1:27 pm June 20, 2012, by David O'Brien
Lee in S GA
June 21st, 20121:55 pm
CONSTANZA….kinda grows on you the more you hear it.
June 21st, 20121:57 pm
he is one of them guys who is easy to root for from an emotional standpoint, less so from a rational one
David, I don’t see “haters.” I just see honest assessments of the guy.
I don’t think he deserves a roster spot over guys like Hinske, Diaz or Jack Wilson. He may be on par with Francisco (although I would rather have a bench bat who can hit the ball out of the park every now and then and who can play thirdbase, if we are choosing between two fringe-type players). He may be on par with someone like Boscan, although Boscan’s ability to catch may make him a little more valuable.
June 21st, 20121:58 pm
Rays Claim Brooks Conrad
The Rays claimed Brooks Conrad off of waivers from Milwaukee, the Brewers announced.
Conrad, 32, has appeared in 25 games for the Brewers this year, playing all four infield positions. He has just three hits and three walks in 44 plate appearances, however. His career numbers — a .212/.287/.406 line in five seasons with the A’s, Braves and Brewers — are much better. Conrad joins a Rays infield mix that includes Elliot Johnson, Carlos Pena, Will Rhymes, Sean Rodriguez, Drew Sutton and the injured Jeff Keppinger and Evan Longoria.
Nice to see RawDog getting picked up, been a “bad” year and a a half for him though…
Waffle House or Bust
I bet it is amazing to play for Joe Maddon. He seems so laid back but still demands his players to give 100%. Love the 70’s Rays throwbacks and wish Braves would lose the red jersey for 70’s uniform. Still my favorite old jersey followed by the powder blue 80’s jersey.
June 21st, 20121:59 pm
I just GOTTA get another mouse.all that scrolling has done wore thisun out. double posts all over the place, but I still couldn’t beat Efrim…..
TheOnlyBravesFan – Conrad never recovered after blowing the Giants series for Bobby two years ago.
Was sort of hoping Signable would be in the Futures Game – but the U.S. Roster is just too loaded and so is the overall landscape of American born pitchers.
the 70’s Rays throwbacks
Something doesn’t seem right????
June 21st, 20122:00 pm
nolie is awake? I thought vampires slept all day.
Maddon and Davey Johnson in a big brouhaha…..
CrαZy – What I thought but they came up with one for series against Tigers. Looks like 70’s padres but in blue.
June 21st, 20122:01 pm
I bet it is amazing to play for Joe Maddon.
Plus he has no problem with you trying to cheat!!
By the way, here is the little bit on Bethancourt:
Christian Bethancourt, c
Team: Double-A Mississippi (Southern)
The Scoop: Bethancourt was one of the Braves’ stars of spring training as he showed off a special throwing arm and soft hands behind the plate. He still has work to do as a hitter, however, as he chases too many pitches out of the zone.
got all the lights off in my basement so I’m ok thanx
Here is article on Rays 70’s throwback uniform.
June 21st, 20122:03 pm
how can the Rays “throwback” to the 70s?????
can we teach pete/eric/jonny to play LF…then we can have a hella good LOOGY/ROOGY group
June 21st, 20122:06 pm
“He said it was uncanny to see the similarities between his career and that of the great switch-hitter Mantle, whose career was hampered greatly in the latter years by injury”
Mantle and Chipper are similar but not even close to equal.
June 21st, 20122:07 pm
He would help this team win games which he has shown in the past he can do.
Relative to whom? We need some baseline. Yes, anyone would help the Braves win games relative to nobody. But relative to your typical Triple-A corner-outfielder that pretty much any team can pluck off the scrap heap, how much is he going to help? That’s the question. Guys as valuable as Constanza are a dime a dozen. That’s not being a “hater.” That’s just the way it is, no matter whether we want to root for him or if we can’t stand him or if we are indifferent towards him.
thats what he said…similar
June 21st, 20122:09 pm
Harvey, Famiglia, Wheeler where do you see their ceilings?
Klaw (2:07 PM)
2/3 starter, reliever (he’s not Italian, though; if he was, I’d like him more), 1/2 starter.
Mets are going to have a legitimate starting rotation at some point in 2013 – Dickey, Santana, Niese ,Gee, Harvey or Wheeler.
June 21st, 20122:11 pm
Ah, well, I’m not a big Maddon fan, but I did think Johnson was the tiniest bit bush in that whole deal. Not as if Peralta is leading the world in all pitching categories, ya know?
June 21st, 20122:12 pm
I have this weird, optimistic feeling that we are going to have a very good 10 game homestand vs. the D-Backs, Nats and Cubs. Just sayin…..
June 21st, 20122:13 pm
“Teheran for Garza? that’s crazy talk,”
No it’s not. Teheran might someday be as good as Garza is today. On the other hand you have to pay Garza a lot today while Teheran is still cheap. It’s a perfect trade between a rebuilder and a contender that makes sense for both sides
exactly how are we breaking up a guy’s body into 2 thirds of a starter? I can see one half, or even 3 quarters (one arm starts, the other one and both legs relieve) but 2thirds is stumping me….
I thought Troy Glaus should have been playing third for that team, at that point, with Infante playing second. The team was decimated by injuries. What did they have to lose, even if Glaus wasn’t some stud player at that point in his career?
What’s happened to Jon Lester? He looked like a Top arm in sport. Just hasn’t really been the same since mid-2011.
June 21st, 20122:14 pm
Garza is not good enough for that to make sense
Hopefully your new prediction will go as well as your last one, Efrim. I don’t suppose you give money back guarantees, though, do you?
June 21st, 20122:15 pm
Too much fried chicken, Efrim.
Hopefully your new prediction will go as well as your last one, Efrim
Efrim is recently married, George. Thus, his predictions are still in the “honeymoon” period: he can do no wrong.
No it’s not.
1.5 years of Garza for 6 years of Teheran is steep, Robert. If you think it’s fair, then you’re probably down on Teheran.
June 21st, 20122:16 pm
Efrim’s new wife lets him eat fried chicken?
Brian from SC
The Gamecocks’ Roth with a 2 hour, 2-hitter over Kent State. Arkansas awaits.
June 21st, 20122:17 pm
nolie, that would be “unsuccessful” Tommy John surgery…
Robert is prolly thinking about sponsoring Teheran’s BBRef page too, Efrim….
Hah! Funny people. It really doesn’t feel that different. Sort of hit when the checkbook came in and her name was underneath mine. Hah!
June 21st, 20122:18 pm
I don’t know that the marriage is far enough along that we can ask that kind of personal, intimate questions.
new wife lets him eat fried chicken?
Only after a Braves win.
at least it ain’t above yours….yet
June 21st, 20122:19 pm
I really like Matt Garza, too. But that’s just not worth it.
Fast forward 3 years and Robert will be the 1st one bichin about the Teheran / Garza trade!!!
June 21st, 20122:20 pm
oh well, your cholesterol level is safe then….
Excellent point, noles. “Yet” being the key word there.
Spoken like a man who was young and in love and lived to tell about it, LOL.
and blaming it on Bobby, CraZy….
June 21st, 20122:22 pm
when the checkbook came in and her name was underneath mine.
That will change in all due time…
outta be a law against off days after day games
June 21st, 20122:23 pm
Among qualifiers, Polished is 16th in ERA among Left handed pitchers in the National League…………… http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/pitching/_/hand/left/league/nl/order/false
June 21st, 20122:24 pm
but we coulda had a Trout
June 21st, 20122:26 pm
I this like one of those “a couple into Yankee Stadium’s right field porch from Heyward”-type feelings?
June 21st, 20122:27 pm
Coulda had both, though we fans would have missed the thrill of Casey Kotchman.
June 21st, 20122:28 pm
I think Mac is close, and the offense is going to surge. Not a huge fan of the offenses of the Snakes, Nats and Cubbies.
If that’s the case, scoots, I’m gonna hope like hell he gets one of those feelings for my beloved Jackets this fall.
June 21st, 20122:29 pm
Not as strong as the Heyward home run prediction, though. I felt that one after seeing him face Kuroda in Atlanta. Just seemed like he had his number and while it didn’t produce HR’s, Hughes was the perfect RH pitcher the following day.
Him hitting one off of Logan was icing on the cake.
June 21st, 20122:30 pm
a My Morning Jackets fan, huh?
one of those feelings for my beloved Jackets this fall.
September might be stretching it for “honeymoon” period, George.
was that the first off Logan by a lefty?
June 21st, 20122:31 pm
And I’m staying away from the Red Sox series. They are starting to hit a little and it’s going to be hot this weekend up in Boston. Could be a fun weekend. I’ll be there for the Saturday game. Franklin Morales looked really good last time out.
June 21st, 20122:32 pm
WORST HONEYMOON EVER!
wifey in tow?
The Gamecocks’ Roth with a 2 hour, 2-hitter over Kent State. Arkansas awaits.
Brian, tonight, right? Bad news (for me) is SC was tough to beat the first time with our ace on the mound, and chances of beating them twice are minimal.
Good news is, we won’t have to face Roth.
June 21st, 20122:33 pm
Yes, nolie. LHB are hitting him .220/.266/.339 – not sure what it was before the Heyward homer.
not looking all that doable for the Noles
June 21st, 20122:34 pm
I think the game will be 9:00, Hillbilly. Freshman Montgomery getting thrown into the fire. But Tanner has a lot of confidence in him. The bullpen is fully rested for both teams.
June 21st, 20122:35 pm
Yup. And she is wearing Braves gear. I will have to protect her from those houligans in Boston.
Never been to Fenway either. Which is insane given that my brother has lived there for something like 15 years and I’m a huge baseball fan.
Always just end up going to Shea/Citi.
June 21st, 20122:37 pm
I think you’ll enjoy it. get us a win
June 21st, 20122:39 pm
Thanks, nolie. I’m pumped to see Delgado as well. Was hoping for him or Polished………….sorta.
June 21st, 20122:41 pm
Hey nolie: what’d you think about John Holland getting arrested? does it really matter to you for the CWS?
June 21st, 20122:43 pm
Series preview: Braves at Red Sox
June 21st, 20122:47 pm
The bullpen is fully rested for both teams.
Yeah, the Hogs will use them tonight with Randall Fant on the mound. It wouldn’t hurt my feelings if Van Horn changes his plans and throws Baxendale.
June 21st, 20122:53 pm
Just to show you how homerism can affect observation…
Teixeira says the ball Heyward hit off Tex’s heel might be the hardest ball ever hit at him. A Yankees’ fan watching this play said:
“Heyward followed and hit a sharp grounder at Mark Teixeira, but the ball bounded off Tex’s foot towards the middle of the diamond and the Braves took the lead. We’ve seen Tex make that play too many times to count, so it was disappointing, despite the difficulty, to see that play result in anything but an out. “
June 21st, 20122:56 pm
Bethancourt named to play in the Futures Game, if you missed Tweet earlier (I was on the train)
June 21st, 20122:57 pm
I’m guessing that some editor changed the original wording from “…sharp grounder that left smoke trails from the burning stitches…” to just “…sharp grounder…”
June 21st, 20123:00 pm
Sure don’t get views like this on a plane. America needs more trains. This was in Connecticut today, from my seat on Amtrak en route to Boston.
June 21st, 20123:06 pm
Sure don’t get views like this on a plane. America needs more trains.
He was a runaway locamotive, out of his one-track mind…
Yeah, and Chipper misplayed an Upton liner off his leg…
Ric Flair to Right
June 21st, 20123:08 pm
Amazing Stats….Brian McCann
Last 96 games .193 AVG, with a red hot .668 OPS!!!!!
June 21st, 20123:13 pm
McCann last 96 games….71 hits and 60k’s..wow!!!!
June 21st, 20123:15 pm
Wow. David, sorry you chose Constanza as the subject of your first post. If I’d been here, I’d have warned you that you were about to get ambushed. You’re right, there are a lot of haters here when it comes to him. I hope that won’t keep you from posting in the future. Just don’t mention that you’d like to see Constanza with the Braves and you should be safe. Most of the animosity stems from Fredi playing him instead of Heyward last season. The ones responding to you so harshly are the charter members of the Heyward Man Love Club.
June 21st, 20123:16 pm
The amazing thing about McCann is how far he has fallen and how quick..prior to rib injury he ws without question the best offensive backstop in baseball…did he really pickup that many bad habits nursing his ribs?
June 21st, 20123:24 pm
Hello every one! I know I said I might not come on, but this is pretty good talk. I think you can’t hold on to prospects for ever. I like Delgado more than Teharan, and Minor is showing signs of getting it back together. Braves want to make it to the post season they will have to trade somke one. Braves will have to trade some one to get to the Post – Season.
June 21st, 20123:26 pm
Efrim: Fenway is the only other ML park I have been to besides the ATL and it was about 20 years ago. It was an amazing experience: the first thing that hits you is you don’t even realize where the stadium is as you walk up to it…it looks like you are entering a warehouse in downtown Boston and then you walk through the concession stands and the first time you see the field is an unforgettable experience.
Just sitting in your seat looking at the Green Monster is amazing. I was in heaven the whole game, the sounds and smell are pure baseball. The steamed hotdogs they bring around are great, too. That was a day I will never forget, and I hope you enjoy it to the full effect.
If they can’t get a really good SP then I’d rather them just forget it and go for a big bat and a bench guy.
Wow. David, sorry you chose Constanza as the subject of your first post. If I’d been here, I’d have warned you that you were about to get ambushed.
10 to 1 he was trolling just to get some action going on the blog.
June 21st, 20123:27 pm
Brava: I’m not part of the Heyward Man Love Club… I had no problem with Constanza starting over Heyward last year. I just wished it was more temporary and that we would’ve gotten Pence or some RF to play over him… I like Constanza as a player, but he’s not starting material for the Braves.
Braves need starters to go 7 innings, or 8 innings. Can’t keep putting your bull – pen in the 5th inning all the time. You will put ware, and tear on the arms, and have a another collapse at the end.
June 21st, 20123:28 pm
Chatt – What’s more important for the Braves? A Bat, or pitcher?
June 21st, 20123:29 pm
Ward, post twice. What? Post season is where it is. I like Wren more than most though. See we need a hitter and a pitcher. Prospects are just what they are – prospects. See I know …
Tigers release Eric Patterson.
Hometown Patterson boys from Marietta never did much in the bigs once there.
June 21st, 20123:30 pm
Ward, right now I’d say a starter is more important. In a month a hitter might very well be more pressing.
June 21st, 20123:32 pm
When Delgado throws this weekend against the Bo Sox, chance of seeing J Hey, Freeman, Simmons along with Randall all of them 22 years old.
June 21st, 20123:33 pm
I’m not a Constanza hater – I just really don’t care one way or another.
June 21st, 20123:34 pm
Did you know…the last NL team to average 7 innings per start from their starting pitchers was the 1977 Dodgers. That rotation was Don Sutton, Tommy John, Rick Rhoden, Burt Hooten, and Doug Rau.
And they still had Charlie Hough appearing in 70 games and pitching 127 innings out of the pen. Only two other pitchers pitched in more than 25 games, though.
June 21st, 20123:35 pm
Todd Cunningham is playing pretty well, and if Braves sign Bourn? You could put Todd Cunningham in Center, and Bourn in right for next year, but that doesn’t help for this year, and no on trading Cunningham.
June 21st, 20123:36 pm
Braves will have to trade some one to get to the Post season
Yes… but if they’re gonna trade Teheran it better be for something better than Garza. If that’s not possible then I’d rather stick with the options we have. I know that would cause people to bash Wren even more than they do now, but it would probably be the right call.
Confident defensive prodigy Simmons showing he can hit, too
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