got a raise to $3.375m

Insane. Then Heyward is getting 10 million…… ;)

RC

June 22nd, 2012
10:25 am

Greed if he takes more money for the same amount of years, or even less, security if he takes more years than Atlanta gives.

That doesn’t really make any sense. What if the additional money is enough that over the full contract it’s essentially equal to another year’s salary? He should take whoever offers him what he believes is the greatest value (meaning that it would likely take some sort of “premium” to leave his current home).

TheOnlyBravesFan

June 22nd, 2012
10:26 am

If all I brought home was 6 million my wife would leave me!!

Looks bad for me…. I need to be making 8 million a year to get married!!!

Jekyll and Hyde

June 22nd, 2012
10:26 am

“You don’t stay in one location in order to satisfy others outside your own family. Period.”

And at the end of the day, that is the truth! The Braves have to consider if they can resign him and if they want to resign him. Mac has to consider what will benefit he and his family long term and the Braves organization has to consider what benefits them long term.

It’s nothing personal, it’s business. I agree with that concept wholeheartedly.

From a “what’s best for the Braves,” I have to say I trade Mac and get what I can for him before he hits free agency. The last gold watch deal to Chipper has hurt the Braves. The position Mac plays puts his next signing roughly the same as Chipper’s age at his last signing. (in dog years since he is a catcher)

If you put a value on how many games Chipper has been available and what his contribution has been since he signed his last deal, Chipper is probably making the equivalent of 22 million a year! He hasn’t been worth that. Again, the Braves can’t afford another gold watch contract and if Mac is signed at the number of years he can get and for market value, the Braves have another white elephant.

CrαZy

June 22nd, 2012
10:26 am

Ease
My wife is the same way with the Bulldawgs…

Efrim

June 22nd, 2012
10:26 am

With raises through arbitration for Prado, O’Flaherty, Heyward, Hanson, Medlen, Venters and Martinez – not sure we have as much to spend as some are lead to believe. Plus, Freeman, Beachy and Kimbrel are up for 1st year arbitration the following year.

Ease

June 22nd, 2012
10:28 am

If McFann leaves the NL East, I’ll still draft her with one of my top three fantasy picks.

MFin04

June 22nd, 2012
10:28 am

“You don’t stay in one location in order to satisfy others outside your own family. Period.”

Agree. I don’t think guys should take significantly less money, unless they REALLY want to. The Pujols situation, I really wanted him to stay with the Cardinals, but no one else got anywhere close to the Angels deal. The Cardinals certainly didn’t.

jeffrey d

June 22nd, 2012
10:29 am

I didn’t mean that as an insult, Ease….as in “Ease has a wife? That guy??”

I just didn’t know.

RC

June 22nd, 2012
10:29 am

Jeff Francoeur put up a .239/ .294/ .359/ .653 72 OPS+ line in 08 and got a raise to $3.375m

The way the arbitration process works, the only one of those numbers that likely played a factor at all was the .239. As ridiculous as it is, the numbers that really lead to his $3.375m were 103, 105, 71 (his RBI totals in the 3 years leading up to the raise).

DS1

June 22nd, 2012
10:30 am

Ease

If I brought home 6 million bucks, my wife of 35 years would probably leave me and head to Myrtle Beach for good. She’s say “You can come visit any time you wish, sweetie!”

Ease

June 22nd, 2012
10:30 am

I need to be making 8 million a year to get married!!!

You’re what 17, 18? Might want to rethink your priorities.

MFin04

June 22nd, 2012
10:31 am

“wife of 35 years would probably leave me and head to Myrtle Beach for good. She’s say “You can come visit any time you wish, sweetie!”

Good Riddance, right? ;)

CrαZy

June 22nd, 2012
10:31 am

The only way McCann stays in ATL beyond next season is if he wants to be here bad enough to accept less money than he’d get elsewhere!!

Ease

June 22nd, 2012
10:32 am

How was the dentist?

Efrim

June 22nd, 2012
10:32 am

As ridiculous as it is, the numbers that really lead to his $3.375m were 103, 105, 71 (his RBI totals in the 3 years leading up to the raise).

Yeah, that’s what I was thinking. I still think Heyward gets around 3-3.5 million. Hanson around 4 million.

RC

June 22nd, 2012
10:32 am

From a “what’s best for the Braves,” I have to say I trade Mac and get what I can for him before he hits free agency.

I think that largely depends on how the team is playing next year. If they are contending, then having Mac add to a team contending for a championship is worth getting “nothing” in return if he leaves as a free agent. What you got in return is a shot at a championship.

MFin04

June 22nd, 2012
10:34 am

First off, McCann putting up dreadful numbers this year, should bring his price down across the league, especially for a heavy-set catcher.

DS1

June 22nd, 2012
10:34 am

MFin04

More like, “I really don’t care what you want to do or where you want to go, but as for me, I’ll be in Myrtle Beach!”

But if I did have the 6 million, I’d buy me one of those new Convertible Cobra Mustangs and would drop by MB once in a while to visit.

Ease

June 22nd, 2012
10:35 am

Wayne, if I made 6 million bucks, I would go somewhere and make it rain. Just once. Cause I could.

Then I would come home, come clean, and my wife would just smile at me and say, “Can we adopt another cat?” like it never happened…

MFin04

June 22nd, 2012
10:36 am

“would drop by MB once in a while to visit.”

Exactly, precisely what a loving husband would do. :)

jeffrey d

June 22nd, 2012
10:36 am

Murph

June 22nd, 2012
10:36 am

There will be enough money for 1 top-flight free agent, 2 or 3 middle of the road free agents, or a whole gaggle of over-the-hill, fading free agents.

Knowing the Braves, which do you think they will end up getting?

TheOnlyBravesFan

June 22nd, 2012
10:37 am

You’re what 17, 18? Might want to rethink your priorities

I was adding inflating for 6-8 years from now… I want to be a meteorologist, so not to worried about that right now…

The only way McCann stays in ATL beyond next season is if he wants to be here bad enough to accept less money than he’d get elsewhere!!

Possibly true. I don’t ATL can match offers from any AL teams.

TheOnlyBravesFan

June 22nd, 2012
10:38 am

First off, McCann putting up dreadful numbers this year, should bring his price down across the league

Might put his trade value down, but not really is FA offers… he isn’t expected to stay this bad.

Bat Masterson

June 22nd, 2012
10:38 am

The Pujols situation, I really wanted him to stay with the Cardinals, but no one else got anywhere close to the Angels deal. The Cardinals certainly didn’t.

I read an analysis that made to offers pretty much equal when factoring in cost of living.

Something Heap might have to consider if it comes to that. :shrug:

RC

June 22nd, 2012
10:39 am

Yeah, that’s what I was thinking. I still think Heyward gets around 3-3.5 million. Hanson around 4 million.

I’d expect Hanson to get more than Heyward due to the increased service time. I wouldn’t be surprised if Heyward came in at under $3m, simply because last year was such a loss for him. Don’t forget that Francouer had an additional 70 games prior to his rookie season, as well as playing in 162 each of his first 2 full season. It’s also worth noting that unless Heyward’s RBI surpass his rookie season this year, his BEST RBI season is would be equal to Francouer’s WORST RBI season (which means nothing for actual performance, but means a lot in an arbitration hearing).

Murph

June 22nd, 2012
10:39 am

Can’t trade Mac until there’s a viable replacement at catcher… contrary to popular belief, Ross isn’t really a starter-caliber catcher and Bethancourt is at least 2 years away.

Our only hope is Gattis, but his advanced years make him a very slow healer as we’re seeing with his 2 months on the DL due to a sore arm.

TheOnlyBravesFan

June 22nd, 2012
10:39 am

There will be enough money for 1 top-flight free agent, 2 or 3 middle of the road free agents, or a whole gaggle of over-the-hill, fading free agents.

Knowing the Braves, which do you think they will end up getting?

Definitely not #1….., the 2 or 3 middle of the road is an option though… not really sure we’ll go for a bunch of old guys.

Sopheee

June 22nd, 2012
10:40 am

Even if you had a cavity, the Oreos would’ve been worth it.

jeffrey d

June 22nd, 2012
10:40 am

First off, McCann putting up dreadful numbers this year, should bring his price down across the league

That’s what we said about Andruw too.

Jekyll and Hyde

June 22nd, 2012
10:41 am

RC, actually I was thinking more about trading Mac in the off-season. He will bring much more value with a full year to play. Better still, like the Tex trade, he will bring even more today than waiting for the off-season. It may be surprising just how little he would bring in return at the deadline next season. The days of receiving a kings ransom at the trade deadline even for a star seem to be over. Most teams don’t pay well for a rental anymore.

I don’t actually think any of the above scenarios will happen. I think he will continue with the Braves all of this season and the next, then walk away for free agency with minimal compensation.

RC

June 22nd, 2012
10:41 am

Basically Francouer did a really good job at all the things that get you big raises in arbitration (lots of RBI, lots of games played).

Efrim

June 22nd, 2012
10:42 am

I think all in all, the 10 players that we will presumably have under contract next year will run us between 55-60 million(Uggla, McCann, Hudson, Prado, O’Flaherty, Hanson, Heyward, Venters, Medlen, and Martinez).

jeffrey d

June 22nd, 2012
10:42 am

I’m too chicken to follow through with that, Soph

Efrim

June 22nd, 2012
10:43 am

The Braves will not be involved on any top flight free agents except for Michael Bourn. And even he may be out of their price range from the start.

MFin04

June 22nd, 2012
10:44 am

Can anyone really see McCann leaving the Braves? I can’t imagine it. He IS the Braves at this point, and certainly once Chipper leaves. No Bobby, no Leo, no Chipper, no John S, no Ted Turner, I mean McCann really is like the only Brave. You have Freeman and Heyward who are the future, but McCann really is the present.

It is hard for me to imagine him somehwere else.

TheOnlyBravesFan

June 22nd, 2012
10:44 am

Am I correct in thinking that the Braves can offer McCann arbitration next year, and we get 2 draft picks if he walks?

Bat Masterson

June 22nd, 2012
10:44 am

I wouldn’t be surprised if Heyward came in at under $3m, simply because last year was such a loss for him.

I think Heyward gets at least $3.5mm

jeffrey d

June 22nd, 2012
10:44 am

So what are we going to do with that extra $20 million or so?

RC

June 22nd, 2012
10:46 am

Jekyll and Hyde,

I think the only way that trade makes sense is if the Braves aren’t expected to be in the race for the playoffs prior to the season. To me that seems very unlikely to happen, at least from their own internal evaluations. If Bethancourt was fully ready and knocking at the door, then such a move would make more sense (like trading Renteria to open a spot for Escobar). But with Bethancourt at LEAST a year away, I think the Braves are best served by holding onto Mac and trying to win a championship.

MFin04

June 22nd, 2012
10:46 am

“So what are we going to do with that extra $20 million or so”

Somebody’s wife at Liberty Media is getting a condo in Myrtle Beach. :)

Efrim

June 22nd, 2012
10:47 am

Am I correct in thinking that the Braves can offer McCann arbitration next year, and we get 2 draft picks if he walks?

If they extend a qualifying offer(which will most likely be around 12-13 million) and he signs with another team, then they will receive one draft pick between the first and second rounds of the 2014 draft.

RC

June 22nd, 2012
10:47 am

I think Heyward gets at least $3.5mm

If he does it will be due to inflation throughout baseball since Francouer’s deal, not because an arbitration board will view him as better.

CaptMudd

June 22nd, 2012
10:48 am

Zillow has that info

Efrim

June 22nd, 2012
10:48 am

So what are we going to do with that extra $20 million or so?

Short term free agent signings, or trading for a player that is making money and a free agent after 2013 or 2014 – like a Josh Willingham.

Bat Masterson

June 22nd, 2012
10:49 am

Basically Francouer did a really good job at all the things that get you big raises in arbitration (lots of RBI, lots of games played).

Yeah but he got traded for a guy in a wheel chair that year, too.

Jeff R

June 22nd, 2012
10:50 am

I think this “Hometown Discount” thing is overstated on the blog. I guess over the years, some players have taken a discount to stay with the Braves (Chipper, though he hasn’t exactly been underpaid).

But Tex was supposed to stay, remember, because of his playing at Tech and his wife being from the Atlanta area.

McCann may stay, I suppose, because of his ties to Atlanta, but if he’s offered a bundle to play in the AL, let’s say, hard to see him passing it up.

Hillbilly

June 22nd, 2012
10:50 am

My wife is an Arkansas fan, but neither went there nor can name anyone on the football team (besides the long gone snake). So she is not a fan? Do YOU want to tell her that?

No I just want to shake her hand. :)

CaptMudd

June 22nd, 2012
10:55 am

Heyward be around $2.75 Million…..but if he picks up and is consistent throughout, i.e., .270 BA….the figure easily jumps to $4 Million.

Ease

June 22nd, 2012
10:55 am

What about the garlic?

jeffrey d

June 22nd, 2012
10:56 am

lol, I got that suggestion after I was done.

Ease

June 22nd, 2012
10:56 am

So what are we going to do with that extra $20 million or so?

Could just give it to a homeless person…

TheOnlyBravesFan

June 22nd, 2012
10:58 am

So what are we going to do with that extra $20 million or so?

Use it to build a Marta rail and station right outside the Ted….. :roll:

Ease

June 22nd, 2012
10:58 am

Ah, bummer…

In college, I once went to the dentist the day after a huge party…

Efrim

June 22nd, 2012
10:59 am

Big few starts here for Jair before the break. Him, and the Braves. If he can pitch well – then they may think twice about going out and getting a starter. If he stinks up the joint, they are definitely going to acquire a starter.

Ease

June 22nd, 2012
10:59 am

Funny about garlic, just the other morning my wife commented as I was getting out of bed, that I needed to re-evaluate my use of garlic…

Ease

June 22nd, 2012
11:00 am

Well they at least might spring on some good air freshener.

Jekyll and Hyde

June 22nd, 2012
11:00 am

I agree that the if the Braves keep Mac, they have a better chance to compete today. On the other hand, I’m not excited about their chances of competing today or even tomorrow. Trading Mac now for more return value would mean the Braves would have a hole at the catcher spot. I realize that but I don’t think they are real contenders now anyway. I think you use Ross and pick up a game manager to back him up. You take your lumps for a year until Bethancourt is closer to reality and go forward with him.

If Bethancourt is who most project he is, then the Braves have a fine defensive backstop for a few years. Like Simmons, you appreciate the defense and hope he can hit. Even if he can’t produce big offense, you use your resources and replace Mac’s offense by acquisition at another position.

Mac has been without a doubt one of the best offensive catchers in baseball the past few years. But even though his numbers as a catcher have been impressive, they aren’t numbers that will land him in the top offensive categories of ALL players year after year. Move Mac. Pick up a corner outfielder who can match his offensive numbers through trade or FA. It doesn’t matter where the offense comes from as long as it comes.

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